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September 13, 2019
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Walking in Freedom | Better Together

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  • - Don't let a diagnosis define you.
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  • Freedom is a choice.
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  • Come on, let's talk about it.
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  • (gentle music)
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  • - This week, we've been talking
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  • about anxiety and depression,
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  • and my mother-in-law struggled with depression really bad
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  • when my husband and his brother were young.
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  • And I was sitting here a while ago thinking,
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  • "Did I ever hear her talking
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  • "about friends reaching out to her?"
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  • And I can't remember that, I wish I could ask her,
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  • but she's gone now.
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  • But her depression was so bad
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  • that she just stayed in her room.
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  • And I think my husband was probably
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  • about 10 or 11 years old,
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  • they really kinda didn't know what was going on.
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  • But she thought that one day she would
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  • just go down to the water,
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  • down to the ocean here, and she said,
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  • "I'm just gonna start walking towards the water,
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  • "and I just won't stop,
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  • "and no one will care."
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  • (gasping) - Wow.
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  • - And she couldn't cry,
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  • she couldn't cry about it.
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  • She hadn't cried in months.
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  • And she just felt such despair.
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  • And one night, she had a dream.
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  • And she was on that beach,
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  • and she was walking down the beach.
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  • And she heard, and she saw a group
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  • of men over to her right side,
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  • and the water was over here.
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  • And she could hear them,
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  • and she got closer.
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  • And they started laughing,
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  • and she realized it was Jesus
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  • on the shores.
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  • And he was laughing with his head back and he turned
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  • and he looked right at her, laughing.
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  • - [All] Wow. - And she woke up laughing.
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  • And then she started crying.
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  • And out of that, God healed her.
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  • Completely from that dark pit and that depression.
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  • And that story has helped just thousands of people,
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  • and I just think that's so powerful,
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  • because out of our testimony, we could make our message,
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  • and I know these are just little quips,
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  • but our pain becomes our platform.
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  • And I think it's so important that when we share
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  • what God has brought us through,
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  • we teach the next generation what God has done.
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  • That is so powerful in our lives,
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  • and we keep saying that and we keep talking
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  • about what God has done.
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  • I think it just gives him more incentive
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  • just to do more in our lives.
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  • - You know what?
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  • Through every hard, horrible thing I live through,
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  • through the sickness, through whatever I had
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  • to go through and watch,
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  • that I couldn't put words to in the physical realm.
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  • I believed in how you said you were.
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  • - That's right.
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  • - And I think that's what we get
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  • to give God when we see him.
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  • It's my faith and belief in who you said you were.
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  • - I think I've said that to our church, too.
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  • I think it's offensive to God
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  • when we don't believe he can do it.
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  • Because he can do it all.
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  • And I think that trust factor, what that's saying is,
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  • "I trust you, even though right now
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  • "everything looks completely opposite
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  • "to what I believe is true,
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  • "but I'm gonna just stand and trust you."
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  • And I feel like there's just such a beauty to Jesus,
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  • where he's like, "She trusts me."
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  • And I get it, it's trust in the Lord with all your heart,
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  • lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways
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  • acknowledge it. - Acknowledge it, yes.
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  • - And he'll direct your paths.
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  • And I think, our head and our heart
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  • have two different brain memories.
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  • Our head says on thing, our heart says another thing.
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  • It's why I say, "Oh, my heart wanted it,
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  • "but my head was telling me not to."
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  • My head and my heart, and I think when we can catch
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  • our head and our heart to believe the same things,
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  • then we're unstoppable.
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  • Because it's our head and our heart,
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  • our heart's been wounded.
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  • Our heart's been hurt in places.
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  • I think a lot of people have fear
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  • because of the lack of trust,
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  • or because trust was broken.
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  • And so now we go, "Oh, I have fear to trust again."
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  • And I think when we can trust in the Lord, and go,
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  • "God, there is freedom to be found."
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  • Whom the Son sets free is free indeed.
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  • It's a certainty and it's a hope that
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  • we do not place our hope in things or circumstances,
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  • but it's in the hope, the anchor that does not disappoint.
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  • And it's not always easy.
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  • - No, and normally those deep, dark times are our platform.
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  • That's where we minister from.
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  • - It's important to share you story,
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  • because it's lessons learned.
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  • I mean honestly, when I think about well if I just kept
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  • what God has done for me or the freedom I found,
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  • or what I learned in the midst of the pit.
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  • But it's kept that to myself.
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  • (laughs)
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  • What? I think that's the power of testimony.
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  • There's such a power in testifying to our experience,
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  • but then in what God does through our story.
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  • One, because it's gonna help somebody else.
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  • It's gonna help somebody else find freedom.
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  • It's gonna help somebody else learn
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  • not to make the same mistake.
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  • It's gonna help somebody else.
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  • And then I think the power of testifying reminds myself.
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  • Oh, that's right.
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  • That's right, that's what God has done for me.
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  • There's such a power of testifying
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  • and a power of remembrance.
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  • Remembering what God has done.
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  • So I just remember just about a year a half ago now maybe,
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  • maybe it was two years ago,
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  • I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer.
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  • And the cancer I knew I was gonna okay from,
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  • it was gonna take my singing voice.
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  • And they said, "Your tumor's pressing on your vocal nerve,
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  • "and you're never gonna sing the same way again.
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  • "You're not gonna have the same vocal strength."
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  • And I just remembered that panic of,
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  • "Okay, this is what's been spoken.
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  • "This is what's been said, and you know what?
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  • "Maybe my voice won't be the same,
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  • "but it doesn't change who God is."
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  • If all of a sudden, my voice isn't the same,
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  • it doesn't mean that God's no longer good.
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  • It's funny because we came through that,
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  • and I'll never forget, because your husband Henry,
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  • you guys prayed over me before I went in for that surgery.
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  • And he actually, he probably doesn't even
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  • remember the word he gave me,
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  • but he gave me a word that said,
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  • "Just as that surgeon has to be precise,
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  • "they have to operate with precision,
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  • "your voice is gonna come back
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  • "with a precision it's never had."
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  • And what's amazing is it has.
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  • It didn't come back the same.
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  • It actually came back stronger.
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  • And people who've worked with my voice for two decades
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  • have said the exact word, they weren't there.
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  • They've said, "Your voice has a precision
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  • "it's never had before."
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  • That is an incredible blessing that he did.
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  • That's not the miracle.
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  • That's not the miracle was
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  • that my voice came back and it was stronger.
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  • The miracle is that before the surgery ever happened,
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  • before the surgery took place
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  • and I knew what my outcome was gonna be,
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  • God brought my heart to the place to say,
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  • "My outcome does not determine your goodness.
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  • "My outcome doesn't determine who you are."
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  • That I can say with assurance, "I belive who you are,
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  • "I know you're good, I know you're kind,
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  • "I know you're working all things together for my good.
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  • "I know you're developing in me perseverance,
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  • "and long-suffering and character.
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  • "I believe those things about you."
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  • That was the miracle.
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  • - Yeah. - Yeah.
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  • - And I can say, "God, I know that you are who you are,
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  • "and that my outcome, good, bad, or otherwise,
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  • "doesn't determine how my God is."
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  • - I think about a moment over 10 years ago.
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  • Almost 15 years ago actually.
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  • When I was really depressed,
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  • I was really physically sick, really emotionally sick.
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  • And I was very heavily medicated,
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  • and I begged my mom to take me
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  • to a conference for young girls called the Revolve Tour.
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  • And so she took me to this conference,
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  • and I got to go two years in a row.
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  • And that conference was very pivotal
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  • in me reigniting my relationship with Christ.
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  • I've been a Christian since I was seven years old,
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  • but the Revolve Tour was a huge part of my testimony
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  • as far as just reconnecting with God.
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  • And one of the speakers was Natalie Grant.
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  • And that was the first time that I ever heard her speak,
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  • I had listened to her music growing up.
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  • But I remember she stood there talking about her struggles
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  • and different things that she went through.
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  • And I just sat there in awe that this singer
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  • that I loved to listen to sing,
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  • that I could sit there and listen
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  • to things that she was going through in life.
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  • Things that she was overwhelmed about in her life.
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  • I was like, "How is she going through anything?"
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  • But her story really changed my life,
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  • and I can't help but
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  • just be humbled to be a part of this,
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  • but also to recognize that
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  • that's how God uses each of our stories.
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  • - That dark place that we want to go to is,
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  • "Wait a second, I'm going here, and he's coming with me.
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  • "But he is who he is, and how I feel
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  • "doesn't determine who he is."
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  • - That the miracle is what he does inside of you,
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  • inside of my heart.
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  • - Whatever the outcome is, I love that.
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  • 'Cause you said that.
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  • It says, "I know you're good regardless of the outcome."
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  • I think the outcome hold your own story.
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  • You did all of this, you give, you take away.
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  • - [All] Blessed in the name of the Lord.
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  • - That's where the freedom is
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  • because I've met so many people that go,
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  • "But God didn't do it, so he mustn't be real."
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  • Or, "He mustn't be good," or, "That healing will never
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  • "tap and say he doesn't really heal."
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  • No, regardless whether he never gave us another thing
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  • for the rest of our life,
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  • our salvation is the greatest gift he's given us.
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  • More than enough.
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  • - He doesn't owe us anything.
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  • - He doesn't owe us anything, and that's the joy I live in.
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  • I go, "God just save me."
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  • So whether my whole family gets wiped out tomorrow,
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  • whether I'm left destitute and poor.
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  • Yep, is it gonna be hard?
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  • Absolutely, is he still good?
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  • Absolutely, I think that's the holy grail
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  • that everyone's living, waiting for.
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  • - It's fascinating to me hearing you talk about this,
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  • because knowing what you went through,
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  • and now seeing how you minister.
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  • That song helped me with the healer, more than the healing.
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  • When I think of you walking through that,
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  • you were able to minister that message
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  • in a way that you would not have been able to
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  • had you not walked through this.
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  • So I love knowing that the very area
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  • that we struggle with the most,
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  • is the area of our greatest effectiveness.
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  • Why I have empathy for people who've walked with depression
  • 00:11:22.290 --> 00:11:26.030
  • is 'cause I have been there and done that,
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  • and I'm going through it now.
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  • But then I'm able to speak out and declare things
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  • over people that I could not have known
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  • before I walked through it.
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  • It always amazes me when people say
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  • that they see so much joy in me,
  • 00:11:37.090 --> 00:11:40.120
  • because the fact that I struggle with depression,
  • 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.150
  • I think to me shows that the enemy is often going
  • 00:11:43.150 --> 00:11:46.140
  • to attack the very area that God has called us
  • 00:11:46.140 --> 00:11:49.170
  • to walk in ministry through.
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  • It's not something that I want to claim
  • 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:54.220
  • that I will always have this battle of depression,
  • 00:11:54.220 --> 00:11:57.080
  • but I think something about it reminds me of Paul's thorn.
  • 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:00.050
  • It may be something that I have to
  • 00:12:00.050 --> 00:12:02.140
  • just take one step in front of the other in victory.
  • 00:12:02.140 --> 00:12:04.150
  • But I love that it's always going
  • 00:12:04.150 --> 00:12:06.080
  • to have me clinging to the cross,
  • 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:08.030
  • because I can't do this thing by myself.
  • 00:12:08.030 --> 00:12:10.230
  • - My biggest takeaway from today's conversation is
  • 00:12:10.230 --> 00:12:13.080
  • just the importance of support and the importance of just
  • 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:18.080
  • going through these battles and these struggles together.
  • 00:12:19.210 --> 00:12:21.150
  • Even as we're sitting there and we could be getting
  • 00:12:21.150 --> 00:12:24.230
  • so vulnerable with each other,
  • 00:12:24.230 --> 00:12:26.060
  • and being so open and honest with each other.
  • 00:12:26.060 --> 00:12:28.160
  • It just further puts emphasis on how beautiful it is
  • 00:12:28.160 --> 00:12:32.240
  • when we could come together as sisters in Christ
  • 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.290
  • and support each other and love one each other.
  • 00:12:35.290 --> 00:12:37.290
  • And be honest through the difficult stuff,
  • 00:12:37.290 --> 00:12:39.210
  • but then also rejoice with each other
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  • as we see what God is doing.
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  • - [Announcer] If you need some friends to lift you up,
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  • then you just found them right here.
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  • - [Alex] Connect with us on social media,
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  • and let us know how we can pray for you.
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  • I remember when I was going through that struggle
  • 00:12:57.180 --> 00:12:59.180
  • of my own life, and I remember God saying,
  • 00:12:59.180 --> 00:13:01.270
  • "You can live like this because it's your choice,
  • 00:13:01.270 --> 00:13:04.130
  • "or I can really heal the depths."
  • 00:13:04.130 --> 00:13:07.010
  • As my issue was I had unforgiveness,
  • 00:13:07.010 --> 00:13:09.070
  • deep, buried in my heart.
  • 00:13:09.070 --> 00:13:11.070
  • And when I got rid of that unforgiveness
  • 00:13:11.070 --> 00:13:13.150
  • and I repented for that,
  • 00:13:13.150 --> 00:13:15.000
  • there was a freedom that then came and I didn't have to do
  • 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:17.200
  • the outworking of what my mind was telling me to do.
  • 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:20.210
  • Now, when I preach about having true freedom.
  • 00:13:20.210 --> 00:13:23.090
  • There is a greater authority because you've been there,
  • 00:13:23.090 --> 00:13:27.070
  • and then you've allowed God to come in and go,
  • 00:13:27.070 --> 00:13:30.010
  • "Actually, sweetie, the issue wasn't being a size zero.
  • 00:13:30.010 --> 00:13:32.200
  • "The issue was the unforgiveness in your heart.
  • 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.090
  • "The issue is that you were rejected."
  • 00:13:35.090 --> 00:13:36.230
  • - The unforgiveness in your heart.
  • 00:13:36.230 --> 00:13:37.220
  • - In your heart.
  • 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:39.020
  • (laughing)
  • 00:13:39.020 --> 00:13:40.080
  • - And you just need to let it go.
  • 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.090
  • And it was all on me, it had nothing to do with it.
  • 00:13:42.090 --> 00:13:46.120
  • I kept saying, "God, take it from me.
  • 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.090
  • "God, will you heal me?
  • 00:13:48.090 --> 00:13:50.040
  • "Because you've got the power to be healed right now.
  • 00:13:50.040 --> 00:13:52.030
  • "The gift." - Yes.
  • 00:13:52.030 --> 00:13:53.220
  • When I forget that I'm, not here, here.
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  • That outworking, I tell you.
  • 00:13:57.090 --> 00:13:59.000
  • And you know what?
  • 00:13:59.000 --> 00:13:59.260
  • I had to renew patterns.
  • 00:13:59.260 --> 00:14:01.150
  • It wasn't like magic. - Right.
  • 00:14:01.150 --> 00:14:03.140
  • - Of, "Oh, I'm healed."
  • 00:14:03.140 --> 00:14:05.000
  • Now God and was like, "Okay, I need you
  • 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.250
  • "to go put new patterns."
  • 00:14:06.250 --> 00:14:08.160
  • So what did I have to do?
  • 00:14:08.160 --> 00:14:10.070
  • The way to be, don't be conformed
  • 00:14:10.070 --> 00:14:11.140
  • to the patterns of this world,
  • 00:14:11.140 --> 00:14:12.280
  • but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
  • 00:14:12.280 --> 00:14:14.200
  • I had to renew my mind. - Yeah.
  • 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.140
  • - That's how I used to do things.
  • 00:14:16.140 --> 00:14:18.060
  • Now I choose to do things this way,
  • 00:14:18.060 --> 00:14:20.010
  • because I'm in a new mindset, so.
  • 00:14:20.010 --> 00:14:21.240
  • - And the truth is so then our greatest pain
  • 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:25.120
  • or greatest hardship can be become our greatest
  • 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.050
  • ministry, testimony, strength. - Absolutely.
  • 00:14:28.050 --> 00:14:31.120
  • - And I think that the power of testimony,
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  • when I speak about it, it's sometimes hard to speak
  • 00:14:34.150 --> 00:14:37.140
  • about what you face because it's very exposing.
  • 00:14:37.140 --> 00:14:41.030
  • That's actually a choice that we have.
  • 00:14:41.030 --> 00:14:43.080
  • That we can either allow our pain to keep us stuck,
  • 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:48.080
  • or we can allow it do develop in us
  • 00:14:51.260 --> 00:14:54.290
  • the character and the mind of Christ.
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  • And that really is the goal, right?
  • 00:14:57.190 --> 00:15:01.030
  • The goal is that he is constantly developing in us
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  • through the highs, through the lows,
  • 00:15:05.290 --> 00:15:07.170
  • through the wins and the losses.
  • 00:15:07.170 --> 00:15:09.120
  • Through the successes and the failures,
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  • that he's actually developing his mind and his character
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  • in our life.
  • 00:15:15.020 --> 00:15:16.140
  • And then when he's developing that character in us,
  • 00:15:16.140 --> 00:15:18.210
  • then that's where our greatest ministry will come from,
  • 00:15:18.210 --> 00:15:21.290
  • like, "Okay, he's done this in me.
  • 00:15:21.290 --> 00:15:23.220
  • "He's taught this to me, and I'm gonna allow that now
  • 00:15:23.220 --> 00:15:27.080
  • "to become my testimony.
  • 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:28.210
  • "What was my test has become my testimony,
  • 00:15:28.210 --> 00:15:31.210
  • "because I'm testifying to who he is.
  • 00:15:31.210 --> 00:15:33.270
  • "I'm testifying to his faithfulness and his goodness
  • 00:15:33.270 --> 00:15:37.040
  • "in the midst of my storm."
  • 00:15:37.040 --> 00:15:39.290
  • "in the midst of my storm."
  • 00:15:40.030 --> 00:15:40.100
  • And it's hard to be vulnerable,
  • 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.290
  • but once you get over the hurdle of being vulnerable,
  • 00:15:41.290 --> 00:15:44.090
  • and you allow yourself to be vulnerable you realize,
  • 00:15:44.090 --> 00:15:47.030
  • "Wait, this isn't just helping everybody else,
  • 00:15:47.030 --> 00:15:49.130
  • "this is helping me."
  • 00:15:49.130 --> 00:15:51.010
  • So I'm testifying and it strengthens other people's faith,
  • 00:15:51.010 --> 00:15:54.110
  • but it's also constantly reminding me
  • 00:15:54.110 --> 00:15:56.220
  • of who God is and what he's done, and it's so powerful.
  • 00:15:56.220 --> 00:16:01.160
  • - I remember my first real job on the road.
  • 00:16:01.160 --> 00:16:05.080
  • It was the Revolve Tour, which was where I first saw you,
  • 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.110
  • and we met at Revolve as well.
  • 00:16:08.110 --> 00:16:10.060
  • And my talk was about Tourette Syndrome,
  • 00:16:10.060 --> 00:16:13.030
  • and overcoming difficulties in life and everything.
  • 00:16:13.030 --> 00:16:16.110
  • And so one of my tics is
  • 00:16:16.110 --> 00:16:18.110
  • (gasps)
  • 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:19.270
  • Like that, but sometimes it's so subtle that it pretty much
  • 00:16:19.270 --> 00:16:22.210
  • just looks like I have a very severe stutter.
  • 00:16:22.210 --> 00:16:24.230
  • And so I'm on this platform, I'm 19 years old.
  • 00:16:24.230 --> 00:16:28.090
  • I'm like, "Oh, my goodness, I get to preach the word of God
  • 00:16:28.090 --> 00:16:30.140
  • "to thousands of girls,
  • 00:16:30.140 --> 00:16:32.050
  • "and talk about how God has just transformed my life."
  • 00:16:32.050 --> 00:16:34.290
  • It's the third or fourth weekend, and so I just,
  • 00:16:34.290 --> 00:16:38.070
  • probably feeling a little too confident maybe,
  • 00:16:38.070 --> 00:16:40.180
  • but I was just up there, ready to just go for it.
  • 00:16:40.180 --> 00:16:43.250
  • And about five minutes in, that tic showed up.
  • 00:16:43.250 --> 00:16:46.180
  • And I literally, it wasn't audible at that time,
  • 00:16:46.180 --> 00:16:49.190
  • so it was about 60 seconds of near silence
  • 00:16:49.190 --> 00:16:53.230
  • in front of thousands of people.
  • 00:16:53.230 --> 00:16:55.200
  • And I was standing up there, just like.
  • 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.000
  • And trying so hard.
  • 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:59.230
  • I can oftentimes fight through my tics,
  • 00:16:59.230 --> 00:17:03.180
  • but I was having a really difficult time that I couldn't,
  • 00:17:03.180 --> 00:17:05.200
  • and it took about a minute for me
  • 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:07.040
  • to finally kind of get my wheels back and finish my talk.
  • 00:17:07.040 --> 00:17:09.170
  • And after I came off the platform,
  • 00:17:09.170 --> 00:17:12.250
  • I just cried in my moms arms.
  • 00:17:12.250 --> 00:17:14.280
  • Jenna was there and some of the other speakers,
  • 00:17:16.040 --> 00:17:18.280
  • and they just held me as I sat there and I wept.
  • 00:17:18.280 --> 00:17:21.110
  • And the first thing I said, I looked at them and I was like,
  • 00:17:21.110 --> 00:17:24.170
  • I said, "I messed up."
  • 00:17:24.170 --> 00:17:26.000
  • I said, "I literally wasn't able to tell people
  • 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.070
  • "about the joy of the Lord because I was so broken."
  • 00:17:30.070 --> 00:17:32.130
  • And my mom looked at me and she said,
  • 00:17:32.130 --> 00:17:35.130
  • "What you don't realize is this will be the most powerful
  • 00:17:35.130 --> 00:17:38.080
  • "time that you've ever preached the word of God,
  • 00:17:38.080 --> 00:17:40.230
  • "because you were able to show
  • 00:17:40.230 --> 00:17:42.180
  • "that his strength is made perfect."
  • 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:44.250
  • - You finished strong. - Yeah.
  • 00:17:44.250 --> 00:17:46.090
  • (laughing)
  • 00:17:46.090 --> 00:17:47.150
  • - We don't have to have it all together.
  • 00:17:47.150 --> 00:17:48.110
  • (laughs)
  • 00:17:48.110 --> 00:17:49.180
  • And I think that's the beauty of who Jesus is.
  • 00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:51.270
  • People often ask me if I'm nervous
  • 00:17:51.270 --> 00:17:54.190
  • before I go on stage when I sing.
  • 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:56.140
  • As far as my job, no, because I love singing
  • 00:17:56.140 --> 00:17:59.230
  • and I love talking and I get to run my mouth
  • 00:17:59.230 --> 00:18:01.240
  • and sing songs for an hour and a half, it's my dream job.
  • 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:05.010
  • But I am always walking onstage going,
  • 00:18:05.010 --> 00:18:08.190
  • "Lord, if you don't show up."
  • 00:18:08.190 --> 00:18:10.170
  • Because I can't do it by myself.
  • 00:18:10.170 --> 00:18:13.110
  • - This question is from Facebook.
  • 00:18:13.110 --> 00:18:15.150
  • Victoria asks, "Any suggestions on steps controlling
  • 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:18.250
  • "your thoughts that may lead to anxiety?"
  • 00:18:18.250 --> 00:18:21.240
  • - Lots of steps I think.
  • 00:18:23.020 --> 00:18:24.130
  • I think sometimes you do have to settle yourself,
  • 00:18:24.130 --> 00:18:26.270
  • and you've gotta say, "Okay, why am I feeling anxious?
  • 00:18:26.270 --> 00:18:30.020
  • "What about this am I not putting into God's hands?"
  • 00:18:30.020 --> 00:18:33.160
  • And the Bible says to cast your cares on him,
  • 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:36.100
  • 'cause he cares for you.
  • 00:18:36.100 --> 00:18:37.260
  • And I think sometimes, when we can feel that anxiety rising.
  • 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:41.090
  • I don't know if it's anxiety for me,
  • 00:18:41.090 --> 00:18:43.190
  • but I know when I start to get overwhelmed,
  • 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.250
  • I can feel it, it feels like almost a bit of suffocation.
  • 00:18:45.250 --> 00:18:48.100
  • I just stop and I pause, and I go,
  • 00:18:48.100 --> 00:18:50.210
  • "All right, what's making me feel overwhelmed?
  • 00:18:50.210 --> 00:18:53.180
  • "What does God say about it?
  • 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:56.200
  • "Can I just let it go?"
  • 00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:57.280
  • Sometimes I think we think we have
  • 00:18:57.280 --> 00:19:00.020
  • to fix everything, do everything.
  • 00:19:00.020 --> 00:19:01.060
  • "Can I just be in the moment?"
  • 00:19:01.060 --> 00:19:03.040
  • And then pray, say, "Father, just settle my heart.
  • 00:19:03.040 --> 00:19:05.280
  • "Settle my thoughts."
  • 00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:07.010
  • And just get some Scripture,
  • 00:19:07.010 --> 00:19:09.020
  • the very thing that maybe you're anxious about,
  • 00:19:09.020 --> 00:19:11.140
  • just sit and go, I would even google it,
  • 00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:14.020
  • if you don't know any Scripture.
  • 00:19:14.020 --> 00:19:15.180
  • And just say, "Okay, google thoughts on fear of flying."
  • 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:19.030
  • Or google for prayers on that.
  • 00:19:19.030 --> 00:19:21.010
  • And sometimes I think you just have to center your thoughts.
  • 00:19:21.010 --> 00:19:23.120
  • Ask the Lord where it's coming from.
  • 00:19:23.120 --> 00:19:26.010
  • And get the truth of God's words to combat that line.
  • 00:19:26.010 --> 00:19:28.240
  • - You hear the word trigger a lot.
  • 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:31.240
  • Let it trigger a Scripture.
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  • Let it trigger something that God says,
  • 00:19:33.130 --> 00:19:35.290
  • and take the trigger off of, "Uh-oh, that's a trigger,
  • 00:19:35.290 --> 00:19:38.180
  • "I'm gonna go get maybe a paradigm shift."
  • 00:19:38.180 --> 00:19:41.170
  • If that's a trigger too, "Okay, all right, God's got this."
  • 00:19:41.170 --> 00:19:44.250
  • And start seeing who God is and magnify the Lord.
  • 00:19:44.250 --> 00:19:49.190
  • - [Laurie] You can stream Better Together episodes
  • 00:19:51.260 --> 00:19:53.290
  • on the go.
  • 00:19:53.290 --> 00:19:55.070
  • - [Natalie] Yes, so download the TBN app
  • 00:19:55.070 --> 00:19:56.220
  • to watch our latest conversations.
  • 00:19:56.220 --> 00:19:58.200
  • - But in our brokenness showing, our broken cracks,
  • 00:20:02.050 --> 00:20:06.140
  • that's where he shines.
  • 00:20:06.140 --> 00:20:08.090
  • He actually shines through brokenness,
  • 00:20:08.090 --> 00:20:11.130
  • that the point is not to just wallow in
  • 00:20:11.130 --> 00:20:13.180
  • our brokenness. - Right, exactly.
  • 00:20:13.180 --> 00:20:14.250
  • - But to actually show our brokenness
  • 00:20:14.250 --> 00:20:16.230
  • because he shines through our brokenness.
  • 00:20:16.230 --> 00:20:19.160
  • And there's a psalm, it's in the message version,
  • 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.100
  • but it's says, "But he caught me.
  • 00:20:22.100 --> 00:20:24.070
  • "He reached all the way from sky to sea,
  • 00:20:24.070 --> 00:20:26.270
  • "he pulled me out of that enemy chaos.
  • 00:20:26.270 --> 00:20:29.290
  • "The void in which I was drowning."
  • 00:20:29.290 --> 00:20:31.240
  • "They hit me when I was down, but God stood by me.
  • 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:35.040
  • "He stood me up on a wide open field.
  • 00:20:35.040 --> 00:20:37.230
  • "I stood there, saved, surprised to be loved."
  • 00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:41.070
  • This is the best part.
  • 00:20:41.070 --> 00:20:42.200
  • "God made my life complete when I placed all
  • 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:46.120
  • "of my pieces before him, those broken pieces."
  • 00:20:46.120 --> 00:20:50.020
  • That to me is, that's where he does his best work.
  • 00:20:50.020 --> 00:20:52.280
  • - He brings the wholeness.
  • 00:20:52.280 --> 00:20:54.150
  • - Yeah, he takes them all and he makes a work of art
  • 00:20:54.150 --> 00:20:57.100
  • that's so beautiful.
  • 00:20:57.100 --> 00:20:58.270
  • - I love knowing that I don't have to have it all together.
  • 00:20:58.270 --> 00:21:01.160
  • (everyone talking at once)
  • 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:05.040
  • There's something so beautiful
  • 00:21:06.260 --> 00:21:08.190
  • about being through the thick of it.
  • 00:21:08.190 --> 00:21:09.260
  • - [All] Yeah. (gentle music)
  • 00:21:09.260 --> 00:21:11.020
  • - My beautiful friend Mandisa has really
  • 00:21:11.020 --> 00:21:12.250
  • been walking the road through depression and anxiety.
  • 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:17.180
  • But when I look at her, I look at how far she's come.
  • 00:21:19.060 --> 00:21:23.280
  • I don't look at the position that she's in.
  • 00:21:23.280 --> 00:21:26.000
  • Yep, there's some struggles,
  • 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:27.120
  • and there's still some hurdles that she's gonna have
  • 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:29.210
  • to get through, but the joy that exudes out of her,
  • 00:21:29.210 --> 00:21:33.100
  • I actually think that is who Jesus says she is.
  • 00:21:33.100 --> 00:21:36.260
  • When you look at her face, she radiates the joy of the Lord.
  • 00:21:36.260 --> 00:21:41.010
  • And isn't it amazing that the Bible says
  • 00:21:41.010 --> 00:21:43.050
  • that joy of the Lord is our strength?
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  • And that's what I believe is actually keeping her buoyant.
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  • It's keeping her here, it brought her here.
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  • And I just love the fact that even in her darkest hour,
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  • even though she may be walking
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  • through the valley of the shadow of death,
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  • that she's held onto a truth
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  • that God is gonna see her through.
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  • Every single one of us,
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  • whatever our shortcomings are in ourselves,
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  • God fills that up and no one sees.
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  • They only see the Jesus.
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  • And so you've just exuded joy, absolute, unspeakable joy.
  • 00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:16.250
  • - And last night you said,
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  • "I know, but I gotta figure out how it is
  • 00:22:18.030 --> 00:22:19.160
  • "that I'm exuding something that I'm not feeling."
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  • Maybe you need to start realizing,
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  • "Well, you know what?
  • 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.050
  • "I'm gonna forget about how I'm feeling,
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  • "and I'm gonna realize that what I'm exuding is Christ."
  • 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:30.010
  • - That's it. - Christ in me.
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  • "This other stuff isn't who I really am,
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  • "but what I'm exuding is who I am, 'cause that is Christ."
  • 00:22:35.040 --> 00:22:38.080
  • - I feel what he is saying, to me is,
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  • I hear a lot of, "You exhibit such joy."
  • 00:22:41.060 --> 00:22:44.110
  • That is I feel like because it is something
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  • that he has gifted me with.
  • 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:48.140
  • That's of course gonna be the error that the enemy
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  • is going to try to make every single time.
  • 00:22:50.090 --> 00:22:52.140
  • So for me, it's recognizing the area
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  • where I feel the darkest,
  • 00:22:54.180 --> 00:22:56.040
  • that's probably the area where I'm called to minister.
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  • - That's your full authority.
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  • - And to be okay with that.
  • 00:22:59.230 --> 00:23:01.060
  • - Absolutely, and you're doing it.
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  • - I love you all.
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  • (shouting) (laughing)
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  • - And we are witnesses of the goodness of God.
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  • And we live in his fullness in everything
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  • that he died for us for.
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  • And we are witnesses.
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  • But with all my heart,
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  • I believe that freedom is for you today.
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  • We have had so many wonderful things this week happen.
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  • And I'm believing God
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  • for great testimonies this week from you,
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  • so we want you to write us, we want you to tell us,
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  • we want you to join us on social media.
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  • Tell us what God's doing in and through you.
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  • I believe the cross paid it all for us
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  • so that we can be witnesses of the goodness of God.
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  • So I pray that your faith is strong today.
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  • I pray that you have a tenacity in your spirit
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  • to see things go right and to see things the way God does.
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  • I pray that your faith is enlarged,
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  • your strong in the Lord and in the power of his might.
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  • And I pray that he just shows himself
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  • big and real in your life today.
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  • God bless you.
  • 00:24:17.020 --> 00:24:18.130
  • - If you or a loved one are struggling
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  • with anxiety or depression, you are not alone.
  • 00:24:20.210 --> 00:24:23.210
  • - You can call the number on your screen
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  • to talk to a prayer partner.
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  • We're here for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
  • 00:24:26.280 --> 00:24:30.010
  • We love you and most importantly, God loves you.
  • 00:24:30.010 --> 00:24:32.160
  • - And Christy writes, "I struggle with anxiety,
  • 00:24:35.090 --> 00:24:37.260
  • "which has been made worse
  • 00:24:39.050 --> 00:24:40.150
  • "after I survived a moderate brain injury.
  • 00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:43.130
  • "I just to talk and pray my way out
  • 00:24:43.130 --> 00:24:44.270
  • "of anxiety and panic attacks,
  • 00:24:44.270 --> 00:24:46.180
  • "but now it seems I can't, I hate this.
  • 00:24:46.180 --> 00:24:49.150
  • "I know God is my healer, but I also stay clear
  • 00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:51.250
  • "of the things that can trigger a panic attack.
  • 00:24:51.250 --> 00:24:54.020
  • "So how do you deal with anxiety and panic
  • 00:24:54.020 --> 00:24:55.290
  • "when it's due to a physical issue?
  • 00:24:55.290 --> 00:24:57.270
  • "What's the best way to not feel weak or to feel faithless?
  • 00:24:57.270 --> 00:25:01.270
  • "How do you get those you love to understand?"
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  • Christy, I'm so sorry of what you've gone through.
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  • I don't know exactly what that's like
  • 00:25:09.280 --> 00:25:12.220
  • to have experienced a brain injury.
  • 00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:15.030
  • Something of that caliber,
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  • and I'm so sorry that you've had to deal with that.
  • 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:19.040
  • I was diagnosed with anxiety when I was 11 years old,
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  • and so a lot of times when I'm encouraged
  • 00:25:21.250 --> 00:25:24.100
  • to pray about it or to get over it, I'm like,
  • 00:25:24.100 --> 00:25:26.240
  • "Well, I don't know how possible that is."
  • 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:31.080
  • But there's something in here
  • 00:25:31.080 --> 00:25:32.130
  • that you said that really stuck out to me,
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  • and I got this from my counselor.
  • 00:25:34.090 --> 00:25:36.070
  • So it says on here, that you said you used to talk
  • 00:25:36.070 --> 00:25:39.100
  • and pray your way out of it, but now it seems you can't.
  • 00:25:39.100 --> 00:25:42.080
  • So I'm not gonna take this time
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  • to focus on what you can't do.
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  • I want to encourage you every time you feel
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  • or every time you are stuck,
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  • to ask yourself the question, "What can I do?"
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  • What are you capable of doing in that moment?
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  • And your answer may not be the same
  • 00:25:56.130 --> 00:25:58.160
  • as everybody else's answer, and that's okay,
  • 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:00.230
  • 'cause we're not talking to everybody else.
  • 00:26:00.230 --> 00:26:02.020
  • This is for Christy from Instagram.
  • 00:26:02.020 --> 00:26:04.050
  • And so when I have those moments,
  • 00:26:04.050 --> 00:26:06.100
  • my good day might look like me just getting up
  • 00:26:06.100 --> 00:26:10.190
  • and walking to the kitchen
  • 00:26:10.190 --> 00:26:12.050
  • and being able to make myself lunch.
  • 00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:14.080
  • And to some people, they might say,
  • 00:26:14.080 --> 00:26:15.250
  • "That's not that big of a deal."
  • 00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:17.180
  • But that's my answer to the question, "What can I do?"
  • 00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:20.070
  • I got up, I got out of bed,
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  • I made a choice to take a step,
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  • even though it might look like a baby step to some people.
  • 00:26:24.250 --> 00:26:27.160
  • But I made a choice to do what I can do
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  • to overcome this in the way that I can.
  • 00:26:30.220 --> 00:26:34.090
  • - [Laurie] Here's what's coming up next on Better Together.
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  • - After my marital status changed, is what I call it,
  • 00:26:37.290 --> 00:26:41.110
  • I went through a period of I'd never.
  • 00:26:42.150 --> 00:26:44.210
  • I don't want to ever even want to want to be married again.
  • 00:26:44.210 --> 00:26:49.100
  • So I remember going through that,
  • 00:26:49.100 --> 00:26:50.280
  • and not necessarily I'm hating men.
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  • - [Laurie] Watch Better Together right here on TBN.
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