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- [ANNOUNCER] LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW
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- LIVE. PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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- AND NOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
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- AND JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW! JAY SEKULOW: WELCOME EVERYBODY TO A
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- SPECIAL BROADCAST AND ESPECIALLY THIS HOLIDAY SEASON. I HAD THE
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- GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH MY FRIENDS MATT AND LAURIE
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- CROUCH ON THE SET AT TBN JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, REALLY TO DISCUSS
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- THE BOOK THAT WE'VE WRITTEN CALLED "UNHOLY ALLIANCE" DEALING
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- WITH IRAN, RUSSIA, JIHADISM. AND AS WE CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY
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- SEASON, BUT ALSO AS WE LOOK AT THE NATURE OF WHAT WE'RE FACING
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- AS A COUNTRY, WE WANT YOU TO BE EDUCATED AND INFORMED. SO WE HAD
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- A GREAT DISCUSSION AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC
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- OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO HEAR SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT TOOK
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- PLACE BETWEEN ME, MATT, & LAURIE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE OF THE
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- UNHOLY ALLIANCE. AND THEN TBN HAD A VERY SPECIAL OFFER ON HOW
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- YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THE BOOK FOR ANY DONATION OF ANY AMOUNT
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- THROUGH TBN. THERE'S AN 800 NUMBER UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT
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- NOW AND YOU CAN USE THAT NUMBER TO GET THE BOOK "UNHOLY
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- ALLIANCE" AND IT'S A SIGNED COPY OF THE BOOK. SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU
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- TO DO THAT. HERE'S THAT INTERVIEW: MATT CROUCH: JAY
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- SEKULOW IS WITH US FOR THIS ENTIRE 90 MINUTES. THIS IS A
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- LIVE PROGRAM. WE WELCOME YOU TO PRAISE. I'M MATTHEW CROUCH. MY
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- WIFE, LAURIE J. LAURIE CROUCH: GOOD EVENING. -WE'RE TALKING
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- ABOUT YOUR LATEST BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE". WHY IS THIS BOOK, THE
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- CONTENT OF THIS BOOK, WHY IS IT RELEVANT FOR NOW, THIS MINUTE?
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- WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE THIS BOOK? JAY SEKULOW: WELL, LOOK,
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- WE'RE IN A POSITION IN OUR HISTORY, AND IN THE UNITED
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- STATES RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY, WHERE WE'RE IN A TRANSITION OF
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- GOVERNMENT. AND THAT'S WHEN OUR ENEMY VIEWS US AS THE MOST
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- VULNERABLE. -WOW. -REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENT, GREEN
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- PARTY, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH A TRANSITION
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- OF GOVERNMENT, WE DO IT PEACEFULLY IN THE UNITED STATES,
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- UNLIKE OTHER COUNTRIES, BUT WE'RE DEEMED TO BE VULNERABLE.
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- BY WHO? WELL, BY GROUPS THAT ARE OPERATING WITH THE THEOLOGICAL
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- IDEOLOGY AND THAT IS THIS VERSION OF ISLAM THAT, THEY'RE
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- JIHADISTS. I DON'T EVEN LIKE CALLING IT RADICAL ISLAM
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- ANYMORE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE FAIR WORD. THEY'RE
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- JIHADISTS. THEY ARE BENT ON THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WEST. THEY
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- WANT TO DISRUPT OUR WAY OF LIFE, THE FREEDOMS THAT WE ENJOY FROM
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- FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO FREEDOM OF RELIGION TO FREE EXERCISE. I
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- MEAN, THIS IS A MENTALITY, MATT & LAURIE, THAT WE HAVE TO
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- UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT'S AN INTERGENERATIONAL CONFLICT. SO I
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- WROTE "UNHOLY ALLIANCE" BECAUSE THE PLAYERS ARE LINING UP IN A
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- VERY DIFFERENT WAY THAN MOST OF US THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
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- YOU'VE GOT RUSSIA BECOMING A MAJOR FORCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST
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- AGAIN. SINCE THE COLLAPSE OF THE SOVIET UNION, THEY'VE BEEN
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- VACANT FROM THE MIDDLE EAST. THEY'RE NOW THE MAJOR FORCE.
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- THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE IRANIANS. THE IRANIANS ARE BENT
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- ON 1 THING, GET EXPORTING THEIR VERSION OF SHARIA. SO THEY WILL
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- FIGHT WITH THE SUNNI, THE SHIA WILL FIGHT WITH THE SUNNI, BUT
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- THEY WILL ALSO JOIN FORCES WITH THE SUNNI IF IT'S GOING TO END A
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- COMMON ENEMY. WHO'S THE COMMON ENEMY? THE UNITED STATES AND
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- ISRAEL. ISRAEL IS THE LITTLE ENEMY. THEY'RE THE ONES IN THE
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- WAY. AND THEN THE UNITED STATES IS THE BIG TARGET BECAUSE WE'RE
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- THE REAL CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. WE'RE THE ONES THAT
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- BELIEVE IN LIBERTY AND FREEDOM AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO
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- END. SO IT'S EXPORTING THE REVOLUTION. -OKAY, JAY SEKULOW,
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- I'M HOLDING UP YOUR LATEST BOOK. YOU ARE A #1 NEW YORK TIME BEST
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- SELLING AUTHOR. THAT WAS FOR YOUR BOOK "THE RISE OF ISIS".
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- THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE" BY JAY
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- SEKULOW. THAT 800 # IS ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU. FOR THOSE
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- WATCHING THIS WILL END ALL DOUBT WHETHER THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM,
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- WE'VE JUST BEEN THROUGH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. TODAY IS
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- NOVEMBER 17TH, 2016 AND THIS SUBJECT MATTER IS MORE IMPORTANT
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- THIS MINUTE THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN PRIOR TO. -SURE. -SO
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- IN AMERICA, LIKE YOU'VE JUST POINTED OUT, WE HAVE A PEACEFUL
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- TRANSITION OF POWER. WE CELEBRATE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT
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- WE ALL BELIEVE IN REGARDLESS OF POLITICS. -RIGHT. -YOU HAD A
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- REALLY GOOD STATEMENT ABOUT POLITICS BACK IN THE GREEN ROOM,
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- WHICH WAS? -LOOK, WE'VE HAD THIS BIG TRANSITION OF
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- GOVERNMENT NOW, WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS. WE'RE IN THE NEXT 60
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- DAYS, BASICALLY, TILL THE PRESIDENT ELECT BECOMES THE
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- PRESIDENT. AND POLITICS IS IMPORTANT, BUT ABRAHAM KUYPER, A
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- FAMOUS THEOLOGIAN, DUTCH THEOLOGIAN, FAMOUSLY SAID
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- POLITICS ARE IMPORTANT, WE SHOULD ENGAGE IN POLITICS, BUT
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- REMEMBER THIS, POLITICS NEVER RAISED ANYONE FROM THE DEAD. AND
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- I THINK WE HAVE TO OPERATE WITH THAT ASSUMPTION, BECAUSE IT'S
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- NOT JUST AN ASSUMPTION, IT'S A FACT. SO ENGAGING IN POLITICS IS
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- IMPORTANT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS NOT THE MESSAGE
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- THAT PREVAILS. -RIGHT. -AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING
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- EVERY DAY AROUND THE WORLD, IS OFFERING HOPE. AND IN THIS BOOK,
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- EVEN WITH A TOPIC AS HARD AS THIS, IN THE SENSE THAT, THIS
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- ISN'T A PRETTY PICTURE WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE IRANIANS AND THE
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- RUSSIANS AND ASSYRIANS IN CAHOOTS, AND YOU LOOK AT THAT,
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- BUT I END IT WITH OFFERING HOPE. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE HOPE HERE.
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- AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICT WE'RE IN, BECAUSE, AS I
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- SAID, MATT & LAURIE, THEY THINK INTERGENERATIONAL, IN THE UNITED
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- STATES WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THE ISRAELIS, WE LIKE OUR WARS 6
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- DAYS, 2 WEEKS. -RIGHT. -YOU KNOW, THE UNITED STATES, WE'RE
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- NOT REALLY GREAT ON 15 YEARS WARS. BUT THEY THINK
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- INTERGENERATIONALLY. IT'S THE 1.000 YEAR WAR, IT'S THE 100
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- YEAR WAR. THAT'S HOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT. I'M GOING TO HAVE
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- A LOT MORE WITH OUR INTERVIEW WITH MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH ON
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- THE SET OF TBN. THE BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE"; THERE'S A NUMBER ON
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- THE SCREEN FROM TBN, YOU CAN GET IT. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT.
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- YOU'LL BE HELPING TBN OUT AND YOU'LL BE HELPING US OUT AT THE
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- SAME TIME. BACK WITH MORE IN A MOMENT.
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- JAY SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT
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- MORE DISCUSSION AHEAD ON THIS. LOOK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
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- BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE". I HAD A GREAT INTERVIEW TIME WITH MATT &
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- LAURIE CROUCH AT TBN ON THE SET OF THE PRAISE PROGRAM. I WANT TO
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- GO RIGHT TO THAT AS WE DISCUSS THE BOOK. MATT CROUCH: YOU ARE
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- KNOWN AS A FREE SPEECH LAWYER. JAY SEKULOW: RIGHT. -THIS
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- STUDIO THAT WE'RE PRODUCING THIS PROGRAM IN, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN
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- HERE IN THE ARLY 80'S. -YES. -WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR
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- GENERATIONS. -MOST OF OUR ADULT LIVES. [LAUGHTER] -I DON'T KNOW
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- WHAT I'VE NOT KNOWN YOU. -RIGHT. -AND SO, JAY, MAYBE
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- PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE CURRENT RESUME INCLUDES 12
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- ARGUMENTS AT THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
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- -I WAS HERE THE WEEK AFTER MY FIRST CASE ON THIS SET, A
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- DIFFERENT SET, BUT IN THIS BUILDING IN 1987. -WOW! -ISN'T
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- THAT SOMETHING? -THAT WAS A DOZEN CASES AGO THAT I'VE
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- ARGUED. WE'VE DONE 20 BUT I'VE ARGUED 12 OF THEM. YES. SO I
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- MEAN, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER A LONG
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- TIME. -OKAY, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS BOOK, THIS SUBJECT,
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- CHAPTER 10 JUMPED OUT TO ME AND I WANT TO GET INTO CHAPTER 10 IN
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- REGARDS TO THIS. SO FOR THOSE WATCHING, LET ME JUST SET
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- SOMETHING UP, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHEN, MAYBE JAY WILL SET A
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- DATE HERE LATER ON IN THE BROADCAST WHEN JESUS IS COMING
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- BACK, BUT ALL OF THIS GEO-POLITIC STUFF IS REAL. SO
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- FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING TONIGHT, AND AGAIN TONIGHT'S
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- LIVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CALL IN. WE'RE RIGHT
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- HERE IN THE STUDIO. THE OPERATORS OR SOME OF THE
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- OPERATORS ARE RIGHT HERE IN THE STUDIO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
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- BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE "UNHOLY ALLIANCE" THIS CONFLICT
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- THAT IS GOING ON IN SYRIA. THE UNITED STATES HAS BASICALLY
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- WITHDRAWN, -RIGHT. -THERE IS A VACUUM OF POWER AND IT'S BEING
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- FILLED. OKAY? SO BIBLE PROPHECY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW
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- TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THAT SUBJECT, AND THERE ARE MANY,
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- -RIGHT. -HOW DO YOU CONNECT THIS BOOK INTO WHAT THAT IS?
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- -WE'RE LIVING IT. I MEAN, WHAT'S DISCUSSED IN THE BOOK, I
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- MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IRAN, YOU TALK ABOUT RUSSIA. THIS IS
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- NOT FOREIGN TO THE SCRIPTURES. SO WE ARE LIVING OUT AND SEEING
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- AND WITNESSING BIBLICAL FULFILLMENTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
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- THE PROBLEM IS, AND THIS IS THE REASON WE WROTE THE BOOK, AND
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- THE REASON I WANTED TO WRITE THIS PARTICULAR BOOK WAS TO
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- UNDERSTAND THE TIMES AND SEASONS WE LIVE IN. I MEAN, WE'RE
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- SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE TIME AND SEASONS
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- WE LIVE IN. YOU'VE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY. THIS IS
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- NOT, YOU SAID IT RIGHT, MATT, NONE OF THIS HAS HAPPENED IN A
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- VACUUM. THIS DIDN'T POP UP OVERNIGHT. EVEN THE IRANIAN
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- REVOLUTION, THE 1979 IRANIAN REVOLUTION WAS BREWING FOR
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- DECADES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERSSIAN EMPIRE. WE FORGET ABOUT
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- THESE THINGS, THAT IRAN WAS THIS HUGE EMPIRE. NOW T.E. LAWRENCE,
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- LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, REMEMBER, WE'VE SEEN THE MOVIE WITH OMAR
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- SHARFIF. I MEAN, GREAT MOVIE, INTERESTING GUY; UNDERSTOOD IT
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- WAS AN ERA, WHICH NOW WE WOULD SAY HOW COULD THAT EVEN BE; WAS
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- PRO-ARAB, AND PRO-JEWISH. PRO-ISRAEL, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
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- A JEWISH STATE, AND PRO-ARAB. NOW THAT WAS NOT UNUSUAL THEN.
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- IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED NOW. BUT HE CAME IN CONTACT WITH THE
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- PERSSIANS, WITH THE SHIA. AND THAT'S A BRANCH OF ISLAM AND
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- THAT IS THE MORE RADICAL, NOT THAT THE SUNNIS AREN'T RADICAL,
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- IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT HE SAID THEY WERE SURLY AND
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- FANATICAL; WILLING TO KILL THE SUNNI AS WELL AS THE CHRISTIAN.
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- SO THEN YOU'VE HAD THIS GEO-POLITICAL SITUATION. LOOK,
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- ISRAEL'S EXISTENCE AS A JEWISH STATE, FUNDAMENTALLY, RESHAPED
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- OUR GENERATION. I WANT TO SAY THAT FOR EVERYONE. BECAUSE UNTIL
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- THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A JEWISH STATE, AND PEOPLE SAY WELL THE
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- RIGHT OF ISRAEL TO EXIST, YES, BUT AS A JEWISH STATE, SO THAT'S
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- A FULFILLMENT, OF COURSE, OF SCRIPTURE, BUT I THINK IT HAS
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- SHAPED, WITHOUT QUESTION, OUR GENERATION. WHEN I LOOK AT OUR
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- GENERATION, WE WERE SHAPED BY THE MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT.
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- -CORRECT. -UNFORTUNATELY, OUR KIDS GENERATION ARE ALSO BEING
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- SHAPED BY THAT CONFLICT. UNFORTUNATELY, REALITY IS, AT
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- THE TIME OF SCRIPTURE ITSELF IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IT WAS BEING
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- SHAPED BY THE MIDDLE EAST. SO WHAT WE'RE WITNESSING, IN A
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- SENSE TODAY, AND WHAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH TODAY, IS AS
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- OLD AS THE SCRIPTURES ITSELF. AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO,
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- AND THE REASON THAT THIS BECAME A BURDEN TO GET THIS OUT WAS IT
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- IS A COMPLICATED HISTORY THAT I WANT TO MAKE UNDERSTANDABLE SO
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- THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES WE CAN ADDRESS WHAT THE
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- REAL PROBLEM IS. AND LIKE I SAID, THE LAST CHAPTER IS THE
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- CHAPTER OF HOPE. I MEAN, WE HAVE THE MESSAGE OF HOPE AT THE END
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- OF THE DAY BECAUSE THESE BATTLES CAN GO ON FOR A LONG TIME. YOU
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- TALKED ABOUT THE VACUUM. WE'VE EVACUATED THE MIDDLE EAST. I
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- MEAN, AND THE RUSSIANS CAME BACK IN. YOU UNDERSTAND, THE RUSSIANS
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- HAVE 1 AIRCRAFT CARRIER. ONE: THAT'S IT. BUT THEY WANTED A
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- WARM WATER PORT. SO THEY GET IT IN SYRIA. THAT'S THE DEAL FOR
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- PROPING UP ASSAD. THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU GET RID OF ASSAD,
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- WHO'S NEXT? IS THE DEVIL YOU KNOW WORSE THAN THE DEVIL YOU
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- DON'T? I MEAN, THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
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- SO WE KIND OF LAID THIS OUT IN A VERY UNDERSTANDABLE WAY. I MEAN,
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- THIS WAS RESEARCH I DID AT OXFORD BUT I WROTE IT SO THAT
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- ANYBODY THAT IS WATCHING US RIGHT NOW WOULD GET A REAL
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- UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW
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- WE CAN CONTAIN THIS. WE HAVE TO, LOOK, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE
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- KNOW WE WIN. OKAY? WE CLEARLY CARRY THE DAY. BUT WE'RE GOING
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- THROUGH THIS TIME OF TURMOIL IN OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S SERIOUS AND
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- WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW AS IT RELATES TO
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- ISRAEL, AS IT RELATES TO CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION, YOU ALL
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- HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL ON A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE'VE
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- HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WE'VE REPRESENTED IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
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- CHRISTIANS AND OTHERS, THAT HAVE JUST BEEN. I HAVE A SITUATION
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- RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 2. ONE I CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT YET, AS
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- SOON AS I CAN I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW FIRST, BUT IT'S A VERY
- 00:11:47.190 --> 00:11:50.210
- SERIOUS SITUATION. ANOTHER ONE IN SUDAN. THESE ARE JUST
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- EXAMPLES OF LITERALLY 10S OF 1.000S. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
- 00:11:54.230 --> 00:11:58.200
- PEOPLE BEING DISPLACED AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLE
- 00:11:58.210 --> 00:12:02.010
- IS, NOT ONLY BIBLICALLY, BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS MOMENT TODAY, AS
- 00:12:02.020 --> 00:12:06.170
- THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WE ARE THAT BEACON OF HOPE. AND WE
- 00:12:06.180 --> 00:12:10.010
- ARE THE LAND OF THE FREE, WE'VE GOT TO ACT LIKE THE HOME OF THE
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- BRAVE. -GOT IT. -AND I THINK OUR MILITARY DOES A GREAT JOB IF
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- YOU LET THEM DO THEIR JOB. -YES. -WE ARE TALKING WITH JAY
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- SEKULOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
- 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:23.040
- JUSTICE IN ADDITION TO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT HE DOES. HIS
- 00:12:23.050 --> 00:12:25.250
- BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE" IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. THE 800
- 00:12:25.260 --> 00:12:30.260
- NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN. AND WE HAVE COORDINATED BASICALLY WITH,
- 00:12:30.270 --> 00:12:36.090
- -SIMON AND SCHUSTER. -SIMON AND SCHUSTER AND YOUR SCHEDULE,
- 00:12:36.100 --> 00:12:39.080
- OUR SCHEDULE. TODAY IS NOVEMBER 17TH. WE ARE LIVE TONIGHT AND IF
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- YOU'RE WATCHING WHILE WE'RE LIVE, GIVE US A CALL. AND IF YOU
- 00:12:43.220 --> 00:12:48.110
- HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JAY. -YOU KNOW, MATT, ONE THING I
- 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.030
- MENTIONED TO YOU AND LAURIE BEFORE, WE'VE GOT THE CAPABILITY
- 00:12:50.040 --> 00:12:52.140
- OF SIGNING THESE BOOKS AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO, I WOULD
- 00:12:52.150 --> 00:12:56.110
- LIKE TO DO THAT. SO WE'LL GET THAT TO ANYBODY THAT GETS THE
- 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:59.010
- BOOK. WHEN I'M HOPEFUL, AND WHERE I AM HOPEFUL IS, I KNOW WE
- 00:12:59.020 --> 00:13:05.010
- HAVE THAT MESSAGE OF HOPE, WHAT I WANT TO SEE HAPPEN IS WE, AS A
- 00:13:05.020 --> 00:13:08.240
- BODY OF BELIEVERS, UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE. NOT ONLY
- 00:13:08.250 --> 00:13:12.210
- AS IT RELATES TO CURRENT EVENTS, BUT WHERE ALL THIS HAS COME
- 00:13:12.220 --> 00:13:17.160
- FROM. AND AS I SAID, IT IS AS OLD AS THE SCRIPTURES. THE NEXT
- 00:13:17.170 --> 00:13:20.010
- BOOK I'M DOING IS ON ISRAEL AND I'M GOING THROUGH THE LEGAL,
- 00:13:20.020 --> 00:13:22.290
- THEOLOGICAL, ARCHEOLOGICAL SUPPORT FOR THE EXISTENCE OF
- 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:26.200
- ISRAEL AS A JEWISH STATE, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO DEFEND
- 00:13:26.210 --> 00:13:28.150
- THAT. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? OUR PARENTS GENERATION WOULD
- 00:13:28.160 --> 00:13:31.130
- NEVER HAVE TO BE DEFENDING THIS LIKE WE'RE NOW HAVING TO DO.
- 00:13:31.140 --> 00:13:34.090
- -RIGHT. -I'M GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE WITH OUR INTERVIEW WITH
- 00:13:34.100 --> 00:13:36.130
- MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH ON THE SET OF TBN. THE BOOK "UNHOLY
- 00:13:36.140 --> 00:13:39.190
- ALLIANCE". THERE'S A NUMBER ON THE SCREEN FROM TBN. YOU CAN GET
- 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:42.270
- IT. WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IT. YOU'LL BE HELPING TBN OUT AND
- 00:13:42.280 --> 00:13:45.220
- YOU'LL HELPING US OUT AT THE SAME TIME. BACK WITH MORE IN A
- 00:13:45.230 --> 00:13:47.130
- MOMENT.
- 00:13:47.140 --> 00:13:52.100
- JAY SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT MORE DISCUSSION AHEAD ON THIS.
- 00:13:52.110 --> 00:13:53.180
- LOOK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE". I HAD A
- 00:13:53.190 --> 00:13:56.010
- GREAT INTERVIEW TIME WITH MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH AT TBN ON THE
- 00:13:56.020 --> 00:13:58.220
- SET OF THE PRAISE PROGRAM. I WANT TO GO RIGHT TO THAT AS WE
- 00:13:58.230 --> 00:14:02.170
- DISCUSS THE BOOK. MATT CROUCH: FOR THOSE THAT ARE JUST TUNING
- 00:14:02.180 --> 00:14:05.060
- IN, WE ARE HERE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL
- 00:14:05.070 --> 00:14:08.050
- DAY. OUR GUEST, JAY SEKULOW; NOVEMBER DAY IN SOUTHERN
- 00:14:08.060 --> 00:14:12.090
- CALIFORNIA, IT WAS LIKE 80 DEGREES TODAY. -NICE. -MOST OF
- 00:14:12.100 --> 00:14:17.170
- THE PEOPLE, THERE COULD BE SOME WATCHING RIGHT NOW THAT ARE
- 00:14:17.180 --> 00:14:20.140
- GOING, WAIT A SECOND, ISN'T THAT THAT GUY FROM FOX NEWS? YEAH,
- 00:14:20.150 --> 00:14:24.080
- THAT'S HIM. -THERE HE IS. -THERE'S THAT GUY. SO, JAY,
- 00:14:24.090 --> 00:14:29.240
- SOME PEOPLE ALSO ARE GOING, BOY, HIS VOICE SOUNDS FAMILIAR
- 00:14:29.250 --> 00:14:34.120
- BECAUSE THEY LISTEN TO YOU ON THE RADIO. -RIGHT. -AND SO
- 00:14:34.130 --> 00:14:37.170
- YOU'RE HERE WITH US TONIGHT, AND LET ME SET, LET ME BACK IT UP
- 00:14:37.180 --> 00:14:41.250
- JUST A TOUCH. -ABSOLUTELY. LET'S DO IT. -YOU ARE KNOWN FOR
- 00:14:41.260 --> 00:14:48.080
- CIVIL LIBERTIES. -RIGHT. -YOU ARE KNOWN IN WASHINGTON. SO HOW
- 00:14:48.090 --> 00:14:52.010
- DID A GOOD JEWISH BOY FROM, -BORN IN BROOKLYN, ACTUALLY.
- 00:14:52.020 --> 00:14:57.250
- -YEAH, FROM THOSE KINDS OF SENSIBILITIES START MOVING IN TO
- 00:14:57.260 --> 00:15:02.160
- THIS KIND OF SUBJECT MATTER. YOU'RE REALLY TALKING FOREIGN
- 00:15:02.170 --> 00:15:05.100
- POLICY ISSUES. -YEAH, WELL, -OKAY, WHERE DID THIS COME
- 00:15:05.110 --> 00:15:08.140
- FROM? -IT'S VERY PERSONAL. SO A STORY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
- 00:15:08.150 --> 00:15:11.040
- PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IS THAT I'M A GRANDSON OF A RUSSIAN
- 00:15:11.050 --> 00:15:13.240
- IMMIGRANT. MY GRANDFATHER CAME TO THE UNITED STATES IN 1914
- 00:15:13.250 --> 00:15:17.090
- THROUGH ELLIS ISLAND. HIS NAME WAS SCHMULIK, SAMUEL; THAT WAS
- 00:15:17.100 --> 00:15:21.060
- THE AMERICAN VERSION. SOKOLOF WAS HOW THE NAME WAS PRONOUNCED.
- 00:15:21.070 --> 00:15:24.130
- AND HE WAS A FRUIT PEDDLER IN BROOKLYN, NY. I MEAN, HE SOLD
- 00:15:24.140 --> 00:15:28.000
- FRUIT FROM A LITTLE STAND. -WOW. -AND HIS GRANSON, ME,
- 00:15:28.010 --> 00:15:33.120
- I'VE GOTTEN TO ARGUE CASES AT THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED
- 00:15:33.130 --> 00:15:35.030
- STATES AND AT THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT IN THE HAGUE.
- 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:36.160
- -WOW. -SO, YOU KNOW, I TAKE THIS VERY PERSONALLY. MY
- 00:15:36.170 --> 00:15:41.130
- GRANDFATHER LEFT RUSSIA WITH HIS FAMILY, HE WAS 14, BECAUSE OF
- 00:15:41.140 --> 00:15:45.080
- PERSECUTION AGAINST JEWS IN RUSSIA. MY VERY FIRST CASE,
- 00:15:45.090 --> 00:15:48.250
- THOUGH, AT THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, WAS BOARD OF
- 00:15:48.260 --> 00:15:50.100
- AIRPORT COMMISSIONERS VERSUS JEWS FOR JESUS. I'M PRETTY SURE
- 00:15:50.110 --> 00:15:53.010
- MY GRANDFATHER WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE CASE I'D
- 00:15:53.020 --> 00:15:54.290
- BE ARGUING. AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY, BUT SO I LOOK AT
- 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:58.280
- THIS VERY PERSONALLY. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
- 00:15:58.290 --> 00:16:01.120
- WITH THIS REGION OF THE WORLD. -YEAH. -SO THERE'S A FAMILY
- 00:16:01.130 --> 00:16:03.210
- CONNECT HERE AND THEN TAKING IT TO KIND OF THE LOGICAL NEXT
- 00:16:03.220 --> 00:16:07.270
- STEP, YOU'RE RIGHT, I WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER, RELIGIOUS
- 00:16:07.280 --> 00:16:10.280
- LIBERTY, AND FREE SPEECH. I WAS IN A MEETING BACK IN 2000. IT
- 00:16:10.290 --> 00:16:17.130
- WAS RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTIONS. AND IN 2001 THERE WAS THIS WHOLE
- 00:16:17.140 --> 00:16:21.020
- CONCERN ABOUT TRAVEL WARNINGS TO ISRAEL. YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS.
- 00:16:21.030 --> 00:16:23.120
- AND THE TRAVEL WARNINGS TO GO TO ISRAEL WERE HIGHER THAN GOING TO
- 00:16:23.130 --> 00:16:26.110
- SYRIA. I MEAN, IT WAS RIDICULOUS. AND I WORKED ON
- 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.250
- GETTING THAT CHANGED. AND WHAT I SAW BY WORKING IN THE POLITICAL
- 00:16:29.260 --> 00:16:33.150
- SYSTEM WITHIN WASHINGTON D.C. WAS IF YOU BUILD RELATIONSHIPS
- 00:16:33.160 --> 00:16:37.090
- AND TRUST, AND HAVE ADVOCACY BEHIND THAT THAT ACTUALLY MAKES
- 00:16:37.100 --> 00:16:41.090
- SENSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF MY, I WOULD ADVERSARIES IN COURT,
- 00:16:41.100 --> 00:16:46.130
- OFTENTIMES, SAID THE REASON I WAS SO DANGEROUS WAS BECAUSE I
- 00:16:46.140 --> 00:16:48.180
- SOUND SO REASONABLE. I THINK WE HAVE A REASON AND WE'RE
- 00:16:48.190 --> 00:16:52.120
- REASONABLE. BUT I WAS ABLE TO SEE BACK, ALMOST 15 YEARS AGO,
- 00:16:52.130 --> 00:16:56.120
- THAT WE COULD ENGAGE THIS. ONE OF THE GREATEST HONORS I'VE HAD
- 00:16:56.130 --> 00:17:00.130
- IN MY LIFE, BESIDES BEING A FATHER AND A GRANDFATHER, WHICH
- 00:17:00.140 --> 00:17:04.110
- IS THE GREATEST THING, WAS I GOT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION BEFORE
- 00:17:04.120 --> 00:17:11.030
- THE UNITED NATIONS AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN NEW YORK
- 00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:14.100
- JUST IN JUNE. AND IT WAS IN DEFENSE OF ISRAEL AND THIS WHOLE
- 00:17:14.110 --> 00:17:17.080
- ATTEMPT TO DELEGITIMIZE THE JEWISH STATE. I WAS THINKING TO
- 00:17:17.090 --> 00:17:20.070
- MYSELF, I GET ON THAT PODIUM, IT'S GIGANTIC, I MEAN, IT'S, YOU
- 00:17:20.080 --> 00:17:23.230
- KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, I
- 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:25.070
- MEAN, THE PODIUM IS NOT MUCH WIDER THAN THIS TABLE. YOU GO TO
- 00:17:25.080 --> 00:17:27.120
- THIS, AND YOU'VE SEEN IT, YOU GO TO THIS, WELL THERE IT IS, YOU
- 00:17:27.130 --> 00:17:30.140
- FEEL LIKE AN ANT. [LAUGHTER] AND THEN YOU REALIZE WHO ELSE HAS
- 00:17:30.150 --> 00:17:35.000
- TOUCHED THAT WOOD AND THAT TABLE. I MEAN, FROM GREAT WORLD
- 00:17:35.010 --> 00:17:38.100
- LEADERS TO DICTATORS. AND THERE I WAS THE GRANDSON OF SCHUMLIK,
- 00:17:38.110 --> 00:17:41.270
- AT THE U.N. AND MATT AND LAURIE, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS IN
- 00:17:41.280 --> 00:17:49.150
- YOUR LIFE WHERE YOU REALIZE THAT GOD HAD ORCHESTRATED IT ALL.
- 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:53.100
- THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD HAVE DONE THIS YOURSELF. -RIGHT.
- 00:17:53.110 --> 00:17:55.020
- -IT COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED; THAT THIS WAS GOD JUST EVERY
- 00:17:55.030 --> 00:17:57.060
- STEP OF THE WAY. SO HOW DO YOU GO FROM THE SUPREME COURT CASE,
- 00:17:57.070 --> 00:18:00.260
- BOARD OF AIRPORT COMMISSIONERS VS JEWS FOR JESUS TO STANDING UP
- 00:18:00.270 --> 00:18:03.120
- AT THE UNITED NATIONS GIVING A DEFENSE OF ISRAEL FOR THE U.N.?
- 00:18:03.130 --> 00:18:08.290
- SO ALL OF THAT KIND OF CAME TOGETHER AND I REALIZED, AND
- 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:12.270
- INSTITUTIONALLY, LOOK, I MEAN, YOU RUN A GLOBAL NETWORK. I
- 00:18:12.280 --> 00:18:16.120
- MEAN, HUGE. WE HAVE A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION. YOU HAVE TO BE,
- 00:18:16.130 --> 00:18:19.180
- YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OLD STORY PRAY WITH YOUR EYES OPEN. WITHIN
- 00:18:19.190 --> 00:18:23.110
- THE JEWISH TRADITION, THERE WAS THIS TRADITION PRAY WITH YOUR
- 00:18:23.120 --> 00:18:25.160
- EYES OPEN. PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THAT'S IRREVERENT. IT WASN'T.
- 00:18:25.170 --> 00:18:26.260
- JESUS PRAYED WITH HIS EYES OPEN. HE SAID LOOK TOWARDS HEAVEN, AND
- 00:18:26.270 --> 00:18:29.270
- OPENED HIS YES TOWARDS HEAVEN. PRAY WITH YOUR EYES OPEN BECAUSE
- 00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:33.020
- YOU SEE WHERE GOD'S MOVING IN DIFFERENT AVENUES AND DIFFERENT
- 00:18:33.030 --> 00:18:35.020
- AREAS. AND WHAT WE SAW WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING A
- 00:18:35.030 --> 00:18:39.180
- LOT ABOUT THESE ISSUES BUT IT WAS HOW DO YOU CONVERT THE
- 00:18:39.190 --> 00:18:42.120
- TALKING TO DOING? -YEP. -HOW DO YOU IMPLEMENT, EDUCATE,
- 00:18:42.130 --> 00:18:46.090
- LITIGATE IF YOU NEED TO? I'VE DONE REPRESENTATION NOW AT THE
- 00:18:46.100 --> 00:18:50.070
- INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT IN THE HAGUE, WHICH GAVE ME A WHOLE
- 00:18:50.080 --> 00:18:52.010
- NEW APPRECIATION FOR OUR AMERICAN JUSTICE SYSTEM, LET ME
- 00:18:52.020 --> 00:18:54.020
- JUST TELL YOU THAT. AND IT ENDED SUCCESSFULLY, SO I DON'T WANT TO
- 00:18:54.030 --> 00:18:56.050
- BELITTLE THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT IN THE HAGUE, BUT
- 00:18:56.060 --> 00:18:59.040
- THIS IS NOT JUSTICE LIKE YOU AND I WOULD THINK OF, WE WOULD ALL
- 00:18:59.050 --> 00:19:02.020
- THINK OF JUSTICE. AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE TRIBUNALS AND WHAT
- 00:19:02.030 --> 00:19:05.240
- YOU'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH AND I THINK, I GIVE YOUR FAMILY A LOT
- 00:19:05.250 --> 00:19:09.280
- OF CREDIT FOR THIS. I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOX NEWS THING.
- 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:12.170
- DO YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK HONED MY SKILLS AT THE SUPREME COURT
- 00:19:12.180 --> 00:19:15.210
- MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE? THIS CHAIR, WELL, IT WASN'T THIS
- 00:19:15.220 --> 00:19:19.170
- CHAIR, BUT A CHAIR ON THIS SET. -YEAH. -AND THOSE INTERVIEWS
- 00:19:19.180 --> 00:19:21.200
- ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
- 00:19:21.210 --> 00:19:24.000
- WITH THAT, THEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE NINE OF THEM IT'S NOT
- 00:19:24.010 --> 00:19:26.040
- SO COMPLICATED VERSUS, YOU KNOW, LIVE T.V. AND I THINK ALL OF
- 00:19:26.050 --> 00:19:29.260
- THIS WAS TRAINING. LOOK, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE ME AT
- 00:19:29.270 --> 00:19:33.140
- THE U.N. I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED ME THAT 8 MONTHS AGO
- 00:19:33.150 --> 00:19:36.270
- I WOULD HAVE SAID NO. BUT THERE IT WAS. SO GOD OPENS DOORS, GO
- 00:19:36.280 --> 00:19:41.000
- THROUGH THEM. AND ALSO LOOK AT WHERE THE NEEDS ARE. AND WE'RE
- 00:19:41.010 --> 00:19:45.140
- SEEING, RIGHT NOW, POCKETS OF THE WORLD WHERE THE NEED IS
- 00:19:45.150 --> 00:19:49.000
- GREAT. I MEAN, THE CRISIS IN THE MIDDLE EAST IS A CRISIS IN THE
- 00:19:49.010 --> 00:19:51.200
- MIDDLE EAST. I MEAN, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT CRISIS FOR RELIGIOUS
- 00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:55.270
- MINORITIES, ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS, BUT YAZIDIS AND
- 00:19:55.280 --> 00:19:58.180
- OTHERS, IT IS, WE CAN'T EVEN RELATE TO IT; AND THEN
- 00:19:58.190 --> 00:20:02.130
- INDIVIDUAL AMERICAN CITIZENS. AND I TALK ABOUT SOME OF THIS IN
- 00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:05.000
- THE BOOK. WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH, I HAVE AN OFFICE IN
- 00:20:05.010 --> 00:20:08.180
- MOSCOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE AN OFFICE IN MOSCOW. SO YOU'VE GOT
- 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:12.000
- TO DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHY
- 00:20:12.010 --> 00:20:14.090
- ARE THE RUSSIANS DEALING WITH THE IRANIANS AND ALSO HAVE A
- 00:20:14.100 --> 00:20:18.000
- PRETTY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ISRAELIS? AND THIS HAS
- 00:20:18.010 --> 00:20:21.010
- CHANGED THE ENTIRE GEO-POLITICAL FRAMEWORK OF HOW WE VIEW THE
- 00:20:21.020 --> 00:20:25.070
- WORLD. SO THAT LENS THAT WE LOOKED THROUGH FOR MOST OF OUR
- 00:20:25.080 --> 00:20:28.070
- ADULT LIFE ENDS UP BEING COMPLETELY INCORRECT. -WOW.
- 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:31.160
- -WE WERE OPERATING THROUGH THE WRONG LENS. SCRIPTURE TELLS US
- 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:34.190
- THE LENS, BUT THE POLITICIANS, AND THAT'S WHERE POLITICS IS
- 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.180
- IMPORTANT BUT IT DOESN'T RAISE PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD. AND I
- 00:20:37.190 --> 00:20:40.010
- THINK YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TIE THAT TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THE
- 00:20:40.020 --> 00:20:43.060
- NATURE OF THE CONFLICT WE'RE IN AND THAT THERE IS, TO SAY THIS
- 00:20:43.070 --> 00:20:46.110
- IS NOT A RELIGIOUS CONFLICT, WHO ARE WE KIDDING? THAT'S
- 00:20:46.120 --> 00:20:48.250
- POLITICALLY CORRECT, BUT LEGALLY INCORRECT, AS A MATTER OF
- 00:20:48.260 --> 00:20:52.120
- INTERNATIONAL LAW, BIBLICAL INCORRECT, AND FACTUALLY
- 00:20:52.130 --> 00:20:55.240
- INCORRECT. THIS IS, IN A SENSE, A REAL RELIGIOUS CONFLICT. AND
- 00:20:55.250 --> 00:20:59.090
- THERE'S A FIGHT WITHIN ISLAM ITSELF AND THEN THE RADICAL,
- 00:20:59.100 --> 00:21:03.040
- WELL IT'S ONLY 10%. 10% OF 1.7 BILLION PEOPLE? DO THE MATH.
- 00:21:03.050 --> 00:21:08.270
- THAT'S A LOT OF FOLK. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN "UNHOLY
- 00:21:08.280 --> 00:21:12.290
- ALLIANCE" IS PUT ALL THESE PIECES TOGETHER IN A COHERENT
- 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:16.010
- UNDERSTANDING SO AT THE END OF IT, WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO,
- 00:21:16.020 --> 00:21:19.120
- BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONFLICT. I THINK OFTENTIMES WE
- 00:21:19.130 --> 00:21:24.170
- LOOK AT IT AT THE 60.000 FOOT LEVEL AND IGNORE, IT'S THE MACRO
- 00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:29.120
- VS MICRO KIND OF THING. AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS
- 00:21:29.130 --> 00:21:31.130
- WE'VE LAID IT OUT SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THIS
- 00:21:31.140 --> 00:21:33.120
- CONFLICT GOES BACK, LITERALLY, GENERATIONS AND GENERATIONS.
- 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:37.240
- -SO YOUR FAMILY TIE, YOUR PERSONAL CONNECTION, THIS IS A
- 00:21:37.250 --> 00:21:43.210
- VERY SERIOUS SUBJECT MATTER TO YOU. -YES. -WE'RE TALKING
- 00:21:43.220 --> 00:21:46.050
- ABOUT "UNHOLY ALLIANCE". AND YOUR BOOK PRIOR TO THIS WAS A
- 00:21:46.060 --> 00:21:51.240
- NEW YORK TIMES #1 BEST SELLER. -YEP. -"RISE OF ISIS". THIS IS
- 00:21:51.250 --> 00:21:56.120
- YOUR FOLLOW-UP "UNHOLY ALLIANCE". LET ME JUST READ THE
- 00:21:56.130 --> 00:21:59.110
- PIECE RIGHT HERE, THE AGENDA IRAN, RUSSIA, AND JIHADISTS
- 00:21:59.120 --> 00:22:05.030
- SHARE TO CONQUER THE WORLD. -SO LET ME UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT.
- 00:22:05.040 --> 00:22:10.110
- -PLEASE. -SO YOU WOULD THINK RUSSIA HAS HAD PROBLEMS WITH
- 00:22:10.120 --> 00:22:12.070
- JIHADISTS. SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH JIHADIST TERRORISTS. -RIGHT.
- 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:15.000
- -A SCHOOL THAT WAS TAKEN OVER. THEY'VE HAD AIRPLANES -SHOT OUT
- 00:22:15.010 --> 00:22:17.030
- OF THE SKY. -RIGHT. SO THEY'VE DEALT WITH TERRORISTS. CHECHNIAN
- 00:22:17.040 --> 00:22:20.040
- REBELS THAT WERE TERRORISTS. I MEAN, THEY'VE DEALT WITH THIS.
- 00:22:20.050 --> 00:22:22.230
- BUT YOU ASK YOURSELF WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THEY ALIGN
- 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:28.000
- THEMSELVES WITH THE IRANIANS, WHO HAVE ONE DESIRE ONLY. I
- 00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:32.000
- MEAN, SO IN IRAN, THE REVOLUTIONARY GUARD, WHICH IS
- 00:22:32.010 --> 00:22:37.160
- THE AYATOLLAHS TROOPS, SO TO SPEAK, ARE PROBABLY THE MOST
- 00:22:37.170 --> 00:22:41.010
- DEADLY IN THE REGION. NOT COMPARED TO ISRAEL, BUT WITHIN
- 00:22:41.020 --> 00:22:44.120
- THE REGION, IN OTHER WORDS THE IDEA THAT RUSSIA SAID LET'S GET
- 00:22:44.130 --> 00:22:47.070
- THE IRANIANS TO ENGAGE IN THE CONFLICT AGAINST ISIS. LET'S GET
- 00:22:47.080 --> 00:22:52.070
- THE RUSSIANS TO ENGAGE ISIS. LET'S GET THE IRANIANS TO ENGAGE
- 00:22:52.080 --> 00:22:55.180
- ISIS. WELL, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE SHIA, WITH THE RUSSIANS IT'S ONE
- 00:22:55.190 --> 00:22:58.200
- THING, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A THEOLOGICAL FIGHT FOR THEM. FOR
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- THE IRANIANS IT IS. IT'S THE SHIA VERSION OF ISLAM, WHICH IS
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- WHAT THEY WANT TO EXPORT VS THE SUNNI VERSION, WHICH IS ISIS.
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- ABU BAKR AL-BAGHDADI. HE HAS THIS VIEW THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN
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- THE IRANIANS. AND SO YOU'VE GOT THIS INTERNAL COMBUSTION. BUT
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- THE RUSSIANS SEE OPPORTUNITY. NOW AT THE END OF THIS THEY
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- DON'T WANT TO SHARE THEIR POWER WITH THE JIHADISTS. THEY WANTED
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- THE JIHADISTS ULTIMATELY ELIMINATED TOO, BUT IN THE
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- INTERIM, THEY DON'T MIND COALESCING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
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- ASK YOURSELF, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A CONFLICT WE ALL KNOW
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- ABOUT. IF YOU READ THE PAPERS, YOU WATCH THE NEWS, YOU'VE GOT
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- IN GAZA THE CONFLICT WITH HAMAS AND ISRAEL. NOW HAMAS IS SUNNI,
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- THAT'S A BRANCH OF ISLAM. THEY GET MOST OF THEIR FUNDING FROM
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- IRAN, WHICH IS SHIA. THE SHIA WOULD NEVER FUND THE SUNNI 10
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- YEARS AGO. THEY WILL NOW. -RIGHT. -WHY? COMMON ENEMY. SO
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- THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR PARADIGM TOO. THEY'VE CHANGED THE WAY
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- THAT THEY'RE ENGAGING. SO WE HAVE TO, LOOK, I REALLY DO THINK
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- WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS COMPLETELY, I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO
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- SAY, HOW DO YOU SAY, YOU HAVE ALL THESE EXPERTS ON GLOBAL
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- AFFAIRS AND COMPLETELY GOT IT WRONG? BUT I DEAL WITH EVIDENCE.
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- THAT'S WHAT I DO. I'M A LAWYER SO I LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. THE
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- EVIDENCE SAYS WE GOT IT WRONG. I MEAN, NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT. NOT
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- JUST US, BY THE WAY. AND THIS ISN'T A POLITICAL PARTY. THIS IS
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- WORLD OPINION GOT THIS WRONG. WE UNDERESTIMATED, SIGNIFICANTLY,
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- THE FACTS AS THEY WERE EXISTING AND THE LETHALITY UPON WHICH
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- THESE GROUPS COULD ACT. WELL, THAT'S GOING TO DO IT FOR THE
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- BROADCAST TODAY. LET ME, AGAIN, AS WE DO WITH EACH AND EVERY
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- BROADCAST, YOUR SUPPORT OF TBN MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE AND TBN
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- IS OFFERING OUR BOOK "UNHOLY ALLIANCE" FOR A DONATION IN ANY
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- AMOUNT. SO WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO CALL THE NUMBER THAT'S ON THE
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- SCREEN. AND I WANT TO THANK, AGAIN, MATT AND LAURIE CROUCH
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- AND THE WHOLE TBN FAMILY FOR THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE ACLJ FOR
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- LITERALLY DECADES. WE GO BACK DECADES HERE. YOU'RE MAKING A
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- HUGE DIFFERENCE. WE DON'T PAY FOR THIS AIR TIME AND MEANS I
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- CAN DEPLOY MORE LAWYERS IN THE FIELD DEFENDING THOSE WHO CAN'T
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- DEFEND THEMSELVES. SO THANK YOU. WE'LL TALK TO YOU NEXT WEEK.
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