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September 15, 2020
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Former Acting DNI: Richard Grenell

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  • - Former Acting DirectorNational Intelligence,
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  • Rick Grenell joins ustoday on Jay Sekulow Live.
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  • Folks we are very excited toannounce that Rick Grenell,
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  • former Acting Directorof National Intelligence
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  • is joining the American Centerfor Law & Justice, ACLJ,
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  • as special advisor for nationalsecurity and foreign policy.
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  • - Let me just say this, youknow people by the actions
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  • that they take, andI have seen Rick
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  • and I will tell you on the...
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  • Andrew Brunson is theperfect example for me
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  • of where Rick's heartis as it relates
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  • to helping people in need.
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  • This was , of course, ourcase where he was in jail for
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  • two and a half years and 2:30in the morning there was our
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  • ambassador Germanywith American flag.
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  • It's indelibly marked in myhead but also in my heart.
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  • I wanna tell you something,
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  • we're looking forward to havingRick as part of our team.
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  • He's gonna add a lot ofinformation for our audience
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  • in the coming months and we'rereally excited about that,
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  • especially as these issues aregonna be front and center.
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  • Rick its a thrill tohave you with us.
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  • We're so glad you're joining us.
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  • - Yeah, thank you.
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  • I just have onerule for you guys,
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  • which is you haveto call me Rick.
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  • - Well, we will call you Rick,
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  • but I will tell youthis, I do this...
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  • This kind of called a habit.
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  • It's just a habit, butwe will call you Rick
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  • but we are alwaysgonna acknowledge theservice you've given
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  • the country and theappropriate titles you have,
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  • but we'll call you Rick and Iknow our audience will be glad
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  • to know that as well.
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  • Let me say this, I wannaplay for you something that
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  • you say that I havesome familiarity with,to say the least.
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  • But I wanna get yourcomments on this.
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  • Let's go ahead and roll this.
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  • This involves thecollusion narrative.
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  • - As Acting Director ofNational Intelligence
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  • I saw the democrat's entirecase for Russian collusion,
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  • and what I saw mademe sick to my stomach.
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  • The Obama-Biden Administrationsecretly launched
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  • a surveillance operationon the Trump campaign,
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  • and silenced the many braveintelligence officials
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  • who spoke up against it.
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  • They presented bogusinformation as facts.
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  • They lied to judges thenthey classified anything
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  • that undermine their case.
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  • - You know, Rick, I...
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  • As you know I lived that casefor three and a half years
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  • representing the President,
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  • and still representthe President,
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  • but in that matter,of course, I lived it.
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  • I found that it wasunbelievable what we uncovered,
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  • but that the government...
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  • Those in the government,not everybody, of course,
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  • but those in the governmentwere actually doing this,
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  • and you served the coursewhen you were Acting DNI,
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  • you saw it firsthand.
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  • What was going on here?
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  • What was the takeoutattempt here?
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  • - When the democrats saythere was some smoke,
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  • there was some suspicionso we had to look into this
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  • and see if the Trump campaignwas talking to Russia.
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  • I'm all for our governmentbeing thorough, right?
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  • So I take them at theirword that in the beginning
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  • that they had some suspicions.
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  • But, Jay, I got to tell youwhen you look at the evidence
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  • quickly there were careerforeign service officers
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  • who said this is baloney,this is not true,
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  • the Russians areplaying propaganda.
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  • The warnings from insidethe intelligence community
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  • were real and prominent,
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  • and yet we had leaders
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  • of DOJ and the FBI
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  • and CIA that werewilling to push away
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  • and classify those warnings
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  • and silence those warningsbecause they had an agenda.
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  • They weaponized government
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  • and they overruledthose who weren't.
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  • You just got tolook at two things,
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  • look at all of the declassifiedfootnotes from the reports
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  • which talk about the warnings,which talk about individuals.
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  • There's also reports thatstill need to come out
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  • that highlight individualscareer officials who gave
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  • early warnings and who weresilenced and pushed away.
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  • Those reports stillneed to come out.
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  • And I would say lastly,even the political people
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  • that were briefed,
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  • when you look at whatthey said CNN and MSNBC,
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  • it's dramatically differentthan what they said under oath
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  • in the bowels of congressduring a house committee meetin.
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  • It's there, you cango to the DNI website,
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  • you can read thetranscript from Susan Rice
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  • and from Samantha Power,and all these individuals
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  • who in public would saythis is outrageous collusion
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  • and then in privatethey would say,
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  • "I didn't see anything,there's nothing illegal."
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  • Lastly I'll just say SusanRice sent an email to her self
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  • on InaugurationDay trying to say,
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  • "We did everything by the book."
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  • Now come on, who sendsafter the fact emails to say
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  • I did everything thatI was supposed to do?
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  • You only do thatwhen you're thinking,
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  • "Gosh, I don't think I dideverything I was supposed to do
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  • so I better paper oversomething for the record."
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  • We all know that to be true.
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  • That's exactly what happened.
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  • We just got lucky in thatshe literally sent the email
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  • when Trump was alreadyPresident, after 12 o'clock
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  • on InaugurationDay she was still
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  • sitting in the White House,
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  • and at 12:15 the emailshows that she sent an email
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  • to herself under theTrump presidency,
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  • not under the Obama presidencyand that's how we got it,
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  • is that she was still in heroffice and sending emails
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  • to herself after the transitionof power had happened.
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  • - Rick, you talkedabout Joe Biden's record
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  • as a politician.
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  • I wanna play this for people.
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  • You talked about howmany years he's had
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  • this idea... new ideascoming from Joe Biden.
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  • Take a listen, folks.
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  • - Every time Joe Biden offersa new idea you should ask
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  • yourself why didn't he trythat over the last 48 years?
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  • - And then, Rick,you talked about too,
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  • is it gonna be a return backto just sending palettes
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  • of cash to Iran and Joe Biden'spromise he's gonna restart
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  • the Iran in nuclear deal.
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  • How dangerous is that?
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  • I mean, you were theambassador to Germany,
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  • they were concerned aboutthat, you are also acting DNI.
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  • I mean, how dangerous, whichis that old way of thinking,
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  • it's not a new idea ofjust going back to the same
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  • and restarting anuclear deal with Iran
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  • and also this idea that JoeBiden is somehow gonna have
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  • new ideas after he's beena politician for 48 years?
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  • - Yeah, look it'sthe Washington way,
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  • it's the Washingtonstory, right?
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  • I mean, you look atSchumer, you look at Pelosi,
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  • they've been there for decades.
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  • The idea that they're gonnabring change to this place
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  • or new ideas is ridiculous.
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  • It's just not gonna happen,and I keep saying to people
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  • this city, Washington,D.C. where I am,
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  • it's no longer a fight betweenrepublicans and democrats,
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  • it is a fight between theWashington status quo people
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  • who love their power,wanna hide information from
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  • the American peoplebecause when they control
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  • the information they get power.
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  • It's them versusthe rest of America,
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  • and this is the sameold story in Europe.
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  • It's the Berlin establishmentversus the rest of Germany,
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  • the hard working Germans.
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  • It's over and overand over again.
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  • I think it's thesame old elites,
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  • and, of course,they get their power
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  • and they wanna control it.
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  • Lastly I'll just say aboutJoe Biden's foreign policy,
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  • the word consensus soundsreally good, right?
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  • It sounds like it's agreeable,
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  • but in foreign policy I cantell you after eight years
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  • of being at the UN insidethe security counsel,
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  • if you're looking for consensusthat means 15 countries
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  • get to veto our ideaand we have the lowest
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  • common denominator ofwhat we all believe.
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  • So Joe Biden's foreignpolicy philosophy
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  • is governed by consensus,
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  • we're not gonna do anythingunless the Europeans sign off.
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  • So you know what thatmeans is that Berlin, Paris
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  • and London get to vetowhat Washington says.
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  • If we have an idea and theydon't like it we don't do it.
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  • That's what gave us theParis climate accord
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  • and it gave us the JCPOA.
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  • Both of them are documentsthat are the lowest
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  • common denominator of whata bunch of countries think
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  • and it is not good forthe American people.
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  • We are the only country inthe world that gets in trouble
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  • when we decide that we wannamake decisions for ourself.
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  • I can tell you the 192countries at the UN that I spent
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  • eight years with, every oneof them fights for themselves
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  • and for their people andthey don't apologize for it.
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  • - You brought up...
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  • Rick, this is Logan,by the way, hello.
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  • You brought up working withthe UN, working with Germany,
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  • but you also spend a lotof time on America First
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  • and the America First platform,
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  • for you though, having totake that point of view
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  • and then work withGermany, work with the UN,
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  • what is that like and how doyou represent the nationalist
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  • point of view to allof those other places
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  • throughout the world?
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  • - Look I think yougot to be authentic
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  • when it comes to diplomacy.
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  • I never wore a tie in Germany.
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  • Very few times have I met withthe chancellor or something,
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  • but there were times thatI just wanted to be myself.
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  • I wanted to be casual diplomatand authentic and real
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  • and have a conversation andshare what the US position is.
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  • We live in modern times.
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  • You can read what our policyis on Twitter or on Instagram.
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  • So I think the answer isbe authentic, be yourself,
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  • don't try to besomething that you're not
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  • and also always remember yourepresent the American people,
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  • not just Washington, D.C.
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  • - Rick, I'm gonna say againhow excited and encouraged
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  • we are to have youas part of our team,
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  • especially as a special advisoron national security issues
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  • and foreign policies,
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  • a lot of those in themonths ahead, weeks ahead.
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  • - Thanks, Rick.
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  • And again, folks, Rick willbe joining us throughout
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  • the broadcasting andthroughout each week.
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  • He'll be writing somefor ACLJ as well,
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  • so you will check that out.
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  • That will be exclusivecontent for the ACLJ website.
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  • So it's great tohave Rick on board.
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  • - Let me say one ofthe thing and that is,
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  • look these issues thatRick Grenell has dealt with
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  • for many years, decades, aregonna be the front and center
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  • issues that our countryis facing in the weeks,
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  • months and years ahead.
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  • So getting this kindof expertise and beable to bring that
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  • to our audience, we're justthrilled to have Rick Grenell
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  • to be part of the team.
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  • - Hey, welcome backto Jay Sekulow Live.
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  • So we're gonna get intothat was great to have
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  • and to announce to you thatnot only was Rick Grenell
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  • our guest, formerActing Director ofNational Intelligence,
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  • a cabinet member in theTrump administration
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  • and former USambassador Germany,
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  • not only was our guest today,
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  • but we had a specialannouncement for all of you
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  • that he is going to join theACLJ as a special advisor
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  • for national securityand foreign policy.
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  • And I just wanna let you know
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  • we're able to bringin people like this
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  • so he'll be regularlyon the broadcast,
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  • even by video for those ofyou who watch the Facebook
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  • and Periscope broadcast,he was via Skype
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  • so you can see it as well.
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  • And he'll be writing at leastonce a week exclusive content
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  • for the ACLJ, soexclusive for you.
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  • We're able to do all that
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  • because you supportthe work of the ACLJ.
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  • We're able to bring theseexperts in so that we can bring
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  • them to you, especiallyduring this heightened time,
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  • during election leadingup to two months out.
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  • - Especially these policies,
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  • these are gonna be thebig issues that the...
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  • - Foreign policy.
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  • - Of course, we got thedomestic issues which we know,
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  • but the foreign policies aregonna be big because they're...
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  • - And all that stuff?
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  • - Yeah, yeah, yeah.- Yeah.
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  • So, again, it wasgreat to have Rick
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  • and welcome him toour team as well.
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  • - Yeah, your support of theACLJ makes a huge difference.
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  • Let me bring in twoof our experts also,additional experts.
  • 00:11:58.095 --> 00:12:01.198
  • That is Professor HarryHutchinson, director of policy,
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  • and our seniorcounsel, Andy Ekonomou.
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  • I wanna start with aquestion first and we'll get
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  • to some other things,
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  • and that is one of the things...
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  • Andy, I'm gonna givethis one to you.
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  • Andy, I talked to Rick aboutwas when Rick mentioned
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  • that when he became theActing DNI he saw firsthand
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  • exactly what was going on,
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  • and it was a counterintelligenceeffort against
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  • the campaign and they secretlylaunched the surveillance
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  • of this counterintelligenceinvestigation,
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  • and it continuedwhile he was present,
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  • and we know that fromour experience in dealing
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  • with Bob Mueller andhis team (indistinct)
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  • for two and a half years.
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  • - That's right, Jay.
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  • What the purpose of the BobMueller investigation was,
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  • was as a President, exceptfrom the very beginning,
  • 00:12:48.011 --> 00:12:51.314
  • a hoax, an attempt totie him in with Russia
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  • in colluding to the(indistinct) and to influence
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  • the Presidential election.
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  • We knew that 18 prosecutorscouldn't sign anything,
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  • and for two and a halfyears literally tortured
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  • the President of TheUnited States and wasted
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  • the tax payers money, millionsand million of dollars
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  • in a hunt for somethingthat didn't exist.
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  • Rick Grenell comes in here,unmasks the people who
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  • participated in this andconfirms what we knew all along
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  • and what Robert Mueller triedto hide and that is that there
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  • was no collusion and therewas absolutely nothing
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  • that the President of UnitedStates had done wrong,
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  • that the Obama Administrationhad weaponized the FBI,
  • 00:13:30.887 --> 00:13:34.858
  • had weaponized thejustice department to spy
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  • on the campaign of hisopponent and to make up a story
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  • that we now haveexploded into mythology.
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  • - Harry, I wasgonna ask you this,
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  • one of the other things Ricktalked about was that putting
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  • America first is not somethingthat we should be ashamed
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  • to do, in fact he saidin dealing with the UN
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  • don't kid yourself, all ofthose countries are putting
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  • their leadership first.
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  • It's just that our policieshave sometimes taken
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  • a more of a consensus approach,
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  • which I believe wasdetrimental to America.
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  • What's your view on that
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  • and what you heardfrom Rick Grenell?
  • 00:14:06.089 --> 00:14:07.824
  • - Well, I think Rick Grenellwas absolutely correct.
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  • Counterintelligence officialsare basically elites.
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  • They're part of a permanenthierocracy who prefer to
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  • demean the intelligenceof ordinary Americans.
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  • They seek to installthemselves as permanent leaders
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  • of the republic contrary tothe text of the constitution.
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  • Many of them are globalistsand what that means in practice
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  • is that the United Statesmust take second place,
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  • and American imprestmust take second place
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  • to the imprest of globalists.
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  • And President Trumphad ended that approach
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  • and he has offered anAmerica First approach
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  • that puts American workingpeople ahead of working people
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  • in every other country in theworld, that is appropriate.
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  • This is the United States,this is not the United Nations.
  • 00:15:09.819 --> 00:15:14.758
  • - Did you see there was somenews made on the show today
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  • and that is that a former
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  • Acting Director of NationalIntelligence has a cabinet
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  • level position in theTrump administration?
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  • Rick Grenell has joinedthe American Center
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  • for Law & Justice asa special advisor for
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  • national securityand foreign policy.
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  • Be appearing on the broadcast
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  • and you'll get to actuallysee him via Skype,
  • 00:15:33.710 --> 00:15:35.779
  • exclusively for you.
  • 00:15:35.779 --> 00:15:37.247
  • That won't be contentthat will be anywhere else
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  • but the ACLJ's website.
  • 00:15:39.950 --> 00:15:41.918
  • - Look as these issues...
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  • Look the foreign policy issuesand national security issues
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  • are gonna be the forefront
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  • certainly during the nexteight weeks in this election,
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  • but also going forward.
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  • So bringing an expert thatserved in the cabinet,
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  • we had that privilegewith John Ashcroft
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  • and this is great also.
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  • - Yeah, because it was areminder of how much this first
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  • term has been attemptedto be undermined by that
  • 00:15:59.236 --> 00:16:02.973
  • intelligence communitythat Rick oversaw.
  • 00:16:02.973 --> 00:16:05.642
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:16:05.642 --> 00:16:07.210
  • - When you're Acting DNI youoversee every single branch
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  • of the intelligence, and he saw.
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  • And for three years,basically, they tried to put
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  • the Trump administrationon its heels.
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  • - No question.
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  • - And the President was stillable to accomplish a lot
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  • domestically, economicallyand when it came
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  • to foreign policy, butnot without a lot of pain
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  • and suffering for the country.
  • 00:16:25.695 --> 00:16:27.163
  • - And a lot of work for hislawyers and the pressure
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  • that puts on the President.
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  • But he did a great job.
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  • Now, LieutenantGeneral Kellogg spoke.
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  • I've gotten to work with him.
  • 00:16:34.537 --> 00:16:35.805
  • I'm an admirer ofGeneral Kellogg.
  • 00:16:35.805 --> 00:16:37.607
  • He's basically thenational security advisor
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  • for the Vice President.
  • 00:16:40.310 --> 00:16:42.746
  • He made an interesting point.
  • 00:16:42.746 --> 00:16:44.381
  • I want everybodyto listen to it,
  • 00:16:44.381 --> 00:16:45.615
  • then we get ourexpert's comments.
  • 00:16:45.615 --> 00:16:47.617
  • - But with the pastthree and a half years
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  • I witnessed every major foreignpolicy and national security
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  • decision by the President.
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  • I have been in theroom where it happened.
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  • I saw only one agendaand one guiding question
  • 00:17:00.030 --> 00:17:04.701
  • when tough calls had to be made,
  • 00:17:04.701 --> 00:17:06.603
  • is this decisionright for America?
  • 00:17:07.771 --> 00:17:10.940
  • - So, Harry, I'mgonna start with you.
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  • From a policy standpoint we'vealways taken the position,
  • 00:17:12.409 --> 00:17:15.712
  • is this right for America?
  • 00:17:15.712 --> 00:17:17.113
  • Is this right for our citizens?
  • 00:17:17.113 --> 00:17:18.481
  • That had to be thestarting point, doesn't it?
  • 00:17:18.481 --> 00:17:21.351
  • - Absolutely, but it has notalways been the starting point
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  • so that is what isso starkly different
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  • about President Trump.
  • 00:17:30.226 --> 00:17:31.895
  • He is actually puttingAmerica's interests first
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  • while globalists like formerPresident Barack Obama,
  • 00:17:36.399 --> 00:17:41.338
  • they were prepared togive money to terrorists
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  • in order to secure,for instance,
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  • the Iranian nuclear deal.
  • 00:17:48.778 --> 00:17:51.948
  • This makes no sense.
  • 00:17:51.948 --> 00:17:54.451
  • So here you have a Presidentwho took out al-Baghdadi,
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  • who took out QasemSoleimani, who took out Isis,
  • 00:17:58.521 --> 00:18:03.493
  • essentially, in the Middle East
  • 00:18:04.394 --> 00:18:06.162
  • while President Barack Obamain 2014 suggested that Isis
  • 00:18:06.162 --> 00:18:11.067
  • was simply the JV team,the junior varsity team.
  • 00:18:12.635 --> 00:18:17.006
  • So President Trump isconsistently looking out
  • 00:18:17.006 --> 00:18:21.444
  • for American imprest and heis acting upon that principle.
  • 00:18:21.444 --> 00:18:26.149
  • - All right, Andy, I wannafinish this segment up
  • 00:18:26.149 --> 00:18:29.519
  • because I gonna getinto some other issues,
  • 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:31.054
  • but I wanna finish this one up.
  • 00:18:31.054 --> 00:18:33.256
  • Ambassador Grenell did saythis, Rick did say this,
  • 00:18:33.256 --> 00:18:36.059
  • that he saw acounterintelligence move
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  • against a presidential campaign,that's how he summed it up.
  • 00:18:38.661 --> 00:18:41.564
  • - And he was right, Jay,
  • 00:18:41.564 --> 00:18:43.233
  • because it was acounterintelligencemove conspire at it
  • 00:18:43.233 --> 00:18:46.336
  • behind the Obama JusticeDepartment and the Obama FBIs.
  • 00:18:46.336 --> 00:18:50.340
  • It was an attempt toundermine the President
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  • of the United States,both as a candidate
  • 00:18:52.108 --> 00:18:54.277
  • and let's not forget in thetransition they sent people
  • 00:18:54.277 --> 00:18:57.781
  • in there to try to Flynn to lie
  • 00:18:57.781 --> 00:19:00.049
  • or just get him to saysomething that wasn't the case
  • 00:19:00.049 --> 00:19:03.219
  • with our counsel, and itwas a concerted effort
  • 00:19:03.219 --> 00:19:05.955
  • to undermine thePresident's administration.
  • 00:19:05.955 --> 00:19:08.358
  • Why don't we say that?
  • 00:19:08.358 --> 00:19:09.426
  • Why doesn't the media say that?
  • 00:19:09.426 --> 00:19:11.094
  • Because they're scaredto tell the truth.
  • 00:19:11.094 --> 00:19:13.430
  • America First.
  • 00:19:13.430 --> 00:19:14.531
  • - Yeah, there you go.
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  • All right. We're taking a break.
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  • We come back, more discussion.
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  • (intro music)
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  • - I wanna go to this one.
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  • I wanna play Mike Pence,
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  • Vice President of the UnitedStates, powerful speech
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  • talking about foreignpolicy issues,
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  • and I wanna get Harry andAndy's comments on that.
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  • Here we go, number eight.
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  • - Joe Biden criticizedPresident Trump
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  • following those decisions.
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  • Decisions to rid the worldof two terrorist leaders.
  • 00:19:37.597 --> 00:19:41.435
  • But it's not surprising
  • 00:19:42.336 --> 00:19:44.204
  • because historyrecords that Joe Biden
  • 00:19:44.204 --> 00:19:46.440
  • even opposed the operationthat took down Osama bin Laden.
  • 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.510
  • It's no wonder that thesecretary of defense
  • 00:19:52.346 --> 00:19:56.483
  • under the Obama-BidenAdministration once said
  • 00:19:56.483 --> 00:20:00.253
  • that Joe Biden hasbeen, and I quote,
  • 00:20:00.253 --> 00:20:03.557
  • "Wrong on nearly everymajor foreign policy
  • 00:20:03.557 --> 00:20:07.361
  • and national security issueover the past four decades."
  • 00:20:07.361 --> 00:20:12.366
  • - That's why we're thrilledat the ACLJ to bring on
  • 00:20:13.767 --> 00:20:16.103
  • as our special advisor,
  • 00:20:16.103 --> 00:20:17.804
  • Rick Grenell, todeal with the issues
  • 00:20:20.841 --> 00:20:22.209
  • of national securityforeign policy.
  • 00:20:22.209 --> 00:20:23.910
  • Harry, quickly, that wasquite a statement coming from
  • 00:20:23.910 --> 00:20:28.148
  • the Vice President.
  • 00:20:28.148 --> 00:20:29.082
  • - Absolutely, and Joe Bidencannot rebut that statement.
  • 00:20:30.550 --> 00:20:35.088
  • So Joe Biden has beenwrong on virtually every
  • 00:20:36.256 --> 00:20:40.327
  • foreign policy decisionfor the last 40 years,
  • 00:20:40.327 --> 00:20:43.463
  • meanwhile President Trumphas put America first.
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  • We have stood with ourallies and we have stood up
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  • to our enemies.
  • 00:20:52.105 --> 00:20:53.874
  • We have moved the AmericanEmbassy to Israel,
  • 00:20:53.874 --> 00:20:57.744
  • the capital of theState of Israel,
  • 00:20:57.744 --> 00:20:59.746
  • and that has center stagefor the first Arab country
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  • to recognize Israel in 26 years.
  • 00:21:02.783 --> 00:21:05.852
  • So President Trump is a doer.
  • 00:21:05.852 --> 00:21:07.854
  • Vice President Bidenis simply an individual
  • 00:21:08.989 --> 00:21:13.226
  • who seems lost in space.
  • 00:21:13.226 --> 00:21:15.328
  • - When you compare the two,again, just look at one issue,
  • 00:21:15.328 --> 00:21:17.931
  • we talked about Iran withRick Grenell earlier,
  • 00:21:17.931 --> 00:21:20.200
  • but he made this statementabout the differences
  • 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:22.169
  • and how they'd beapproaching Iran
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  • you've talked about with thenuclear deal with Mike Pence
  • 00:21:24.071 --> 00:21:25.872
  • talking about that how aboutjust with what's happened
  • 00:21:25.872 --> 00:21:30.277
  • by the Trump Administration.
  • 00:21:30.277 --> 00:21:32.012
  • Rick Grenell talked aboutthat we're not starting wars,
  • 00:21:32.012 --> 00:21:35.382
  • we're ending wars.
  • 00:21:35.382 --> 00:21:36.683
  • And how are we doing that?
  • 00:21:36.683 --> 00:21:38.185
  • By strategically taking outIranian terrorist leaders.
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  • So listen to this byte thought.
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  • I thought it wasjust very telling
  • 00:21:44.925 --> 00:21:46.059
  • because it's absolutelytrue, byte 64.
  • 00:21:46.059 --> 00:21:48.128
  • - A return to the Biden wayof thinking means America
  • 00:21:48.128 --> 00:21:50.630
  • gives the radical terroristregime in Taron a plane load
  • 00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:54.734
  • of cash in themiddle of the night.
  • 00:21:54.734 --> 00:21:56.603
  • Well, you see, PresidentTrump also sent an aircraft
  • 00:21:58.004 --> 00:22:01.441
  • in the middle of thenight to deal with Iran,
  • 00:22:01.441 --> 00:22:03.677
  • but that plane was ona different mission,
  • 00:22:04.845 --> 00:22:07.647
  • an airstrike to take out thehead of Iran's terror machine
  • 00:22:07.647 --> 00:22:10.717
  • who plotted thedeaths of Americans.
  • 00:22:10.717 --> 00:22:13.353
  • - Heard a lot fromIran recently?
  • 00:22:13.353 --> 00:22:15.555
  • - Yeah, not much.
  • 00:22:15.555 --> 00:22:17.023
  • - I hear a lot of them they'redealing with COVID crisis.
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  • Hadn't heard a lot withtheir nuclear program?
  • 00:22:19.126 --> 00:22:20.560
  • - No, no.
  • 00:22:20.560 --> 00:22:22.028
  • - So think aboutthat difference too.
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  • As always, let me thankeverybody at TBN for providing
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  • this time to us at no cost,
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  • so we can update you onthe most important issues
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  • of the day.
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  • From all of us, theACLJ, thanks, TBN.
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