Allen Jackson: February 25, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now

February 25, 2025 | S25:E225

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  • Good evening, i'm alan jackson, and welcome back to nashville.
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  • We're going to begin tonight
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  • With government waste on a grand scale.
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  • Well, the dodge team of elon musk and company is making
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  • All the headlines.
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  • There was an important hearing on capitol hill
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  • That didn't get the same attention.
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  • It was a hearing for a change with democrats and republicans.
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  • And they were in agreement that, well, government
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  • Spending is out of control.
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  • The waste in fraudulent
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  • Spending is far greater than anyone thought.
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  • The 2024 budget was $6.7 trillion.
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  • That was $1.8 trillion more than the tax revenue that came in.
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  • But as much as $1 trillion worth was fraud.
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  • So if you can stop the fraud,
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  • Half of the annual deficit problem just goes away.
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  • Well, that's the situation we're in right now.
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  • But as i said at the beginning, there is a glimmer of hope.
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  • The two parties are talking.
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  • And so we're going to start talking
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  • To the man who's covered washington for years.
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  • Doug mckelvey. welcome back doug.
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  • Good to see you, alan.
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  • Thanks for having me.
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  • With all the reporters in washington,
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  • They missed the big headline
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  • That there was a consensus between the two parties
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  • That the fraud and government spending is so big
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  • And so damaging
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  • That they'll need to work together to get it fixed.
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  • It's a rare and important meeting of the minds, isn't it?
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  • It really is.
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  • And it's a wonderful thing to see for a change
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  • In the division of washington, which is washington these days,
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  • Whether or not the democrats will go along with the cutting
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  • That will be necessary is a different question.
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  • But that's certainly one small sign of progress.
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  • Well, what's different this time is that two successful
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  • Businessmen are looking at the budget
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  • The same way they would look at their own company.
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  • And why are they better at it?
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  • Because fraud in the private sector is less than 3%,
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  • And fraud and government spending is 20%,
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  • Which means that for every $100,000 spent
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  • By the government, 20,000 of it is fraudulent spending.
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  • Any idea why this hasn't been addressed before?
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  • I think that there's just reticence on the part of
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  • Politicians to make these difficult choices
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  • That private sector business leaders have to make virtually
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  • Every day.
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  • You know,
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  • I've never wanted
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  • To be a company president
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  • Because i didn't want to have to
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  • Call people into my office and say, you know,
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  • I'm sorry we're struggling right now.
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  • We're going to have to let you go.
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  • I hate. i would hate to be that person.
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  • It's a tough a tough choice to have to make.
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  • And i and i think because
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  • The government has, in effect, an unlimited supply of money,
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  • They don't have to make those kinds of decisions.
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  • We are the piggy bank as taxpayers are the piggy bank.
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  • And we've been giving lots of our earnings
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  • To the federal government to do what it needs to do.
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  • But, that's where the waste happens.
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  • So just not any kind of a, competitive, drive
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  • That would cause people
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  • To make these tough choices in government.
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  • You know, alan, i,
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  • I don't think i've told you this,
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  • But my first real job after college was was working,
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  • For the government, or at least for one of these
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  • Government contractors.
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  • What what they used to call derisively beltway bandits
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  • That circled i-495 around washington, d.c.,
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  • And who thrive off of government contracts.
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  • Well, i literally looked up.
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  • I was needing a job.
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  • I'd been playing
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  • Bluegrass, matt joke and making about $50 a week,
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  • So i said, i better get a real job.
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  • I moved back in with my parents right out of college, and,
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  • Looked through the one ads in the washington post,
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  • And i found a was an ad for, beltway contractor that was,
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  • Enlisting young people for their new contract
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  • With the federal government.
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  • That was the department of energy to conserve energy
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  • In the the federal government under the carter administration.
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  • It was the last year of the
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  • Carter administration during the the gasoline lines
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  • And all that sort of stuff and energy prices going up.
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  • So they were trying to conserve
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  • Energy in the federal government.
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  • So i got that job
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  • And i worked there for pretty close to a year.
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  • And, you know what i did there?
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  • Nothing. i mean, i mean that
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  • Literally out i did absolutely nothing.
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  • Yeah. i occasionally got coffee.
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  • I flirted with the pretty girls, but i did nothing.
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  • I can think maybe one thing i
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  • Did, i would collect reports, government reports.
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  • And i remember one in particular that i corrected
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  • And i changed the word.
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  • We must have been a ties energy consumption
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  • In the federal government to.
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  • We must define energy in,
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  • Consumption in the federal government.
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  • I changed it because definitive is just not a word.
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  • And i gave it back to my boss
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  • And he scratched out my correction, put definitive
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  • Eyes back in, and i said, you know, that's not a word.
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  • He goes, i know, but we like it that way this year
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  • In the federal government.
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  • And then i also
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  • Recall the one other thing i did was occasionally deliver,
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  • Envelopes to the department of energy
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  • From our offices on capitol hill.
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  • And i would
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  • Go for a walk a quarter mile or so to the department of energy.
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  • And i remember walking down these long, long corridors
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  • Late in the afternoon, like 4:00 in the afternoon.
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  • And i would just
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  • Purposefully look in every office
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  • Door as i walked down
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  • The hallway, doors would be open.
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  • Oh, there's a person filing their nails.
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  • There's there's a person to make their nails.
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  • There is a person reading the funny comics in the newspaper.
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  • There's a person reading a book.
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  • Oh, there's a person eating a banana.
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  • I would go, steve, you know,
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  • Hundreds of yards of corridors and see nobody working.
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  • Nobody.
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  • And somebody putting on their code,
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  • Getting ready to take the bus home
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  • Because it was 5:00.
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  • Closing out was a project,
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  • But it was it was an eye opening experience for me.
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  • But you could have legions upon legions of workers
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  • Who were, for all i could see, doing nothing.
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  • At the, at the political level, the political appointees
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  • Who are appointed by presidents and have the administrations,
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  • They tend to work really hard and they filter down to be,
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  • You know, undersecretary areas and, and their staffs.
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  • But beyond that
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  • Nothing really happens.
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  • Nothing really happens.
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  • I have a friend
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  • Who works for the federal government as an editor
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  • And for every,
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  • Person for every report she writes,
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  • It has to be approved by 50 senior people. 50.
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  • You heard that right?
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  • 50 senior people.
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  • So it just goes to show
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  • How much waste there is to cut in the federal government.
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  • And i just i can't wait for elon to get his hands on
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  • The department of defense because what is it?
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  • 3 million people?
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  • The budget of $800 billion,
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  • Probably more than 3 million people.
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  • When you consider, contractors and ancillary employees.
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  • So, there is no shortage of ways to be cut there.
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  • Well, president trump and elon musk already have a big group
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  • Of republicans
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  • Making the case for fixing the entire deficit mess, trying
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  • To make this an american issue, not a single party issue.
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  • Listen to this example.
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  • This is not a democrat problem.
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  • This is not a republican problem.
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  • This is an american problem.
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  • To make it clear for everyone, not only are we $36
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  • Trillion in debt, but the the compounding interest
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  • On our debt is also growing out of control.
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  • Even if we decided to defund the entire federal government,
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  • We cannot escape our debt.
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  • And we both know this is all been tried before.
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  • But do you sense this time it may be different?
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  • I do sense it may be different.
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  • And the key thing here is that $36 trillion of debt
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  • That marjorie taylor greene just mentioned.
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  • You know,
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  • I remember when i worked at fox news, i'm guessing
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  • This is probably about ten years or so.
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  • I did
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  • Several reports on waste in the federal government
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  • And where our tax dollars go.
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  • And i remember a barometer.
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  • This is this is really important.
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  • I remember a barometer of about ten years ago
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  • Speaking to some expert.
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  • And i can't recall who it was, but i remember his words,
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  • Which were when we reach a certain level of interest rate,
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  • The debt that we pay on
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  • Or excuse me, the interest that we pay on the federal debt
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  • When it reaches as much as we're paying
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  • For our defense, our national defense.
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  • That's a real danger sign.
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  • Well, it was just this year that interest on the federal debt
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  • Became larger than the budget for the defense department.
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  • That is a real that is a real danger zone.
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  • And we have got to start reining in our federal spending.
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  • There's two ways to do it.
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  • Traditionally, one is to raise taxes or reduce spending.
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  • Now donald trump has come up
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  • With a third idea, which is these tariffs,
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  • Which he hopes to make a lot of money to, that that is,
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  • Tabula rasa. really.
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  • We don't know where that's going to go if other countries,
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  • Fight back against it by raising more tariffs,
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  • Then our costs go up and that's trouble down the line.
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  • If it works
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  • Great for donald trump and great for us as americans,
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  • We can start to get a hold of this debt.
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  • But, but, you know, i think the way is, is donald
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  • Trump's way out of new tariffs along with cutting spending.
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  • But but i don't think he wants to cut the defense budget.
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  • I know he sees that lagging right now.
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  • So it's going to be a real thorny issue
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  • For him going forward. and,
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  • That that chapter has yet to be written.
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  • Well, we'll continue this conversation
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  • With doug mcelroy in just a moment.
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  • Chime in, if you like, by sending an
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  • Email to me at comments at alan jackson now.com.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now
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  • With a veteran of the ways of washington, doug mcelroy.
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  • The house oversight
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  • Subcommittee hearing we listened to did
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  • Unearth some memorable news on the fraud and waste.
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  • Do you remember
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  • The ppe loans that went out during the covid years?
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  • Well, a lot of fake businesses here
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  • And around the world put in loans and got approved.
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  • The biden team was in a rush to spend,
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  • But if the check writers had simply cross-checked
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  • The people who put in for money with irs records,
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  • They would have seen the fraudulent request.
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  • It's a simple fix that didn't happen.
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  • Doug, do you think washington will ever learn this lesson?
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  • Well, it's learning that lesson right now.
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  • And we're seeing we're seeing the chaos that is causing
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  • Because it's
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  • Just not the typical way of doing business in washington.
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  • We've gotten, so used to it through the decades.
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  • So i applaud elon musk for diving into this.
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  • I applaud is, young employees, the people who are tech
  • 00:10:37.429 --> 00:10:41.200
  • Savvy can dive into some of these computer systems,
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  • These outdated computer systems
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  • Of the federal government has understand them to find out
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  • Where the money is really going and, try to rein it in.
  • 00:10:47.673 --> 00:10:51.643
  • It is ruffling a lot of feathers in washington.
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  • You know, i it's amazing to me,
  • 00:10:55.714 --> 00:10:58.851
  • How much the city of washington
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  • And its surrounding environments profits,
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  • From the taxes we pay and the money that they spend on
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  • Our behalf.
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  • I don't know what the latest figure is, but it's probably 5
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  • Or 6 of the nation's wealthiest counties.
  • 00:11:11.530 --> 00:11:15.534
  • Our surrounding washington, d.c..
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  • It's almost as if
  • 00:11:17.803 --> 00:11:18.871
  • The federal government is is a great parasite.
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  • It's sucking the lifeblood out of the rest of the country
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  • And and feeding off of it at and
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  • So these cuts are going to be painful
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  • If they do, in fact, happen in washington.
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  • But i do believe,
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  • They need to be done.
  • 00:11:34.987 --> 00:11:36.421
  • You know, and i was having a discussion on, on facebook.
  • 00:11:36.421 --> 00:11:39.858
  • Discussion is a nice way to put it.
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  • With a friend of mine who
  • 00:11:42.361 --> 00:11:43.629
  • Works for the federal government and just lost her job,
  • 00:11:43.629 --> 00:11:46.698
  • And, you know, i said, yeah, i understand it's tough.
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  • You know,
  • 00:11:49.735 --> 00:11:50.569
  • I've worked in the private sector
  • 00:11:50.569 --> 00:11:52.304
  • My whole life, and i've worked in a very,
  • 00:11:52.304 --> 00:11:54.807
  • Unpredictable field of television news
  • 00:11:55.641 --> 00:11:57.843
  • Where your future is often dependent upon ratings and, and,
  • 00:11:57.843 --> 00:12:02.214
  • You know,
  • 00:12:02.514 --> 00:12:03.749
  • How many people are watching and what the company revenue is.
  • 00:12:03.749 --> 00:12:06.118
  • And and i've been fired lots of times.
  • 00:12:06.118 --> 00:12:09.121
  • The person was the only one that really, really hurt the rest.
  • 00:12:09.121 --> 00:12:13.559
  • I, i stomach with ease, and it's not easy.
  • 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.229
  • You know, when you're
  • 00:12:17.229 --> 00:12:17.863
  • When you're paying a mortgage,
  • 00:12:17.863 --> 00:12:18.997
  • When you're putting food on the table
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  • And when you put kids through college.
  • 00:12:20.432 --> 00:12:22.568
  • But i never got fired from a job where a better job
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  • Did not come down the line
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  • Immediately afterwards or soon there afterwards.
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  • And that my life got better.
  • 00:12:31.009 --> 00:12:32.845
  • So that's that would be my word to federal employees
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  • Who are facing this kind of thing.
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  • Life, in all likelihood, will be better for you.
  • 00:12:37.282 --> 00:12:40.385
  • So hold on.
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  • It's going to be a rocky road,
  • 00:12:41.553 --> 00:12:43.956
  • But you'll survive and you'll probably be a
  • 00:12:43.956 --> 00:12:46.191
  • Stronger person for it.
  • 00:12:46.191 --> 00:12:48.360
  • Well, one of the arguments that's made about how to fix
  • 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.729
  • This would be to come up with a government
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  • Id verification system for all government spending.
  • 00:12:52.397 --> 00:12:55.601
  • I want to ask
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  • If that's possible, given that the national id proposals
  • 00:12:57.135 --> 00:12:59.905
  • Always seem to get shot down by the democrats.
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  • Do you think there's
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  • Any willingness to go that far this time?
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  • I sure hope so.
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  • I don't know what the status of that
  • 00:13:07.112 --> 00:13:09.481
  • Legislation is, or executive order
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  • Or even what form it's taking right now.
  • 00:13:11.250 --> 00:13:13.118
  • But but it seems like the way to go.
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  • We have to get a handle
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  • On this kind of stuff because as we know from an audit
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  • Of the defense department, they don't know
  • 00:13:19.458 --> 00:13:21.393
  • We're literally millions, tens of millions, hundreds of
  • 00:13:21.393 --> 00:13:24.263
  • Millions of dollars are going they can't account for it.
  • 00:13:24.263 --> 00:13:27.733
  • So we need to start,
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  • Attaching the same criteria
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  • To the federal government that businesses attach.
  • 00:13:32.070 --> 00:13:35.173
  • Day in and day out.
  • 00:13:35.173 --> 00:13:36.241
  • It just has to happen.
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  • It has to become more efficient because.
  • 00:13:38.043 --> 00:13:39.811
  • So much money is wasted in the federal government.
  • 00:13:39.811 --> 00:13:42.481
  • And as i say, i think first and foremost among them
  • 00:13:42.481 --> 00:13:46.351
  • Is the department of defense, which is incredibly wasteful.
  • 00:13:46.351 --> 00:13:49.955
  • You know, there's a there's a situation here
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  • Not far from where i live in jacksonville, florida,
  • 00:13:52.424 --> 00:13:54.960
  • Where there's,
  • 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.295
  • Several businesses that are involved in repairing,
  • 00:13:56.295 --> 00:13:58.864
  • Littoral combat ships.
  • 00:13:58.864 --> 00:14:00.432
  • They're called littoral combat ships.
  • 00:14:00.432 --> 00:14:02.434
  • This is a ship that nobody wants
  • 00:14:02.434 --> 00:14:04.803
  • That the military doesn't want to be.
  • 00:14:04.803 --> 00:14:06.738
  • They were from the very get-go after they were designed
  • 00:14:06.738 --> 00:14:10.742
  • And and bid for and construction is under way.
  • 00:14:10.742 --> 00:14:14.012
  • Never works properly.
  • 00:14:14.012 --> 00:14:16.081
  • They found that hulls were cracking,
  • 00:14:16.081 --> 00:14:17.582
  • That they couldn't
  • 00:14:17.582 --> 00:14:18.817
  • Achieve full speed, that they they served no real mission.
  • 00:14:18.817 --> 00:14:22.054
  • But because they don't work, there's a huge market
  • 00:14:22.054 --> 00:14:25.624
  • To repair them.
  • 00:14:25.624 --> 00:14:27.092
  • And, a
  • 00:14:27.092 --> 00:14:28.327
  • Couple of local congressmen and my neck of the woods here
  • 00:14:28.327 --> 00:14:31.229
  • Bid to,
  • 00:14:31.229 --> 00:14:32.497
  • To set up a repair operations for these littoral combat ships
  • 00:14:32.497 --> 00:14:35.801
  • So that that repair work employs a lot of people.
  • 00:14:35.801 --> 00:14:40.405
  • But it's a ship that nobody wants.
  • 00:14:40.405 --> 00:14:42.808
  • And we see this across the defense industry, right and left
  • 00:14:42.808 --> 00:14:46.211
  • With planes
  • 00:14:46.211 --> 00:14:47.312
  • That nobody wants, with ships that serve no purpose.
  • 00:14:47.312 --> 00:14:50.615
  • And it's our taxpayer money that's going out there.
  • 00:14:50.615 --> 00:14:54.186
  • For no purpose.
  • 00:14:54.553 --> 00:14:55.454
  • No purpose other than to employ people.
  • 00:14:55.454 --> 00:14:57.556
  • But there are better ways to employ people, and i hope,
  • 00:14:57.556 --> 00:15:00.359
  • I hope, people in washington to see the light of day.
  • 00:15:00.359 --> 00:15:04.162
  • Well, doug mcelroy, thank you for joining us tonight.
  • 00:15:04.162 --> 00:15:06.531
  • I hope to see you in nashville soon.
  • 00:15:06.531 --> 00:15:08.800
  • I hope so.
  • 00:15:08.800 --> 00:15:10.369
  • In a moment, some thoughts about our role in all of this.
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  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:15:13.372 --> 00:15:20.001
  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:15:20.001 --> 00:15:21.483
  • I'm encouraged to see some of the steps
  • 00:15:22.350 --> 00:15:24.052
  • Taken by this new administration
  • 00:15:24.052 --> 00:15:25.587
  • To reduce government excess and reckless spending.
  • 00:15:25.587 --> 00:15:28.990
  • Fraud is being exposed.
  • 00:15:28.990 --> 00:15:30.592
  • Waste is being exposed.
  • 00:15:30.592 --> 00:15:32.894
  • Unfortunately, we've not been paying
  • 00:15:32.894 --> 00:15:34.396
  • Enough attention to all the foolish things
  • 00:15:34.396 --> 00:15:36.197
  • That our taxpayer money was being allocated toward.
  • 00:15:36.197 --> 00:15:39.634
  • While people have consistently shouted us, told us to shut up
  • 00:15:39.634 --> 00:15:43.571
  • And stay in the shadows,
  • 00:15:43.571 --> 00:15:45.073
  • Our government was spending billions of dollars
  • 00:15:45.073 --> 00:15:47.742
  • On an ideology that opposed our worldview.
  • 00:15:47.742 --> 00:15:51.212
  • You know, they say that the separation of church and state.
  • 00:15:51.212 --> 00:15:54.282
  • Yet if you review the expenditures of dollars
  • 00:15:54.282 --> 00:15:56.351
  • By the united states in recent years,
  • 00:15:56.351 --> 00:15:58.319
  • You'd be quite convinced that we had a religion
  • 00:15:58.319 --> 00:16:01.089
  • And that religion wouldn't be christianity.
  • 00:16:01.089 --> 00:16:03.525
  • Our government has been
  • 00:16:03.525 --> 00:16:04.492
  • A very powerful advocate for a worldview.
  • 00:16:04.492 --> 00:16:07.629
  • It's been defined by the lgbtq plus
  • 00:16:07.629 --> 00:16:10.632
  • Community, by die, by crt.
  • 00:16:10.632 --> 00:16:13.635
  • Those are worldview issues.
  • 00:16:13.635 --> 00:16:15.537
  • It's been institutionalized
  • 00:16:15.537 --> 00:16:17.205
  • In our government and academia, in the corporate world,
  • 00:16:17.205 --> 00:16:20.308
  • With all the
  • 00:16:20.308 --> 00:16:21.509
  • Zeal of a tent revivalist in the south in the summertime.
  • 00:16:21.509 --> 00:16:24.379
  • I was in jerusalem last summer.
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  • And as i approached the consulate,
  • 00:16:26.781 --> 00:16:28.583
  • I noticed that the largest banner
  • 00:16:28.583 --> 00:16:30.485
  • Over the building wasn't the u.s. flag.
  • 00:16:30.485 --> 00:16:33.254
  • It was a pride banner.
  • 00:16:33.254 --> 00:16:34.956
  • Our government.
  • 00:16:34.956 --> 00:16:35.924
  • That was the message we were taking
  • 00:16:35.924 --> 00:16:37.625
  • To the nations of the world.
  • 00:16:37.625 --> 00:16:39.661
  • Well, i'm grateful that these ungodly
  • 00:16:39.661 --> 00:16:41.796
  • Biblical expenditures are being reviewed and exposed.
  • 00:16:41.796 --> 00:16:45.667
  • The further we as a nation separate ourselves
  • 00:16:45.667 --> 00:16:48.236
  • From a biblical worldview,
  • 00:16:48.236 --> 00:16:49.571
  • The further we will separate ourselves
  • 00:16:49.571 --> 00:16:51.239
  • From justice, liberty, and true freedom for all people.
  • 00:16:51.239 --> 00:16:54.409
  • As christ followers.
  • 00:16:54.876 --> 00:16:56.478
  • I don't believe we can afford to stay silent.
  • 00:16:56.478 --> 00:16:58.813
  • We're called to speak up for the truth.
  • 00:16:58.813 --> 00:17:01.349
  • Now, i know sometimes that's uncomfortable.
  • 00:17:01.349 --> 00:17:03.585
  • We don't have to be angry. we don't need to be belligerent.
  • 00:17:03.585 --> 00:17:05.720
  • And we certainly don't need to be violent.
  • 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.555
  • We've got to have the courage
  • 00:17:07.555 --> 00:17:09.057
  • To tell the truth at our kitchen table, at our holiday table.
  • 00:17:09.057 --> 00:17:12.794
  • And when we gather with our friends,
  • 00:17:12.794 --> 00:17:14.329
  • If we will do that.
  • 00:17:14.329 --> 00:17:15.597
  • I promise you, there are more reasons for hope than despair.
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  • We'll be back in just a moment to read some of your emails.
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  • We'll be back in just a moment to read some of your emails.
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  • Thank you for taking the time to share your emails.
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  • Your thoughts and ideas are important to us.
  • 00:17:34.083 --> 00:17:36.685
  • Nancy commented on youtube.
  • 00:17:36.685 --> 00:17:38.621
  • Well, we fight, fight, fight.
  • 00:17:38.621 --> 00:17:40.189
  • We need to pray, pray, pray.
  • 00:17:40.189 --> 00:17:42.324
  • What we're seeing and hearing about our government
  • 00:17:42.324 --> 00:17:44.160
  • Is just so upsetting to the point of sickening.
  • 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.762
  • God, please give president trump and his people
  • 00:17:46.762 --> 00:17:49.231
  • The strength, wisdom, and the power to remove this
  • 00:17:49.231 --> 00:17:51.500
  • Evil from our government in our country.
  • 00:17:51.500 --> 00:17:53.869
  • Strengthen the hearts of your people
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  • To overcome the lies.
  • 00:17:55.204 --> 00:17:56.605
  • Our world is shaking and we need you more than ever.
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  • Nancy, i couldn't agree with you more.
  • 00:18:00.075 --> 00:18:01.710
  • Completely.
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  • I don't believe
  • 00:18:02.745 --> 00:18:03.779
  • The change in washington will ever be maintained
  • 00:18:03.779 --> 00:18:06.415
  • Or sustained unless we take the time to pray.
  • 00:18:06.415 --> 00:18:09.451
  • It's not just for when we're in church on the weekends.
  • 00:18:09.451 --> 00:18:12.021
  • We've got to pray every day that opens the door
  • 00:18:12.021 --> 00:18:14.223
  • For the possibilities of god.
  • 00:18:14.223 --> 00:18:16.225
  • Jerry emailed.
  • 00:18:16.225 --> 00:18:17.693
  • I turned to baptist church in harlingen, texas.
  • 00:18:17.693 --> 00:18:20.696
  • Our pastor is definitely a bible believer.
  • 00:18:20.696 --> 00:18:23.332
  • My wish
  • 00:18:23.332 --> 00:18:24.567
  • Is to have the full bible preach to apply to our daily lives.
  • 00:18:24.567 --> 00:18:27.636
  • Explaining the words in hebrew
  • 00:18:27.636 --> 00:18:29.038
  • In greek is good, but it's not as helpful
  • 00:18:29.038 --> 00:18:31.040
  • And discouraging as just loving and correcting words.
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  • I watch all of your tv programs.
  • 00:18:34.310 --> 00:18:36.011
  • The more the better.
  • 00:18:36.011 --> 00:18:37.580
  • Well, jerry, i have learned
  • 00:18:37.580 --> 00:18:38.614
  • I am grateful for every church that speaks the truth.
  • 00:18:38.614 --> 00:18:42.051
  • For too long we've had churches stepping away
  • 00:18:42.051 --> 00:18:44.153
  • From the authority of scripture, the redemptive work of jesus
  • 00:18:44.153 --> 00:18:47.156
  • With a compromised message.
  • 00:18:47.156 --> 00:18:48.524
  • If you're a pastor is giving you the truth biblically.
  • 00:18:48.524 --> 00:18:51.260
  • Give him a hug. tell him, and thank you.
  • 00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:53.429
  • Together, we're making progress.
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  • Cathy watching on youtube made this comment.
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  • Thank you, pastor jackson and kirk cameron
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  • For a fantastic show sharing the latest news
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  • And happenings in the lives of others.
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  • We are all looking forward to kirk's latest endeavor
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  • To provide families with a healthy
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  • And wholesome television program.
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  • Adventures with iggy.
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  • Kirk is done a masterful job of speaking to our culture
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  • And helping us to understand the truth.
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  • I'm looking forward to his new program
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  • For our families and young people as well.
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