The author of “Mary and Herod” shares how meaningful it is that God knows us by name and calls us to Himself.
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Life Today with James Robison | Kathie Lee Gifford - Jesus Speaks Your Name | January 17, 2025
- >> god gave us goodness.
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- God gave us perfection.
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- God gave us great blessing
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- And we chose to try to be like god.
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- And we ruined it;
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- We've ruined it ever since.
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- Then we blame god for it --
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- We're doing it now.
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- Join kathie lee gifford as she explores
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- The interwoven lives of king herod
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- And mary, mother of jesus.
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- Next on life today!
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- ♪
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- Randy: welcome to life today !
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- Randy: welcome to life today ! i'm randy robison.
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- Randy: welcome to life today ! i'm randy robison. tammy is with me
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- I'm randy robison. tammy is with me and we're so excited.
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- Tammy is with me and we're so excited. we have someone that
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- I know our audience
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- I know our audience absolutely loves.
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- I know our audience absolutely loves. we're excited
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- Absolutely loves. we're excited to have her back.
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- We're excited to have her back. kathie lee gifford
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- To have her back. kathie lee gifford is with us.
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- Kathie lee gifford is with us. she has a new book called
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- Is with us. she has a new book called herod and mary .
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- She has a new book called herod and mary . that's not two people
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- Herod and mary . that's not two people you put together typically.
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- That's not two people you put together typically. what is that about?
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- You put together typically. what is that about? we're going to find out.
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- What is that about? we're going to find out. i know you're excited
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- We're going to find out. i know you're excited to talk to your neighbor.
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- I know you're excited to talk to your neighbor. tammy: yes! i found out
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- To talk to your neighbor. tammy: yes! i found out we both live in tennessee.
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- Tammy: yes! i found out we both live in tennessee. i'm in brentwood,
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- We both live in tennessee. i'm in brentwood, she is in franklin.
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- I'm in brentwood, she is in franklin. i read the entire book, randy.
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- She is in franklin. i read the entire book, randy. i walked away learning things
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- I read the entire book, randy. i walked away learning things i didn't even know
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- I walked away learning things i didn't even know i needed to know.
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- I didn't even know i needed to know. but that's what's so great
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- I needed to know. but that's what's so great about this book.
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- But that's what's so great about this book. so much great stuff!
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- Randy: well, let's welcome
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- Randy: well, let's welcome kathie lee.
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- Randy: well, let's welcome kathie lee. kathie, good to see you!
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- Kathie lee. kathie, good to see you! kathie: well, tammy,
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- Kathie, good to see you! kathie: well, tammy, nice to meet you.
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- Kathie: well, tammy, nice to meet you. i've met randy before
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- Nice to meet you. i've met randy before but i want to thank you.
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- I've met randy before but i want to thank you. we put a lot of work into
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- But i want to thank you. we put a lot of work into the books that we wrote --
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- We put a lot of work into the books that we wrote -- well, i and other people.
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- The books that we wrote -- well, i and other people. we're very, very careful
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- Well, i and other people. we're very, very careful to do the research
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- We're very, very careful to do the research and just be faithful.
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- Tammy: what i loved
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- Tammy: what i loved about it is your depth,
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- Tammy: what i loved about it is your depth, the knowledge of the word,
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- About it is your depth, the knowledge of the word, your pursuit of truth,
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- The knowledge of the word, your pursuit of truth, and things that i thought
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- Your pursuit of truth, and things that i thought that i knew,
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- And things that i thought that i knew, even about herod,
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- That i knew, even about herod, i just didn't know.
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- Even about herod, i just didn't know. why was it so important
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- I just didn't know. why was it so important for you to write this book
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- Why was it so important for you to write this book about herod and mary?
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- For you to write this book about herod and mary? kathie: it is a series
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- About herod and mary? kathie: it is a series of new books
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- Kathie: it is a series of new books and we're hoping that
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- Of new books and we're hoping that it will do well enough
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- And we're hoping that it will do well enough we can do maybe ten of them.
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- It will do well enough we can do maybe ten of them. everybody is talking so much
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- We can do maybe ten of them. everybody is talking so much about the evil in the world;
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- Everybody is talking so much about the evil in the world; there is so much more evil
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- About the evil in the world; there is so much more evil in the world.
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- There is so much more evil in the world. actually, evil has been
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- In the world. actually, evil has been in the world since
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- Actually, evil has been in the world since the garden of eden.
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- In the world since the garden of eden. it just has been.
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- The garden of eden. it just has been. there was no cable news
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- It just has been. there was no cable news network then.
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- There was no cable news network then. but what's also been
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- Network then. but what's also been ancient evil,
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- But what's also been ancient evil, what's always been true
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- Ancient evil, what's always been true as well is there's been
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- What's always been true as well is there's been living hope right next to it
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- As well is there's been living hope right next to it -- living hope.
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- Living hope right next to it -- living hope. so that's the series name,
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- -- living hope. so that's the series name, "ancient evil, living hope."
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- So that's the series name, "ancient evil, living hope." the first one is about herod,
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- "ancient evil, living hope." the first one is about herod, who called himself
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- The first one is about herod, who called himself "the king of the jews."
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- Who called himself "the king of the jews." he wasn't even a jew.
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- "the king of the jews." he wasn't even a jew. the jews hated him.
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- He wasn't even a jew. the jews hated him. and then "living hope"
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- The jews hated him. and then "living hope" is mary because just at
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- And then "living hope" is mary because just at the time, as you know because
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- Is mary because just at the time, as you know because you've read the book,
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- The time, as you know because you've read the book, just as herod's
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- You've read the book, just as herod's unbelievable evil life
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- Just as herod's unbelievable evil life was coming to an end,
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- Unbelievable evil life was coming to an end, he was just --
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- Was coming to an end, he was just -- he was going around his palace
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- He was just -- he was going around his palace in jericho going,
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- He was going around his palace in jericho going, mariamne! mariamne!"
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- In jericho going, mariamne! mariamne!" the only woman he had
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- Mariamne! mariamne!" the only woman he had ever truly loved
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- The only woman he had ever truly loved in his whole life
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- Ever truly loved in his whole life and he had murdered her.
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- In his whole life and he had murdered her. he murdered almost everybody
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- And he had murdered her. he murdered almost everybody in his family,
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- He murdered almost everybody in his family, and anybody that was
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- In his family, and anybody that was his enemy, politically.
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- And anybody that was his enemy, politically. i didn't know that about him.
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- His enemy, politically. i didn't know that about him. and then juxtapose that
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- I didn't know that about him. and then juxtapose that with the birth of mary,
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- And then juxtapose that with the birth of mary, this beautiful, beautiful,
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- With the birth of mary, this beautiful, beautiful, elegant, godly, pure woman
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- This beautiful, beautiful, elegant, godly, pure woman going down to give birth
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- Elegant, godly, pure woman going down to give birth to the messiah.
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- Going down to give birth to the messiah. there is no greater honor
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- To the messiah. there is no greater honor anybody has ever been given
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- There is no greater honor anybody has ever been given in all of history
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- Anybody has ever been given in all of history than was given to mary,
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- In all of history than was given to mary, to bring the messiah
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- Than was given to mary, to bring the messiah into the world.
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- To bring the messiah into the world. and what did she say?
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- Into the world. and what did she say? "let it be unto me
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- And what did she say? "let it be unto me as you have said."
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- "let it be unto me as you have said." that's such a message
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- As you have said." that's such a message for all of us today in life.
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- That's such a message for all of us today in life. because the lord is asking
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- For all of us today in life. because the lord is asking something of us right now,
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- Because the lord is asking something of us right now, too, every one of us who
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- Something of us right now, too, every one of us who calls ourselves believers.
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- Too, every one of us who calls ourselves believers. i want to be able to say
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- Calls ourselves believers. i want to be able to say every single day
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- I want to be able to say every single day what mary said,
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- Every single day what mary said, "let it be unto me,
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- What mary said, "let it be unto me, lord as you say."
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- "let it be unto me, lord as you say." so anyway, i love the idea
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- Lord as you say." so anyway, i love the idea and it truly was my son's idea
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- So anyway, i love the idea and it truly was my son's idea of mom living --
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- And it truly was my son's idea of mom living -- when i went to israel
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- Of mom living -- when i went to israel and learned about herod,
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- When i went to israel and learned about herod, i'd only known a few
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- And learned about herod, i'd only known a few little things about him
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- I'd only known a few little things about him from the scriptures.
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- Little things about him from the scriptures. there is very little.
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- From the scriptures. there is very little. but when i got there
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- There is very little. but when i got there and i started studying,
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- But when i got there and i started studying, i said, oh my gosh.
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- And i started studying, i said, oh my gosh. if jesus is the greatest story
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- I said, oh my gosh. if jesus is the greatest story ever told, which we all know
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- If jesus is the greatest story ever told, which we all know he is, then herod is
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- Randy: kathie lee, it is easy
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- Randy: kathie lee, it is easy for us to just curse
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- For us to just curse the darkness but jesus
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- The darkness but jesus called himself the light
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- Called himself the light of the world.
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- This evil we have to hold up
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- This evil we have to hold up the light as you know.
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- This evil we have to hold up the light as you know. what is it about mary
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- The light as you know. what is it about mary that you connect with
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- What is it about mary that you connect with that touches you so deeply?
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- That you connect with that touches you so deeply? because obviously,
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- That touches you so deeply? because obviously, you feel some sort of
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- Because obviously, you feel some sort of connection there.
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- You feel some sort of connection there. kathie: well, i think
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- Connection there. kathie: well, i think everybody feels
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- She was probably about 13
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- She was probably about 13 or 14 years old when
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- Or 14 years old when the holy spirit came upon her.
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- Jesus into my heart
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- Jesus into my heart in a movie theater
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- Jesus into my heart in a movie theater in annapolis, maryland,
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- In a movie theater in annapolis, maryland, watching a movie that
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- In annapolis, maryland, watching a movie that billy graham's organization
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- Watching a movie that billy graham's organization had put out called
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- Billy graham's organization had put out called "the restless ones."
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- Had put out called "the restless ones." and i knew that jesus
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- "the restless ones." and i knew that jesus spoke so clearly to me.
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- And i knew that jesus spoke so clearly to me. said, "kathie, i love you.
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- Spoke so clearly to me. said, "kathie, i love you. i love you.
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- Said, "kathie, i love you. i love you. and if you will trust me,
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- I love you. and if you will trust me, i will make something
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- And if you will trust me, i will make something beautiful out of your life."
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- I will make something beautiful out of your life." so it is the same thing.
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- Beautiful out of your life." so it is the same thing. the angel came to mary
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- So it is the same thing. the angel came to mary and said if you will
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- The angel came to mary and said if you will trust jesus,
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- And said if you will trust jesus, if you will trust god
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- Trust jesus, if you will trust god he will make something
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- If you will trust god he will make something beautiful and magnificent --
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- He will make something beautiful and magnificent -- the magnificat,
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- Beautiful and magnificent -- the magnificat, that's what she wrote,
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- The magnificat, that's what she wrote, out of your life.
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- That's what she wrote, out of your life. i think as a young woman,
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- Out of your life. i think as a young woman, i just always related
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- I think as a young woman, i just always related to the fact that --
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- I just always related to the fact that -- what would i have said
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- To the fact that -- what would i have said to the angel?
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- What would i have said to the angel? what would my response
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- To the angel? what would my response have been?
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- What would my response have been? i'd like to think i would
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- Have been? i'd like to think i would say what mary said,
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- I'd like to think i would say what mary said, "how could this be?"
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- Say what mary said, "how could this be?" how could it be?
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- "how could this be?" how could it be? she was a virgin;
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- How could it be? she was a virgin; she had never ever
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- I was too when
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- I was too when i was that age.
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- I was that age. there is an innocence
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- There is an innocence about you.
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- About you. you don't know
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- You don't know what that's all about.
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- What that's all about. you just know that god
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- A woman who trusts him.
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- A woman who trusts him. look at women who later
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- A woman who trusts him. look at women who later in life after living
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- Look at women who later in life after living very, very hard lives,
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- In life after living very, very hard lives, mary magdalene, seven demons,
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- Very, very hard lives, mary magdalene, seven demons, all the prostitutes,
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- Mary magdalene, seven demons, all the prostitutes, all these women certainly
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- All the prostitutes, all these women certainly were not virgins but
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- All these women certainly were not virgins but the beauty of their story
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- Were not virgins but the beauty of their story is that they met jesus,
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- The beauty of their story is that they met jesus, and jesus saw them as pure.
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- Is that they met jesus, and jesus saw them as pure. jesus saw them
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- And jesus saw them as pure. jesus saw them as wrapped in a robe
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- Jesus saw them as wrapped in a robe of righteousness.
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- As wrapped in a robe of righteousness. he saw them as beautiful,
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- Of righteousness. he saw them as beautiful, beautiful creations
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- He saw them as beautiful, beautiful creations of father god.
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- Beautiful creations of father god. and that's why women respond
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- Of father god. and that's why women respond to jesus like they did.
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- And that's why women respond to jesus like they did. women had never been
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- To jesus like they did. women had never been treated equally in the culture
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- Women had never been treated equally in the culture and they still aren't
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- Treated equally in the culture and they still aren't all around the world.
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- And they still aren't all around the world. but back then,
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- All around the world. but back then, they were just considered
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- But back then, they were just considered like maybe a third,
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- They were just considered like maybe a third, maybe two-thirds of a man,
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- Like maybe a third, maybe two-thirds of a man, dependent on where
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- Maybe two-thirds of a man, dependent on where they live.
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- Dependent on where they live. they were never considered
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- They live. they were never considered full and valuable creatures
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- They were never considered full and valuable creatures made in the image of god
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- Full and valuable creatures made in the image of god at all.
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- Made in the image of god at all. and here comes jesus,
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- At all. and here comes jesus, here comes jesus
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- And here comes jesus, here comes jesus and he knows their names.
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- Here comes jesus and he knows their names. don't you love that
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- And he knows their names. don't you love that the first person he saw
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- Don't you love that the first person he saw when he came from the tomb,
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- The first person he saw when he came from the tomb, and mary magdalene didn't
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- When he came from the tomb, and mary magdalene didn't recognize him at the tomb
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- And mary magdalene didn't recognize him at the tomb because it was early?
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- Recognize him at the tomb because it was early? she said, "where have you
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- Because it was early? she said, "where have you taken my lord?
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- She said, "where have you taken my lord? tell me where
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- Taken my lord? tell me where you've taken him.
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- Tell me where you've taken him. i will come and get him."
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- You've taken him. i will come and get him." and all he had to do,
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- I will come and get him." and all he had to do, you guys, i think this is
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- And all he had to do, you guys, i think this is my favorite scripture
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- You guys, i think this is my favorite scripture in the whole bible.
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- My favorite scripture in the whole bible. she said, "tell me
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- In the whole bible. she said, "tell me where my lord is and i will
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- And he said, "mary!"
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- And he said, "mary!" he said her name.
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- He said her name. instantly, she knew
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- Instantly, she knew it was jesus
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- It was jesus because she had heard him
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- In such love.
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- In such love. this woman probably had
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- In such love. this woman probably had been seduced by 100 men,
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- This woman probably had been seduced by 100 men, a thousand men, who knows?
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- Been seduced by 100 men, a thousand men, who knows? all her life.
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- A thousand men, who knows? all her life. demons tormenting her.
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- All her life. demons tormenting her. and jesus just says,
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- Demons tormenting her. and jesus just says, "mary."
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- And jesus just says, "mary." it is the most beautiful
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- "mary." it is the most beautiful scripture in the whole bible
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- It is the most beautiful scripture in the whole bible to me because
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- Scripture in the whole bible to me because that's what he says to me
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- To me because that's what he says to me when i'm hurting.
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- That's what he says to me when i'm hurting. that's what he says to you,
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- When i'm hurting. that's what he says to you, randy and tammy.
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- That's what he says to you, randy and tammy. that's what he says
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- Randy and tammy. that's what he says to all of us.
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- That's what he says to all of us. he knows us by name.
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- To all of us. he knows us by name. tammy: yes!
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- He knows us by name. tammy: yes! i think that's
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- Kathie lee, to me too.
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- Kathie lee, to me too. when you talk i can feel
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- When you talk i can feel the same emotion because
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- The same emotion because i think no matter what
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- I think no matter what i've gone through in life,
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- That my life matters,
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- That my life matters, what i've gone through,
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- That my life matters, what i've gone through, the details of my life,
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- What i've gone through, the details of my life, the good and the bad,
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- The details of my life, the good and the bad, the ups and the down,
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- The good and the bad, the ups and the down, i'm never abandoned,
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- That god is walking
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- That god is walking everything out with me,
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- That god is walking everything out with me, i think is the greatest gift
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- Everything out with me, i think is the greatest gift to think that you could
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- I think is the greatest gift to think that you could hear the voice of god.
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- To think that you could hear the voice of god. kathie: he is a personal god.
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- Hear the voice of god. kathie: he is a personal god. he is a personal god.
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- Kathie: he is a personal god. he is a personal god. tammy: yes, he is.
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- He is a personal god. tammy: yes, he is. kathie: people don't know that
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- Tammy: yes, he is. kathie: people don't know that and it is just --
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- Kathie: people don't know that and it is just -- it breaks my heart.
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- I try to spend my whole life
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- I try to spend my whole life in -- my ministry has been
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- I try to spend my whole life in -- my ministry has been in the entertainment world
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- In -- my ministry has been in the entertainment world but it was always
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- In the entertainment world but it was always my mission field.
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- But it was always my mission field. my mission was always
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- My mission field. my mission was always to tell people
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- My mission was always to tell people that god loves them.
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- To tell people that god loves them. entertain them, make them
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- That god loves them. entertain them, make them laugh, you can be bawdy,
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- Entertain them, make them laugh, you can be bawdy, you can be silly,
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- Laugh, you can be bawdy, you can be silly, you can be all these things
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- You can be silly, you can be all these things but make sure people know
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- You can be all these things but make sure people know that i love them, kathie.
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- But make sure people know that i love them, kathie. nothing else matters,
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- That i love them, kathie. nothing else matters, you guys.
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- Randy: one of the questions
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- Randy: one of the questions that people ask is
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- That people ask is if god is a good god
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- If god is a good god how could he allow such evil
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- How could he allow such evil in our world?
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- The evil with hope.
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- The evil with hope. what do you see
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- The evil with hope. what do you see and what do you say to those
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- What do you see and what do you say to those who look around the world
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- And what do you say to those who look around the world today and think,
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- Who look around the world today and think, where is god?
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- Today and think, where is god? if god is here
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- Where is god? if god is here where is he?
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- If god is here where is he? kathie: i understand
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- Where is he? kathie: i understand the question and i've asked it
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- Kathie: i understand the question and i've asked it myself just recently.
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- The question and i've asked it myself just recently. believe me, it never gets old.
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- Myself just recently. believe me, it never gets old. [laughing]
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- Believe me, it never gets old. [laughing] here's the thing.
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- [laughing] here's the thing. god never wanted us
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- Here's the thing. god never wanted us to know evil in the world.
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- He created perfection for us
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- He created perfection for us and put us there to love
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- And put us there to love each other and to have
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- Each other and to have communication with him.
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- Communication with him. he wanted to walk with us
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- He wanted to walk with us in the garden.
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- In the garden. he wanted to see what
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- He wanted to see what we were going to build.
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- We were going to build. he wanted to see what
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- He wanted to see what we were going to name
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- We were going to name the animals.
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- The animals. he wanted community with us.
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- He wanted community with us. we're the ones that created
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- We're the ones that created the evil that's
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- The evil that's in the world today.
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- In the world today. don't blame it on god.
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- Don't blame it on god. gave us perfection
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- It is our fault.
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- It is our fault. it is our fault individually
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- It is our fault. it is our fault individually and it is our fault
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- It is our fault individually and it is our fault collectively.
- 00:11:44.894 --> 00:11:46.028
- And it is our fault collectively. and when people blame god
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- Collectively. and when people blame god i just go, what did
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- And when people blame god i just go, what did god ever do to you?
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- I just go, what did god ever do to you? no! uh-uh.
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- God ever do to you? no! uh-uh. i will not let anybody
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- No! uh-uh. i will not let anybody ever get away with that.
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- I will not let anybody ever get away with that. that's so easy so you can say
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- Ever get away with that. that's so easy so you can say i don't believe in god
- 00:11:58.007 --> 00:11:59.175
- That's so easy so you can say i don't believe in god because he would do that.
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- I don't believe in god because he would do that. no, he didn't do that.
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- Because he would do that. no, he didn't do that. we did.
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- No, he didn't do that. we did. randy: and he went through
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- We did. randy: and he went through extraordinary lengths
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- Randy: and he went through extraordinary lengths to bring salvation to us.
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- Extraordinary lengths to bring salvation to us. one thing i appreciate, and
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- To bring salvation to us. one thing i appreciate, and really love about your work,
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- One thing i appreciate, and really love about your work, the rabbinic learning,
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- Really love about your work, the rabbinic learning, the context, the place,
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- The rabbinic learning, the context, the place, and the culture, it was
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- The context, the place, and the culture, it was an amazing thing to see
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- And the culture, it was an amazing thing to see the setup for christ
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- An amazing thing to see the setup for christ in the way that even rome,
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- The setup for christ in the way that even rome, which was awful,
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- In the way that even rome, which was awful, god was able to turn that
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- Which was awful, god was able to turn that for good to use it to pave
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- God was able to turn that for good to use it to pave the way for christ,
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- For good to use it to pave the way for christ, and then for christianity
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- The way for christ, and then for christianity to go forth.
- 00:12:34.210 --> 00:12:35.311
- And then for christianity to go forth. what do you say when
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- To go forth. what do you say when you look at rome in sort of
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- What do you say when you look at rome in sort of its impact on the gospel?
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- You look at rome in sort of its impact on the gospel? kathie: well, because
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- Its impact on the gospel? kathie: well, because rome was this center of
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- Kathie: well, because rome was this center of the universe to humankind
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- Rome was this center of the universe to humankind at the time, but it wasn't
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- The universe to humankind at the time, but it wasn't the center of god's universe.
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- At the time, but it wasn't the center of god's universe. i have always been
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- The center of god's universe. i have always been fascinated by history.
- 00:12:52.928 --> 00:12:54.430
- I have always been fascinated by history. i love history and when
- 00:12:54.496 --> 00:12:55.865
- Fascinated by history. i love history and when i get down into the weeds
- 00:12:55.931 --> 00:12:59.168
- I love history and when i get down into the weeds of history with herod,
- 00:12:59.235 --> 00:13:01.704
- I get down into the weeds of history with herod, the next book is going
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- Of history with herod, the next book is going to be about nero.
- 00:13:03.739 --> 00:13:09.745
- The next book is going to be about nero. basically, the story is
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- To be about nero. basically, the story is nothing has changed.
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- Basically, the story is nothing has changed. god gave us goodness.
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- Nothing has changed. god gave us goodness. god gave us perfection.
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- God gave us goodness. god gave us perfection. god gave us great blessings
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- God gave us perfection. god gave us great blessings and we chose to try
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- God gave us great blessings and we chose to try to be like god.
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- And we chose to try to be like god. and we ruined it;
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- To be like god. and we ruined it; we've ruined it ever since,
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- And we ruined it; we've ruined it ever since, and then we blame god for it.
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- We've ruined it ever since, and then we blame god for it. we're doing it now.
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- And then we blame god for it. we're doing it now. we're doing it now.
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- We're doing it now. we're doing it now. so rome is no different
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- We're doing it now. so rome is no different than america is today.
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- So rome is no different than america is today. we've got everybody
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- Than america is today. we've got everybody all over the world
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- We've got everybody all over the world and none of them,
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- All over the world and none of them, none of them know jesus,
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- And none of them, none of them know jesus, none of them know god
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- None of them know jesus, none of them know god and they're all trying
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- None of them know god and they're all trying to be god.
- 00:13:45.648 --> 00:13:46.982
- And they're all trying to be god. all of them.
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- To be god. all of them. and they can't be
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- All of them. and they can't be and they never will be.
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- And they can't be and they never will be. the point of our book
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- And they never will be. the point of our book is ancient evil is the same
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- The point of our book is ancient evil is the same as present-day evil.
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- Is ancient evil is the same as present-day evil. it's there.
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- As present-day evil. it's there. but what's the most
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- It's there. but what's the most exciting thing is that --
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- But what's the most exciting thing is that -- but living hope --
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- Exciting thing is that -- but living hope -- our living hope.
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- But living hope -- our living hope. jesus said, "i am the way,
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- Our living hope. jesus said, "i am the way, the truth, and the life.
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- Jesus said, "i am the way, the truth, and the life. no one comes to the father
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- The truth, and the life. no one comes to the father except through me."
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- No one comes to the father except through me." i know a lot of my people,
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- Except through me." i know a lot of my people, my friends who are not
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- I know a lot of my people, my friends who are not believers will say,
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- My friends who are not believers will say, "well, that's so intolerant!
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- Believers will say, "well, that's so intolerant! what do you mean?"
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- "well, that's so intolerant! what do you mean?" people don't understand
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- What do you mean?" people don't understand that when jesus said that,
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- People don't understand that when jesus said that, that's the best news
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- That when jesus said that, that's the best news in the whole world.
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- That's the best news in the whole world. if you're going to have
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- In the whole world. if you're going to have the one person who is there
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- If you're going to have the one person who is there to make sure you get
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- The one person who is there to make sure you get into paradise, okay,
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- If it is jesus,
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- If it is jesus, he is the only one out of
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- He is the only one out of all these so-called gods
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- All these so-called gods and religions
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- And religions and everything else,
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- And everything else, he's the only one who gave
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- Suffered the most
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- Suffered the most agonizing death
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- Suffered the most agonizing death you could have at that time,
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- Agonizing death you could have at that time, was crucifixion.
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- You could have at that time, was crucifixion. and people don't even know,
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- Was crucifixion. and people don't even know, you learn from my book
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- And people don't even know, you learn from my book that crucifixion,
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- You learn from my book that crucifixion, back in the times of jesus,
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- That crucifixion, back in the times of jesus, was not done on a hill
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- Back in the times of jesus, was not done on a hill where you saw some people
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- Was not done on a hill where you saw some people hanging from crosses.
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- Where you saw some people hanging from crosses. no, it was at eye level;
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- Hanging from crosses. no, it was at eye level; eye level on the road
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- No, it was at eye level; eye level on the road where everybody could see
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- Eye level on the road where everybody could see how you were suffering.
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- Where everybody could see how you were suffering. and you were naked;
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- How you were suffering. and you were naked; you didn't have the thing
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- And you were naked; you didn't have the thing around you that you see
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- You didn't have the thing around you that you see in pictures.
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- Around you that you see in pictures. no, you were stark naked
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- In pictures. no, you were stark naked so you were shamed
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- No, you were stark naked so you were shamed to begin with, and then
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- So you were shamed to begin with, and then you were right here
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- To begin with, and then you were right here so that people could look
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- You were right here so that people could look at your suffering.
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- So that people could look at your suffering. you could basically
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- At your suffering. you could basically tell them by your suffering,
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- You could basically tell them by your suffering, don't mess with rome.
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- Tell them by your suffering, don't mess with rome. this is what
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- Tammy: can i ask you
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- Tammy: can i ask you something?
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- Something? okay, i read your book
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- Okay, i read your book and i have my own takeaway,
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- And i have my own takeaway, which was what
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- Which was what you talked about.
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- I'm so glad i read it, truly.
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- I'm so glad i read it, truly. i got through chapters
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- I'm so glad i read it, truly. i got through chapters one, two, and three
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- I got through chapters one, two, and three and i'm telling you, i had
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- One, two, and three and i'm telling you, i had to look at siri and talk
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- And i'm telling you, i had to look at siri and talk into my phone so many times
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- To look at siri and talk into my phone so many times and say, "pronounce this word
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- Into my phone so many times and say, "pronounce this word for me."
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- And say, "pronounce this word for me." or "tell me
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- For me." or "tell me where this place is."
- 00:15:52.307 --> 00:15:53.475
- Or "tell me where this place is." there was so much history
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- Where this place is." there was so much history there that i felt like
- 00:15:54.710 --> 00:15:55.844
- There was so much history there that i felt like i was learning along the way.
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- There that i felt like i was learning along the way. so by chapter four,
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- I was learning along the way. so by chapter four, i was all in.
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- So by chapter four, i was all in. and so i think about
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- I was all in. and so i think about when people were passing
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- And so i think about when people were passing by this book,
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- When people were passing by this book, looking at herod and mary ,
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- By this book, looking at herod and mary , and they're contemplating
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- Looking at herod and mary , and they're contemplating whether or not they want
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- And they're contemplating whether or not they want to read this book,
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- Whether or not they want to read this book, what do you hope that
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- To read this book, what do you hope that readers will take away when
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- What do you hope that readers will take away when they turn that last page?
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- Readers will take away when they turn that last page? kathie: well, i was doing
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- They turn that last page? kathie: well, i was doing maybe an audio version
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- Kathie: well, i was doing maybe an audio version of the book a couple of
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- Maybe an audio version of the book a couple of weeks ago and when i got
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- Of the book a couple of weeks ago and when i got to the end of it,
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- Weeks ago and when i got to the end of it, i was sobbing --
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- To the end of it, i was sobbing -- sobbing, sobbing.
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- I was sobbing -- sobbing, sobbing. you know the scene
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- Sobbing, sobbing. you know the scene i'm talking about.
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- You know the scene i'm talking about. and i just went --
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- I'm talking about. and i just went -- i couldn't get through it.
- 00:16:30.012 --> 00:16:30.979
- And i just went -- i couldn't get through it. i could not get through it.
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- I couldn't get through it. i could not get through it. it took me a long time.
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- I could not get through it. it took me a long time. i remember thinking,
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- It took me a long time. i remember thinking, jesus, i hope
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- I remember thinking, jesus, i hope that when people get
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- Jesus, i hope that when people get to the end of this book
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- That when people get to the end of this book they will have the hope.
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- To the end of this book they will have the hope. they will have the hope
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- They will have the hope. they will have the hope that the man on the cross
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- They will have the hope that the man on the cross who had been crucified;
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- That the man on the cross who had been crucified; it ends with a scene
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- Who had been crucified; it ends with a scene between mary
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- It ends with a scene between mary and somebody being crucified.
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- Between mary and somebody being crucified. mary was coming back
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- And somebody being crucified. mary was coming back from egypt when herod died,
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- Mary was coming back from egypt when herod died, this horrible death
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- From egypt when herod died, this horrible death that herod deserved.
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- This horrible death that herod deserved. jesus did not deserve
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- That herod deserved. jesus did not deserve the death he died from.
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- Jesus did not deserve the death he died from. but mary has an interaction
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- The death he died from. but mary has an interaction with somebody who is
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- But mary has an interaction with somebody who is right like this to her.
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- With somebody who is right like this to her. i can't tell the end
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- Right like this to her. i can't tell the end because she feels jesus
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- I can't tell the end because she feels jesus stirring under her cloak
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- Because she feels jesus stirring under her cloak because they're going
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- Stirring under her cloak because they're going back to nazareth.
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- Because they're going back to nazareth. the same angel had come
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- Back to nazareth. the same angel had come and said, "it is safe.
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- The same angel had come and said, "it is safe. the men who are trying
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- And said, "it is safe. the men who are trying to kill her are dead.
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- The men who are trying to kill her are dead. go! go home."
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- To kill her are dead. go! go home." you know the scene
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- Go! go home." you know the scene i'm talking about.
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- You know the scene i'm talking about. and so the ending of it
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- I'm talking about. and so the ending of it is so profound.
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- And so the ending of it is so profound. that's what i want everybody
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- Is so profound. that's what i want everybody to get to.
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- That's what i want everybody to get to. get to the end of it
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- To get to. get to the end of it because you will realize
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- Get to the end of it because you will realize if there's hope for
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- Because you will realize if there's hope for that man, hanging on a cross
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- If there's hope for that man, hanging on a cross dying an agonizing death,
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- That man, hanging on a cross dying an agonizing death, if there is hope for him,
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- Dying an agonizing death, if there is hope for him, there is hope for anybody.
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- If there is hope for him, there is hope for anybody. randy: we want to put
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- There is hope for anybody. randy: we want to put this book in your hands
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- Randy: we want to put this book in your hands if you'd like it,
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- This book in your hands if you'd like it, herod and mary .
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- If you'd like it, herod and mary . we will tell you how
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- Herod and mary . we will tell you how to get that when you support
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- We will tell you how to get that when you support our outreach today.
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- To get that when you support our outreach today. but i have to say
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- Our outreach today. but i have to say real quickly.
- 00:18:04.106 --> 00:18:05.207
- But i have to say real quickly. if you don't know this christ
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- Real quickly. if you don't know this christ that we're talking about,
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- We have a telephone number,
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- We have a telephone number, we're going to put it
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- We're going to put it on the screen here,
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- On the screen here, where you can call
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- Where you can call and talk to somebody
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- And talk to somebody and they will introduce you
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- And they will introduce you to our living hope,
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- To our living hope, as kathie lee calls it.
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- As kathie lee calls it. because christ is the hope,
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- Because christ is the hope, wherever you're at.
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- Wherever you're at. whatever evil
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- Whatever evil you have suffered.
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- You have suffered. whatever difficulty
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- Whatever difficulty you're facing, you need
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- You're facing, you need to know this living hope.
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- To know this living hope. so if you don't know
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- So if you don't know christ as your savior,
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- Christ as your savior, or if you just need
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- Or if you just need some encouragement,
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- We want to pray with you.
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- We want to pray with you. now we're going to show you
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- We want to pray with you. now we're going to show you something, a situation,
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- Where people are
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- Where people are in desperate hope.
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- In desperate hope. and we can be the answer
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- And we can be the answer in that situation.
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- In that situation. tammy: we talk a lot
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- Tammy: we talk a lot about the children
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- About the children and how vital it is
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- And how vital it is to reach them,
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- To reach them, precious little bodies
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- Precious little bodies can't process this kind
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- Can't process this kind of dirty, unclean,
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- Of dirty, unclean, contaminated water.
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- Contaminated water. there is a need right now
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- There is a need right now in front of us today
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- In front of us today and it is urgent
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- And it is urgent for these children
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- For these children and for their parents
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- And for their parents and for hundreds of thousands
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- And for hundreds of thousands just like them.
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- Just like them. randy: every time any of them
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- Randy: every time any of them takes a drink of water
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- Takes a drink of water they're gambling
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- They're gambling with their lives.
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- With their lives. some of them,
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- Some of them, they try to filter it.
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- They try to filter it. they are doing
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- They are doing all that they can.
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- All that they can. that's the bottom line.
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- That's the bottom line. you need to know that.
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- You need to know that. these people are doing
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- These people are doing all they can to not die
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- All they can to not die from the water.
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- From the water. but it's not going to --
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- But it's not going to -- it just doesn't work.
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- It just doesn't work. i want us to do all
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- I want us to do all that we can to stop
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- That we can to stop the death cycle.
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- The death cycle. $4800 is the average cost;
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- $4800 is the average cost; that will drill one well.
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- That will drill one well. listen, if you can drill
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- Listen, if you can drill one well today, maybe two,
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- One well today, maybe two, maybe three, do it!
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- Maybe three, do it! you will be giving water
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- You will be giving water with each well to an average
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- With each well to an average of 1,000 people.
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- Of 1,000 people. if you can't drill
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- If you can't drill a whole well,
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- A whole well, i completely understand.
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- I completely understand. that's why you can come
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- That's why you can come together with others
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- Together with others and give $144 for 30 people,
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- And give $144 for 30 people, and $48 for 10 people.
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- And $48 for 10 people. it only works when
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- It only works when we come together.
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- We come together. tammy, you and i,
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- Tammy, you and i, the viewers,
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- The viewers, the missionaries in the field,
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- The missionaries in the field, we have to come together
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- We have to come together and stop the death.
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- Will you do your part?
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- Will you go online,
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- Go to the phone, and make
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- The best gift you can?
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- We can do more.
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- We can save lives!
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- You and i together can
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- Give them water for life.
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- Every day, thousands of lives are lost
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- To waterborne disease,
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- And nearly half of those are children
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- Under the age of five.
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- Through mission: water for life
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- You can give mothers hope and children a future
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- As we provide clean, life-giving water
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- For thousands of children and their families
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- Before it's too late.
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- With your gift today, you can help drill
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- And establish 350 water wells this year.
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- Your gift of $24
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- Will help provide clean water for five children.
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- A gift of $48 will help provide for ten.
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- And $144 will help provide
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- Life-giving water for 30 people
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- For a lifetime.
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- With a gift of any amount,
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- We'll send you dr. don colbert's new book
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- Spiritual health zone.
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- Discover the key to living in divine health
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- As you find a roadmap
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- To adding joy, peace, and years to your life.
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- With your gift of $100 or more,
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- You may request the
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- "he restores my soul" candle set.
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- This decorative candle and match set
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- Will inspire you to remember
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- The restoring presence of jesus,
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- The true light of the world.
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- Finally, please consider a gift of $1200
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- To help provide water for 250 people
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- Or a gift of $4800
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- To help sponsor a complete well,
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- And request our new bronze sculpture,
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- "lion of judah"
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- Inspired by revelation 5:5.
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- Please call, write, or make your gift online today!
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- Randy: you can give
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- Randy: you can give that gift of hope,
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- Randy: you can give that gift of hope, living hope today.
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- That gift of hope, living hope today. i hope you'll go online
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- Living hope today. i hope you'll go online or go to the phone and make
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- I hope you'll go online or go to the phone and make the best gift you can.
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- Or go to the phone and make the best gift you can. please be sure to request
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- The best gift you can. please be sure to request herod and mary
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- Please be sure to request herod and mary if you would like that.
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- Herod and mary if you would like that. kathie lee, thank you so much
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- If you would like that. kathie lee, thank you so much for being with us today!
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- Kathie lee, thank you so much for being with us today! kathie: thank you.
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- For being with us today! kathie: thank you. thank you, guys.
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- Kathie: thank you. thank you, guys. bless you, bless you!
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- Thank you, guys. bless you, bless you! tammy: yes, we loved it.
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- Bless you, bless you! tammy: yes, we loved it. thank you so much for
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- Tammy: yes, we loved it. thank you so much for watching and we'll see you
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- Thank you so much for watching and we'll see you next time on life today !
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- ♪
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- ♪
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- ♪ when darkness tries to roll over my bones ♪
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- ♪ when sorrow tries to steal the joy i own ♪
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- ♪ when brokenness and pain is all i know ♪
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- ♪ oh, i won't be shaken ♪
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- ♪ i won't be shaken ♪
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- ♪ 'cause my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love! ♪
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- ♪ shame no longer has a place to hide ♪
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- ♪ for i am not a captive to the lies ♪
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- ♪ i'm not afraid to leave my past behind ♪
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- ♪ no, i won't be shaken ♪
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- ♪ i won't be shaken! ♪
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- ♪ 'cause my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love! ♪
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- ♪ there's power that can break off every chain ♪
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- ♪ there's power that can empty out a grave ♪
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- ♪ there's resurrection power that can save ♪
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- ♪ there's power in your name ♪
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- ♪ power in your name ♪
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- ♪ there's power that can break off every chain ♪
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- ♪ there's power that can empty out a grave ♪
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- ♪ there's resurrection power that can save ♪
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- ♪ there's power in your name ♪
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- ♪ power in your name! ♪
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- ♪ 'cause my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love! ♪
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- ♪ i know my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love ♪
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- ♪ my fear doesn't stand a chance ♪
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- ♪ when i stand in your love! ♪
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- ♪ i'm standing in your love ♪
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