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Better Together LIVE | Episode 123

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October 14, 2020
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Better Together LIVE | Episode 123

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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: HURT
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: HURTFEELINGS, RESENTMENT,
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  • FEELINGS, RESENTMENT,UNHAPPINESS --
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  • UNHAPPINESS --GOD KNOWS THE PAIN WE
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  • GOD KNOWS THE PAIN WECARRY IN OUR HEARTS AND
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  • CARRY IN OUR HEARTS ANDHE WANTS US TO LET IT GO.
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  • HE WANTS US TO LET IT GO.TODAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW
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  • TODAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOWTO MOVE ON FROM OFFENCE AND
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  • TO MOVE ON FROM OFFENCE ANDFIND HEALING FOR BROKEN
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  • FIND HEALING FOR BROKENRELATIONSHIPS.
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  • RELATIONSHIPS.COME ON, JOIN US.
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  • COME ON, JOIN US.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- LISA HARPER: I HEARD THIS
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  • - LISA HARPER: I HEARD THISSERMON SERIES RECENTLY ON
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  • SERMON SERIES RECENTLY ONFORGIVENESS.
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  • FORGIVENESS.AND YOU KNOW HOW GOD WILL JUST
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  • AND YOU KNOW HOW GOD WILL JUSTKEEP BRINGING STUFF BACK UP,
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  • KEEP BRINGING STUFF BACK UP,AND, HOPEFULLY, IT'S AT A
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  • AND, HOPEFULLY, IT'S AT ADEEPER LEVEL.
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  • DEEPER LEVEL.THIS PASTOR SAID TO WRITE
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  • THIS PASTOR SAID TO WRITEA LETTER OR AN EMAIL TO
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  • A LETTER OR AN EMAIL TOSOMEBODY WHO'D REALLY WINDED
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  • SOMEBODY WHO'D REALLY WINDEDYOU, WHERE YOU FELT LIKE
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  • YOU, WHERE YOU FELT LIKEYOU STILL CARRIED AN OFFENCE.
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  • YOU STILL CARRIED AN OFFENCE.AND THERE WAS THIS WOMAN THAT
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  • AND THERE WAS THIS WOMAN THATIMMEDIATELY CAME TO MIND.
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  • IMMEDIATELY CAME TO MIND.WE GOT TO DO MINISTRY TOGETHER
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  • WE GOT TO DO MINISTRY TOGETHERIN MY 20s.
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  • IN MY 20s.AND, AT ONE AFTERNOON, WE WERE
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  • AND, AT ONE AFTERNOON, WE WEREAT A GIRLS' CAMP, A
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  • AT A GIRLS' CAMP, ACHRISTIAN GIRLS' CAMP.
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  • CHRISTIAN GIRLS' CAMP.AND I WAS IN A YOUNG WOMAN'S
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  • AND I WAS IN A YOUNG WOMAN'SCAR THAT I WAS TRYING TO SHARE
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  • CAR THAT I WAS TRYING TO SHARETHE LORD WITH.
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  • THE LORD WITH.AND THIS PARTICULAR GIRL COMES
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  • AND THIS PARTICULAR GIRL COMESUP -- THE WINDOW WAS DOWN,
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  • UP -- THE WINDOW WAS DOWN,I'M IN THE PASSENGER SEAT.
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  • I'M IN THE PASSENGER SEAT.AND THE GIRL I WAS TRYING TO
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  • AND THE GIRL I WAS TRYING TOSHARE THE LORD WITH HAD A
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  • SHARE THE LORD WITH HAD ABIG BOTTLE OF JACK DANIEL'S
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  • BIG BOTTLE OF JACK DANIEL'SIN HER CAR.
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  • IN HER CAR.AND THAT WASN'T MY
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  • AND THAT WASN'T MYJACK DANIEL'S.
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  • JACK DANIEL'S.- LAURIE: OH, DEAR...
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  • - LAURIE: OH, DEAR...[LAUGHS]
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  • [LAUGHS]- LISA: UM...AND, FRANKLY,
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  • - LISA: UM...AND, FRANKLY,I...DURING THE PRODIGAL SEASON,
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  • I...DURING THE PRODIGAL SEASON,GOT VERY SICK ON JACK.
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  • GOT VERY SICK ON JACK.AND SO, THAT IS NOT MY...MY SIN
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  • AND SO, THAT IS NOT MY...MY SINNATURE, ANYMORE.
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  • NATURE, ANYMORE.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]BUT, ANYWAY, SHE NOTICED
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  • BUT, ANYWAY, SHE NOTICEDTHAT, LOOKED UP AT ME, AND, YOU
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  • THAT, LOOKED UP AT ME, AND, YOUKNOW HOW YOU CAN TELL IT, LIKE,
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  • KNOW HOW YOU CAN TELL IT, LIKE,GETS ON 'EM LIKE GOSSIP JOY.
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  • GETS ON 'EM LIKE GOSSIP JOY.I JUST SAW THE SPIRIT OF GOSSIP
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  • I JUST SAW THE SPIRIT OF GOSSIPJUMP ON HER --
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  • JUMP ON HER --AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING,
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  • AND I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING,'CAUSE I THOUGHT: I'M
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  • 'CAUSE I THOUGHT: I'MNOT GONNA OUT THIS GIRL I'M
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  • NOT GONNA OUT THIS GIRL I'MTRYIN' TO SHARE THE...YOU KNOW,
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  • TRYIN' TO SHARE THE...YOU KNOW,THE...THE GOSPEL WITH.
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  • THE...THE GOSPEL WITH.WELL, SURE ENOUGH, I MEAN
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  • WELL, SURE ENOUGH, I MEANWITHIN A COUPLE DAYS, SHE HAD
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  • WITHIN A COUPLE DAYS, SHE HADSPREAD ALL THROUGH THIS...THIS
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  • SPREAD ALL THROUGH THIS...THISMINISTRY WE BOTH WORKED IN THAT
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  • MINISTRY WE BOTH WORKED IN THATI WAS A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE I WAS
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  • I WAS A HYPOCRITE BECAUSE I WASTEACHIN' BIBLE STUDIES, BUT I
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  • TEACHIN' BIBLE STUDIES, BUT IWAS ALSO REALLY STRUGGLING
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  • WAS ALSO REALLY STRUGGLINGWITH-- WITH ALCOHOL.
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  • WITH-- WITH ALCOHOL.[JOYCE CHUCKLES]
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  • [JOYCE CHUCKLES]AND I...I NEVER SAID ANYTHING.
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  • AND I...I NEVER SAID ANYTHING.I THOUGHT: YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE
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  • I THOUGHT: YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLEWHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT THAT'S
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  • WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT THAT'SNOT MY CHARACTER.
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  • NOT MY CHARACTER.BUT IT WEDGED IN MY SPIRIT.
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  • BUT IT WEDGED IN MY SPIRIT.BECAUSE I WAS JUST INDIGNANT
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  • BECAUSE I WAS JUST INDIGNANTTHAT SHE WOULD MAKE THAT UP.
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  • THAT SHE WOULD MAKE THAT UP.SHE DIDN'T ASK ME, DIDN'T HAVE
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  • SHE DIDN'T ASK ME, DIDN'T HAVETHE DECENCY.
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  • THE DECENCY.WELL, ANYWAY, THAT WAS...20
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  • WELL, ANYWAY, THAT WAS...20YEARS AGO.
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  • YEARS AGO.WELL, HE STARTED DOING THIS--
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  • WELL, HE STARTED DOING THIS--THIS SERMON AND I IMMEDIATELY
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  • THIS SERMON AND I IMMEDIATELYSAW THAT GIRL'S FACE, AND I
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  • SAW THAT GIRL'S FACE, AND ITHOUGHT: OH, MAAAAN...SURELY,
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  • THOUGHT: OH, MAAAAN...SURELY,I'M NOT STILL CARRYIN' THAT
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  • I'M NOT STILL CARRYIN' THATOFFENCE.
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  • OFFENCE.BUT I THOUGHT: YOU KNOW, I'M
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  • BUT I THOUGHT: YOU KNOW, I'MGONNA BE DUTIFUL.
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  • GONNA BE DUTIFUL.I THINK THIS IS MAYBE
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  • I THINK THIS IS MAYBEHOLY SPIRIT, NOT CAFFEINE.
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  • HOLY SPIRIT, NOT CAFFEINE.AND SO, I WROTE HER AN EMAIL.
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  • AND SO, I WROTE HER AN EMAIL.HE SAID TO BLESS THEM --
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  • HE SAID TO BLESS THEM --NOT BRING UP THE OFFENCE;
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  • NOT BRING UP THE OFFENCE;JUST TO BLESS THEM.
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  • JUST TO BLESS THEM.- CECE WINANS: THAT'S RIGHT.
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  • - CECE WINANS: THAT'S RIGHT.- LISA: SO, I BLESSED HER.
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  • - LISA: SO, I BLESSED HER.AND-- AND I WENT BACK TO THAT
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  • AND-- AND I WENT BACK TO THATVERSE THAT SAYS: IF YOU BLESS
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  • VERSE THAT SAYS: IF YOU BLESSYOUR ENEMIES, IT'LL HEAP COALS
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  • YOUR ENEMIES, IT'LL HEAP COALSOF FIRE ON THEIR HEAD.
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  • OF FIRE ON THEIR HEAD.THAT'S...PART OF THE REASON I
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  • THAT'S...PART OF THE REASON IDID IT.
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  • DID IT.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]BUT I WAS TRYING TO DO IN
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  • BUT I WAS TRYING TO DO INGOOD FAITH.
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  • GOOD FAITH.AND SHE CALLED ME, AND, Y'ALL
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  • AND SHE CALLED ME, AND, Y'ALLIT WAS SO FUNNY, BECAUSE, THE
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  • IT WAS SO FUNNY, BECAUSE, THEFIRST THING SHE SAID WAS: "I AM
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  • FIRST THING SHE SAID WAS: "I AMSO GLAD GOD HAS SOFTENED
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  • SO GLAD GOD HAS SOFTENEDYOUR HEART UP.
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  • YOUR HEART UP.I'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR YOU ALL
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  • I'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR YOU ALLTHESE YEARS."
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  • THESE YEARS."- LAURIE: WOW...
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  • - LAURIE: WOW...- LISA: AND I THOUGHT: DOGGONE
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  • - LISA: AND I THOUGHT: DOGGONEYOUR HIDE.
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  • YOUR HIDE.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]YOU KNOW, I EXPECTED HER TO GO,
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  • YOU KNOW, I EXPECTED HER TO GO,YOU KNOW: "LISA, I WAS SUCH A
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  • YOU KNOW: "LISA, I WAS SUCH AYAHOO ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.
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  • YAHOO ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.PLEASE FORGIVE ME."
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  • PLEASE FORGIVE ME."AND IT'S LIKE: I REALIZED IN
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  • AND IT'S LIKE: I REALIZED INTHAT MOMENT THAT THE REASON I
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  • THAT MOMENT THAT THE REASON IWAS STILL HOLDIN' ON TO THE
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  • WAS STILL HOLDIN' ON TO THEOFFENCE IS I WAS TRYING TO
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  • OFFENCE IS I WAS TRYING TOCONTROL HOW GOD CONVICTED HER
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  • CONTROL HOW GOD CONVICTED HERAND DISCIPLINED HER.
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  • AND DISCIPLINED HER.AND, I MEAN, I SAT THERE AND I
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  • AND, I MEAN, I SAT THERE AND IWAS LIKE: I AM SO SORRY.
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  • WAS LIKE: I AM SO SORRY.NO WONDER YOU BROUGHT THIS UP.
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  • NO WONDER YOU BROUGHT THIS UP.I'M HOLDIN' ONTO THE EVENTS
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  • I'M HOLDIN' ONTO THE EVENTSBECAUSE I'M TRYIN' TO BE THE
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  • BECAUSE I'M TRYIN' TO BE THEDISCIPLINARIAN AND DO THE JOB
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  • DISCIPLINARIAN AND DO THE JOBOF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
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  • OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.- JOYCE MEYER: FIRST OF ALL,
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  • - JOYCE MEYER: FIRST OF ALL,DON'T YOU JUST HATE IT WHEN GOD
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  • DON'T YOU JUST HATE IT WHEN GODDEALS WITH YOU BUT HE DOESN'T
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  • DEALS WITH YOU BUT HE DOESN'TDEAL WITH THE OTHER PERSON?
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  • DEAL WITH THE OTHER PERSON?[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]- LISA: I KINDA DID A LITTLE.
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  • - LISA: I KINDA DID A LITTLE.I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE GOT
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  • I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE GOTHIVES...OR SOMETHIN'.
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  • HIVES...OR SOMETHIN'.- LAURIE: RIGHT?
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  • - LAURIE: RIGHT?- JOYCE: I DON'T MIND BEIN'
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  • - JOYCE: I DON'T MIND BEIN'DEALT WITH, BUT...
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  • DEALT WITH, BUT...- CECE: BUT DEAL WITH THEM,
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  • - CECE: BUT DEAL WITH THEM,TOO.
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  • TOO.- JOYCE: HONESTLY, I DID THIS
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  • - JOYCE: HONESTLY, I DID THISONE TIME.
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  • ONE TIME.I WENT-- 'CAUSE DAVE JUST
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  • I WENT-- 'CAUSE DAVE JUSTNEVER...WELL, HE JUST...
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  • NEVER...WELL, HE JUST...DOESN'T APOLOGIZE.
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  • DOESN'T APOLOGIZE.[ENTHUSIASTIC LAUGHTER]
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  • [ENTHUSIASTIC LAUGHTER]HE JUST...YOU KNOW, HE JUST...
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  • HE JUST...YOU KNOW, HE JUST...- LAURIE: THAT'S MATT, TOO.
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  • - LAURIE: THAT'S MATT, TOO.- JOYCE: I DON'T KNOW IF HE
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  • - JOYCE: I DON'T KNOW IF HEDOESN'T THINK HE DOES ANYTHING
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  • DOESN'T THINK HE DOES ANYTHINGOR--
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  • OR--HE'S JUST A REAL LOVING...
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  • HE'S JUST A REAL LOVING...EASYGOIN' GUY.
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  • EASYGOIN' GUY.AND I SAID TO HIM, ONE TIME,
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  • AND I SAID TO HIM, ONE TIME,I SAID, "SO...HAS GOD BEEN
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  • I SAID, "SO...HAS GOD BEENDEALING WITH YOU ABOUT
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  • DEALING WITH YOU ABOUTANYTHING?"
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  • ANYTHING?"[BOISTEROUS LAUGHTER]
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  • [BOISTEROUS LAUGHTER]I ACTUALLY SAID THAT: "HAS GOD
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  • I ACTUALLY SAID THAT: "HAS GODBEEN DEALING WITH YOU ABOUT
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  • BEEN DEALING WITH YOU ABOUTANYTHING?"
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  • ANYTHING?"AND HE THOUGHT A MINUTE AND HE
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  • AND HE THOUGHT A MINUTE AND HESAID, "MM...NAH, I DON'T THINK
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  • SAID, "MM...NAH, I DON'T THINKSO."
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  • SO."AND I JUST THOUGHT...GOD!
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  • AND I JUST THOUGHT...GOD!WHY IS IT ALWAYS ME?
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  • WHY IS IT ALWAYS ME?IT'S ALWAYS ME!
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  • IT'S ALWAYS ME![HEARTY LAUGHTER]
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  • [HEARTY LAUGHTER]- CECE: ALWAYS.
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  • - CECE: ALWAYS.- JOYCE: I REALLY TRY TO
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  • - JOYCE: I REALLY TRY TOBELIEVE THE BEST OF PEOPLE, AND
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  • BELIEVE THE BEST OF PEOPLE, ANDTHAT, WELL, YOU DIDN'T OFFEND
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  • THAT, WELL, YOU DIDN'T OFFENDME ON PURPOSE.
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  • ME ON PURPOSE.- LISA: RIGHT.
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  • - LISA: RIGHT.- JOYCE: AND I DO BELIEVE
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  • - JOYCE: AND I DO BELIEVETHAT'S TRUE.
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  • THAT'S TRUE.I THINK THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE
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  • I THINK THAT VERY FEW PEOPLEARE JUST GONNA OFFEND YOU ON
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  • ARE JUST GONNA OFFEND YOU ONPURPOSE, OR JUST GONNA BE
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  • PURPOSE, OR JUST GONNA BEOBNOXIOUS ON PURPOSE.
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  • OBNOXIOUS ON PURPOSE.AND SO, IT'S...NO, THEY
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  • AND SO, IT'S...NO, THEYSHOULDN'T BE OFFENSIVE, BUT,
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  • SHOULDN'T BE OFFENSIVE, BUT,I'M ALSO CHARGED BY GOD TO NOT
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  • I'M ALSO CHARGED BY GOD TO NOTTAKE OFFENCE.
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  • TAKE OFFENCE.IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A
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  • IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ADIFFERENT SUBJECT, BUT SAME
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  • DIFFERENT SUBJECT, BUT SAMESCENARIO.
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  • SCENARIO.ONE TIME, I WORKED FOR SOMEBODY
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  • ONE TIME, I WORKED FOR SOMEBODYTHAT CONTROLLED ME FOR...
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  • THAT CONTROLLED ME FOR...A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS.
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  • A GOOD NUMBER OF YEARS.AND WHEN I FINALLY GOT AWAY
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  • AND WHEN I FINALLY GOT AWAYFROM IT, I WAS SO ANGRY AT THIS
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  • FROM IT, I WAS SO ANGRY AT THISPERSON FOR CONTROLLING ME.
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  • PERSON FOR CONTROLLING ME.AND GOD SAID: YOU'RE JUST AS
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  • AND GOD SAID: YOU'RE JUST ASGUILTY.
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  • GUILTY.YOU LET HIM DO IT.
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  • YOU LET HIM DO IT.SO, SEE, I HAD JUST AS-- WE
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  • SO, SEE, I HAD JUST AS-- WEHAVE-- YOU KNOW, WE CAN
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  • HAVE-- YOU KNOW, WE CANCOMPLAIN, "WELL, YOU'RE
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  • COMPLAIN, "WELL, YOU'RECONTROLLING ME," BUT, IT'S MY
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  • CONTROLLING ME," BUT, IT'S MYRESPONSIBILITY, TOO, NOT
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  • RESPONSIBILITY, TOO, NOTTO LET YOU.
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  • TO LET YOU.SO, I CAN SAY, "WELL, YOU
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  • SO, I CAN SAY, "WELL, YOUOFFENDED ME," BUT IT'S JUST AS
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  • OFFENDED ME," BUT IT'S JUST ASMUCH MY RESPONSIBILITY TO NOT
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  • MUCH MY RESPONSIBILITY TO NOTTAKE OFFENCE.
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  • TAKE OFFENCE.- LISA: YOU WERE OFFENDABLE.
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  • - LISA: YOU WERE OFFENDABLE.- JOYCE: RIGHT.
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  • - JOYCE: RIGHT.I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,
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  • I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,BUT I HAVE TO TALK TO
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  • BUT I HAVE TO TALK TOMYSELF, NOW.
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  • MYSELF, NOW.I HAVE TO COUNSEL MYSELF.
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  • I HAVE TO COUNSEL MYSELF.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]- LISA: I HAVE TO, TOO.
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  • - LISA: I HAVE TO, TOO.- JOYCE: I HAVE TO GO, "OKAY,
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  • - JOYCE: I HAVE TO GO, "OKAY,JOYCE, LET'S GO OVER HERE
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  • JOYCE, LET'S GO OVER HEREHAVE A LITTLE MEETING."
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  • HAVE A LITTLE MEETING."I HAVE TO KINDA TALK MYSELF
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  • I HAVE TO KINDA TALK MYSELFTHROUGH IT, LIKE I
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  • THROUGH IT, LIKE IWOULD SOMEBODY ELSE.
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  • WOULD SOMEBODY ELSE.OKAY?
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  • OKAY?BELIEVE THE BEST OF THAT
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  • BELIEVE THE BEST OF THATPERSON -- THEY DIDN'T TRY TO DO
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  • PERSON -- THEY DIDN'T TRY TO DOIT ON PURPOSE.
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  • IT ON PURPOSE.HOW MANY TIMES, JOYCE, DO YOU
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  • HOW MANY TIMES, JOYCE, DO YOUHURT SOMEBODY ELSE'S FEELINGS
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  • HURT SOMEBODY ELSE'S FEELINGSAND DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOU
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  • AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT YOUDID IT?
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  • DID IT?I'M SURE NUMEROUS TIMES.
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  • I'M SURE NUMEROUS TIMES.SO, I JUST KINDA HAVE TO TALK
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  • SO, I JUST KINDA HAVE TO TALKMYSELF INTO BEHAVING LIKE A
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  • MYSELF INTO BEHAVING LIKE ACHRISTIAN.
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  • CHRISTIAN.- LISA: RIGHT.
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  • - LISA: RIGHT.[CECE LAUGHS]
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  • [CECE LAUGHS]AND I'VE FOUND THAT, SOMETIMES,
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  • AND I'VE FOUND THAT, SOMETIMES,WHEN I TALK MYSELF INTO IT, MY
  • 00:06:10.059 --> 00:06:12.128
  • WHEN I TALK MYSELF INTO IT, MYHEART IS SLOW TO RESPOND.
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  • HEART IS SLOW TO RESPOND.BECAUSE MY HEART WILL STILL
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  • BECAUSE MY HEART WILL STILLBE GOING: POUTY-POUTY,
  • 00:06:15.865 --> 00:06:16.532
  • BE GOING: POUTY-POUTY,WHINY-WHINY, THEY HURT MY
  • 00:06:16.532 --> 00:06:17.700
  • WHINY-WHINY, THEY HURT MYFEELINGS.
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  • FEELINGS.BUT IF I GO AHEAD AND DO IT,
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  • BUT IF I GO AHEAD AND DO IT,IT'LL-- IT'LL FOLLOW.
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  • IT'LL-- IT'LL FOLLOW.IT'S LIKE IT'LL FINALLY UNCROSS
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  • IT'S LIKE IT'LL FINALLY UNCROSSITS ARMS AND FOLLOW.
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  • ITS ARMS AND FOLLOW.SO, I DO THINK-- I LOVE THAT
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  • SO, I DO THINK-- I LOVE THATYOU SAID DO IT QUICKLY.
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  • YOU SAID DO IT QUICKLY.BECAUSE, SOMETIMES, I-- OFTEN
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  • BECAUSE, SOMETIMES, I-- OFTENTO SEE IS SUCH A BIG DEAL FOR
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  • TO SEE IS SUCH A BIG DEAL FORME THAT I DON'T WANT TO FORGIVE
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  • ME THAT I DON'T WANT TO FORGIVEAN OFFENCE IF I DON'T
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  • AN OFFENCE IF I DON'TREALLY...FEEL IT.
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  • REALLY...FEEL IT.AND I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING
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  • AND I THINK WHAT I'M HEARINGYOU SAY IS: JUST GO AHEAD AND
  • 00:06:39.422 --> 00:06:41.390
  • YOU SAY IS: JUST GO AHEAD ANDDISCIPLINE YOURSELF AND DO IT
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  • DISCIPLINE YOURSELF AND DO ITEVEN AS A SACRIFICIAL ACT OF
  • 00:06:43.292 --> 00:06:44.360
  • EVEN AS A SACRIFICIAL ACT OFWORSHIP.
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  • WORSHIP.AND THEN, OUR-- OUR HEARTS WILL
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  • AND THEN, OUR-- OUR HEARTS WILLFOLLOW.
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  • FOLLOW.- JOYCE: BUT FORGIVENESS IS
  • 00:06:47.630 --> 00:06:48.731
  • - JOYCE: BUT FORGIVENESS ISNOT ABOUT A FEELING; IT'S ABOUT
  • 00:06:48.731 --> 00:06:49.265
  • NOT ABOUT A FEELING; IT'S ABOUTA DECISION.
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  • A DECISION.- LISA: I KNOW...
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  • - LISA: I KNOW...IT'S HARD FOR ME.
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  • IT'S HARD FOR ME.- JOYCE: IT'S A DECISION ABOUT
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  • - JOYCE: IT'S A DECISION ABOUTHOW YOU'RE GONNA TREAT
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  • HOW YOU'RE GONNA TREATSOMEBODY.
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  • SOMEBODY.AND I'VE EVEN HAD TIMES AND I--
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  • AND I'VE EVEN HAD TIMES AND I--THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO GOOD
  • 00:06:56.038 --> 00:06:58.474
  • THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO GOODSOMETIMES TO, IF SOMEBODY HAS
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  • SOMETIMES TO, IF SOMEBODY HASHURT YOU, TO DO SOMETHING FOR
  • 00:07:01.611 --> 00:07:03.479
  • HURT YOU, TO DO SOMETHING FORTHEM -- YOU KNOW, TO ACTUALLY
  • 00:07:03.479 --> 00:07:05.214
  • THEM -- YOU KNOW, TO ACTUALLYTAKE THAT ACT...
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  • TAKE THAT ACT...- ELISABETH HASSELBECK: YES.
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  • - ELISABETH HASSELBECK: YES.- JOYCE: I HAD A VERY FAVORITE
  • 00:07:07.416 --> 00:07:10.319
  • - JOYCE: I HAD A VERY FAVORITEITEM, AND...GOD PUT IT ON MY
  • 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:11.787
  • ITEM, AND...GOD PUT IT ON MYHEART TO GIVE IT TO THIS WOMAN
  • 00:07:11.787 --> 00:07:13.689
  • HEART TO GIVE IT TO THIS WOMANTHAT HAD REALLY HURT ME.
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  • THAT HAD REALLY HURT ME.- LISA: MM...WOW...
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  • - LISA: MM...WOW...- JOYCE: AND I TOLD HIM, I
  • 00:07:16.526 --> 00:07:17.827
  • - JOYCE: AND I TOLD HIM, ISAID: I'LL GIVE IT TO ANYBODY,
  • 00:07:17.827 --> 00:07:18.828
  • SAID: I'LL GIVE IT TO ANYBODY,BUT PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME GIVE
  • 00:07:18.828 --> 00:07:20.696
  • BUT PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME GIVEIT TO HER.
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  • IT TO HER.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]I REALLY JUST DID NOT
  • 00:07:23.499 --> 00:07:25.268
  • I REALLY JUST DID NOTWANNA GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY I
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  • WANNA GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY IDIDN'T LIKE AND THEN HAVE TO
  • 00:07:26.769 --> 00:07:29.071
  • DIDN'T LIKE AND THEN HAVE TOWATCH THEM WEAR IT.
  • 00:07:29.071 --> 00:07:31.774
  • WATCH THEM WEAR IT.BUT IT'S LIKE THAT BREAKS
  • 00:07:31.774 --> 00:07:33.476
  • BUT IT'S LIKE THAT BREAKSTHE DEVIL'S POWER...
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  • THE DEVIL'S POWER...- CECE: IT BREAKS IT.
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  • - CECE: IT BREAKS IT.COME ON.
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  • COME ON.- JOYCE: ...WHEN YOU DO THAT.
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  • - JOYCE: ...WHEN YOU DO THAT.- ELISABETH: I LOVE THAT.
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  • - ELISABETH: I LOVE THAT.- JOYCE: SO, I THINK THAT
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  • - JOYCE: SO, I THINK THATFORGIVENESS -- IT REALLY IS NOT
  • 00:07:40.583 --> 00:07:43.719
  • FORGIVENESS -- IT REALLY IS NOTABOUT A FEELING AT ALL.
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  • ABOUT A FEELING AT ALL.IT'S ABOUT-- IT'S ABOUT A
  • 00:07:44.554 --> 00:07:47.657
  • IT'S ABOUT-- IT'S ABOUT ADECISION AND ACTION.
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  • DECISION AND ACTION.IT'S HOW ME LOVING YOU IS NOT
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  • IT'S HOW ME LOVING YOU IS NOTSAYING I LOVE YOU.
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  • SAYING I LOVE YOU.IT'S HOW I TREAT YOU.
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  • IT'S HOW I TREAT YOU.IT'S HOW I TALK ABOUT YOU WHEN
  • 00:07:54.196 --> 00:07:56.198
  • IT'S HOW I TALK ABOUT YOU WHENYOU'RE NOT AROUND.
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  • YOU'RE NOT AROUND.IT'S HOW I THINK ABOUT YOU OR
  • 00:07:57.567 --> 00:07:58.968
  • IT'S HOW I THINK ABOUT YOU ORPRAY FOR YOU.
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  • PRAY FOR YOU.OR: WHAT AM I WILLING TO DO FOR
  • 00:07:59.835 --> 00:08:02.572
  • OR: WHAT AM I WILLING TO DO FORYOU, IF YOU HAVE A NEED?
  • 00:08:02.572 --> 00:08:03.639
  • YOU, IF YOU HAVE A NEED?- ELISABETH: WOW, THAT'S SO
  • 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:04.540
  • - ELISABETH: WOW, THAT'S SOGOOD.
  • 00:08:04.540 --> 00:08:06.008
  • GOOD.I LOVE THAT, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT--
  • 00:08:06.008 --> 00:08:06.642
  • I LOVE THAT, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT--IT'S OBEDIENCE.
  • 00:08:06.642 --> 00:08:07.944
  • IT'S OBEDIENCE.IT'S LIKE: THE ROOT OF THAT IS
  • 00:08:07.944 --> 00:08:09.679
  • IT'S LIKE: THE ROOT OF THAT ISOBEDIENCE AND NOT FEAR.
  • 00:08:09.679 --> 00:08:10.479
  • OBEDIENCE AND NOT FEAR.'CAUSE I THINK THE FEAR IS:
  • 00:08:10.479 --> 00:08:11.981
  • 'CAUSE I THINK THE FEAR IS:WELL, WILL YOU TAKE CARE OF ME
  • 00:08:11.981 --> 00:08:12.515
  • WELL, WILL YOU TAKE CARE OF MEIF I'M NICE?
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  • IF I'M NICE?LIKE, WHAT ABOUT MY PART?
  • 00:08:13.182 --> 00:08:13.683
  • LIKE, WHAT ABOUT MY PART?YOU KNOW?
  • 00:08:13.683 --> 00:08:14.817
  • YOU KNOW?AND I THINK THAT'S OUR NATURE
  • 00:08:14.817 --> 00:08:16.018
  • AND I THINK THAT'S OUR NATUREAS HUMANS, AND, LIKE, THAT WHEN
  • 00:08:16.018 --> 00:08:17.420
  • AS HUMANS, AND, LIKE, THAT WHENIT SAYS IN PSALMS, "FOR THE
  • 00:08:17.420 --> 00:08:18.588
  • IT SAYS IN PSALMS, "FOR THELORD LOVES THE JUST AND WILL
  • 00:08:18.588 --> 00:08:19.689
  • LORD LOVES THE JUST AND WILLNOT FORSAKE HIS FAITHFUL ONES,"
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  • NOT FORSAKE HIS FAITHFUL ONES,"I'M LIKE: I HAVE TO TALK MYSELF
  • 00:08:20.723 --> 00:08:21.791
  • I'M LIKE: I HAVE TO TALK MYSELFINTO THAT.
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  • INTO THAT.LIKE, YES -- GET BACK IN THERE
  • 00:08:22.592 --> 00:08:23.526
  • LIKE, YES -- GET BACK IN THEREIN OBEDIENCE.
  • 00:08:23.526 --> 00:08:24.994
  • IN OBEDIENCE.'CAUSE I'M LIKE: WHEN I FEEL
  • 00:08:24.994 --> 00:08:26.128
  • 'CAUSE I'M LIKE: WHEN I FEELOFFENDED, OR SOMETHING'S
  • 00:08:26.128 --> 00:08:27.630
  • OFFENDED, OR SOMETHING'SOFFENSIVE, I THINK OF THE WORD
  • 00:08:27.630 --> 00:08:28.764
  • OFFENSIVE, I THINK OF THE WORD"FENCE."
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  • "FENCE."LIKE, IT'S JUST LOCKIN' ME ON.
  • 00:08:29.966 --> 00:08:30.900
  • LIKE, IT'S JUST LOCKIN' ME ON.I'M BUILDING FENCES ALL AROUND
  • 00:08:30.900 --> 00:08:31.367
  • I'M BUILDING FENCES ALL AROUNDME.
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  • ME.AND I'M LIKE...I'M ABRASIVE.
  • 00:08:33.502 --> 00:08:35.571
  • AND I'M LIKE...I'M ABRASIVE.AND SO, IF YOU-- YOU CAN'T
  • 00:08:35.571 --> 00:08:37.006
  • AND SO, IF YOU-- YOU CAN'TSTRIKE A MATCH ON A SMOOTH
  • 00:08:37.006 --> 00:08:37.440
  • STRIKE A MATCH ON A SMOOTHROCK.
  • 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:38.674
  • ROCK.IT'S A LOT EASIER TO DO IT ON
  • 00:08:38.674 --> 00:08:39.241
  • IT'S A LOT EASIER TO DO IT ONSOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE...
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  • SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE...SCRATCHY.
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  • SCRATCHY.AND SO, I NEED TO, LIKE, MAKE
  • 00:08:41.010 --> 00:08:43.512
  • AND SO, I NEED TO, LIKE, MAKEMYSELF LESS SCRATCHY.
  • 00:08:43.512 --> 00:08:44.914
  • MYSELF LESS SCRATCHY.LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA BE
  • 00:08:44.914 --> 00:08:45.982
  • LIKE, I'M NOT GONNA BESCRATCHY, SO WHEN SOMETHING
  • 00:08:45.982 --> 00:08:46.916
  • SCRATCHY, SO WHEN SOMETHINGCOMES OVER AND TRIES TO STRIKE
  • 00:08:46.916 --> 00:08:50.086
  • COMES OVER AND TRIES TO STRIKEAT ME, I'LL MAKE IT AS
  • 00:08:50.086 --> 00:08:50.586
  • AT ME, I'LL MAKE IT ASDIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE.
  • 00:08:50.586 --> 00:08:51.287
  • DIFFICULT AS POSSIBLE.I'LL BE SMOOTH.
  • 00:08:51.287 --> 00:08:52.488
  • I'LL BE SMOOTH.BE JUST SMOOTH SO THAT I'M NOT
  • 00:08:52.488 --> 00:08:55.124
  • BE JUST SMOOTH SO THAT I'M NOTTHAT EASY TO STRIKE ON.
  • 00:08:55.124 --> 00:08:56.092
  • THAT EASY TO STRIKE ON.AND I FEEL LIKE AFTER...YOU
  • 00:08:56.092 --> 00:08:58.027
  • AND I FEEL LIKE AFTER...YOUKNOW, 10 YEARS DEBATING, THAT--
  • 00:08:58.027 --> 00:09:00.062
  • KNOW, 10 YEARS DEBATING, THAT--THAT RAGING RIGHTAHOLIC IN
  • 00:09:00.062 --> 00:09:00.763
  • THAT RAGING RIGHTAHOLIC INME...
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  • ME...LIKE: I'M GONNA BE RIGHT ABOUT
  • 00:09:01.697 --> 00:09:02.531
  • LIKE: I'M GONNA BE RIGHT ABOUTALL THIS POINT.
  • 00:09:02.531 --> 00:09:03.399
  • ALL THIS POINT.I'M GONNA MAKE A POINT, AND
  • 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:04.166
  • I'M GONNA MAKE A POINT, ANDTHEN I'M GONNA MAKE A POINT
  • 00:09:04.166 --> 00:09:05.034
  • THEN I'M GONNA MAKE A POINTABOUT YOUR POINT, AND THEN I'M
  • 00:09:05.034 --> 00:09:05.901
  • ABOUT YOUR POINT, AND THEN I'MGONNA MAKE A POINT ABOUT YOUR
  • 00:09:05.901 --> 00:09:06.335
  • GONNA MAKE A POINT ABOUT YOURPOINT.
  • 00:09:06.335 --> 00:09:07.136
  • POINT.AND, BY THE WAY, I'M GONNA MAKE
  • 00:09:07.136 --> 00:09:08.070
  • AND, BY THE WAY, I'M GONNA MAKEANOTHER POINT ABOUT YOUR POINT.
  • 00:09:08.070 --> 00:09:09.238
  • ANOTHER POINT ABOUT YOUR POINT.AND, THEN, LIKE, I TOOK A STEP
  • 00:09:09.238 --> 00:09:09.972
  • AND, THEN, LIKE, I TOOK A STEPBACK, AND GOD'S LIKE: CHILD...
  • 00:09:09.972 --> 00:09:11.807
  • BACK, AND GOD'S LIKE: CHILD...YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE A POINT.
  • 00:09:11.807 --> 00:09:12.341
  • YOU DON'T NEED TO MAKE A POINT.YOU NEED TO POINT TO YOUR
  • 00:09:12.341 --> 00:09:13.709
  • YOU NEED TO POINT TO YOURMAKER.
  • 00:09:13.709 --> 00:09:15.177
  • MAKER.AND SO, LIKE, THAT'S WHERE IT
  • 00:09:15.177 --> 00:09:16.445
  • AND SO, LIKE, THAT'S WHERE ITCHANGED FOR ME.
  • 00:09:16.445 --> 00:09:17.413
  • CHANGED FOR ME.LIKE...THAT'S-- IT'S NOT ABOUT
  • 00:09:17.413 --> 00:09:19.181
  • LIKE...THAT'S-- IT'S NOT ABOUTBEING SO RIGHT, YOU KNOW, ALL
  • 00:09:19.181 --> 00:09:20.683
  • BEING SO RIGHT, YOU KNOW, ALLTHE TIME THAT YOU ARE--
  • 00:09:20.683 --> 00:09:22.051
  • THE TIME THAT YOU ARE--LIKE, BOB GOFF IS SUCH AN
  • 00:09:22.051 --> 00:09:23.619
  • LIKE, BOB GOFF IS SUCH ANINSTRUCTOR TO ME.
  • 00:09:23.619 --> 00:09:24.253
  • INSTRUCTOR TO ME.WHEN YOU'RE WRONG WITH PEOPLE,
  • 00:09:24.253 --> 00:09:25.087
  • WHEN YOU'RE WRONG WITH PEOPLE,LIKE--
  • 00:09:25.087 --> 00:09:26.155
  • LIKE--YOU CAN BE RIGHT ABOUT A LOT OF
  • 00:09:26.155 --> 00:09:27.556
  • YOU CAN BE RIGHT ABOUT A LOT OFTHINGS AND ALONE INSIDE YOUR
  • 00:09:27.556 --> 00:09:29.492
  • THINGS AND ALONE INSIDE YOUROFFENCE.
  • 00:09:29.492 --> 00:09:30.359
  • OFFENCE.LIKE, YOU'LL BE ALL ALONE.
  • 00:09:30.359 --> 00:09:31.494
  • LIKE, YOU'LL BE ALL ALONE.AND SO, I THINK THAT THE GOD OF
  • 00:09:31.494 --> 00:09:33.029
  • AND SO, I THINK THAT THE GOD OFUNITY, THE GOD OF COMMUNITY,
  • 00:09:33.029 --> 00:09:33.896
  • UNITY, THE GOD OF COMMUNITY,THE GOD OF JUST TOGETHERNESS
  • 00:09:33.896 --> 00:09:35.865
  • THE GOD OF JUST TOGETHERNESSWANTS-- HE KNOWS IT'S BETTER
  • 00:09:35.865 --> 00:09:37.466
  • WANTS-- HE KNOWS IT'S BETTERTOGETHER SO WE DON'T BUILD UP
  • 00:09:37.466 --> 00:09:38.834
  • TOGETHER SO WE DON'T BUILD UPTHESE FENCES.
  • 00:09:38.834 --> 00:09:40.236
  • THESE FENCES.BUT I DO THINK-- I LOOKED UP
  • 00:09:40.236 --> 00:09:41.937
  • BUT I DO THINK-- I LOOKED UPTHIS LIST OF THE MAYO CLINIC
  • 00:09:41.937 --> 00:09:42.772
  • THIS LIST OF THE MAYO CLINICTHAT SAYS, LIKE: "LETTING GO OF
  • 00:09:42.772 --> 00:09:43.739
  • THAT SAYS, LIKE: "LETTING GO OFGRUDGES AND BITTERNESS CAN MAKE
  • 00:09:43.739 --> 00:09:45.207
  • GRUDGES AND BITTERNESS CAN MAKEWAY FOR IMPROVED HEALTH AND
  • 00:09:45.207 --> 00:09:46.442
  • WAY FOR IMPROVED HEALTH ANDPEACE OF MIND."
  • 00:09:46.442 --> 00:09:47.643
  • PEACE OF MIND."IMPROVE RELATIONSHIPS, MENTAL
  • 00:09:47.643 --> 00:09:48.944
  • IMPROVE RELATIONSHIPS, MENTALHEALTH; LESS ANXIETY, STRESS,
  • 00:09:48.944 --> 00:09:50.446
  • HEALTH; LESS ANXIETY, STRESS,BLOOD PRESSURE; STRONGER IMMUNE
  • 00:09:50.446 --> 00:09:51.347
  • BLOOD PRESSURE; STRONGER IMMUNESYSTEM.
  • 00:09:51.347 --> 00:09:52.815
  • SYSTEM.THESE ARE SIDE EFFECTS, BUT THE
  • 00:09:52.815 --> 00:09:54.417
  • THESE ARE SIDE EFFECTS, BUT THEREASON IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU
  • 00:09:54.417 --> 00:09:55.584
  • REASON IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUSAID, JOYCE.
  • 00:09:55.584 --> 00:09:56.886
  • SAID, JOYCE.- LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:09:56.886 --> 00:09:58.154
  • - LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.- ELISABETH: IT'S THE OBEDIENT
  • 00:09:58.154 --> 00:09:58.754
  • - ELISABETH: IT'S THE OBEDIENTACTION AND DECISION TO BE
  • 00:09:58.754 --> 00:10:00.122
  • ACTION AND DECISION TO BELOVING TOWARDS SOMEBODY, EVEN
  • 00:10:00.122 --> 00:10:02.158
  • LOVING TOWARDS SOMEBODY, EVENWHEN THEY'VE HURT YOU.
  • 00:10:02.158 --> 00:10:02.792
  • WHEN THEY'VE HURT YOU.LIKE, THOSE THINGS MAY HAPPEN,
  • 00:10:02.792 --> 00:10:03.526
  • LIKE, THOSE THINGS MAY HAPPEN,BUT THE REASON'S JESUS.
  • 00:10:03.526 --> 00:10:04.960
  • BUT THE REASON'S JESUS.THE REASON CAN'T BE THE
  • 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:05.995
  • THE REASON CAN'T BE THESIDE EFFECTS.
  • 00:10:05.995 --> 00:10:08.297
  • SIDE EFFECTS.THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE HAVE
  • 00:10:08.297 --> 00:10:08.831
  • THE REASON IS BECAUSE WE HAVEBEEN--
  • 00:10:08.831 --> 00:10:09.899
  • BEEN--- CECE: DISOBEDIENT.
  • 00:10:09.899 --> 00:10:10.533
  • - CECE: DISOBEDIENT.- ELISABETH: HAVEN'T WE BEEN
  • 00:10:10.533 --> 00:10:11.000
  • - ELISABETH: HAVEN'T WE BEENOFFENSIVE?
  • 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:11.467
  • OFFENSIVE?[LAUGHS]
  • 00:10:11.467 --> 00:10:12.234
  • [LAUGHS]RIGHT?
  • 00:10:12.234 --> 00:10:12.868
  • RIGHT?- JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I USED TO
  • 00:10:12.868 --> 00:10:13.936
  • - JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I USED TONOTICE THE SAME PEOPLE GET IN
  • 00:10:13.936 --> 00:10:16.105
  • NOTICE THE SAME PEOPLE GET INEVERY...EVERY TIME, BACK WHEN
  • 00:10:16.105 --> 00:10:17.440
  • EVERY...EVERY TIME, BACK WHENWE HAD PRAYER LINES ALL THE
  • 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:17.973
  • WE HAD PRAYER LINES ALL THETIME.
  • 00:10:17.973 --> 00:10:19.475
  • TIME.[CHUCKLING]
  • 00:10:19.475 --> 00:10:20.509
  • [CHUCKLING]YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAD A
  • 00:10:20.509 --> 00:10:21.610
  • YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAD APRAYER LINE FOR...FOR SOMEBODY
  • 00:10:21.610 --> 00:10:22.912
  • PRAYER LINE FOR...FOR SOMEBODYYOU NEED TO FORGIVE.
  • 00:10:22.912 --> 00:10:23.713
  • YOU NEED TO FORGIVE.AND THE SAME PERSON WOULD BE
  • 00:10:23.713 --> 00:10:24.714
  • AND THE SAME PERSON WOULD BETHERE.
  • 00:10:24.714 --> 00:10:25.948
  • THERE.AND I KNEW THEIR HEART.
  • 00:10:25.948 --> 00:10:26.949
  • AND I KNEW THEIR HEART.I KNEW THEY WERE GOOD PEOPLE.
  • 00:10:26.949 --> 00:10:29.885
  • I KNEW THEY WERE GOOD PEOPLE.IT'S LIKE: GOD, WHY...DO THEY
  • 00:10:29.885 --> 00:10:31.854
  • IT'S LIKE: GOD, WHY...DO THEYHAVE TO KEEP COMIN' BACK, OVER
  • 00:10:31.854 --> 00:10:33.456
  • HAVE TO KEEP COMIN' BACK, OVERAND OVER AND OVER?
  • 00:10:33.456 --> 00:10:34.423
  • AND OVER AND OVER?AND, VERY SIMPLY, THE LORD
  • 00:10:34.423 --> 00:10:36.058
  • AND, VERY SIMPLY, THE LORDWHISPERED TO ME, "BECAUSE
  • 00:10:36.058 --> 00:10:38.327
  • WHISPERED TO ME, "BECAUSETHEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT I TOLD
  • 00:10:38.327 --> 00:10:39.295
  • THEY'RE NOT DOING WHAT I TOLD'EM TO IN MY WORD," WHICH IS:
  • 00:10:39.295 --> 00:10:40.196
  • 'EM TO IN MY WORD," WHICH IS:PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES.
  • 00:10:40.196 --> 00:10:41.831
  • PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES.- CECE: MAKES A GOOD POINT.
  • 00:10:41.831 --> 00:10:43.632
  • - CECE: MAKES A GOOD POINT.- JOYCE: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE
  • 00:10:43.632 --> 00:10:44.400
  • - JOYCE: HOW MANY TIMES DO WEACTUALLY REALLY PRAY...FOR OUR
  • 00:10:44.400 --> 00:10:47.670
  • ACTUALLY REALLY PRAY...FOR OURENEMIES?
  • 00:10:47.670 --> 00:10:49.305
  • ENEMIES?AND IT IS VERY HARD TO STAY MAD
  • 00:10:49.305 --> 00:10:50.973
  • AND IT IS VERY HARD TO STAY MADAT SOMEBODY THAT YOU'RE PRAYIN'
  • 00:10:50.973 --> 00:10:52.575
  • AT SOMEBODY THAT YOU'RE PRAYIN'FOR EVERY DAY.
  • 00:10:52.575 --> 00:10:53.342
  • FOR EVERY DAY.- ELISABETH: SO TRUE.
  • 00:10:53.342 --> 00:10:53.809
  • - ELISABETH: SO TRUE.[CHUCKLES]
  • 00:10:53.809 --> 00:10:54.477
  • [CHUCKLES]- LAURIE: I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID
  • 00:10:54.477 --> 00:10:55.244
  • - LAURIE: I LOVE WHAT YOU SAIDONE TIME ON A PROGRAM.
  • 00:10:55.244 --> 00:10:56.479
  • ONE TIME ON A PROGRAM.YOU SAID: WHEN YOU PRAY FOR
  • 00:10:56.479 --> 00:10:57.279
  • YOU SAID: WHEN YOU PRAY FORYOUR ENEMIES, THE FIRST THING
  • 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.148
  • YOUR ENEMIES, THE FIRST THINGTHAT COMES TO THEM IS TRUTH.
  • 00:10:59.148 --> 00:10:59.682
  • THAT COMES TO THEM IS TRUTH.- JOYCE: RIGHT.
  • 00:10:59.682 --> 00:11:00.883
  • - JOYCE: RIGHT.- CECE: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:11:00.883 --> 00:11:02.284
  • - CECE: THAT'S GOOD.- LAURIE: AND I LOVE THAT.
  • 00:11:02.284 --> 00:11:05.020
  • - LAURIE: AND I LOVE THAT.'CAUSE, WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK
  • 00:11:05.020 --> 00:11:05.955
  • 'CAUSE, WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASKFOR -- THAT TRUTH COME TO THAT
  • 00:11:05.955 --> 00:11:07.623
  • FOR -- THAT TRUTH COME TO THATPERSON?
  • 00:11:07.623 --> 00:11:08.724
  • PERSON?YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT IN THE WAY
  • 00:11:08.724 --> 00:11:10.159
  • YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT IN THE WAYTHAT WE WANT THEM TO AND JUST
  • 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:11.627
  • THAT WE WANT THEM TO AND JUSTFESS UP WHAT YOU JUST DID, YOU
  • 00:11:11.627 --> 00:11:12.128
  • FESS UP WHAT YOU JUST DID, YOUKNOW?
  • 00:11:12.128 --> 00:11:13.696
  • KNOW?BUT THAT TRUTH AND LIGHT
  • 00:11:13.696 --> 00:11:14.296
  • BUT THAT TRUTH AND LIGHTWOULD COME TO THEM.
  • 00:11:14.296 --> 00:11:15.765
  • WOULD COME TO THEM.- JOYCE: WELL,
  • 00:11:15.765 --> 00:11:16.599
  • - JOYCE: WELL,I TOLD GOD, I SAID, "I
  • 00:11:16.599 --> 00:11:17.533
  • I TOLD GOD, I SAID, "IDON'T WANT 'EM TO BE BLESSED."
  • 00:11:17.533 --> 00:11:18.968
  • DON'T WANT 'EM TO BE BLESSED."- LAURIE: (LAUGHING) YEAH, I
  • 00:11:18.968 --> 00:11:19.668
  • - LAURIE: (LAUGHING) YEAH, IKNOW.
  • 00:11:19.668 --> 00:11:20.436
  • KNOW.I DON'T, EITHER!
  • 00:11:20.436 --> 00:11:21.170
  • I DON'T, EITHER!- LISA: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:21.170 --> 00:11:21.604
  • - LISA: RIGHT.I'VE DONE THAT, TOO.
  • 00:11:21.604 --> 00:11:22.371
  • I'VE DONE THAT, TOO.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:11:22.371 --> 00:11:24.306
  • [LAUGHTER]- JOYCE: THIS IS GONNA BE
  • 00:11:24.306 --> 00:11:24.940
  • - JOYCE: THIS IS GONNA BEPHONY, BUT I CAN PRAY FOR YOU
  • 00:11:24.940 --> 00:11:25.941
  • PHONY, BUT I CAN PRAY FOR YOUTO BLESS THEM,
  • 00:11:25.941 --> 00:11:26.742
  • TO BLESS THEM,BUT I DON'T REALLY WANT 'EM TO
  • 00:11:26.742 --> 00:11:27.243
  • BUT I DON'T REALLY WANT 'EM TOBE BLESSED.
  • 00:11:27.243 --> 00:11:29.478
  • BE BLESSED.- LAURIE: EXACTLY.
  • 00:11:29.478 --> 00:11:30.079
  • - LAURIE: EXACTLY.- JOYCE: AND THAT WAS WHEN
  • 00:11:30.079 --> 00:11:31.247
  • - JOYCE: AND THAT WAS WHENGOD...SHOWED ME THAT.
  • 00:11:31.247 --> 00:11:33.082
  • GOD...SHOWED ME THAT.HE SAID: IT'S NOT LIKE I'M
  • 00:11:33.082 --> 00:11:34.083
  • HE SAID: IT'S NOT LIKE I'MGONNA GIVE 'EM A NEW CAR.
  • 00:11:34.083 --> 00:11:34.550
  • GONNA GIVE 'EM A NEW CAR.- LAURIE: RIGHT.
  • 00:11:34.550 --> 00:11:35.651
  • - LAURIE: RIGHT.[LAUGHS]
  • 00:11:35.651 --> 00:11:36.252
  • [LAUGHS]- JOYCE: I MEAN, THE FIRST
  • 00:11:36.252 --> 00:11:37.153
  • - JOYCE: I MEAN, THE FIRSTTHING I'M GONNA BLESS THEM WITH
  • 00:11:37.153 --> 00:11:38.087
  • THING I'M GONNA BLESS THEM WITHIS TRUTH.
  • 00:11:38.087 --> 00:11:38.554
  • IS TRUTH.- CECE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:11:38.554 --> 00:11:40.923
  • - CECE: THAT'S RIGHT.A RELATIONSHIP.
  • 00:11:40.923 --> 00:11:41.791
  • A RELATIONSHIP.- JOYCE: AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU
  • 00:11:41.791 --> 00:11:42.491
  • - JOYCE: AND THAT'S WHAT, YOUKNOW...THEY NEED.
  • 00:11:42.491 --> 00:11:43.359
  • KNOW...THEY NEED.WE WERE LIKE: "WELL, I WANT
  • 00:11:43.359 --> 00:11:44.026
  • WE WERE LIKE: "WELL, I WANTTHEM TO SEE WHAT THEY DID TO
  • 00:11:44.026 --> 00:11:44.426
  • THEM TO SEE WHAT THEY DID TOME."
  • 00:11:44.426 --> 00:11:45.427
  • ME."BUT, ONLY GOD CAN SHOW THEM
  • 00:11:45.427 --> 00:11:46.228
  • BUT, ONLY GOD CAN SHOW THEMTHAT.
  • 00:11:46.228 --> 00:11:48.597
  • THAT.AND SO, WHEN WE PRAY FOR OUR
  • 00:11:48.597 --> 00:11:50.332
  • AND SO, WHEN WE PRAY FOR OURENEMIES TO BE BLESSED, GOD'S
  • 00:11:50.332 --> 00:11:53.602
  • ENEMIES TO BE BLESSED, GOD'SGONNA BLESS THEM WITH TRUTH.
  • 00:11:53.602 --> 00:11:56.605
  • GONNA BLESS THEM WITH TRUTH.AND, REALLY...HATING SOMEBODY
  • 00:11:56.605 --> 00:11:58.274
  • AND, REALLY...HATING SOMEBODYIS LIKE TAKIN' POISON, HOPIN'
  • 00:11:58.274 --> 00:12:00.109
  • IS LIKE TAKIN' POISON, HOPIN'YOUR ENEMY'LL DIE.
  • 00:12:00.109 --> 00:12:01.010
  • YOUR ENEMY'LL DIE.- LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:01.010 --> 00:12:01.544
  • - LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.- JOYCE: IT'S LIKE: YOU
  • 00:12:01.544 --> 00:12:03.546
  • - JOYCE: IT'S LIKE: YOUCAN'T...
  • 00:12:03.546 --> 00:12:04.380
  • CAN'T...- LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:04.380 --> 00:12:05.014
  • - LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.- JOYCE: WHY DOES GOD TELL US
  • 00:12:05.014 --> 00:12:05.748
  • - JOYCE: WHY DOES GOD TELL USTO FORGIVE!
  • 00:12:05.748 --> 00:12:06.849
  • TO FORGIVE!IT'S FOR US!
  • 00:12:06.849 --> 00:12:07.449
  • IT'S FOR US!- CECE: IT'S FOR US.
  • 00:12:07.449 --> 00:12:08.517
  • - CECE: IT'S FOR US.- JOYCE: IT'S NOT FOR THEM.
  • 00:12:08.517 --> 00:12:09.585
  • - JOYCE: IT'S NOT FOR THEM.- CECE: RIGHT.
  • 00:12:09.585 --> 00:12:10.152
  • - CECE: RIGHT.- JOYCE: IT'S FOR US SO WE
  • 00:12:10.152 --> 00:12:11.287
  • - JOYCE: IT'S FOR US SO WEUNLOAD ALL OF THAT AND OUR
  • 00:12:11.287 --> 00:12:12.121
  • UNLOAD ALL OF THAT AND OURLIVES ARE NOT RUINED AND
  • 00:12:12.121 --> 00:12:13.222
  • LIVES ARE NOT RUINED ANDPOISONED.
  • 00:12:13.222 --> 00:12:14.657
  • POISONED.IT'S LIKE: IF SOMEBODY DID HURT
  • 00:12:14.657 --> 00:12:16.458
  • IT'S LIKE: IF SOMEBODY DID HURTYOU, WHY LET THEM KEEP HURTING
  • 00:12:16.458 --> 00:12:18.394
  • YOU, WHY LET THEM KEEP HURTINGYOU EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR
  • 00:12:18.394 --> 00:12:19.395
  • YOU EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOURLIFE...
  • 00:12:19.395 --> 00:12:20.629
  • LIFE...- LAURIE: 'CAUSE THEY'VE
  • 00:12:20.629 --> 00:12:21.197
  • - LAURIE: 'CAUSE THEY'VETOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT.
  • 00:12:21.197 --> 00:12:21.864
  • TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT.- JOYCE: ...THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:12:21.864 --> 00:12:22.398
  • - JOYCE: ...THAT YOU'REGETTING?
  • 00:12:22.398 --> 00:12:23.098
  • GETTING?- CECE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:23.098 --> 00:12:23.799
  • - CECE: THAT'S RIGHT.AND EVERY DAY THAT YOU HOLD
  • 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:25.201
  • AND EVERY DAY THAT YOU HOLDONTO THE OFFENCE, YOU'RE
  • 00:12:25.201 --> 00:12:25.668
  • ONTO THE OFFENCE, YOU'REHURTIN' YOURSELF.
  • 00:12:25.668 --> 00:12:26.168
  • HURTIN' YOURSELF.- JOYCE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:26.168 --> 00:12:27.002
  • - JOYCE: THAT'S RIGHT.- LISA: A HUNDRED PERCENT.
  • 00:12:27.002 --> 00:12:28.337
  • - LISA: A HUNDRED PERCENT.AND THOSE CLOSEST AROUND YOU.
  • 00:12:28.337 --> 00:12:29.605
  • AND THOSE CLOSEST AROUND YOU.BECAUSE WHEN YOU HOLD ONTO
  • 00:12:29.605 --> 00:12:30.940
  • BECAUSE WHEN YOU HOLD ONTOTHOSE SHARP EDGES, YOU'RE
  • 00:12:30.940 --> 00:12:32.474
  • THOSE SHARP EDGES, YOU'RECUTTIN' EVERYBODY THAT MATTERS
  • 00:12:32.474 --> 00:12:33.542
  • CUTTIN' EVERYBODY THAT MATTERSIN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:12:33.542 --> 00:12:34.143
  • IN YOUR LIFE.- JOYCE: WHATEVER'S IN YOU,
  • 00:12:34.143 --> 00:12:34.944
  • - JOYCE: WHATEVER'S IN YOU,WILL COME OUT.
  • 00:12:34.944 --> 00:12:35.411
  • WILL COME OUT.- LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:12:35.411 --> 00:12:36.278
  • - LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.- ELISABETH: YOU'RE GONNA OWE
  • 00:12:36.278 --> 00:12:37.346
  • - ELISABETH: YOU'RE GONNA OWEME A NEW PEN AFTER THIS WEEK,
  • 00:12:37.346 --> 00:12:38.147
  • ME A NEW PEN AFTER THIS WEEK,BECAUSE I JUST KEEP WRITING
  • 00:12:38.147 --> 00:12:40.416
  • BECAUSE I JUST KEEP WRITINGDOWN THINGS THAT YOU SAY.
  • 00:12:40.416 --> 00:12:42.585
  • DOWN THINGS THAT YOU SAY.IT'S JUST THE DEAL, JOYCE.
  • 00:12:42.585 --> 00:12:43.853
  • IT'S JUST THE DEAL, JOYCE.- CECE: LIKE SHE SAID,
  • 00:12:43.853 --> 00:12:44.720
  • - CECE: LIKE SHE SAID,OFFENCE, THOUGH -- IT NEVER
  • 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:45.421
  • OFFENCE, THOUGH -- IT NEVERJUST STAYS PUT IN ONE PLACE.
  • 00:12:45.421 --> 00:12:46.055
  • JUST STAYS PUT IN ONE PLACE.IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO SPREAD.
  • 00:12:46.055 --> 00:12:48.057
  • IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO SPREAD.YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S
  • 00:12:48.057 --> 00:12:49.124
  • YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY IT'SSO-- YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF IT
  • 00:12:49.124 --> 00:12:51.460
  • SO-- YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF ITQUICK.
  • 00:12:51.460 --> 00:12:52.061
  • QUICK.- LISA: IT'S LIKE KUDZU.
  • 00:12:52.061 --> 00:12:52.595
  • - LISA: IT'S LIKE KUDZU.YOU KNOW HOW IN ATLANTA,
  • 00:12:52.595 --> 00:12:54.463
  • YOU KNOW HOW IN ATLANTA,YOU GO IN ATLANTA AND
  • 00:12:54.463 --> 00:12:55.564
  • YOU GO IN ATLANTA ANDTHERE'S KUDZU EVERYWHERE?
  • 00:12:55.564 --> 00:12:56.198
  • THERE'S KUDZU EVERYWHERE?AND IT'S LIKE: YOU HAVE GOT TO
  • 00:12:56.198 --> 00:12:56.966
  • AND IT'S LIKE: YOU HAVE GOT TOGET AT THE ROOT.
  • 00:12:56.966 --> 00:12:58.467
  • GET AT THE ROOT.THE THING I'VE REALIZED FOR ME,
  • 00:12:58.467 --> 00:12:59.602
  • THE THING I'VE REALIZED FOR ME,TOO, IS, A LOT OF TIMES,
  • 00:12:59.602 --> 00:13:00.936
  • TOO, IS, A LOT OF TIMES,SOMEBODY OFFENDED ME BECAUSE MY
  • 00:13:00.936 --> 00:13:03.172
  • SOMEBODY OFFENDED ME BECAUSE MYBUTTON WAS TOO BIG.
  • 00:13:03.172 --> 00:13:04.473
  • BUTTON WAS TOO BIG.LIKE...ANYBODY WOULD HAVE
  • 00:13:04.473 --> 00:13:06.642
  • LIKE...ANYBODY WOULD HAVEPRESSED THAT BUTTON, AND I CAN
  • 00:13:06.642 --> 00:13:08.844
  • PRESSED THAT BUTTON, AND I CANBLAME THEM, BUT IT'S REALLY I
  • 00:13:08.844 --> 00:13:11.347
  • BLAME THEM, BUT IT'S REALLY IWAS SO OFFENDABLE -- THE SIN
  • 00:13:11.347 --> 00:13:12.982
  • WAS SO OFFENDABLE -- THE SINWAS WITH ME -- THAT I HAD TO
  • 00:13:12.982 --> 00:13:14.550
  • WAS WITH ME -- THAT I HAD TOGO: WELL, GOODNESS GRACIOUS...
  • 00:13:14.550 --> 00:13:16.118
  • GO: WELL, GOODNESS GRACIOUS...THEY'RE ACTUALLY INNOCENT IN
  • 00:13:16.118 --> 00:13:16.852
  • THEY'RE ACTUALLY INNOCENT INTHE OFFENCE.
  • 00:13:16.852 --> 00:13:18.320
  • THE OFFENCE.BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T PASS BY ME
  • 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:19.688
  • BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T PASS BY MEWITHOUT PRESSING THAT BUTTON.
  • 00:13:19.688 --> 00:13:22.658
  • WITHOUT PRESSING THAT BUTTON.AND SO, I DO THINK WE HAVE TO
  • 00:13:22.658 --> 00:13:23.826
  • AND SO, I DO THINK WE HAVE TOGET AT THE ROOTS OF OUR OWN.
  • 00:13:23.826 --> 00:13:24.994
  • GET AT THE ROOTS OF OUR OWN.- JOYCE: THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE
  • 00:13:24.994 --> 00:13:25.961
  • - JOYCE: THE AMPLIFIED BIBLESAYS NOT TO BE TOUCHY, THAT
  • 00:13:25.961 --> 00:13:26.862
  • SAYS NOT TO BE TOUCHY, THATLOVE IS NOT TOUCHY.
  • 00:13:26.862 --> 00:13:27.596
  • LOVE IS NOT TOUCHY.AND I HAD A SHOW ON, THE OTHER
  • 00:13:27.596 --> 00:13:29.298
  • AND I HAD A SHOW ON, THE OTHERDAY, CALLED "TOUCHY, TOUCHY,
  • 00:13:29.298 --> 00:13:30.199
  • DAY, CALLED "TOUCHY, TOUCHY,TOUCHY."
  • 00:13:30.199 --> 00:13:30.766
  • TOUCHY."[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:30.766 --> 00:13:32.534
  • [LAUGHTER]AND, UH, I WAS JUST NOTICING
  • 00:13:32.534 --> 00:13:35.237
  • AND, UH, I WAS JUST NOTICINGHOW MANY PEOPLE WATCHED THAT
  • 00:13:35.237 --> 00:13:36.906
  • HOW MANY PEOPLE WATCHED THATSHOW COMPARED TO ONE I DID, THE
  • 00:13:36.906 --> 00:13:38.107
  • SHOW COMPARED TO ONE I DID, THESAME WEEK, ON GIVING.
  • 00:13:38.107 --> 00:13:39.475
  • SAME WEEK, ON GIVING.- LISA: OH, YEAH.
  • 00:13:39.475 --> 00:13:40.476
  • - LISA: OH, YEAH.- JOYCE: [LAUGHS]
  • 00:13:40.476 --> 00:13:41.710
  • - JOYCE: [LAUGHS]IT WAS VERY LOW VIEWERSHIP.
  • 00:13:41.710 --> 00:13:43.012
  • IT WAS VERY LOW VIEWERSHIP.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:43.012 --> 00:13:43.979
  • [LAUGHTER]- LAURIE: YEAH...YEAH.
  • 00:13:43.979 --> 00:13:45.147
  • - LAURIE: YEAH...YEAH.I LOVE ONE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.
  • 00:13:45.147 --> 00:13:46.949
  • I LOVE ONE OF THE TRANSLATIONS.IT SAYS IN 1 CORINTHIANS 13,
  • 00:13:46.949 --> 00:13:48.250
  • IT SAYS IN 1 CORINTHIANS 13,WHEN IT'S GOING THROUGH THE
  • 00:13:48.250 --> 00:13:50.386
  • WHEN IT'S GOING THROUGH THELOVE...LANGUAGE.
  • 00:13:50.386 --> 00:13:51.587
  • LOVE...LANGUAGE.IT SAYS, LOVE IS WHEN YOU
  • 00:13:51.587 --> 00:13:53.522
  • IT SAYS, LOVE IS WHEN YOUDON'T EVEN NOTICE WHEN SOMEONE
  • 00:13:53.522 --> 00:13:55.124
  • DON'T EVEN NOTICE WHEN SOMEONEDOES YOU WRONG.
  • 00:13:55.124 --> 00:13:55.991
  • DOES YOU WRONG.- JOYCE: WELL, I'M NOT QUITE
  • 00:13:55.991 --> 00:13:57.126
  • - JOYCE: WELL, I'M NOT QUITETHERE, YET, BUT...
  • 00:13:57.126 --> 00:13:57.693
  • THERE, YET, BUT...- LAURIE: I KNOW -- ME,
  • 00:13:57.693 --> 00:13:58.427
  • - LAURIE: I KNOW -- ME,NEITHER!
  • 00:13:58.427 --> 00:13:58.994
  • NEITHER![LAUGHTER]
  • 00:13:58.994 --> 00:14:00.629
  • [LAUGHTER]IT'S GOOD GOALS.
  • 00:14:00.629 --> 00:14:01.196
  • IT'S GOOD GOALS.- LISA: RIGHT.
  • 00:14:01.196 --> 00:14:01.997
  • - LISA: RIGHT.- LAURIE: BUT IT SAYS: LET GO
  • 00:14:01.997 --> 00:14:02.498
  • - LAURIE: BUT IT SAYS: LET GOOF OFFENCE.
  • 00:14:02.498 --> 00:14:03.165
  • OF OFFENCE.THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NEVER
  • 00:14:03.165 --> 00:14:03.799
  • THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NEVERGONNA BE OFFENDED.
  • 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:05.034
  • GONNA BE OFFENDED.YOU GOTTA LET IT GO.
  • 00:14:05.034 --> 00:14:06.802
  • YOU GOTTA LET IT GO.THERE'S SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY,
  • 00:14:06.802 --> 00:14:08.537
  • THERE'S SITUATIONS, ESPECIALLY,I THINK, WITH THE PROXIMITY --
  • 00:14:08.537 --> 00:14:10.973
  • I THINK, WITH THE PROXIMITY --PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSE TO YOU
  • 00:14:10.973 --> 00:14:12.875
  • PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSE TO YOUARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT CAN
  • 00:14:12.875 --> 00:14:13.509
  • ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT CANPROBABLY CUT TO THE CORE A
  • 00:14:13.509 --> 00:14:14.376
  • PROBABLY CUT TO THE CORE ALITTLE HARDER.
  • 00:14:14.376 --> 00:14:15.244
  • LITTLE HARDER.MAYBE YOUR KIDS.
  • 00:14:15.244 --> 00:14:16.578
  • MAYBE YOUR KIDS.MAYBE YOUR SPOUSE.
  • 00:14:16.578 --> 00:14:17.947
  • MAYBE YOUR SPOUSE.NOT MEANING TO.
  • 00:14:17.947 --> 00:14:19.048
  • NOT MEANING TO.BUT YOU JUST THINK: OH...
  • 00:14:19.048 --> 00:14:19.949
  • BUT YOU JUST THINK: OH...THAT HURT.
  • 00:14:19.949 --> 00:14:21.050
  • THAT HURT.YOU KNOW?
  • 00:14:21.050 --> 00:14:22.051
  • YOU KNOW?TOUCHY, TOUCHY, TOUCHY,
  • 00:14:22.051 --> 00:14:25.788
  • TOUCHY, TOUCHY, TOUCHY,RIGHT THERE.
  • 00:14:25.788 --> 00:14:26.789
  • RIGHT THERE.AND SO, THAT OFFENDED ME.
  • 00:14:26.789 --> 00:14:27.189
  • AND SO, THAT OFFENDED ME.BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:14:27.189 --> 00:14:28.223
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?IN THINKING THE BEST IN
  • 00:14:28.223 --> 00:14:28.857
  • IN THINKING THE BEST INSOMEBODY -- HE DID NOT MEAN TO
  • 00:14:28.857 --> 00:14:30.059
  • SOMEBODY -- HE DID NOT MEAN TODO THAT.
  • 00:14:30.059 --> 00:14:31.360
  • DO THAT.- JOYCE: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.062
  • - JOYCE: THAT'S RIGHT.THAT'S SO HELPFUL TO ME.
  • 00:14:33.062 --> 00:14:33.629
  • THAT'S SO HELPFUL TO ME.- LAURIE: THAT IS NOT--
  • 00:14:33.629 --> 00:14:34.363
  • - LAURIE: THAT IS NOT--IT'S TRUE.
  • 00:14:34.363 --> 00:14:34.997
  • IT'S TRUE.AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:14:34.997 --> 00:14:35.497
  • AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RECALLED TO DO.
  • 00:14:35.497 --> 00:14:38.467
  • CALLED TO DO.AND I LOVE GOD.
  • 00:14:38.467 --> 00:14:39.902
  • AND I LOVE GOD.I LOVE THAT ALL HIS LAWS AREN'T
  • 00:14:39.902 --> 00:14:41.804
  • I LOVE THAT ALL HIS LAWS AREN'TFOR US NOT TO HAVE FUN, NOT
  • 00:14:41.804 --> 00:14:42.972
  • FOR US NOT TO HAVE FUN, NOTTO-- FOR IT TO KEEP US IN
  • 00:14:42.972 --> 00:14:44.940
  • TO-- FOR IT TO KEEP US INTHIS...YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE
  • 00:14:44.940 --> 00:14:48.610
  • THIS...YOU KNOW, THIS PLACEOF...JUST...NOT HAVING...
  • 00:14:48.610 --> 00:14:49.545
  • OF...JUST...NOT HAVING...- CECE: UNHAPPINESS.
  • 00:14:49.545 --> 00:14:50.312
  • - CECE: UNHAPPINESS.- LAURIE: YEAH -- UNHAPPINESS.
  • 00:14:50.312 --> 00:14:51.113
  • - LAURIE: YEAH -- UNHAPPINESS.IT'S LIKE: BUT IT'S ALL FOR OUR
  • 00:14:51.113 --> 00:14:51.613
  • IT'S LIKE: BUT IT'S ALL FOR OURGOOD.
  • 00:14:51.613 --> 00:14:53.282
  • GOOD.IT'S ALL TO GIVE US A PEACEFUL,
  • 00:14:53.282 --> 00:14:54.750
  • IT'S ALL TO GIVE US A PEACEFUL,WONDERFUL, PROSPEROUS, HEALTHY
  • 00:14:54.750 --> 00:14:57.286
  • WONDERFUL, PROSPEROUS, HEALTHYLIFE.
  • 00:14:57.286 --> 00:14:59.121
  • LIFE.AND PEACE...IN OUR SOULS.
  • 00:14:59.121 --> 00:15:00.222
  • AND PEACE...IN OUR SOULS.- LISA: I'VE HAD SO MANY
  • 00:15:00.222 --> 00:15:02.624
  • - LISA: I'VE HAD SO MANYPEOPLE SPEAK...HEARD THEM SPEAK
  • 00:15:02.624 --> 00:15:03.425
  • PEOPLE SPEAK...HEARD THEM SPEAKOR THEM SAY DIRECTLY TO ME:
  • 00:15:03.425 --> 00:15:05.027
  • OR THEM SAY DIRECTLY TO ME:"OHHH, GET READY, GET READY,
  • 00:15:05.027 --> 00:15:06.962
  • "OHHH, GET READY, GET READY,BECAUSE MISSY IS JUST STEPPING
  • 00:15:06.962 --> 00:15:08.397
  • BECAUSE MISSY IS JUST STEPPINGINTO PUBERTY."
  • 00:15:08.397 --> 00:15:11.000
  • INTO PUBERTY."UM...SHE'S 11 1/2.
  • 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:11.700
  • UM...SHE'S 11 1/2.AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR,
  • 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:12.935
  • AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR,SOMETIMES, OTHER MAMAS NOT
  • 00:15:12.935 --> 00:15:13.635
  • SOMETIMES, OTHER MAMAS NOTREALIZING THEY'RE SPEAKING
  • 00:15:13.635 --> 00:15:14.970
  • REALIZING THEY'RE SPEAKINGDEATH.
  • 00:15:14.970 --> 00:15:16.205
  • DEATH.AND IT'S THAT: "OHHH, IT'S
  • 00:15:16.205 --> 00:15:16.905
  • AND IT'S THAT: "OHHH, IT'SGONNA BE REALLY HARD."
  • 00:15:16.905 --> 00:15:18.407
  • GONNA BE REALLY HARD."AND I JUST FOUND MYSELF
  • 00:15:18.407 --> 00:15:20.175
  • AND I JUST FOUND MYSELFTHINKING: YOU KNOW, IT TOOK ME
  • 00:15:20.175 --> 00:15:21.543
  • THINKING: YOU KNOW, IT TOOK MEA LONG TIME TO BECOME A MOM
  • 00:15:21.543 --> 00:15:23.112
  • A LONG TIME TO BECOME A MOMBECAUSE I WAS SO FOOLISH.
  • 00:15:23.112 --> 00:15:25.114
  • BECAUSE I WAS SO FOOLISH.AND GOD HAS BEEN SO
  • 00:15:25.114 --> 00:15:26.648
  • AND GOD HAS BEEN SOEXTRAORDINARILY REDEMPTIVE IN
  • 00:15:26.648 --> 00:15:29.118
  • EXTRAORDINARILY REDEMPTIVE INALLOWING ME TO BECOME A MAMA SO
  • 00:15:29.118 --> 00:15:31.954
  • ALLOWING ME TO BECOME A MAMA SOLATE IN LIFE, RESTORED SO MUCH
  • 00:15:31.954 --> 00:15:34.323
  • LATE IN LIFE, RESTORED SO MUCHTHAT-- THAT I HAD-- HAD, UM,
  • 00:15:34.323 --> 00:15:35.824
  • THAT-- THAT I HAD-- HAD, UM,SQUANDERED THAT I THOUGHT: I'M
  • 00:15:35.824 --> 00:15:37.760
  • SQUANDERED THAT I THOUGHT: I'MJUST NOT GONNA RECEIVE THAT.
  • 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:39.161
  • JUST NOT GONNA RECEIVE THAT.I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE
  • 00:15:39.161 --> 00:15:39.661
  • I JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BEDIFFERENT.
  • 00:15:39.661 --> 00:15:41.263
  • DIFFERENT.BUT I'M NOT GONNA BELIEVE THAT
  • 00:15:41.263 --> 00:15:43.465
  • BUT I'M NOT GONNA BELIEVE THATIT'S GONNA BE THIS HORRIBLE
  • 00:15:43.465 --> 00:15:44.099
  • IT'S GONNA BE THIS HORRIBLEPICTURE EVERYBODY PAINTS.
  • 00:15:44.099 --> 00:15:46.568
  • PICTURE EVERYBODY PAINTS.WELL, THE OTHER DAY -- THIS
  • 00:15:46.568 --> 00:15:48.704
  • WELL, THE OTHER DAY -- THISWAS LIKE THREE WEEKS AGO, WE
  • 00:15:48.704 --> 00:15:49.972
  • WAS LIKE THREE WEEKS AGO, WEWERE JUST STARTING TRAVELING
  • 00:15:49.972 --> 00:15:51.340
  • WERE JUST STARTING TRAVELINGAGAIN -- BECAUSE OF, UM,
  • 00:15:51.340 --> 00:15:52.674
  • AGAIN -- BECAUSE OF, UM,COVID -- YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELY
  • 00:15:52.674 --> 00:15:54.343
  • COVID -- YOU KNOW, EFFECTIVELYSHUT DOWN TRAVEL -- AND WE WERE
  • 00:15:54.343 --> 00:15:55.411
  • SHUT DOWN TRAVEL -- AND WE WEREGOING TO MONTANA.
  • 00:15:55.411 --> 00:15:57.046
  • GOING TO MONTANA.AND SHE WAS JUST...TOUCHY,
  • 00:15:57.046 --> 00:15:57.646
  • AND SHE WAS JUST...TOUCHY,TOUCHY, TOUCHY.
  • 00:15:57.646 --> 00:15:59.314
  • TOUCHY, TOUCHY.THE WHOLE FLIGHT, SHE JUST
  • 00:15:59.314 --> 00:16:00.849
  • THE WHOLE FLIGHT, SHE JUSTWASN'T HER NORMAL AND KIND OF
  • 00:16:00.849 --> 00:16:02.718
  • WASN'T HER NORMAL AND KIND OFWINSOME SELF.
  • 00:16:02.718 --> 00:16:04.787
  • WINSOME SELF.AND WE GET TO THE HOTEL, AND I
  • 00:16:04.787 --> 00:16:06.688
  • AND WE GET TO THE HOTEL, AND ISAID: "HONEY, HAVE I DONE
  • 00:16:06.688 --> 00:16:07.556
  • SAID: "HONEY, HAVE I DONESOMETHING TO GET ON YOUR
  • 00:16:07.556 --> 00:16:08.991
  • SOMETHING TO GET ON YOURNERVES?"
  • 00:16:08.991 --> 00:16:11.794
  • NERVES?"AND SHE SAID: "YES, MA'AM.
  • 00:16:11.794 --> 00:16:13.095
  • AND SHE SAID: "YES, MA'AM.DOES THAT HURT YOUR FEELINGS?"
  • 00:16:13.095 --> 00:16:13.595
  • DOES THAT HURT YOUR FEELINGS?"[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:16:13.595 --> 00:16:14.329
  • [LAUGHTER]AND I SAID: "NO, BABY, IT
  • 00:16:14.329 --> 00:16:14.863
  • AND I SAID: "NO, BABY, ITDOESN'T.
  • 00:16:14.863 --> 00:16:17.099
  • DOESN'T.IT'S ACTUALLY SUPER NATURAL,
  • 00:16:17.099 --> 00:16:18.734
  • IT'S ACTUALLY SUPER NATURAL,BECAUSE YOU'RE GROWING UP AND--
  • 00:16:18.734 --> 00:16:20.769
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE GROWING UP AND--AND I'M ALL UP IN YOUR SPACE."
  • 00:16:20.769 --> 00:16:23.405
  • AND I'M ALL UP IN YOUR SPACE."AND I SAID: "SO, NO -- YOU WERE
  • 00:16:23.405 --> 00:16:24.606
  • AND I SAID: "SO, NO -- YOU WEREREALLY RESPECTFUL, AND IT'S
  • 00:16:24.606 --> 00:16:26.008
  • REALLY RESPECTFUL, AND IT'SREALLY NATURAL, SO HOW 'BOUT I
  • 00:16:26.008 --> 00:16:28.110
  • REALLY NATURAL, SO HOW 'BOUT IGIVE YOU THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM.
  • 00:16:28.110 --> 00:16:29.845
  • GIVE YOU THAT SIDE OF THE ROOM.AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUDYING
  • 00:16:29.845 --> 00:16:30.446
  • AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUDYINGTO DO, SO I'LL BE ON THIS SIDE
  • 00:16:30.446 --> 00:16:32.614
  • TO DO, SO I'LL BE ON THIS SIDEOF THE ROOM.
  • 00:16:32.614 --> 00:16:35.217
  • OF THE ROOM.AND YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU
  • 00:16:35.217 --> 00:16:35.818
  • AND YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOUWANT, AND I WANT TALK FOR
  • 00:16:35.818 --> 00:16:36.952
  • WANT, AND I WANT TALK FORA LITTLE WHILE."
  • 00:16:36.952 --> 00:16:37.553
  • A LITTLE WHILE."AND SHE WAS JUST KIND OF
  • 00:16:37.553 --> 00:16:39.321
  • AND SHE WAS JUST KIND OFSURPRISED.
  • 00:16:39.321 --> 00:16:40.589
  • SURPRISED.AND I WAS LIKE: MY BABY GIRL'S
  • 00:16:40.589 --> 00:16:41.623
  • AND I WAS LIKE: MY BABY GIRL'SGROWING UP.
  • 00:16:41.623 --> 00:16:44.126
  • GROWING UP.AND I WANT TO FACILITATE THAT.
  • 00:16:44.126 --> 00:16:45.127
  • AND I WANT TO FACILITATE THAT.- CECE: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:16:45.127 --> 00:16:45.727
  • - CECE: THAT'S GOOD.IT'S AWESOME.
  • 00:16:45.727 --> 00:16:46.495
  • IT'S AWESOME.- LISA: BECAUSE I WANT OUR
  • 00:16:46.495 --> 00:16:47.830
  • - LISA: BECAUSE I WANT OURRELATIONSHIP TO BE REALLY,
  • 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:48.464
  • RELATIONSHIP TO BE REALLY,REALLY CLOSE.
  • 00:16:48.464 --> 00:16:49.098
  • REALLY CLOSE.AND I FOUND MYSELF ON THIS SIDE
  • 00:16:49.098 --> 00:16:49.998
  • AND I FOUND MYSELF ON THIS SIDEOF THE ROOM.
  • 00:16:49.998 --> 00:16:50.666
  • OF THE ROOM.AND, OF COURSE, SHE WAS GREAT,
  • 00:16:50.666 --> 00:16:51.533
  • AND, OF COURSE, SHE WAS GREAT,LATER.
  • 00:16:51.533 --> 00:16:52.768
  • LATER.I MEAN, IT WAS WONDERFUL.
  • 00:16:52.768 --> 00:16:54.336
  • I MEAN, IT WAS WONDERFUL.BUT I THOUGHT: HOW MANY TIMES
  • 00:16:54.336 --> 00:16:55.671
  • BUT I THOUGHT: HOW MANY TIMESHAVE I NOT GIVEN SOMEBODY THAT
  • 00:16:55.671 --> 00:16:58.273
  • HAVE I NOT GIVEN SOMEBODY THATKIND OF ROOM WHEN I STEP TOO
  • 00:16:58.273 --> 00:17:00.909
  • KIND OF ROOM WHEN I STEP TOOCLOSE OR I SAID SOMETHING?
  • 00:17:00.909 --> 00:17:02.478
  • CLOSE OR I SAID SOMETHING?AND IT MAY NOT EVEN HAVE BEEN
  • 00:17:02.478 --> 00:17:03.712
  • AND IT MAY NOT EVEN HAVE BEENME, BUT EITHER I'VE OFFENDED
  • 00:17:03.712 --> 00:17:04.346
  • ME, BUT EITHER I'VE OFFENDEDTHEM OR I'VE TAKEN OFFENCE AT
  • 00:17:04.346 --> 00:17:05.314
  • THEM OR I'VE TAKEN OFFENCE ATSOMETHING THEY SAID.
  • 00:17:05.314 --> 00:17:06.615
  • SOMETHING THEY SAID.BUT IT-- IT REALLY WASN'T ABOUT
  • 00:17:06.615 --> 00:17:07.883
  • BUT IT-- IT REALLY WASN'T ABOUTME.
  • 00:17:07.883 --> 00:17:08.817
  • ME.I'M NOT THE HUB OF EVERY WHEEL.
  • 00:17:08.817 --> 00:17:10.552
  • I'M NOT THE HUB OF EVERY WHEEL.SO, LET ME JUST BACK UP AND GO:
  • 00:17:10.552 --> 00:17:12.454
  • SO, LET ME JUST BACK UP AND GO:JESUS, BRING PEACE AND LET ME
  • 00:17:12.454 --> 00:17:13.856
  • JESUS, BRING PEACE AND LET MEBLESS THEM.
  • 00:17:13.856 --> 00:17:15.057
  • BLESS THEM.AND IT ACTUALLY DOES BRING
  • 00:17:15.057 --> 00:17:16.558
  • AND IT ACTUALLY DOES BRINGSO MUCH MORE JOY TO OUR
  • 00:17:16.558 --> 00:17:18.494
  • SO MUCH MORE JOY TO OURRELATIONSHIPS TO NOT BE--
  • 00:17:18.494 --> 00:17:19.962
  • RELATIONSHIPS TO NOT BE--I WANNA BE TEFLON WHEN IT COMES
  • 00:17:19.962 --> 00:17:22.598
  • I WANNA BE TEFLON WHEN IT COMESTO TAKING OFFENCE.
  • 00:17:22.598 --> 00:17:23.198
  • TO TAKING OFFENCE.I JUST WANNA BE LIKE: NOPE,
  • 00:17:23.198 --> 00:17:24.500
  • I JUST WANNA BE LIKE: NOPE,THAT'S NOT STICKING.
  • 00:17:24.500 --> 00:17:25.167
  • THAT'S NOT STICKING.- JOYCE: YOU KNOW, BEING ANGRY
  • 00:17:25.167 --> 00:17:25.701
  • - JOYCE: YOU KNOW, BEING ANGRYIS HARD WORK.
  • 00:17:25.701 --> 00:17:26.535
  • IS HARD WORK.- LISA: IT IS REALLY HARD.
  • 00:17:26.535 --> 00:17:27.469
  • - LISA: IT IS REALLY HARD.- CECE: YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OF
  • 00:17:27.469 --> 00:17:28.604
  • - CECE: YEAH, THAT'S A LOT OFWORK.
  • 00:17:28.604 --> 00:17:29.204
  • WORK.- LISA: AND IT'S MISERABLE!
  • 00:17:29.204 --> 00:17:30.372
  • - LISA: AND IT'S MISERABLE!- CECE: HOLDING ONTO
  • 00:17:30.372 --> 00:17:30.973
  • - CECE: HOLDING ONTO- JOYCE: I MEAN, IF FOR NO
  • 00:17:30.973 --> 00:17:32.341
  • - JOYCE: I MEAN, IF FOR NOOTHER REASON, I JUST CAN'T
  • 00:17:32.341 --> 00:17:33.642
  • OTHER REASON, I JUST CAN'TPHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY
  • 00:17:33.642 --> 00:17:34.676
  • PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLYHANDLE IT ANYMORE.
  • 00:17:34.676 --> 00:17:35.577
  • HANDLE IT ANYMORE.- LAURIE: FACILITATE THAT,
  • 00:17:35.577 --> 00:17:36.411
  • - LAURIE: FACILITATE THAT,RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:17:36.411 --> 00:17:38.180
  • RIGHT NOW.- JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I'M TOO--
  • 00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:39.014
  • - JOYCE: YOU KNOW, I'M TOO--I'VE BEEN AROUND TOO MANY YEARS
  • 00:17:39.014 --> 00:17:40.048
  • I'VE BEEN AROUND TOO MANY YEARSTO...TO TAKE THE...THE STRAIN
  • 00:17:40.048 --> 00:17:42.151
  • TO...TO TAKE THE...THE STRAINOF HAVING TO BE MAD AT YOU,
  • 00:17:42.151 --> 00:17:42.918
  • OF HAVING TO BE MAD AT YOU,ALL DAY.
  • 00:17:42.918 --> 00:17:43.652
  • ALL DAY.- LISA: RIGHT.
  • 00:17:43.652 --> 00:17:44.219
  • - LISA: RIGHT.- JOYCE: [CHUCKLES]
  • 00:17:44.219 --> 00:17:45.320
  • - JOYCE: [CHUCKLES]IT'S LIKE: I JUST DON'T WANNA
  • 00:17:45.320 --> 00:17:45.687
  • IT'S LIKE: I JUST DON'T WANNADO IT.
  • 00:17:45.687 --> 00:17:46.388
  • DO IT.- ELISABETH: IT'S EXHAUSTING!
  • 00:17:46.388 --> 00:17:46.788
  • - ELISABETH: IT'S EXHAUSTING!- JOYCE: IT IS.
  • 00:17:46.788 --> 00:17:47.256
  • - JOYCE: IT IS.IT'S EXHAUSTING.
  • 00:17:47.256 --> 00:17:47.990
  • IT'S EXHAUSTING.AND IT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANY
  • 00:17:47.990 --> 00:17:49.258
  • AND IT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANYGOOD.
  • 00:17:49.258 --> 00:17:50.292
  • GOOD.IT NEVER SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
  • 00:17:50.292 --> 00:17:51.260
  • IT NEVER SOLVES THE PROBLEM.IT NEVER MAKES IT GO AWAY.
  • 00:17:51.260 --> 00:17:52.494
  • IT NEVER MAKES IT GO AWAY.- CECE: NEVER.
  • 00:17:52.494 --> 00:17:53.428
  • - CECE: NEVER.- JOYCE: ONLY GOD CAN CHANGE A
  • 00:17:53.428 --> 00:17:54.363
  • - JOYCE: ONLY GOD CAN CHANGE APERSON'S HEART, AND, IF WE
  • 00:17:54.363 --> 00:17:57.399
  • PERSON'S HEART, AND, IF WEFORGIVE...YOU KNOW, WE THINK
  • 00:17:57.399 --> 00:17:59.468
  • FORGIVE...YOU KNOW, WE THINKIT'S HARD.
  • 00:17:59.468 --> 00:18:02.137
  • IT'S HARD.BUT...ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
  • 00:18:02.137 --> 00:18:04.406
  • BUT...ONE OF THE THINGS THATI'VE LEARNED IS EVERYTHING
  • 00:18:04.406 --> 00:18:05.340
  • I'VE LEARNED IS EVERYTHINGTHAT GOD TELLS US TO
  • 00:18:05.340 --> 00:18:06.642
  • THAT GOD TELLS US TODO IS FOR OUR BENEFIT.
  • 00:18:06.642 --> 00:18:07.643
  • DO IS FOR OUR BENEFIT.- LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:07.643 --> 00:18:08.677
  • - LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.- JOYCE: EVERYTHING.
  • 00:18:08.677 --> 00:18:09.811
  • - JOYCE: EVERYTHING.I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS -- IF
  • 00:18:09.811 --> 00:18:11.813
  • I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS -- IFIT'S GIVE, IF IT'S FORGIVE...
  • 00:18:11.813 --> 00:18:15.517
  • IT'S GIVE, IF IT'S FORGIVE...YOU GO AND APOLOGIZE.
  • 00:18:15.517 --> 00:18:16.185
  • YOU GO AND APOLOGIZE.(WHINY VOICE) "WELL, I'M ALWAYS
  • 00:18:16.185 --> 00:18:16.852
  • (WHINY VOICE) "WELL, I'M ALWAYSTHE ONE WHO APOLOGIZES FIRST."
  • 00:18:16.852 --> 00:18:17.986
  • THE ONE WHO APOLOGIZES FIRST."WELL...YOU KNOW, JUST DO WHAT
  • 00:18:17.986 --> 00:18:20.222
  • WELL...YOU KNOW, JUST DO WHATGOD ASKS YOU TO DO, BECAUSE
  • 00:18:20.222 --> 00:18:22.591
  • GOD ASKS YOU TO DO, BECAUSEHE'S ONLY TELLING YOU THAT FOR
  • 00:18:22.591 --> 00:18:23.492
  • HE'S ONLY TELLING YOU THAT FORYOUR-- IT'S ONLY GONNA HELP
  • 00:18:23.492 --> 00:18:24.726
  • YOUR-- IT'S ONLY GONNA HELPYOU.
  • 00:18:24.726 --> 00:18:26.328
  • YOU.IT'S GONNA BE BETTER FOR YOU.
  • 00:18:26.328 --> 00:18:27.596
  • IT'S GONNA BE BETTER FOR YOU.- CECE: RIGHT, AND DON'T FEEL
  • 00:18:27.596 --> 00:18:28.297
  • - CECE: RIGHT, AND DON'T FEELLIKE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
  • 00:18:28.297 --> 00:18:29.097
  • LIKE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUTEVERYTHING.
  • 00:18:29.097 --> 00:18:30.899
  • EVERYTHING.HIS WAYS ARE NOT LIKE OUR WAYS.
  • 00:18:30.899 --> 00:18:31.667
  • HIS WAYS ARE NOT LIKE OUR WAYS.- LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:18:31.667 --> 00:18:32.801
  • - LISA: THAT'S RIGHT.- JOYCE: YEAH.
  • 00:18:32.801 --> 00:18:34.069
  • - JOYCE: YEAH.- CECE: [LAUGHS HEARTILY]
  • 00:18:34.069 --> 00:18:35.204
  • - CECE: [LAUGHS HEARTILY]SO, WHEN WE TRUST HIM IN HIS
  • 00:18:35.204 --> 00:18:36.572
  • SO, WHEN WE TRUST HIM IN HISWAYS, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE
  • 00:18:36.572 --> 00:18:37.673
  • WAYS, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BETHE HEAD AND NOT THE TAIL.
  • 00:18:37.673 --> 00:18:38.173
  • THE HEAD AND NOT THE TAIL.YOU KNOW?
  • 00:18:38.173 --> 00:18:39.174
  • YOU KNOW?ABOVE AND NOT BENEATH.
  • 00:18:39.174 --> 00:18:41.009
  • ABOVE AND NOT BENEATH.AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE
  • 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:43.111
  • AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERETALKING ABOUT, OFFENCE -- I
  • 00:18:43.111 --> 00:18:44.479
  • TALKING ABOUT, OFFENCE -- ITHINK A LOT OF TIMES WE HOLD
  • 00:18:44.479 --> 00:18:45.347
  • THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE HOLDONTO OFFENCE BECAUSE WE'RE
  • 00:18:45.347 --> 00:18:46.815
  • ONTO OFFENCE BECAUSE WE'RESO...INTO OURSELVES.
  • 00:18:46.815 --> 00:18:47.883
  • SO...INTO OURSELVES.- LISA: MM-HMM.
  • 00:18:47.883 --> 00:18:48.450
  • - LISA: MM-HMM.- LAURIE: NARCISSISM.
  • 00:18:48.450 --> 00:18:49.418
  • - LAURIE: NARCISSISM.- CECE: YOU KNOW?
  • 00:18:49.418 --> 00:18:49.818
  • - CECE: YOU KNOW?IT'S ALWAYS ME.
  • 00:18:49.818 --> 00:18:50.485
  • IT'S ALWAYS ME.- JOYCE: YOU HURT ME.
  • 00:18:50.485 --> 00:18:51.119
  • - JOYCE: YOU HURT ME.- CECE: IT'S ALWAYS: ME, ME,
  • 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:51.820
  • - CECE: IT'S ALWAYS: ME, ME,ME.
  • 00:18:51.820 --> 00:18:52.821
  • ME.- LAURIE: IT'S NOT ME.
  • 00:18:52.821 --> 00:18:53.989
  • - LAURIE: IT'S NOT ME.- CECE: ME. ME.
  • 00:18:53.989 --> 00:18:54.756
  • - CECE: ME. ME.AND THE WORD TELLS US
  • 00:18:54.756 --> 00:18:57.926
  • AND THE WORD TELLS USTO...THINK OF OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:18:57.926 --> 00:18:58.560
  • TO...THINK OF OTHER PEOPLE.AND THE THING THAT MAKES ME--
  • 00:18:58.560 --> 00:18:59.628
  • AND THE THING THAT MAKES ME--I'LL LET OFFENCE GO SO QUICK.
  • 00:18:59.628 --> 00:19:00.996
  • I'LL LET OFFENCE GO SO QUICK.I'M QUICK TO FORGIVE.
  • 00:19:00.996 --> 00:19:01.630
  • I'M QUICK TO FORGIVE.- LAURIE: YES.
  • 00:19:01.630 --> 00:19:03.599
  • - LAURIE: YES.THANK YOU.
  • 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:04.666
  • THANK YOU.- CECE: I'M QUICK TO FORGIVE,
  • 00:19:04.666 --> 00:19:05.867
  • - CECE: I'M QUICK TO FORGIVE,BECAUSE, I JUST ALWAYS THINK
  • 00:19:05.867 --> 00:19:06.735
  • BECAUSE, I JUST ALWAYS THINKABOUT: WHAT IF GOD DIDN'T
  • 00:19:06.735 --> 00:19:08.870
  • ABOUT: WHAT IF GOD DIDN'TFORGIVE ME EVERY DAY?
  • 00:19:08.870 --> 00:19:09.404
  • FORGIVE ME EVERY DAY?YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'?
  • 00:19:09.404 --> 00:19:10.672
  • YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYIN'?BECAUSE THE WORD TELLS US IF WE
  • 00:19:10.672 --> 00:19:11.340
  • BECAUSE THE WORD TELLS US IF WEDON'T FORGIVE, WE CAN'T RECEIVE
  • 00:19:11.340 --> 00:19:14.009
  • DON'T FORGIVE, WE CAN'T RECEIVEFORGIVENESS.
  • 00:19:14.009 --> 00:19:15.077
  • FORGIVENESS.AND SO, IT'S LIKE: OH...OKAY.
  • 00:19:15.077 --> 00:19:16.912
  • AND SO, IT'S LIKE: OH...OKAY.WELL, I FORGIVE YOU.
  • 00:19:16.912 --> 00:19:17.713
  • WELL, I FORGIVE YOU.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:19:17.713 --> 00:19:19.181
  • [LAUGHTER]IT'S OKAY.
  • 00:19:19.181 --> 00:19:20.315
  • IT'S OKAY.IT DOESN'T MATTER.
  • 00:19:20.315 --> 00:19:22.050
  • IT DOESN'T MATTER.BECAUSE, IF NOT, THEN, WHERE
  • 00:19:22.050 --> 00:19:23.352
  • BECAUSE, IF NOT, THEN, WHEREWILL WE BE?
  • 00:19:23.352 --> 00:19:25.220
  • WILL WE BE?AS YOU WALK IN LIFE AND TO SEE
  • 00:19:25.220 --> 00:19:28.557
  • AS YOU WALK IN LIFE AND TO SEESOMEONE...THAT HAS WALKED THIS
  • 00:19:28.557 --> 00:19:29.524
  • SOMEONE...THAT HAS WALKED THISOUT -- YOU KNOW, IT'S SO
  • 00:19:29.524 --> 00:19:30.659
  • OUT -- YOU KNOW, IT'S SOBEAUTIFUL AND IT'S SO POWERFUL.
  • 00:19:30.659 --> 00:19:31.960
  • BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S SO POWERFUL.BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE TO COME TO
  • 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.495
  • BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE TO COME TOTHE RESOLVE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO
  • 00:19:33.495 --> 00:19:34.696
  • THE RESOLVE THAT WE'RE GONNA DOIT GOD'S WAY.
  • 00:19:34.696 --> 00:19:36.164
  • IT GOD'S WAY.IF WE'RE GONNA REAP THE
  • 00:19:36.164 --> 00:19:37.299
  • IF WE'RE GONNA REAP THEBENEFITS OF THE BOOK, THEN
  • 00:19:37.299 --> 00:19:38.433
  • BENEFITS OF THE BOOK, THENWE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT HIS
  • 00:19:38.433 --> 00:19:39.668
  • WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT HISWAY.
  • 00:19:39.668 --> 00:19:41.403
  • WAY.AND NOT SOME OF THE TIME, BUT
  • 00:19:41.403 --> 00:19:43.005
  • AND NOT SOME OF THE TIME, BUTEVERY SINGLE TIME.
  • 00:19:43.005 --> 00:19:43.605
  • EVERY SINGLE TIME.- JOYCE: AND NONE OF IT WAS
  • 00:19:43.605 --> 00:19:44.172
  • - JOYCE: AND NONE OF IT WASEASY FOR ME.
  • 00:19:44.172 --> 00:19:45.240
  • EASY FOR ME.- CECE: MM...
  • 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:46.308
  • - CECE: MM...- JOYCE: I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF
  • 00:19:46.308 --> 00:19:47.209
  • - JOYCE: I DIDN'T GET A LOT OFSUPERNATURAL MIRACLES AND --
  • 00:19:47.209 --> 00:19:48.477
  • SUPERNATURAL MIRACLES AND --POOF! -- I HAD A PROBLEM ONE
  • 00:19:48.477 --> 00:19:49.378
  • POOF! -- I HAD A PROBLEM ONEDAY AND THE NEXT DAY IT WAS
  • 00:19:49.378 --> 00:19:49.945
  • DAY AND THE NEXT DAY IT WASGONE.
  • 00:19:49.945 --> 00:19:52.681
  • GONE.I MEAN, I'VE LITERALLY WALKED
  • 00:19:52.681 --> 00:19:54.783
  • I MEAN, I'VE LITERALLY WALKEDTHINGS OUT...WITH GOD.
  • 00:19:54.783 --> 00:19:57.052
  • THINGS OUT...WITH GOD.BUT I THINK GOD LEADS
  • 00:19:57.052 --> 00:20:01.223
  • BUT I THINK GOD LEADSUS THAT WAY SO REALLY
  • 00:20:01.223 --> 00:20:01.823
  • US THAT WAY SO REALLYUNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE
  • 00:20:01.823 --> 00:20:03.025
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT OTHER PEOPLEARE GOING THROUGH AND REALLY
  • 00:20:03.025 --> 00:20:03.892
  • ARE GOING THROUGH AND REALLYHELP THEM.
  • 00:20:03.892 --> 00:20:05.761
  • HELP THEM.YOU KNOW, I THINK, SOMETIMES,
  • 00:20:05.761 --> 00:20:08.664
  • YOU KNOW, I THINK, SOMETIMES,IF YOU'RE JUST SERMONIZING AND
  • 00:20:08.664 --> 00:20:10.065
  • IF YOU'RE JUST SERMONIZING ANDDON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:20:10.065 --> 00:20:10.799
  • DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RETALKING ABOUT, IT'S...IT'S A
  • 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:12.901
  • TALKING ABOUT, IT'S...IT'S ALOT LESS GENUINE.
  • 00:20:12.901 --> 00:20:14.736
  • LOT LESS GENUINE.AND I'VE...I'VE BEEN THROUGH A
  • 00:20:14.736 --> 00:20:17.072
  • AND I'VE...I'VE BEEN THROUGH ALOT OF STUFF.
  • 00:20:17.072 --> 00:20:17.873
  • LOT OF STUFF.YOU KNOW.
  • 00:20:17.873 --> 00:20:19.274
  • YOU KNOW.A LOT OF STUFF IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:20:19.274 --> 00:20:21.410
  • A LOT OF STUFF IN MY LIFE.AND, UH...I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE
  • 00:20:21.410 --> 00:20:23.412
  • AND, UH...I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKETO HURT, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE
  • 00:20:23.412 --> 00:20:25.013
  • TO HURT, I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKETO BE FULL OF BITTERNESS, AND I
  • 00:20:25.013 --> 00:20:27.883
  • TO BE FULL OF BITTERNESS, AND IKNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GROW TO
  • 00:20:27.883 --> 00:20:29.484
  • KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GROW TOTHE POINT WHERE YOU CAN JUST
  • 00:20:29.484 --> 00:20:30.419
  • THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN JUSTSAY: I'M-- I'M NOT-- NOT GOING
  • 00:20:30.419 --> 00:20:31.019
  • SAY: I'M-- I'M NOT-- NOT GOINGTHERE.
  • 00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:31.787
  • THERE.BEEN THERE, DONE THAT -- NO,
  • 00:20:31.787 --> 00:20:32.220
  • BEEN THERE, DONE THAT -- NO,THANK YOU.
  • 00:20:32.220 --> 00:20:33.388
  • THANK YOU.I JUST-- I FORGIVE YOU.
  • 00:20:33.388 --> 00:20:33.989
  • I JUST-- I FORGIVE YOU.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:20:33.989 --> 00:20:36.792
  • [LAUGHTER]WHATEVER.
  • 00:20:36.792 --> 00:20:38.293
  • WHATEVER.IT'S BETWEEN YOU AND GOD.
  • 00:20:38.293 --> 00:20:38.894
  • IT'S BETWEEN YOU AND GOD.- CECE: YEAH -- BETWEEN YOU
  • 00:20:38.894 --> 00:20:39.361
  • - CECE: YEAH -- BETWEEN YOUAND GOD.
  • 00:20:39.361 --> 00:20:40.062
  • AND GOD.THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:20:40.062 --> 00:20:41.029
  • THAT'S RIGHT.- JOYCE: YEAH.
  • 00:20:41.029 --> 00:20:43.465
  • - JOYCE: YEAH.- LISA: I LOVE THAT YOU
  • 00:20:43.465 --> 00:20:44.666
  • - LISA: I LOVE THAT YOUBROUGHT IT BACK TO THAT...
  • 00:20:44.666 --> 00:20:45.767
  • BROUGHT IT BACK TO THAT...HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS
  • 00:20:45.767 --> 00:20:46.368
  • HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYSWILL BE REDEEMING ON OUR
  • 00:20:46.368 --> 00:20:48.136
  • WILL BE REDEEMING ON OURBEHALF.
  • 00:20:48.136 --> 00:20:48.770
  • BEHALF.BECAUSE I DO THINK, SOMETIMES,
  • 00:20:48.770 --> 00:20:51.039
  • BECAUSE I DO THINK, SOMETIMES,THERE'S A CORNER OF MY HEART
  • 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:52.174
  • THERE'S A CORNER OF MY HEARTTHAT'S AN EMOTIONAL AGNOSTIC
  • 00:20:52.174 --> 00:20:54.710
  • THAT'S AN EMOTIONAL AGNOSTICAND I WONDER IF HE'S REALLY
  • 00:20:54.710 --> 00:20:56.178
  • AND I WONDER IF HE'S REALLYDOING THINGS FOR MY GOOD.
  • 00:20:56.178 --> 00:20:57.979
  • DOING THINGS FOR MY GOOD.- JOYCE: YEAH...
  • 00:20:57.979 --> 00:21:00.816
  • - JOYCE: YEAH...- LISA: AND, AT 57, I CAN SAY,
  • 00:21:00.816 --> 00:21:02.117
  • - LISA: AND, AT 57, I CAN SAY,MORE RESOLUTELY THAN I COULD AT
  • 00:21:02.117 --> 00:21:05.420
  • MORE RESOLUTELY THAN I COULD AT47: HE IS ALWAYS GOOD.
  • 00:21:05.420 --> 00:21:06.455
  • 47: HE IS ALWAYS GOOD.- LAURIE: YES, HE IS.
  • 00:21:06.455 --> 00:21:07.089
  • - LAURIE: YES, HE IS.- LISA: EVEN HIS DISCIPLE IS
  • 00:21:07.089 --> 00:21:07.656
  • - LISA: EVEN HIS DISCIPLE ISMERCIFUL.
  • 00:21:07.656 --> 00:21:08.190
  • MERCIFUL.IT'S ALWAYS FOR MY GOOD.
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:09.391
  • IT'S ALWAYS FOR MY GOOD.IT'S ALWAYS FOR OUR GOOD AND
  • 00:21:09.391 --> 00:21:10.492
  • IT'S ALWAYS FOR OUR GOOD ANDHIS GLORY.
  • 00:21:10.492 --> 00:21:11.727
  • HIS GLORY.SO, I SO APPRECIATE YOUR
  • 00:21:11.727 --> 00:21:13.128
  • SO, I SO APPRECIATE YOURLIFE, THAT YOU CONSISTENTLY
  • 00:21:13.128 --> 00:21:15.731
  • LIFE, THAT YOU CONSISTENTLYPOINT TO: HE'S A GOOD GOD.
  • 00:21:15.731 --> 00:21:17.499
  • POINT TO: HE'S A GOOD GOD.HE'S NOT TRYING TO PUNK US.
  • 00:21:17.499 --> 00:21:18.667
  • HE'S NOT TRYING TO PUNK US.HE'S NOT CAPRICIOUS.
  • 00:21:18.667 --> 00:21:20.902
  • HE'S NOT CAPRICIOUS.HE'S NOT TRYING TO TRICK US.
  • 00:21:20.902 --> 00:21:21.503
  • HE'S NOT TRYING TO TRICK US.- JOYCE: HE'S ALWAYS RIGHT.
  • 00:21:21.503 --> 00:21:22.104
  • - JOYCE: HE'S ALWAYS RIGHT.- LISA: ALWAYS RIGHT.
  • 00:21:22.104 --> 00:21:23.071
  • - LISA: ALWAYS RIGHT.- CECE: ALWAYS RIGHT.
  • 00:21:23.071 --> 00:21:23.905
  • - CECE: ALWAYS RIGHT.- LISA: AND ALWAYS KIND.
  • 00:21:23.905 --> 00:21:25.207
  • - LISA: AND ALWAYS KIND.- CECE: OOH...THAT'LL BRING
  • 00:21:25.207 --> 00:21:25.907
  • - CECE: OOH...THAT'LL BRINGYOU SO MUCH PEACE.
  • 00:21:25.907 --> 00:21:26.742
  • YOU SO MUCH PEACE.- LISA: HE IS SO HOLY,
  • 00:21:26.742 --> 00:21:28.710
  • - LISA: HE IS SO HOLY,BUT SO KIND...
  • 00:21:28.710 --> 00:21:29.478
  • BUT SO KIND...- ELISABETH: SO KIND.
  • 00:21:29.478 --> 00:21:30.078
  • - ELISABETH: SO KIND.- LISA: ...IN HIS HOLINESS.
  • 00:21:30.078 --> 00:21:30.712
  • - LISA: ...IN HIS HOLINESS.- ELISABETH: SO KIND THAT HE
  • 00:21:30.712 --> 00:21:31.847
  • - ELISABETH: SO KIND THAT HETAKES THE STING AWAY.
  • 00:21:31.847 --> 00:21:32.748
  • TAKES THE STING AWAY.YOU KNOW, HAVING WALKED
  • 00:21:32.748 --> 00:21:33.782
  • YOU KNOW, HAVING WALKEDTHROUGH, LIKE, A LONG,
  • 00:21:33.782 --> 00:21:36.284
  • THROUGH, LIKE, A LONG,EMOTIONALLY HARD RELATIONSHIP,
  • 00:21:36.284 --> 00:21:37.552
  • EMOTIONALLY HARD RELATIONSHIP,SO CLOSE AND SO PERSONAL,
  • 00:21:37.552 --> 00:21:39.654
  • SO CLOSE AND SO PERSONAL,I THINK...THERE WAS SO MUCH
  • 00:21:39.654 --> 00:21:43.992
  • I THINK...THERE WAS SO MUCHPAIN FOR ME IN A PLACE
  • 00:21:43.992 --> 00:21:45.327
  • PAIN FOR ME IN A PLACEIN MY HEART THAT I
  • 00:21:45.327 --> 00:21:46.094
  • IN MY HEART THAT IJUST DIDN'T THINK I
  • 00:21:46.094 --> 00:21:46.995
  • JUST DIDN'T THINK ICOULD TAKE ANYMORE.
  • 00:21:46.995 --> 00:21:50.265
  • COULD TAKE ANYMORE.I REMEMBER THE DAY JUST SAYING:
  • 00:21:50.265 --> 00:21:50.866
  • I REMEMBER THE DAY JUST SAYING:"GOD, I'M JUST GONNA TURN
  • 00:21:50.866 --> 00:21:51.333
  • "GOD, I'M JUST GONNA TURNTHIS OVER TO YOU.
  • 00:21:51.333 --> 00:21:51.967
  • THIS OVER TO YOU.I HAVE TRIED TO FIX THIS
  • 00:21:51.967 --> 00:21:52.434
  • I HAVE TRIED TO FIX THISON MY OWN.
  • 00:21:52.434 --> 00:21:54.236
  • ON MY OWN.I'VE TRIED.
  • 00:21:54.236 --> 00:21:54.836
  • I'VE TRIED.I AM TRYING MY WAY INTO MORE
  • 00:21:54.836 --> 00:21:55.704
  • I AM TRYING MY WAY INTO MOREPAIN.
  • 00:21:55.704 --> 00:21:57.139
  • PAIN.AND I THINK THE DAY I DID THAT
  • 00:21:57.139 --> 00:21:58.373
  • AND I THINK THE DAY I DID THAT-- I REMEMBER WHERE I WAS ON
  • 00:21:58.373 --> 00:21:59.307
  • -- I REMEMBER WHERE I WAS ONTHE STREET.
  • 00:21:59.307 --> 00:22:00.475
  • THE STREET.AND IT DIDN'T SOLVE IT, LIKE
  • 00:22:00.475 --> 00:22:01.309
  • AND IT DIDN'T SOLVE IT, LIKEYOU SAID.
  • 00:22:01.309 --> 00:22:02.210
  • YOU SAID.I'M SO GLAD YOU ACKNOWLEDGED
  • 00:22:02.210 --> 00:22:02.711
  • I'M SO GLAD YOU ACKNOWLEDGEDTHAT.
  • 00:22:02.711 --> 00:22:03.678
  • THAT.'CAUSE IT WAS A DAILY THING TO
  • 00:22:03.678 --> 00:22:05.881
  • 'CAUSE IT WAS A DAILY THING TOCONTINUE TO SURRENDER THAT TO
  • 00:22:05.881 --> 00:22:06.348
  • CONTINUE TO SURRENDER THAT TOHIM.
  • 00:22:06.348 --> 00:22:07.883
  • HIM.WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT
  • 00:22:07.883 --> 00:22:09.117
  • WHAT HAPPENED WAS THATALL THE WORDS THAT HAD BEEN
  • 00:22:09.117 --> 00:22:10.385
  • ALL THE WORDS THAT HAD BEENSAID LEADING UP TO THAT, ALL
  • 00:22:10.385 --> 00:22:11.753
  • SAID LEADING UP TO THAT, ALLTHE WORDS THAT USED TO JUST
  • 00:22:11.753 --> 00:22:13.155
  • THE WORDS THAT USED TO JUSTCRUSH ME ON THE DAILY, I
  • 00:22:13.155 --> 00:22:14.890
  • CRUSH ME ON THE DAILY, IALMOST COULDN'T FEEL 'EM.
  • 00:22:14.890 --> 00:22:16.591
  • ALMOST COULDN'T FEEL 'EM.I JUST COULDN'T FEEL THEM, IF I
  • 00:22:16.591 --> 00:22:19.795
  • I JUST COULDN'T FEEL THEM, IF ICHOSE TO START THE DAY JUST...
  • 00:22:19.795 --> 00:22:20.562
  • CHOSE TO START THE DAY JUST...RELEASING THAT AND LETTING IT
  • 00:22:20.562 --> 00:22:21.129
  • RELEASING THAT AND LETTING ITGO TO HIM.
  • 00:22:21.129 --> 00:22:22.264
  • GO TO HIM.IT'S NOT JUST LETTING IT GO.
  • 00:22:22.264 --> 00:22:23.331
  • IT'S NOT JUST LETTING IT GO.YOU GOTTA KNOW WHERE YOU'RE
  • 00:22:23.331 --> 00:22:23.865
  • YOU GOTTA KNOW WHERE YOU'RELETTING IT GO INTO -- NOT
  • 00:22:23.865 --> 00:22:25.133
  • LETTING IT GO INTO -- NOTLETTING IT GO INTO A FRIEND'S
  • 00:22:25.133 --> 00:22:26.067
  • LETTING IT GO INTO A FRIEND'SHANDS, AND NOT LETTIN' IT GO
  • 00:22:26.067 --> 00:22:27.569
  • HANDS, AND NOT LETTIN' IT GOINTO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND NOT
  • 00:22:27.569 --> 00:22:29.070
  • INTO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND NOTLETTIN' IT GO AND SEEP ITS WAY
  • 00:22:29.070 --> 00:22:29.638
  • LETTIN' IT GO AND SEEP ITS WAYINTO MY DAY, AGAIN.
  • 00:22:29.638 --> 00:22:31.239
  • INTO MY DAY, AGAIN.BUT WHEN I LET IT GO TO GOD...
  • 00:22:31.239 --> 00:22:33.108
  • BUT WHEN I LET IT GO TO GOD...WHAT HE-- I HAVE NO WORDS.
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  • WHAT HE-- I HAVE NO WORDS.LIKE, JUST BY HIS GRACE AND
  • 00:22:35.076 --> 00:22:36.077
  • LIKE, JUST BY HIS GRACE ANDMERCY, HE REDEEMED A
  • 00:22:36.077 --> 00:22:37.612
  • MERCY, HE REDEEMED ARELATIONSHIP IN A WAY THAT I
  • 00:22:37.612 --> 00:22:39.047
  • RELATIONSHIP IN A WAY THAT ICAN'T EVEN RECALL THE PAIN OF
  • 00:22:39.047 --> 00:22:39.948
  • CAN'T EVEN RECALL THE PAIN OFTHE WORDS THAT WERE SPOKEN.
  • 00:22:39.948 --> 00:22:41.416
  • THE WORDS THAT WERE SPOKEN.AND IT'S...
  • 00:22:41.416 --> 00:22:43.952
  • AND IT'S...WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE THAT,
  • 00:22:43.952 --> 00:22:44.986
  • WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE THAT,IT'S...
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  • IT'S...- LISA: YEAH, THAT'S
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  • - LISA: YEAH, THAT'SWONDERFUL.
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  • WONDERFUL.- CECE: THAT'S GREAT.
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  • - CECE: THAT'S GREAT.- ELISABETH: THERE AREN'T
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  • - ELISABETH: THERE AREN'TWORDS BUT "THANK YOU."
  • 00:22:48.623 --> 00:22:49.658
  • WORDS BUT "THANK YOU."BECAUSE I HAD BEEN TRYING TO DO
  • 00:22:49.658 --> 00:22:50.959
  • BECAUSE I HAD BEEN TRYING TO DOTHAT ALL ON MY OWN FOR SO LONG.
  • 00:22:50.959 --> 00:22:53.895
  • THAT ALL ON MY OWN FOR SO LONG.AND IT DIDN'T WORK ON MY OWN.
  • 00:22:53.895 --> 00:22:55.130
  • AND IT DIDN'T WORK ON MY OWN.BUT, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, IT JUST
  • 00:22:55.130 --> 00:22:56.298
  • BUT, WHEN YOU SAY THAT, IT JUSTRINGS SO TRUE.
  • 00:22:56.298 --> 00:22:57.899
  • RINGS SO TRUE.BUT IT IS A DAILY SURRENDER TO
  • 00:22:57.899 --> 00:22:59.401
  • BUT IT IS A DAILY SURRENDER TOHIM.
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  • HIM.THANK YOU FOR THAT.
  • 00:23:00.402 --> 00:23:01.336
  • THANK YOU FOR THAT.- LISA: DO Y'ALL REMEMBER THIS
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  • - LISA: DO Y'ALL REMEMBER THISSTORY, UM, IN DAVID'S LIFE
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  • STORY, UM, IN DAVID'S LIFEWHERE-- WAS HIS NAME SHIMEI,
  • 00:23:05.674 --> 00:23:06.808
  • WHERE-- WAS HIS NAME SHIMEI,THE GUY WHO KEPT THROWING
  • 00:23:06.808 --> 00:23:07.609
  • THE GUY WHO KEPT THROWINGSTONES AT DAVID AS HE WAS
  • 00:23:07.609 --> 00:23:09.644
  • STONES AT DAVID AS HE WASWALKING ALONG?
  • 00:23:09.644 --> 00:23:10.245
  • WALKING ALONG?I THOUGHT OF THAT THE OTHER
  • 00:23:10.245 --> 00:23:10.946
  • I THOUGHT OF THAT THE OTHERDAY, 'CAUSE I SAW SOMETHING ON
  • 00:23:10.946 --> 00:23:11.446
  • DAY, 'CAUSE I SAW SOMETHING ONSOCIAL MEDIA.
  • 00:23:11.446 --> 00:23:12.948
  • SOCIAL MEDIA.AND I THOUGHT: MAN, WE ARE SO
  • 00:23:12.948 --> 00:23:14.883
  • AND I THOUGHT: MAN, WE ARE SOQUICK TO TURN AROUND AND WANNA
  • 00:23:14.883 --> 00:23:16.418
  • QUICK TO TURN AROUND AND WANNASHOOT THE STONE-THROWER WITH A
  • 00:23:16.418 --> 00:23:17.686
  • SHOOT THE STONE-THROWER WITH ABAZOOKA.
  • 00:23:17.686 --> 00:23:19.387
  • BAZOOKA.AND DAVID WAS LIKE: NO.
  • 00:23:19.387 --> 00:23:22.724
  • AND DAVID WAS LIKE: NO.YOU TRUST THE LORD WITH
  • 00:23:22.724 --> 00:23:23.458
  • YOU TRUST THE LORD WITHMY LIFE.
  • 00:23:23.458 --> 00:23:24.726
  • MY LIFE.DON'T...DON'T TO ANYTHING.
  • 00:23:24.726 --> 00:23:25.927
  • DON'T...DON'T TO ANYTHING.MY GUESS IS THERE HAS BEEN SOME
  • 00:23:25.927 --> 00:23:28.196
  • MY GUESS IS THERE HAS BEEN SOMEPEOPLE LISTENING TO US, TODAY,
  • 00:23:28.196 --> 00:23:29.598
  • PEOPLE LISTENING TO US, TODAY,WHO RIGHT NOW, THEY FEEL
  • 00:23:29.598 --> 00:23:31.266
  • WHO RIGHT NOW, THEY FEELLIKE THEIR HEARTS ARE ABOUT TO
  • 00:23:31.266 --> 00:23:32.834
  • LIKE THEIR HEARTS ARE ABOUT TOBREAK BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SO
  • 00:23:32.834 --> 00:23:35.337
  • BREAK BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SOOFFENDED AND THEY'VE WALKED IN
  • 00:23:35.337 --> 00:23:37.038
  • OFFENDED AND THEY'VE WALKED INTHAT PAIN FOR SO LONG, ASSUMING
  • 00:23:37.038 --> 00:23:38.440
  • THAT PAIN FOR SO LONG, ASSUMINGTHAT BECAUSE THEY WERE SO
  • 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:41.576
  • THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE SODEEPLY WOUNDING THAT MAYBE GOD
  • 00:23:41.576 --> 00:23:44.613
  • DEEPLY WOUNDING THAT MAYBE GODDOESN'T CARE FOR THEM.
  • 00:23:44.613 --> 00:23:45.247
  • DOESN'T CARE FOR THEM.AND SO, LET'S PRAY, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:23:45.247 --> 00:23:46.281
  • AND SO, LET'S PRAY, RIGHT NOW,I THOUGHT OF THAT PROMISE
  • 00:23:46.281 --> 00:23:47.616
  • I THOUGHT OF THAT PROMISEIN 1 PETER THAT SAYS
  • 00:23:47.616 --> 00:23:50.952
  • IN 1 PETER THAT SAYSWE CAN CAST ALL OUR CARES --
  • 00:23:50.952 --> 00:23:52.254
  • WE CAN CAST ALL OUR CARES --ALL THE PLACES WE'VE
  • 00:23:52.254 --> 00:23:53.722
  • ALL THE PLACES WE'VEBEEN WOUNDED -- ON GOD,
  • 00:23:53.722 --> 00:23:55.690
  • BEEN WOUNDED -- ON GOD,BECAUSE HE CARES FOR US.
  • 00:23:55.690 --> 00:23:58.460
  • BECAUSE HE CARES FOR US.SO, LORD JESUS, WE, UM...WE
  • 00:23:58.460 --> 00:23:59.794
  • SO, LORD JESUS, WE, UM...WEPRAY FOR OUR FRIENDS, OUR
  • 00:23:59.794 --> 00:24:00.929
  • PRAY FOR OUR FRIENDS, OURBROTHERS AND OUR SISTERS.
  • 00:24:00.929 --> 00:24:01.963
  • BROTHERS AND OUR SISTERS.WE PRAY FOR OURSELVES.
  • 00:24:01.963 --> 00:24:03.465
  • WE PRAY FOR OURSELVES.JESUS, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE
  • 00:24:03.465 --> 00:24:05.700
  • JESUS, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WECANNOT BE UNOFFENDABLE, APART
  • 00:24:05.700 --> 00:24:07.435
  • CANNOT BE UNOFFENDABLE, APARTFROM YOUR HOLY SPIRIT.
  • 00:24:07.435 --> 00:24:09.504
  • FROM YOUR HOLY SPIRIT.SO, WE PRAY FOR MORE OF YOUR
  • 00:24:09.504 --> 00:24:10.338
  • SO, WE PRAY FOR MORE OF YOURSPIRIT.
  • 00:24:10.338 --> 00:24:11.773
  • SPIRIT.WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD OPEN THE
  • 00:24:11.773 --> 00:24:13.174
  • WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD OPEN THEEYES OF OUR HEARTS AND...OUR
  • 00:24:13.174 --> 00:24:17.012
  • EYES OF OUR HEARTS AND...OURMINDS SO THAT WE WOULD SEE YOU
  • 00:24:17.012 --> 00:24:18.713
  • MINDS SO THAT WE WOULD SEE YOUMORE CLEARLY, SO THAT WE WOULD
  • 00:24:18.713 --> 00:24:20.916
  • MORE CLEARLY, SO THAT WE WOULDRECOGNIZE, UM, AFRESH THAT
  • 00:24:20.916 --> 00:24:22.617
  • RECOGNIZE, UM, AFRESH THATWHILE WE WERE STILL SINNERS,
  • 00:24:22.617 --> 00:24:23.752
  • WHILE WE WERE STILL SINNERS,YOU LOVED US.
  • 00:24:23.752 --> 00:24:25.820
  • YOU LOVED US.LORD, THANK YOU THAT WE CAN
  • 00:24:25.820 --> 00:24:27.622
  • LORD, THANK YOU THAT WE CANABSOLUTELY TRUST IN THE FACT
  • 00:24:27.622 --> 00:24:29.524
  • ABSOLUTELY TRUST IN THE FACTTHAT YOU...CARE FOR US.
  • 00:24:29.524 --> 00:24:33.228
  • THAT YOU...CARE FOR US.SO, FOR THE MEN AND THE WOMEN
  • 00:24:33.228 --> 00:24:35.697
  • SO, FOR THE MEN AND THE WOMENWHO...WHO HURT, RIGHT NOW,
  • 00:24:35.697 --> 00:24:37.566
  • WHO...WHO HURT, RIGHT NOW,BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CARED
  • 00:24:37.566 --> 00:24:39.501
  • BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CAREDFOR IN THE WAY YOU DESIGNED
  • 00:24:39.501 --> 00:24:41.503
  • FOR IN THE WAY YOU DESIGNEDTHEM TO BE CARED FOR, WHAT I
  • 00:24:41.503 --> 00:24:43.171
  • THEM TO BE CARED FOR, WHAT IPRAY: THROUGH YOUR SPIRIT, YOU
  • 00:24:43.171 --> 00:24:44.606
  • PRAY: THROUGH YOUR SPIRIT, YOUWOULD GIVE THEM THE GRACE TO
  • 00:24:44.606 --> 00:24:48.843
  • WOULD GIVE THEM THE GRACE TOLEAVE THOSE OFFENCES AT YOUR
  • 00:24:48.843 --> 00:24:51.046
  • LEAVE THOSE OFFENCES AT YOURCROSS AND TO TRUST THAT YOUR
  • 00:24:51.046 --> 00:24:52.614
  • CROSS AND TO TRUST THAT YOURGRACE, THAT YOUR UNCONDITIONAL
  • 00:24:52.614 --> 00:24:53.915
  • GRACE, THAT YOUR UNCONDITIONALLOVE IS ENOUGH TO NOT ONLY HEAL
  • 00:24:53.915 --> 00:24:55.684
  • LOVE IS ENOUGH TO NOT ONLY HEALTHEM, BUT TO GUARD THEIR HEART,
  • 00:24:55.684 --> 00:24:56.885
  • THEM, BUT TO GUARD THEIR HEART,IN THE FUTURE.
  • 00:24:56.885 --> 00:24:58.453
  • IN THE FUTURE.THANK YOU, JESUS -- THANK
  • 00:24:58.453 --> 00:24:59.921
  • THANK YOU, JESUS -- THANKYOU THAT YOU'RE NOT A FARAWAY
  • 00:24:59.921 --> 00:25:01.489
  • YOU THAT YOU'RE NOT A FARAWAYGOD, BUT THAT YOU'RE AN
  • 00:25:01.489 --> 00:25:05.694
  • GOD, BUT THAT YOU'RE ANUP-CLOSE, PERSONAL SAVIOR, AND
  • 00:25:05.694 --> 00:25:07.162
  • UP-CLOSE, PERSONAL SAVIOR, ANDTHAT YOU ARE FOR US.
  • 00:25:07.162 --> 00:25:08.430
  • THAT YOU ARE FOR US.YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
  • 00:25:08.430 --> 00:25:10.966
  • YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.AND YOU ALWAYS WILL BE WORKING
  • 00:25:10.966 --> 00:25:12.500
  • AND YOU ALWAYS WILL BE WORKINGTHINGS OUT FOR OUR GOOD AND
  • 00:25:12.500 --> 00:25:13.468
  • THINGS OUT FOR OUR GOOD ANDYOUR GLORY.
  • 00:25:13.468 --> 00:25:14.536
  • YOUR GLORY.WE TRUST YOU, JESUS.
  • 00:25:14.536 --> 00:25:15.537
  • WE TRUST YOU, JESUS.AMEN.
  • 00:25:15.537 --> 00:25:16.237
  • AMEN.- CECE: AMEN!
  • 00:25:16.237 --> 00:25:17.072
  • - CECE: AMEN!- JOYCE: AMEN!
  • 00:25:17.072 --> 00:25:17.839
  • - JOYCE: AMEN!- ELISABETH: AMEN.
  • 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:18.473
  • - ELISABETH: AMEN.- LAURIE: WHOOH!
  • 00:25:18.473 --> 00:25:22.777
  • - LAURIE: WHOOH!SO GOOD.
  • 00:25:22.777 --> 00:25:23.545
  • SO GOOD.CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA
  • 00:25:23.545 --> 00:25:24.279
  • CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIAAND LET US KNOW HOW OUR TEAM
  • 00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:27.749
  • AND LET US KNOW HOW OUR TEAMCAN PRAY FOR YOU.
  • 00:25:27.749 --> 00:25:29.351
  • CAN PRAY FOR YOU.UP NEXT ON "BETTER TOGETHER":
  • 00:25:29.351 --> 00:25:30.385
  • UP NEXT ON "BETTER TOGETHER":- JOYCE: IF I COULD CONTROL
  • 00:25:30.385 --> 00:25:32.754
  • - JOYCE: IF I COULD CONTROLSOMEBODY...I WOULD.
  • 00:25:32.754 --> 00:25:34.756
  • SOMEBODY...I WOULD.BUT, IF THEY WOULDN'T LET ME,
  • 00:25:34.756 --> 00:25:36.791
  • BUT, IF THEY WOULDN'T LET ME,AND IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP I
  • 00:25:36.791 --> 00:25:38.493
  • AND IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP IWANTED TO KEEP, THEN I WOULD
  • 00:25:38.493 --> 00:25:39.394
  • WANTED TO KEEP, THEN I WOULDQUICKLY BECOME THE PEOPLE
  • 00:25:39.394 --> 00:25:41.830
  • QUICKLY BECOME THE PEOPLEPLEASER.
  • 00:25:41.830 --> 00:25:42.497
  • PLEASER.- LAURIE: WATCH
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  • - LAURIE: WATCH"BETTER TOGETHER" WEEKDAYS
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  • "BETTER TOGETHER" WEEKDAYSAND TUESDAY NIGHTS,
  • 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:48.103