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Sekulow | Jay Sekulow - Intel Leak After Successful Mission | July 9, 2025
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- - well, you could have expected this to happen.
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- Of course, the new york times, cnn,
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- And all of your favorite sources are now saying,
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- "you know that incredible military strike
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- That our brave team was able to go in,
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- Get it done, and get out
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- Before even anyone knew it happened.
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- Hmm, not good enough. not good enough."
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- And of course, that reporting
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- Came out of some leaked documents.
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- And of course, we still are dealing with the fact
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- That there are leaked documents.
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- Leaking is still happening.
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- But thankfully now, we have a group
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- That is in there right now in the pentagon saying,
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- "hey, if you're gonna be leaking
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- These top high-end security, you know, details,
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- Number one, it's treasonous."
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- Again, those are their words, "it's treasonous.
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- And also, we're gonna do an investigation.
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- We're gonna figure out how you got this info,"
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- Because really, who does it benefit?
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- Who does it benefit to show this analysis?
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- And the analysis, of course,
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- They said was not necessarily 100%
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- Wasn't necessarily accurate.
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- They did say that it was leaked saying that,
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- Yes, it pushed 'em back probably months.
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- Maybe it didn't push them back years
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- Or completely decimate these facilities.
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- But it's also not anything
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- That's been 100% proven by any means.
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- But the only person,
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- Or the only group that this emboldens
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- Is the enemy at this point.
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- - that's right, logan.
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- We now have confirmation
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- That the deep state isn't just alive and well,
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- But it's playing politics with war, with our troops now.
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- And so who does the deep state go to
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- When they want to subvert the agenda of president trump
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- Or even the successes of our military?
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- They go to natasha bertrand,
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- Who is cnn's deep state correspondent.
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- Remember she is the one that got the exclusive
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- About the 51 former intelligence individuals
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- That were coming out saying,
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- "hey, this hunter biden laptop,
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- It's russian disinformation."
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- So she ran with that, that was her big scoop.
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- And now her big scoop for cnn
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- Is that there's an intelligence report
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- From the defense intelligence agency
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- That by the way, has low level confidence.
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- And- - what does that mean?
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- I want people
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- To understand that. - that means that this is just
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- A very preliminary assessment.
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- They haven't been able to really get in there
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- And see what has gone on.
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- But the low level confidence,
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- Top secret intelligence report
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- That was leaked to cnn said that
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- It appears that their capacity to build a nuclear weapon
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- Is moved back by a matter of months.
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- So that is now the headline that you're seeing
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- People like erin burnett on cnn running with,
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- After their reporter, natasha bertrand went with it.
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- The new york times.
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- - what to celebrate- - they're all taking it.
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- They're celebrating this like there's
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- Egg on the president's face when in reality our soldiers,
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- Our troops, our pilots went over there
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- And had a perilous mission, did it,
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- And now they're celebrating it.
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- - yeah, they're celebrating
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- What they think could be a not 100% successful mission.
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- Well, you know what we know also about this president?
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- Guess what? it's not 100% successful.
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- You know what's gonna happen.
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- We'll send a couple more over there.
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- We'll see what happens. okay.
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- Right now, there's quiet.
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- Has anything happened really overnight? no.
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- Did that ceasefire stick the first time? no.
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- But did it stick that second time? it sure seems like it.
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- 'cause we have an administration that actually cares.
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- Do i like that these kind of things leak? no, i do not.
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- I think that this is very damaging to a lot of people
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- And to really, it's to our safety and our security.
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- We gotta figure this part out.
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- And i'm glad the pete,
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- And some of the other groups there, i mean, look,
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- They were able to accomplish the mission
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- Without anything leaking.
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- They were able to do the unthinkable,
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- Send, you know, planes from missouri to iran and back
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- Without any of us knowing.
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- Not even the news was reporting
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- That there was explosions that happened.
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- It was done before anyone knew.
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- But how dare they have a successful mission?
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- We're gonna try to put egg on their face
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- And then try to smirch the name of our us military.
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- It's disgusting. i hate it.
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- We're talking about the intelligence leak that happened.
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- You may have seen saying that, "hey,
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- They didn't fully destroy these nuke facilities,
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- But they bumped them back just a matter of months."
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- Which again, to me is still bumping back
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- What was a almost nuke threat by a matter of months,
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- It's still a success.
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- But they're saying of course, that's not even accurate.
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- But that is coming from a low level leaker.
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- And right now the pentagon is going to investigate
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- How this happened
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- 'cause this should not still be happening.
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- Like will said, it feels like the deep state
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- Can be alive and well right now
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- If it comes to any sort of success
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- That may happen under a trump administration.
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- Now, i do think we should give some time to president trump.
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- Give some time to cnn so you can hear
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- What they had to say and maybe some others.
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- Will, where do you wanna go first?
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- - well, let's first lay out what happened.
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- This was natasha bertand who is infamous for
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- Russia gate reporting with business insider.
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- And then she got a promotion within the world
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- Of anti-trump journalists and joined cnn.
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- And then she famously got the scoop
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- About the 51 intel members that lied
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- About the hunter biden laptop
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- To try to give cover for president biden's election in 2020.
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- And now she has a new scoop.
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- And this is the headline;
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- "exclusive, early us intel assessment suggests
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- Strikes on iran did not destroy nuclear sites," sources say.
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- What is so troubling here on many layers,
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- Is that remember how pete hegseth
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- And the entire team early on,
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- Because of the incidental adding of jeffrey goldberg
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- To their signal chat put national security at risk.
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- So many people were at risk,
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- And just the fact of our secrets being not protected.
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- Now we have cnn running with a story
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- That was leaked to them.
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- - so happy to do it. - in the aftermath
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- Of a successful bombing campaign in iran
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- That is trying to push a different narrative
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- Than what the president has said.
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- And honestly, it's a low, low confidence assessment.
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- It's very early, but-
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- - well, they're breathing a sigh relief
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- Because actually it's something they can report on
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- That their audience hopefully will like.
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- That's the problem is they've been, you know,
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- Having to cover a story that has been kind of celebrated
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- Over even from a lot of democrats.
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- And they don't like that, it doesn't fit the narrative.
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- So, what are we gonna do?
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- We're gonna get someone we know,
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- A low level person in the pentagon to leak us in a document
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- That says, "oh, it was a success.
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- Just maybe not as big of a success as we thought."
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- - and the fact that they are so excited
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- And wanting to push this.
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- And you even saw aaron burnett, who a few weeks ago,
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- Maybe just before the attack,
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- Said that iran was years away from a nuclear bomb.
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- Now, joyfully reporting, look,
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- It's only pushed back their program a couple of months,
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- Trying to have it both ways.
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- They're excited about this
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- Instead of calling this out, what is this?
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- A national security risk, this leak.
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- This is someone who decided to leak something
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- For political purposes
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- And the only person it helps other than maybe
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- A bump in viewership at cnn
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- And msnbc is the ayatollah of iran.
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- It's a pr win for the iranians.
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- Regardless of what the assessment says,
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- The only person it helps
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- Is the iranian mullahs and ayatollah.
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- - i think we should, you know, give them their due.
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- You probably want to hear from 'em.
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- So, maybe we'll hear from bertrand,
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- Hear a little bit from cnn.
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- Where do you want, where do you wanna start with?
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- - sure, you can.
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- This is natasha bertrand reporting on the story.
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- This is byte 10.
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- - this is the first assessment that we are getting
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- That the us intelligence community has found
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- About the battle damage that was,
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- That resulted from those us military strikes
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- On these three iranian nuclear facilities over the weekend.
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- And as you said, it was produced
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- By the defense intelligence agency,
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- Which is the pentagon's intelligence arm.
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- And it is worth noting that it is a very early assessment.
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- The strikes were only a matter of days ago
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- And the intelligence community
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- Is still gathering intelligence.
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- They're still working to come up
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- With a full comprehensive picture
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- Of what exactly happened here.
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- But based on a battle damage assessment
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- That was carried out by us central command,
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- Essentially looking at the images
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- And looking at what was actually damaged.
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- The defense intelligence agency has assessed
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- That the core components of iran's nuclear program
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- Are largely intact and that iran's nuclear program
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- Has essentially only been set back by months.
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- - all right, so that is cnn's point of view, again,
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- Coming from leaked documents, low level documents.
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- Again, she caveats it a little by saying,
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- "you know, this is just early assessments.
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- We don't really know, we haven't really been able
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- To go take a look at all the battle damage."
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- This is maybe from looking at, i guess,
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- Satellite imagery of what happened here.
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- And look, i'm not saying necessarily they're wrong,
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- Because there, now president trump
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- And a lot of them have said they're wrong.
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- But the idea that you would get this document,
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- You would push to get it,
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- And then you would report on something that, again,
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- Only benefits a very big threat to the united states.
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- I don't understand, other than just putting president trump,
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- Making him look somehow a little bit
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- Less honest, i guess, than they want,
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- 'cause he said it was a massive success.
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- But let's hear from president trump as well talking,
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- And then kaitlan collins.
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- - oh, fake news cnn.
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- Oh yeah, yeah. here we go.
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- Wait till you hear this question.
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- - thank you, sir. - you should really say
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- How great our soldiers and our warriors are.
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- - i think everyone appreciates
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- Our soldiers and our warriors.
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- I do have two questions for you, mr. president.
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- You just cited israeli intelligence on these attacks.
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- Earlier you said us intelligence was inconclusive.
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- Are you relying on israeli intelligence for your assessment
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- Of the impact of the strikes? - no. no.
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- No, this is also, iran made the statement
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- And it's also, if you read the document that was given
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- That pete can talk about if you'd like,
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- The document said it could be very severe damage,
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- But they didn't take that.
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- They said it could be limited or it could be very severe.
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- They really didn't know other than to say
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- It could be limited or it could be very, very severe.
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- And you didn't choose to put that
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- Because it was very early after.
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- Since then, we've collected additional intelligence.
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- We've also spoken to people who have seen the site
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- And the site is obliterated
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- And we think everything nuclear is down there.
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- They didn't take it out.
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- - when you hear the president there, one,
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- Also pointing out as cnn likes to do that.
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- And you could tell that natasha bertand,
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- Even in that report had clearly seen the whole document.
- 00:11:02.956 --> 00:11:06.226
- - yeah. - she knew a lot of details
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- And ins and outs.
- 00:11:07.861 --> 00:11:09.263
- But that is selective reporting in the headline,
- 00:11:09.263 --> 00:11:12.599
- The splashy headline that they wanted was that
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- The assessment suggests strikes on iran
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- Did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say.
- 00:11:18.305 --> 00:11:21.141
- They are using anonymous leakers
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- That are dangerous to the united states national security.
- 00:11:23.243 --> 00:11:27.181
- They are trying to undermine the mission
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- Of our military and of the president.
- 00:11:29.516 --> 00:11:32.653
- They should be celebrating that everyone was safe,
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- That it struck a military target
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- And that it wasn't leaked beforehand,
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- Even though they are probably upset
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- That their deep state sources didn't give them a tip off
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- Ahead of the flight so that they could
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- Put our pilots in harm's way
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- As they're on their way to iran.
- 00:11:50.103 --> 00:11:52.072
- But instead, they just wanna celebrate what they could see
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- As a failure by the president to keep the world safe.
- 00:11:55.342 --> 00:11:59.546
- And that's, the only person
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- They're helping is the ayatollah.
- 00:12:01.381 --> 00:12:02.816
- - but this pentagon is not going
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- To just roll over and take it.
- 00:12:05.352 --> 00:12:07.054
- They're not just going to say, "okay, fine,
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- We have people leaking, whatever, no big deal."
- 00:12:09.122 --> 00:12:11.792
- No, no, no, no, no. and steve witkoff responded to that.
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- I wanna play that just earlier. it's bite five.
- 00:12:14.094 --> 00:12:17.431
- - it goes without saying that,
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- That leaking that type of information,
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- Whatever the information,
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- Whatever site it comes out on is outrageous.
- 00:12:22.436 --> 00:12:24.905
- It's treasonous, so it ought to be investigated
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- And whoever did it, whoever's responsible for it
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- Should be held accountable.
- 00:12:31.478 --> 00:12:33.413
- It could hurt lives in the future
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- If there's, leaking is a unacceptable thing.
- 00:12:35.883 --> 00:12:39.319
- - all right.
- 00:12:39.319 --> 00:12:40.787
- I also wanna, that was obviously from steve witkoff.
- 00:12:40.787 --> 00:12:42.122
- I want to kick it over to a phone call
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- Because we have one calling in about this.
- 00:12:43.724 --> 00:12:44.992
- Scott though is watching on youtube in oklahoma.
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- Scott, go ahead. - good.
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- Okay, so i do agree it's disrespectful
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- To our men and women in uniform
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- That carried out the mission.
- 00:12:53.800 --> 00:12:57.104
- I just wanted to say that i don't see any reason
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- To get worked up about it right now.
- 00:13:01.475 --> 00:13:04.878
- Let an investigation happen, we'll find out the truth.
- 00:13:04.878 --> 00:13:08.548
- And i'm kind of glad that the liberal media outlets
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- Are running with this
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- Because once again, give 'em enough rope,
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- They'll hang themselves and lose again.
- 00:13:17.057 --> 00:13:20.527
- - thanks scott, i think what the biggest issue
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- With it also is just how much
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- They have made about classified documents in the past.
- 00:13:26.333 --> 00:13:29.536
- The president trying to have him put in jail,
- 00:13:29.536 --> 00:13:33.573
- President trump over retaining documents from his presidency
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- And now, but they are freely able
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- To do something in an early assessment
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- When a ceasefire is very fragile,
- 00:13:43.951 --> 00:13:46.286
- That could embolden the mullahs and ayatollahs
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- And have real consequences
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- For our men and women in uniform in the region.
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- It doesn't help the national security,
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- It doesn't help the lives of americans.
- 00:13:55.662 --> 00:13:57.798
- When an assessment like this,
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- Which is selectively reported,
- 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:02.202
- Is leaked by someone that works for the pentagon,
- 00:14:02.202 --> 00:14:04.604
- Is what it appears
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- And given to the press and they are able to run with it.
- 00:14:06.273 --> 00:14:08.976
- And it damages the reputation of the united states.
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- It damages the safety of the united states
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- And of our men and women in uniform.
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- So, i understand where you're coming from
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- And yes, an investigation will be done
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- And hopefully the leaker is found and held accountable
- 00:14:20.187 --> 00:14:22.556
- Because going forward, that also can't be the pattern.
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- It can't be that the deep state
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- Selectively gives information to the press
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- In order to harm the interest of the united states.
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- That's why we're worked up about it.
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- Welcome back to "sekulow."
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- We are now going live to aclj jerusalem head, jeff ballabon.
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- And i think it's important though
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- For people to hear what's going on on the ground.
- 00:14:52.172 --> 00:14:54.574
- As of course we are headed out of a,
- 00:14:54.574 --> 00:14:57.277
- What was a pretty historic weekend.
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- We haven't been able to talk to you just yet since.
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- So, just give us your assessment of how it's feeling.
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- - yeah, it's a lot to cover in a short amount of time.
- 00:15:05.485 --> 00:15:08.855
- The most obvious is it's the first night
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- Since this war started that there weren't sirens
- 00:15:10.790 --> 00:15:15.195
- Going off in the middle of the night.
- 00:15:15.195 --> 00:15:16.863
- So, that's a night of peaceful sleep, which is,
- 00:15:16.863 --> 00:15:19.866
- But i'm not saying for me personally,
- 00:15:19.866 --> 00:15:21.568
- I'm saying for the whole country.
- 00:15:21.568 --> 00:15:23.069
- Now, of course there is a war going on still in gaza.
- 00:15:23.069 --> 00:15:26.239
- And even what you've been talking about now in the air
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- About what damage was done, how much was done,
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- There's a lot of speculation.
- 00:15:33.446 --> 00:15:35.115
- People are curious, but only those who know, really know.
- 00:15:35.115 --> 00:15:39.018
- And you know, it's reasonable to assume
- 00:15:39.018 --> 00:15:42.555
- That both president trump and prime minister netanyahu
- 00:15:42.555 --> 00:15:45.925
- Would be hard pressed to make such bold claims
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- If there weren't something to back it up.
- 00:15:48.862 --> 00:15:51.097
- Now again, we still don't know
- 00:15:51.097 --> 00:15:52.465
- The full extent of the damage,
- 00:15:52.465 --> 00:15:54.134
- Obviously everyone here is very curious.
- 00:15:54.134 --> 00:15:55.802
- And then the next, moving on to the next
- 00:15:55.802 --> 00:15:57.237
- Level of question is, what does this mean
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- In terms of iran and the regime?
- 00:15:59.973 --> 00:16:01.508
- And i know regime changes the word
- 00:16:01.508 --> 00:16:03.209
- That a lot of people in america don't want to hear,
- 00:16:03.209 --> 00:16:05.445
- But the truth is, the nuclear problem was the manifestation,
- 00:16:05.445 --> 00:16:10.116
- The symptom of a much deeper problem,
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- Which is just a terrible regime
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- That oppresses its own people and exports terror and murder
- 00:16:13.319 --> 00:16:17.056
- Around the world, hates america, hates israel.
- 00:16:17.056 --> 00:16:19.526
- And the question is, have they been weakened enough
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- That they don't matter anymore
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- Or will the people rise up and replace them?
- 00:16:22.929 --> 00:16:25.565
- And people here are very curious
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- To know what's gonna happen.
- 00:16:26.699 --> 00:16:27.901
- And again, i'll remind you,
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- That there's still a war going on in gaza.
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- There are still hostages alive and dead
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- That these people in this country
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- Really want back desperately.
- 00:16:34.507 --> 00:16:36.309
- - well, and jeff, that is kind of the little bit
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- Of the difference between the us foreign policy
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- At this point and the israeli foreign policy.
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- Because iran, with the ayatollah in place,
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- And as long as it is the islamic republic of iran,
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- It will be an existential threat to israel
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- Because their entire foundation is premised
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- On a theology which requires them
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- To seek the destruction of israel
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- And also the united states.
- 00:17:08.141 --> 00:17:10.310
- So, while the existential threat to america
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- May be severely depleted through these strikes,
- 00:17:15.181 --> 00:17:18.685
- There is going to be a friction point between us agenda
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- And israeli agenda at this point
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- As long as there is that regime.
- 00:17:25.058 --> 00:17:27.126
- And how do you see that playing out?
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- Obviously all speculation, but over the next months
- 00:17:29.629 --> 00:17:33.066
- And as we see more intelligence coming out
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- About actually did occur.
- 00:17:35.868 --> 00:17:37.971
- - so, first of all, i will say this,
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- I should have also led with this.
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- The amount of love really for president trump
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- And the fact that he called that shot
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- To allow the bunker busters and the b2 bombers
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- To go and deliver them, which something that israel
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- Obviously has the intelligence
- 00:17:53.686 --> 00:17:56.189
- And the ability to make those moves,
- 00:17:56.189 --> 00:17:58.658
- But simply did not have the armaments, the weaponry.
- 00:17:58.658 --> 00:18:01.694
- The fact that america made the call to do it
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- Is something that israel loves, respects,
- 00:18:03.429 --> 00:18:06.432
- And they understand they've never had
- 00:18:06.432 --> 00:18:07.634
- A friend like this anywhere on earth.
- 00:18:07.634 --> 00:18:09.135
- And that is something very important
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- To the people of israel.
- 00:18:10.503 --> 00:18:12.105
- And there's always drama and there's personality clashes.
- 00:18:12.105 --> 00:18:15.575
- And there, you know, there's also trump is very performative
- 00:18:15.575 --> 00:18:18.578
- And it's never clear if he means exactly what he's saying
- 00:18:18.578 --> 00:18:20.780
- Or he is trying to present an image
- 00:18:20.780 --> 00:18:22.749
- Because he has something going on behind closed doors.
- 00:18:22.749 --> 00:18:24.717
- No one knows.
- 00:18:24.717 --> 00:18:26.252
- We do know is that donald trump has just acted in a way
- 00:18:26.252 --> 00:18:27.687
- That is amazingly important for the state of israel,
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- For the jewish people.
- 00:18:30.189 --> 00:18:31.324
- But to your point, the fact is that
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- The islamic regime with nukes
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- Do represented a major threat to america,
- 00:18:37.230 --> 00:18:39.832
- Not just through its proxies
- 00:18:39.832 --> 00:18:41.234
- That still exist across america,
- 00:18:41.234 --> 00:18:42.735
- But because the ability to deliver a nuclear device,
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- Even with a dirty bomb, let alone an icbm
- 00:18:45.872 --> 00:18:48.308
- To impact america's grid is a national crisis
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- That could bring down the entire country.
- 00:18:52.011 --> 00:18:53.713
- And so it has been absolutely
- 00:18:53.713 --> 00:18:55.481
- In america's interest to do this.
- 00:18:55.481 --> 00:18:57.216
- President trump made this part of what he ran on both times.
- 00:18:57.216 --> 00:19:00.420
- And by the way, senator, a lot of presidents,
- 00:19:00.420 --> 00:19:02.388
- He's the only one who actually did it.
- 00:19:02.388 --> 00:19:03.956
- And so, the truth is there's not such a difference
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- In needs and goals.
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- There may be a difference in politics
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- Between the two countries. - exactly.
- 00:19:10.063 --> 00:19:12.231
- And i think president trump, like you said,
- 00:19:12.231 --> 00:19:14.467
- Ran on this and look, so did you look at videos
- 00:19:14.467 --> 00:19:17.203
- Of kamala harris saying,
- 00:19:17.203 --> 00:19:18.638
- "who's the number one threat to america right now?"
- 00:19:18.638 --> 00:19:20.206
- And she very quickly said, "iran."
- 00:19:20.206 --> 00:19:22.875
- I think that she's like, it wasn't even a question,
- 00:19:22.875 --> 00:19:25.144
- But of course now you have to have some sort of spin
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- Because president trump did it
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- And they have to come up with a reason why this is bad,
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- A reason why this didn't.
- 00:19:31.851 --> 00:19:33.453
- And jeff, i know you worked in news for a long time as well,
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- But when you see this and we know that hey,
- 00:19:35.288 --> 00:19:37.323
- A leaked document came out and that leaked document said,
- 00:19:37.323 --> 00:19:39.959
- "hey, maybe it wasn't as damaging as we thought."
- 00:19:39.959 --> 00:19:43.196
- Sure, the news can report on information that they get
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- And all of that, but that only is benefiting
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- To create this sort of doubt
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- That feels like it's only benefiting
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- Iran in this conversation.
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- Why? not only, not just why you report it.
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- Again, i kinda understand if you're giving information
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- Why you're reporting it,
- 00:19:59.545 --> 00:20:00.947
- But the leaker themselves is doing this
- 00:20:00.947 --> 00:20:03.616
- Because clearly they have a personal issue
- 00:20:03.616 --> 00:20:06.619
- Or vendetta against this administration
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- And probably the support of israel overall.
- 00:20:09.322 --> 00:20:12.859
- - oh yeah, i couldn't agree more.
- 00:20:12.859 --> 00:20:15.161
- The media have played a horrific role
- 00:20:15.161 --> 00:20:17.397
- Throughout this entire process spreading all kinds of rumors
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- And allegations and misinformation using
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- Literal hamas terrorist sources
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- As though it were accurate news.
- 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.343
- But when israel said something that was demonstrably true,
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- They would challenge it.
- 00:20:32.745 --> 00:20:34.147
- The media really, there was just testimony yesterday
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- On capitol hill about this,
- 00:20:36.349 --> 00:20:37.683
- The media really have been stoking the fires
- 00:20:37.683 --> 00:20:40.720
- Not just of anti-trump and really of anti-america
- 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:43.890
- And anti-semitism and the media's doing this.
- 00:20:43.890 --> 00:20:46.459
- And yes, i've worked in the news for many, many years
- 00:20:46.459 --> 00:20:48.461
- And it's really, it's tragic and painful to see it.
- 00:20:48.461 --> 00:20:50.663
- And remember, donald trump, when he ran on it,
- 00:20:50.663 --> 00:20:52.632
- He talked about media being the enemy of the people.
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- And this is an example of that. it really is.
- 00:20:54.934 --> 00:20:57.103
- Now, i mean that said,
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- We do wanna know how much it was damaged,
- 00:20:59.439 --> 00:21:01.407
- But it's important to point out this is the same media types
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- Who are challenging what damage was done
- 00:21:03.910 --> 00:21:06.045
- And saying, you know, "not so much damage done,
- 00:21:06.045 --> 00:21:07.780
- Maybe they're not swift."
- 00:21:07.780 --> 00:21:09.048
- Who a minute ago were arguing that iran
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- Doesn't really have nuclear weapon emissions
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- And it's too far away to even have it.
- 00:21:13.085 --> 00:21:15.021
- All of a sudden they've completely flipped the narrative
- 00:21:15.021 --> 00:21:16.989
- As if they weren't making that argument
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- Until a hot second ago
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- Until donald trump allowed the bombers.
- 00:21:20.460 --> 00:21:24.297
- - jeff, i also want to get into some of the,
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- You are there still working,
- 00:21:27.834 --> 00:21:29.368
- Even though you have been under a lot of alerts,
- 00:21:29.368 --> 00:21:32.905
- A lot of sheltering in place
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- As the war played out for those 12 days.
- 00:21:35.541 --> 00:21:39.512
- But, can you talk about also yesterday
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- We did try to connect with you,
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- Just some of the other things
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- That you were able to do while you're there,
- 00:21:45.418 --> 00:21:47.954
- And especially now that you can kind of
- 00:21:47.954 --> 00:21:50.690
- Get back to work some since there aren't
- 00:21:50.690 --> 00:21:53.659
- The threat of incoming hypersonic missiles.
- 00:21:53.659 --> 00:21:57.530
- - sure.
- 00:21:57.763 --> 00:21:59.298
- So, yesterday, for the first time since the war started,
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- Was able to get together with a group of people
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- That we at the aclj jerusalem,
- 00:22:04.537 --> 00:22:06.706
- But even our offices in washington have been,
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- You know, working closely with for many years
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- In terms of policy,
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- In terms of american policy, that antisemitism.
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- I mean these are people who are either americans
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- Who happened to be here now
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- Or some israelis who were stuck overseas
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- And were just able to get back in.
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- And so it was the first day
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- That we were actually able to meet in person,
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- Partially because, not so much the lockdowns
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- Because people were stranded overseas
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- Trying to get back into israel
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- And they were able to get back in
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- And we were finally able to meet.
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- And this is all about a lot of global policy issues
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- That we work on relating to
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- Fighting antisemitism in america,
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- Fighting bds across the various states,
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- New laws that are coming up
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- And some that are gonna be signed soon
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- That are not yet public,
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- That are very supportive things we care about
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- In various states in the united states.
- 00:22:56.055 --> 00:22:57.590
- But again, it's been hard.
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- Everyone's been caring for their family
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- And people have been trying to struggle
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- To get in from the country.
- 00:23:01.394 --> 00:23:02.695
- And some people here are trying to struggle
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- Through their days and this really represented
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- The first time they were all able to have
- 00:23:05.431 --> 00:23:06.832
- Sort of a mini summit of about 15 of us to talk about
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- Where things are in all the work that we work on constantly.
- 00:23:10.570 --> 00:23:14.106
- And again, this, it crosses, it's law,
- 00:23:14.106 --> 00:23:17.510
- It's academics, it's policy,
- 00:23:17.510 --> 00:23:19.579
- It's everything aclj works on all at once.
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- And we were able to thank god, have a meeting
- 00:23:23.249 --> 00:23:24.817
- And also celebrate the success of these actions
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- And the fact that we're all alive and everyone's well.
- 00:23:28.054 --> 00:23:30.256
- - yes, exactly jeff.
- 00:23:30.256 --> 00:23:31.557
- And we're so thrilled that you're still there.
- 00:23:31.557 --> 00:23:32.792
- I mean you mentioned bds,
- 00:23:32.792 --> 00:23:34.193
- It almost, bds almost feels like a thing of the past
- 00:23:34.193 --> 00:23:36.529
- Because of how hard we've had to now work on so many other,
- 00:23:36.529 --> 00:23:40.466
- That was like, you know, the little antisemitism
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- That you felt like was coming
- 00:23:42.768 --> 00:23:44.203
- Compared to what's happened in the last few years.
- 00:23:44.203 --> 00:23:45.938
- It was one of our top topics,
- 00:23:45.938 --> 00:23:47.740
- But now it's like clear and present for most people.
- 00:23:47.740 --> 00:23:50.109
- It was not like, oh, you know, we're
- 00:23:50.109 --> 00:23:52.511
- Ben and jerry's won't sell ice cream in israel anymore.
- 00:23:52.511 --> 00:23:54.947
- It's like, compared to what we've dealt with now,
- 00:23:54.947 --> 00:23:58.351
- But it's still happening,
- 00:23:58.351 --> 00:23:59.885
- We need to make sure those issues are still being raised.
- 00:23:59.885 --> 00:24:02.822
- It just feels like a lifetime ago.
- 00:24:02.822 --> 00:24:04.924
- - and jews, it's still demonizing israel and jews.
- 00:24:04.924 --> 00:24:06.792
- Life is still miserable for jews
- 00:24:06.792 --> 00:24:08.427
- In universities in america.
- 00:24:08.427 --> 00:24:10.162
- There's a whole bunch of issues that have to get resolved
- 00:24:10.162 --> 00:24:11.864
- And they were not made better just now.
- 00:24:11.864 --> 00:24:13.466
- They just, both sides just ratcheted up their rhetoric.
- 00:24:13.466 --> 00:24:16.402
- - all right, let's go to alex who's calling.
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- Listening on siriusxm. alex, you're on the air.
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- - [alex] hi guys, thanks for doing a great job.
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- And i wanna emphasize something
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- That i think is extremely important
- 00:24:26.245 --> 00:24:28.314
- That we should all be doing right now
- 00:24:28.314 --> 00:24:29.949
- And that is praying for our president.
- 00:24:29.949 --> 00:24:32.852
- The man is doing a great job.
- 00:24:33.486 --> 00:24:35.921
- That doesn't mean he doesn't feel the stresses of the job.
- 00:24:35.921 --> 00:24:39.225
- We've seen him go through a lot
- 00:24:39.225 --> 00:24:41.394
- And he's fighting very hard
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- For what's in the best interest of america and israel
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- And i believe all around the world in a unique respect.
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- So, prayers to the president and his staff and i believe,
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- And hats off to the men who flew the planes
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- And bombed the sites.
- 00:25:00.579 --> 00:25:02.348
- Great job to the military, just awesome.
- 00:25:02.348 --> 00:25:07.119
- I wanna make a very good point to you
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- And i'm gonna do it very quickly.
- 00:25:08.788 --> 00:25:10.790
- When you believe that there is a threat, you act, okay.
- 00:25:10.790 --> 00:25:16.095
- Now, in respects to the behavior of the iranians,
- 00:25:17.096 --> 00:25:20.599
- I don't know how true these reports are,
- 00:25:21.467 --> 00:25:23.502
- But in the nature of what we're seeing in the general public
- 00:25:23.502 --> 00:25:26.105
- About all the trucks that were outside the fordo site,
- 00:25:26.105 --> 00:25:30.443
- Okay, what is their actions saying
- 00:25:30.443 --> 00:25:34.013
- About all those trucks being there before the bombing?
- 00:25:34.013 --> 00:25:37.750
- They believe that that site is impregnable.
- 00:25:37.750 --> 00:25:41.787
- They believe that that site could be penetrated,
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- Could be bombed, could be destroyed.
- 00:25:45.224 --> 00:25:47.359
- No doubt in my mind, with consideration to their behavior.
- 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.731
- And they knew, they firmly believed
- 00:25:51.731 --> 00:25:53.632
- They were gonna be bombed.
- 00:25:53.632 --> 00:25:55.201
- - i think they didn't think president trump was bluffing.
- 00:25:55.201 --> 00:25:57.603
- But i think also what you say, it goes back to
- 00:25:57.603 --> 00:26:00.272
- The actions of the president were not just washington talk,
- 00:26:00.272 --> 00:26:04.810
- It wasn't the red line that obama gave the syrians
- 00:26:04.810 --> 00:26:09.014
- That "hey, if you use chemical weapons,
- 00:26:09.014 --> 00:26:11.450
- That's a red line and then we're gonna bomb you."
- 00:26:11.450 --> 00:26:13.853
- And then they crossed the red line
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- And they did nothing about it.
- 00:26:15.688 --> 00:26:17.656
- You have to, if you're gonna lead with strength,
- 00:26:17.656 --> 00:26:20.659
- You have to back up your words with the actions.
- 00:26:20.659 --> 00:26:23.129
- And that's what he gave them.
- 00:26:23.129 --> 00:26:24.563
- He gave them a timeline, then he let israel go forward
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- And then he dropped bombs.
- 00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:28.768
- And that is real leadership.
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