Joyce Meyer - Interrupted by God (Part 2)

August 29, 2025 | S E | 29:29

God gives us the grace we need right now. Be encouraged to take on every challenge with peace, joy, and confidence...because God is with you!

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Joyce Meyer: Enjoying Everyday Life | Joyce Meyer - Interrupted by God (Part 2) | August 29, 2025
  • >> joyce: how many of you are
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  • >> joyce: how many of you are someplace in life right now
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  • >> joyce: how many of you are someplace in life right now that just doesn't make
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  • Someplace in life right now that just doesn't make any sense to you at all?
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  • That just doesn't make any sense to you at all? [laughing]
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  • Any sense to you at all? [laughing] better than half
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  • [laughing] better than half of the people in here.
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  • Better than half of the people in here. well, you know,
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  • Of the people in here. well, you know, you live life forward,
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  • Well, you know, you live life forward, but you understand
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  • You live life forward, but you understand it backwards.
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  • >> joyce: i'm joyce meyer,
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  • >> joyce: i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal
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  • >> joyce: i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal you everywhere you hurt.
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  • >> ginger: hi, everyone.
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  • >> ginger: hi, everyone. just before we start
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  • Just before we start today's teaching from joyce,
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  • Today's teaching from joyce, i want to remind you ladies
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  • I want to remind you ladies to sign up for the 2025
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  • To sign up for the 2025 love life women's conference.
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  • Love life women's conference. joyce will be there with
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  • Joyce will be there with inspiring messages,
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  • Inspiring messages, along with special guests
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  • Cece winans, lisa terkeurst,
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  • Cece winans, lisa terkeurst, and pat barrett.
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  • And pat barrett. you are going to learn
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  • You are going to learn what it means to be fully his.
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  • What it means to be fully his. it's september 18th-20th
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  • It's september 18th-20th in san antonio, texas.
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  • Grab your friends, call your
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  • Grab your friends, call your mom and your daughters,
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  • Mom and your daughters, make it a special event
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  • Make it a special event for you and your girls.
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  • For you and your girls. you'll be taking time for
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  • You'll be taking time for yourselves and laying aside
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  • Yourselves and laying aside the cares of this world,
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  • The cares of this world, to focus on the one who
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  • To focus on the one who focuses on you every day.
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  • Focuses on you every day. use the information
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  • Use the information on your screen
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  • On your screen to register and don't
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  • To register and don't miss this great event.
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  • >> joyce: not everything that
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  • >> joyce: not everything that god asks us to do is convenient
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  • >> joyce: not everything that god asks us to do is convenient but everything god asks
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  • God asks us to do is convenient but everything god asks us to do he does give
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  • But everything god asks us to do he does give us the grace to do it.
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  • Us to do he does give us the grace to do it. >> [audience applauding]
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  • Us the grace to do it. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: i always say that
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: i always say that god gives you the grace
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  • >> joyce: i always say that god gives you the grace for the place.
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  • God gives you the grace for the place. so, let's talk about joseph
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  • For the place. so, let's talk about joseph for a minute because i find
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  • So, let's talk about joseph for a minute because i find this to be very interesting.
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  • For a minute because i find this to be very interesting. how many of you are someplace
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  • This to be very interesting. how many of you are someplace in life right now that just
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  • How many of you are someplace in life right now that just doesn't make any sense
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  • In life right now that just doesn't make any sense to you at all?
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  • Doesn't make any sense to you at all? better than half
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  • To you at all? better than half of the people in here.
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  • Better than half of the people in here. well, you know, you live life
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  • Of the people in here. well, you know, you live life forward, but you understand
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  • Well, you know, you live life forward, but you understand it backwards.
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  • Forward, but you understand it backwards. when you're going through stuff,
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  • It backwards. when you're going through stuff, you just don't get it.
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  • When you're going through stuff, you just don't get it. but later on you can look back.
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  • You just don't get it. but later on you can look back. so many of the things that were
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  • But later on you can look back. so many of the things that were so hard for me, i look back now
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  • So many of the things that were so hard for me, i look back now and i realize how god had
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  • So hard for me, i look back now and i realize how god had to let that happen.
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  • And i realize how god had to let that happen. you know, sometimes god will
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  • To let that happen. you know, sometimes god will even use people's weaknesses
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  • You know, sometimes god will even use people's weaknesses to help us grow spiritually.
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  • Even use people's weaknesses to help us grow spiritually. how can we ever learn to love
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  • The unlovely if everybody
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  • The unlovely if everybody we're around is nice to us?
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  • The unlovely if everybody we're around is nice to us? that's not unconditional love.
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  • We're around is nice to us? that's not unconditional love. don't expect every day of your
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  • That's not unconditional love. don't expect every day of your life to be perfect.
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  • Don't expect every day of your life to be perfect. now i'm not saying you gotta
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  • Life to be perfect. now i'm not saying you gotta go around and believe
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  • Now i'm not saying you gotta go around and believe for trouble all the time,
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  • Go around and believe for trouble all the time, but don't be shocked when
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  • For trouble all the time, but don't be shocked when things are inconvenient.
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  • So, joseph went from living
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  • So, joseph went from living a nice little life, he was
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  • So, joseph went from living a nice little life, he was the youngest, daddy's favorite,
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  • A nice little life, he was the youngest, daddy's favorite, you know the babies are
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  • The youngest, daddy's favorite, you know the babies are always the favorite.
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  • You know the babies are always the favorite. he went from that to slavery,
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  • Always the favorite. he went from that to slavery, to prison, to being put
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  • He went from that to slavery, to prison, to being put in a position to save a nation.
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  • To prison, to being put in a position to save a nation. you notice, he had to leave
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  • In a position to save a nation. you notice, he had to leave comfort, go into misery,
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  • You notice, he had to leave comfort, go into misery, to be in a position where
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  • Comfort, go into misery, to be in a position where he could save a nation.
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  • To be in a position where he could save a nation. come on, let's do it again.
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  • He went from comfort,
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  • He went from comfort, to unjust, unfair treatment,
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  • He went from comfort, to unjust, unfair treatment, very uncomfortable,
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  • To unjust, unfair treatment, very uncomfortable, he had to go through
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  • Very uncomfortable, he had to go through that stage to grow him
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  • He had to go through that stage to grow him up enough to get him
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  • He could save a nation.
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  • He could save a nation. >> [audience applauding]
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: when god called
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  • First of all, i was not doing
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  • First of all, i was not doing anything special.
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  • First of all, i was not doing anything special. i was making my bed.
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  • Anything special. i was making my bed. and i had three teenagers
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  • I was making my bed. and i had three teenagers at the time and basically,
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  • And i had three teenagers at the time and basically, was just trying to survive
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  • At the time and basically, was just trying to survive life, you know.
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  • Was just trying to survive life, you know. i loved god and we went
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  • Life, you know. i loved god and we went to church every week
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  • I loved god and we went to church every week and--but i didn't act like
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  • To church every week and--but i didn't act like much of a christian.
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  • And--but i didn't act like much of a christian. i mean, i was very immature,
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  • Much of a christian. i mean, i was very immature, always mad and upset
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  • I mean, i was very immature, always mad and upset about somethin'.
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  • Always mad and upset about somethin'. and, i would've been your
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  • About somethin'. and, i would've been your least likely candidate probably
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  • And, i would've been your least likely candidate probably to be called to preach.
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  • Least likely candidate probably to be called to preach. but, god knows things about us,
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  • To be called to preach. but, god knows things about us, he not only sees where we're at,
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  • But, god knows things about us, he not only sees where we're at, but he sees where we will be.
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  • He not only sees where we're at, but he sees where we will be. >> [audience applauding]
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  • But he sees where we will be. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and you know, let
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and you know, let me just throw in here that
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  • >> joyce: and you know, let me just throw in here that we need to be willing to look
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  • Me just throw in here that we need to be willing to look at more people that way.
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  • Not just look at where they're
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  • Not just look at where they're at right now, but what their
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  • Not just look at where they're at right now, but what their potential is if somebody will
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  • At right now, but what their potential is if somebody will love them unconditionally,
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  • Potential is if somebody will love them unconditionally, pray for them, and stick with
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  • Love them unconditionally, pray for them, and stick with them through some stuff.
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  • Pray for them, and stick with them through some stuff. >> [audience applauding]
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  • Them through some stuff. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: amen?
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: amen? you know, dave was dating three
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  • >> joyce: amen? you know, dave was dating three girls when he met me and
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  • You know, dave was dating three girls when he met me and he was praying for a wife.
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  • Girls when he met me and he was praying for a wife. i always say, "dave definitely
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  • He was praying for a wife. i always say, "dave definitely believed that faith without
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  • I always say, "dave definitely believed that faith without works is dead," so...
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  • Believed that faith without works is dead," so... >> [audience laughing]
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  • Works is dead," so... >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: he was believing
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  • >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: he was believing for a wife but he was dating
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  • >> joyce: he was believing for a wife but he was dating everything that moved and so...
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  • For a wife but he was dating everything that moved and so... >> [audience laughing]
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  • >> joyce: when he met me, we had
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  • >> joyce: when he met me, we had five dates and got married.
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  • >> joyce: when he met me, we had five dates and got married. i don't recommend it, but...
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  • Five dates and got married. i don't recommend it, but... >> [audience laughing]
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  • I don't recommend it, but... >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: i always say that
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  • >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: i always say that he had to marry me before
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  • >> joyce: i always say that he had to marry me before he found out what he was
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  • He had to marry me before he found out what he was really getting or we'd have
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  • He found out what he was really getting or we'd have never worked, so.
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  • Really getting or we'd have never worked, so. i mean, i was hard
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  • Never worked, so. i mean, i was hard to deal with.
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  • I mean, i was hard to deal with. i'd been abused and divorced
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  • To deal with. i'd been abused and divorced and didn't trust anybody.
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  • I'd been abused and divorced and didn't trust anybody. i mean, i can actually tell you
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  • And didn't trust anybody. i mean, i can actually tell you when i married dave i could
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  • I mean, i can actually tell you when i married dave i could never remember ever being
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  • When i married dave i could never remember ever being really happy in my life,
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  • Never remember ever being really happy in my life, or ever feeling safe.
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  • And so, i just had a lot
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  • And so, i just had a lot of wounds and a lot of hurts.
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  • And so, i just had a lot of wounds and a lot of hurts. and man, if he would've done
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  • Of wounds and a lot of hurts. and man, if he would've done things like so many
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  • And man, if he would've done things like so many people do today,
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  • Things like so many people do today, if you're uncomfortable,
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  • People do today, if you're uncomfortable, it's inconvenient,
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  • If you're uncomfortable, it's inconvenient, you're incompatible--
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  • Who is compatible?
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  • Who is compatible? i mean--
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  • Who is compatible? i mean-- >> [audience laughing]
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  • I mean-- >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: i mean, who marries
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  • >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: i mean, who marries somebody and says, "oh, i just
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  • >> joyce: i mean, who marries somebody and says, "oh, i just like everything you do,"
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  • Somebody and says, "oh, i just like everything you do," you know?
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  • Like everything you do," you know? and, i mean, that's just
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  • You know? and, i mean, that's just fantasy.
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  • And, i mean, that's just fantasy. and so, you know, you get along
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  • Fantasy. and so, you know, you get along because you choose to get along.
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  • Decide that you don't have
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  • Decide that you don't have to have your way all the time,
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  • To have your way all the time, and that you're gonna do what
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  • And that you're gonna do what god wants you to do,
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  • And so, if dave would've been
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  • And so, if dave would've been more concerned about his comfort
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  • And so, if dave would've been more concerned about his comfort than doing what he felt like god
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  • More concerned about his comfort than doing what he felt like god wanted him to do, i probably
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  • Than doing what he felt like god wanted him to do, i probably wouldn't be here today
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  • Wanted him to do, i probably wouldn't be here today doing what i'm doing.
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  • Wouldn't be here today doing what i'm doing. because, somebody had to not
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  • Doing what i'm doing. because, somebody had to not just tell me about jesus,
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  • Because, somebody had to not just tell me about jesus, somebody had to be jesus
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  • Just tell me about jesus, somebody had to be jesus in my life.
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  • Somebody had to be jesus in my life. and, i'll tell you, i didn't
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  • In my life. and, i'll tell you, i didn't change overnight.
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  • And, i'll tell you, i didn't change overnight. it took some time.
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  • Change overnight. it took some time. and, so many things--when
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  • It took some time. and, so many things--when god called me into ministry,
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  • And, so many things--when god called me into ministry, there were so many hard
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  • God called me into ministry, there were so many hard things that i went through.
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  • There were so many hard things that i went through. i mean, we lost all
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  • Things that i went through. i mean, we lost all of our friends.
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  • I mean, we lost all of our friends. we got asked to leave
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  • Of our friends. we got asked to leave our church.
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  • We got asked to leave our church. we had to find different schools
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  • Our church. we had to find different schools for our kids because they went
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  • We had to find different schools for our kids because they went to school at church.
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  • For our kids because they went to school at church. and people that i loved
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  • To school at church. and people that i loved and trusted turned against me,
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  • And people that i loved and trusted turned against me, and talked about me.
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  • And trusted turned against me, and talked about me. and man, i didn't
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  • And talked about me. and man, i didn't understand all that.
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  • And man, i didn't understand all that. i was just trying to be a good
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  • Understand all that. i was just trying to be a good girl and do what i felt like
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  • I was just trying to be a good girl and do what i felt like god wanted me to do you.
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  • Girl and do what i felt like god wanted me to do you. you ever feel like that?
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  • God wanted me to do you. you ever feel like that? "well, i'm just trying
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  • You ever feel like that? "well, i'm just trying to do what i think is right
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  • "well, i'm just trying to do what i think is right and i feel like all hell's
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  • To do what i think is right and i feel like all hell's broken loose on me."
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  • And i feel like all hell's broken loose on me." come on.
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  • Broken loose on me." come on. do you ever feel that way?
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  • Come on. do you ever feel that way? it's like--
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  • Do you ever feel that way? it's like-- >> [audience applauding]
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  • It's like-- >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: well see, we expect
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: well see, we expect that if we do what's right
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  • >> joyce: well see, we expect that if we do what's right that we should get rewarded
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  • That if we do what's right that we should get rewarded right away.
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  • That we should get rewarded right away. but that doesn't always
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  • Right away. but that doesn't always happen that way.
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  • But that doesn't always happen that way. those who diligently seek god
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  • Happen that way. those who diligently seek god will receive a reward
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  • Those who diligently seek god will receive a reward in due time, in due time.
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  • Will receive a reward in due time, in due time. well, now i look back,
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  • In due time, in due time. well, now i look back, i didn't understand--
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  • Well, now i look back, i didn't understand-- oh man, i did not understand.
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  • I didn't understand-- oh man, i did not understand. i mean, family members
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  • Oh man, i did not understand. i mean, family members turned against us.
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  • I mean, family members turned against us. it was a tough time.
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  • Turned against us. it was a tough time. i tell dave sometimes i don't
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  • It was a tough time. i tell dave sometimes i don't really even--other than
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  • I tell dave sometimes i don't really even--other than the grace of god, i don't know
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  • Really even--other than the grace of god, i don't know how i even had the ability
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  • The grace of god, i don't know how i even had the ability to keep saying, "yes,"
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  • How i even had the ability to keep saying, "yes," to god with everything
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  • To keep saying, "yes," to god with everything that i was losing.
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  • To god with everything that i was losing. you have to understand back when
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  • That i was losing. you have to understand back when i started doing this, i mean,
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  • You have to understand back when i started doing this, i mean, women in ministry were
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  • I started doing this, i mean, women in ministry were just like, very unpopular.
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  • Women in ministry were just like, very unpopular. there just wasn't
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  • Just like, very unpopular. there just wasn't that many people.
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  • There just wasn't that many people. but, i look back now, and i was
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  • That many people. but, i look back now, and i was so dependent on people
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  • But, i look back now, and i was so dependent on people and what they thought of me.
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  • And i got my worth and
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  • And i got my worth and my significance from people.
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  • And i got my worth and my significance from people. and i'm telling you what,
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  • My significance from people. and i'm telling you what, god had to kick every prop
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  • And i'm telling you what, god had to kick every prop out from under me and teach
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  • God had to kick every prop out from under me and teach me how to get rooted
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  • Out from under me and teach me how to get rooted and grounded in him.
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  • Me how to get rooted and grounded in him. >> [audience applauding]
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  • And grounded in him. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: so, maybe you're some
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: so, maybe you're some place right now, where you
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  • >> joyce: so, maybe you're some place right now, where you don't--it's not convenient,
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  • It's not comfortable,
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  • It's not comfortable, you don't wanna be there.
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  • It's not comfortable, you don't wanna be there. well, let me make a new
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  • You don't wanna be there. well, let me make a new suggestion to you, instead
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  • Well, let me make a new suggestion to you, instead of begging god to get you
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  • Suggestion to you, instead of begging god to get you out of there, why don't you
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  • Of begging god to get you out of there, why don't you just say, "god, when you're
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  • Out of there, why don't you just say, "god, when you're ready to move me to another
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  • Just say, "god, when you're ready to move me to another place, i trust that you will,
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  • Ready to move me to another place, i trust that you will, but in the meantime,
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  • Place, i trust that you will, but in the meantime, teach me whatever it is i need
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  • But in the meantime, teach me whatever it is i need to learn while i'm here
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  • Teach me whatever it is i need to learn while i'm here and use me for your glory
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  • To learn while i'm here and use me for your glory while i'm in this place"?
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  • And use me for your glory while i'm in this place"? >> [audience applauding]
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  • While i'm in this place"? >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: you know how much
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: you know how much more you would enjoy?
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  • >> joyce: you know how much more you would enjoy? you can enjoy being
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  • More you would enjoy? you can enjoy being in hard places if you have
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  • You can enjoy being in hard places if you have the right attitude.
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  • In hard places if you have the right attitude. how many of you need to hear
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  • >> [audience applauding]
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: all right.
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  • >> joyce: all right. 'cause i'll quit if you
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  • 'cause i'll quit if you don't want to hear it.
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  • Don't want to hear it. well, probably i won't, but.
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  • Well, probably i won't, but. >> [audience laughing]
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  • Has gone through all this stuff
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  • Has gone through all this stuff and it's been really hard.
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  • Has gone through all this stuff and it's been really hard. he's in prison for 13 years for
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  • And it's been really hard. he's in prison for 13 years for something that he did not do.
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  • He's in prison for 13 years for something that he did not do. he helped the baker and the
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  • Something that he did not do. he helped the baker and the butler get out of prison,
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  • He helped the baker and the butler get out of prison, asked them to remember him,
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  • Butler get out of prison, asked them to remember him, they, of course, they forgot
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  • Asked them to remember him, they, of course, they forgot all about him.
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  • They, of course, they forgot all about him. he stayed in prison.
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  • All about him. he stayed in prison. but, you know, when god has
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  • He stayed in prison. but, you know, when god has a plan for your life no matter
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  • But, you know, when god has a plan for your life no matter what people don't do for you,
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  • A plan for your life no matter what people don't do for you, come on now, when god
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  • What people don't do for you, come on now, when god is ready to make a move,
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  • Come on now, when god is ready to make a move, nobody will stop him.
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  • Is ready to make a move, nobody will stop him. >> [audience applauding]
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  • Nobody will stop him. >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and listen, part
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  • >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and listen, part of satan's plan is to get
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  • >> joyce: and listen, part of satan's plan is to get us all messed up with
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  • Of satan's plan is to get us all messed up with bitterness and unforgiveness.
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  • Us all messed up with bitterness and unforgiveness. so he arranges for people
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  • Bitterness and unforgiveness. so he arranges for people to hurt us, hoping we'll get all
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  • So he arranges for people to hurt us, hoping we'll get all messed up inside, so then
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  • To hurt us, hoping we'll get all messed up inside, so then we never end up getting what
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  • Messed up inside, so then we never end up getting what god wants us to have because
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  • We never end up getting what god wants us to have because now we're out of sorts with god.
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  • But, if you can just continue
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  • But, if you can just continue doing what god tells you to do,
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  • But, if you can just continue doing what god tells you to do, when your time--listen to me,
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  • Doing what god tells you to do, when your time--listen to me, when your time for promotion
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  • When your time--listen to me, when your time for promotion comes, no man on earth
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  • When your time for promotion comes, no man on earth and no devil in hell can
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  • Comes, no man on earth and no devil in hell can keep you from what god
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  • And no devil in hell can keep you from what god has for you.
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  • Keep you from what god has for you. >> [audience applauding]
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  • >> [music]
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  • >> ginger: if you are a young
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  • >> ginger: if you are a young mother or a mother of young
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  • Mother or a mother of young children, you may not
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  • Children, you may not necessarily be a young person,
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  • Necessarily be a young person, but there is nothing better
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  • But there is nothing better than to sit down with someone
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  • Than to sit down with someone who's been there,
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  • Who's been there, to get encouraged,
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  • To get encouraged, and to learn lessons
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  • From what they've learned.
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  • From what they've learned. so in our candid conversation
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  • So in our candid conversation today, we're sitting down
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  • Today, we're sitting down with joyce and we're giving
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  • With joyce and we're giving encouragement to those moms.
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  • Encouragement to those moms. >> joyce: well, i have four
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  • >> joyce: well, i have four children, and of course
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  • Children, and of course now they're very far away
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  • Now they're very far away from being young children.
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  • From being young children. my baby is now 41,
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  • My baby is now 41, and my oldest son is 56.
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  • And my oldest son is 56. so, if you can do any kind
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  • So, if you can do any kind of math, that kind of tells
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  • Of math, that kind of tells you a little bit about
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  • You a little bit about how old i am.
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  • How old i am. but i look back and i was
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  • But i look back and i was such a mess emotionally,
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  • Such a mess emotionally, mentally.
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  • Mentally. i mean, my daughter and i have
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  • I mean, my daughter and i have talked about it, and she said,
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  • Talked about it, and she said, "you know, with the way
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  • "you know, with the way you were raised and what
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  • You were raised and what had happened to you,"
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  • Had happened to you," she said, "it is amazing what
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  • She said, "it is amazing what a good mother you were."
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  • A good mother you were." and i was.
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  • And i was. i mean, i was a good mother.
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  • I mean, i was a good mother. and i know a lot of women
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  • And i know a lot of women that are pregnant,
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  • That are pregnant, they're afraid that they're
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  • They're afraid that they're not gonna be good moms.
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  • Not gonna be good moms. and, you know, i believe that
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  • And, you know, i believe that god just--if he gives you
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  • God just--if he gives you a child, he gives you that
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  • A child, he gives you that ability to be a good mother.
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  • Ability to be a good mother. now, i look back and there's
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  • Now, i look back and there's things that i really wish
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  • Things that i really wish i would've done differently.
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  • I would've done differently. i never was much
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  • I never was much to play with my kids.
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  • To play with my kids. i was more the responsible.
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  • I was more the responsible. i took good care of them.
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  • I took good care of them. i made sure that their
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  • I made sure that their clothes were right
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  • Clothes were right and their food was good.
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  • And their food was good. and i made sure they had toys,
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  • And i made sure they had toys, but nobody really played with
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  • But nobody really played with me when i was growing up,
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  • Me when i was growing up, and there was not
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  • And there was not much fun in my house.
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  • Much fun in my house. matter of fact, i remember
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  • Matter of fact, i remember when i was growing up getting
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  • When i was growing up getting in trouble for laughing.
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  • In trouble for laughing. so i didn't place
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  • So i didn't place a lot of value on fun.
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  • A lot of value on fun. i didn't read to my children.
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  • I didn't read to my children. nobody ever read to me.
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  • Nobody ever read to me. and i didn't even
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  • And i didn't even know to do that.
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  • Know to do that. and i would, i wish with all
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  • And i would, i wish with all my heart i would've read
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  • My heart i would've read to them, because a couple
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  • To them, because a couple of ‘em just really don't have
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  • Of ‘em just really don't have any love for reading at all.
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  • Any love for reading at all. they have a difficult
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  • They have a difficult time doing it.
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  • Time doing it. and i think you can teach your
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  • And i think you can teach your children to love to read
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  • Children to love to read by reading to them.
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  • By reading to them. but for the moms that are
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  • But for the moms that are struggling right now,
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  • Struggling right now, and you know, you can struggle
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  • And you know, you can struggle if you have one child
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  • If you have one child or if you have several.
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  • I mean, you almost always
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  • I mean, you almost always have a child that you love
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  • Have a child that you love but you don't like.
  • 00:12:47.523 --> 00:12:49.058
  • But you don't like. >> ginger: at least in some
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  • >> ginger: at least in some phase of their life, yeah.
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  • Phase of their life, yeah. >> joyce: yeah, i mean,
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  • >> joyce: yeah, i mean, it's like my oldest son
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  • It's like my oldest son was very--he had to be in
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  • Was very--he had to be in control of everything.
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  • Control of everything. and i mean, that's even when
  • 00:12:58.000 --> 00:12:58.901
  • And i mean, that's even when he was in his playpen.
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  • He was in his playpen. i mean, it was like i felt
  • 00:13:00.169 --> 00:13:01.136
  • I mean, it was like i felt like he was...
  • 00:13:01.203 --> 00:13:01.804
  • Like he was... >> ginger: started out that way.
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  • >> ginger: started out that way. >> joyce: never happy with me,
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  • >> joyce: never happy with me, no matter what i did.
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  • No matter what i did. and i didn't know what
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  • And i didn't know what in the world was wrong.
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  • In the world was wrong. and of course, now i realize
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  • And of course, now i realize he just had a strong
  • 00:13:08.344 --> 00:13:09.645
  • He just had a strong type “a” personality,
  • 00:13:09.712 --> 00:13:11.847
  • Type “a” personality, and we just had a lot
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  • And we just had a lot of friction because
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  • Of friction because to be honest, we were
  • 00:13:14.149 --> 00:13:15.451
  • Both the same way.
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  • Both the same way. so we were fighting with
  • 00:13:16.318 --> 00:13:17.419
  • So we were fighting with each other all the time.
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  • Each other all the time. but now he runs
  • 00:13:20.222 --> 00:13:21.190
  • But now he runs our world missions.
  • 00:13:21.257 --> 00:13:22.691
  • Our world missions. and so you will make it.
  • 00:13:22.758 --> 00:13:25.661
  • And so you will make it. i want to encourage you,
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  • I want to encourage you, no matter what kind of a day
  • 00:13:26.762 --> 00:13:27.997
  • No matter what kind of a day you're having today,
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  • You're having today, you will make it.
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  • You will make it. don't try to do it,
  • 00:13:30.833 --> 00:13:31.500
  • Don't try to do it, on your own--pray.
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  • On your own--pray. ask god to help you.
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  • Ask god to help you. i mean, if you can only manage
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  • I mean, if you can only manage three minutes or five minutes
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  • Three minutes or five minutes with the lord in the morning
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  • With the lord in the morning before your kids get up,
  • 00:13:40.776 --> 00:13:43.145
  • Before your kids get up, don't just try
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  • Don't just try to make it on your own.
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  • To make it on your own. but pray that god
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  • But pray that god will help you.
  • 00:13:49.385 --> 00:13:49.952
  • Will help you. and one of the things that
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  • And one of the things that i do remember doing that
  • 00:13:51.620 --> 00:13:52.621
  • I do remember doing that i think was right, and i wanna
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  • I think was right, and i wanna encourage people in is,
  • 00:13:54.390 --> 00:13:55.724
  • Encourage people in is, is when i was wrong, if i lost
  • 00:13:55.791 --> 00:13:58.327
  • Is when i was wrong, if i lost my temper and i yelled
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  • My temper and i yelled at my kids or whatever.
  • 00:14:00.029 --> 00:14:01.630
  • At my kids or whatever. when i was wrong, i would
  • 00:14:01.697 --> 00:14:03.098
  • When i was wrong, i would go back and tell them,
  • 00:14:03.165 --> 00:14:04.066
  • Go back and tell them, "mommy was wrong.
  • 00:14:04.133 --> 00:14:04.767
  • "mommy was wrong. i shouldn't have done that."
  • 00:14:04.833 --> 00:14:06.201
  • I shouldn't have done that." and i think that gives your
  • 00:14:06.268 --> 00:14:07.403
  • And i think that gives your children respect for you,
  • 00:14:07.469 --> 00:14:08.971
  • Children respect for you, if you admit your mistakes
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  • If you admit your mistakes to them.
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  • To them. >> ginger: it teaches them
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  • >> ginger: it teaches them so much.
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  • So much. >> joyce: but your kids grow
  • 00:14:15.311 --> 00:14:17.313
  • >> joyce: but your kids grow up and they grow up a lot
  • 00:14:17.379 --> 00:14:18.681
  • Up and they grow up a lot faster than you think
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  • Faster than you think they do, and...
  • 00:14:19.648 --> 00:14:21.250
  • They do, and... >> ginger: i never used
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  • >> ginger: i never used to believe that.
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  • To believe that. >> joyce: i know.
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  • >> joyce: i know. >> ginger: when your kids
  • 00:14:23.552 --> 00:14:24.219
  • >> ginger: when your kids are little, you think, "oh, no,
  • 00:14:24.286 --> 00:14:26.088
  • Are little, you think, "oh, no, it's not going quickly."
  • 00:14:26.155 --> 00:14:28.257
  • It's not going quickly." and yet now with the same
  • 00:14:28.324 --> 00:14:30.125
  • And yet now with the same hindsight that you're talking
  • 00:14:30.192 --> 00:14:31.260
  • Hindsight that you're talking about, it really does,
  • 00:14:31.327 --> 00:14:32.528
  • About, it really does, it flies by.
  • 00:14:32.594 --> 00:14:33.362
  • It flies by. >> joyce: and it amazes me that
  • 00:14:33.429 --> 00:14:35.030
  • >> joyce: and it amazes me that some people get so, i mean,
  • 00:14:35.097 --> 00:14:38.834
  • Some people get so, i mean, really have problems
  • 00:14:38.901 --> 00:14:40.135
  • Really have problems when all their kids leave,
  • 00:14:40.202 --> 00:14:41.070
  • When all their kids leave, and they have what they call,
  • 00:14:41.136 --> 00:14:41.971
  • And they have what they call, the empty nest syndrome.
  • 00:14:42.037 --> 00:14:44.306
  • The empty nest syndrome. you know, i just didn't
  • 00:14:44.373 --> 00:14:45.374
  • You know, i just didn't have that problem.
  • 00:14:45.441 --> 00:14:46.041
  • Have that problem. i mean, i loved my kids,
  • 00:14:46.108 --> 00:14:47.543
  • I mean, i loved my kids, but it's another season
  • 00:14:47.609 --> 00:14:49.712
  • But it's another season in your life.
  • 00:14:49.778 --> 00:14:50.479
  • In your life. it's a god thing.
  • 00:14:50.546 --> 00:14:51.780
  • It's a god thing. it's meant to be that way.
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  • It's meant to be that way. and if you have a two-year-old
  • 00:14:53.115 --> 00:14:56.051
  • And if you have a two-year-old right now, that's a season.
  • 00:14:56.118 --> 00:14:57.653
  • Right now, that's a season. when they start to school,
  • 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:58.921
  • When they start to school, that's another season.
  • 00:14:58.988 --> 00:15:02.224
  • That's another season. you know, things don't
  • 00:15:02.291 --> 00:15:03.359
  • You know, things don't stay the same.
  • 00:15:03.425 --> 00:15:04.059
  • Stay the same. things will change.
  • 00:15:04.126 --> 00:15:05.427
  • Things will change. and god never puts more
  • 00:15:05.494 --> 00:15:06.695
  • And god never puts more on you than what you can bear,
  • 00:15:06.762 --> 00:15:07.796
  • On you than what you can bear, but with every temptation,
  • 00:15:07.863 --> 00:15:08.964
  • But with every temptation, he also provides the way out.
  • 00:15:09.031 --> 00:15:11.166
  • He also provides the way out. and i just really wanna
  • 00:15:11.233 --> 00:15:12.267
  • And i just really wanna encourage these moms
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  • Encourage these moms that they're probably
  • 00:15:14.303 --> 00:15:14.970
  • That they're probably doing a lot better than what
  • 00:15:15.037 --> 00:15:16.405
  • Doing a lot better than what they may think they are, and...
  • 00:15:16.472 --> 00:15:19.875
  • They may think they are, and... >> ginger: that's a big point.
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  • >> ginger: that's a big point. >> joyce: yeah.
  • 00:15:21.176 --> 00:15:21.744
  • >> joyce: yeah. >> ginger: because we do often
  • 00:15:21.810 --> 00:15:22.845
  • >> ginger: because we do often look back at the day and only
  • 00:15:22.911 --> 00:15:24.580
  • Look back at the day and only see the mistakes.
  • 00:15:24.646 --> 00:15:25.714
  • See the mistakes. we don't always see the things
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  • We don't always see the things that god was helping
  • 00:15:28.884 --> 00:15:29.852
  • That god was helping us to do right.
  • 00:15:29.918 --> 00:15:31.387
  • Us to do right. and i think it is such
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  • And i think it is such a refreshing thing for young
  • 00:15:33.155 --> 00:15:36.658
  • A refreshing thing for young moms to listen to moms
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  • Moms to listen to moms who now have adult children
  • 00:15:39.061 --> 00:15:40.396
  • Who now have adult children who say they turned out okay.
  • 00:15:40.462 --> 00:15:42.097
  • Who say they turned out okay. you know, it wasn't everything
  • 00:15:42.164 --> 00:15:45.534
  • You know, it wasn't everything that i was afraid of.
  • 00:15:45.601 --> 00:15:46.735
  • That i was afraid of. things--god took care
  • 00:15:46.802 --> 00:15:49.238
  • Things--god took care of things i couldn't.
  • 00:15:49.304 --> 00:15:50.506
  • Of things i couldn't. it's very reassuring.
  • 00:15:50.572 --> 00:15:52.241
  • It's very reassuring. >> joyce: i marvel all the time
  • 00:15:52.307 --> 00:15:53.275
  • >> joyce: i marvel all the time because my one daughter,
  • 00:15:53.342 --> 00:15:54.510
  • Because my one daughter, my oldest daughter, laura,
  • 00:15:54.576 --> 00:15:58.580
  • My oldest daughter, laura, that girl was so disorganized
  • 00:15:58.647 --> 00:16:00.249
  • That girl was so disorganized and so messy and forgetful
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  • And so messy and forgetful and she hated school
  • 00:16:03.485 --> 00:16:05.154
  • And she hated school and she just...
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  • And she just... i couldn't wait to get
  • 00:16:07.790 --> 00:16:08.657
  • I couldn't wait to get her out of school.
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  • Her out of school. i mean, she despised it.
  • 00:16:09.425 --> 00:16:11.060
  • I mean, she despised it. she didn't get very good grades,
  • 00:16:11.126 --> 00:16:13.328
  • She didn't get very good grades, and she wasn't very popular.
  • 00:16:13.395 --> 00:16:14.930
  • And she wasn't very popular. and i mean, it was just
  • 00:16:14.997 --> 00:16:15.798
  • And i mean, it was just on and on and on.
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  • On and on and on. and i mean, i actually wondered
  • 00:16:17.199 --> 00:16:19.034
  • And i mean, i actually wondered what was gonna happen
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  • What was gonna happen to the girl when she got
  • 00:16:19.701 --> 00:16:20.502
  • To the girl when she got away from home on her own,
  • 00:16:20.569 --> 00:16:21.470
  • Away from home on her own, because she just--was so messy.
  • 00:16:21.537 --> 00:16:25.074
  • Because she just--was so messy. and now, she of course,
  • 00:16:25.140 --> 00:16:26.742
  • And now, she of course, is in her 50s, and she is like
  • 00:16:26.809 --> 00:16:30.145
  • Is in her 50s, and she is like my a number one helper.
  • 00:16:30.212 --> 00:16:31.613
  • My a number one helper. i don't know what in the world
  • 00:16:31.680 --> 00:16:32.648
  • I don't know what in the world i would do without her.
  • 00:16:32.714 --> 00:16:33.715
  • I would do without her. she does so many things
  • 00:16:33.782 --> 00:16:34.883
  • She does so many things for me and is extremely
  • 00:16:34.950 --> 00:16:37.086
  • For me and is extremely organized.
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  • Organized. and so the things that
  • 00:16:38.287 --> 00:16:39.421
  • And so the things that you think, "my gosh,
  • 00:16:39.488 --> 00:16:41.990
  • You think, "my gosh, this kid's never gonna change."
  • 00:16:42.057 --> 00:16:43.592
  • This kid's never gonna change." i can tell you that
  • 00:16:43.659 --> 00:16:44.993
  • I can tell you that they will change.
  • 00:16:45.060 --> 00:16:45.794
  • >> ginger: yeah.
  • 00:16:45.861 --> 00:16:47.162
  • >> ginger: yeah. what would you say to a mom
  • 00:16:47.229 --> 00:16:50.065
  • What would you say to a mom right now, who is dealing
  • 00:16:50.132 --> 00:16:51.400
  • Right now, who is dealing with her own issues?
  • 00:16:51.467 --> 00:16:53.469
  • With her own issues? you know, you were still
  • 00:16:53.535 --> 00:16:54.536
  • You know, you were still going through that healing
  • 00:16:54.603 --> 00:16:55.471
  • Going through that healing process when you had
  • 00:16:55.537 --> 00:16:57.239
  • Process when you had your children.
  • 00:16:57.306 --> 00:16:57.806
  • Your children. so we all have things in our
  • 00:16:57.873 --> 00:16:59.341
  • So we all have things in our own life, but we also have
  • 00:16:59.408 --> 00:17:00.943
  • Own life, but we also have these other lives that we're
  • 00:17:01.009 --> 00:17:02.111
  • These other lives that we're responsible for.
  • 00:17:02.177 --> 00:17:03.512
  • Responsible for. what would you say to those
  • 00:17:03.579 --> 00:17:05.047
  • What would you say to those moms, to encourage them in,
  • 00:17:05.114 --> 00:17:07.082
  • Moms, to encourage them in, as they're growing,
  • 00:17:07.149 --> 00:17:09.852
  • As they're growing, god honors what they're doing.
  • 00:17:09.918 --> 00:17:13.088
  • God honors what they're doing. >> joyce: yeah, i mean,
  • 00:17:13.155 --> 00:17:14.056
  • >> joyce: yeah, i mean, god knows where you're at.
  • 00:17:14.123 --> 00:17:14.990
  • God knows where you're at. he understands where you're at.
  • 00:17:15.057 --> 00:17:17.092
  • And when i started
  • 00:17:17.159 --> 00:17:20.295
  • And when i started teaching the word,
  • 00:17:20.362 --> 00:17:23.031
  • Teaching the word, i didn't know anything.
  • 00:17:23.098 --> 00:17:24.166
  • I didn't know anything. i mean, i had to study
  • 00:17:24.233 --> 00:17:25.334
  • I mean, i had to study really hard.
  • 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:26.969
  • Really hard. and i would always study things
  • 00:17:27.035 --> 00:17:29.204
  • And i would always study things i was having problems with.
  • 00:17:29.271 --> 00:17:30.606
  • I was having problems with. like if i was having problems
  • 00:17:30.672 --> 00:17:31.974
  • Like if i was having problems with being patient, i would
  • 00:17:32.040 --> 00:17:33.242
  • With being patient, i would study on patience.
  • 00:17:33.308 --> 00:17:34.209
  • Study on patience. and then i would teach
  • 00:17:34.276 --> 00:17:35.677
  • And then i would teach that to my little home
  • 00:17:35.744 --> 00:17:37.112
  • That to my little home bible study that i had.
  • 00:17:37.179 --> 00:17:39.114
  • Bible study that i had. and i worked my whole day
  • 00:17:39.181 --> 00:17:41.416
  • And i worked my whole day around trying to have that
  • 00:17:41.483 --> 00:17:44.753
  • Around trying to have that time with god when my kids
  • 00:17:44.820 --> 00:17:45.988
  • Time with god when my kids took their naps.
  • 00:17:46.054 --> 00:17:47.256
  • Took their naps. and so, any mother who really
  • 00:17:47.322 --> 00:17:49.591
  • And so, any mother who really wants to spend time with god,
  • 00:17:49.658 --> 00:17:52.427
  • Wants to spend time with god, you can find a way to do it,
  • 00:17:52.494 --> 00:17:55.063
  • You can find a way to do it, if you really want to.
  • 00:17:55.130 --> 00:17:55.797
  • If you really want to. and one of the things that
  • 00:17:55.864 --> 00:17:57.232
  • And one of the things that i tell people is you'll pay
  • 00:17:57.299 --> 00:17:58.333
  • I tell people is you'll pay a babysitter to go out
  • 00:17:58.400 --> 00:17:59.468
  • A babysitter to go out to a movie.
  • 00:17:59.535 --> 00:18:00.736
  • To a movie. so how about paying
  • 00:18:00.802 --> 00:18:02.304
  • So how about paying a babysitter once in a while,
  • 00:18:02.371 --> 00:18:03.405
  • A babysitter once in a while, just to have half a day
  • 00:18:03.472 --> 00:18:05.974
  • Just to have half a day to spend with the lord?
  • 00:18:06.041 --> 00:18:07.042
  • To spend with the lord? >> ginger: yeah.
  • 00:18:07.109 --> 00:18:07.676
  • >> ginger: yeah. >> joyce: and you can't--
  • 00:18:07.743 --> 00:18:09.378
  • >> joyce: and you can't-- yeah, we've all got problems.
  • 00:18:09.444 --> 00:18:10.379
  • Yeah, we've all got problems. we've all got issues.
  • 00:18:10.445 --> 00:18:11.213
  • We've all got issues. and some people are trying
  • 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:12.614
  • And some people are trying to raise kids, and they've
  • 00:18:12.681 --> 00:18:13.582
  • To raise kids, and they've maybe got some big issues
  • 00:18:13.649 --> 00:18:14.883
  • Maybe got some big issues in their life.
  • 00:18:14.950 --> 00:18:15.984
  • In their life. and god's willing to heal you.
  • 00:18:16.051 --> 00:18:18.287
  • And god's willing to heal you. he's the god of restoration.
  • 00:18:18.353 --> 00:18:20.322
  • He's the god of restoration. but you gotta spend time
  • 00:18:20.389 --> 00:18:21.523
  • But you gotta spend time with him, hear from him,
  • 00:18:21.590 --> 00:18:23.625
  • With him, hear from him, study his word,
  • 00:18:23.692 --> 00:18:24.393
  • Study his word, know what it says.
  • 00:18:24.459 --> 00:18:25.594
  • Know what it says. and a lot of people think,
  • 00:18:25.661 --> 00:18:27.529
  • And a lot of people think, "well, i just don't
  • 00:18:27.596 --> 00:18:28.163
  • "well, i just don't have time to do that.
  • 00:18:28.230 --> 00:18:29.264
  • Have time to do that. i can't do that because
  • 00:18:29.331 --> 00:18:30.566
  • I can't do that because i've got these kids.
  • 00:18:30.632 --> 00:18:31.300
  • I've got these kids. i don't have time to get done
  • 00:18:31.366 --> 00:18:33.402
  • I don't have time to get done what i'm doing now."
  • 00:18:33.468 --> 00:18:34.136
  • What i'm doing now." but if you want to do it,
  • 00:18:34.203 --> 00:18:36.405
  • But if you want to do it, god will show you a way
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  • God will show you a way that you can do it.
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  • That you can do it. and it is important.
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  • And it is important. ginger, when i started
  • 00:18:40.976 --> 00:18:42.911
  • Ginger, when i started the ministry, i had three
  • 00:18:42.978 --> 00:18:44.112
  • The ministry, i had three teenagers and a baby.
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  • Teenagers and a baby. and so, i don't like to hear
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  • And so, i don't like to hear that, "i can't do anything
  • 00:18:49.151 --> 00:18:50.285
  • That, "i can't do anything because i've got kids."
  • 00:18:50.352 --> 00:18:51.520
  • Because i've got kids." i mean, if you want to, you can
  • 00:18:51.587 --> 00:18:53.388
  • I mean, if you want to, you can do anything that you want to.
  • 00:18:53.455 --> 00:18:55.090
  • Do anything that you want to. “i can do all things through
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  • “i can do all things through christ...who is my strength.”
  • 00:18:56.858 --> 00:18:58.560
  • Christ...who is my strength.” and if god asks you to do
  • 00:18:58.627 --> 00:18:59.595
  • And if god asks you to do something, he will make a way.
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  • Something, he will make a way. he'll provide.
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  • He'll provide. he'll give you the grace
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  • He'll give you the grace to do it, and he'll provide
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  • To do it, and he'll provide what you need to do it.
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  • What you need to do it. and you know, moms,
  • 00:19:05.767 --> 00:19:06.435
  • And you know, moms, when you make mistakes,
  • 00:19:06.501 --> 00:19:08.837
  • When you make mistakes, it's not the end of the world.
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  • It's not the end of the world. now, there are parents who
  • 00:19:10.472 --> 00:19:12.808
  • Now, there are parents who really are really bad, bad, bad
  • 00:19:12.874 --> 00:19:14.643
  • Really are really bad, bad, bad parents, and they cause
  • 00:19:14.710 --> 00:19:16.445
  • Parents, and they cause big problems with their kids.
  • 00:19:16.511 --> 00:19:18.413
  • Big problems with their kids. but most of those people
  • 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:19.815
  • But most of those people probably aren't watching
  • 00:19:19.881 --> 00:19:20.582
  • Probably aren't watching me right now.
  • 00:19:20.649 --> 00:19:21.250
  • Me right now. and even then, i believe that
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  • And even then, i believe that god can correct anything
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  • God can correct anything that needs to be corrected.
  • 00:19:27.189 --> 00:19:28.323
  • That needs to be corrected. but just, you know, single moms,
  • 00:19:28.390 --> 00:19:31.226
  • But just, you know, single moms, i think about them and,
  • 00:19:31.293 --> 00:19:32.961
  • I think about them and, you know, not maybe they're
  • 00:19:33.028 --> 00:19:34.630
  • You know, not maybe they're having to work a couple
  • 00:19:34.696 --> 00:19:35.430
  • Having to work a couple of jobs and it's hard
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  • Of jobs and it's hard and they're exhausted
  • 00:19:36.798 --> 00:19:37.833
  • And they're exhausted and you know, all i can tell
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  • And you know, all i can tell you is this too will pass.
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  • You is this too will pass. it will come to an end.
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  • It will come to an end. your kids will grow up,
  • 00:19:45.540 --> 00:19:46.842
  • Your kids will grow up, and they will leave home,
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  • And they will leave home, and they will be okay.
  • 00:19:47.943 --> 00:19:49.077
  • And they will be okay. and i know that a lot
  • 00:19:49.144 --> 00:19:50.879
  • And i know that a lot of people think, you know,
  • 00:19:50.946 --> 00:19:52.014
  • Of people think, you know, “well, that just can't happen,"
  • 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:53.682
  • “well, that just can't happen," but all things
  • 00:19:53.749 --> 00:19:54.549
  • But all things are possible with god.
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  • Are possible with god. >> ginger: i think sometimes
  • 00:19:55.584 --> 00:19:57.052
  • >> ginger: i think sometimes too, as parents,
  • 00:19:57.119 --> 00:19:59.187
  • Too, as parents, especially as moms, we feel
  • 00:19:59.254 --> 00:20:01.690
  • Especially as moms, we feel guilty if we do something
  • 00:20:01.757 --> 00:20:03.725
  • Guilty if we do something to take care of ourselves.
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  • To take care of ourselves. if we do what you say,
  • 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:06.695
  • If we do what you say, and we're spending that time
  • 00:20:06.762 --> 00:20:07.629
  • And we're spending that time in the word, but there's
  • 00:20:07.696 --> 00:20:08.797
  • In the word, but there's nothing better that we can
  • 00:20:08.864 --> 00:20:10.465
  • Nothing better that we can give our children than
  • 00:20:10.532 --> 00:20:12.000
  • Give our children than for us to be healthy
  • 00:20:12.067 --> 00:20:13.035
  • For us to be healthy and close to the lord.
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  • And close to the lord. >> joyce: right.
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  • >> joyce: right. that's very important.
  • 00:20:14.403 --> 00:20:16.038
  • That's very important. but then to do other just
  • 00:20:16.104 --> 00:20:17.072
  • But then to do other just practical things for yourself.
  • 00:20:17.139 --> 00:20:18.440
  • Practical things for yourself. you know, if just getting
  • 00:20:18.507 --> 00:20:21.143
  • You know, if just getting a pedicure once every two weeks
  • 00:20:21.209 --> 00:20:23.078
  • A pedicure once every two weeks would really help you then—
  • 00:20:23.145 --> 00:20:24.346
  • Would really help you then— >> ginger: and make you
  • 00:20:24.413 --> 00:20:25.113
  • >> ginger: and make you a better mom.
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  • A better mom. >> joyce: yeah, fine, you know,
  • 00:20:25.714 --> 00:20:26.815
  • >> joyce: yeah, fine, you know, you need to do some
  • 00:20:26.882 --> 00:20:28.016
  • You need to do some things for yourself.
  • 00:20:28.083 --> 00:20:28.884
  • Things for yourself. if you don't ever do anything
  • 00:20:28.950 --> 00:20:29.851
  • If you don't ever do anything for yourself, you end up
  • 00:20:29.918 --> 00:20:31.520
  • For yourself, you end up just feeling used.
  • 00:20:31.586 --> 00:20:32.988
  • Just feeling used. you end up just feeling like,
  • 00:20:33.055 --> 00:20:34.323
  • You end up just feeling like, everybody that comes near you
  • 00:20:34.389 --> 00:20:35.290
  • Everybody that comes near you wants something, and that
  • 00:20:35.357 --> 00:20:36.892
  • Wants something, and that there's nothing left of you
  • 00:20:36.958 --> 00:20:38.894
  • There's nothing left of you to give to them.
  • 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:39.728
  • To give to them. and you're not being selfish
  • 00:20:39.795 --> 00:20:41.029
  • And you're not being selfish if you do things for yourself.
  • 00:20:41.096 --> 00:20:42.664
  • If you do things for yourself. you're not being selfish
  • 00:20:42.731 --> 00:20:43.799
  • You're not being selfish if you get a babysitter
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  • If you get a babysitter once in a while and just
  • 00:20:45.367 --> 00:20:46.301
  • Once in a while and just go take an afternoon
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  • Go take an afternoon and walk in the park.
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  • And walk in the park. whatever you need,
  • 00:20:49.938 --> 00:20:50.939
  • Whatever you need, whatever will help you,
  • 00:20:51.006 --> 00:20:51.940
  • Whatever will help you, there's nothing wrong
  • 00:20:52.007 --> 00:20:53.675
  • There's nothing wrong with doing that.
  • 00:20:53.742 --> 00:20:54.543
  • With doing that. and i know some people,
  • 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:56.178
  • And i know some people, they don't have the money
  • 00:20:56.244 --> 00:20:57.145
  • They don't have the money to get a babysitter.
  • 00:20:57.212 --> 00:20:58.980
  • To get a babysitter. trade off with somebody.
  • 00:20:59.047 --> 00:21:00.048
  • Trade off with somebody. you know, find somebody
  • 00:21:00.115 --> 00:21:01.116
  • You know, find somebody else that's got kids and...
  • 00:21:01.183 --> 00:21:02.017
  • Else that's got kids and... >> ginger: let's help
  • 00:21:02.084 --> 00:21:02.617
  • >> ginger: let's help each other.
  • 00:21:02.684 --> 00:21:03.251
  • Each other. >> joyce: you know, help ‘em
  • 00:21:03.318 --> 00:21:04.119
  • >> joyce: you know, help ‘em and trade with each other.
  • 00:21:04.186 --> 00:21:05.821
  • And trade with each other. i just keep wanting
  • 00:21:05.887 --> 00:21:06.555
  • I just keep wanting to ask you this question.
  • 00:21:06.621 --> 00:21:07.756
  • To ask you this question. you know, i'm always the one
  • 00:21:07.823 --> 00:21:08.924
  • You know, i'm always the one that's got all the problems
  • 00:21:08.990 --> 00:21:09.858
  • That's got all the problems here on the show.
  • 00:21:09.925 --> 00:21:10.492
  • Here on the show. and so, what--can you think
  • 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:13.695
  • And so, what--can you think of something that you did
  • 00:21:13.762 --> 00:21:15.330
  • Of something that you did wrong with your kids when
  • 00:21:15.397 --> 00:21:16.131
  • Wrong with your kids when they were growing up,
  • 00:21:16.198 --> 00:21:17.165
  • They were growing up, but everything still
  • 00:21:17.232 --> 00:21:17.966
  • But everything still turned out okay?
  • 00:21:18.033 --> 00:21:19.301
  • Turned out okay? >> ginger: well, so many things.
  • 00:21:19.368 --> 00:21:21.303
  • >> ginger: well, so many things. i mean, i think the biggest
  • 00:21:21.370 --> 00:21:24.039
  • I mean, i think the biggest thing for me was, i—and
  • 00:21:24.106 --> 00:21:26.375
  • Thing for me was, i—and nobody knows how to be a mom,
  • 00:21:26.441 --> 00:21:27.609
  • Nobody knows how to be a mom, but i really had no idea
  • 00:21:27.676 --> 00:21:31.646
  • But i really had no idea how to be a mom.
  • 00:21:31.713 --> 00:21:32.848
  • How to be a mom. i felt very confident in my
  • 00:21:32.914 --> 00:21:35.016
  • I felt very confident in my life, in every other area.
  • 00:21:35.083 --> 00:21:37.085
  • Life, in every other area. but i thought, "i don't have
  • 00:21:37.152 --> 00:21:38.620
  • But i thought, "i don't have the motherhood gene.
  • 00:21:38.687 --> 00:21:39.354
  • The motherhood gene. i am not gonna know
  • 00:21:39.421 --> 00:21:40.455
  • I am not gonna know how to do this."
  • 00:21:40.522 --> 00:21:41.790
  • How to do this." and so, really, all those
  • 00:21:41.857 --> 00:21:44.126
  • And so, really, all those mistakes that i did make
  • 00:21:44.192 --> 00:21:45.327
  • Mistakes that i did make as i was trying to figure
  • 00:21:45.394 --> 00:21:46.995
  • As i was trying to figure out work-life balance,
  • 00:21:47.062 --> 00:21:48.797
  • Out work-life balance, and how to be the kind
  • 00:21:48.864 --> 00:21:50.899
  • And how to be the kind of mom that i wanted to be,
  • 00:21:50.966 --> 00:21:52.434
  • Of mom that i wanted to be, and to lead them to the lord,
  • 00:21:52.501 --> 00:21:55.170
  • And to lead them to the lord, and all these different things,
  • 00:21:55.237 --> 00:21:56.671
  • And all these different things, god just took care
  • 00:21:56.738 --> 00:21:57.773
  • God just took care of systematically.
  • 00:21:57.839 --> 00:21:58.807
  • Of systematically. >> joyce: and you have
  • 00:21:58.874 --> 00:21:59.541
  • >> joyce: and you have two great girls.
  • 00:21:59.608 --> 00:22:00.809
  • Two great girls. >> ginger: oh, they're--
  • 00:22:00.876 --> 00:22:01.476
  • >> ginger: oh, they're-- they're wonderful.
  • 00:22:01.543 --> 00:22:02.144
  • They're wonderful. they're the joy of my life.
  • 00:22:02.210 --> 00:22:03.612
  • They're the joy of my life. and their families
  • 00:22:03.678 --> 00:22:05.614
  • And their families and our families
  • 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:06.348
  • And our families we're--we have our issues.
  • 00:22:06.415 --> 00:22:07.949
  • We're--we have our issues. we all do.
  • 00:22:08.016 --> 00:22:08.750
  • We all do. everybody has their issues.
  • 00:22:08.817 --> 00:22:09.885
  • Everybody has their issues. but we're close.
  • 00:22:09.951 --> 00:22:10.786
  • But we're close. we love to be together.
  • 00:22:10.852 --> 00:22:11.653
  • We love to be together. and it really is god
  • 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:14.956
  • And it really is god answering diligent prayer.
  • 00:22:15.023 --> 00:22:16.892
  • Answering diligent prayer. and i think if nothing else,
  • 00:22:16.958 --> 00:22:18.326
  • And i think if nothing else, what i did right was really,
  • 00:22:18.393 --> 00:22:20.362
  • What i did right was really, really pray for our kids,
  • 00:22:20.429 --> 00:22:22.597
  • Really pray for our kids, for their spouses-to-be,
  • 00:22:22.664 --> 00:22:24.199
  • For their spouses-to-be, before we knew who they were,
  • 00:22:24.266 --> 00:22:25.400
  • Before we knew who they were, for their children-to-be,
  • 00:22:25.467 --> 00:22:27.102
  • For their children-to-be, long before they had any.
  • 00:22:27.169 --> 00:22:28.603
  • Long before they had any. all of those things,
  • 00:22:28.670 --> 00:22:29.604
  • All of those things, because i knew i wasn't gonna
  • 00:22:29.671 --> 00:22:31.072
  • Because i knew i wasn't gonna do everything perfectly.
  • 00:22:31.139 --> 00:22:32.374
  • Do everything perfectly. i wanted to give them into
  • 00:22:32.441 --> 00:22:33.608
  • I wanted to give them into god's hands over and over.
  • 00:22:33.675 --> 00:22:34.876
  • God's hands over and over. so i am very grateful
  • 00:22:34.943 --> 00:22:36.311
  • So i am very grateful that i did that.
  • 00:22:36.378 --> 00:22:36.945
  • That i did that. >> joyce: that's really
  • 00:22:37.012 --> 00:22:37.579
  • >> joyce: that's really a good point.
  • 00:22:37.646 --> 00:22:38.246
  • A good point. you know, pray for your
  • 00:22:38.313 --> 00:22:39.448
  • You know, pray for your children, and you'd be surprised
  • 00:22:39.514 --> 00:22:42.217
  • Children, and you'd be surprised if you pray for them,
  • 00:22:42.284 --> 00:22:43.084
  • If you pray for them, god can overcome a lot
  • 00:22:43.151 --> 00:22:44.453
  • God can overcome a lot of mistakes that you make.
  • 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.888
  • Of mistakes that you make. and once again,
  • 00:22:46.955 --> 00:22:47.956
  • And once again, god is the god of restoration
  • 00:22:48.023 --> 00:22:49.758
  • God is the god of restoration and the god of healing.
  • 00:22:49.825 --> 00:22:51.660
  • And the god of healing. and even if you make some
  • 00:22:51.726 --> 00:22:52.828
  • And even if you make some mistakes, you admit it, don't...
  • 00:22:52.894 --> 00:22:56.631
  • Mistakes, you admit it, don't... maybe the last thing
  • 00:22:56.698 --> 00:22:58.700
  • Maybe the last thing i'd like to say is,
  • 00:22:58.767 --> 00:22:59.668
  • I'd like to say is, don't let the devil push you
  • 00:22:59.734 --> 00:23:06.074
  • Don't let the devil push you into that area of trying
  • 00:23:06.141 --> 00:23:07.409
  • Into that area of trying to be a perfect parent.
  • 00:23:07.476 --> 00:23:09.978
  • To be a perfect parent. if you're a perfectionist
  • 00:23:10.045 --> 00:23:11.947
  • If you're a perfectionist and you're trying
  • 00:23:12.013 --> 00:23:12.581
  • And you're trying to be a perfect parent,
  • 00:23:12.647 --> 00:23:14.850
  • To be a perfect parent, you're gonna end up being
  • 00:23:14.916 --> 00:23:15.650
  • You're gonna end up being a worse parent, than if you
  • 00:23:15.717 --> 00:23:17.719
  • A worse parent, than if you would just lighten up
  • 00:23:17.786 --> 00:23:18.587
  • Would just lighten up a little bit, and just
  • 00:23:18.653 --> 00:23:21.156
  • A little bit, and just take it one day at a time.
  • 00:23:21.223 --> 00:23:22.591
  • Take it one day at a time. there is--the only thing
  • 00:23:22.657 --> 00:23:23.758
  • There is--the only thing perfect is jesus.
  • 00:23:23.825 --> 00:23:25.594
  • Perfect is jesus. and we're not gonna manifest
  • 00:23:25.660 --> 00:23:27.929
  • And we're not gonna manifest perfection until we're out
  • 00:23:27.996 --> 00:23:29.231
  • Perfection until we're out of these bodies and we get
  • 00:23:29.297 --> 00:23:30.398
  • Of these bodies and we get with him.
  • 00:23:30.465 --> 00:23:31.500
  • With him. and so don't put so much
  • 00:23:31.566 --> 00:23:33.168
  • And so don't put so much pressure on yourself.
  • 00:23:33.235 --> 00:23:34.970
  • Pressure on yourself. and when you do make mistakes,
  • 00:23:35.036 --> 00:23:36.838
  • And when you do make mistakes, god is big enough to cover them.
  • 00:23:36.905 --> 00:23:40.208
  • God is big enough to cover them. he's big enough to take
  • 00:23:40.275 --> 00:23:42.077
  • He's big enough to take care of it.
  • 00:23:42.143 --> 00:23:43.078
  • Care of it. don't make a mistake and then
  • 00:23:43.144 --> 00:23:45.547
  • Don't make a mistake and then spend another two weeks
  • 00:23:45.614 --> 00:23:46.815
  • Spend another two weeks feeling guilty about the mistake
  • 00:23:46.882 --> 00:23:47.816
  • Feeling guilty about the mistake you made, because that's
  • 00:23:47.883 --> 00:23:49.184
  • You made, because that's just gonna weaken you
  • 00:23:49.251 --> 00:23:49.918
  • Just gonna weaken you to make more mistakes.
  • 00:23:49.985 --> 00:23:51.319
  • To make more mistakes. and all i can tell you is,
  • 00:23:51.386 --> 00:23:54.422
  • And all i can tell you is, i've been through this
  • 00:23:54.489 --> 00:23:55.390
  • I've been through this over and over.
  • 00:23:55.457 --> 00:23:56.057
  • Over and over. i've watched my kids
  • 00:23:56.124 --> 00:23:56.892
  • I've watched my kids go through it.
  • 00:23:56.958 --> 00:23:57.325
  • Go through it. i have 12 grandchildren now,
  • 00:23:57.392 --> 00:23:58.894
  • I have 12 grandchildren now, and two great-grandchildren,
  • 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.663
  • And two great-grandchildren, and another one on the way.
  • 00:24:01.730 --> 00:24:02.831
  • And another one on the way. and so, it just all
  • 00:24:02.898 --> 00:24:05.934
  • And so, it just all turned out fine.
  • 00:24:06.001 --> 00:24:06.801
  • Turned out fine. and, i mean, i was...you
  • 00:24:06.868 --> 00:24:08.203
  • And, i mean, i was...you couldn't have been
  • 00:24:08.270 --> 00:24:08.770
  • Couldn't have been a bigger mess than me.
  • 00:24:08.837 --> 00:24:09.738
  • A bigger mess than me. and so, if god could
  • 00:24:09.804 --> 00:24:11.606
  • And so, if god could do that with me,
  • 00:24:11.673 --> 00:24:12.607
  • Do that with me, he can do it with anybody.
  • 00:24:12.674 --> 00:24:13.742
  • He can do it with anybody. >> ginger: yeah.
  • 00:24:13.808 --> 00:24:14.242
  • >> ginger: yeah. you're gonna make it.
  • 00:24:14.309 --> 00:24:15.043
  • You're gonna make it. you're gonna make it.
  • 00:24:15.110 --> 00:24:15.810
  • You're gonna make it. >> joyce: you're gonna make it.
  • 00:24:15.877 --> 00:24:16.912
  • >> joyce: you're gonna make it. >> ginger: thank you, joyce.
  • 00:24:16.978 --> 00:24:17.646
  • >> ginger: thank you, joyce. >> joyce: you're welcome.
  • 00:24:17.712 --> 00:24:18.246
  • >> [music]
  • 00:24:19.281 --> 00:24:22.884
  • >> announcer: we're all
  • 00:24:24.986 --> 00:24:25.520
  • >> announcer: we're all searching for something more,
  • 00:24:25.587 --> 00:24:27.088
  • Searching for something more, something more meaningful
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  • Something more meaningful something more significant,
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  • Something more significant, something deeper.
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  • Something deeper. believing is important,
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  • Believing is important, but truly knowing
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  • But truly knowing is a journey beyond belief.
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  • Is a journey beyond belief. if our heart is convinced,
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  • If our heart is convinced, that's when we're
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  • That's when we're willing to change.
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  • Willing to change. and truly knowing god,
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  • And truly knowing god, changes everything.
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  • >> ginger: you know,
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  • >> ginger: you know, god knows us better
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  • God knows us better than we know ourselves.
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  • Than we know ourselves. and he desires a close,
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  • And he desires a close, personal relationship
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  • Personal relationship with each of us.
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  • With each of us. when i desperately want
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  • When i desperately want more of him in my life, i ask
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  • More of him in my life, i ask him to show me what's missing.
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  • Him to show me what's missing. this gives me a chance to focus
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  • This gives me a chance to focus on him and all of the amazing
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  • On him and all of the amazing things that he does,
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  • Things that he does, giving me a better
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  • Giving me a better understanding of who he is,
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  • Understanding of who he is, his unconditional love,
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  • His unconditional love, and his character.
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  • And his character. discover the beauty
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  • Discover the beauty of god's unconditional love
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  • Of god's unconditional love with joyce's book,
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  • With joyce's book, "knowing god."
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  • "knowing god." in it she shares biblical
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  • In it she shares biblical truths that literally
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  • Truths that literally changed her life.
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  • And you'll just also love
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  • And you'll just also love how beautiful it is with
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  • How beautiful it is with pages that feature scripture,
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  • Pages that feature scripture, and practical wisdom,
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  • And practical wisdom, and insight to god's
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  • And insight to god's nature, and just
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  • Nature, and just transforming your life
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  • Transforming your life through his word.
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  • >> announcer: transform
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  • >> announcer: transform your life and deepen your
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  • Your life and deepen your relationship with god
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  • Relationship with god using the learning from
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  • Using the learning from experience package.
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  • Experience package. this offer comes with
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  • This offer comes with joyce's book, "knowing god,"
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  • Joyce's book, "knowing god," and the "my journey
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  • And the "my journey with god journal,"
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  • With god journal," a specially designed notebook
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  • A specially designed notebook for reflecting on your spiritual
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  • For reflecting on your spiritual journey and meditating
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  • Journey and meditating on god's word.
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  • On god's word. these are available
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  • >> ginger: "knowing god,"
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  • >> ginger: "knowing god," well, it changes everything.
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  • Well, it changes everything. explore the heart of god,
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  • Explore the heart of god, grow spiritually, and connect
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  • Grow spiritually, and connect with him on a new, exciting
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  • Joyce's book, "knowing god." your financial gift also
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  • Your financial gift also helps joyce meyer ministries
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  • >> announcer: let god make
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  • >> announcer: let god make a difference in your life
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  • A difference in your life today and elevate
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  • Today and elevate your relationship
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  • Your relationship with him when
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  • Enjoyed today's program.
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  • To our joyce meyer ministries partners
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  • Who make this and all we do possible,
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  • And all we do possible, including sharing
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