David Jeremiah - Prayer, Pagans, and Pretenders

August 31, 2025 | S1 E1329 | 58:20

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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Prayer, Pagans, and Pretenders | August 31, 2025

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Dr. david jeremiah: as a pastor, i've had the profound privilege
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Of walking alongside people through life's checkpoints:
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Marriage, the birth of children, and unfortunately death as well.
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Throughout the years, the questions i often hear
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Aren't about this life.
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They're about what comes next.
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About heaven.
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Dr. jeremiah: we are pretty self-sufficient people,
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But that has caused us to make prayer our last resort
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When we're in trouble.
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We make prayer so difficult.
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Prayer may be mysterious, but it's not complicated.
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It's simple.
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And in this series, i'm going to teach you
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How to transform your prayer life.
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I'm not here to make you feel guilty about not praying
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As much as you should.
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The real issue isn't guilt.
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It's that we're missing out on the great adventure
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God has for us.
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So you want to know why you're not seeing
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Your prayers being answered?
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Well, they're just not specific enough.
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Your prayer should be so specific
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That when god answers it, you recognize it.
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If you want your prayers answered,
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Three things need to be true:
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The request needs to be right, the timing needs to be right,
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And you need to be right.
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Don't pray like an adult.
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Pray like a child.
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Keep it simple, keep it specific, and keep at it.
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God cares about everything in your life,
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Even the little things.
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Nothing is too insignificant to get on your prayer list
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Because god has the capacity to care about every detail
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Of every one of his children, including you.
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What is prayer?
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Prayer is a conversation.
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Prayer is a relationship and prayer is a great adventure.
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Announcer: coming up on "turning point."
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Dr. jeremiah: the god who answers this prayer is a good
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And gracious and loving god.
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He never gives us anything that he does not give us the grace
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To deal with.
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He never asks us to walk a road that he does not lead us
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And go with us.
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When your heart is filled with gratitude,
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But you can't express it; when you're facing decisions
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That seem impossible, dr. jeremiah helps you
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Bring everything to god.
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The bible tells us to go to god in prayer for all things,
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But sometimes we need guidance on how to pray effectively
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And specifically.
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Here is dr. jeremiah with his message,
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"prayer, pagans and pretenders."
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Dr. jeremiah: the daughter of an atheist once told a friend
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That she had been raised without any religion.
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"i don't believe in god," she said.
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And then a little wistfully she added, "but the other day i came
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Across an old german book that contained a prayer,
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And if the god of that prayer exists,
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Then i think i might be able to believe in him."
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Her friend asked, "what was the prayer?"
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And she replied slowly, "our father who art in heaven."
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The lord's prayer is one of the most powerful evidences
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Of god's existence.
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Such a prayer could not have been conceived
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Unless god was real, unless he had revealed himself
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And made it possible for us to know him.
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This prayer, recorded in matthew 6,
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Is one of many prayers of the lord jesus.
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In fact, we know of at least 20 prayers that jesus prayed.
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Luke 3 tells us that jesus prayed at his baptism.
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Later, when crowds began pressing him in capernaum,
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He seemed to be aware of the danger of a misplaced devotion.
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He arose, and a great while before dawn, he prayed.
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Before selecting his 12 apostles,
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Jesus spent the whole night in prayer.
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Then there is his high priestly prayer,
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Which is recorded in john 17.
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And of course, the prayer in the garden of gethsemane,
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Where he surrendered to the father's will,
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Saying, "nevertheless not my will, but thine be done."
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But the most well-known prayer associated with jesus's name
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Is the one we call the lord's prayer.
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Of course, the lord's prayer has also been used
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In some unusual ways.
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I read about a minister who parked his car
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In a no-parking zone in a large city.
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Short on time and unable to find a legal space,
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He left a note under his windshield wiper:
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"i have circled this block ten times.
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If i don't park here, i'll miss my appointment.
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Forgive us our trespasses."
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When he returned, he found a parking ticket along with a note
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From the police officer:
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"i have circled this block for 10 years.
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If i don't give you a ticket, i'll lose my job.
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Lead us not into temptation."
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[audience laughing]
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Dr. jeremiah: the lord's prayer...
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The lord's prayer appears two times in scripture:
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Matthew 6 and luke 11.
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And in this study, we'll focus on the version recorded
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In matthew's gospel.
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What a privilege it is to take a few moments today
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To learn from the lord's prayer,
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Not just how to pray, but how to live in harmony
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With the will of god.
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I find it interesting that the disciples never went to jesus
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And said, "lord, teach us to preach," or "teach us to lead."
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They felt the same need that we feel:
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"lord, teach us to pray."
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The lord's prayer begins with some preliminary instructions
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About prayer.
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Before he gives the prayer in matthew 6,
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He lays out a couple of requirements.
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When jesus said, "after this manner, pray,"
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He first wanted to teach us something important
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About the prayer itself.
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First thing that you learn when you read these preliminary
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Instructions is that you should never pray like the hypocrites.
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That's what he says.
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The first warning he gives us is that our prayers
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Must not be hypocritical.
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I think that's so interesting in light of what i've observed
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In many prayer meetings that i've attended.
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He even uses the word "hypocrite" in his teachings.
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Matthew 6:5: "and when you pray,
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You shall not be like the hypocrites.
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For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the
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Corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men.
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Assuredly, i say to you, they have their reward."
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Hypocrites are more interested in the position than in piety.
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In jesus's day, jewish pharisees
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Were committed to praying at set hours:
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3 o'clock, 6 o'clock, 9 o'clock, and 12 o'clock.
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Wherever they were when the hour struck,
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They would stop and pray out loud.
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Some of the pharisees even planned their schedules
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To ensure that they were in the most public places
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When it was time to pray.
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At 12 o'clock, they would find themselves in the city center,
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And at just the right moment, they would lift their hands
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And begin praying aloud.
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And the crowd would look on and say,
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"now, that must be a really spiritual person."
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Jesus said, don't pray like that.
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Hypocritical praying is more concerned with position
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Than with piety, more concerned with the people
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Who are watching than the god you hope is listening.
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This doesn't mean that public praying is wrong.
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Some groups have taken these words of our lord
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And have used them to forbid group praying.
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That's just not what it means.
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After all, the gospels show jesus praying publicly
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On several occasions.
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And the book of acts, which is the history of the early church,
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Records many examples of believers praying together.
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There is a place for public prayers,
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But they must be genuine,
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And they must never take the place
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Of our private praying.
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One of the most sobering truths in studying the lord's prayer
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Is this: no one can try to impress people
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And at the same time truly connect with god.
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It's not possible.
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Jesus warns us upfront, prayer isn't about impressing others.
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If we pray for recognition, that's the only reward
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We'll ever get.
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Jesus gives a second warning: not only should we avoid praying
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Like hypocrites, but we must also avoid praying
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Like the heathen.
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He actually says that.
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"and when you pray," verse 7, "do not use vain repetitions
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As the heathen do.
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For they think that they will be heard for their many words."
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You might ask, "do the heathen pray?"
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Oh, yes.
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And jesus describes one of their key mistakes: vain repetition.
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This is the idea that we must repeat the same words over and
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Over, almost like a spiritual mantra to get god's attention.
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And if we're honest, even as bible-believing christians,
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We can sometimes fall into this habit.
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Jesus warns us not to approach god with rote prayers,
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But with real prayers, prayers that come from relationship,
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Not from routine.
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It's striking that before giving the lord's prayer,
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One of the most frequently repeated prayers in history,
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Jesus specifically warns against vain repetition.
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In luke's account of the pharisees and the tax collector,
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There's an intriguing phrase: "the pharisee stood
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And prayed with himself."
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Think about that.
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Have you ever heard someone pray with themselves?
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Maybe god is just listening in as a secondary thought.
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Jesus warns us that prayer must not be like that.
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In some cultures, people write their prayers on paper
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And place them in prayer wheels, believing that each
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Turn of the wheel offers the prayer up to heaven.
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The more spins, the more prayers.
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That's vain repetition.
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You see, prayer is all about god wanting our hearts.
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That's why jesus gives these warnings.
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Don't pray like the hypocrites.
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Don't pray like the heathen.
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That's what the scripture says.
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Now, notice the pattern for prayer.
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When you begin to study its meaning,
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You discover some profound theology.
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Look carefully at the prayer, and notice the emphasis on god
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In the first three petitions: thy name, thy kingdom, thy will.
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Then observe the second half of the prayer,
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Which highlights the poverty of man.
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Let me rephrase it so you see the contrast.
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Us, give us daily bread.
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Us, forgive us our debts.
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Us, lead us not into temptation.
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Us, deliver us from evil.
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The first part of the prayer is, thy, thy, thy.
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The second part of the prayer is, us, us, us.
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God has all the glory, all the power, all the majesty.
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We, on the other hand, have all the needs, all the wants,
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And all the poverty.
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Isn't it a privilege to come to a prayer where you can say,
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Lord, i'm empty, but, o god, you're full.
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You are my source.
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You are the one i come to.
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This prayer is everything we need for a life of prayer."
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For a season, i used the lord's prayer as the outline
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For my prayer every day.
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Let me show you how it works, why it's a powerful way to pray.
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The prayer begins, first of all, with praise.
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"our father in heaven, hallowed be your name."
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The bible tells us to enter into his presence with thanksgiving.
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Jesus said, "hallowed be thy name."
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That means we begin by honoring, worshiping, and praising god.
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How easy it is to rush into god's presence
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With a long list of needs.
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We start asking before we have even acknowledged who he is.
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But god invites us to begin with praise.
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Take the names of god, open the psalms,
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Find words that exalt him.
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Here's why this matters.
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If you start your prayer focused on your needs,
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You may not have confidence in your prayers.
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But if you begin by seeing god as he is, high and lifted up,
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Full of power and majesty, you know that your prayers are being
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Offered to someone who can hear you and answer you and help you.
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Make god big in your prayers.
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Begin with praise.
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"our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name."
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And then, after praise comes priorities.
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"your kingdom come.
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Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven."
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What would happen if god's will were done on earth
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As it is in heaven?
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In heaven, his will is done perfectly and completely.
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This is where we surrender.
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We lay our priorities before him and align them with his.
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I remind myself almost every day of my priorities.
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I want to give them to you.
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Here's what they are.
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And if you know anything about me and have watched
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What's happened here over the years,
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You probably will see that these priorities
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Are what have guided my life.
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First of all, i am a person before god.
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I must take care of that relationship.
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Secondly, i'm a partner to my wife.
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She's the most important person on this earth to me.
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Only god gets ahead of donna.
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Thirdly, i'm a parent with my children.
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I need to tell you that when you do what i do
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And what some of you guys do who have responsible positions
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That demand a lot of your time and attention,
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If you're not careful,
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You can sacrifice your children on the altar of your success,
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And it is a very poor choice if you do that.
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When i was first beginning to be a pastor back in fort wayne,
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I was trying to build the church i had started there
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With seven families.
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One of my favorite sayings to everybody was,
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"sure, i got to work every day and every night.
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I'm the gross national product.
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Don't you know that?
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There's nobody but me.
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If i don't do it, nobody's going to do it."
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So i worked many hours.
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I would get up early and study, make appointments with people,
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And i would eat supper and then immediately leave and go visit,
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And i visited every night.
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In many ways, it was a wonderful time.
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I led many people to jesus christ,
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And the church grew,
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But in that particular time, i was out of sync with god.
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I would come home, and after we would eat, my wife would say to
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Me, "are you gonna be gone again tonight?"
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And then i would give her my little gross national product
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Speech and tell her if i didn't go, there was nobody else to go.
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And if i didn't go, this church would never grow.
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And she would say, okay.
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But she had two little children that she had fought with all day
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Long, and she was hoping for a little help at night.
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This went on until it got out of control, and one day,
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I don't know if your wife has ever said this to you,
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But donna said to me, "honey, we need to talk."
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Yikes, yikes.
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And so, we sat down in the kitchen,
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And she gave me this speech.
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I'll never forget it.
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She said, "i don't know what to do."
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She said, "i love you, i love this church,
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And i love these children, but i can't do this by myself.
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And i feel so awkward saying anything to you about it
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Because i feel like i'm getting in between you
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And what you think god wants you to do.
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So i finally figured out what to do, and here it is.
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I am never going to say anything to you again
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About how you spend your time.
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I'm going to let you and god figure that out."
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And it broke my heart.
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That's part of this list of priorities.
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Once again, i'm a person before god,
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I'm a partner to my wife, and i'm a parent to my children.
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And then i'm a pastor to the church.
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And i remember telling the church one sunday,
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"you guys are number four."
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And i had many of them write me little notes and say,
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"pastor, don't ever change that,
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Because if we're not number four,
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You've got nothing to give us."
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Because this is god's priorities.
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And so, thy kingdom come, on earth as it is in heaven.
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What would happen if you prayed, "lord, let your will be done
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In my relationships with you and my spouse
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And my children and my calling?"
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This is the place in the prayer to submit every part
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Of your life to him.
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First, praise, hallowed be thy name, and then priorities,
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Thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.
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So after praise and after priorities comes provision.
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Isn't it interesting that it's number three in the prayer list,
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But it's number one on our practice list because we always
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Want what god has and we don't have up front.
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And we jump in at that and we don't praise him,
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We don't ask him about our priorities,
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And we ask him for what we need.
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Matthew 6:11: "give us this day our daily bread."
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How many of you have needs?
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Some may say, "are we talking about physical bread
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Or spiritual bread?"
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And the answer is both.
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God desires to meet our needs, but notice the order.
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First we focus on who he is, then we align our lives
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With his will, and then we bring our needs before him.
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Number four, personal relationships.
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"and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors."
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Interestingly enough, if you study this prayer,
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You will discover this is the only part of the prayer
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That jesus repeats.
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In matthew 6:15 at the end of the prayer, he says:
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"if you do not forgive men their trespasses,
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Neither will your father forgive your trespasses."
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Is there someone in your life you haven't forgiven?
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Jesus teaches us to pray, "lord, forgive me in the same way
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That i forgive others."
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That's a sobering thought.
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Life is full of relational challenges.
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Every one of us in this room has them.
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Friendships, family, work relationships,
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Every day there's something to bring before god in prayer
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In the relationship factor.
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And then we pray for protection.
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"and do not lead us into temptation,
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But deliver us from the evil one."
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Walking through life today is like walking
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Through a minefield.
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It's worse now than it's ever been in my lifetime.
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I say that honestly before all of you who are christians here
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Because i know most of you are.
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It's more difficult to be a christian now
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Than it's ever been.
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There are more things against us than have ever been
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Against us before.
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And we keep looking and waiting for it to change
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And when it changes it gets worse.
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And to be courageous enough to stand up in some settings
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And admit that you are a follower of jesus christ
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Puts your acceptability with that community in jeopardy.
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But here's what we pray every morning.
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"do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us
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From the evil one."
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We never know what temptation or challenge is ahead.
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That is why we need to pray for god's guidance and protection.
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So it's praise, priorities, provision,
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Personal relationships, protection,
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And guess where you end up?
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Right back where you started.
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"for yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
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Amen."
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God's prayer is framed in praise.
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We start with worship, we end with worship, and in between,
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We bring our needs to god.
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During world war ii, a young soldier lay dying in a hospital.
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A chaplain came to pray with him, and something in his heart
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Told him to pray the lord's prayer.
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When he finished, the soldier's eyes filled with tears.
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He whispered, "my mother used to pray that prayer with me.
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Oh, how good it is to hear it again."
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The next day, the chaplain returned and the bed was empty.
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The young soldier had passed away.
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A nurse told him, "just an hour after you left,
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He was still praying out loud and his last words were,
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'my father, my father.
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Yes, mother, he's my father, because i've accepted him.
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I'm coming home.'"
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My friends, you cannot say, "our father,"
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Unless he is truly your father.
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You only get into god's family if you accept god's son,
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Jesus christ.
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You must be born again.
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You've never trusted christ as your savior,
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This prayer doesn't belong to you yet.
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You have to start by putting christ
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On the throne of your life.
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But here's the good news.
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No matter who you are or what you've done,
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God extends an invitation to you.
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If you receive christ, he will become your lord,
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And god will become your father.
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And then with confidence, you can pray, "my father in heaven."
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For those who are already believers, let this prayer
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Remind you of god's desire for daily fellowship with you.
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Not with high-sounding words, not with vain repetitions,
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But with the simplicity of a child speaking to his father.
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So open your heart and speak to him,
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And let the lord's prayer give you an outline.
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It's good to memorize the lord's prayer,
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And we often recite it in church,
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But that's not the purpose of the lord's teaching.
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He taught us the lord's prayer to give us an outline
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So we would know how to organize our prayers.
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And i find that many christians who have been christians
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For many years have never thought about that,
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Have never thought even about a prayer being organized.
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If we don't organize our prayers and plan them a little bit,
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They just become sort of a mumbling in some ways.
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We pray about our children, we pray about our needs,
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We pray about our relationships,
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And most of all we praise god for his goodness.
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Somewhere along the way, all of this will be tested
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In your life.
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I used to say that, knowing it would be true,
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Until it happened to me.
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It's been tested in my life.
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And i'm here to tell you that the god who answers this prayer
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Is a good and gracious and loving god.
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He never gives us anything that he does not give us
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The grace to deal with.
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He never asks us to walk a road that he does not lead us
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And go with us.
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When i first became a pastor, i went to the church
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Where i was going to start with a bunch of families,
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And someone had put a sign up on the door in our kitchen.
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I'll never forget this sign that stayed with me all my life.
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It went like this:
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"god's commandments are god's enablements."
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The sign was simply to encourage me that if god had commanded me
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To come there and be the pastor,
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God was obligated to give me what i needed to do it.
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God will never ask you to go through anything
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That he won't equip you for.
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He just doesn't do that.
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[audience applauding]
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Dr. jeremiah: and the lord's prayer--the lord's prayer
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Is a reminder of that truth.
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He is your father.
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You are his children.
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I am his child, sons and daughters of almighty god.
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And there's not anything he won't do for you
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If you just pray.
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Pray.
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The father's prayer is a good place to start.
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Dr. jeremiah: there is a sanctuary in your prayer time
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With the lord that takes you away from every pressure
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And burden in this world.
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And for a short time, you can understand sweet hour of prayer.
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Announcer: stay tuned for another message
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From dr. jeremiah's series, "prayer: the great adventure,"
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"a life-changing prayer."
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Coming up next here on "turning point."
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♪♪♪
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Dr. jeremiah: we are pretty self-sufficient people,
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But that has caused us to make prayer our last resort
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When we're in trouble.
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We make prayer so difficult.
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Prayer may be mysterious, but it's not complicated.
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It's simple.
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And in this series, i'm going to teach you
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How to transform your prayer life.
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I'm not here to make you feel guilty about not praying
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As much as you should.
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The real issue isn't guilt.
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It's that we're missing out on the great adventure
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God has for us.
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So you want to know why you're not seeing
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Your prayers being answered?
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Well, they're just not specific enough.
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Your prayer should be so specific
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That when god answers it, you recognize it.
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If you want your prayers answered,
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Three things need to be true:
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The request needs to be right, the timing needs to be right,
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And you need to be right.
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Don't pray like an adult.
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Pray like a child.
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Keep it simple, keep it specific, and keep at it.
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God cares about everything in your life,
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Even the little things.
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Nothing is too insignificant to get on your prayer list
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Because god has the capacity to care about every detail
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Of every one of his children, including you.
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What is prayer?
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Prayer is a conversation.
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Prayer is a relationship and prayer is a great adventure.
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Announcer: here is dr. jeremiah with his message,
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"a life-changing prayer."
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Dr. jeremiah: almost 100 years ago,
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A young missionary in ecuador named raymond edman
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Staggered in the jungle, desperately ill.
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"he be dead by morning," the doctor said,
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And his wife dyed her wedding dress black,
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Readying it for the funeral which, in the tropics,
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You have to take place on the same day as the death.
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A sense of shock and sorrow hung over their little home.
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Thousands of miles away, edman's friend,
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Dr. joseph evans, interrupted a prayer meeting,
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Saying, "i feel we must pray for raymond edman in ecuador."
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And the group stopped everything and prayed earnestly
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Until evans cried out, "praise the lord,
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I'm sure the victory's won."
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Edman recovered, went on to have a remarkable career.
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He eventually became president of wheaton college
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And personally mentored hundreds of students,
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Including billy graham.
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An intercessory prayer.
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I don't know what happened to the black wedding dress,
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But i do know the story of the church
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Has been repeatedly dyed in golden hues
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By the power of intercessory prayer.
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When we pray, god hears.
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Jesus christ is our ultimate intercessor.
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Hebrews tells us he prays for us.
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Isn't that amazing?
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And we're to do the same.
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We're to offer supplications and prayers and intercessions
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And giving of thanks for other people.
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Praying is for us,
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But it's first of all for others.
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And to intercede simply means to pray for someone else.
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Jesus closed the gap between us and god
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When he died on the cross.
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And because of that we can now stand in prayer for others,
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Bringing their needs to god and asking god
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To work according to his will.
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So i want you to know that intercessory prayer
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Isn't just for super christians who are called
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To a specific ministry.
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Maybe they're on the prayer team.
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We're all intercessors, whether we know it or not.
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I know that you have prayed for me and in that respect
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You have interceded in my behalf.
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It's part of your calling, part of my calling, in christ.
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And it's a privilege to come every day
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Before the lord and ask his blessing
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On someone you know and love.
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The bible tells us to offer intercessory prayers
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For those in authority, for our friends,
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For the city of jerusalem, for fellow countrymen,
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For the sick, for our enemies,
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For those who persecute us, for those who forsake us,
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And for all people it says.
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That's what the scripture says.
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So can you create your own prayer list from those items?
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You absolutely sure can.
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Can you become an intercessor?
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You'll find all you need to begin in what we're going
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To look at today from the book of colossians
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And the first chapter.
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I have to tell you when i came across this prayer
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I was overwhelmed.
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I remember preaching a sermon on it a long time ago
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And realizing what a tremendous illustration this is
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For how we pray for others.
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And i don't know if you've noticed this,
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If you read the prayers of the bible
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They're quite different from the ones we pray.
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They're more like praying for the spiritual side of people.
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We pray for the physical.
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We want to get them out of the hospital,
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Get them better.
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But the prayers of the bible don't really resonate with that.
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I mean, there are some specific prayers for that.
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But i want to show you this prayer from colossians
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Because it teaches us to pray without ceasing.
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That is, without getting discouraged
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And without quitting.
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That doesn't mean you pray every moment.
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It just means you don't ever give up on prayer.
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Paul's prayers for the colossians
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Were tireless and ceaseless,
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And by the time he wrote the colossian letter,
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He had possibly been praying for this church for almost 10 years.
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It's easy to give up on prayer.
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If you don't get what you want after a certain period of time,
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If you don't see your agenda being fulfilled, you think,
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"well, i guess maybe god doesn't want that to happen."
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I just have too many illustrations of people
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Who prayed all of their lives for one thing,
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And then god answered in his time.
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Somebody said, "if he answers you,
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You quit praying.
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So he's going to keep you praying."
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Now this isn't the easiest habit to form.
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Many of us fail to pray as we should and we admit that,
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But there are always ways of weaving this habit
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Into the rhythm of our lives.
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Emma daniel gray worked for the federal government
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As a charwoman, which is an old word for a cleaning woman.
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She started in 1943, and for over a decade,
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She cleaned various government agencies in washington.
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In 1955 she was transferred to the white house
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And for the next 24 years
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She diligently cleaned the west wing.
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Every day when she came to the president's chair she paused,
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Cleaning materials in hand, and she prayed.
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She asked for blessings, wisdom, safety for each
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Of the six presidents that she served.
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Emma's prayers weren't long or complex,
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But they were persistent.
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She prayed faithfully over a period of decades.
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Have you prayed for someone or something like that?
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Have you ever had a long list of prayer lists that you pray for?
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Don't stop.
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Don't let anybody talk you out of it.
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John wesley advised, "storm the throne of grace
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And persevere there, and mercy will come down."
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Storm the throne of grace.
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I like that phrase.
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Our next lesson from paul's intercessory example
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Has to do with his petitions,
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What he asked for, what he prayed for,
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Maybe what we should pray for on occasion.
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His prayer for the colossians actually begins in verse 3
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Of the first chapter and it's in verse 9
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Where we find the heart of his intercession.
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Here from the scripture was his prayer:
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"that you might be filled with the knowledge
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Of his will in wisdom and spiritual understanding."
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He's praying this for the colossian believers.
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He begged god to fill the colossians with the knowledge
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Of god's will and he prayed it in a specific way.
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He wanted them to get this knowledge
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In all wisdom and understanding.
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Those are some big concepts, so let's break them down.
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The colossian believers were facing a serious challenge.
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False gnostic teachings were creeping into their community
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And threatening to lead them astray.
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And they were teaching incorrect ideas about god and faith.
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And paul wanted to replace the danger of those false ideas
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With true knowledge, knowledge of christ.
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He understood that knowledge alone wasn't enough.
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That is why paul prayed not just for knowledge,
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But for wisdom and spiritual understanding.
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Many christians today face a similar disconnect.
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They accumulate a lot of information about the bible,
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But they don't know how it works in their lives.
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It doesn't affect how they live.
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They know scripture, but they struggle to apply it
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To everyday decisions and relationships.
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That makes paul's prayer as relevant today as it could be.
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When you pray for each other, pray that god would give them
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Knowledge and wisdom.
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Someone once told me that wisdom is doing the right thing
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Without a precedent.
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And if that's true, we need that more now
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Than we ever have because we live in unprecedented times.
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Things are happening that have never happened before,
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And when we think about what can we do, i hear people say,
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"well, i guess all you can do is pray."
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All you can do?
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Come on, man, that's the best thing you can do.
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That's where you start.
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[audience applauding]
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Dr. jeremiah: so when we're concerned about
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A loved one who's struggling, we can follow paul's example.
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Instead of just worrying or offering advice, we can pray:
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"lord, fill them with knowledge of your will and all wisdom
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And spiritual understanding."
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There's always power in praying that god will equip
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The one you pray for with the presence of god
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In his own life so that he or she
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Will know what to do.
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Well, that's the persistence of prayer from the gospels
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And the petition of paul's prayer.
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But let me talk to you about the possibilities of paul's prayer.
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For the rest of this whole message, from 3 to 14
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In the first chapter, there's an unfolding of paul's requests
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For the people of colossae.
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And i'll tell you what, these are five life-changing realities
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That flow from prayer.
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This is what happens when you pray.
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This is what can take place in your life.
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This is who you become when you equip yourself to do that
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And make a purpose of it.
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And you do it every day or every day that you can.
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Verse 10 says that when people are filled with wisdom
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And knowledge, they will "walk worthy of the lord,
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Fully pleasing him."
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Walk fully pleasing the lord.
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If we walk with knowledge and wisdom, one of the results
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Will be we'll be pleasing the lord and walking worthy
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Of our calling.
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When we study the word of god, we develop an understanding
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Of what really pleases god, and this knowledge enables us
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To walk worthy of god.
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That's what it means.
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Walk in a way.
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Walk as if you know who you're with.
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You're with god.
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Walk in a godly way.
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So we can please god continuously.
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And then number two, we can produce fruit constantly.
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There's a lot in the bible about being fruitful
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And a lot of misunderstanding about it.
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So i'm gonna, right in the middle of this message,
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Give you and us together a little tutorial.
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And it's based on places in the bible
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Where the word "fruitful" appears.
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What does it mean to be a fruitful christian?
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And i have a little paradigm, if you write it down
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Or think about it later you won't ever forget it.
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First of all, what does it mean?
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The bible says we're to be fruitful in every good work.
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That's what we should pray for.
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We should pray for our friends that god would
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Make them productive christians.
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You know, we need some productive christians
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These days.
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We need people who aren't just saved and satisfied
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And waiting for the rapture.
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We need people who'll get busy serving the lord.
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And frankly, serving the lord is the only way you can ever
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Express your love for the lord in a tangible way,
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By serving others.
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Galatians 5:22-23 uses the word "fruit," first of all,
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To describe our character.
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The bible says: "the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace,
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Longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
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Gentleness, self-control."
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So what does it mean to be fruitful?
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It means to have good character.
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If you're a christian and you have good character,
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You're being fruitful.
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Second, the conduct of your life is also a fruit.
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Romans 6:22 says: "but now having been set free from sin,
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And having become slaves of god, you have your fruit
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To holiness."
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You don't have to be perfect, but as you grow
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In the perfection of christ, he uses you better
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When you're walking in character and in the right conduct.
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We bear fruit through our character,
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Which is who we are.
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We bear fruit through our conduct, which is what we do.
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And the bible speaks of our conversation.
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Did you know that how you speak is fruitfulness?
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"therefore," hebrews 13:15, "by him let us continually
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Offer the sacrifice of praise, that is, the fruit of our lips,
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Giving thanks to his name."
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The bible says that when we sing or praise or glorify god
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It's the fruit of worship.
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When we're worshiping, we're being fruitful.
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So we're building a little construct here.
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What is fruit?
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It's character, who you are.
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It's conduct, what you do.
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It's conversation, what you say.
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And the fourth is, it is monetary contributions to god.
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When you give money to the church or to the lord
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Through the church, this is what it says.
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I'm going to read to you from philippians,
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Where paul illustrates this principle.
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"for even in thessalonica you sent aid once and again
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For my necessities."
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He's talking about the offering that they gave him.
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"not that i seek the gift, but i seek the fruit
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That abounds to your account."
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Paul says, "i'm not interested so much in the gift,
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But i'm really excited because when you give,
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That fruit abounds to your account."
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When we fund god's work that's another evidence
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Of being fruitful.
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As we grow in knowledge and in the wisdom of christ
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We become fruitful givers.
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We rejoice in worshiping god in our tithes and offerings.
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So are you getting all of this?
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Character is who you are.
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Conduct is what you do.
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Conversations is what you say.
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Contributions is what you give.
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Fifth, the bible speaks of converts, who you win.
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Now i'm going to say this, most people think the only way
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You can be fruitful as a christian is to win souls.
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And i don't want to in any way downgrade the importance
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Of doing that.
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But winning souls is only one aspect of being fruitful.
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It's a very important one and in the respect of cause and effect,
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If you win somebody else you add someone else to the family
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Of god, that's really true.
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But proverbs 11:30 says it this way: "the fruit of the righteous
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Is a tree of life, and he who wins souls is wise."
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Paul called the new believers in achaia the first fruits
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Because they were the first of many who were coming to christ.
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He called them the first fruits, the first christians.
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Whenever we're planting gospel seed,
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We're always leading to a harvest.
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If we put the seed in the ground,
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We may not see it be watered,
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But we know if god is in it, he will see
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That it gets watered and finally harvested.
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Early in my ministry i had the opportunity
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To lead a certain man to jesus christ.
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I'll never forget this man.
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He was 6'9" and he weighed 300 pounds.
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You should have seen me baptize this dude.
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Oh my god, i'll never forget that.
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We displaced water into the choir loft.
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It was unreal.
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But one night, a few months after he got saved,
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He called me
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And it was at 1 o'clock in the morning, i remember.
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He said, "pastor, this is gene mccoy."
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I said, "what do you want, gene?
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It's kind of late."
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He said, "i just want to say congratulations,
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You're a grandfather."
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I said, "what does that mean?"
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He said, "well, i just led a friend of mine to christ.
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You led me to christ, that makes you his grandfather."
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And, you know, there is some truth in that,
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Although god doesn't have any grandchildren,
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It is true that when we bear fruit,
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It is also not just on us,
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It's a glorification of the lord too.
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It goes back to the original.
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He's the source of the gospel.
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We're just the communicators of it.
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Now think of how your prayers can begin to prompt these things
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In the life of someone else as they grow in knowledge
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And spiritual wisdom according to your requests for them.
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The result of having knowledge with wisdom
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Is that these things happen.
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This is what paul says.
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We can please god continually.
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We can produce fruit constantly.
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And now it says we can progress in knowledge, too.
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For those for whom we pray, we can pray that god will help them
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To "walk worthy of the lord, fully pleasing him,
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Being fruitful in every good work
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And increasing in the knowledge of god."
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That's a pretty good goal to have.
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I don't know if you ever do that,
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But i do it when i have an anniversary.
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Look back over your life and say,
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What more do i know about the lord
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Than i did last year at this time?
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How am i growing in my knowledge of god?
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It's easy to just get in and coast,
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To know that you're going to heaven
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And be thankful for that
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And then just go back to kind of a normal life
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That doesn't really make a difference.
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And that's what most of the world would say would be fine,
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But it's not fine according to the scripture.
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So we can please god continuously,
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We can produce fruit constantly,
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We can progress in knowledge consistently,
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And here's one for all of us right now:
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We can persevere under pressure, cheerfully.
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Look at paul's prayer again.
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He asked god to fill the colossians
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With the knowledge of his will,
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With all spiritual understanding
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So that "they might be strengthened with all might,
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According to his glorious power,
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For all patience and longsuffering with joy," wow.
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One thing leads to another.
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When you pray for someone, it triggers a domino effect
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Of grace in their lives, leading to their ability
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To persevere under pressure.
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Now, in the past when i've seen these words "power" and "might"
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And "strength," i've thought, "well, that's for the big test.
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When the big test comes, that's what you need."
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When i have had to stand up against some daunting problem,
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And i've had a few of those in my life,
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But i've also been learning something else.
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I think where you really need power, might, and strength
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Is not for the momentary challenges,
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But for the long haul.
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The christian life isn't a 100-yard dash, it's a marathon.
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And paul's prayer for the patience and endurance
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Of the colossian believers, they were having their issues.
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And he was praying that god would give them real strength
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And power, not so they could get over the hump,
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But so they could maintain the ministry and the reality
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Of the christ life for a long period of time.
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Paul goes on to say that when we are filled with wisdom
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And knowledge, we please god continually,
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We produce fruit constantly,
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We progress in knowledge consistently,
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And we persevere under pressure cheerfully.
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Note, it's not just get through it, but get through it with joy.
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Oh wow, that adds a little to it too.
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And number five, we praise god correctly.
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He ends this with verse 12 which says:
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"giving thanks to the father."
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And it brings us all the way back to the praise
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And thanksgiving with which the prayer began.
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If you study verses 12 through 14
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You will see how paul settles into this theme
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Giving us four great reasons for praise.
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He says: "giving thanks to the father who has qualified us to
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Be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light.
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He has delivered us from the power of darkness
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And conveyed us into the kingdom of the son
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Of his love, in whom we have redemption
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Through his blood, the forgiveness of sin."
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In my notes, i outline these verses.
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These verses are very powerful.
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First of all, we thank god because he remade us.
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When we were saved, we were remade.
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God made us so we could claim our inheritance,
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The inheritance of the saints and the light.
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Because we've been remade, now we're able to live for god
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In the darkness of this world.
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We've come out of the world of darkness into the kingdom
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Of light and god made us-- he made it possible for us
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To live in that kingdom.
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We couldn't live in that kingdom the way we were.
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There was nothing holy about any of us, let's face it.
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You don't live in the kingdom of righteousness
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With an unholy life and an unholy heart.
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Next, we can praise god because he rescued us.
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Paul says: "he has delivered us from the power of darkness."
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How many of you remember the day you got rescued, you know,
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When god came into your life and he just took you over, amen.
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[audience applauding]
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Dr. jeremiah: and then the bible says that we praise god
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Because he relocated us.
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He conveyed us into the kingdom of the son of his love.
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We once lived over here, but god came into our lives
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And changed everything, and he moved us over here.
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Now we live on kingdom of god street, amen?
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And all this happens because, as paul told the colossians,
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He has redeemed us.
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He wrote: "in whom we have redemption through his blood,
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The forgiveness of sins."
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Now to redeem someone means to buy them back
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And to set them free.
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Jesus's death was the price that was necessary to buy us back.
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We were on the market of sin.
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The bible says when we're not saved,
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We're like people who are slaves.
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And we have no will of our own until jesus comes
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And sets us free.
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And then we become his people
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And we become set free from slavery.
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And that's why he has given us this prayer to offer
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For ourselves and to others.
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If it was good enough for him to pray this prayer
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For the colossians,
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It's good enough for him to teach us this prayer as well.
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I began this chapter with a story about a missionary
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Named raymond edman,
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And i want to end this chapter and this message
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With another missionary story.
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In 1908, james fraser left a promising engineering career
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To become a missionary to the lisu people of china.
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The remote mountainous region made gathering
00:52:17.384 --> 00:52:19.686
For church services nearly impossible in winter,
00:52:19.686 --> 00:52:23.089
Frustrating his plans,
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But he came to believe god was in the obstacle.
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Realizing it took three to five days for each church visit,
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Fraser asked, what if i spent that time praying instead?
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He committed to interceding for the highland believers
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During the snowy months rather than trying to get to them
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Through the troubling times.
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And when spring arrived, fraser climbed the mountains
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To find his converts thriving.
00:52:49.149 --> 00:52:51.785
Their personal bible study and prayer had strengthened them
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More than when he had visited them before.
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From that day on, he was determined never to fret
00:52:57.991 --> 00:53:00.594
When he could not gather people, but always to seize it
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As an opportunity to pray for people instead.
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And by the way, today there are 935,000 lisu in southern china.
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More than 400,000 are christians.
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[audience applauding]
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Dr. jeremiah: raymond edman, the apostle paul, and james fraser
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Were all convinced of the power of intercessory prayer.
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Take out paul's prayer in colossians 1:9-14
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And make it your own.
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Ask god to give you the name of someone for whom you can pray
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And then put their name in colossians 1
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And you will never know what will happen.
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We believe in the power of prayer,
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We just don't believe in the practice of it.
00:53:46.740 --> 00:53:49.909
And you know, it's one thing to say, "oh yeah,
00:53:49.909 --> 00:53:51.578
Prayer's wonderful," until you don't do it.
00:53:51.578 --> 00:53:54.147
And i'll be honest with you, becoming active and religious
00:53:54.147 --> 00:53:58.485
And disciplined in that prayer discipline
00:53:58.485 --> 00:54:03.123
Is one of the hardest things you do as a christian.
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But once you get there and you get in the right place, you'll
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Discover there is a sanctuary in your prayer time with the lord
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That takes you away from every pressure
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And burden in this world.
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And for a short time, you can understand sweet hour of prayer,
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Sweet hour of prayer.
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That's what the bible teaches.
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We believe it.
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Now let's go and practice it, okay?
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Amen.
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David Jeremiah - Prayer, Pagans, and Pretenders

August 31, 2025 | S1 E1329 | 58:20

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