Joyce Meyer - Life Beyond Hurt (Part 2)

August 6, 2025 | 29:29

Can God truly heal deep wounds? Watch Joyce, Ginger, and Erin chat with Nona Jones about healing, faith, and discovering a brighter future through God’s love.

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Joyce Meyer: Enjoying Everyday Life | Joyce Meyer - Life Beyond Hurt (Part 2) | August 6, 2025

>> joyce: well, before we start
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>> joyce: well, before we start today's teaching, i'm personally
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Today's teaching, i'm personally inviting you to this year's love
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Inviting you to this year's love life women's conference.
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Life women's conference. my special guests and i will
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My special guests and i will share god's word and help
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Share god's word and help you experience his presence
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You experience his presence and love in a life-changing way.
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And love in a life-changing way. i will show you what
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I will show you what it means to be fully his.
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It means to be fully his. take time away from
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Take time away from all the cares of this world
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All the cares of this world and focus on the one who
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And focus on the one who has your name inscribed
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Has your name inscribed on the palms of his hands.
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On the palms of his hands. he thinks about you every day.
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer,
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer, and i believe that god can heal you everywhere you hurt.
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>> ginger: well, hello,
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>> ginger: well, hello, everyone.
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>> ginger: well, hello, everyone. thank you for being with
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Everyone. thank you for being with us here today on “enjoying
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Thank you for being with us here today on “enjoying everyday life.”
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Us here today on “enjoying everyday life.” yesterday, we enjoyed great
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Everyday life.” yesterday, we enjoyed great conversation with joyce
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Yesterday, we enjoyed great conversation with joyce and our guest, nona jones,
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Conversation with joyce and our guest, nona jones, with some deep insight
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To the healing
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To the healing process of the soul.
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To the healing process of the soul. you see, god knows
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Process of the soul. you see, god knows your every hurt.
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You see, god knows your every hurt. we can receive comfort
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Your every hurt. we can receive comfort in knowing that he cares
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We can receive comfort in knowing that he cares about what you've gone through
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In knowing that he cares about what you've gone through and wants to take your hand
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About what you've gone through and wants to take your hand during this healing process.
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And wants to take your hand during this healing process. we hope you'll be encouraged
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During this healing process. we hope you'll be encouraged to see god has purpose
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We hope you'll be encouraged to see god has purpose for your life and that he can
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To see god has purpose for your life and that he can not only heal, but he can
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For your life and that he can not only heal, but he can also help others through you.
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Not only heal, but he can also help others through you. so, let's continue in our
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Also help others through you. so, let's continue in our conversation from
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So, let's continue in our conversation from a talk it out episode,
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Conversation from a talk it out episode, right now.
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>> ginger: so, we're so glad
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>> ginger: so, we're so glad that you're here with us,
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>> ginger: so, we're so glad that you're here with us, to come on in,
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That you're here with us, to come on in, and be part of this conversation
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To come on in, and be part of this conversation with joyce and erin,
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And be part of this conversation with joyce and erin, and our special guest today,
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With joyce and erin, and our special guest today, nona jones.
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And our special guest today, nona jones. >> nona: hey!
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Nona jones. >> nona: hey! >> ginger: it is so good
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>> nona: hey! >> ginger: it is so good to have you with us.
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>> ginger: it is so good to have you with us. >> [ladies clapping]
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To have you with us. >> [ladies clapping] >> nona: oh, this is my joy.
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>> [ladies clapping] >> nona: oh, this is my joy. thanks for having me.
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>> nona: oh, this is my joy. thanks for having me. i'm excited about
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Thanks for having me. i'm excited about this conversation, today.
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I'm excited about this conversation, today. >> ginger: we're thrilled.
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This conversation, today. >> ginger: we're thrilled. what people may not know about
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>> ginger: we're thrilled. what people may not know about nona, if you know a lot about
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What people may not know about nona, if you know a lot about nona, you may not know--
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Nona, if you know a lot about nona, you may not know-- >> joyce: or if you
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Nona, you may not know-- >> joyce: or if you don't know nona.
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>> joyce: or if you don't know nona. >> ginger: right,
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Don't know nona. >> ginger: right, you may not realize
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>> ginger: right, you may not realize that one of her favorite
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You may not realize that one of her favorite things to do is karaoke.
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That one of her favorite things to do is karaoke. >> [ladies laughing]
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Things to do is karaoke. >> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: and a celine dion
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: and a celine dion song is your go-to.
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>> ginger: and a celine dion song is your go-to. >> nona: you know,
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Song is your go-to. >> nona: you know, but it has to be on a cruise.
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>> nona: you know, but it has to be on a cruise. i love to do "my heart
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But it has to be on a cruise. i love to do "my heart will go on" on the cruise
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I love to do "my heart will go on" on the cruise because it just feels right.
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Will go on" on the cruise because it just feels right. it feels wrong, but right.
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Because it just feels right. it feels wrong, but right. >> ginger: it feels so wrong,
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It feels wrong, but right. >> ginger: it feels so wrong, it feels right.
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>> ginger: it feels so wrong, it feels right. >> nona: yeah.
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It feels right. >> nona: yeah. >> erin: but you won't
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>> nona: yeah. >> erin: but you won't do it on land, though.
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>> erin: but you won't do it on land, though. >> ginger: something
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Do it on land, though. >> ginger: something about the titanic.
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>> ginger: something about the titanic. >> nona: no, it has
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To be on a boat.
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To be on a boat. it has to be on a boat.
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To be on a boat. it has to be on a boat. and there has
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It has to be on a boat. and there has to be wind blowing.
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And there has to be wind blowing. there has to be a moment,
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To be wind blowing. there has to be a moment, you know?
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There has to be a moment, you know? >> ginger: maybe we'll save
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You know? >> ginger: maybe we'll save that for the end.
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>> ginger: maybe we'll save that for the end. >> nona: let's do it.
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That for the end. >> nona: let's do it. >> ginger: let's see
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>> nona: let's do it. >> ginger: let's see what happens.
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>> ginger: let's see what happens. >> joyce: let's save
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What happens. >> joyce: let's save it until the end.
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>> joyce: let's save it until the end. >> [ladies laughing]
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It until the end. >> [ladies laughing] >> erin: joyce is gonna join in.
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>> [ladies laughing] >> erin: joyce is gonna join in. >> nona: yes.
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>> erin: joyce is gonna join in. >> nona: yes. four-part harmony.
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>> nona: yes. four-part harmony. it's gonna be great.
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Four-part harmony. it's gonna be great. >> ginger: we are gonna
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It's gonna be great. >> ginger: we are gonna be talking about this
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>> ginger: we are gonna be talking about this topic for a little bit
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Be talking about this topic for a little bit because there's--
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Topic for a little bit because there's-- you know, healing is not
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Because there's-- you know, healing is not something that you hear
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You know, healing is not something that you hear an answer and it's done,
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Something that you hear an answer and it's done, you know.
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An answer and it's done, you know. and god, of course,
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You know. and god, of course, can do miracles.
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And god, of course, can do miracles. he can work in that way,
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Can do miracles. he can work in that way, but normally he walks
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He can work in that way, but normally he walks us through a process,
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But normally he walks us through a process, and we have to give
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Us through a process, and we have to give ourself patience and time,
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And we have to give ourself patience and time, because that's the only way
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Ourself patience and time, because that's the only way that the healing really sticks.
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Because that's the only way that the healing really sticks. and so, joyce,
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That the healing really sticks. and so, joyce, you've been through
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And so, joyce, you've been through this personally.
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You've been through this personally. you've shared about it.
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This personally. you've shared about it. you've been such
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You've shared about it. you've been such a huge part of sharing
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You've been such a huge part of sharing this important message
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A huge part of sharing this important message in so many people's lives.
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This important message in so many people's lives. >> joyce: there are so many
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In so many people's lives. >> joyce: there are so many people that want to forgive.
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>> joyce: there are so many people that want to forgive. they ask for prayer
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People that want to forgive. they ask for prayer that they can forgive.
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They ask for prayer that they can forgive. and then their
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That they can forgive. and then their feelings don't change.
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And then their feelings don't change. and it was so helpful
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Feelings don't change. and it was so helpful for me to realize
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And it was so helpful for me to realize that it's not a feeling;
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For me to realize that it's not a feeling; it's a decision about how you're
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That it's not a feeling; it's a decision about how you're gonna treat somebody.
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It's a decision about how you're gonna treat somebody. and so, with my mom and dad,
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Gonna treat somebody. and so, with my mom and dad, i did the "forgiveness prayer"
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And so, with my mom and dad, i did the "forgiveness prayer" of the christian,
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I did the "forgiveness prayer" of the christian, "i forgive you prayer."
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Of the christian, "i forgive you prayer." but i didn't want
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"i forgive you prayer." but i didn't want to be around 'em.
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But i didn't want to be around 'em. didn't want to do
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To be around 'em. didn't want to do anything for 'em.
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Didn't want to do anything for 'em. saw 'em the very
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Anything for 'em. saw 'em the very least that i could.
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Saw 'em the very least that i could. and then, as they got older,
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Least that i could. and then, as they got older, god asked me to move
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And then, as they got older, god asked me to move them close to my home
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God asked me to move them close to my home and take care of them.
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Them close to my home and take care of them. and i rebuked the devil.
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And take care of them. and i rebuked the devil. i said, "that ain't god.
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And i rebuked the devil. i said, "that ain't god. god would not--"
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I said, "that ain't god. god would not--" >> nona: he shows us what's
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God would not--" >> nona: he shows us what's in our heart.
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>> nona: he shows us what's in our heart. >> joyce: i thought, "he would
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In our heart. >> joyce: i thought, "he would not ask me to do that."
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>> joyce: i thought, "he would not ask me to do that." that's just ridiculous
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Not ask me to do that." that's just ridiculous beyond even imagining.
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That's just ridiculous beyond even imagining. but when something is god,
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Beyond even imagining. but when something is god, it just doesn't go away.
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But when something is god, it just doesn't go away. so, every time i would try
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It just doesn't go away. so, every time i would try to pray, that same thing was
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So, every time i would try to pray, that same thing was there, "well, why should
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To pray, that same thing was there, "well, why should i spend my money on taking
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There, "well, why should i spend my money on taking care of somebody who
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I spend my money on taking care of somebody who never did anything for me?"
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Care of somebody who never did anything for me?" and the only thing, i mean,
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Never did anything for me?" and the only thing, i mean, god was cutting me no slack.
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And the only thing, i mean, god was cutting me no slack. he said, "well, you're alive,
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God was cutting me no slack. he said, "well, you're alive, aren't you?"
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He said, "well, you're alive, aren't you?" they gave you, "you're here
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Aren't you?" they gave you, "you're here because of the two of them."
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They gave you, "you're here because of the two of them." and there was no apology.
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Because of the two of them." and there was no apology. i was thinking about
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And there was no apology. i was thinking about this the other night.
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I was thinking about this the other night. we bought them a house,
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This the other night. we bought them a house, we bought them a car,
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We bought them a house, we bought them a car, we paid for their
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We bought them a car, we paid for their lawn to be mowed,
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We paid for their lawn to be mowed, we paid somebody
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Lawn to be mowed, we paid somebody to get their groceries.
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We paid somebody to get their groceries. and i always say this,
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To get their groceries. and i always say this, and people laugh.
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And i always say this, and people laugh. i guess it is funny,
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And people laugh. i guess it is funny, but it's sad, i thought,
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I guess it is funny, but it's sad, i thought, "yeah, i can do this for two,
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But it's sad, i thought, "yeah, i can do this for two, three years," you know?
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"yeah, i can do this for two, three years," you know? but my bloodline has longevity.
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And this turned out
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And this turned out to be a 13-year ordeal,
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And this turned out to be a 13-year ordeal, and then they finally had
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To be a 13-year ordeal, and then they finally had to go into assisted living care.
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And then they finally had to go into assisted living care. and then from there,
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To go into assisted living care. and then from there, they finally had to go
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And then from there, they finally had to go to the nursing home.
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They finally had to go to the nursing home. and i was taking care of my mom,
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To the nursing home. and i was taking care of my mom, my dad, and my widowed aunt,
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And i was taking care of my mom, my dad, and my widowed aunt, who was my mother's sister.
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My dad, and my widowed aunt, who was my mother's sister. and not one of them ever
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Who was my mother's sister. and not one of them ever looked at me and said,
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And not one of them ever looked at me and said, "thank you for putting us here."
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Looked at me and said, "thank you for putting us here." >> ginger: and here you are
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"thank you for putting us here." >> ginger: and here you are thinking, "i'm caring for
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>> ginger: and here you are thinking, "i'm caring for the very people who would
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Not care for me when
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Not care for me when i needed it most."
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Not care for me when i needed it most." >> joyce: you can't do things...
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I needed it most." >> joyce: you can't do things... you have to do them
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>> joyce: you can't do things... you have to do them for the right reason.
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You have to do them for the right reason. you do them because
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For the right reason. you do them because it's what god wants you to do.
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You do them because it's what god wants you to do. and i want everybody
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It's what god wants you to do. and i want everybody to hear this.
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And i want everybody to hear this. you can do the right thing
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To hear this. you can do the right thing and not feel like doing it.
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You can do the right thing and not feel like doing it. you don't have
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And not feel like doing it. you don't have to feel like doing it.
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You don't have to feel like doing it. matter of fact,
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To feel like doing it. matter of fact, i think when you do the right
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Matter of fact, i think when you do the right thing while you feel like
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I think when you do the right thing while you feel like doing the wrong thing,
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Thing while you feel like doing the wrong thing, that is spiritual growth.
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Doing the wrong thing, that is spiritual growth. >> nona: that's worship.
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That is spiritual growth. >> nona: that's worship. and that's so rich, joyce.
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>> nona: that's worship. and that's so rich, joyce. like, it's recognizing who
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And that's so rich, joyce. like, it's recognizing who you're doing it for.
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Like, it's recognizing who you're doing it for. because everything
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You're doing it for. because everything that we do is unto god.
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Because everything that we do is unto god. and i think sometimes
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That we do is unto god. and i think sometimes we get so focused
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And i think sometimes we get so focused on the person that it's like,
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We get so focused on the person that it's like, "well, i'm doing this for you."
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On the person that it's like, "well, i'm doing this for you." it's like, "oh, no, no, no."
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"well, i'm doing this for you." it's like, "oh, no, no, no." actually, i'm sowing seed.
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It's like, "oh, no, no, no." actually, i'm sowing seed. and god has a principle
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Actually, i'm sowing seed. and god has a principle on that seed.
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And god has a principle on that seed. and so, it's like,
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On that seed. and so, it's like, "okay, i'm gonna do this
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And so, it's like, "okay, i'm gonna do this lord because i love you.
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"okay, i'm gonna do this lord because i love you. this isn't about them."
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I remember, as you were talking,
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I remember, as you were talking, i was remembering a conversation
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I remember, as you were talking, i was remembering a conversation i had with my mom once
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I was remembering a conversation i had with my mom once where i was like,
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I had with my mom once where i was like, i just wanted us to have
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Where i was like, i just wanted us to have a mother-daughter relationship.
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I just wanted us to have a mother-daughter relationship. and i was like,
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A mother-daughter relationship. and i was like, "in order to do that,
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And i was like, "in order to do that, we really have to talk about
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"in order to do that, we really have to talk about what happened in my childhood,"
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Because we never
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Because we never talked about it.
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Because we never talked about it. and she didn't wanna
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Talked about it. and she didn't wanna talk about it at all.
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And she didn't wanna talk about it at all. and as a matter of fact,
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Talk about it at all. and as a matter of fact, she said, "well, it wouldn't
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And as a matter of fact, she said, "well, it wouldn't have happened if you
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She said, "well, it wouldn't have happened if you would have just kept
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Have happened if you would have just kept your legs closed."
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Would have just kept your legs closed." >> ginger: oh, my.
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Your legs closed." >> ginger: oh, my. >> nona: that was
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>> ginger: oh, my. >> nona: that was her explanation.
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>> nona: that was her explanation. now, i give you that pretext,
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Her explanation. now, i give you that pretext, because fast forward,
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Now, i give you that pretext, because fast forward, that was when i was maybe 22.
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Because fast forward, that was when i was maybe 22. for years, i've had to support
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That was when i was maybe 22. for years, i've had to support my mother financially.
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For years, i've had to support my mother financially. for years.
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My mother financially. for years. and at the same time,
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For years. and at the same time, while that's happening,
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And at the same time, while that's happening, i'm getting calls from
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While that's happening, i'm getting calls from people saying, "why aren't you
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I'm getting calls from people saying, "why aren't you taking care of your mom?
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People saying, "why aren't you taking care of your mom? and your mom's struggling
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Taking care of your mom? and your mom's struggling and you're not doing
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And your mom's struggling and you're not doing anything for her."
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And you're not doing anything for her." so, she's telling these
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Anything for her." so, she's telling these people all these lies, right?
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So, she's telling these people all these lies, right? but god in that was
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People all these lies, right? but god in that was building character.
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But god in that was building character. because it was like,
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Building character. because it was like, "who are you doing it for?"
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Because it was like, "who are you doing it for?" because if i was
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"who are you doing it for?" because if i was doing it for her,
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Because if i was doing it for her, i guarantee you them checks
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Doing it for her, i guarantee you them checks would have been cut off.
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I guarantee you them checks would have been cut off. but it was like, "no,
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Would have been cut off. but it was like, "no, i'm doing this as unto the lord.
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But it was like, "no, i'm doing this as unto the lord. and god, you've given
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I'm doing this as unto the lord. and god, you've given me the resources
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And god, you've given me the resources to be able to do this.
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Me the resources to be able to do this. and you've given me the grace
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To be able to do this. and you've given me the grace to be able to have peace even
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And you've given me the grace to be able to have peace even when i'm being slandered."
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To be able to have peace even when i'm being slandered." >> ginger: so, what did
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When i'm being slandered." >> ginger: so, what did that do for you?
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>> ginger: so, what did that do for you? i mean, because, obviously,
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That do for you? i mean, because, obviously, it had to be so hard.
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I mean, because, obviously, it had to be so hard. and god doesn't ask
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It had to be so hard. and god doesn't ask us to do what--
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And god doesn't ask us to do what-- when we honor that,
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Us to do what-- when we honor that, god honors us for it, so--
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When we honor that, god honors us for it, so-- >> nona: well, i will
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God honors us for it, so-- >> nona: well, i will tell you this,
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>> nona: well, i will tell you this, i know that it has built
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Tell you this, i know that it has built a pastor's heart in me.
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I know that it has built a pastor's heart in me. because what people don't
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A pastor's heart in me. because what people don't realize is pastoring is hard.
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Because what people don't realize is pastoring is hard. because you give
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Realize is pastoring is hard. because you give all that you can,
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Because you give all that you can, you give all that you have.
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All that you can, you give all that you have. and sometimes
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You give all that you have. and sometimes people will take it all,
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And sometimes people will take it all, and walk away.
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People will take it all, and walk away. and it can be so hurtful.
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And walk away. and it can be so hurtful. but i think what god was doing
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And it can be so hurtful. but i think what god was doing is he was building a pastor's
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But i think what god was doing is he was building a pastor's heart in me to where now--
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Is he was building a pastor's heart in me to where now-- i even had a situation
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Heart in me to where now-- i even had a situation on my team the other day
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I even had a situation on my team the other day where an employee was doing
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On my team the other day where an employee was doing something i didn't appreciate.
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Where an employee was doing something i didn't appreciate. and i was gonna lay
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Something i didn't appreciate. and i was gonna lay into them and all that.
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And i was gonna lay into them and all that. but as i was praying about it,
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Into them and all that. but as i was praying about it, the lord said,
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But as i was praying about it, the lord said, "he needs pastoring."
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The lord said, "he needs pastoring." the lord showed
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"he needs pastoring." the lord showed me there were some mental
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The lord showed me there were some mental and emotional things that
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Me there were some mental and emotional things that were happening with him that
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And emotional things that were happening with him that normally i wouldn't have,
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Were happening with him that normally i wouldn't have, to be honest with you,
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Normally i wouldn't have, to be honest with you, i wouldn't care two cents about.
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To be honest with you, i wouldn't care two cents about. but because of what
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I wouldn't care two cents about. but because of what god was working in me,
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But because of what god was working in me, it softened my heart.
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God was working in me, it softened my heart. and so, i think that's
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It softened my heart. and so, i think that's honestly the reward.
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And so, i think that's honestly the reward. it's not even the stuff.
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Honestly the reward. it's not even the stuff. when i thank god for trusting
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It's not even the stuff. when i thank god for trusting me with platform, influence.
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When i thank god for trusting me with platform, influence. that's great.
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Me with platform, influence. that's great. but the reality is i thank
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That's great. but the reality is i thank god for my heart.
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But the reality is i thank god for my heart. because that matters the most.
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God for my heart. because that matters the most. >> joyce: to be able
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Because that matters the most. >> joyce: to be able to forgive is such a gift.
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>> joyce: to be able to forgive is such a gift. i don't think that people
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To forgive is such a gift. i don't think that people realize what a gift god
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I don't think that people realize what a gift god has given us in giving
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Realize what a gift god has given us in giving us the grace to forgive people.
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Has given us in giving us the grace to forgive people. we couldn't possibly
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Us the grace to forgive people. we couldn't possibly do it if he didn't give
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We couldn't possibly do it if he didn't give us the grace to do it.
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Do it if he didn't give us the grace to do it. and i remember my mother,
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Us the grace to do it. and i remember my mother, she was riding with me one
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And i remember my mother, she was riding with me one day in the car and she said,
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She was riding with me one day in the car and she said, "i'm wanna ask you how
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Day in the car and she said, "i'm wanna ask you how you feel about me."
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"i'm wanna ask you how you feel about me." and i thought, "well,
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You feel about me." and i thought, "well, i'm not gonna lie to her."
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And i thought, "well, i'm not gonna lie to her." and so, i just told her, i said,
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I'm not gonna lie to her." and so, i just told her, i said, "you know what, mom?"
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And so, i just told her, i said, "you know what, mom?" i said, "i don't love you
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"you know what, mom?" i said, "i don't love you like a mother should
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I said, "i don't love you like a mother should love a daughter--
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Like a mother should love a daughter-- i mean, like a daughter should
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Love a daughter-- i mean, like a daughter should love a mother because you
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I mean, like a daughter should love a mother because you didn't really mother me.
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Love a mother because you didn't really mother me. but i love you
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Didn't really mother me. but i love you as a child of god,
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But i love you as a child of god, and i will always make sure
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As a child of god, and i will always make sure that you're taken care of.
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And i will always make sure that you're taken care of. because god has asked
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That you're taken care of. because god has asked me to do that."
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And the bible says that,
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And the bible says that, you know, "you're worse
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And the bible says that, you know, "you're worse than an infidel if you don't
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You know, "you're worse than an infidel if you don't help your own relatives."
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Than an infidel if you don't help your own relatives." and it doesn't say
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Help your own relatives." and it doesn't say if they've been good to you,
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And it doesn't say if they've been good to you, if they've been kind to you.
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It's like--
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It's like-- and i think--
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It's like-- and i think-- this is the way i looked at it.
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And i think-- this is the way i looked at it. i believe that when you forgive,
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This is the way i looked at it. i believe that when you forgive, it increases the anointing
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I believe that when you forgive, it increases the anointing on your life.
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It increases the anointing on your life. >> nona: ooo, talk about it.
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On your life. >> nona: ooo, talk about it. >> joyce: yeah, it increases
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>> nona: ooo, talk about it. >> joyce: yeah, it increases the anointing on your life.
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>> joyce: yeah, it increases the anointing on your life. and i think probably taking
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The anointing on your life. and i think probably taking care of them all those years
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And i think probably taking care of them all those years was the single greatest
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Care of them all those years was the single greatest thing that god has
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Was the single greatest thing that god has given me the grace to do.
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Thing that god has given me the grace to do. and i believe it really
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Given me the grace to do. and i believe it really increased the anointing
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And i believe it really increased the anointing on my life.
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Increased the anointing on my life. >> erin: do you think--
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On my life. >> erin: do you think-- both of your stories make
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>> erin: do you think-- both of your stories make me wonder if there's a process
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Both of your stories make me wonder if there's a process of dying to yourself that
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Me wonder if there's a process of dying to yourself that you both had to go through
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Of dying to yourself that you both had to go through because that is the very last
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You both had to go through because that is the very last thing that you wanted to do?
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Because that is the very last thing that you wanted to do? do you think god uses
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Thing that you wanted to do? do you think god uses that to build humility?
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Do you think god uses that to build humility? is that part of the process
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That to build humility? is that part of the process of our souls being healed?
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Because when you aren't
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Because when you aren't looking out for just
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Because when you aren't looking out for just yourself and you truly have
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Looking out for just yourself and you truly have a posture towards god,
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Yourself and you truly have a posture towards god, which there's nothing more
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A posture towards god, which there's nothing more humble than serving
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Which there's nothing more humble than serving your parents who hurt you,
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Humble than serving your parents who hurt you, that's the most,
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The lord's more--
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The lord's more-- [unintelligible]
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The lord's more-- [unintelligible] >> joyce: especially when they
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[unintelligible] >> joyce: especially when they don't even have the common
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>> joyce: especially when they don't even have the common sense to say, "thank you."
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Don't even have the common sense to say, "thank you." >> erin: exactly.
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Sense to say, "thank you." >> erin: exactly. so, i just wonder,
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>> erin: exactly. so, i just wonder, like is that just part
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So, i just wonder, like is that just part of the process that god
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Like is that just part of the process that god is using to shape
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Of the process that god is using to shape us and mold us?
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Is using to shape us and mold us? >> joyce: what my mother
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Us and mold us? >> joyce: what my mother would say to me, and it was just
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>> joyce: what my mother would say to me, and it was just like, "okay, i can do this."
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Would say to me, and it was just like, "okay, i can do this." she would say,
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Like, "okay, i can do this." she would say, "well, i am your mother.
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She would say, "well, i am your mother. you should take care of me."
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"well, i am your mother. you should take care of me." >> nona: yep, same.
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You should take care of me." >> nona: yep, same. same.
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>> nona: yep, same. same. the entitlement.
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Same. the entitlement. >> joyce: entitlement.
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The entitlement. >> joyce: entitlement. like, she deserved that
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>> joyce: entitlement. like, she deserved that because she was my mother.
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Like, she deserved that because she was my mother. >> nona: i do think there's
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Because she was my mother. >> nona: i do think there's something there,
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>> nona: i do think there's something there, which to be honest,
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Something there, which to be honest, when i reflect on it,
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Which to be honest, when i reflect on it, even sitting here,
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When i reflect on it, even sitting here, i think this whole
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Even sitting here, i think this whole situation has really kept
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I think this whole situation has really kept me near the cross, honestly.
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Situation has really kept me near the cross, honestly. >> joyce: right.
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Me near the cross, honestly. >> joyce: right. >> nona: because there's no way,
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>> joyce: right. >> nona: because there's no way, there's no way i could
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>> nona: because there's no way, there's no way i could do this if i wasn't near jesus.
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There's no way i could do this if i wasn't near jesus. and i'm reminded constantly.
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Do this if i wasn't near jesus. and i'm reminded constantly. like, i sometimes laugh.
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And i'm reminded constantly. like, i sometimes laugh. because you know how god--
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Like, i sometimes laugh. because you know how god-- he's such a straight shooter.
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Because you know how god-- he's such a straight shooter. like, he doesn't cut corners.
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He's such a straight shooter. like, he doesn't cut corners. >> joyce: well, you can
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Like, he doesn't cut corners. >> joyce: well, you can say that again.
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>> joyce: well, you can say that again. >> nona: i remember
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Say that again. >> nona: i remember one time i went to him,
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>> nona: i remember one time i went to him, and i was so angry about
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One time i went to him, and i was so angry about something my mom said,
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And i was so angry about something my mom said, some lies she'd started
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Something my mom said, some lies she'd started in the family or something.
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Some lies she'd started in the family or something. i was so angry.
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In the family or something. i was so angry. and god was like,
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I was so angry. and god was like, "do you realize what
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And god was like, "do you realize what lies did to jesus?
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"do you realize what lies did to jesus? it put him on the cross."
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Lies did to jesus? it put him on the cross." >> joyce: right.
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It put him on the cross." >> joyce: right. >> nona: "crucified."
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>> joyce: right. >> nona: "crucified." like, beaten beyond recognition.
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>> nona: "crucified." like, beaten beyond recognition. >> joyce: right.
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Like, beaten beyond recognition. >> joyce: right. >> nona: "and you're upset
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>> joyce: right. >> nona: "and you're upset because people that you don't
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>> nona: "and you're upset because people that you don't even talk to, listen to a lie
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Because people that you don't even talk to, listen to a lie from someone who has nothing."
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Even talk to, listen to a lie from someone who has nothing." and i was just like, "right."
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From someone who has nothing." and i was just like, "right." >> [ladies laughing]
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And i was just like, "right." >> [ladies laughing] >> nona: "you're right, lord.
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>> [ladies laughing] >> nona: "you're right, lord. let me get myself together."
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>> nona: "you're right, lord. let me get myself together." >> [ladies laughing]
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Let me get myself together." >> [ladies laughing] >> nona: so yeah.
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>> [ladies laughing] >> nona: so yeah. >> ginger: i wanna talk
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>> nona: so yeah. >> ginger: i wanna talk a little bit about the--
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>> ginger: i wanna talk a little bit about the-- with a wound,
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A little bit about the-- with a wound, the shame that often
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With a wound, the shame that often comes with that wound.
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The shame that often comes with that wound. even the loneliness,
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Comes with that wound. even the loneliness, you know,
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Even the loneliness, you know, the result of the wound is often
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You know, the result of the wound is often just so hard to deal with.
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The result of the wound is often just so hard to deal with. and the healing that
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Just so hard to deal with. and the healing that we're talking about,
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And the healing that we're talking about, that god wants to bring,
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We're talking about, that god wants to bring, is healing for every
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That god wants to bring, is healing for every wound of our soul.
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Is healing for every wound of our soul. it's the healing for the shame,
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Wound of our soul. it's the healing for the shame, healing for the loneliness.
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It's the healing for the shame, healing for the loneliness. so, tell me about how
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Healing for the loneliness. so, tell me about how you saw those things
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So, tell me about how you saw those things happen in your lives.
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You saw those things happen in your lives. >> joyce: i think the thing
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Happen in your lives. >> joyce: i think the thing that is so important is like
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>> joyce: i think the thing that is so important is like when we share things like this,
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That is so important is like when we share things like this, then people realize that
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When we share things like this, then people realize that you can come through it.
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Then people realize that you can come through it. you can come out of it.
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You can come through it. you can come out of it. otherwise, what you
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You can come out of it. otherwise, what you hear is--
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Otherwise, what you hear is-- like when i was a kid,
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Hear is-- like when i was a kid, i thought, "well,
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Like when i was a kid, i thought, "well, this is not happening
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I thought, "well, this is not happening to anybody other than me."
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This is not happening to anybody other than me." >> nona: yes, exactly.
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To anybody other than me." >> nona: yes, exactly. >> joyce: "i'm the only person
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>> nona: yes, exactly. >> joyce: "i'm the only person this is happening to."
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>> joyce: "i'm the only person this is happening to." and see, there are so many
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This is happening to." and see, there are so many people watching us that,
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And see, there are so many people watching us that, maybe it wasn't this,
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People watching us that, maybe it wasn't this, but their hurts,
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Maybe it wasn't this, but their hurts, their pain is just as important.
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It's like you said,
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It's like you said, in the beginning,
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It's like you said, in the beginning, everybody's got a story;
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In the beginning, everybody's got a story; and their story is just
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Everybody's got a story; and their story is just as important to them
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And their story is just as important to them as ours is to us.
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As important to them as ours is to us. and the same guidelines apply.
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As ours is to us. and the same guidelines apply. you have to forgive
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And the same guidelines apply. you have to forgive the person that hurt you.
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You have to forgive the person that hurt you. and maybe that person is you.
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The person that hurt you. and maybe that person is you. you know, maybe you
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And maybe that person is you. you know, maybe you fouled your own life
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You know, maybe you fouled your own life up and you're the one that
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Fouled your own life up and you're the one that did a bunch of stuff that
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Up and you're the one that did a bunch of stuff that you shouldn't have done.
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Did a bunch of stuff that you shouldn't have done. god forgives.
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You shouldn't have done. god forgives. but you really can't
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God forgives. but you really can't forgive yourself.
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But you really can't forgive yourself. but in receiving god's love,
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You do forgive yourself.
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You do forgive yourself. >> nona: that's so good.
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You do forgive yourself. >> nona: that's so good. >> joyce: and that's just
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>> nona: that's so good. >> joyce: and that's just as important as forgiving
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>> joyce: and that's just as important as forgiving other people.
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As important as forgiving other people. >> nona: yeah, i once heard--
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Other people. >> nona: yeah, i once heard-- because we tend to talk
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>> nona: yeah, i once heard-- because we tend to talk about guilt and shame like
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Because we tend to talk about guilt and shame like they're the same thing.
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About guilt and shame like they're the same thing. but i once heard them
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They're the same thing. but i once heard them defined as guilt is the idea,
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But i once heard them defined as guilt is the idea, i made a mistake.
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Defined as guilt is the idea, i made a mistake. shame is the idea,
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I made a mistake. shame is the idea, i am a mistake.
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Shame is the idea, i am a mistake. and so, i think a lot of people,
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I am a mistake. and so, i think a lot of people, even those who are listening
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And so, i think a lot of people, even those who are listening to this are probably just--
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Even those who are listening to this are probably just-- you don't even realize that
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To this are probably just-- you don't even realize that you're carrying shame,
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You don't even realize that you're carrying shame, but it's this sense that life
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You're carrying shame, but it's this sense that life would have been better.
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But it's this sense that life would have been better. >> joyce: that was a real
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Would have been better. >> joyce: that was a real revelation for me.
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>> joyce: that was a real revelation for me. like brought me into
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Revelation for me. like brought me into a deeper level of healing.
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Like brought me into a deeper level of healing. because it's one thing
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A deeper level of healing. because it's one thing to be ashamed of what's
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Because it's one thing to be ashamed of what's happening to you,
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To be ashamed of what's happening to you, it's another thing
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Happening to you, it's another thing to be ashamed of yourself
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It's another thing to be ashamed of yourself because it's happening to you.
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To be ashamed of yourself because it's happening to you. >> nona: yes, and for years,
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Because it's happening to you. >> nona: yes, and for years, like i think about my marriage--
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>> nona: yes, and for years, like i think about my marriage-- my husband and i,
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Like i think about my marriage-- my husband and i, we'd been married
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My husband and i, we'd been married 20 years at this point,
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We'd been married 20 years at this point, and i didn't tell him for years
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20 years at this point, and i didn't tell him for years what happened to me.
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And i didn't tell him for years what happened to me. because i thought that what
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What happened to me. because i thought that what happened to me made
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Because i thought that what happened to me made me damaged goods.
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Happened to me made me damaged goods. and i carried
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Me damaged goods. and i carried the weight of that like,
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And i carried the weight of that like, "no one can ever find out.
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The weight of that like, "no one can ever find out. i'm not gonna tell anybody."
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But i will say, joyce,
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But i will say, joyce, part of your ministry
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But i will say, joyce, part of your ministry that's been such a blessing
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Part of your ministry that's been such a blessing to me is you were
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That's been such a blessing to me is you were probably the first
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To me is you were probably the first person i ever heard say,
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Probably the first person i ever heard say, "this thing happened to me."
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And i remember,
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And i remember, even being young in ministry,
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And i remember, even being young in ministry, and hearing that and being like,
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Even being young in ministry, and hearing that and being like, "well, if that happened to her,
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And hearing that and being like, "well, if that happened to her, but look at what god
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"well, if that happened to her, but look at what god has done in her life,
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But look at what god has done in her life, maybe that's possible for me."
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Has done in her life, maybe that's possible for me." >> joyce: i think i was one
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Maybe that's possible for me." >> joyce: i think i was one of the first people to start
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>> joyce: i think i was one of the first people to start talking about this publicly.
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Of the first people to start talking about this publicly. and i hope and pray that it has
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Talking about this publicly. and i hope and pray that it has really helped a lot of people,
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And i hope and pray that it has really helped a lot of people, because i hate it when people
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Really helped a lot of people, because i hate it when people think that they just have
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Because i hate it when people think that they just have to put up with what--the shame
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Think that they just have to put up with what--the shame and the blame of what
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To put up with what--the shame and the blame of what somebody else did to them.
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And the blame of what somebody else did to them. you know, when the israelites,
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Somebody else did to them. you know, when the israelites, when they were gonna
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You know, when the israelites, when they were gonna march around jericho,
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When they were gonna march around jericho, the walls were gonna fall.
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March around jericho, the walls were gonna fall. prior to that,
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The walls were gonna fall. prior to that, joshua said that they
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Prior to that, joshua said that they needed to cleanse themself
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Joshua said that they needed to cleanse themself and "roll away the reproach"
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Needed to cleanse themself and "roll away the reproach" because they were going
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And "roll away the reproach" because they were going to enter the promised land
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Because they were going to enter the promised land and they couldn't go in with
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To enter the promised land and they couldn't go in with that reproach.
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And they couldn't go in with that reproach. and if you look up the word
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That reproach. and if you look up the word "reproach," it means: shame,
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And if you look up the word "reproach," it means: shame, blame, and guilt.
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"reproach," it means: shame, blame, and guilt. >> ginger: yeah.
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Blame, and guilt. >> ginger: yeah. >> nona: you know
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>> ginger: yeah. >> nona: you know what's interesting?
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>> nona: you know what's interesting? i've had people ask me,
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What's interesting? i've had people ask me, because i've written about
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I've had people ask me, because i've written about my story, like it's out there.
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Because i've written about my story, like it's out there. i've had people say,
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My story, like it's out there. i've had people say, "how can you be so transparent?
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I've had people say, "how can you be so transparent? i could never do that."
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"how can you be so transparent? i could never do that." and then people will say,
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I could never do that." and then people will say, "well, have you
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And then people will say, "well, have you gone to therapy?"
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"well, have you gone to therapy?" >> [joyce chuckling]
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Gone to therapy?" >> [joyce chuckling] >> nona: no.
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>> [joyce chuckling] >> nona: no. like honestly,
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>> nona: no. like honestly, what has healed
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Like honestly, what has healed me is telling my story.
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What has healed me is telling my story. and i find a way,
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Me is telling my story. and i find a way, in almost every message,
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And i find a way, in almost every message, to lift that up because
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In almost every message, to lift that up because what i believe is that
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To lift that up because what i believe is that shame is like mold.
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What i believe is that shame is like mold. it grows in the dark.
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Shame is like mold. it grows in the dark. and so, it's what we don't
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It grows in the dark. and so, it's what we don't say that ends up having
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And so, it's what we don't say that ends up having power over us.
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Say that ends up having power over us. and so, my healing has truly
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Power over us. and so, my healing has truly come through allowing
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And so, my healing has truly come through allowing the light of jesus to be shined
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Come through allowing the light of jesus to be shined on the part of my life
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The light of jesus to be shined on the part of my life that i would much rather
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On the part of my life that i would much rather have just kept hidden.
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That i would much rather have just kept hidden. but if i did that,
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Have just kept hidden. but if i did that, i would be in bondage.
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But if i did that, i would be in bondage. >> joyce: it's our secrets
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I would be in bondage. >> joyce: it's our secrets that make us sick.
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>> joyce: it's our secrets that make us sick. it's not the things
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That make us sick. it's not the things that you open up.
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It's not the things that you open up. and i thank god that he has
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That you open up. and i thank god that he has made me so open.
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And i thank god that he has made me so open. i tell everything.
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Made me so open. i tell everything. people say, "you don't
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I tell everything. people say, "you don't wanna be friends with joyce
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People say, "you don't wanna be friends with joyce if you don't want everybody
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Wanna be friends with joyce if you don't want everybody knowing everything about you,"
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If you don't want everybody knowing everything about you," because i'll probably tell
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Knowing everything about you," because i'll probably tell it unless you tell me not to.
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Because i'll probably tell it unless you tell me not to. >> nona: right.
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It unless you tell me not to. >> nona: right. same.
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>> nona: right. same. my team is like,
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Same. my team is like, "you don't have to say that."
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My team is like, "you don't have to say that." "yes, i do."
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"you don't have to say that." "yes, i do." [chuckling]
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"yes, i do." [chuckling] >> joyce: we're so afraid
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[chuckling] >> joyce: we're so afraid for anybody to find
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>> joyce: we're so afraid for anybody to find out things about us.
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For anybody to find out things about us. and really, it's the truth
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Out things about us. and really, it's the truth that's bringing things out
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And really, it's the truth that's bringing things out in the open that sets you free.
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That's bringing things out in the open that sets you free. >> ginger: the funny thing
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In the open that sets you free. >> ginger: the funny thing is joyce will tell me something.
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>> ginger: the funny thing is joyce will tell me something. and not that they're
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Is joyce will tell me something. and not that they're any big deal or anything,
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And not that they're any big deal or anything, but she'll say,
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Any big deal or anything, but she'll say, "now, don't share this."
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But she'll say, "now, don't share this." and i would never
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"now, don't share this." and i would never break a confidence.
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And i would never break a confidence. i would never share anything.
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But i'll just wait for her
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But i'll just wait for her to tell everyone herself.
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But i'll just wait for her to tell everyone herself. >> [ladies laughing]
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To tell everyone herself. >> [ladies laughing] >> nona: now we can share it.
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>> [ladies laughing] >> nona: now we can share it. >> ginger: now it's free game.
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>> nona: now we can share it. >> ginger: now it's free game. >> [ladies laughing]
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>> ginger: now it's free game. >> [ladies laughing] >> joyce: "no,
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>> [ladies laughing] >> joyce: "no, i won't share it, joyce,
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>> joyce: "no, i won't share it, joyce, 'cause you will."
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I won't share it, joyce, 'cause you will." >> nona: but that's
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'cause you will." >> nona: but that's so freeing though.
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>> nona: but that's so freeing though. >> ginger: it is.
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And when we can open
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And when we can open the door to secrets,
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And when we can open the door to secrets, then it really opens
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The door to secrets, then it really opens the door to healing
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Then it really opens the door to healing to flow in at the same time.
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The door to healing to flow in at the same time. the dirt, the shame,
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To flow in at the same time. the dirt, the shame, the disgust with ourselves,
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The dirt, the shame, the disgust with ourselves, all those things begin
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The disgust with ourselves, all those things begin to flow out because god's spirit
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All those things begin to flow out because god's spirit is coming in and healing us.
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To flow out because god's spirit is coming in and healing us. >> joyce: one of the reasons
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Is coming in and healing us. >> joyce: one of the reasons why people don't wanna tell
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>> joyce: one of the reasons why people don't wanna tell anybody is because there's
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Why people don't wanna tell anybody is because there's so few people that you can
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Anybody is because there's so few people that you can trust with your secrets.
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So few people that you can trust with your secrets. >> ladies: true.
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Trust with your secrets. >> ladies: true. >> joyce: and we need
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>> ladies: true. >> joyce: and we need to be the kind of people
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>> joyce: and we need to be the kind of people that if somebody tells
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To be the kind of people that if somebody tells us something private,
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That if somebody tells us something private, that we shouldn't
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Us something private, that we shouldn't even need to be told,
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That we shouldn't even need to be told, "don't tell it."
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Even need to be told, "don't tell it." you just don't tell it unless
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"don't tell it." you just don't tell it unless they've told you to tell it.
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You just don't tell it unless they've told you to tell it. and we need to be more faithful
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They've told you to tell it. and we need to be more faithful to one another in that area.
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And we need to be more faithful to one another in that area. >> ginger: because
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To one another in that area. >> ginger: because so many wounds come
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>> ginger: because so many wounds come from betrayal like that.
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>> nona: absolutely.
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>> nona: absolutely. >> erin: what you said shows
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>> nona: absolutely. >> erin: what you said shows that it's a ripple effect.
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>> erin: what you said shows that it's a ripple effect. when we are willing
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That it's a ripple effect. when we are willing to be vulnerable and share
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When we are willing to be vulnerable and share our story, then that gives
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To be vulnerable and share our story, then that gives somebody else the--
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Our story, then that gives somebody else the-- almost like a power inside
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Somebody else the-- almost like a power inside of themselves to share
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Almost like a power inside of themselves to share their own story.
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Of themselves to share their own story. and look at what you have done
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Their own story. and look at what you have done to so many of us who feel
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And look at what you have done to so many of us who feel confident to share because
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To so many of us who feel confident to share because we saw how god has healed you.
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Confident to share because we saw how god has healed you. so, i think that's amazing
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We saw how god has healed you. so, i think that's amazing how that healing
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So, i think that's amazing how that healing can be so shareable.
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How that healing can be so shareable. that's amazing how
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Can be so shareable. that's amazing how god works that.
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That's amazing how god works that. >> joyce: it amazes
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God works that. >> joyce: it amazes me because when i think about
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>> joyce: it amazes me because when i think about or talk about all the things
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Me because when i think about or talk about all the things that happened to me,
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It's almost like i'm talking
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It's almost like i'm talking about somebody i used
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It's almost like i'm talking about somebody i used to know a long time ago.
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About somebody i used to know a long time ago. >> nona: absolutely.
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To know a long time ago. >> nona: absolutely. i agree.
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>> nona: absolutely. i agree. >> joyce: god does make
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I agree. >> joyce: god does make us new creatures.
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>> joyce: god does make us new creatures. >> nona: and it goes to show
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Us new creatures. >> nona: and it goes to show the power of our testimony,
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>> nona: and it goes to show the power of our testimony, how we are overcomers.
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The power of our testimony, how we are overcomers. and i think that's honestly,
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How we are overcomers. and i think that's honestly, why the enemy intimidates
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And i think that's honestly, why the enemy intimidates us into silence.
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Why the enemy intimidates us into silence. and one of the tactics
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Us into silence. and one of the tactics that he's used, and he's even
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And one of the tactics that he's used, and he's even tried it on me, is, "but well,
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That he's used, and he's even tried it on me, is, "but well, what will people say?"
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Tried it on me, is, "but well, what will people say?" "what will people think?"
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What will people say?" "what will people think?" let me tell you something.
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"what will people think?" let me tell you something. when i got over that,
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Let me tell you something. when i got over that, i believe that that's when
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When i got over that, i believe that that's when the floodgates opened
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I believe that that's when the floodgates opened in my own life in ministry,
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The floodgates opened in my own life in ministry, is when i got over being
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In my own life in ministry, is when i got over being concerned about what people
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Is when i got over being concerned about what people are gonna say and gonna
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Concerned about what people are gonna say and gonna think and all that, it's like,
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Are gonna say and gonna think and all that, it's like, "you know what, devil?
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Think and all that, it's like, "you know what, devil? you have no authority
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"you know what, devil? you have no authority in my life.
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You have no authority in my life. you are the keeper of secrets.
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In my life. you are the keeper of secrets. you are the one who wants
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You are the keeper of secrets. you are the one who wants to keep things in the darkness."
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You are the one who wants to keep things in the darkness." and so, i just encourage
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To keep things in the darkness." and so, i just encourage people that if you
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And so, i just encourage people that if you have a story to tell--
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People that if you have a story to tell-- of course, prayerfully,
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Have a story to tell-- of course, prayerfully, like, we're not gonna shout
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Of course, prayerfully, like, we're not gonna shout it from the mountaintops
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Like, we're not gonna shout it from the mountaintops if that's not what god
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It from the mountaintops if that's not what god calls you to do.
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If that's not what god calls you to do. but if god gives you
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Calls you to do. but if god gives you the opportunity to do that, man!
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But if god gives you the opportunity to do that, man! there are some people
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The opportunity to do that, man! there are some people in this world--i believe this,
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There are some people in this world--i believe this, who, your voice is the key
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In this world--i believe this, who, your voice is the key to their freedom.
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Who, your voice is the key to their freedom. like, there is something
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To their freedom. like, there is something about you and your voice
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Like, there is something about you and your voice and what god's called you to do.
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About you and your voice and what god's called you to do. they can hear me,
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And what god's called you to do. they can hear me, they can hear all of us,
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They can hear me, they can hear all of us, and they'll be unmoved.
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They can hear all of us, and they'll be unmoved. but if they hear your voice,
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And they'll be unmoved. but if they hear your voice, it'll break something in them,
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But if they hear your voice, it'll break something in them, and we have to let god use that.
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It'll break something in them, and we have to let god use that. >> ginger: yeah,
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And we have to let god use that. >> ginger: yeah, and it not only,
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>> ginger: yeah, and it not only, does that for
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And it not only, does that for those other people,
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Does that for those other people, but it brings more healing
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Those other people, but it brings more healing to us at the same time,
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But it brings more healing to us at the same time, like you just said.
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To us at the same time, like you just said. that's how he worked
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Like you just said. that's how he worked in your life.
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Isaiah 61:7 says,
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Isaiah 61:7 says, "instead of your former shame,
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Isaiah 61:7 says, "instead of your former shame, you shall have a twofold
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"instead of your former shame, you shall have a twofold recompense.
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You shall have a twofold recompense. instead of dishonor
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Recompense. instead of dishonor and reproach,
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Instead of dishonor and reproach, you shall rejoice
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And reproach, you shall rejoice in their portion.
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You shall rejoice in their portion. therefore,
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In their portion. therefore, in their land,
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Therefore, in their land, they shall possess double
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In their land, they shall possess double what they had forfeited.
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They shall possess double what they had forfeited. everlasting joy
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What they had forfeited. everlasting joy shall be theirs."
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Everlasting joy shall be theirs." >> joyce: ooo, i like that
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Shall be theirs." >> joyce: ooo, i like that double, double.
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>> joyce: ooo, i like that double, double. >> ginger: oh, it's so good.
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And it tells you that
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And it tells you that as hard as it is--
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And it tells you that as hard as it is-- 'cause it's painful.
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As hard as it is-- 'cause it's painful. healing is a painful
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'cause it's painful. healing is a painful process sometimes.
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Healing is a painful process sometimes. but if we hold on and we move
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Process sometimes. but if we hold on and we move forward and we allow god
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But if we hold on and we move forward and we allow god to do what he wants to do,
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Forward and we allow god to do what he wants to do, there's so much good ahead
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To do what he wants to do, there's so much good ahead in all of that.
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There's so much good ahead in all of that. >> joyce: you know, we always
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In all of that. >> joyce: you know, we always say that healing is painful,
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>> joyce: you know, we always say that healing is painful, and it is, but it's not nearly
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Say that healing is painful, and it is, but it's not nearly as painful as hanging on to.
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And it is, but it's not nearly as painful as hanging on to. >> ginger: that is very true.
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As painful as hanging on to. >> ginger: that is very true. that is so true.
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>> ginger: that is very true. that is so true. >> joyce: because at least
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That is so true. >> joyce: because at least the pain of healing is bringing
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>> joyce: because at least the pain of healing is bringing you into a better place.
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The pain of healing is bringing you into a better place. the pain of just
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You into a better place. the pain of just continuing to hide,
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The pain of just continuing to hide, and keep it, and let it fester,
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Continuing to hide, and keep it, and let it fester, that's something that never
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And keep it, and let it fester, that's something that never does anything positive for you.
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That's something that never does anything positive for you. >> ginger: yeah.
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Does anything positive for you. >> ginger: yeah. well, i'd love, as we're
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>> ginger: yeah. well, i'd love, as we're doing all this, to just throw
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Well, i'd love, as we're doing all this, to just throw in something about projectgrl,
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Doing all this, to just throw in something about projectgrl, because that's what you've
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In something about projectgrl, because that's what you've done with your pain,
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Because that's what you've done with your pain, is you've had such a burden
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Done with your pain, is you've had such a burden to help women and girls
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Is you've had such a burden to help women and girls through situations
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To help women and girls through situations like you're talking about,
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Through situations like you're talking about, helping them to know how
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Like you're talking about, helping them to know how valuable they are in christ
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Helping them to know how valuable they are in christ and helping them with
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Valuable they are in christ and helping them with physical needs so that
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And helping them with physical needs so that they can even see that
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Physical needs so that they can even see that value and accept who
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They can even see that value and accept who jesus says they are.
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Value and accept who jesus says they are. and so, you know,
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Jesus says they are. and so, you know, i just think that's really
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And so, you know, i just think that's really important that you took
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I just think that's really important that you took your pain and you're using
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Important that you took your pain and you're using it to help women and girls
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Your pain and you're using it to help women and girls all over the world and allowing
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It to help women and girls all over the world and allowing us all to be part of it too.
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All over the world and allowing us all to be part of it too. so, that's something that you
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Us all to be part of it too. so, that's something that you probably never saw coming
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So, that's something that you probably never saw coming out of anything that was going
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Probably never saw coming out of anything that was going on in your life, but god said,
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Out of anything that was going on in your life, but god said, "i'm gonna turn
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On in your life, but god said, "i'm gonna turn it around and use it for
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"i'm gonna turn it around and use it for something wonderful."
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It around and use it for something wonderful." >> joyce: yeah.
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Something wonderful." >> joyce: yeah. you can't just look
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>> joyce: yeah. you can't just look at somebody's pain and say,
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You can't just look at somebody's pain and say, "oh, that's too bad,"
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At somebody's pain and say, "oh, that's too bad," and not do anything
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"oh, that's too bad," and not do anything if you can do something.
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And not do anything if you can do something. sometimes you can't.
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If you can do something. sometimes you can't. but if you can,
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Sometimes you can't. but if you can, then you should.
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But if you can, then you should. >> ginger: absolutely,
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Then you should. >> ginger: absolutely, absolutely.
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>> ginger: absolutely, absolutely. so, if you wanna find out more
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Absolutely. so, if you wanna find out more about how you can do that too,
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So, if you wanna find out more about how you can do that too, if you have been healed,
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About how you can do that too, if you have been healed, if you want more
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If you have been healed, if you want more healing in your life,
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If you want more healing in your life, these are important things
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Healing in your life, these are important things to reach out to someone else
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These are important things to reach out to someone else because you felt that same pain.
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Go to, let me see,
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Go to, let me see, let me find it here,
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Go to, let me see, let me find it here, projectgrl.org
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Let me find it here, projectgrl.org and you can find out
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Projectgrl.org and you can find out all the information.
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And you can find out all the information. and then, you can also go to:
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Joycemeyer/talkitout
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Joycemeyer/talkitout and find out more
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Joycemeyer/talkitout and find out more of our other episodes
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And find out more of our other episodes that we've had on healing.
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Of our other episodes that we've had on healing. and there's just so much there.
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That we've had on healing. and there's just so much there. there's so much richness
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And there's just so much there. there's so much richness and so much that god
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There's so much richness and so much that god wants to do in your life.
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And so much that god wants to do in your life. and we just pray for you.
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Wants to do in your life. and we just pray for you. can i just pray for you,
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And we just pray for you. can i just pray for you, now, as we close?
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Can i just pray for you, now, as we close? i just pray in jesus' name
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Now, as we close? i just pray in jesus' name that as you begin to look
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I just pray in jesus' name that as you begin to look at yourself in a different way,
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That as you begin to look at yourself in a different way, father, just open their
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At yourself in a different way, father, just open their hearts to who they are.
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Father, just open their hearts to who they are. open their hearts to your love,
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Hearts to who they are. open their hearts to your love, to what you want to do.
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Open their hearts to your love, to what you want to do. open their hearts so those
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To what you want to do. open their hearts so those secrets can just fly out
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Open their hearts so those secrets can just fly out and be healed by you,
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Secrets can just fly out and be healed by you, that you can restore,
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And be healed by you, that you can restore, give them double for what
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That you can restore, give them double for what was taken from them and use
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Give them double for what was taken from them and use that to help other people.
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Was taken from them and use that to help other people. father, we pray for complete
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That to help other people. father, we pray for complete healing in jesus' name
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Father, we pray for complete healing in jesus' name for all of our friends.
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Healing in jesus' name for all of our friends. >> ginger: amen.
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For all of our friends. >> ginger: amen. >> joyce: amen.
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>> ginger: amen. >> joyce: amen. >> ginger: nona, thank you.
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>> joyce: amen. >> ginger: nona, thank you. >> nona: this is such a joy.
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>> ginger: nona, thank you. >> nona: this is such a joy. >> ginger: it's been
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>> nona: this is such a joy. >> ginger: it's been so wonderful having you with us.
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>> ginger: it's been so wonderful having you with us. >> nona: this has been
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So wonderful having you with us. >> nona: this has been just such a privilege.
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>> nona: this has been just such a privilege. i know we could talk
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Just such a privilege. i know we could talk for literally 12 hours.
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I know we could talk for literally 12 hours. >> ginger: we could.
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For literally 12 hours. >> ginger: we could. we could talk for a long time.
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>> ginger: we could. we could talk for a long time. and unfortunately,
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We could talk for a long time. and unfortunately, we are out of time,
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And unfortunately, we are out of time, so we're gonna have
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We are out of time, so we're gonna have to hold on the celine dion.
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So we're gonna have to hold on the celine dion. >> nona: aw.
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To hold on the celine dion. >> nona: aw. >> ginger: maybe next time.
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>> nona: aw. >> ginger: maybe next time. >> nona: my heart
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>> ginger: maybe next time. >> nona: my heart will not go on.
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>> nona: my heart will not go on. [clearing throat]
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Will not go on. [clearing throat] >> ginger: yeah, you be ready.
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[clearing throat] >> ginger: yeah, you be ready. >> nona: i'm so ready.
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>> ginger: yeah, you be ready. >> nona: i'm so ready. >> joyce: ♪ my heart
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>> nona: i'm so ready. >> joyce: ♪ my heart will go on ♪
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>> joyce: ♪ my heart will go on ♪ >> ginger: there we go!
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Will go on ♪ >> ginger: there we go! we have it!
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>> ginger: there we go! we have it! >> erin: i've been waiting
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We have it! >> erin: i've been waiting for that for five years.
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>> erin: i've been waiting for that for five years. >> joyce: yeah,
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For that for five years. >> joyce: yeah, that's all you're gettin'.
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>> joyce: yeah, that's all you're gettin'. >> [ladies laughing]
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>> announcer: from story time
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>> announcer: from story time to self-care,
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To self-care, or snack time
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Or snack time to scrolling all night.
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To scrolling all night. the way we close out one day
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The way we close out one day makes a difference
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Makes a difference on how we feel the next.
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On how we feel the next. set yourself up for spiritual
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Set yourself up for spiritual success by spending
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Success by spending a few moments with god.
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>> ginger: what's
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>> ginger: what's your nighttime
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Your nighttime routine like?
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Routine like? we all need
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We all need to make time for
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To make time for god in our day.
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God in our day. and there's no
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And there's no sweeter way to drift
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Sweeter way to drift into dreamland than
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Into dreamland than with the peace that
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With the peace that comes from spending
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Comes from spending time with our
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Time with our heavenly father.
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Heavenly father. that's why
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That's why joyce meyer wrote
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Joyce meyer wrote this devotional,
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This devotional, "ending your
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"ending your day right."
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Day right." >> announcer: "ending
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>> announcer: "ending your day right,"
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Your day right," is a 365-night
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Is a 365-night devotional.
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Devotional. each short page gives
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Each short page gives you something to think
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You something to think about as you wind down
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About as you wind down from your busy day.
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From your busy day. each entry is dated,
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Each entry is dated, so read the one marked
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So read the one marked for the specific day,
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For the specific day, or start at the beginning
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Or start at the beginning and read your way through.
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And read your way through. "ending your day right"
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"ending your day right" is available right now,
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Is available right now, for your gift
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For your gift of any amount.
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Of any amount. call us today at...
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Call us today at... or visit joycemeyer.org.
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Or visit joycemeyer.org. >> joyce: you're making
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>> joyce: you're making a mistake if you
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A mistake if you don't spend quiet
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Don't spend quiet time with god.
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Time with god. i said, you're making
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I said, you're making a mistake if you
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A mistake if you don't spend quiet
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Don't spend quiet time with god.
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Time with god. amen?
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Amen? >> [audience applauding]
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: you don't always
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>> joyce: you don't always have to be talking.
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Have to be talking. you don't always have
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You don't always have to be doing something.
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To be doing something. sometimes just to sit
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Sometimes just to sit there and be quiet
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There and be quiet is like healing
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Is like healing for your soul.
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For your soul. we live in the midst
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We live in the midst of such a noisy
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Of such a noisy world today.
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World today. always gotta have
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Always gotta have something going on.
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Something going on. tv's gotta be on,
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Tv's gotta be on, radio's gotta be on,
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Radio's gotta be on, gotta have music on...
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Gotta have music on... gotta have our
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Gotta have our phone there,
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Phone there, goodness sakes,
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Goodness sakes, somebody might
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Somebody might call us and the
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Call us and the world would end,
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World would end, if we weren't there
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If we weren't there to answer their call.
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To answer their call. >> announcer: small
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>> announcer: small steps can make a big
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Steps can make a big difference in our life,
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Difference in our life, from our attitude
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From our attitude to our relationships
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To our relationships and beyond.
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And beyond. >> ginger: spend a few
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>> ginger: spend a few minutes with our
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Minutes with our heavenly father each
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Heavenly father each night and see how
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Night and see how much your world
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Much your world can change.
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Can change. the "ending your day
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The "ending your day right" devotional
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Right" devotional is available for
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Is available for your gift of
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Your gift of any amount using
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Any amount using the information
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The information on your screen.
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On your screen. that gift, along
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That gift, along with the gifts from
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With the gifts from the partners of
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The partners of joyce meyer ministries,
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Joyce meyer ministries, will make a difference
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Will make a difference around the world by
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Around the world by helping to provide
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Helping to provide food and medical care
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Food and medical care to those in need.
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To those in need. >> announcer: before you turn
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>> announcer: before you turn off the light, a page a night
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Off the light, a page a night can help you sleep tight.
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Can help you sleep tight. "ending your day right"
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"ending your day right" is available for your gift
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Of any amount, right now. call us today at...
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Call us today at... or visit joycemeyer.org.
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>> ginger: real life.
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>> ginger: real life. real friends.
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Real friends. no pretense.
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No pretense. joyce meyer's
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Joyce meyer's talk it out podcast.
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Talk it out podcast. join joyce, erin cluley,
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Join joyce, erin cluley, and me, ginger stache,
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And me, ginger stache, along with some amazing friends,
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Along with some amazing friends, as we honestly share
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As we honestly share the hard stuff,
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The hard stuff, laugh through those
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Laugh through those unpredictable moments,
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Unpredictable moments, and learn to apply what
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And learn to apply what god says about it all.
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God says about it all. watch or listen to new
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Watch or listen to new episodes every other tuesday,
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Episodes every other tuesday, wherever you get your podcast.
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>> announcer: tomorrow on
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>> announcer: tomorrow on "enjoying everyday life."
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>> joyce: the same way
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>> joyce: the same way that you received christ,
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That you received christ, that's the same way
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That's the same way you should live your life.
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You should live your life. now, what kind of condition were
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Now, what kind of condition were you in when you received christ?
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>> announcer: that's tomorrow
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>> announcer: that's tomorrow on "enjoying everyday life."
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On "enjoying everyday life." we'll see you then.
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>> announcer: 3, 2, 1.
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>> [♪♪]
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>> announcer: we hope you
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>> announcer: we hope you enjoyed today's program.
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Enjoyed today's program. we are so grateful
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We are so grateful to our joyce meyer
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To our joyce meyer ministries partners
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Ministries partners who make this
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Who make this and all we do possible,
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And all we do possible, including sharing
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Including sharing god's word
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God's word and offering help
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And offering help to people in need
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To people in need all over the world.
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Joyce Meyer - Life Beyond Hurt (Part 2)

August 6, 2025 | 29:29

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