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Your Move with Andy Stanley

Andrew Stanley - What Our World Needs Now (Part 1)

August 23, 2025 | S25 E34 | 30:10

Andrew Stanley - What Our World Needs Now (Part 1)
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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andrew Stanley - What Our World Needs Now (Part 1) | August 23, 2025
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  • Andy stanley: hi everybody, welcome to "your move" where we
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  • Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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  • I'm andy stanley, and i'll be your guide.
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  • Did you know that every decision you make becomes a permanent
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  • Part of the story of your life?
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  • That's right.
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  • Your life is a story, and i want you to write a story you will be
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  • Proud to tell.
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  • And today i will tell you how right here on "your move."
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Andy: as you probably know, and have probably experienced or
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  • Heard or maybe you would, this, this is something that you would
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  • Say, there's a big trend right now in the united states
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  • Especially, but it really in the west as well and in europe, but
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  • We'll just stick with the u.s.
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  • There's a big trend right now
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  • Towards spirituality, not necessarily christianity or any
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  • Formalized religion, but just general spirituality,
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  • Personalized spirituality, write your own script, you know, grow
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  • Your own spirituality, you may have heard somebody say or maybe
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  • This is something you say, and i understand this, you might
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  • Say, "i'm not religious, i'm spiritual."
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  • And this means different things to different people, which is
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  • Kind of the point.
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  • Basically, you find what works for you, and then you work it.
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  • And i'm not being critical because i think to some degree,
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  • Even those of us who claim a, you know, an official wanna be
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  • Jesus followers or maybe you're not a jesus follower, you're
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  • Just sort of a general christian, or you just kind of
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  • Believe in god, but i think regardless of where we are on
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  • That on that continuum, there's something in all of us that kind
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  • Of finds what works for us and then we just kind of work it.
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  • For some people this is actually a reaction to organized religion
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  • Or you may say this is similar.
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  • That this is a response to something to where you feel like
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  • You've got to deconstruct and reconstruct your
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  • Faith framework.
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  • A faith framework is basically the framework through which you
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  • View all of life, but if jesus is part of your thinking at all
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  • About your spirituality or your faith framework, this is really
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  • Important and shocking.
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  • When you follow jesus through the gospels, in other words, if
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  • You read matthew, mark, luke, or john, when you follow jesus
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  • Through the gospels, you'll discover that he never invites
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  • Anyone to participate in spirituality.
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  • He never ever once encourages anybody to be spiritual.
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  • Or to be more spiritual.
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  • In fact, he never even uses that term.
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  • He never uses the term spiritual or the term spirituality, which
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  • Is shocking.
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  • It's like, well, wait a minute, jesus is a religious figure.
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  • Certainly he talked about spirituality.
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  • He doesn't.
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  • He talks about the holy spirit, that's a specific entity.
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  • He talked about evil spirits, spirits which are
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  • Specific entities.
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  • He says that god is spirit, but that's a specific entity.
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  • But he doesn't talk about general spirituality or invite
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  • People into some sort of realm of spirituality.
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  • He actually invites and points his followers in a different
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  • Direction, a better direction as we're gonna discover a
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  • Better-for-you direction and a
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  • Better-for-the-people-around-you direction.
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  • He didn't point his followers towards spirituality.
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  • He insisted on, and you may hate this, he insisted on maturity
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  • And his version of maturity as we're gonna see, actually stands
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  • In stark contrast to all-about-me spirituality.
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  • It also stands in stark contrast to all-about-me christianity.
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  • Because the ultimate expression of maturity, even the maturity
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  • That jesus points us to, the ultimate expression of maturity
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  • Is, as, as you know, even though you may not have had these
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  • Words, the ultimate expression of maturity is saying no to me
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  • For the sake of we.
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  • Now we all experienced this in middle school and high school
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  • Personally, and where we struggle with this in high
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  • School was our parents were, would say things like, "you, the
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  • Only person you ever think about is yourself."
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  • And we would think, "who else am i supposed to think about?"
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  • And then we grew up and realized, oh, i'm like in a
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  • Community and things are gonna do better right because that's
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  • Growing up, that is maturity.
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  • Now the other place where you might have bumped into this
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  • Differentiation between spirituality and maturity is
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  • Also in your home.
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  • If you grew up in a religious home, maybe a christian home,
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  • Where your parents were spiritual, your mom and dad were
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  • Spiritual, they were vocal about their faith, even if it wasn't
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  • The christian faith, they were vocal about their faith, vocal
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  • About their spirituality.
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  • Maybe they had a bible verse for everything.
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  • They had you in church all the time, you know, kinda every time
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  • The doors were open.
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  • But in that, in all that spirituality and all those
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  • Verses and all that church stuff there was kind of a thread
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  • Of hypocrisy.
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  • They were sort of one way in public, a different way at home.
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  • They were unkind.
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  • Maybe they were critical.
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  • Maybe they were judgmental, maybe they were self-righteous.
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  • I don't know, and in growing up in that environment, you
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  • Experienced that just this difference because you--your
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  • Parents probably considered themselves spiritual.
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  • They would say, "oh we're spiritual, we're a
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  • Spiritual family.
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  • We're a christian family."
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  • And maybe you didn't use this word, but what you sense is they
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  • Lacked maturity.
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  • They lacked others' firstness.
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  • They were always right about things, but they didn't always
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  • Treat people right.
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  • They were always right about what they believed and what you
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  • Were supposed to believe, but they didn't always treat
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  • You right.
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  • And just to be honest, people who do what i do, pastors and,
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  • And church leaders, if we're not careful, we can facilitate this
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  • Way of thinking as well.
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  • Jesus didn't, but we can in fact, jesus reserves his
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  • Harshest criticism for men who camouflage their all-about-me
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  • Immaturity with diy, do-it-yourself spirituality.
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  • When he caught people kinda creating their own spirituality
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  • With its own rules, and this is what you do, and this is what
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  • You don't do, but they created it in such a way as to serve
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  • Themselves, and it harmed other people.
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  • He had no patience for that.
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  • He reserved his harshest criticism for that.
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  • And if that's the kind of spirit, that's spirituality for
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  • You, he would say that is not what my heavenly father
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  • Represents and that's not what i'm calling people to.
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  • Now speaking of jesus, here's how jesus introduces this idea
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  • Of maturity, and he introduced it very early in his ministry
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  • And because it's part of the sermon on the mount, which is a
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  • Message that everybody believes he spoke, he preached over and
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  • Over and over and over in various places with various
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  • Different details and consequently it's one of those
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  • Sermons that by the end of his 3 years with the disciples, they
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  • Could probably all quote some version of this, this sermon
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  • That we call the sermon on the mount.
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  • And here's what jesus says.
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  • This got their attention.
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  • He said this, and this is at the end of a long kind of paragraph.
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  • He says, "therefore", here's the conclusion of what i'm saying,
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  • "be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly father is perfect", to
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  • Which we're all like, "well, i'm out."
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  • Right?
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  • I mean, i can't be perfect compared to anybody else.
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  • I'm supposed to be perfect compared to god.
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  • But the little greek word translated perfect in these two
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  • Places is actually the word greek word "teleios," "be
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  • Teleoi, therefore, as your father in heaven is teleios,"
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  • And what it's referring to is not perfection in terms of
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  • Having no imperfection.
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  • What it refers to is the idea of being complete or as we're gonna
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  • See, matured.
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  • Andy: hey, i wanted to take just a minute to address a growing
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  • Crisis in america.
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  • Did you know that nearly 75 million americans have no
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  • Religious affiliation, none whatsoever?
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  • Most of us know some of these people.
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  • Many of us are related to some of these people.
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  • So for us, they aren't statistics, they're people we
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  • Love and would love to see returned to faith in jesus.
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  • So at your move, we are committed to reaching people
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  • With the teaching of jesus right where they are and when they
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  • Least expect it.
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  • We use a research backed digital strategy that's already making
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  • A difference.
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  • So if you'll stick around after today's message, we would love
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  • To tell you more about it or visit the website or call the
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  • Number on your screen to learn how you can be a part of this
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  • Revolutionary approach to introducing and reintroducing
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  • People to jesus.
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  • Andy: then the apostle paul comes along.
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  • The apostle paul wrote about half the new testament.
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  • The apostle paul took the teaching of jesus, and he teases
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  • It out, and he applies it for non-jewish people, people like
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  • Us, most of us, gentiles, and lo and behold, read all of
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  • His letters.
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  • The apostle paul never calls people to spirituality either.
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  • In fact, in 1 corinthians, his letter to christians living in
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  • Corinth, he actually chastises the people in that church for
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  • Their pseudo spirituality because they kind of created
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  • Their own idea of here's what makes a person spiritual.
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  • And he called them children.
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  • He says, you're so immature, you need to grow up and quit acting
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  • Like babies.
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  • And they're like, we're not babies, we're so spiritual.
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  • It's like, no you're not, no you're not.
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  • You have it all wrong.
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  • So again, the apostle paul, he doesn't call people to
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  • Spirituality either.
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  • He calls them to maturity, and he uses this same greek
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  • Word "teleios."
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  • But in our greek--in our english text it actually is translated
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  • In your english bibles, mature.
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  • Here's what he says.
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  • I'm gonna read you a passage.
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  • It's a little bit long, but it's, you gotta kinda have the
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  • Whole thing to really get the point of what he's saying.
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  • So i'll read this to you.
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  • Here's what he says.
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  • Again, this is a letter that he wrote.
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  • This is actually a letter to christians living in ephesus.
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  • Here's what he wrote.
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  • He said, "christ gave (the church)," these people who did
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  • Specific things in order to build up the church, he gave,
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  • "apostles, and prophets, and evangelists, and pastors and
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  • Teachers," and he gave these people these gifts.
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  • And he gave the church these people in order, "to equip his
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  • People," the church people, "for works of service."
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  • This is so interesting.
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  • He said, god put these people in the church not to do something
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  • For themselves, but to equip everybody else to do something
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  • For everybody else because that's what the church is really
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  • All about.
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  • He goes on, he says, "so that," or the result is, "the body of
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  • Christ," that is, a local church, "the body of christ
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  • Might be built up," or grow up.
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  • And then he continues, and this is gonna happen, "until we all
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  • Reach unity."
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  • Unity is maturity.
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  • We've talked about unity before, "unity in the faith and in the
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  • Knowledge," because knowledge is built over time, it's part of
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  • Maturity, it takes time, "and in the knowledge of the son of god
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  • And become," and here's our word, and if all of this happens
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  • And everybody participates over time individually and
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  • Collectively we become, "mature," teleios.
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  • In the greek text it actually says you'll become
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  • A grown-up man.
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  • You'll become a grown-up adult.
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  • So god gives the local church and he gives people in the
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  • Church spiritual gifts, not so you can be more spiritual.
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  • God gives individuals spiritual gifts so that the church can
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  • Grow up and become more mature.
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  • To which maybe we should ask, well, how mature and what does
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  • That look like?
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  • Paul's like, i'm glad you asked.
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  • I would love to answer that question.
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  • He goes on and he says this, "attaining," that is over time,
  • 00:10:54.705 --> 00:10:58.409
  • "attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of christ,"
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  • Which is just a fancy way of saying the goal is that the
  • 00:11:02.913 --> 00:11:06.617
  • Individuals in the church would become over time grow up to be
  • 00:11:06.617 --> 00:11:10.621
  • Like christ or the word that we use is that we would all grow to
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  • Be christlike, not christ-light, christlike.
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  • And then he contrasts this to make sure that we all understand
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  • Exactly what he's talking about.
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  • He goes on and he says this, he says, then and then he gets
  • 00:11:23.901 --> 00:11:27.037
  • Specific, "then we will no longer be" babies sucking our
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  • Thumbs, babies, infants.
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  • And this is one of the things that drove him crazy.
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  • All these people in some of these cities because he planted
  • 00:11:37.381 --> 00:11:40.151
  • Churches in some of the most sophisticated, cosmopolitan
  • 00:11:40.151 --> 00:11:42.686
  • Educated cities in the first century.
  • 00:11:42.686 --> 00:11:45.122
  • And these people were very educated.
  • 00:11:45.122 --> 00:11:46.490
  • They're very smart, but they thought they were spiritual.
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  • He's like, no, you're not.
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  • You're not even supposed to try to be spiritual.
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  • I want you to grow up.
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  • I want you to become mature and you're acting like babies.
  • 00:11:56.133 --> 00:12:01.305
  • You're at each other and picking at each other and criticizing
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  • Each other and nah nah nah, and you won't do this and he's like,
  • 00:12:04.041 --> 00:12:06.844
  • Come on, we're supposed to be christlike.
  • 00:12:06.844 --> 00:12:09.713
  • And then he kind of takes a jab at people who do what i do.
  • 00:12:09.713 --> 00:12:13.484
  • He says this, "then we will no longer be infants," who are
  • 00:12:13.484 --> 00:12:17.021
  • Easily talked out of things and talked into things.
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  • Isn't it easy to convince a child of just about anything?
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  • And one of the problems in our nation right now with the
  • 00:12:25.162 --> 00:12:27.531
  • Christians is watching christians being talked into
  • 00:12:27.531 --> 00:12:30.334
  • Things and being talked out of things so easily.
  • 00:12:30.334 --> 00:12:32.903
  • Paul would say it's because they're babies,
  • 00:12:32.903 --> 00:12:35.439
  • They never grew up.
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  • They can quote things.
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  • They learned the books of the bible, you know,
  • 00:12:38.676 --> 00:12:40.277
  • They learned the songs, but they've never matured.
  • 00:12:40.277 --> 00:12:43.347
  • He goes on, he says, "then we will no longer be infants,
  • 00:12:43.347 --> 00:12:45.316
  • Tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there
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  • By every wind of teaching," every new idea that comes along
  • 00:12:49.253 --> 00:12:53.991
  • With all the chickens run over to that side, and then they run
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  • Over back over to this side.
  • 00:12:56.060 --> 00:12:57.428
  • Now this is the coolest thing and the newest thing and paul's
  • 00:12:57.428 --> 00:12:59.263
  • Like, good grief, how are we ever gonna get this thing off
  • 00:12:59.263 --> 00:13:01.966
  • The ground?
  • 00:13:01.966 --> 00:13:03.300
  • And now he points at people like me, "and by the cunning and
  • 00:13:03.300 --> 00:13:07.838
  • Craftiness of people and their deceitful scheming."
  • 00:13:07.838 --> 00:13:13.544
  • Because paul had experienced people coming along behind him
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  • Who took bits and pieces of the gospel and bits and pieces of
  • 00:13:17.214 --> 00:13:20.284
  • The teaching of jesus, and they crafted their own kind of
  • 00:13:20.284 --> 00:13:23.320
  • Worldview, their own spiritual worldview and confused people
  • 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:27.157
  • And dragged people off in all kinds of crazy directions.
  • 00:13:27.157 --> 00:13:29.894
  • Again, and this happens today because of people who do what i
  • 00:13:29.894 --> 00:13:33.063
  • Do because we are the spiritual leaders.
  • 00:13:33.063 --> 00:13:37.534
  • "and i'm the pastor and i'm reverend stanley and you'll
  • 00:13:37.534 --> 00:13:41.639
  • Never know the bible as well as i do, okay?
  • 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:44.141
  • I mean, good luck.
  • 00:13:44.141 --> 00:13:45.509
  • Okay, if you don't come and sit in rows and listen to me, how
  • 00:13:45.509 --> 00:13:48.379
  • Are you ever gonna know what god want--" you know, it's sort of
  • 00:13:48.379 --> 00:13:51.181
  • That, you know, spiritual leader thing.
  • 00:13:51.181 --> 00:13:53.384
  • They use spiritual language to manipulate people.
  • 00:13:53.384 --> 00:13:56.186
  • They use actually spirituality as a cover for their own
  • 00:13:56.186 --> 00:14:00.357
  • Personal immaturity because, and here's the language, because
  • 00:14:00.357 --> 00:14:04.695
  • People who do what i do, we have a special anointing by god.
  • 00:14:04.695 --> 00:14:09.066
  • So you're, i mean god loves you, but then there's me, okay, come
  • 00:14:09.066 --> 00:14:13.570
  • On, right?
  • 00:14:13.570 --> 00:14:14.939
  • I would coach so much baseball and the parents are like, "oh,
  • 00:14:14.939 --> 00:14:17.274
  • We're so glad you're the coach.
  • 00:14:17.274 --> 00:14:18.609
  • We know we're gonna win."
  • 00:14:18.609 --> 00:14:19.944
  • I'm like, it doesn't, i, you know, it just doesn't work that
  • 00:14:19.944 --> 00:14:22.713
  • Way, okay?
  • 00:14:22.713 --> 00:14:24.048
  • It's gonna, we're gonna get as many *rainouts as
  • 00:14:24.048 --> 00:14:25.416
  • Everybody else.
  • 00:14:25.416 --> 00:14:26.750
  • So anyway, so the apostle paul is saying, look, if you'll grow
  • 00:14:26.750 --> 00:14:29.119
  • Up and if you'll be mature and if you won't fall for
  • 00:14:29.119 --> 00:14:32.056
  • Spirituality and you will seek maturity, you won't be confused.
  • 00:14:32.056 --> 00:14:37.127
  • Back to paul, he says instead--that have fallen for
  • 00:14:37.127 --> 00:14:39.964
  • All the razzle dazzle and all the spiritual speak, "speaking
  • 00:14:39.964 --> 00:14:43.233
  • The truth in love," speaking the truth in love, we collectively,
  • 00:14:43.233 --> 00:14:48.405
  • Including me, we collectively, well, here it is again, we're
  • 00:14:48.405 --> 00:14:51.442
  • Gonna grow over time, the idea is maturity, "we will grow to
  • 00:14:51.442 --> 00:14:55.112
  • Become in every respect the mature body" of christ, "of
  • 00:14:55.112 --> 00:15:00.517
  • Him," jesus, "who is the head, that is, christ."
  • 00:15:00.517 --> 00:15:05.856
  • That individually and corporately over time we will
  • 00:15:05.856 --> 00:15:10.094
  • Mature, we will become more like our king.
  • 00:15:10.094 --> 00:15:13.030
  • His point is simply this, that as jesus followers, we are all
  • 00:15:13.030 --> 00:15:17.534
  • Called to pursue maturity.
  • 00:15:17.534 --> 00:15:20.571
  • Maturity, not spirituality, which leads me at last to the
  • 00:15:20.571 --> 00:15:24.541
  • Title and the point of this series.
  • 00:15:24.541 --> 00:15:26.510
  • The title of our series is, in fact, "what our world needs
  • 00:15:26.510 --> 00:15:29.546
  • Now," and what our world needs now is not more privatized, grow
  • 00:15:29.546 --> 00:15:35.619
  • Your own, make-it-up-yourself spirituality.
  • 00:15:35.619 --> 00:15:39.523
  • What the world needs now is jesus followers who are striving
  • 00:15:39.523 --> 00:15:42.760
  • To become more mature.
  • 00:15:42.760 --> 00:15:44.695
  • Jesus followers who are growing up into the fullness of christ,
  • 00:15:44.695 --> 00:15:48.499
  • Jesus followers who want to become more christ-like and who
  • 00:15:48.499 --> 00:15:51.468
  • Are putting in the work in order to become more like jesus.
  • 00:15:51.468 --> 00:15:55.205
  • People--to borrow a few phrases from the apostle paul, these are
  • 00:15:55.205 --> 00:15:58.942
  • Right out of his letters to other christians.
  • 00:15:58.942 --> 00:16:01.478
  • What the world needs now is christians who put childish ways
  • 00:16:01.478 --> 00:16:06.550
  • Behind us.
  • 00:16:06.550 --> 00:16:08.018
  • What the world needs now is christians who refuse, these are
  • 00:16:08.018 --> 00:16:11.188
  • His words, who refuse to bite and provoke each other.
  • 00:16:11.188 --> 00:16:16.060
  • Who bites another person?
  • 00:16:16.060 --> 00:16:18.062
  • Children do, and in so much of christianity today in our
  • 00:16:18.062 --> 00:16:21.498
  • Nation, and i don't know if you follow all these things and i,
  • 00:16:21.498 --> 00:16:24.435
  • You know, i don't even like to bring them up, but there's so
  • 00:16:24.435 --> 00:16:27.104
  • Much of this biting and biting.
  • 00:16:27.104 --> 00:16:28.472
  • And paul says, if you keep this up, you're going to devour the
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  • Church in your community.
  • 00:16:31.675 --> 00:16:33.043
  • And what happens is, and if you're not a christian or not a
  • 00:16:33.043 --> 00:16:35.412
  • Jesus follower, you get this, because you stand on the outside
  • 00:16:35.412 --> 00:16:38.549
  • And you're like, okay, if that's the way christians are, i can be
  • 00:16:38.549 --> 00:16:42.920
  • Like that and sleep in on sunday.
  • 00:16:42.920 --> 00:16:45.789
  • So i can be just as nasty and just as critical of other
  • 00:16:45.789 --> 00:16:48.792
  • People, but i sleep in.
  • 00:16:48.792 --> 00:16:50.227
  • So why do i want that version of nasty?
  • 00:16:50.227 --> 00:16:52.129
  • And then you all go and sit in rows and get some preacher to
  • 00:16:52.129 --> 00:16:54.364
  • Stir you all up and you go out to be nasty toward other people.
  • 00:16:54.364 --> 00:16:57.134
  • It's like who wants that?
  • 00:16:57.134 --> 00:16:58.469
  • And that leads to the next thing paul says over and over.
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  • The world needs jesus followers whose daily lives win the
  • 00:17:01.038 --> 00:17:06.510
  • Respect of outsiders.
  • 00:17:06.510 --> 00:17:09.079
  • If we aren't winning the respect, not the belief, if we
  • 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:13.784
  • Aren't winning the respect of outsiders, we're doing it wrong.
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  • If the church in the united states of america isn't winning
  • 00:17:18.055 --> 00:17:20.958
  • The respect, not adherence, not gonna join your church, not
  • 00:17:20.958 --> 00:17:24.461
  • Believe, no.
  • 00:17:24.461 --> 00:17:25.796
  • If we're not winning the respect of outsiders, we're not doing it
  • 00:17:25.796 --> 00:17:30.300
  • Right, and the people who aren't doing it right are right in what
  • 00:17:30.300 --> 00:17:35.506
  • They believe.
  • 00:17:35.506 --> 00:17:36.840
  • But they're immature.
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  • They're immature and paul says none of that.
  • 00:17:38.208 --> 00:17:40.444
  • We're never gonna win this.
  • 00:17:40.444 --> 00:17:41.778
  • We've lost the plot line.
  • 00:17:41.778 --> 00:17:43.814
  • We're never gonna invite people into the kingdom of god and
  • 00:17:43.814 --> 00:17:46.583
  • Illustrate the kingdom of god the way it should be illustrated
  • 00:17:46.583 --> 00:17:48.919
  • If we're biting, devour each other,
  • 00:17:48.919 --> 00:17:50.387
  • And if we're so ridiculously immature.
  • 00:17:50.387 --> 00:17:53.624
  • So grow up and quit camouflaging your immaturity
  • 00:17:53.624 --> 00:17:57.728
  • With your spirituality, with your knowledge,
  • 00:17:57.728 --> 00:18:00.164
  • With your routines, with all those things.
  • 00:18:00.164 --> 00:18:03.100
  • But what the world needs now, bottom line is men and women who
  • 00:18:03.100 --> 00:18:06.637
  • Are led by the holy spirit who dwells in each of us to grow
  • 00:18:06.637 --> 00:18:12.809
  • Us up.
  • 00:18:12.809 --> 00:18:14.144
  • What our world needs now is mature jesus followers who, not
  • 00:18:14.144 --> 00:18:17.648
  • Who all vote the same way, but who are all pursuing the same
  • 00:18:17.648 --> 00:18:21.251
  • Goal which is christ likeness.
  • 00:18:21.251 --> 00:18:25.455
  • So here's what we're gonna do.
  • 00:18:25.455 --> 00:18:26.790
  • We are going to unpack what grown up looks like and what
  • 00:18:26.790 --> 00:18:31.495
  • Grown up acts like and what grown up reacts like.
  • 00:18:31.495 --> 00:18:36.166
  • And while it is a list, he gives us a list, it is not a to do
  • 00:18:36.166 --> 00:18:40.938
  • List we have all to-tried and we have all to-failed, okay?
  • 00:18:40.938 --> 00:18:46.243
  • It's not a to do list.
  • 00:18:46.243 --> 00:18:48.078
  • Paul refers to these virtues and these behaviors and these
  • 00:18:48.078 --> 00:18:50.847
  • Actions and these reactions as fruit, something produced in and
  • 00:18:50.847 --> 00:18:56.253
  • Something produced through us by another agent.
  • 00:18:56.253 --> 00:19:01.992
  • He calls them, as you probably know, the fruit of the spirit.
  • 00:19:01.992 --> 00:19:05.963
  • Not the fruit of spirituality.
  • 00:19:05.963 --> 00:19:08.265
  • That's not even a thing.
  • 00:19:08.265 --> 00:19:09.733
  • The fruit of the holy spirit, a specific agent that lives in us
  • 00:19:09.733 --> 00:19:13.904
  • That produces fruit through us.
  • 00:19:13.904 --> 00:19:16.306
  • Not the fruit or the outcome of our best effort or our
  • 00:19:16.306 --> 00:19:20.210
  • Discipline, the fruit produced in us through the holy spirit.
  • 00:19:20.210 --> 00:19:23.580
  • Basically it's the outcome or the fruit of our submission to
  • 00:19:23.580 --> 00:19:28.118
  • God's spirit inside of us.
  • 00:19:28.118 --> 00:19:31.855
  • It's a whole different thing.
  • 00:19:31.855 --> 00:19:34.224
  • It is a process.
  • 00:19:34.224 --> 00:19:35.559
  • It takes time, and the result isn't more spirituality.
  • 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.929
  • The result is maturity.
  • 00:19:38.929 --> 00:19:41.365
  • Here's how he sets it up.
  • 00:19:41.365 --> 00:19:42.833
  • He says, "since," and this is kind of in the middle of a
  • 00:19:42.833 --> 00:19:45.035
  • Paragraph, "since we," talking about christians, "since we live
  • 00:19:45.035 --> 00:19:49.539
  • By the spirit," in other words, since god's spirit lives inside
  • 00:19:49.539 --> 00:19:53.844
  • Of you and you've been given new life, "let us keep in step
  • 00:19:53.844 --> 00:19:59.049
  • With," or in another place, he says, let us walk in accordance
  • 00:19:59.049 --> 00:20:02.152
  • With or walk by "the spirit."
  • 00:20:02.152 --> 00:20:04.288
  • But i love this phrase.
  • 00:20:04.288 --> 00:20:05.656
  • He says this isn't super, this isn't like spirituality.
  • 00:20:05.656 --> 00:20:09.126
  • This isn't hocus pocus, this isn't some weird thing.
  • 00:20:09.126 --> 00:20:11.662
  • He says, no, it's very simple.
  • 00:20:11.662 --> 00:20:13.964
  • You are to keep in step with the promptings of the holy spirit,
  • 00:20:13.964 --> 00:20:17.501
  • That is the holy spirit prompts you, you are to keep in step
  • 00:20:17.501 --> 00:20:20.771
  • With the spirit.
  • 00:20:20.771 --> 00:20:22.673
  • And how will we know?
  • 00:20:22.673 --> 00:20:24.708
  • How will we know if we're keeping up, if we're in step
  • 00:20:24.708 --> 00:20:27.077
  • With the holy spirit?
  • 00:20:27.077 --> 00:20:28.712
  • He says, well, others are gonna notice, but better than that,
  • 00:20:28.712 --> 00:20:32.182
  • Others are gonna be better off.
  • 00:20:32.182 --> 00:20:34.651
  • So here's what he says, he said, "the fruit of the spirit is,"
  • 00:20:34.651 --> 00:20:38.155
  • And then he lists them.
  • 00:20:38.155 --> 00:20:40.924
  • But, i don't need to show you the list.
  • 00:20:40.924 --> 00:20:46.396
  • Because you already know what would be on this list.
  • 00:20:46.396 --> 00:20:50.033
  • The fruit of the spirit is exactly what you hope your
  • 00:20:50.033 --> 00:20:53.737
  • Spouse is.
  • 00:20:53.737 --> 00:20:55.672
  • The fruit of the spirit is exactly what you hope your
  • 00:20:55.672 --> 00:20:57.474
  • Fiancé or boyfriend or girlfriend will strive to be.
  • 00:20:57.474 --> 00:21:01.411
  • If you're not a christian or you walked away from faith, and
  • 00:21:01.411 --> 00:21:03.980
  • Maybe you're thinking about coming back or somebody forced
  • 00:21:03.980 --> 00:21:05.849
  • You to watch this, if you're not a christian, here, here's the
  • 00:21:05.849 --> 00:21:07.918
  • Thing, i don't know you, but i would imagine the fruit of the
  • 00:21:07.918 --> 00:21:11.922
  • Spirit is actually what you strive to be.
  • 00:21:11.922 --> 00:21:19.329
  • And like me, you fail occasionally or often.
  • 00:21:19.329 --> 00:21:25.202
  • Just a quick list.
  • 00:21:25.202 --> 00:21:27.504
  • This isn't the full list just to kinda get us, get our heads
  • 00:21:27.504 --> 00:21:30.040
  • In this.
  • 00:21:30.040 --> 00:21:31.375
  • The fruit of the spirit is: you'll be good.
  • 00:21:31.375 --> 00:21:35.846
  • You'll be good at and good to.
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  • You'll be the person that's like, he's just such a
  • 00:21:39.683 --> 00:21:42.319
  • Great person.
  • 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:43.653
  • She's just, i don't know, just good.
  • 00:21:43.653 --> 00:21:47.324
  • The fruit of the spirit is patient.
  • 00:21:47.324 --> 00:21:50.861
  • And immediately some of you are like, "well, i'm out."
  • 00:21:50.861 --> 00:21:53.029
  • No, you need to be filled with the spirit, that's the point.
  • 00:21:53.029 --> 00:21:56.333
  • "well, i'm not good at that."
  • 00:21:56.333 --> 00:21:57.701
  • Exactly you're not good at that.
  • 00:21:57.701 --> 00:21:59.035
  • You're not, i don't know you, you're not good at any
  • 00:21:59.035 --> 00:22:00.504
  • Of these, okay?
  • 00:22:00.504 --> 00:22:01.838
  • I mean if the standard is the full measure of christ, isn't
  • 00:22:01.838 --> 00:22:06.076
  • There so much we all need to grow up in and mature to?
  • 00:22:06.076 --> 00:22:10.614
  • You know what patience is?
  • 00:22:10.614 --> 00:22:12.149
  • Patience is this.
  • 00:22:12.149 --> 00:22:13.917
  • I care more about you than i do my own progress.
  • 00:22:13.917 --> 00:22:18.822
  • Patience is i'm gonna choose to walk at your pace because i care
  • 00:22:18.822 --> 00:22:22.826
  • More about you than where we're going.
  • 00:22:22.826 --> 00:22:26.963
  • You are more important than my destination.
  • 00:22:26.963 --> 00:22:33.804
  • That's jesus in the gospels, patience.
  • 00:22:33.804 --> 00:22:38.975
  • Some of you are like, "my husband, my wife really needs
  • 00:22:38.975 --> 00:22:40.844
  • This series, i'm so glad--"
  • 00:22:40.844 --> 00:22:42.179
  • Okay, the kind, kind, you know what kindness is?
  • 00:22:42.179 --> 00:22:44.915
  • We've talked about this, kindness is so powerful.
  • 00:22:44.915 --> 00:22:47.451
  • Kindness is loaning someone else your strength rather than
  • 00:22:47.451 --> 00:22:52.088
  • Reminding them of their weakness.
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  • I'm not gonna remind you that you failed.
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  • I'm not gonna remind you that i reminded you.
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  • I'm just gonna pitch in, i'm gonna loan you my strength.
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  • This is the fruit of the spirit, it's kindness.
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  • And self-controlled, see.
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  • This changes the world.
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  • This this changes an economy.
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  • This changes perhaps anything that needs to be made better.
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  • And then paul in this list at the end of this list and we'll
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  • Show you one more in a minute, he makes the most
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  • Extraordinary statement.
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  • It's one of the most insightful statements in all the
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  • New testament.
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  • He says there is, this is amazing, there is no law against
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  • Any of these.
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  • In other words, there's a law against--you can only be so bad
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  • Before you they take you to a bad place, right?
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  • You can only be so impatient to the point that you're gonna lose
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  • A relationship.
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  • You can only be unkind to a certain level before you lose a
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  • Relationship or get arrested.
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  • Paul says, let me tell you about the fruit of the spirit.
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  • You can max them out, you can't overdo them.
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  • Because they are a manifestation of the character of your god and
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  • Your savior and your king.
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  • Oh, and faithful.
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  • See some of you have, are still trying to get over someone
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  • Being unfaithful.
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  • Some of you are wrestling with you being unfaithful.
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  • Because the temptation was just too much or they just, you know,
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  • They just didn't deserve your faithfulness anymore.
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  • And your savior has been faithful to you regardless of
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  • You and in spite of you, and he says, now i want to produce that
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  • In you.
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  • So imagine a family characterized by the fruit of
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  • The spirit.
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  • You know--when a relationship is characterized by the fruit of
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  • The spirit, you know what?
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  • You don't have any rules in that relationship.
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  • There are no rules because you don't need them, because if i'm
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  • For you and you're for me we don't have to have rules.
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  • You don't have to have laws.
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  • Because i'm for you, and you're for me.
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  • And i'm mature, and i'm gonna put you first.
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  • Imagine a community characterized by this.
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  • Imagine a city characterized by this.
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  • Imagine a nation characterized by all of that.
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  • If our nation was characterized by the fruit of the spirit, our
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  • Economy would be on fire forever, the productivity would
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  • Skyrocket, children would be safe, the world would be a
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  • Better place.
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  • Why do we resist it?
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  • This is again when i know this, this is a
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  • Lot of push back to this.
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  • I don't understand why everybody wouldn't want to follow jesus.
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  • This is what you want.
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  • This is what the world needs.
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  • This is what we all in our own way strive for.
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  • And paul says, i'm telling you, strive all you want, you'll go
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  • Do pretty good and you'll do better than others and you'll
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  • Have some strengths and some weaknesses.
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  • But i'm inviting you, he says.
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  • I'm inviting you to invite the holy spirit to produce these
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  • Things through you.
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  • And when you bump up against your inability and when we bump
  • 00:25:50.166 --> 00:25:52.569
  • Up against our insufficiency, that's our cue to hit pause and
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  • Say, "i can't, i can't, i need you.
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  • Before i walk through that door you gotta do something in me.
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  • Before i hit send and you, you gotta do something in me.
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  • Before i respond, before i bail out, before i turn it on, before
  • 00:26:05.615 --> 00:26:10.420
  • I turn it on, i--holy spirit, i need you to do through me what i
  • 00:26:10.420 --> 00:26:15.759
  • Cannot do on my own."
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  • And then the world changes.
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  • It's why we're here.
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  • You know this, our nation right now is focused on who our world
  • 00:26:23.266 --> 00:26:26.670
  • Needs now.
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  • Let's be what our world needs now.
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  • Last thing, and i'm done.
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  • If you're not a christian, perhaps you have encountered too
  • 00:26:33.843 --> 00:26:36.746
  • Many "spiritual" people who reminded you of how wrong you
  • 00:26:36.746 --> 00:26:40.316
  • Are, but they did not remind you of jesus.
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  • And if that's your experience with us, i'm sorry, and i have
  • 00:26:43.153 --> 00:26:46.890
  • Been guilty of that.
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  • And you need to know that you are not wrong to expect better
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  • Of us.
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  • And i just hope, i just hope that you will look past some of
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  • Us to the one in whose image we seek to be conformed because he
  • 00:26:56.533 --> 00:27:02.605
  • Is worth your attention.
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  • Andy: hey, thanks so much for watching.
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  • No religious affiliation.
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  • On a personal note, perhaps you found it nearly impossible to
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  • Believe that your son or your daughter or perhaps a grandchild
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  • Drifted away from faith as part of that number.
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  • This is a crisis culturally and perhaps for you it's a
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  • Crisis personally.
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  • At "your move" we are committed to addressing that crisis.
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  • We actually have a plan to solve it, but we need your help.
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