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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andy Stanley - How Good Is Good Enough? (Part 2) | May 24, 2025
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- Andy stanley: hey, everybody, welcome to "your move," where we
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- Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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- I'm andy stanley and i'll be your guide.
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- So, think about this, one of the many criticisms of christianity
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- Is that it's not fair, which is true, but that's actually good
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- News for you and for me and if you stick around, i will tell
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- You why right here on "your move."
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- ♪♪♪
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- Andy stanley: most people, certainly most americans,
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- Believe in heaven.
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- Not everybody views heaven the same way, and not everybody
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- Pictures heaven the same way, and not everybody is sure
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- Exactly what that's like.
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- But most americans believe there's a heaven and of course,
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- Maybe because we're americans, most americans believe they're
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- Gonna go there, and no american
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- Is in a hurry to get there, okay?
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- So that's kind of what we all have in common, even though we
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- View this different.
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- And there's, you know, there's so many questions, there's
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- Always mystery, there's so much mystery and we're busy, you
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- Know, who has time to think about that and it's just gonna
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- Work out.
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- But the assumption--there are two assumptions that kind of
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- Fuel this extraordinary confidence we have that somehow
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- It's all gonna work out, and we talked about this last time, and
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- The two assumptions are this: the good people go to heaven and
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- I'm a good person.
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- That somehow good people go to a good place after they die,
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- Because it's very difficult for human beings not to imagine that
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- There's an afterlife, even if we're not sure how the whole
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- Thing works out.
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- And the good people go to heaven and i'm a good person, this
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- Makes sense, and there's so many things--there are things that
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- Fuel this kind of thinking.
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- For example, it just seems fair.
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- I mean, it seems fair.
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- These assumptions are fueled by the idea that it's fair, that if
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- I'm a good person or if you're a good person, you should be
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- Rewarded for being good.
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- And if you're good in this life, then certainly, if there's an
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- Afterlife, it should be good.
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- The other idea, that fuels this--the reason it's so easy
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- To lean into this assumption that, you know, good people go
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- To heaven, i'm a good person, it's consistent with the notion
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- Of a good god.
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- I mean, a good god would want-- i mean, that's kind of, kind of,
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- Trite to say this, populate heaven with good people.
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- I mean, good god, good people that kind of works.
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- And then of course, the other thing that fuels this idea and
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- The reason we want to lean into it is that, of course, you make
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- The cut, right?
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- You make the cut because you're a good person, and you're a good
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- Person, especially compared to--right?
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- In fact, you're not just a good person, compared to some people,
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- You are an amazing person.
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- In fact, compared to most people, you're at least
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- Above average.
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- I mean, that's, you know, just sort of our positive self
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- Esteem, and we're not perfect.
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- I mean, we're quick to say nobody's perfect.
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- Isn't it interesting-- it's nobody's perfect.
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- In other words, i'm part of all the nobodies.
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- Nobody's perfect, okay.
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- But i'm certainly a good person, right?
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- But as we said last time, when you start examining this whole,
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- You know, good people go to heaven, you know, i'm a good
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- Person thing, it begins to fall apart really, really quickly.
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- And there are two or three things i wanna touch on that we
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- Talked about last week, then i'm gonna add fourth one as we
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- Continue this series.
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- And to begin with, the first thing that kind of undermines
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- This whole idea that, you know, good people go to heaven and i'm
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- A good person, is that good is a moving target.
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- Good is a moving target.
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- Historically, what was considered good 1,000 years ago
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- Is considered evil now.
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- What was considered evil 1,000 years ago in some capacity is
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- Actually considered good.
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- So depending on when you drop into history, the history of
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- Mankind, gosh, the definition of good, it's kind of all over
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- The place.
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- And it's good--it's different-- it's a moving target culturally.
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- I mean, right now you can go to different parts of the world,
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- And what's considered good in some parts of the world, we
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- Consider evil and what we consider evil in some parts of
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- The world, they consider good.
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- But the bible, the bible tells us what's good and bad, and the
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- Difference between right and wrong, is that some people want
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- To use the bible as the standard.
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- And as we said last time, that's a terrible idea because if the
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- Bible is the standard, you, in fact, don't make the cut.
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- You aren't a good person.
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- And i'm not judging you.
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- I'm just telling you if you hold your standard of behavior up
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- Against the bible standard of, you know, right and wrong, good
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- And bad, you're not all that good.
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- Paul, who wrote about half of the new testament, said, "there
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- Is no one righteous, not even one."
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- He says, he writes, no one will be declared righteous or good
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- Enough by keeping the law or by attempting to be good and keep
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- The rules.
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- And then a verse that many of us have heard our whole lives is,
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- "all have sinned," he writes, "and fall short."
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- Because of your sin, you fall short.
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- Now, i'm not judging you.
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- I'm just saying, when you pick up the new testament it's not
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- Pretty picture.
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- It's not a pretty picture and there's nothing in the new
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- Testament that says if you'll keep the following rules or the
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- Following commandments, then you go to heaven when you die.
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- So, if you're looking for an answer to the question, how good
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- Is good enough?
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- The bible is really of no help because we're not that good.
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- And then this was kind of the clincher last time if being good
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- Gets us to heaven, and yet god has been so mysterious in terms
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- Of refusing to even reveal universally and trans-culturally
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- What it means to be good.
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- If god failed to tell us how good we have to be to get
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- To heaven.
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- Again, is it a 50% cut, 70% cut, do thoughts and motives count,
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- Does our origin--family of origin count?
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- You know this--if god has refused to make it clear to us
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- How good we have to be to get to heaven, then the truth is, by
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- Our understanding, god is not good.
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- He's toying with us.
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- He's teasing us.
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- He's not just moving the goalpost, he's hiding it
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- From us.
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- And then there's this, and this is where we're gonna move on
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- From last time.
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- And i hope this bothers you a little bit.
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- I hope, really, it just makes you think a little bit or maybe
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- Rethink a little bit.
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- If only good people go to heaven, if only good people go
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- To heaven, then jesus was mistaken.
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- In fact he wasn't just mistaken, jesus was actually misleading.
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- And perhaps, since if good people go to heaven, then jesus
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- Wasn't just misleading, apparently jesus had
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- Been misled.
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- Because jesus did not teach that good people go to heaven.
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- I mean, follow jesus through the gospels and he levels the
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- Playing field.
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- In the sermon on the mount, in particular, he levels the
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- Playing field.
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- Jesus, this is amazing, he raised the standard of good
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- Enough so high, that everybody fell short.
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- Over and over and over, he said, you've heard it said, you've
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- Heard it said this is the standard.
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- I say this is the standard.
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- You've heard it said this is the standard.
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- I say this is the standard.
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- You've heard it said this is how good you have to be.
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- I say this is how good you have to be.
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- And by the end of it, his disciples are like, well, then
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- There's no hope, we're all doomed.
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- And jesus didn't say, oh, no, no, no, you misunderstood.
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- I think he just smiled and walked on like, yeah, you're
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- All doomed.
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- The pharisees are doomed, the fishermen are doomed, the men
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- Are doomed, the women are doomed, everybody's doomed.
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- But he has this big grin on his face because he's jesus,
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- Okay?
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- And he knew how to teach and get people's attention.
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- And here was the differentiator.
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- This is so important, especially if you're not a christian or
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- Used to be, this is so important.
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- If you grew up in church, this is so important for all of us
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- And it's so easy to miss because when we begin to read the bible
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- Or we begin to consider religion or consider christianity, we all
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- Bring with us a paradigm, we all bring with us a framework that
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- May or not be accurate.
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- But here's the thing that set jesus apart and this is why what
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- He taught was so different.
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- And this is also why it wasn't until after the resurrection
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- That his first century followers had their "oh" moment.
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- Jesus consistently rejected, jesus consistently rejected the
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- Religious notion that a person could be in good standing with
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- God while mistreating people god loves.
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- Jesus completely rejected the idea that you could be in a good
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- Standing with god, that you were in--that you and god, you were
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- On the same page, that you could be on the same page with god, in
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- Good standing with god, on your way to heaven, while at the same
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- Time mistreating people that god loved.
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- This was a game changer.
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- This was the show stopper.
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- This was the differentiator.
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- So before we move on, i wanna ask you a question and don't
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- Answer this out loud.
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- I already know the answer, even though we've never met.
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- Have you ever mistreated another person?
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- Have you ever, in your whole life, i mean, mistreated
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- Another person?
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- Maybe by accident, but hey, i don't think we all have to go
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- Too far back to know that we said things we shouldn't have
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- Said to people about that person that we knew in the moment we
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- Shouldn't say.
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- Have you ever mistreated another person?
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- See, doesn't this question level the playing field?
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- Does anybody stand up who's over, you know, 18 and say, "no,
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- I've never--i didn't mistreat my mom, i didn't mistreat my
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- Dad, i didn't mistreat my younger brother, i didn't
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- Mistreat those people at work, i didn't mistreat and say bad
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- Things about the people i disagree with politically, i
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- Didn't gossip, i've never gossiped, i've never lied, i've
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- Never mistreated anyone in my whole life."
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- This is the question, even though these are my words, not
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- Jesus, this is the question that jesus drew people's hearts and
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- Minds and emotions to, and when he did, everybody was guilty.
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- According to jesus, this makes you and makes me a sinner.
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- This is sin.
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- Now, again, real quick, if you're not a christian, you're
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- Gonna love this.
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- Isn't it true, if you're not a christian, not a jesus follower,
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- Not a religious person, isn't it true?
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- Doesn't it irritate you?
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- Doesn't it irritate you when christians, who claim to be
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- Right about god, like we got the corner on the market, we got god
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- All figured out, who claim to be right about god and who claim to
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- Be right with god because, you know, i'm right with god, god
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- Loves me.
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- I'm in good standing with god, doesn't it irritate you with
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- Christians who claim to be, you know, right about god and right
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- With god, turn around and mistreat and devalue
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- Other people.
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- Does that irritate you?
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- It should irritate you because it irritated jesus.
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- He had no patience.
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- Read it for yourself.
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- Matthew, mark, luke, and john, he had no patience.
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- He had no patience with internalized
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- Believe-only-religion that thought somehow i can do
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- Something in this life and be right with god, regardless of
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- How i treat or mistreat the people around me.
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- He had no patience with that.
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- What jesus taught is this, that when you sin against someone
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- That god loves, you sin against god.
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- Now, pause, imagine, if you're a christian specifically, imagine
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- If the church had maintained this standard since the time
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- Of jesus.
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- Imagine if the church decided, no, good and bad isn't, you
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- Know, something i'm doing to try to please god, so god likes me
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- And i went to church and i said this and i did this, and now,
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- Imagine if sin was viewed the way that jesus introduced the
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- Way the sin is to be viewed.
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- That i cannot be right with my father in heaven and mistreat
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- People my father in heaven loves.
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- And jesus, this is so revolutionary.
- 00:11:37.748 --> 00:11:40.684
- Jesus says, that's how god your father views the world and
- 00:11:40.684 --> 00:11:46.624
- Views people and views you and that's his definition of sin.
- 00:11:46.624 --> 00:11:51.729
- Sin isn't breaking some religious tradition, sin and
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- Being right with god isn't keeping some
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- Religious tradition.
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- It is all about how you treat the people that god loves.
- 00:11:58.369 --> 00:12:04.542
- So let me try to do my best jesus, level the playing field
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- One more time.
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- Have you ever mistreated another person?
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- If so, then, from the perspective of god, as presented
- 00:12:18.322 --> 00:12:24.328
- By jesus, you fall short of the goodness and the glory of god.
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- According to jesus, mistreating other people separates us from
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- God because that is sin, which means we are all doomed.
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- Every single one of us, even the nicest among you, even the worst
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- Among you, the best among you.
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- We're all doomed because god-- jesus raised the standard so
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- High when we say, i mean, i'm just, you know, put my words
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- Around what you're thinking or maybe feeling it's like, wait a
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- Minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, it can't be that way.
- 00:13:02.900 --> 00:13:06.503
- I mean, wait, wait, that's so unfair.
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- I mean, andy, that standard is way too high.
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- It is high and here's where we are all hypocrites, if we're
- 00:13:11.442 --> 00:13:15.880
- Not careful.
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- It may seem like too high of a standard when it comes to my
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- Behavior toward others.
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- But it sounds about right when it comes to others behavior
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- Toward me.
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- If you mistreat me, i think you fall short of the glory of god.
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- If you mistreat me and take advantage of me and steal from
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- Me or steal my ideas or mess up my reputation.
- 00:13:39.503 --> 00:13:42.606
- If you hurt or do something against me, then i feel like you
- 00:13:42.606 --> 00:13:47.111
- Aren't right with god.
- 00:13:47.111 --> 00:13:48.846
- And jesus smiles and says, exactly, welcome to the lost
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- Human race who don't even treat each other the way your heavenly
- 00:13:55.286 --> 00:14:02.593
- Father wants you to be treated.
- 00:14:02.593 --> 00:14:06.297
- And now, now we stumble upon the great differentiator between
- 00:14:06.297 --> 00:14:12.703
- Jesus and religion.
- 00:14:12.703 --> 00:14:16.006
- Good.
- 00:14:16.006 --> 00:14:17.474
- Good is a moving, confusing target.
- 00:14:17.474 --> 00:14:22.379
- As long as we view good as a bargaining chip for our benefit,
- 00:14:22.379 --> 00:14:27.885
- Good will always be a moving, confusing target.
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- How good do i have to be?
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- Is it 50% or 70%?
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- Do motives count against me?
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- Does my family of, you know, upbringing, does that impact?
- 00:14:36.627 --> 00:14:40.097
- Does my life experience impact?
- 00:14:40.097 --> 00:14:41.865
- How do i know?
- 00:14:41.865 --> 00:14:43.200
- Good will always be a moving and confusing target, as long as
- 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.704
- You're trying to use your good behavior as a bargaining chip
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- With god.
- 00:14:50.274 --> 00:14:51.642
- How good do i have to be to ensure heaven for me?
- 00:14:51.642 --> 00:14:55.713
- But good sits uncomfortably still when it comes to what's
- 00:14:55.713 --> 00:15:01.919
- Good for others, doesn't it?
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- As long as it's about you, as long as it's about me, it's
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- A fog.
- 00:15:08.926 --> 00:15:10.494
- But as soon as i look at you and your family and as soon as you
- 00:15:10.494 --> 00:15:14.598
- Look at me and my family, as soon as i look at you in your
- 00:15:14.598 --> 00:15:16.767
- Circumstances, i know what's good for you.
- 00:15:16.767 --> 00:15:20.537
- I know how to treat you well, i know the difference between
- 00:15:20.537 --> 00:15:23.974
- Right and wrong.
- 00:15:23.974 --> 00:15:25.342
- And i know the difference between good and bad.
- 00:15:25.342 --> 00:15:26.677
- And i know what's good for you and best for you.
- 00:15:26.677 --> 00:15:28.946
- And i know what would undermine your integrity, undermine your
- 00:15:28.946 --> 00:15:32.116
- Relationships, undermine your career.
- 00:15:32.116 --> 00:15:34.752
- And you know the same about me and this is the jesus version.
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- That what's best for him, what's best for them, what's best for
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- Her, that's what's best.
- 00:15:46.296 --> 00:15:49.133
- What--the question that we come back to all the time
- 00:15:49.133 --> 00:15:51.535
- Around here.
- 00:15:51.535 --> 00:15:52.903
- What does love for them require of me?
- 00:15:52.903 --> 00:15:55.439
- That is the standard and i fall short and you fall short.
- 00:15:55.439 --> 00:16:01.378
- Religion says, look up and try to make things right with god
- 00:16:01.378 --> 00:16:04.448
- Just between you and god.
- 00:16:04.448 --> 00:16:05.816
- Jesus says, no, i want you to look around, i want you to look
- 00:16:05.816 --> 00:16:11.188
- Around at the people around you, the people that god loves and
- 00:16:11.188 --> 00:16:14.358
- Don't think for a minute you can mistreat them and be good with
- 00:16:14.358 --> 00:16:17.027
- Your father in heaven.
- 00:16:17.027 --> 00:16:19.296
- By jesus's definition, we've all sinned and we all know it.
- 00:16:19.296 --> 00:16:26.303
- That is the bad news, but the bad news is what makes the good
- 00:16:26.303 --> 00:16:32.443
- News such good news.
- 00:16:32.443 --> 00:16:34.211
- It's no mistake that in the first century, think about it,
- 00:16:34.211 --> 00:16:37.114
- We overlook this, we, you know, we have different words we use,
- 00:16:37.114 --> 00:16:40.551
- We say words, don't think about what they mean.
- 00:16:40.551 --> 00:16:42.319
- The word "gospel," "euangelion," means good news.
- 00:16:42.319 --> 00:16:45.255
- The reason it was called good news is because when jesus
- 00:16:45.255 --> 00:16:48.926
- Showed up, he leveled the playing field and introduced
- 00:16:48.926 --> 00:16:52.663
- Hope all at the same time.
- 00:16:52.663 --> 00:16:54.565
- That's why he could say the things that he said with a smile
- 00:16:54.565 --> 00:16:56.800
- On his face.
- 00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:58.168
- That's why, at the end of the day it wasn't, oh, just gloom
- 00:16:58.168 --> 00:17:00.204
- And doom and we're hopeless and we're all damned and we all
- 00:17:00.204 --> 00:17:02.573
- Fall short.
- 00:17:02.573 --> 00:17:04.007
- It's called good news because of the bad news.
- 00:17:04.007 --> 00:17:07.578
- That jesus, think about this, jesus is the only person in
- 00:17:07.578 --> 00:17:11.682
- History, no one's even claimed this before, no one's even
- 00:17:11.682 --> 00:17:14.051
- Claimed this about another person before.
- 00:17:14.051 --> 00:17:16.653
- That jesus is the only person in history to offer a succinct and
- 00:17:16.653 --> 00:17:20.524
- Clarifying answer to the question of how good is
- 00:17:20.524 --> 00:17:25.529
- Good enough.
- 00:17:25.529 --> 00:17:26.864
- And do you know what his answer was?
- 00:17:26.864 --> 00:17:28.532
- Or is?
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- You ready?
- 00:17:29.900 --> 00:17:31.235
- It's offensive in the first century.
- 00:17:31.235 --> 00:17:32.803
- It got him crucified.
- 00:17:32.803 --> 00:17:34.338
- How good is good enough?
- 00:17:34.338 --> 00:17:38.909
- That good and you're not that good and i'm not that good and
- 00:17:38.909 --> 00:17:46.550
- It's why you need a savior, not a list, not an 11th commandment,
- 00:17:46.550 --> 00:17:54.625
- Not a loophole, not a work around, not an excuse, not a
- 00:17:54.625 --> 00:17:59.596
- Do over.
- 00:17:59.596 --> 00:18:01.098
- It's why you need, it's why i need, it's why the world needed
- 00:18:01.098 --> 00:18:06.570
- A savior.
- 00:18:06.570 --> 00:18:08.205
- This is why it's called good news because jesus was the only
- 00:18:08.205 --> 00:18:14.578
- One good enough to do for us what we could not do
- 00:18:14.578 --> 00:18:18.315
- For ourselves.
- 00:18:18.315 --> 00:18:20.651
- The apostle paul, who as you know, steps onto the pages of
- 00:18:20.651 --> 00:18:24.254
- History as a pharisee, a do-gooder.
- 00:18:24.254 --> 00:18:27.291
- I mean, he--in fact, he brags when he talks about his little
- 00:18:27.291 --> 00:18:29.826
- Autobiography, he's like, i was the best, i was the best.
- 00:18:29.826 --> 00:18:33.197
- I was the best of--all the do-gooders, i was the
- 00:18:33.197 --> 00:18:35.599
- Best do-gooder.
- 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:36.967
- Nobody kept the law as well as i did.
- 00:18:36.967 --> 00:18:39.536
- And then he meets jesus and all falls short.
- 00:18:39.536 --> 00:18:42.139
- I mean he, the do-gooder pharisee, is the one who wrote
- 00:18:42.139 --> 00:18:44.675
- The words for all have sinned and fall short of the glory
- 00:18:44.675 --> 00:18:47.844
- Of god.
- 00:18:47.844 --> 00:18:49.179
- Paul, even you, paul is like, you know what paul said
- 00:18:49.179 --> 00:18:50.647
- About himself?
- 00:18:50.647 --> 00:18:51.982
- Some of you know this, he said of all the sinners in the world
- 00:18:51.982 --> 00:18:53.850
- In the first century.
- 00:18:53.850 --> 00:18:55.185
- He said, i am the chief among sinners.
- 00:18:55.185 --> 00:18:58.288
- Wait, paul, how could you be the chief among sinners?
- 00:18:58.288 --> 00:18:59.957
- You kept the law perfectly you say.
- 00:18:59.957 --> 00:19:02.659
- He's like, yeah, but i mistreated people like no one
- 00:19:02.659 --> 00:19:08.699
- Else i've ever met.
- 00:19:08.699 --> 00:19:12.636
- And he becomes a jesus follower.
- 00:19:12.636 --> 00:19:14.972
- And here's what he says to kind of put all of this together,
- 00:19:14.972 --> 00:19:17.341
- Hopefully in terms that us gentiles could understand
- 00:19:17.341 --> 00:19:19.610
- Because he was writing to gentiles who were just--had so
- 00:19:19.610 --> 00:19:22.212
- Many questions about jesus in the city of corinth.
- 00:19:22.212 --> 00:19:24.781
- Here's what he writes: he says, "we beg you," he and his guys,
- 00:19:24.781 --> 00:19:29.019
- "we beg you on behalf of christ," which means this is
- 00:19:29.019 --> 00:19:31.822
- What christ is begging you to do.
- 00:19:31.822 --> 00:19:33.690
- This is jesus's desire for you.
- 00:19:33.690 --> 00:19:36.026
- We beg you on behalf of christ.
- 00:19:36.026 --> 00:19:37.861
- Be reconciled to god.
- 00:19:37.861 --> 00:19:41.098
- That is, you and god don't fit, we want you to fit, and there's
- 00:19:41.098 --> 00:19:44.768
- Something that you--you have a part in this, you have a role to
- 00:19:44.768 --> 00:19:47.971
- Play in this.
- 00:19:47.971 --> 00:19:49.339
- We want you to be reconciled to god, we want you to be right
- 00:19:49.339 --> 00:19:51.208
- With god, we want you to be in a right relationship with god.
- 00:19:51.208 --> 00:19:54.978
- And i was like, okay paul, you want us to be reconciled to god,
- 00:19:54.978 --> 00:19:57.881
- What do we do?
- 00:19:57.881 --> 00:19:59.449
- You know, jump high or duck low or try it hard or be good or--
- 00:19:59.449 --> 00:20:02.586
- He goes, no, no, no, no, no.
- 00:20:02.586 --> 00:20:04.021
- Then listen to what he says.
- 00:20:04.021 --> 00:20:05.489
- And the--this is tricky, but this is amazing.
- 00:20:05.489 --> 00:20:09.092
- You're smart, you'll understand this.
- 00:20:09.092 --> 00:20:11.662
- He says, "god made him," jesus, "who knew no sin to be sin
- 00:20:11.662 --> 00:20:21.672
- On our behalf."
- 00:20:21.672 --> 00:20:25.609
- That god made jesus who knew no sin, which means he did no sin,
- 00:20:25.609 --> 00:20:30.681
- To become sin on our behalf so that we, he did this for us.
- 00:20:30.681 --> 00:20:38.922
- He did for you what you could not do for yourself on your very
- 00:20:38.922 --> 00:20:42.125
- Best day, so that we--he did something that--he did
- 00:20:42.125 --> 00:20:45.762
- Something for us that we couldn't do on our own.
- 00:20:45.762 --> 00:20:47.998
- It was impossible for us to do.
- 00:20:47.998 --> 00:20:50.334
- So that we, look at this, might become, don't go too fast, might
- 00:20:50.334 --> 00:20:55.639
- Become, in other words, not do, become.
- 00:20:55.639 --> 00:20:58.408
- Paul says because of what jesus did for you, he has paved the
- 00:20:58.408 --> 00:21:02.279
- Way for you to become something different, become something new.
- 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:07.351
- It's not a do, it's a new status.
- 00:21:07.351 --> 00:21:09.753
- It's a new standing.
- 00:21:09.753 --> 00:21:11.121
- It's a new type of relationship with god.
- 00:21:11.121 --> 00:21:13.790
- That you might become, look at this, "the righteousness of god
- 00:21:13.790 --> 00:21:18.662
- In him."
- 00:21:18.662 --> 00:21:19.996
- Paul is like, i wish i could explain it better.
- 00:21:19.996 --> 00:21:22.032
- I wish i had better words.
- 00:21:22.032 --> 00:21:23.533
- But the best way i can say it is this: that god, through christ,
- 00:21:23.533 --> 00:21:28.538
- Gave you his righteousness.
- 00:21:28.538 --> 00:21:32.642
- That god, through christ, gave you a right standing with jesus,
- 00:21:32.642 --> 00:21:37.714
- That he transferred onto you and transferred on to me what we
- 00:21:37.714 --> 00:21:41.585
- Could never earn on our own.
- 00:21:41.585 --> 00:21:43.286
- He didn't, this is amazing, he didn't just take our place,
- 00:21:43.286 --> 00:21:47.124
- Jesus gave us a brand new place, a brand new type of relationship
- 00:21:47.124 --> 00:21:53.463
- With god not based on anything we could do because we all fell
- 00:21:53.463 --> 00:21:56.833
- Short, but based on what only jesus could do.
- 00:21:56.833 --> 00:21:59.436
- And jesus took his righteousness and he made it available to you
- 00:21:59.436 --> 00:22:05.175
- So that we would have what he had with god and he took upon
- 00:22:05.175 --> 00:22:10.414
- Himself all of your falling short and all of my falling
- 00:22:10.414 --> 00:22:14.785
- Short, all of my sin and all of yours based on nothing
- 00:22:14.785 --> 00:22:20.390
- We've done.
- 00:22:20.390 --> 00:22:22.292
- Based on what was done for us.
- 00:22:22.292 --> 00:22:27.431
- According to jesus, good people, they don't go to heaven.
- 00:22:27.431 --> 00:22:34.704
- Because compared to jesus, there aren't any good people.
- 00:22:34.704 --> 00:22:39.576
- Good people don't go to heaven.
- 00:22:39.576 --> 00:22:40.977
- You know who goes to heaven?
- 00:22:40.977 --> 00:22:42.379
- Forgiven people, that's who goes to heaven.
- 00:22:42.379 --> 00:22:45.749
- And jesus underscored this throughout his entire life,
- 00:22:45.749 --> 00:22:49.753
- Right up to the bitter end of his life because this was the
- 00:22:49.753 --> 00:22:55.025
- Point of his life.
- 00:22:55.025 --> 00:22:58.161
- Luke, who researched thoroughly everything that had anything to
- 00:22:58.161 --> 00:23:01.865
- Do with jesus in the first century, and brought us the
- 00:23:01.865 --> 00:23:03.834
- Gospel of luke.
- 00:23:03.834 --> 00:23:05.202
- Listen to what he records based on the eye witnesses who were
- 00:23:05.202 --> 00:23:07.604
- There that he talked to later.
- 00:23:07.604 --> 00:23:09.072
- This is amazing.
- 00:23:09.072 --> 00:23:10.540
- It says that when they, this is at the end of jesus life, "when
- 00:23:10.540 --> 00:23:13.777
- They came to the place called the skull," jesus has already
- 00:23:13.777 --> 00:23:16.847
- Been arrested.
- 00:23:16.847 --> 00:23:18.215
- He's been beaten, he's been tried, and now he's about to
- 00:23:18.215 --> 00:23:21.318
- Be crucified.
- 00:23:21.318 --> 00:23:22.686
- "when they came to the place called the skull, they crucified
- 00:23:22.686 --> 00:23:24.621
- Him there along with the criminals."
- 00:23:24.621 --> 00:23:27.591
- And luke says, i know this is hard to believe.
- 00:23:27.591 --> 00:23:31.261
- I know that anyone who has ever seen a crucifixion before will
- 00:23:31.261 --> 00:23:33.964
- Find this almost impossible to believe.
- 00:23:33.964 --> 00:23:36.533
- But peter was there and mary was there and martha was there and
- 00:23:36.533 --> 00:23:40.871
- John was there and james was there and this is what they said
- 00:23:40.871 --> 00:23:45.408
- He said.
- 00:23:45.408 --> 00:23:46.776
- Jesus looked down from the cross and he said, "father, forgive
- 00:23:46.776 --> 00:23:56.286
- All of them."
- 00:23:56.286 --> 00:23:59.155
- Father, don't hold their sin against them.
- 00:23:59.155 --> 00:24:06.463
- Father, don't make them pay for what they did and what they are
- 00:24:06.463 --> 00:24:14.271
- Doing, even though they know they're doing wrong.
- 00:24:14.271 --> 00:24:19.576
- This is not just, this is not justice, this is not fair, this
- 00:24:19.576 --> 00:24:23.280
- Is not fairness.
- 00:24:23.280 --> 00:24:25.181
- Do you know what that is?
- 00:24:25.181 --> 00:24:28.585
- It's this word, it's grace, it's getting what we don't deserve.
- 00:24:28.585 --> 00:24:35.358
- It's mercy, it's not getting what we do deserve.
- 00:24:35.358 --> 00:24:42.065
- And that's good news.
- 00:24:42.065 --> 00:24:46.369
- Religion.
- 00:24:46.369 --> 00:24:47.904
- Religion has always been defined by do.
- 00:24:47.904 --> 00:24:53.076
- Jesus rejected that whole paradigm.
- 00:24:53.076 --> 00:24:55.745
- His message was simply this: done.
- 00:24:55.745 --> 00:24:59.883
- Done. done.
- 00:24:59.883 --> 00:25:02.619
- Let me say it more directly.
- 00:25:02.619 --> 00:25:05.255
- There's nothing you can do.
- 00:25:05.255 --> 00:25:07.524
- There's nothing you can do to make up for you.
- 00:25:07.524 --> 00:25:18.602
- There is just a gift to be received, the gift
- 00:25:10.961 --> 00:25:22.505
- Of forgiveness.
- 00:25:22.505 --> 00:25:23.840
- A right standing with god, that god through christ transfers his
- 00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:28.878
- Righteousness onto you.
- 00:25:28.878 --> 00:25:30.947
- Ready for this?
- 00:25:30.947 --> 00:25:32.282
- Just because he wants to.
- 00:25:32.282 --> 00:25:36.319
- How great is the father's love that he would bestow upon us the
- 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:42.626
- Standing that his very son has with him?
- 00:25:42.626 --> 00:25:49.499
- Jesus declared you a sinner, then he died for your sin, or so
- 00:25:49.499 --> 00:25:56.506
- He claimed.
- 00:25:56.506 --> 00:25:57.874
- But of course, anybody could claim that, right?
- 00:25:57.874 --> 00:25:59.542
- I mean, isn't that the gotcha?
- 00:25:59.542 --> 00:26:00.910
- How do we know?
- 00:26:00.910 --> 00:26:02.245
- Again, the apostle paul just a few years after these events,
- 00:26:02.245 --> 00:26:04.948
- Summarizes it perfectly and i'm gonna close with this.
- 00:26:04.948 --> 00:26:08.151
- "i wanna remind you of the good news.
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- I preach you that christ died for our sins and he was buried,"
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- You know why he was buried?
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- Because that's what you do, when someone dies.
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- He was actually dead.
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- They saw where he was buried.
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- He didn't swoon, he didn't pretend, there wasn't a
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- Confusion at the last minute.
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- He was buried.
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- "that he was raised from the dead on the third day."
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- And then here's what he writes about 15, 20 years after
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- These events.
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- "and then he appeared to peter," paul how do you know that?
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- Because i know peter, he appeared to peter.
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- Then he appeared to all the apostles.
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- Then he appeared to more than 500 people all at one time and
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- He goes on to say, and some of them are asleep, but many of
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- Them are still alive.
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- If you don't believe me, just visit judea, they're everywhere,
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- These followers of jesus.
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- And then, i love this, and then he appeared to james, you know
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- Who james was.
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- The brother of jesus.
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- And of course, james shows up as a leader in the first century
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- Church because he saw his brother crucified and then he
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- Met his brother afterwards and he consists, this is amazing.
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- Read the book of james, a little letter in the new testament
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- Written by the brother of jesus, how fascinating is that?
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- And james calls his brother, his lord.
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- It's good news.
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- The bad news is you.
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- The bad news is me.
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- The bad news is the playing field has been leveled.
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- The bad news is you have mistreated people god loves.
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- The bad news is you are a sinner and you are separated from god,
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- We all are.
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- And then jesus, who declared as much, came and paid for
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- Your sin.
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- Andy: hey everybody, thank you so much for tuning in.
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