Joyce Meyer - Less Is More This Christmas (Part 1)

December 23, 2025 | 29:29

Bible teacher Joyce Meyer shares timeless scriptural principles to show us how we can embrace the best God has for us each and every day of our lives.

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Joyce Meyer: Enjoying Everyday Life | Joyce Meyer - Less Is More This Christmas (Part 1) | December 23, 2025

>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer.
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer. i've seen god's power
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>> joyce: i'm joyce meyer. i've seen god's power transform my own life,
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I've seen god's power transform my own life, and he will do it for you.
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>> ginger: hello, everyone,
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>> ginger: hello, everyone, and welcome
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>> ginger: hello, everyone, and welcome to "enjoying everyday life."
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And welcome to "enjoying everyday life." i hope that you are enjoying
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To "enjoying everyday life." i hope that you are enjoying the holiday season these days.
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I hope that you are enjoying the holiday season these days. and of course, we all know that
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The holiday season these days. and of course, we all know that in the midst of all of the fun
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And of course, we all know that in the midst of all of the fun and the things that come
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In the midst of all of the fun and the things that come along with the holiday season
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And the things that come along with the holiday season can also come a lot of stress
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Along with the holiday season can also come a lot of stress and long to-do lists.
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Can also come a lot of stress and long to-do lists. so, today we're diving
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And long to-do lists. so, today we're diving in on how to keep our
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So, today we're diving in on how to keep our attention on what matters most.
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In on how to keep our attention on what matters most. so, i hope that you'll join me,
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Attention on what matters most. so, i hope that you'll join me, joyce, erin cluley,
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So, i hope that you'll join me, joyce, erin cluley, and holly wagner for
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Joyce, erin cluley, and holly wagner for a reminder that less is more,
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And holly wagner for a reminder that less is more, especially at christmas.
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>> ginger: we have
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>> ginger: we have the best group of women here
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>> ginger: we have the best group of women here that you could ever ask for,
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The best group of women here that you could ever ask for, and as you join us--
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That you could ever ask for, and as you join us-- >> joyce: well, that's true.
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And as you join us-- >> joyce: well, that's true. >> [erin and holly laughing]
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>> joyce: well, that's true. >> [erin and holly laughing] >> ginger: exactly,
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>> [erin and holly laughing] >> ginger: exactly, what else could we need?
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>> ginger: exactly, what else could we need? we've got joyce, we've got
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What else could we need? we've got joyce, we've got erin and holly wagner with us.
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>> erin: yay!
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>> erin: yay! >> ginger: it's so good
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>> erin: yay! >> ginger: it's so good to have you back.
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>> ginger: it's so good to have you back. >> ginger: we love having
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To have you back. >> ginger: we love having you with us.
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>> ginger: we love having you with us. >> holly: i love being here.
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You with us. >> holly: i love being here. it's like talking
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>> holly: i love being here. it's like talking to the girlfriends.
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It's like talking to the girlfriends. it's the best.
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To the girlfriends. it's the best. >> ginger: yes.
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It's the best. >> ginger: yes. well, this is christmas season.
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>> ginger: yes. well, this is christmas season. so, everybody's...
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Well, this is christmas season. so, everybody's... >> holly: didn't you feel like
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So, everybody's... >> holly: didn't you feel like it came fast to you?
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>> holly: didn't you feel like it came fast to you? >> ginger: hurrying around.
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It came fast to you? >> ginger: hurrying around. you know, it comes so quickly.
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>> ginger: hurrying around. you know, it comes so quickly. >> erin: it does, every year.
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You know, it comes so quickly. >> erin: it does, every year. >> ginger: it's like time flies.
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So, yeah, everybody's hustling
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So, yeah, everybody's hustling and bustling and trying
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So, yeah, everybody's hustling and bustling and trying to do all the fun stuff
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And bustling and trying to do all the fun stuff and get all the work done.
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To do all the fun stuff and get all the work done. and so, we thought we'd talk
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And get all the work done. and so, we thought we'd talk a little bit about christmas
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And so, we thought we'd talk a little bit about christmas with maybe a different
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A little bit about christmas with maybe a different attitude and maybe not missing
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Out on some of the miracle
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Out on some of the miracle moments that we might
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Out on some of the miracle moments that we might glaze over as we're trying
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Moments that we might glaze over as we're trying to be too busy.
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Glaze over as we're trying to be too busy. so, how do you guys feel
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To be too busy. so, how do you guys feel about christmas?
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So, how do you guys feel about christmas? just honest answers:
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About christmas? just honest answers: "i love it.
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Just honest answers: "i love it. i feel a little overwhelmed.
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"i love it. i feel a little overwhelmed. i'm ambivalent."
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I feel a little overwhelmed. i'm ambivalent." what do you guys think?
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I'm ambivalent." what do you guys think? erin: i love it so much.
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What do you guys think? erin: i love it so much. next.
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Erin: i love it so much. next. >> [ginger laughing]
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>> holly: no, me too.
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>> holly: no, me too. i'm all in.
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>> holly: no, me too. i'm all in. >> ginger: yeah?
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I'm all in. >> ginger: yeah? >> holly: i'm all in.
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>> ginger: yeah? >> holly: i'm all in. i love it.
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>> holly: i'm all in. i love it. i love decorating the house.
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I love it. i love decorating the house. i love having lights
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I love decorating the house. i love having lights on the outside.
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I love having lights on the outside. you know, i put my lights on.
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On the outside. you know, i put my lights on. are you ready for this?
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You know, i put my lights on. are you ready for this? like november 1st.
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Are you ready for this? like november 1st. like it's--
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Like november 1st. like it's-- the house is decorated
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November 1st.
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November 1st. >> erin: no thanksgiving.
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November 1st. >> erin: no thanksgiving. you just go straight
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>> erin: no thanksgiving. you just go straight to christmas.
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You just go straight to christmas. >> holly: i go straight
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To christmas. >> holly: i go straight to christmas.
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>> holly: i go straight to christmas. >> erin: oh, i like it.
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To christmas. >> erin: oh, i like it. >> holly: because i love it.
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>> erin: oh, i like it. >> holly: because i love it. i love it so much.
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>> holly: because i love it. i love it so much. and so, i'm like,
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I love it so much. and so, i'm like, "why wouldn't i have it up for
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And so, i'm like, "why wouldn't i have it up for two months then?"
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"why wouldn't i have it up for two months then?" >> ginger: and that's more
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Two months then?" >> ginger: and that's more and more common.
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>> ginger: and that's more and more common. >> erin: it is.
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And more common. >> erin: it is. >> holly: it is?
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>> erin: it is. >> holly: it is? okay, then i don't feel so bad.
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>> holly: it is? okay, then i don't feel so bad. >> erin: do you do that?
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Okay, then i don't feel so bad. >> erin: do you do that? do you decorate for
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>> erin: do you do that? do you decorate for christmas early?
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>> joyce: well, i have it done.
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>> joyce: well, i have it done. >> [ladies laughing]
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>> joyce: well, i have it done. >> [ladies laughing] >> holly: do you want me to come
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>> [ladies laughing] >> holly: do you want me to come to your house november 1st,
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>> holly: do you want me to come to your house november 1st, joyce?
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>> joyce: i don't exactly get
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>> joyce: i don't exactly get on the roof, and hang lights.
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>> joyce: i don't exactly get on the roof, and hang lights. >> [ladies laughing]
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On the roof, and hang lights. >> [ladies laughing] >> erin: you're not hanging
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>> [ladies laughing] >> erin: you're not hanging up those lights up there
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>> erin: you're not hanging up those lights up there on the top?
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Up those lights up there on the top? >> joyce: i love christmas.
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On the top? >> joyce: i love christmas. i think that--
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>> joyce: i love christmas. i think that-- i think there's a huge
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I think that-- i think there's a huge problem though with
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I think there's a huge problem though with people forgetting what
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Problem though with people forgetting what christmas is really about.
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People forgetting what christmas is really about. and it just gets
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Christmas is really about. and it just gets so commercialized.
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And it just gets so commercialized. and that's what i would
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So commercialized. and that's what i would like to see people slow down
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And that's what i would like to see people slow down enough to really pay
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Like to see people slow down enough to really pay attention to the savior
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Enough to really pay attention to the savior that is born then,
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Attention to the savior that is born then, or was born then.
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That is born then, or was born then. >> [ladies agreeing]
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>> erin: i had that thought
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>> erin: i had that thought last year because i've got
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>> erin: i had that thought last year because i've got little kids and so they have
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Last year because i've got little kids and so they have so many activities and there's
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Little kids and so they have so many activities and there's just all this fun stuff
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So many activities and there's just all this fun stuff to do with them.
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Just all this fun stuff to do with them. but we got to the point
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I thought,
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I thought, "i bet that if i asked
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I thought, "i bet that if i asked them why they're so excited
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"i bet that if i asked them why they're so excited about christmas,
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Them why they're so excited about christmas, their first answer is not
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About christmas, their first answer is not going to be jesus."
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Their first answer is not going to be jesus." >> joyce: it's gonna
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Going to be jesus." >> joyce: it's gonna be santa claus.
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>> joyce: it's gonna be santa claus. >> erin: yeah, it is.
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Be santa claus. >> erin: yeah, it is. and so, just made me think,
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>> erin: yeah, it is. and so, just made me think, what am i teaching them by how
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And so, just made me think, what am i teaching them by how i'm acting during this season?
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What am i teaching them by how i'm acting during this season? so, it's an important
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I'm acting during this season? so, it's an important conversation to have.
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So, it's an important conversation to have. >> joyce: it's good.
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Conversation to have. >> joyce: it's good. it's good.
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>> joyce: it's good. it's good. >> ginger: i remember when our
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It's good. >> ginger: i remember when our grandson went to preschool
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>> ginger: i remember when our grandson went to preschool for the first time and actually
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Grandson went to preschool for the first time and actually heard about santa claus.
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For the first time and actually heard about santa claus. he didn't know what santa was.
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Heard about santa claus. he didn't know what santa was. and it's not because
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He didn't know what santa was. and it's not because we try to avoid it
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And it's not because we try to avoid it or anything like that.
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He was just little,
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He was just little, and it hadn't been
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He was just little, and it hadn't been a big deal at their house.
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And it hadn't been a big deal at their house. and then he was like amazed
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A big deal at their house. and then he was like amazed like, "how could i not
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And then he was like amazed like, "how could i not know about this gift-giving
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Like, "how could i not know about this gift-giving man for so long?"
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Know about this gift-giving man for so long?" it just changed
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Man for so long?" it just changed everything for him.
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It just changed everything for him. >> erin: that's so cute.
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Everything for him. >> erin: that's so cute. >> ginger: but it is so
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>> erin: that's so cute. >> ginger: but it is so different for families to try
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>> ginger: but it is so different for families to try to figure out how to balance
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Different for families to try to figure out how to balance all of that, how to have
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To figure out how to balance all of that, how to have a great time and make it
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All of that, how to have a great time and make it a magical season and keep
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A great time and make it a magical season and keep the focus where it needs to be.
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A magical season and keep the focus where it needs to be. and sometimes it can
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The focus where it needs to be. and sometimes it can be stressful, especially
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And sometimes it can be stressful, especially if maybe things are different
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Be stressful, especially if maybe things are different for you this year.
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If maybe things are different for you this year. like if you've had a loss
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For you this year. like if you've had a loss in your family or you're going
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Like if you've had a loss in your family or you're going through some difficulties
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In your family or you're going through some difficulties or if your family is gonna
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Get together and you're
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Get together and you're not looking forward to it.
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Get together and you're not looking forward to it. >> joyce: [laughing]
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Not looking forward to it. >> joyce: [laughing] oh, that wouldn't happen.
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>> joyce: [laughing] oh, that wouldn't happen. >> [ladies laughing]
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Oh, that wouldn't happen. >> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: all those things
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: all those things that people deal with.
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>> ginger: all those things that people deal with. so, we're gonna start off
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That people deal with. so, we're gonna start off by asking people if they're
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So, we're gonna start off by asking people if they're a martha or a mary.
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By asking people if they're a martha or a mary. so, here's joyce teaching
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A martha or a mary. so, here's joyce teaching about the important difference
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So, here's joyce teaching about the important difference of not letting important
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About the important difference of not letting important things pass you by because
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Of not letting important things pass you by because you're so busy.
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Things pass you by because you're so busy. and then we'll get real
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You're so busy. and then we'll get real practical on how to avoid
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And then we'll get real practical on how to avoid some of those traps.
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>> joyce: in luke chapter 10,
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>> joyce: in luke chapter 10, beginning at verse 38,
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>> joyce: in luke chapter 10, beginning at verse 38, we have this story
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Beginning at verse 38, we have this story that we call, "mary and martha."
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We have this story that we call, "mary and martha." and some of you here today
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That we call, "mary and martha." and some of you here today would be more like mary,
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And some of you here today would be more like mary, and some of you would be
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Would be more like mary, and some of you would be more like martha.
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And some of you would be more like martha. i, of course, am like martha.
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And here's what we see.
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And here's what we see. "now while they were
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And here's what we see. "now while they were on their way,
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"now while they were on their way, it occurred that jesus entered
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On their way, it occurred that jesus entered a certain village,
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It occurred that jesus entered a certain village, and a woman named martha
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A certain village, and a woman named martha received and welcomed him
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And a woman named martha received and welcomed him into her house."
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Received and welcomed him into her house." she had a good heart.
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Into her house." she had a good heart. she even had a personal
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She had a good heart. she even had a personal relationship with jesus.
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She even had a personal relationship with jesus. they were friends.
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She was glad he was there,
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She was glad he was there, but i'm gettin' ready
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But i'm gettin' ready to show you
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To show you that she didn't know
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That she didn't know how to enjoy him.
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How to enjoy him. she was too busy
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She was too busy fixin' everything so
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Fixin' everything so it was just the way
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It was just the way she thought it should be
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She thought it should be to actually enjoy him
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Now, i don't know about you,
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But when i have company--
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But when i have company-- >> [audience member
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But when i have company-- >> [audience member unintelligible]
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>> [audience member unintelligible] >> [joyce laughing]
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Unintelligible] >> [joyce laughing] >> [audience laughing]
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>> [joyce laughing] >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: when i have company,
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: when i have company, sometimes i'm so caught up
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>> joyce: when i have company, sometimes i'm so caught up in trying to take care of
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Sometimes i'm so caught up in trying to take care of everything for the party that
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In trying to take care of everything for the party that i never get around to enjoying
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Everything for the party that i never get around to enjoying the people that are there.
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I never get around to enjoying the people that are there. and i overdo most things.
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The people that are there. and i overdo most things. i've usually got enough food
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And i overdo most things. i've usually got enough food to last for three days
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I've usually got enough food to last for three days after they're gone.
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To last for three days after they're gone. >> [audience laughing]
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After they're gone. >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: and martha didn't know
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: and martha didn't know how to party either,
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>> joyce: and martha didn't know how to party either, and enjoy it.
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How to party either, and enjoy it. "and she had a sister
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And enjoy it. "and she had a sister named mary, who seated herself
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"and she had a sister named mary, who seated herself at the lord's feet and
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Named mary, who seated herself at the lord's feet and was listening to his teaching."
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At the lord's feet and was listening to his teaching." now, mary had the ability to
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Was listening to his teaching." now, mary had the ability to adjust and recognize what was
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Now, mary had the ability to adjust and recognize what was the most important thing
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Adjust and recognize what was the most important thing at the moment.
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The most important thing at the moment. are you listening to me?
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At the moment. are you listening to me? what was the most
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Are you listening to me? what was the most important thing at the moment,
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What was the most important thing at the moment, and she knew
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Important thing at the moment, and she knew how to submit some things
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And she knew how to submit some things to more important things,
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How to submit some things to more important things, and then get back
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To more important things, and then get back to those other things
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And then get back to those other things when she needed to.
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To those other things when she needed to. do you know that so many people,
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When she needed to. do you know that so many people, when they go out in the world,
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Do you know that so many people, when they go out in the world, they are so focused
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When they go out in the world, they are so focused on what they wanna do
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They are so focused on what they wanna do and their plan, that we miss
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On what they wanna do and their plan, that we miss so many what could be
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And their plan, that we miss so many what could be miraculous moments to speak
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So many what could be miraculous moments to speak a word in due season
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Miraculous moments to speak a word in due season to somebody,
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A word in due season to somebody, to help somebody,
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To somebody, to help somebody, to smile at somebody,
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To help somebody, to smile at somebody, to give somebody
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To smile at somebody, to give somebody a compliment?
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To give somebody a compliment? and i don't know if you've ever
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A compliment? and i don't know if you've ever heard me teach this or not,
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And i don't know if you've ever heard me teach this or not, but i started
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Heard me teach this or not, but i started about two years ago
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But i started about two years ago praying for what i call,
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About two years ago praying for what i call, "the gift of awareness,"
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Praying for what i call, "the gift of awareness," that i'm aware
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"the gift of awareness," that i'm aware of what's going on around me,
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That i'm aware of what's going on around me, that i'm aware
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Of what's going on around me, that i'm aware of what god is doing.
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That i'm aware of what god is doing. there is so many things
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Of what god is doing. there is so many things that god is doing
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There is so many things that god is doing in our lives that are
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That god is doing in our lives that are so magnificent,
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In our lives that are so magnificent, and yet we can get so focused
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So magnificent, and yet we can get so focused on this project we have.
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And yet we can get so focused on this project we have. we don't want to miss the
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On this project we have. we don't want to miss the miracle of the moment, amen?
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"but martha [overly occupied
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"but martha [overly occupied and too busy]
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"but martha [overly occupied and too busy] was distracted
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And too busy] was distracted with much serving;
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Was distracted with much serving; and came up to him and said,
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With much serving; and came up to him and said, 'lord, is it nothing to you
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And came up to him and said, 'lord, is it nothing to you that my sister has left me
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'lord, is it nothing to you that my sister has left me to serve alone?'"
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That my sister has left me to serve alone?'" now she's even got
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To serve alone?'" now she's even got a bad attitude because mary
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Is enjoying herself
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Is enjoying herself and she's not.
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Is enjoying herself and she's not. and i don't know about you,
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And she's not. and i don't know about you, but i was really bad about that.
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And i don't know about you, but i was really bad about that. if i was working, i wanted
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But i was really bad about that. if i was working, i wanted everybody to work.
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If i was working, i wanted everybody to work. >> [audience laughing]
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Everybody to work. >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: and if i was working,
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: and if i was working, and dave was enjoying watchin'
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>> joyce: and if i was working, and dave was enjoying watchin' a football game,
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And dave was enjoying watchin' a football game, i didn't like it
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A football game, i didn't like it that i was working,
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I didn't like it that i was working, so i worked very loud.
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That i was working, so i worked very loud. >> [audience laughing]
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So i worked very loud. >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: do you any
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: do you any of you ladies know anything
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>> joyce: do you any of you ladies know anything about working loud?
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Of you ladies know anything about working loud? >> [audience applauding]
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About working loud? >> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and, of course,
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>> [audience applauding] >> joyce: and, of course, dave just kinda--
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>> joyce: and, of course, dave just kinda-- he's just so cute.
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Dave just kinda-- he's just so cute. he just kinda lives
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He's just so cute. he just kinda lives in his own little world.
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He just kinda lives in his own little world. >> [audience laughing]
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In his own little world. >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: and i would march back
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: and i would march back and forth through the room
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>> joyce: and i would march back and forth through the room where he was at,
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And forth through the room where he was at, draggin' the vacuum sweeper
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Where he was at, draggin' the vacuum sweeper with me,
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Draggin' the vacuum sweeper with me, and huffin' and puffin',
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With me, and huffin' and puffin', and slammin' doors and drawers,
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And huffin' and puffin', and slammin' doors and drawers, and he just didn't--
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And slammin' doors and drawers, and he just didn't-- >> [audience laughing]
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And he just didn't-- >> [audience laughing] >> joyce: "honey,
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>> [audience laughing] >> joyce: "honey, if you're goin' to the kitchen,
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>> joyce: "honey, if you're goin' to the kitchen, could you bring me an iced tea?"
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If you're goin' to the kitchen, could you bring me an iced tea?" >> [audience laughing]
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>> [ladies laughing]
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: so, joyce,
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: so, joyce, that's such a great example
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>> ginger: so, joyce, that's such a great example and such a fun story.
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That's such a great example and such a fun story. how have you adapted
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And such a fun story. how have you adapted over the years?
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How have you adapted over the years? >> joyce: who says i have?
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Over the years? >> joyce: who says i have? >> [ladies laughing]
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>> joyce: who says i have? >> [ladies laughing] >> joyce: i'd probably tell
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>> [ladies laughing] >> joyce: i'd probably tell dave now, "get up and get
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>> joyce: i'd probably tell dave now, "get up and get your own tea."
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Dave now, "get up and get your own tea." >> [ladies laughing]
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Your own tea." >> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: but i understand
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: but i understand what you're saying,
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>> ginger: but i understand what you're saying, love the idea of "working loud."
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What you're saying, love the idea of "working loud." so that, you know--
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Love the idea of "working loud." so that, you know-- a lot of sighs.
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So that, you know-- a lot of sighs. >> joyce: i wanted to make
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A lot of sighs. >> joyce: i wanted to make sure he knew i was working.
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>> joyce: i wanted to make sure he knew i was working. i never impressed him with
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Sure he knew i was working. i never impressed him with that at all.
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I never impressed him with that at all. >> erin: i told mike yesterday--
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That at all. >> erin: i told mike yesterday-- i said, "one of the things
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>> erin: i told mike yesterday-- i said, "one of the things that drives women the most
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I said, "one of the things that drives women the most crazy is when you take naps."
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That drives women the most crazy is when you take naps." >> [joyce laughing]
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Crazy is when you take naps." >> [joyce laughing] >> erin: "like i cannot stand
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>> [joyce laughing] >> erin: "like i cannot stand when you take a nap because
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>> erin: "like i cannot stand when you take a nap because do you not see all of the things
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When you take a nap because do you not see all of the things i need to do and you're just
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Do you not see all of the things i need to do and you're just laying on the couch taking
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I need to do and you're just laying on the couch taking a nap in the middle of the day?"
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Laying on the couch taking a nap in the middle of the day?" >> holly: no, i'm with you
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A nap in the middle of the day?" >> holly: no, i'm with you on that one.
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>> holly: no, i'm with you on that one. >> erin: yes, thank you.
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On that one. >> erin: yes, thank you. >> holly: because philip can
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>> erin: yes, thank you. >> holly: because philip can do that.
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>> holly: because philip can do that. he can take a 45-minute
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Do that. he can take a 45-minute nap and i'm like, "do you
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He can take a 45-minute nap and i'm like, "do you understand the things that
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Nap and i'm like, "do you understand the things that need to happen around here?"
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Understand the things that need to happen around here?" so, now he has a t-shirt that
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Need to happen around here?" so, now he has a t-shirt that says, "jesus took naps.
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So, now he has a t-shirt that says, "jesus took naps. be more like jesus."
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>> erin: i'm gonna buy that.
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>> erin: i'm gonna buy that. >> holly: and i never want
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>> holly: and i never want to see that shirt.
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To see that shirt. >> [ladies laughing]
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>> [ladies laughing] >> erin: no, no.
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>> erin: no, no. >> ginger: tim can nod off
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>> ginger: tim can nod off and fall asleep
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And fall asleep at any given moment.
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At any given moment. so, he can take a two-minute
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So, he can take a two-minute power nap, or he can take
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Power nap, or he can take an hour nap and he's just
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>> erin: oh, i wish i could
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Do that.
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Do that. >> ginger: yeah, but i am--
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Do that. >> ginger: yeah, but i am-- you're talking about martha
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>> ginger: yeah, but i am-- you're talking about martha or mary--
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You're talking about martha or mary-- i am more of a mary.
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Or mary-- i am more of a mary. like, i like to make wonderful
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I am more of a mary. like, i like to make wonderful experiences for people.
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Like, i like to make wonderful experiences for people. but once we get there,
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Experiences for people. but once we get there, you know, i am really all about
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But once we get there, you know, i am really all about enjoying that experience.
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You know, i am really all about enjoying that experience. and that's why at our family
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Enjoying that experience. and that's why at our family gatherings i'm not allowed
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And that's why at our family gatherings i'm not allowed to bring anything other than
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Gatherings i'm not allowed to bring anything other than paper goods because--
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To bring anything other than paper goods because-- >> erin: but you bring
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Paper goods because-- >> erin: but you bring fancy ones.
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>> erin: but you bring fancy ones. >> ginger: they know,
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Fancy ones. >> ginger: they know, [laughing]
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>> ginger: they know, [laughing] i'm not--i'm not a cook.
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[laughing] i'm not--i'm not a cook. i'm not gonna do
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I'm not--i'm not a cook. i'm not gonna do all those things.
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I'm not gonna do all those things. i'm just gonna sit around
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All those things. i'm just gonna sit around and make the party fun.
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I'm just gonna sit around and make the party fun. so, they're a benefit.
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And make the party fun. so, they're a benefit. don't you think we need
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So, they're a benefit. don't you think we need both of those?
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Don't you think we need both of those? we need those things
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Both of those? we need those things to come together.
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We need those things to come together. >> holly: yes.
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To come together. >> holly: yes. >> ginger: but it's when
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>> holly: yes. >> ginger: but it's when we get out of balance
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>> ginger: but it's when we get out of balance that it's a problem.
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>> joyce: you need a good mix.
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>> joyce: you need a good mix. you know, jesus didn't
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>> joyce: you need a good mix. you know, jesus didn't tell martha not to work.
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You know, jesus didn't tell martha not to work. he told her not to worry.
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Tell martha not to work. he told her not to worry. >> ginger: yeah.
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He told her not to worry. >> ginger: yeah. >> erin: so, a motive has
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A lot to do with it.
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A lot to do with it. >> joyce: yeah.
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A lot to do with it. >> joyce: yeah. >> holly: yeah, and she's
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>> joyce: yeah. >> holly: yeah, and she's the one that invited him.
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>> holly: yeah, and she's the one that invited him. >> joyce: yeah.
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The one that invited him. >> joyce: yeah. >> holly: so, it was her idea,
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>> joyce: yeah. >> holly: so, it was her idea, right?
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>> holly: so, it was her idea, right? to have him there so if you're
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Right? to have him there so if you're gonna invite people over,
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To have him there so if you're gonna invite people over, there's a little bit
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Gonna invite people over, there's a little bit of both needed.
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There's a little bit of both needed. >> ginger: yeah.
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Of both needed. >> ginger: yeah. absolutely.
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>> ginger: yeah. absolutely. >> joyce: and she was jealous
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Absolutely. >> joyce: and she was jealous of mary doing something
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>> joyce: and she was jealous of mary doing something that she was free to do.
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Of mary doing something that she was free to do. but just--
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That she was free to do. but just-- and obviously there was
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But just-- and obviously there was a certain amount of preparation
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And obviously there was a certain amount of preparation that needed to be made.
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A certain amount of preparation that needed to be made. but she apparently was
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That needed to be made. but she apparently was going way overboard,
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But she apparently was going way overboard, or jesus wouldn't have
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Going way overboard, or jesus wouldn't have said to her what he did.
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Or jesus wouldn't have said to her what he did. >> erin: i could see myself
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Said to her what he did. >> erin: i could see myself being like that, if jesus was
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>> erin: i could see myself being like that, if jesus was coming to my home to--
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Being like that, if jesus was coming to my home to-- and like what you said,
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Coming to my home to-- and like what you said, "preparing is good."
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And like what you said, "preparing is good." he is coming to your home.
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"preparing is good." he is coming to your home. so, to be prepared
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He is coming to your home. so, to be prepared and get your home ready,
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So, to be prepared and get your home ready, and that's so good.
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And get your home ready, and that's so good. i could see myself--
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And that's so good. i could see myself-- >> ginger: oh, my goodness,
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I could see myself-- >> ginger: oh, my goodness, can you imagine?
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>> ginger: oh, my goodness, can you imagine? >> erin: no, the pressure.
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Can you imagine? >> erin: no, the pressure. >> [ladies laughing]
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>> erin: no, the pressure. >> [ladies laughing] >> erin: no,
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>> [ladies laughing] >> erin: no, "jesus is coming to my home."
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>> erin: no, "jesus is coming to my home." >> ginger: "it's jesus!"
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"jesus is coming to my home." >> ginger: "it's jesus!" >> joyce: we have to--
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>> ginger: "it's jesus!" >> joyce: we have to-- we have to impress him.
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>> joyce: we have to-- we have to impress him. >> holly: we have to use
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We have to impress him. >> holly: we have to use the good silver and bring
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>> holly: we have to use the good silver and bring out the good towels.
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The good silver and bring out the good towels. >> erin: yes.
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Out the good towels. >> erin: yes. but then i think
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>> erin: yes. but then i think i could see myself just getting
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But then i think i could see myself just getting caught in that because some
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I could see myself just getting caught in that because some of that's my nature is just
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Caught in that because some of that's my nature is just to strive and to prove
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Of that's my nature is just to strive and to prove that like, "i have done
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To strive and to prove that like, "i have done all i can and i'm gonna
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That like, "i have done all i can and i'm gonna continue to work to earn
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All i can and i'm gonna continue to work to earn your validation that--"
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Continue to work to earn your validation that--" >> ginger: that's really
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Your validation that--" >> ginger: that's really a key there, isn't it?
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>> ginger: that's really a key there, isn't it? >> erin: yeah.
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A key there, isn't it? >> erin: yeah. where i'm missing something.
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>> joyce: so, we want people
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>> joyce: so, we want people to enjoy this christmas season
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>> joyce: so, we want people to enjoy this christmas season and not just try so hard
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To enjoy this christmas season and not just try so hard to make every little thing
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And not just try so hard to make every little thing just right that they forget
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To make every little thing just right that they forget what it's all about.
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Just right that they forget what it's all about. and you know,
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During the christmas season,
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During the christmas season, it's different for
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During the christmas season, it's different for different people,
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It's different for different people, but let's just say that you've
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Different people, but let's just say that you've always had a tradition
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But let's just say that you've always had a tradition in your family of everybody
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Always had a tradition in your family of everybody gets together at mom's house
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In your family of everybody gets together at mom's house for christmas.
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Gets together at mom's house for christmas. but now you have four or five
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For christmas. but now you have four or five kids of your own and they're
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But now you have four or five kids of your own and they're getting to the point where
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Kids of your own and they're getting to the point where they're grown and you kind
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Getting to the point where they're grown and you kind of really want to have
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They're grown and you kind of really want to have your own christmas.
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Of really want to have your own christmas. but it's so hard to tell
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Your own christmas. but it's so hard to tell mom because she's gonna
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But it's so hard to tell mom because she's gonna to get her feelings hurt.
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Mom because she's gonna to get her feelings hurt. and so, we've worked it out
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To get her feelings hurt. and so, we've worked it out in our family to where
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And so, we've worked it out in our family to where we have our family christmas
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In our family to where we have our family christmas before christmas.
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We have our family christmas before christmas. so, then, each of the families
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Before christmas. so, then, each of the families can have their own christmas
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So, then, each of the families can have their own christmas on christmas eve
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Can have their own christmas on christmas eve or christmas day.
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On christmas eve or christmas day. and you know,
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Or christmas day. and you know, a lot of it is just a mindset.
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It's just a mental adaptation.
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It's just a mental adaptation. it's like, who says it has
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It's just a mental adaptation. it's like, who says it has to be on a certain day?
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It's like, who says it has to be on a certain day? you know, and so i think
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To be on a certain day? you know, and so i think there's a lot of--
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You know, and so i think there's a lot of-- there's a lot of pressure
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That people can put
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That people can put on their children
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That people can put on their children to be somewhere.
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On their children to be somewhere. and i told my kids from
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To be somewhere. and i told my kids from the get-go when they started,
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And i told my kids from the get-go when they started, different ones of 'em
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The get-go when they started, different ones of 'em getting married.
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Different ones of 'em getting married. i said, "you do not--
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Getting married. i said, "you do not-- i'm not pressuring
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I said, "you do not-- i'm not pressuring you to do anything.
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I'm not pressuring you to do anything. we'll work something out
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You to do anything. we'll work something out if you need to be at your
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We'll work something out if you need to be at your in-laws' house then you
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If you need to be at your in-laws' house then you be at your in-laws house.
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In-laws' house then you be at your in-laws house. i don't want you
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Be at your in-laws house. i don't want you to feel pressured.
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I don't want you to feel pressured. we don't--we don't have to--"
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To feel pressured. we don't--we don't have to--" >> ginger: that would
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We don't--we don't have to--" >> ginger: that would relieve a lot of people's
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>> ginger: that would relieve a lot of people's angst at christmas.
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>> holly: yeah, just like
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>> holly: yeah, just like my daughter and her husband,
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>> holly: yeah, just like my daughter and her husband, he--when they got married,
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My daughter and her husband, he--when they got married, he had two little girls.
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He--when they got married, he had two little girls. and so, there's this
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He had two little girls. and so, there's this blended family now.
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And so, there's this blended family now. and so, then that
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Blended family now. and so, then that changes some of the dynamics.
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And so, then that changes some of the dynamics. so, you have to be flexible.
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Changes some of the dynamics. so, you have to be flexible. to your point, it doesn't
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So, you have to be flexible. to your point, it doesn't have to be on the day.
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To your point, it doesn't have to be on the day. it's about the season.
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Have to be on the day. it's about the season. it's about jesus.
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It's about the season. it's about jesus. so celebrate it a different
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It's about jesus. so celebrate it a different day as opposed to being
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So celebrate it a different day as opposed to being so adamant.
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Day as opposed to being so adamant. >> joyce: right.
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So adamant. >> joyce: right. >> holly: you know,
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>> joyce: right. >> holly: you know, if you need to.
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>> holly: you know, if you need to. and then, now,
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If you need to. and then, now, she's a 911 operator,
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And then, now, she's a 911 operator, so she's not always gonna
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She's a 911 operator, so she's not always gonna get christmas day off, right?
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So she's not always gonna get christmas day off, right? so, just being--
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Get christmas day off, right? so, just being-- just learning
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So, just being-- just learning to be flexible,
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Just learning to be flexible, and relax with it.
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>> ginger: i'll tell you
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>> ginger: i'll tell you my terrible story.
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>> ginger: i'll tell you my terrible story. i'll just share my shame
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My terrible story. i'll just share my shame openly with you.
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I'll just share my shame openly with you. >> holly: good because--
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Openly with you. >> holly: good because-- should i give my notepad out?
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>> holly: good because-- should i give my notepad out? >> ginger: [laughing]
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Should i give my notepad out? >> ginger: [laughing] yeah, yeah.
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>> ginger: [laughing] yeah, yeah. sometimes, joyce, you know
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Yeah, yeah. sometimes, joyce, you know how much i love you.
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Sometimes, joyce, you know how much i love you. and i just wish that you
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How much i love you. and i just wish that you wouldn't say some of the things
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And i just wish that you wouldn't say some of the things that you say in your books
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Wouldn't say some of the things that you say in your books that make me feel,
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That you say in your books that make me feel, you know, condemned when i--
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That make me feel, you know, condemned when i-- >> [ladies laughing]
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You know, condemned when i-- >> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: when i should
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: when i should feel convicted.
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>> ginger: when i should feel convicted. [laughing]
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Feel convicted. [laughing] >> joyce: oh, i thought i was
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[laughing] >> joyce: oh, i thought i was trying to cheer people up.
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>> joyce: oh, i thought i was trying to cheer people up. >> ginger: [laughing]
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Trying to cheer people up. >> ginger: [laughing] no, you're absolutely right.
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>> ginger: [laughing] no, you're absolutely right. and so, one of the things
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No, you're absolutely right. and so, one of the things around the holidays
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And so, one of the things around the holidays is we were trying to figure
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Around the holidays is we were trying to figure out what to do for the holiday.
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Is we were trying to figure out what to do for the holiday. and we live in four
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Out what to do for the holiday. and we live in four different states, right?
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And we live in four different states, right? so, my husband and i and then
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Different states, right? so, my husband and i and then one set of daughter and family
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So, my husband and i and then one set of daughter and family and the other set of daughter
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One set of daughter and family and the other set of daughter and family and then all of our
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And the other set of daughter and family and then all of our parents and the rest of our
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And family and then all of our parents and the rest of our family, four different states.
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Parents and the rest of our family, four different states. and so, we were talking
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Family, four different states. and so, we were talking about what to do
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And so, we were talking about what to do and where to meet.
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About what to do and where to meet. and i crave that time, you know,
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And where to meet. and i crave that time, you know, with the kids and with,
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And i crave that time, you know, with the kids and with, with everybody together.
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With the kids and with, with everybody together. and one of our daughters says,
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With everybody together. and one of our daughters says, "well, let's go to indiana
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And one of our daughters says, "well, let's go to indiana and be with the grandparents."
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"well, let's go to indiana and be with the grandparents." and the first thing,
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And be with the grandparents." and the first thing, i was like, "why do--why?!
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And the first thing, i was like, "why do--why?! this is my time with you."
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I was like, "why do--why?! this is my time with you." >> [ladies laughing]
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This is my time with you." >> [ladies laughing] >> holly: oh that,
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>> [ladies laughing] >> holly: oh that, "what about me," came out?
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>> holly: oh that, "what about me," came out? is that what happened?
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"what about me," came out? is that what happened? >> ginger: [laughing]
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Is that what happened? >> ginger: [laughing] exactly, thank you.
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>> ginger: [laughing] exactly, thank you. i literally was reading,
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Exactly, thank you. i literally was reading, "what about me?"
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I literally was reading, "what about me?" it's like, "she's so right!"
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"what about me?" it's like, "she's so right!" >> joyce: i have a book
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It's like, "she's so right!" >> joyce: i have a book for every problem.
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>> joyce: i have a book for every problem. >> erin: oh, you do, you do.
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For every problem. >> erin: oh, you do, you do. >> ginger: yes, yes,
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>> erin: oh, you do, you do. >> ginger: yes, yes, and so, i was like,
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>> ginger: yes, yes, and so, i was like, "how grateful am i that
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And so, i was like, "how grateful am i that my kids want to be with
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"how grateful am i that my kids want to be with their grandparents?"
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My kids want to be with their grandparents?" what a beautiful thing.
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Their grandparents?" what a beautiful thing. and how much it means
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What a beautiful thing. and how much it means to the grandparents.
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And how much it means to the grandparents. >> holly: yes.
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To the grandparents. >> holly: yes. >> ginger: so that's a much
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>> holly: yes. >> ginger: so that's a much better answer.
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>> ginger: so that's a much better answer. but for me, it was like,
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Better answer. but for me, it was like, "but that's gonna take more
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But for me, it was like, "but that's gonna take more of my time away from them."
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And so, i really had to deal
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And so, i really had to deal with that and not to expect
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With that and not to expect it to be all about me.
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It to be all about me. and yeah, adjust.
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And yeah, adjust. and--
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And-- >> joyce: all it is,
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>> joyce: all it is, is a mind adjustment.
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Is a mind adjustment. >> holly: it is.
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>> holly: it is. no, you're exactly right.
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No, you're exactly right. >> joyce: like you just--
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>> joyce: like you just-- >> holly: i think there's like
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>> holly: i think there's like even some of the practical
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Even some of the practical things is that this--
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Things is that this-- that time of year,
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That time of year, there's dozens
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There's dozens of school plays and school
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And then you've got
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Office parties.
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Office parties. >> joyce: exactly.
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Office parties. >> joyce: exactly. >> holly: and all these
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>> joyce: exactly. >> holly: and all these parties that you feel
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>> holly: and all these parties that you feel this obligation to go to.
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Parties that you feel this obligation to go to. and so, let's just give people
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This obligation to go to. and so, let's just give people permission to say, "no".
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And so, let's just give people permission to say, "no". [chuckling]
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Permission to say, "no". [chuckling] >> ginger: yeah.
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[chuckling] >> ginger: yeah. >> holly: right?
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>> ginger: yeah. >> holly: right? so that you're not running
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>> holly: right? so that you're not running from one party to the next.
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So that you're not running from one party to the next. and then you're trying
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From one party to the next. and then you're trying to get all your shopping--
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And then you're trying to get all your shopping-- it's just [shoo]
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To get all your shopping-- it's just [shoo] just slow it down.
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It's just [shoo] just slow it down. >> erin: as a recipient of what
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Just slow it down. >> erin: as a recipient of what you all are talking about.
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>> erin: as a recipient of what you all are talking about. so, as a mom with little
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You all are talking about. so, as a mom with little kids who--
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So, as a mom with little kids who-- grandparents want to see,
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Kids who-- grandparents want to see, i cannot tell you what
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Grandparents want to see, i cannot tell you what it means to not have that
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I cannot tell you what it means to not have that pressure on because my family
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It means to not have that pressure on because my family and mike's family are operating
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Pressure on because my family and mike's family are operating the way that you guys
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And mike's family are operating the way that you guys are talking about.
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The way that you guys are talking about. and to hear my friends
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Are talking about. and to hear my friends talk about like the drama
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And to hear my friends talk about like the drama that comes along with having
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Talk about like the drama that comes along with having to set boundaries with family
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That comes along with having to set boundaries with family members is exhausting.
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To set boundaries with family members is exhausting. and the weight of that during
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Members is exhausting. and the weight of that during the season when we're supposed
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And the weight of that during the season when we're supposed to be able to focus on family
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The season when we're supposed to be able to focus on family and spending time with jesus,
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To be able to focus on family and spending time with jesus, to have that added
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And spending time with jesus, to have that added pressure in there is awful.
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To have that added pressure in there is awful. so, more women should
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Pressure in there is awful. so, more women should be like the three of you
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So, more women should be like the three of you because it matters so much
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Be like the three of you because it matters so much to us to not have to carry that.
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Because it matters so much to us to not have to carry that. >> joyce: right.
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To us to not have to carry that. >> joyce: right. >> erin: that's too hard.
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>> joyce: right. >> erin: that's too hard. >> ginger: yeah.
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>> erin: that's too hard. >> ginger: yeah. >> joyce: another thing
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>> ginger: yeah. >> joyce: another thing i think we could talk about
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>> joyce: another thing i think we could talk about with christmas is that i think
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I think we could talk about with christmas is that i think a lot of people spend money
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With christmas is that i think a lot of people spend money that they don't have to spend...
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A lot of people spend money that they don't have to spend... >> erin: ooo, let's talk
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That they don't have to spend... >> erin: ooo, let's talk about that.
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>> erin: ooo, let's talk about that. >> joyce: out of obligation.
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About that. >> joyce: out of obligation. >> erin: yeah.
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>> joyce: out of obligation. >> erin: yeah. >> joyce: to maybe buy
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>> erin: yeah. >> joyce: to maybe buy somebody a gift that they
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>> joyce: to maybe buy somebody a gift that they don't even like.
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Somebody a gift that they don't even like. [chuckling]
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Don't even like. [chuckling] >> erin: why do you think
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[chuckling] >> erin: why do you think we do that?
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>> erin: why do you think we do that? >> joyce: just we feel
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We do that? >> joyce: just we feel obligated.
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You know, they're gonna
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You know, they're gonna get you a gift so you feel like
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You know, they're gonna get you a gift so you feel like you need to get them a gift.
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Get you a gift so you feel like you need to get them a gift. you've had a rough financial
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You need to get them a gift. you've had a rough financial year and you really
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You've had a rough financial year and you really shouldn't be spending--
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Year and you really shouldn't be spending-- some people even go into debt.
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Shouldn't be spending-- some people even go into debt. >> ginger: so, it becomes more
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Some people even go into debt. >> ginger: so, it becomes more people pleasing than it does
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>> ginger: so, it becomes more people pleasing than it does trying to bless somebody else.
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People pleasing than it does trying to bless somebody else. >> joyce: and you're really
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Trying to bless somebody else. >> joyce: and you're really not giving if you're giving
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>> joyce: and you're really not giving if you're giving with resentment.
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Not giving if you're giving with resentment. it's not giving unless
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With resentment. it's not giving unless you're giving it totally
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It's not giving unless you're giving it totally with the right motive,
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You're giving it totally with the right motive, "i want to bless you."
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With the right motive, "i want to bless you." or you give a gift to
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"i want to bless you." or you give a gift to somebody, and they don't
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Or you give a gift to somebody, and they don't give you one back and now
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Somebody, and they don't give you one back and now you have your feelings hurt,
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Give you one back and now you have your feelings hurt, "well, i gave you a gift
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You have your feelings hurt, "well, i gave you a gift and you didn't give me one."
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Well, there again,
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Well, there again, you didn't give the gift
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Well, there again, you didn't give the gift with the right motive.
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You didn't give the gift with the right motive. you didn't give
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With the right motive. you didn't give it to be a blessing.
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You didn't give it to be a blessing. you gave it to cause them
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It to be a blessing. you gave it to cause them to feel indebted to you
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You gave it to cause them to feel indebted to you to have to give you one.
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To feel indebted to you to have to give you one. and so, there's a lot of things
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To have to give you one. and so, there's a lot of things if we search our motives,
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And so, there's a lot of things if we search our motives, we find that they're just
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If we search our motives, we find that they're just coming out of selfishness
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We find that they're just coming out of selfishness and self-centeredness or some
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Coming out of selfishness and self-centeredness or some kind of wrong expectation.
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And self-centeredness or some kind of wrong expectation. >> erin: it's interesting how
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Kind of wrong expectation. >> erin: it's interesting how the holidays can bring out
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>> erin: it's interesting how the holidays can bring out some of our things that are
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The holidays can bring out some of our things that are inside of us that we can hide
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Some of our things that are inside of us that we can hide sometimes, like our--
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Inside of us that we can hide sometimes, like our-- >> holly: just like
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Sometimes, like our-- >> holly: just like think as a child, right,
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>> holly: just like think as a child, right, it's all--it's about the wonder.
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Think as a child, right, it's all--it's about the wonder. it's about the presents.
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It's all--it's about the wonder. it's about the presents. it's all of that.
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It's about the presents. it's all of that. but then there comes
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It's all of that. but then there comes a time when you have
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But then there comes a time when you have to put away childish things.
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A time when you have to put away childish things. and so, then now, we're
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To put away childish things. and so, then now, we're of the age when it should
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And so, then now, we're of the age when it should be about giving.
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Of the age when it should be about giving. it's about what can
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Be about giving. it's about what can i do for somebody else
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It's about what can i do for somebody else as opposed to looking
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I do for somebody else as opposed to looking what's in this for me.
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As opposed to looking what's in this for me. and then even what you
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What's in this for me. and then even what you just said about gifts,
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And then even what you just said about gifts, i think there are things
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Just said about gifts, i think there are things that we can give people
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I think there are things that we can give people that cost nothing.
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That we can give people that cost nothing. >> joyce: yeah.
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That cost nothing. >> joyce: yeah. >> ginger: important
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>> joyce: yeah. >> ginger: important things that they love.
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>> ginger: important things that they love. >> holly: if it's time spent
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Things that they love. >> holly: if it's time spent with someone or write
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>> holly: if it's time spent with someone or write a letter, remember that?
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With someone or write a letter, remember that? that's paper.
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A letter, remember that? that's paper. you have a pen,
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That's paper. you have a pen, and you actually write.
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You have a pen, and you actually write. >> [ladies laughing]]
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And you actually write. >> [ladies laughing]] >> holly: remember that?
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>> [ladies laughing]] >> holly: remember that? >> ginger: i do.
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>> holly: remember that? >> ginger: i do. >> holly: and like just
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>> ginger: i do. >> holly: and like just about the things, you love
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>> holly: and like just about the things, you love about them or something.
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About the things, you love about them or something. that would mean more to me
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About them or something. that would mean more to me than a sweater i don't need.
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That would mean more to me than a sweater i don't need. >> joyce: right.
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Than a sweater i don't need. >> joyce: right. >> holly: right?
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>> joyce: right. >> holly: right? so just there's things that
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>> holly: right? so just there's things that we can give to people that don't
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So just there's things that we can give to people that don't cost money.
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We can give to people that don't cost money. >> ginger: that's a great idea.
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Cost money. >> ginger: that's a great idea. >> joyce: yeah.
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>> ginger: that's a great idea. >> joyce: yeah. and you know, there's not
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>> joyce: yeah. and you know, there's not a thing wrong with being honest
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And you know, there's not a thing wrong with being honest and just say, "hey, everybody,
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A thing wrong with being honest and just say, "hey, everybody, i just want you to know we've
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And just say, "hey, everybody, i just want you to know we've had a little bit of a rough
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I just want you to know we've had a little bit of a rough year financially and this year
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Had a little bit of a rough year financially and this year i just can't buy gifts."
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Year financially and this year i just can't buy gifts." >> erin: it's very humbling.
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I just can't buy gifts." >> erin: it's very humbling. >> ginger: well, yeah,
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>> erin: it's very humbling. >> ginger: well, yeah, to be able to say that out
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>> ginger: well, yeah, to be able to say that out of honesty and love
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To be able to say that out of honesty and love for someone else.
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Of honesty and love for someone else. >> joyce: if they really
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For someone else. >> joyce: if they really love you.
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>> joyce: if they really love you. >> ginger: not with shame.
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Love you. >> ginger: not with shame. exactly.
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>> ginger: not with shame. exactly. >> joyce: they're not gonna go,
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Exactly. >> joyce: they're not gonna go, "well, you didn't buy
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>> joyce: they're not gonna go, "well, you didn't buy me a gift."
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"well, you didn't buy me a gift." >> holly: right.
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Me a gift." >> holly: right. >> ginger: and what a difference
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>> holly: right. >> ginger: and what a difference it can make for families
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>> ginger: and what a difference it can make for families who might be going in debt
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It can make for families who might be going in debt worse otherwise.
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Who might be going in debt worse otherwise. >> joyce: so, our first
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Worse otherwise. >> joyce: so, our first christmas together,
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>> joyce: so, our first christmas together, we'd been married a year.
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Christmas together, we'd been married a year. we didn't have any
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We'd been married a year. we didn't have any money and we waited
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We didn't have any money and we waited until christmas eve,
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Money and we waited until christmas eve, and we walked up to the five
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Until christmas eve, and we walked up to the five and dime store when they--
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And we walked up to the five and dime store when they-- i'm old enough that
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And dime store when they-- i'm old enough that they had those.
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I'm old enough that they had those. >> holly: [laughing]
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They had those. >> holly: [laughing] and it actually was a five
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>> holly: [laughing] and it actually was a five and a dime store.
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And it actually was a five and a dime store. >> joyce: yeah, and it was.
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And a dime store. >> joyce: yeah, and it was. and they still had
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>> joyce: yeah, and it was. and they still had a christmas tree stand
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And they still had a christmas tree stand up there and the only tree
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A christmas tree stand up there and the only tree they had really looked like
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Up there and the only tree they had really looked like the charlie brown tree.
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They had really looked like the charlie brown tree. you know, three branches
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The charlie brown tree. you know, three branches on it and we got it for
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You know, three branches on it and we got it for a dollar or something.
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On it and we got it for a dollar or something. and we took that home
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A dollar or something. and we took that home and the only thing
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And we took that home and the only thing we could afford to buy
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And the only thing we could afford to buy him was a little truck.
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We could afford to buy him was a little truck. but you know,
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Him was a little truck. but you know, he wasn't unhappy.
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But you know, he wasn't unhappy. he was happy with his truck,
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He wasn't unhappy. he was happy with his truck, and we hung two or three
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He was happy with his truck, and we hung two or three bulbs on the tree,
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And we hung two or three bulbs on the tree, and he didn't know
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Bulbs on the tree, and he didn't know the difference.
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And he didn't know the difference. so really, you just,
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The difference. so really, you just, all you can do is what
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So really, you just, all you can do is what you can do and then you
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All you can do is what you can do and then you don't need to worry
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You can do and then you don't need to worry about it or fret about it.
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Don't need to worry about it or fret about it. most people say--
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About it or fret about it. most people say-- when the holiday
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Most people say-- when the holiday season is over,
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When the holiday season is over, including new year,
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Season is over, including new year, "i'm so glad--i'm so ready
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Including new year, "i'm so glad--i'm so ready to get things back to normal."
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"i'm so glad--i'm so ready to get things back to normal." and so, why do we have
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To get things back to normal." and so, why do we have to make it so abnormal...
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And so, why do we have to make it so abnormal... >> erin: yeah.
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To make it so abnormal... >> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know,
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>> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know, that we are glad when it's over?
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>> joyce: you know, that we are glad when it's over? >> ginger: i can hear a lot
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That we are glad when it's over? >> ginger: i can hear a lot of people right now with what
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>> ginger: i can hear a lot of people right now with what you're talking about with,
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Of people right now with what you're talking about with, with gift giving saying,
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You're talking about with, with gift giving saying, "oh, i couldn't do that."
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With gift giving saying, "oh, i couldn't do that." 'cause that would be hard
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"oh, i couldn't do that." 'cause that would be hard to say that, "we're not gonna
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'cause that would be hard to say that, "we're not gonna do this, this year."
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To say that, "we're not gonna do this, this year." and so, how would you
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Do this, this year." and so, how would you encourage people?
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And so, how would you encourage people? because when we do
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Encourage people? because when we do feel that way,
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Because when we do feel that way, it makes complete sense.
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Feel that way, it makes complete sense. i get it that people
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It makes complete sense. i get it that people feel that way.
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I get it that people feel that way. and yet it's probably
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Feel that way. and yet it's probably hurting them more.
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And yet it's probably hurting them more. and it is out of--
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Hurting them more. and it is out of-- there are other ways
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And it is out of-- there are other ways to show people's love,
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There are other ways to show people's love, like you were saying.
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To show people's love, like you were saying. so, it is more out of not
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Like you were saying. so, it is more out of not wanting to be embarrassed.
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So, it is more out of not wanting to be embarrassed. so how would you encourage
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Wanting to be embarrassed. so how would you encourage somebody that it's ok to make
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So how would you encourage somebody that it's ok to make some really hard choices?
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Somebody that it's ok to make some really hard choices? you mentioned boundaries,
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Some really hard choices? you mentioned boundaries, to set some boundaries
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You mentioned boundaries, to set some boundaries that are right for you
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To set some boundaries that are right for you or for your family.
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That are right for you or for your family. >> joyce: well, sometimes
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Or for your family. >> joyce: well, sometimes people give people
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>> joyce: well, sometimes people give people gifts that they've made.
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People give people gifts that they've made. >> holly: yeah,
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Gifts that they've made. >> holly: yeah, that's a good point.
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>> holly: yeah, that's a good point. >> erin: yeah.
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That's a good point. >> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know,
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>> erin: yeah. >> joyce: you know, maybe they make jelly
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>> joyce: you know, maybe they make jelly or something
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Maybe they make jelly or something and they give people jelly
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Or something and they give people jelly or maybe they're good at crafts
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And they give people jelly or maybe they're good at crafts and they give people crafts.
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Or maybe they're good at crafts and they give people crafts. and i remember one year,
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And they give people crafts. and i remember one year, and i don't remember
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And i remember one year, and i don't remember who it was in the family,
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And i don't remember who it was in the family, but they just said,
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Who it was in the family, but they just said, "we just didn't have
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But they just said, "we just didn't have a lot of money this year.
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"we just didn't have a lot of money this year. and so, we put time into this,
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A lot of money this year. and so, we put time into this, and we give you our love
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And so, we put time into this, and we give you our love by giving you, our time."
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And we give you our love by giving you, our time." >> ginger: and i think that
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By giving you, our time." >> ginger: and i think that means more to people
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>> ginger: and i think that means more to people than you realize.
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Means more to people than you realize. >> joyce: and doing
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Than you realize. >> joyce: and doing what we can do.
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>> joyce: and doing what we can do. >> ginger: yeah.
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What we can do. >> ginger: yeah. >> joyce: and we have to stop
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>> ginger: yeah. >> joyce: and we have to stop being afraid to tell the truth
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>> joyce: and we have to stop being afraid to tell the truth and people have to stop
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Being afraid to tell the truth and people have to stop being offended by someone
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And people have to stop being offended by someone telling them the truth.
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Being offended by someone telling them the truth. >> holly: it's like
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Telling them the truth. >> holly: it's like to your point.
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>> holly: it's like to your point. it's like that as followers
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To your point. it's like that as followers of jesus, we are supposed
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It's like that as followers of jesus, we are supposed to be counterculture.
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Of jesus, we are supposed to be counterculture. >> ginger: yeah.
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To be counterculture. >> ginger: yeah. >> holly: we're of a different
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>> ginger: yeah. >> holly: we're of a different kingdom.
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>> holly: we're of a different kingdom. and so, i think, in many ways,
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Kingdom. and so, i think, in many ways, we have let this culture
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And so, i think, in many ways, we have let this culture frame christmas for us.
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We have let this culture frame christmas for us. and we're--we're--
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Frame christmas for us. and we're--we're-- we're the different people.
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And we're--we're-- we're the different people. we're supposed to be
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We're the different people. we're supposed to be of a different mindset, right?
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We're supposed to be of a different mindset, right? >> joyce: right.
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Of a different mindset, right? >> joyce: right. >> holly: so, we have
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>> joyce: right. >> holly: so, we have to do, i think, do the work
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>> holly: so, we have to do, i think, do the work of resisting the pressure
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To do, i think, do the work of resisting the pressure of culture to give and give
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Of resisting the pressure of culture to give and give and give and do and do
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Of culture to give and give and give and do and do and do and go into debt
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And give and do and do and do and go into debt and have the biggest tree
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And do and go into debt and have the biggest tree and have the most stuff.
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And have the biggest tree and have the most stuff. and, you know,
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And have the most stuff. and, you know, so we have to go--
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And, you know, so we have to go-- >> ginger: yeah.
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So we have to go-- >> ginger: yeah. yeah.
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>> ginger: yeah. yeah. >> holly: i mean,
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Yeah. >> holly: i mean, it's hard work, right,
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>> holly: i mean, it's hard work, right, to go against culture.
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It's hard work, right, to go against culture. but we are the resistance.
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To go against culture. but we are the resistance. >> ginger: that's a great point.
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But we are the resistance. >> ginger: that's a great point. yeah, exactly.
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>> ginger: that's a great point. yeah, exactly. >> erin: because we get sucked
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Yeah, exactly. >> erin: because we get sucked into this time of the year
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>> erin: because we get sucked into this time of the year when we should shine the most
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Into this time of the year when we should shine the most like this is the season where
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When we should shine the most like this is the season where we get to talk about him,
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Like this is the season where we get to talk about him, jesus, more openly.
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We get to talk about him, jesus, more openly. we shouldn't be the one that
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Jesus, more openly. we shouldn't be the one that are bending to culture.
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We shouldn't be the one that are bending to culture. >> holly: right.
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Are bending to culture. >> holly: right. 'cause we're--exactly,
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>> holly: right. 'cause we're--exactly, we're supposed to be the ones
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'cause we're--exactly, we're supposed to be the ones filled with joy.
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We're supposed to be the ones filled with joy. remember that?
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Filled with joy. remember that? and it's hard to be--
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Remember that? and it's hard to be-- >> joyce: oh, that thing.
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And it's hard to be-- >> joyce: oh, that thing. >> [ladies laughing]
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>> holly: but then if you're
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>> holly: but then if you're worn out and in debt
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Worn out and in debt and then you're
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And then you're actually not.
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Actually not. and tired and, you know,
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And tired and, you know, mad at people and--
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Mad at people and-- >> erin: yeah.
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>> erin: yeah. >> holly: you know, it's like,
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>> holly: you know, it's like, "but jesus loves you."
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"but jesus loves you." it's like, "uh?"
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It's like, "uh?" [laughing]
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[laughing] >> joyce: "i wish you
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>> joyce: "i wish you wouldn't have come.
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Wouldn't have come. and when are you leaving?"
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And when are you leaving?" >> [ladies laughing]
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>> [ladies laughing] >> ginger: "and merry
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>> ginger: "and merry christmas."
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Christmas." >> joyce: "and merry christmas."
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Including launching
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Including launching the hope factory in zimbabwe.
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The hope factory in zimbabwe. the hope factory now
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The hope factory now allows us to produce
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Allows us to produce high-quality meals,
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High-quality meals, containing 75% of a child's
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Containing 75% of a child's daily nutritional needs.
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That helped push our running total to more than
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Running total to more than 540 million meals served.
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540 million meals served. this year also marked
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This year also marked a milestone for providing
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A milestone for providing clean water around the world.
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Clean water around the world. we've now dug 3,000 fresh
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We've now dug 3,000 fresh water wells, which are
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Water wells, which are crucial to those communities.
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Crucial to those communities. medical and dental missions
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Medical and dental missions continue to be a cornerstone
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Continue to be a cornerstone of our outreaches.
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Of our outreaches. this year, hand of hope's
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This year, hand of hope's running total for medical
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Running total for medical and dental care surpassed
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And dental care surpassed 4.02 million people.
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4.02 million people. and in 2025, we launched
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And in 2025, we launched hope mountain ranch in utah.
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Hope mountain ranch in utah. it's a place of refuge and
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It's a place of refuge and healing for women and girls
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Healing for women and girls facing issues like abuse,
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Facing issues like abuse, human trafficking,
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Human trafficking, and addiction.
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And addiction. it's a cause that
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It's a cause that is especially close
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Is especially close to my heart.
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To my heart. 2025 brought some incredibly
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2025 brought some incredibly difficult times through
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Difficult times through natural disasters.
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Natural disasters. your gifts allowed us to
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Your gifts allowed us to respond to devastating crises
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Respond to devastating crises over the last few months,
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Over the last few months, such as the texas flood,
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Such as the texas flood, which killed more
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Which killed more than 130 people.
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Than 130 people. but the most important
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But the most important thing we do with your help,
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Thing we do with your help, is share the gospel
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Is share the gospel around the world.
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That's all thanks to gifts from people like you.
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Well, as 2025 wraps up, this is the perfect time
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This is the perfect time to give an end of the year gift
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To give an end of the year gift to share christ and love people
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To share christ and love people throughout 2026 and beyond.
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Remember, your gift is tax deductible,
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And your generosity is crucial to sharing the love of jesus.
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To sharing the love of jesus. >> announcer: call us
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>> joyce: i pray you have a blessed and a joyful
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A blessed and a joyful holiday season,
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Holiday season, and an even better 2026.
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>> joyce: how do we navigate
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>> joyce: how do we navigate all of life's pressures?
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All of life's pressures? well, god's word has
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Well, god's word has much to say about it,
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Much to say about it, so, i thought we could
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So, i thought we could all get together with some
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All get together with some of my friends and talk about it.
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Of my friends and talk about it. >> announcer: join us
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Along with some amazing friends, as we honestly share
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Unpredictable moments, and learn to apply what
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>> announcer: we hope you
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>> announcer: we hope you enjoyed today's program.
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Enjoyed today's program. we are so grateful
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We are so grateful to our joyce meyer
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To our joyce meyer ministries partners
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Ministries partners who make this
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Who make this and all we do possible,
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And all we do possible, including sharing
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Including sharing god's word
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God's word and offering help
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And offering help to people in need
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To people in need all over the world.
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Joyce Meyer - Less Is More This Christmas (Part 1)

December 23, 2025 | 29:29

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