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Sekulow | Jay Sekulow - Big Trouble For Comey | July 22, 2025

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- welcome to "sekulow."
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This is logan sekulow.
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Will haynes is in studio with me.
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James comey is the headline of the day
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Because the fbi has decided,
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"maybe it's time we look into this.
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Actually start an investigation into what's going on
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With russia and with james comey
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And everything that played into it."
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Again, comey don't play that.
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It's gonna be a great show.
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Coming up next, my dad jay sekulow is gonna join us.
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But will, why don't you go over that breaking news.
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- that's right.
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So we are now finding out
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That both the former cia director john brennan
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And the former fbi director james comey,
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Are under criminal investigation.
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- [logan] whoa.
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- the former cia director, john brennan,
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There was a criminal referral sent over
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To the department of justice
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By current cia director john ratcliffe.
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They referred evidence of wrongdoing by brennan
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To fbi director kash patel for potential prosecution
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And sources have also said
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That there is an investigation into james comey.
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Now with james comey,
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He was in the news with his 8647 seashells.
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- [logan] yeah. - a few weeks ago, but-
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- always finds a way to work his way back in.
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- this isn't about his seashells.
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- [logan] not yet.
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That'll be in five more years.
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- this is about the russia gate hoax
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That was perpetrated by john brennan and james comey.
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And we know that just a few days ago,
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Right before the holiday, the 4th of july,
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The cia declassified a review of the internal tradecraft
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That the cia used in their review of the 2016 election.
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And they found a lot of issues.
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They found that there was a lot
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Of abnormalities like john brennan himself
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Getting into that review, being normally directors
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And senior staff like that look at the work product
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After, they don't become a part of that work product.
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There is an abbreviated timeline
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Because the obama administration wanted to get something out
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Before president trump took office.
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And things like john brennan himself pushing
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For the inclusion of the steele dossier, even at the protest
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Of some of the other intelligence community members.
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So we've got this breaking news.
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They're under criminal investigation.
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There's some caution there, obviously logan,
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Because- - [logan] it's a source.
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- it's a source.
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The fbi and doj don't normally talk about investigations.
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One of the anomalies to that was james comey himself
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When he gave-
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- [logan] he was always out there.
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- primetime announcements.
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- [logan] made himself a star. - about about hillary clinton.
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But we're gonna see where this goes.
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We're gonna get your dad's take in the next segment
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Because obviously he lived through this,
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And fought this for a long time,
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So, we'll see what he has to say.
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- he'll be on the next segment
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And i'd like to hear from you.
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Do you think this is good or do you
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Think we just need to move on?
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What do you think?
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Should we be looking back at these situations
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And making sure people
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Who were doing things unethically, unjustifiably
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Are brought to justice, including people
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Like james comey and john brennan?
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I think this is an interesting moment.
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Will and i were on the phone last night when this broke.
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You know what's nice?
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It's nice we know what the topic's gonna be
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Even a few hours before
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And will was very giddy in telling me,
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Lead topic, lead topic.
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- well i mean when you get a criminal investigation
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Of the former cia director
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And former director of the fbi
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That pushed this russia collusion hoax, uh yeah,
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I get excited to see justice may be served here.
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- these guys get are born for this.
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I mean, what kind of names?
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John brennan, james comey, ratcliffe.
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I mean john ratcliffe.
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These are like, they feel like they're
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From like the olden times, these names.
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They were meant to be cia directors
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And fbi and intelligence.
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And fbi and intelligence.
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- welcome back to "sekulow".
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My dad, jay sekulow, chief counsel of the aclj
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And obviously someone who was deeply involved in this
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Situation is joining us for his commentary.
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Will, why don't we give us a little bit,
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Like, if people are just joining us,
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Give us like a 30 second recap
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And then let's get our thoughts.
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- 30 second recap is that there are sources telling fox news
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That the former cia director john brennan
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And former fbi director james comey,
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Are under criminal investigation
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For potential wrongdoing related to the trump russia probe.
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And in addition to that is that
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There was a criminal referral sent over
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By the current director of the cia, john ratcliffe,
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To the fbi about wrongdoing by brennan.
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We don't have a lot of details, obviously the doj
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And the fbi don't comment publicly on investigations.
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This would be early stages of a criminal investigation.
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But let's go right to your dad
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And just knowing what you know
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And what you lived through, do you think
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This is a long overdue investigation?
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- well, let me tell you a couple things.
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Number one, if there's two lawyers in america
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That know something about the situation
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With comey and brendan, it's jay sekulow
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And jordan sekulow, because we, as you both said,
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We lived it.
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Look, i think this is long overdue.
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The question's going to be, is there an action
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That took place within the statute of limitations
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That would then justify a,
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Going from a criminal investigation
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To a criminal prosecution?
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We know that the entire issue of the steele dossier
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And the way they tried
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To basically shake down the then-president-elect
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Of the united states.
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We now know of course with the evidence that we gathered
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During the course of the impeachment proceedings
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And bob mueller's investigation, more particularly,
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The mueller investigation, we know
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That there was no violation of any law by the president.
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We know also that there was no collusion
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Between the russian government and the trump campaign.
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That was the conclusion of bob mueller.
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Now here's the issue that is important.
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James comey oversaw the fbi
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At a critical time.
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It was during crossfire hurricane,
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Which was the first investigation, we now know,
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Of the sitting president of the united states
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Or then the president-elect and also the candidate.
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Remember though, once he was elected president
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In 2016, it was james comey,
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The fbi, james brennan
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And these, john brennan, and these others,
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That decided that they would meet with president-elect trump
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And brief him on the discredited dossier.
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It was a shakedown, that's what it was.
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It was an attempt to intimidate a president.
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It was a move to try to curtail
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The president's initiatives by distraction.
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And we also know that james comey leaked a memo
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That he prepared in a government vehicle
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About a conversation he had
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With the president of the united states,
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And he leaked it to a long professor friend of his
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To get to the press.
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So should this be looked into criminally?
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You bet.
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- yeah, i think a lot of people are commenting saying,
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Hey, is this a distraction?
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Is this a something we need to actually be focusing on now?
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Should we just move on?
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Let history tell the story and move on?
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But you're saying no, that's not the way it should be.
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It should be looked into
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Because these were egregious acts
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That happened time and time again.
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So you can't just let these things slide
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Or whether it's a republican or democrat.
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These kind of moments from the fbi
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And the cia can happen again.
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- look, james comey has got a record
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Of intervening in presidential elections.
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He did that also, remember, it's i think important
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To remember, he did it to hillary clinton
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With announcing an investigation,
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Opened an investigation, closed
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And then reopened four days
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Before the general election.
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None of which he had the authority to do.
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He did it around the attorney general's back.
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So look, there's a whole host of issues that need
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To be looked at because what you cannot have
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Are these rogue agents
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Or rogue leaders trying to basically terminate,
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Stop the actions of the duly elected
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President of the united states.
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- so what's the real consequences of this?
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I think that's gonna be a question too,
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Because look, we hear james comey, someone
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Who we've known who's never been really good
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At the final consequences.
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He's always someone who tells you all the horrible things
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Someone has done and then of course
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Couldn't actually get anything done.
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Now we have the reverse here.
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What should people be anticipating
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On what this investigation actually does look like
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In terms of a result?
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- okay, so we should not hear
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About the investigation while it's ongoing.
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What we should hear is at the conclusion
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Of the investigation, if the department of justice decides
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To make a move for a grand jury impaneling
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And then a prosecution.
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Do i think there's evidence of it to move forward?
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I think there's certainly enough to take it to a,
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This investigatory stage.
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I suspect that there will be enough
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For the investigative stage to merge
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Or morph into a prosecutorial stage.
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And then of course ultimately a trial.
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But they should be held with what they did.
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They tried to stop the government
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Of the united states from operating according
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To the constitution of the united states.
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So you bet they should be held accountable
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And it's gonna be, you know,
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The interesting thing is the ratcliffe,
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His decision to make a referral to the fbi,
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And which is within the department of justice of course,
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That means he had seen something.
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I don't know this obviously,
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But i'm just looking at it from a, the referral coming,
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The reports indicate the referral came
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From the department of justice
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To the department of justice rather,
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From john ratcliffe over at the cia.
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That tells me they saw something,
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Or he saw something, that concerned him enough to know
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That there has been a violation of the law.
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And moving that to now a criminal stage.
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- there is about three and a half years left
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In president trump's term.
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Is this something that can get done in that?
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I know that sounds like a long time for a lot of people,
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But with the justice system, with the legal system, we know
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That's not always the case.
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Is this something that can get done within his term?
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- certainly the investigation
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And if there's a grand jury impaneled
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And indicted, the answer to that is, yes.
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Could it go to trial from this day forward, three years?
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Tough, unless the investigation is much further
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Along than we anticipated.
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But remember, the previous administration indicted
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The former president of the united states.
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They've been trying to take this guy down for 10 years.
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- that's one other angle as well.
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You mentioned that comey admitted, and even bragged
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About leaking that memo to the press,
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He bragged about sending spies in.
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I'm seeing a lot of comments from people on both rumble
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And youtube saying they remember you saying
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These very things back in real time when it was happening
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And calling out these specific actors.
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But in addition to the report of the criminal referral,
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John ratcliffe just a few days ago on july 2nd,
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Released a declassified intel tradecraft review.
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And it gives a little bit of color to this
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Because it appears john brennan,
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Either at the behest of the president of the united states,
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Barack obama at the time,
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Or on his own volition,
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Got deep into this process in december,
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After trump was elected,
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Before trump would take office in that first term.
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And he was making decisions that were outside of cia norms.
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And he was the one that insisted even at the protest
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Of other members of the intel community,
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Of including the steele dossier in this report.
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We've got about two minutes left,
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But i just wanna get your take on that.
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Could that be an angle
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That maybe arose when they reviewed how this took place?
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- well, certainly, i mean, we don't know the evidence of
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What they've seen or what new data they have gathered,
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But the nature of what happened justifies the investigation,
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There's no doubt about it.
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But remember this also,
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They were trying to take this guy down
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Before he was elected.
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They were trying to take him down once he was elected.
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They were trying to take him down once he served in office,
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Then they did it all again and tried it again this time
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And it didn't work, trying to remove him from ballots.
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So look, comey and brennan
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And a host of others, what they did was outrageous to the,
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For the american people,
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Was a violation of the constitution,
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And at the end of the day, this is why the aclj exists.
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We've been dealing with this upfront for seven years.
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It took that long to get attention to it now.
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I'm glad we did.
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We've, i've been saying if you went back
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And traced how long i've been saying this,
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It would be almost a decade.
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Eight years, seven, eight years.
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- welcome back to "sekulow".
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It's a great show today.
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We've been packed, we've been talking about a lot of topics.
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We had my dad, jay sekulow join us.
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Now we have secretary pompeo, mike pompeo, joining us.
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Will, i'm gonna let you kick off this with some questions
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For secretary pompeo because these are some interesting days
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And it feels like every 24 hours we always
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Know what we're gonna be leading with, will.
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These stories kind of break
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And this one is the one we've been talking about all day.
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And another person who really, i'm sure, has invaluable
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Commentary on this, secretary pompeo.
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- that's right.
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So we, we found out last night
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That the fbi is investigating both james comey
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As well as the former cia director john brennan.
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That's a title that our esteemed colleague here
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Also shares, is former cia director.
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While we don't know too much about the details of this,
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And that's as it should be
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Because when there's an investigation, typically the doj
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And fbi should not be talking
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About an ongoing investigation,
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But it's allegedly about their role
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In the russia gate matter,
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The probe into collusion
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Between president trump and russia.
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What are your initial thoughts when you saw this break?
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- well, my initial thoughts, will,
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Were that i was unsurprised
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In the following sense:
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Director brennan, who, john brennan,
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Who was the cia director
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Immediately before me, had deeply politicized this thing
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That became known as the ica.
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It was associated with an investigation and some data.
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And then the steele dossier
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That the fbi had found under director comey.
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And they had created a process that was very unusual.
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They had put some people on it that were
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Outside the normal process
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And then they had gone to the white house
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With this information when it was way too preliminary
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To have done so,
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And then they ultimately published it,
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Which is also very unusual.
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The cia usually does an analysis and analytics
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And provides that
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To decision makers in a classified setting.
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And instead they chose to go public with this
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At a very critical time around the election.
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And so i don't know what they'll find ultimately,
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But i do hope that they complete this investigation in a way
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That is not politicized, but deeply, deeply reported
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And well done.
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And that the fbi/doj will do their best
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To make what they can of this public
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And if there are prosecutable offenses,
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That they will do that as well.
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- you mentioned that ica,
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The intelligence community assessment, which is
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What kicked everything off.
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And that was the work product
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Post election in 2016, but before the transition
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From the obama presidency
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To the trump presidency.
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And director ratcliffe put out a declassified
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Internal tradecraft review
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Of that work product just a few days ago.
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And it showed anomalies in the way
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That the cia would typically produce a work product
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Like that, including the director himself
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Being very heavily involved,
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Not listening to dissents when it came
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To some of the opinions that were in there.
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When you look at something like that,
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And obviously you have a lot more knowledge
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Than you can probably share on air when it comes
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To even the workings of this,
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But is that an important transparency being able
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To share something like that?
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Or is it once again, something
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That the cia should be more closely guarded about?
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- i'm very comfortable
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With what director ratcliffe released.
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He, yeah, i think he did so in a very careful fashion,
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A very thoughtful fashion.
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The intelligence community has an obligation
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Where it can share information with the public,
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It ought to, and when it can't,
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It has to protect it vigorously
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And prosecute people who violate that idea
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Of confidentiality or classification.
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And so i think director ratcliffe
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Is in a very measured way trying to make clear
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To the american people that he's working on this project
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And that he'll do his best to release the results.
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But let's be certain of this,
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That what came out when that ica was ultimately released
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By the obama administration at an unclassified level,
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It was intentional.
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It was intended to undermine the trump presidency.
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I wrote in my book about the fact
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That director comey briefed president trump
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On january 6th of 2017.
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I remember the date expressly
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Now that january 6th has become such a big deal,
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January 6th, 2017,
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And essentially told president trump
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That we have information that suggests that you are,
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You know, a russian asset or too close to the russians.
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That was not true.
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The steele dossier has proven to be nearly wholly fabricated
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And it set back our administration greatly.
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And that is a, at the very least, a failure
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Of the intelligence community, the fbi and the cia,
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But in the worst case, an intentional politicization of it.
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And if it's the latter, the individuals who did that
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Need to be held accountable.
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- you also mentioned, just even the trust
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In these intelligence agencies
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That we saw suffer one through the end
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Of the obama presidency
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And then under others in the previous administration.
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But i wanted to get your take on this,
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'cause i remember very distinctly
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When you became the director of the cia,
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You said the cia, something to the effect
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Of the cia is getting back to secrets
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And kind of refocusing the mission
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On what the purpose of the cia is.
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And do you think that,
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And i'm sure you have many thoughts on this
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And could probably write another book
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Just on the shift in the ic from protecting secrets
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And doing espionage and things of that nature,
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And becoming this political machine.
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Do you think that is expressly why the public has lost
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So much trust in the ic community
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Between the obama years and the biden years as well?
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- i absolutely do, 100% believe that.
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When these organizations stray from their mission
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Right, to protect us all, right?
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The fbi's mission is to keep criminals off the streets
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And to protect us from foreign espionage.
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And the cia's job is to get good intelligence
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So presidents and secretaries of defense
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Can make good decisions.
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When they walk away from that mission,
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When they say, we're not gonna take any risks,
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We're not gonna go out and do espionage,
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We're not gonna keep secrets,
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We're instead going to go engage in political behavior.
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And we saw this, by the way, we saw this
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With the hunter biden laptop.
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We saw the same characters, clapper and comey and brennan.
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We saw these same characters go sign a document
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That was patently false, right?
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And they knew, they knew it was intended to mislead
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So president biden could succeed in his debate,
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Had a talking point in his debate.
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When they engage in that kind of behavior,
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These institutions lose the trust
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And credibility that they need
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To perform a vital american function.
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And they will be, you know, they will be limited
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In what they could do because the american people said,
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We just don't, we have no confidence in you.
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And that's really dangerous.
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If they're out, they perform important functions,
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They should stay focused on their mission.
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And when they lose that,
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The american people will rightly come to doubt them
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And ultimately restrict them from their ability
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To perform their mission.
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- one final question for you today,
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As i know the work you did was trying
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To restore, one, the core mission,
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But also the trust as well.
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And i know that director ratcliffe
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Shares that same vision of restoring the good work
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As well as the public trust.
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What else can be done for, not obviously
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With tradecraft, with the things
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That, the work they're already doing,
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But to re-engage the american public
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To have trust in these institutions?
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Because many times the work, getting back to it,
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When you're doing it right,
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No one will ever know about the good work that the cia does
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And these intelligence community agencies perform.
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So you kind of have this competing interest
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When doing the right thing means
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People don't know what you're doing.
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How do you think we can start to rebuild the trust in many
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Of these institutions?
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- so i have a number of thoughts.
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I'd begin with this; it's very important
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That individuals who violate that trust,
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Who behave in ways that are inconsistent
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With what they're supposed to be doing,
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Are held accountable.
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And i'm not talking about just junior people
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Who make a mistake or what have you.
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Fine, they should be held accountable too.
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But in the end, the political appointees,
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The folks that the president of the united states appoint
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Have to be held accountable if they do that.
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And so i hope that what direct ratcliffe
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Will be able to achieve is sufficient transparency
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To demonstrate real accountability.
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And then second, you're right, sometimes you just have
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To keep your head down
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And nobody knows the good work you're doing.
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That's the nature of the work these institutions perform.
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But then they also have the obligation, when they can,
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And when it's appropriate, to share with the american people
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What they're doing, why they do it, how they do it,
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How this accountability is built into the system.
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And when you do that, people will come
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To trust these remarkable young men
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And women who risk their lives on the streets
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To keep us safe in the united states for the fbi
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And then doing this abroad
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For the central intelligence agency.
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- let's go to ronald in south carolina.
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Watch it on rumble, one of our
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Favorite free speech platforms.
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- [ronald] yes, thanks for taking my call.
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Enjoyed the show and especially right now
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From all of the things that are literally coming to light
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And having to sit on the hands
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And just waiting to finally see the house of cards
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Crumble when with all the, those like kumi
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And brennan and all these others in the swamp,
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Just literally trying to destroy trump and everything.
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And so i see that certainly there is a change coming and,
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But yet there are those liberals who are still there saying,
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Well, as far as i'm concerned, the end justifies the means.
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And i was okay with what they were doing just
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To keep trump out of the office and stuff like that.
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Keep things as they were.
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- it is easy, will, to get, you know, jaded in this
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And to think that these investigations are always gonna lead
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Towards nothing, because it does feel that way.
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- well, and remember what your dad said as well,
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Earlier in the show.
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One of the biggest blessings that people like brennan
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And comey got was the issues
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And abnormalities in the 2020 election,
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Whether it be the whole country shut down
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Or whatnot, that joe biden
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Became the president of the united states.
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Because it put enough distance between them
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From the time, so what, we don't know
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What's in the investigation and that's good.
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We shouldn't know while they're investigating.
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But if they can and they can prosecute these people then,
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And there is the evidence to do so
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And a grand jury returns an indictment,
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That is a good thing for the country.
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But one of those things, when you have that four-year gap
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And that pushes out beyond the statute of limitations
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For many of the things
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That could be brought against them,
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We don't know what they are,
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We don't know when they're alleging it happened.
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But if there is something that can be prosecuted,
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I think that would be good for the country.
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- [jordan] as always, let me thank everybody at tbn
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For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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Jay Sekulow - Big Trouble For Comey

July 22, 2025 | 28:40

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