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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: February 25, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now | February 25, 2025
- Good evening, i'm alan jackson, and welcome back to nashville.
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- We're going to begin tonight
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- With government waste on a grand scale.
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- Well, the dodge team of elon musk and company is making
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- All the headlines.
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- There was an important hearing on capitol hill
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- That didn't get the same attention.
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- It was a hearing for a change with democrats and republicans.
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- And they were in agreement that, well, government
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- Spending is out of control.
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- The waste in fraudulent
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- Spending is far greater than anyone thought.
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- The 2024 budget was $6.7 trillion.
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- That was $1.8 trillion more than the tax revenue that came in.
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- But as much as $1 trillion worth was fraud.
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- So if you can stop the fraud,
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- Half of the annual deficit problem just goes away.
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- Well, that's the situation we're in right now.
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- But as i said at the beginning, there is a glimmer of hope.
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- The two parties are talking.
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- And so we're going to start talking
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- To the man who's covered washington for years.
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- Doug mckelvey. welcome back doug.
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- Good to see you, alan.
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- Thanks for having me.
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- With all the reporters in washington,
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- They missed the big headline
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- That there was a consensus between the two parties
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- That the fraud and government spending is so big
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- And so damaging
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- That they'll need to work together to get it fixed.
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- It's a rare and important meeting of the minds, isn't it?
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- It really is.
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- And it's a wonderful thing to see for a change
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- In the division of washington, which is washington these days,
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- Whether or not the democrats will go along with the cutting
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- That will be necessary is a different question.
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- But that's certainly one small sign of progress.
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- Well, what's different this time is that two successful
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- Businessmen are looking at the budget
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- The same way they would look at their own company.
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- And why are they better at it?
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- Because fraud in the private sector is less than 3%,
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- And fraud and government spending is 20%,
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- Which means that for every $100,000 spent
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- By the government, 20,000 of it is fraudulent spending.
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- Any idea why this hasn't been addressed before?
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- I think that there's just reticence on the part of
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- Politicians to make these difficult choices
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- That private sector business leaders have to make virtually
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- Every day.
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- You know,
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- I've never wanted
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- To be a company president
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- Because i didn't want to have to
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- Call people into my office and say, you know,
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- I'm sorry we're struggling right now.
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- We're going to have to let you go.
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- I hate. i would hate to be that person.
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- It's a tough a tough choice to have to make.
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- And i and i think because
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- The government has, in effect, an unlimited supply of money,
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- They don't have to make those kinds of decisions.
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- We are the piggy bank as taxpayers are the piggy bank.
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- And we've been giving lots of our earnings
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- To the federal government to do what it needs to do.
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- But, that's where the waste happens.
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- So just not any kind of a, competitive, drive
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- That would cause people
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- To make these tough choices in government.
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- You know, alan, i,
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- I don't think i've told you this,
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- But my first real job after college was was working,
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- For the government, or at least for one of these
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- Government contractors.
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- What what they used to call derisively beltway bandits
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- That circled i-495 around washington, d.c.,
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- And who thrive off of government contracts.
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- Well, i literally looked up.
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- I was needing a job.
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- I'd been playing
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- Bluegrass, matt joke and making about $50 a week,
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- So i said, i better get a real job.
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- I moved back in with my parents right out of college, and,
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- Looked through the one ads in the washington post,
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- And i found a was an ad for, beltway contractor that was,
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- Enlisting young people for their new contract
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- With the federal government.
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- That was the department of energy to conserve energy
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- In the the federal government under the carter administration.
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- It was the last year of the
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- Carter administration during the the gasoline lines
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- And all that sort of stuff and energy prices going up.
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- So they were trying to conserve
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- Energy in the federal government.
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- So i got that job
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- And i worked there for pretty close to a year.
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- And, you know what i did there?
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- Nothing. i mean, i mean that
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- Literally out i did absolutely nothing.
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- Yeah. i occasionally got coffee.
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- I flirted with the pretty girls, but i did nothing.
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- I can think maybe one thing i
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- Did, i would collect reports, government reports.
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- And i remember one in particular that i corrected
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- And i changed the word.
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- We must have been a ties energy consumption
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- In the federal government to.
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- We must define energy in,
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- Consumption in the federal government.
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- I changed it because definitive is just not a word.
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- And i gave it back to my boss
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- And he scratched out my correction, put definitive
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- Eyes back in, and i said, you know, that's not a word.
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- He goes, i know, but we like it that way this year
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- In the federal government.
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- And then i also
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- Recall the one other thing i did was occasionally deliver,
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- Envelopes to the department of energy
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- From our offices on capitol hill.
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- And i would
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- Go for a walk a quarter mile or so to the department of energy.
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- And i remember walking down these long, long corridors
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- Late in the afternoon, like 4:00 in the afternoon.
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- And i would just
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- Purposefully look in every office
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- Door as i walked down
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- The hallway, doors would be open.
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- Oh, there's a person filing their nails.
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- There's there's a person to make their nails.
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- There is a person reading the funny comics in the newspaper.
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- There's a person reading a book.
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- Oh, there's a person eating a banana.
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- I would go, steve, you know,
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- Hundreds of yards of corridors and see nobody working.
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- Nobody.
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- And somebody putting on their code,
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- Getting ready to take the bus home
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- Because it was 5:00.
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- Closing out was a project,
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- But it was it was an eye opening experience for me.
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- But you could have legions upon legions of workers
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- Who were, for all i could see, doing nothing.
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- At the, at the political level, the political appointees
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- Who are appointed by presidents and have the administrations,
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- They tend to work really hard and they filter down to be,
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- You know, undersecretary areas and, and their staffs.
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- But beyond that
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- Nothing really happens.
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- Nothing really happens.
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- I have a friend
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- Who works for the federal government as an editor
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- And for every,
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- Person for every report she writes,
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- It has to be approved by 50 senior people. 50.
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- You heard that right?
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- 50 senior people.
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- So it just goes to show
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- How much waste there is to cut in the federal government.
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- And i just i can't wait for elon to get his hands on
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- The department of defense because what is it?
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- 3 million people?
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- The budget of $800 billion,
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- Probably more than 3 million people.
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- When you consider, contractors and ancillary employees.
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- So, there is no shortage of ways to be cut there.
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- Well, president trump and elon musk already have a big group
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- Of republicans
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- Making the case for fixing the entire deficit mess, trying
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- To make this an american issue, not a single party issue.
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- Listen to this example.
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- This is not a democrat problem.
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- This is not a republican problem.
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- This is an american problem.
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- To make it clear for everyone, not only are we $36
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- Trillion in debt, but the the compounding interest
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- On our debt is also growing out of control.
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- Even if we decided to defund the entire federal government,
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- We cannot escape our debt.
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- And we both know this is all been tried before.
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- But do you sense this time it may be different?
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- I do sense it may be different.
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- And the key thing here is that $36 trillion of debt
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- That marjorie taylor greene just mentioned.
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- You know,
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- I remember when i worked at fox news, i'm guessing
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- This is probably about ten years or so.
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- I did
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- Several reports on waste in the federal government
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- And where our tax dollars go.
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- And i remember a barometer.
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- This is this is really important.
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- I remember a barometer of about ten years ago
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- Speaking to some expert.
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- And i can't recall who it was, but i remember his words,
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- Which were when we reach a certain level of interest rate,
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- The debt that we pay on
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- Or excuse me, the interest that we pay on the federal debt
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- When it reaches as much as we're paying
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- For our defense, our national defense.
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- That's a real danger sign.
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- Well, it was just this year that interest on the federal debt
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- Became larger than the budget for the defense department.
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- That is a real that is a real danger zone.
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- And we have got to start reining in our federal spending.
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- There's two ways to do it.
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- Traditionally, one is to raise taxes or reduce spending.
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- Now donald trump has come up
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- With a third idea, which is these tariffs,
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- Which he hopes to make a lot of money to, that that is,
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- Tabula rasa. really.
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- We don't know where that's going to go if other countries,
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- Fight back against it by raising more tariffs,
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- Then our costs go up and that's trouble down the line.
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- If it works
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- Great for donald trump and great for us as americans,
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- We can start to get a hold of this debt.
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- But, but, you know, i think the way is, is donald
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- Trump's way out of new tariffs along with cutting spending.
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- But but i don't think he wants to cut the defense budget.
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- I know he sees that lagging right now.
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- So it's going to be a real thorny issue
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- For him going forward. and,
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- That that chapter has yet to be written.
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- Well, we'll continue this conversation
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- With doug mcelroy in just a moment.
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- Chime in, if you like, by sending an
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- Email to me at comments at alan jackson now.com.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We're back now
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- With a veteran of the ways of washington, doug mcelroy.
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- The house oversight
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- Subcommittee hearing we listened to did
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- Unearth some memorable news on the fraud and waste.
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- Do you remember
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- The ppe loans that went out during the covid years?
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- Well, a lot of fake businesses here
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- And around the world put in loans and got approved.
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- The biden team was in a rush to spend,
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- But if the check writers had simply cross-checked
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- The people who put in for money with irs records,
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- They would have seen the fraudulent request.
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- It's a simple fix that didn't happen.
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- Doug, do you think washington will ever learn this lesson?
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- Well, it's learning that lesson right now.
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- And we're seeing we're seeing the chaos that is causing
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- Because it's
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- Just not the typical way of doing business in washington.
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- We've gotten, so used to it through the decades.
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- So i applaud elon musk for diving into this.
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- I applaud is, young employees, the people who are tech
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- Savvy can dive into some of these computer systems,
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- These outdated computer systems
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- Of the federal government has understand them to find out
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- Where the money is really going and, try to rein it in.
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- It is ruffling a lot of feathers in washington.
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- You know, i it's amazing to me,
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- How much the city of washington
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- And its surrounding environments profits,
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- From the taxes we pay and the money that they spend on
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- Our behalf.
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- I don't know what the latest figure is, but it's probably 5
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- Or 6 of the nation's wealthiest counties.
- 00:11:11.530 --> 00:11:15.534
- Our surrounding washington, d.c..
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- It's almost as if
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- The federal government is is a great parasite.
- 00:11:18.871 --> 00:11:22.341
- It's sucking the lifeblood out of the rest of the country
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- And and feeding off of it at and
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- So these cuts are going to be painful
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- If they do, in fact, happen in washington.
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- But i do believe,
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- They need to be done.
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- You know, and i was having a discussion on, on facebook.
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- Discussion is a nice way to put it.
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- With a friend of mine who
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- Works for the federal government and just lost her job,
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- And, you know, i said, yeah, i understand it's tough.
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- You know,
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- I've worked in the private sector
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- My whole life, and i've worked in a very,
- 00:11:52.304 --> 00:11:54.807
- Unpredictable field of television news
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- Where your future is often dependent upon ratings and, and,
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- You know,
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- How many people are watching and what the company revenue is.
- 00:12:03.749 --> 00:12:06.118
- And and i've been fired lots of times.
- 00:12:06.118 --> 00:12:09.121
- The person was the only one that really, really hurt the rest.
- 00:12:09.121 --> 00:12:13.559
- I, i stomach with ease, and it's not easy.
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- You know, when you're
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- When you're paying a mortgage,
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- When you're putting food on the table
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- And when you put kids through college.
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- But i never got fired from a job where a better job
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- Did not come down the line
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- Immediately afterwards or soon there afterwards.
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- And that my life got better.
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- So that's that would be my word to federal employees
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- Who are facing this kind of thing.
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- Life, in all likelihood, will be better for you.
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- So hold on.
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- It's going to be a rocky road,
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- But you'll survive and you'll probably be a
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- Stronger person for it.
- 00:12:46.191 --> 00:12:48.360
- Well, one of the arguments that's made about how to fix
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- This would be to come up with a government
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- Id verification system for all government spending.
- 00:12:52.397 --> 00:12:55.601
- I want to ask
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- If that's possible, given that the national id proposals
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- Always seem to get shot down by the democrats.
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- Do you think there's
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- Any willingness to go that far this time?
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- I sure hope so.
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- I don't know what the status of that
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- Legislation is, or executive order
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- Or even what form it's taking right now.
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- But but it seems like the way to go.
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- We have to get a handle
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- On this kind of stuff because as we know from an audit
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- Of the defense department, they don't know
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- We're literally millions, tens of millions, hundreds of
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- Millions of dollars are going they can't account for it.
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- So we need to start,
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- Attaching the same criteria
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- To the federal government that businesses attach.
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- Day in and day out.
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- It just has to happen.
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- It has to become more efficient because.
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- So much money is wasted in the federal government.
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- And as i say, i think first and foremost among them
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- Is the department of defense, which is incredibly wasteful.
- 00:13:46.351 --> 00:13:49.955
- You know, there's a there's a situation here
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- Not far from where i live in jacksonville, florida,
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- Where there's,
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- Several businesses that are involved in repairing,
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- Littoral combat ships.
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- They're called littoral combat ships.
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- This is a ship that nobody wants
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- That the military doesn't want to be.
- 00:14:04.803 --> 00:14:06.738
- They were from the very get-go after they were designed
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- And and bid for and construction is under way.
- 00:14:10.742 --> 00:14:14.012
- Never works properly.
- 00:14:14.012 --> 00:14:16.081
- They found that hulls were cracking,
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- That they couldn't
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- Achieve full speed, that they they served no real mission.
- 00:14:18.817 --> 00:14:22.054
- But because they don't work, there's a huge market
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- To repair them.
- 00:14:25.624 --> 00:14:27.092
- And, a
- 00:14:27.092 --> 00:14:28.327
- Couple of local congressmen and my neck of the woods here
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- Bid to,
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- To set up a repair operations for these littoral combat ships
- 00:14:32.497 --> 00:14:35.801
- So that that repair work employs a lot of people.
- 00:14:35.801 --> 00:14:40.405
- But it's a ship that nobody wants.
- 00:14:40.405 --> 00:14:42.808
- And we see this across the defense industry, right and left
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- With planes
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- That nobody wants, with ships that serve no purpose.
- 00:14:47.312 --> 00:14:50.615
- And it's our taxpayer money that's going out there.
- 00:14:50.615 --> 00:14:54.186
- For no purpose.
- 00:14:54.553 --> 00:14:55.454
- No purpose other than to employ people.
- 00:14:55.454 --> 00:14:57.556
- But there are better ways to employ people, and i hope,
- 00:14:57.556 --> 00:15:00.359
- I hope, people in washington to see the light of day.
- 00:15:00.359 --> 00:15:04.162
- Well, doug mcelroy, thank you for joining us tonight.
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- I hope to see you in nashville soon.
- 00:15:06.531 --> 00:15:08.800
- I hope so.
- 00:15:08.800 --> 00:15:10.369
- In a moment, some thoughts about our role in all of this.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
- 00:15:20.001 --> 00:15:21.483
- I'm encouraged to see some of the steps
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- Taken by this new administration
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- To reduce government excess and reckless spending.
- 00:15:25.587 --> 00:15:28.990
- Fraud is being exposed.
- 00:15:28.990 --> 00:15:30.592
- Waste is being exposed.
- 00:15:30.592 --> 00:15:32.894
- Unfortunately, we've not been paying
- 00:15:32.894 --> 00:15:34.396
- Enough attention to all the foolish things
- 00:15:34.396 --> 00:15:36.197
- That our taxpayer money was being allocated toward.
- 00:15:36.197 --> 00:15:39.634
- While people have consistently shouted us, told us to shut up
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- And stay in the shadows,
- 00:15:43.571 --> 00:15:45.073
- Our government was spending billions of dollars
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- On an ideology that opposed our worldview.
- 00:15:47.742 --> 00:15:51.212
- You know, they say that the separation of church and state.
- 00:15:51.212 --> 00:15:54.282
- Yet if you review the expenditures of dollars
- 00:15:54.282 --> 00:15:56.351
- By the united states in recent years,
- 00:15:56.351 --> 00:15:58.319
- You'd be quite convinced that we had a religion
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- And that religion wouldn't be christianity.
- 00:16:01.089 --> 00:16:03.525
- Our government has been
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- A very powerful advocate for a worldview.
- 00:16:04.492 --> 00:16:07.629
- It's been defined by the lgbtq plus
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- Community, by die, by crt.
- 00:16:10.632 --> 00:16:13.635
- Those are worldview issues.
- 00:16:13.635 --> 00:16:15.537
- It's been institutionalized
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- In our government and academia, in the corporate world,
- 00:16:17.205 --> 00:16:20.308
- With all the
- 00:16:20.308 --> 00:16:21.509
- Zeal of a tent revivalist in the south in the summertime.
- 00:16:21.509 --> 00:16:24.379
- I was in jerusalem last summer.
- 00:16:25.013 --> 00:16:26.781
- And as i approached the consulate,
- 00:16:26.781 --> 00:16:28.583
- I noticed that the largest banner
- 00:16:28.583 --> 00:16:30.485
- Over the building wasn't the u.s. flag.
- 00:16:30.485 --> 00:16:33.254
- It was a pride banner.
- 00:16:33.254 --> 00:16:34.956
- Our government.
- 00:16:34.956 --> 00:16:35.924
- That was the message we were taking
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- To the nations of the world.
- 00:16:37.625 --> 00:16:39.661
- Well, i'm grateful that these ungodly
- 00:16:39.661 --> 00:16:41.796
- Biblical expenditures are being reviewed and exposed.
- 00:16:41.796 --> 00:16:45.667
- The further we as a nation separate ourselves
- 00:16:45.667 --> 00:16:48.236
- From a biblical worldview,
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- The further we will separate ourselves
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- From justice, liberty, and true freedom for all people.
- 00:16:51.239 --> 00:16:54.409
- As christ followers.
- 00:16:54.876 --> 00:16:56.478
- I don't believe we can afford to stay silent.
- 00:16:56.478 --> 00:16:58.813
- We're called to speak up for the truth.
- 00:16:58.813 --> 00:17:01.349
- Now, i know sometimes that's uncomfortable.
- 00:17:01.349 --> 00:17:03.585
- We don't have to be angry. we don't need to be belligerent.
- 00:17:03.585 --> 00:17:05.720
- And we certainly don't need to be violent.
- 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.555
- We've got to have the courage
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- To tell the truth at our kitchen table, at our holiday table.
- 00:17:09.057 --> 00:17:12.794
- And when we gather with our friends,
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- If we will do that.
- 00:17:14.329 --> 00:17:15.597
- I promise you, there are more reasons for hope than despair.
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- We'll be back in just a moment to read some of your emails.
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- We'll be back in just a moment to read some of your emails.
- 00:17:29.001 --> 00:17:30.713
- Thank you for taking the time to share your emails.
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- Your thoughts and ideas are important to us.
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- Nancy commented on youtube.
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- Well, we fight, fight, fight.
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- We need to pray, pray, pray.
- 00:17:40.189 --> 00:17:42.324
- What we're seeing and hearing about our government
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- Is just so upsetting to the point of sickening.
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- God, please give president trump and his people
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- The strength, wisdom, and the power to remove this
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- Evil from our government in our country.
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- Strengthen the hearts of your people
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- To overcome the lies.
- 00:17:55.204 --> 00:17:56.605
- Our world is shaking and we need you more than ever.
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- Nancy, i couldn't agree with you more.
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- Completely.
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- I don't believe
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- The change in washington will ever be maintained
- 00:18:03.779 --> 00:18:06.415
- Or sustained unless we take the time to pray.
- 00:18:06.415 --> 00:18:09.451
- It's not just for when we're in church on the weekends.
- 00:18:09.451 --> 00:18:12.021
- We've got to pray every day that opens the door
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- For the possibilities of god.
- 00:18:14.223 --> 00:18:16.225
- Jerry emailed.
- 00:18:16.225 --> 00:18:17.693
- I turned to baptist church in harlingen, texas.
- 00:18:17.693 --> 00:18:20.696
- Our pastor is definitely a bible believer.
- 00:18:20.696 --> 00:18:23.332
- My wish
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- Is to have the full bible preach to apply to our daily lives.
- 00:18:24.567 --> 00:18:27.636
- Explaining the words in hebrew
- 00:18:27.636 --> 00:18:29.038
- In greek is good, but it's not as helpful
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- And discouraging as just loving and correcting words.
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- I watch all of your tv programs.
- 00:18:34.310 --> 00:18:36.011
- The more the better.
- 00:18:36.011 --> 00:18:37.580
- Well, jerry, i have learned
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- I am grateful for every church that speaks the truth.
- 00:18:38.614 --> 00:18:42.051
- For too long we've had churches stepping away
- 00:18:42.051 --> 00:18:44.153
- From the authority of scripture, the redemptive work of jesus
- 00:18:44.153 --> 00:18:47.156
- With a compromised message.
- 00:18:47.156 --> 00:18:48.524
- If you're a pastor is giving you the truth biblically.
- 00:18:48.524 --> 00:18:51.260
- Give him a hug. tell him, and thank you.
- 00:18:51.260 --> 00:18:53.429
- Together, we're making progress.
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- Cathy watching on youtube made this comment.
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- Thank you, pastor jackson and kirk cameron
- 00:18:58.901 --> 00:19:00.803
- For a fantastic show sharing the latest news
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- And happenings in the lives of others.
- 00:19:03.772 --> 00:19:05.808
- We are all looking forward to kirk's latest endeavor
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- To provide families with a healthy
- 00:19:08.143 --> 00:19:09.712
- And wholesome television program.
- 00:19:09.712 --> 00:19:11.747
- Adventures with iggy.
- 00:19:11.747 --> 00:19:14.683
- Kirk is done a masterful job of speaking to our culture
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- And helping us to understand the truth.
- 00:19:18.554 --> 00:19:20.422
- I'm looking forward to his new program
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- For our families and young people as well.
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