Jay Sekulow - Intel Leak After Successful Mission

July 9, 2025 | 29:45

Jay Sekulow speaks about the protection of religious freedoms in America.

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  • (empowering music)
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  • - well, you could have expected this to happen.
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  • Of course, the new york times, cnn,
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  • And all of your favorite sources are now saying,
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  • "you know that incredible military strike
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  • That our brave team was able to go in,
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  • Get it done, and get out
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  • Before even anyone knew it happened.
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  • Hmm, not good enough. not good enough."
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  • And of course, that reporting
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  • Came out of some leaked documents.
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  • And of course, we still are dealing with the fact
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  • That there are leaked documents.
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  • Leaking is still happening.
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  • But thankfully now, we have a group
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  • That is in there right now in the pentagon saying,
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  • "hey, if you're gonna be leaking
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  • These top high-end security, you know, details,
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  • Number one, it's treasonous."
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  • Again, those are their words, "it's treasonous.
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  • And also, we're gonna do an investigation.
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  • We're gonna figure out how you got this info,"
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  • Because really, who does it benefit?
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  • Who does it benefit to show this analysis?
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  • And the analysis, of course,
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  • They said was not necessarily 100%
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  • Wasn't necessarily accurate.
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  • They did say that it was leaked saying that,
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  • Yes, it pushed 'em back probably months.
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  • Maybe it didn't push them back years
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  • Or completely decimate these facilities.
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  • But it's also not anything
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  • That's been 100% proven by any means.
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  • But the only person,
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  • Or the only group that this emboldens
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  • Is the enemy at this point.
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  • - that's right, logan.
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  • We now have confirmation
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  • That the deep state isn't just alive and well,
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  • But it's playing politics with war, with our troops now.
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  • And so who does the deep state go to
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  • When they want to subvert the agenda of president trump
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  • Or even the successes of our military?
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  • They go to natasha bertrand,
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  • Who is cnn's deep state correspondent.
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  • Remember she is the one that got the exclusive
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  • About the 51 former intelligence individuals
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  • That were coming out saying,
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  • "hey, this hunter biden laptop,
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  • It's russian disinformation."
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  • So she ran with that, that was her big scoop.
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  • And now her big scoop for cnn
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  • Is that there's an intelligence report
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  • From the defense intelligence agency
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  • That by the way, has low level confidence.
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  • And- - what does that mean?
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  • I want people
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  • To understand that. - that means that this is just
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  • A very preliminary assessment.
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  • They haven't been able to really get in there
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  • And see what has gone on.
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  • But the low level confidence,
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  • Top secret intelligence report
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  • That was leaked to cnn said that
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  • It appears that their capacity to build a nuclear weapon
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  • Is moved back by a matter of months.
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  • So that is now the headline that you're seeing
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  • People like erin burnett on cnn running with,
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  • After their reporter, natasha bertrand went with it.
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  • The new york times.
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  • - what to celebrate- - they're all taking it.
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  • They're celebrating this like there's
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  • Egg on the president's face when in reality our soldiers,
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  • Our troops, our pilots went over there
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  • And had a perilous mission, did it,
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  • And now they're celebrating it.
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  • - yeah, they're celebrating
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  • What they think could be a not 100% successful mission.
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  • Well, you know what we know also about this president?
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  • Guess what? it's not 100% successful.
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  • You know what's gonna happen.
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  • We'll send a couple more over there.
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  • We'll see what happens. okay.
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  • Right now, there's quiet.
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  • Has anything happened really overnight? no.
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  • Did that ceasefire stick the first time? no.
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  • But did it stick that second time? it sure seems like it.
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  • 'cause we have an administration that actually cares.
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  • Do i like that these kind of things leak? no, i do not.
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  • I think that this is very damaging to a lot of people
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  • And to really, it's to our safety and our security.
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  • We gotta figure this part out.
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  • And i'm glad the pete,
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  • And some of the other groups there, i mean, look,
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  • They were able to accomplish the mission
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  • Without anything leaking.
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  • They were able to do the unthinkable,
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  • Send, you know, planes from missouri to iran and back
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  • Without any of us knowing.
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  • Not even the news was reporting
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  • That there was explosions that happened.
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  • It was done before anyone knew.
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  • But how dare they have a successful mission?
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  • We're gonna try to put egg on their face
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  • And then try to smirch the name of our us military.
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  • It's disgusting. i hate it.
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  • (soft music)
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  • (empowering music)
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  • We're talking about the intelligence leak that happened.
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  • You may have seen saying that, "hey,
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  • They didn't fully destroy these nuke facilities,
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  • But they bumped them back just a matter of months."
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  • Which again, to me is still bumping back
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  • What was a almost nuke threat by a matter of months,
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  • It's still a success.
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  • But they're saying of course, that's not even accurate.
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  • But that is coming from a low level leaker.
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  • And right now the pentagon is going to investigate
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  • How this happened
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  • 'cause this should not still be happening.
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  • Like will said, it feels like the deep state
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  • Can be alive and well right now
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  • If it comes to any sort of success
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  • That may happen under a trump administration.
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  • Now, i do think we should give some time to president trump.
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  • Give some time to cnn so you can hear
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  • What they had to say and maybe some others.
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  • Will, where do you wanna go first?
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  • - well, let's first lay out what happened.
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  • This was natasha bertand who is infamous for
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  • Russia gate reporting with business insider.
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  • And then she got a promotion within the world
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  • Of anti-trump journalists and joined cnn.
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  • And then she famously got the scoop
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  • About the 51 intel members that lied
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  • About the hunter biden laptop
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  • To try to give cover for president biden's election in 2020.
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  • And now she has a new scoop.
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  • And this is the headline;
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  • "exclusive, early us intel assessment suggests
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  • Strikes on iran did not destroy nuclear sites," sources say.
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  • What is so troubling here on many layers,
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  • Is that remember how pete hegseth
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  • And the entire team early on,
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  • Because of the incidental adding of jeffrey goldberg
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  • To their signal chat put national security at risk.
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  • So many people were at risk,
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  • And just the fact of our secrets being not protected.
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  • Now we have cnn running with a story
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  • That was leaked to them.
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  • - so happy to do it. - in the aftermath
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  • Of a successful bombing campaign in iran
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  • That is trying to push a different narrative
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  • Than what the president has said.
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  • And honestly, it's a low, low confidence assessment.
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  • It's very early, but-
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  • - well, they're breathing a sigh relief
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  • Because actually it's something they can report on
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  • That their audience hopefully will like.
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  • That's the problem is they've been, you know,
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  • Having to cover a story that has been kind of celebrated
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  • Over even from a lot of democrats.
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  • And they don't like that, it doesn't fit the narrative.
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  • So, what are we gonna do?
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  • We're gonna get someone we know,
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  • A low level person in the pentagon to leak us in a document
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  • That says, "oh, it was a success.
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  • Just maybe not as big of a success as we thought."
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  • - and the fact that they are so excited
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  • And wanting to push this.
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  • And you even saw aaron burnett, who a few weeks ago,
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  • Maybe just before the attack,
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  • Said that iran was years away from a nuclear bomb.
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  • Now, joyfully reporting, look,
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  • It's only pushed back their program a couple of months,
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  • Trying to have it both ways.
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  • They're excited about this
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  • Instead of calling this out, what is this?
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  • A national security risk, this leak.
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  • This is someone who decided to leak something
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  • For political purposes
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  • And the only person it helps other than maybe
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  • A bump in viewership at cnn
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  • And msnbc is the ayatollah of iran.
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  • It's a pr win for the iranians.
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  • Regardless of what the assessment says,
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  • The only person it helps
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  • Is the iranian mullahs and ayatollah.
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  • - i think we should, you know, give them their due.
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  • You probably want to hear from 'em.
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  • So, maybe we'll hear from bertrand,
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  • Hear a little bit from cnn.
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  • Where do you want, where do you wanna start with?
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  • - sure, you can.
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  • This is natasha bertrand reporting on the story.
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  • This is byte 10.
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  • - this is the first assessment that we are getting
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  • That the us intelligence community has found
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  • About the battle damage that was,
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  • That resulted from those us military strikes
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  • On these three iranian nuclear facilities over the weekend.
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  • And as you said, it was produced
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  • By the defense intelligence agency,
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  • Which is the pentagon's intelligence arm.
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  • And it is worth noting that it is a very early assessment.
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  • The strikes were only a matter of days ago
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  • And the intelligence community
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  • Is still gathering intelligence.
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  • They're still working to come up
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  • With a full comprehensive picture
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  • Of what exactly happened here.
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  • But based on a battle damage assessment
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  • That was carried out by us central command,
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  • Essentially looking at the images
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  • And looking at what was actually damaged.
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  • The defense intelligence agency has assessed
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  • That the core components of iran's nuclear program
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  • Are largely intact and that iran's nuclear program
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  • Has essentially only been set back by months.
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  • - all right, so that is cnn's point of view, again,
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  • Coming from leaked documents, low level documents.
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  • Again, she caveats it a little by saying,
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  • "you know, this is just early assessments.
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  • We don't really know, we haven't really been able
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  • To go take a look at all the battle damage."
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  • This is maybe from looking at, i guess,
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  • Satellite imagery of what happened here.
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  • And look, i'm not saying necessarily they're wrong,
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  • Because there, now president trump
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  • And a lot of them have said they're wrong.
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  • But the idea that you would get this document,
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  • You would push to get it,
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  • And then you would report on something that, again,
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  • Only benefits a very big threat to the united states.
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  • I don't understand, other than just putting president trump,
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  • Making him look somehow a little bit
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  • Less honest, i guess, than they want,
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  • 'cause he said it was a massive success.
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  • But let's hear from president trump as well talking,
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  • And then kaitlan collins.
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  • - oh, fake news cnn.
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  • Oh yeah, yeah. here we go.
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  • Wait till you hear this question.
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  • - thank you, sir. - you should really say
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  • How great our soldiers and our warriors are.
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  • - i think everyone appreciates
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  • Our soldiers and our warriors.
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  • I do have two questions for you, mr. president.
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  • You just cited israeli intelligence on these attacks.
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  • Earlier you said us intelligence was inconclusive.
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  • Are you relying on israeli intelligence for your assessment
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  • Of the impact of the strikes? - no. no.
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  • No, this is also, iran made the statement
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  • And it's also, if you read the document that was given
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  • That pete can talk about if you'd like,
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  • The document said it could be very severe damage,
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  • But they didn't take that.
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  • They said it could be limited or it could be very severe.
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  • They really didn't know other than to say
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  • It could be limited or it could be very, very severe.
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  • And you didn't choose to put that
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  • Because it was very early after.
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  • Since then, we've collected additional intelligence.
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  • We've also spoken to people who have seen the site
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  • And the site is obliterated
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  • And we think everything nuclear is down there.
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  • They didn't take it out.
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  • - when you hear the president there, one,
  • 00:10:55.883 --> 00:10:58.318
  • Also pointing out as cnn likes to do that.
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  • And you could tell that natasha bertand,
  • 00:11:01.021 --> 00:11:02.956
  • Even in that report had clearly seen the whole document.
  • 00:11:02.956 --> 00:11:06.226
  • - yeah. - she knew a lot of details
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  • And ins and outs.
  • 00:11:07.861 --> 00:11:09.263
  • But that is selective reporting in the headline,
  • 00:11:09.263 --> 00:11:12.599
  • The splashy headline that they wanted was that
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  • The assessment suggests strikes on iran
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  • Did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say.
  • 00:11:18.305 --> 00:11:21.141
  • They are using anonymous leakers
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  • That are dangerous to the united states national security.
  • 00:11:23.243 --> 00:11:27.181
  • They are trying to undermine the mission
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  • Of our military and of the president.
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  • They should be celebrating that everyone was safe,
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  • That it struck a military target
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  • And that it wasn't leaked beforehand,
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  • Even though they are probably upset
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  • That their deep state sources didn't give them a tip off
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  • Ahead of the flight so that they could
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  • Put our pilots in harm's way
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  • As they're on their way to iran.
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  • But instead, they just wanna celebrate what they could see
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  • As a failure by the president to keep the world safe.
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  • And that's, the only person
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  • They're helping is the ayatollah.
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  • - but this pentagon is not going
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  • To just roll over and take it.
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  • They're not just going to say, "okay, fine,
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  • We have people leaking, whatever, no big deal."
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  • No, no, no, no, no. and steve witkoff responded to that.
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  • I wanna play that just earlier. it's bite five.
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  • - it goes without saying that,
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  • That leaking that type of information,
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  • Whatever the information,
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  • Whatever site it comes out on is outrageous.
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  • It's treasonous, so it ought to be investigated
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  • And whoever did it, whoever's responsible for it
  • 00:12:28.475 --> 00:12:31.478
  • Should be held accountable.
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  • It could hurt lives in the future
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  • If there's, leaking is a unacceptable thing.
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  • - all right.
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  • I also wanna, that was obviously from steve witkoff.
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  • I want to kick it over to a phone call
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  • Because we have one calling in about this.
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  • Scott though is watching on youtube in oklahoma.
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  • Scott, go ahead. - good.
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  • Okay, so i do agree it's disrespectful
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  • To our men and women in uniform
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  • That carried out the mission.
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  • I just wanted to say that i don't see any reason
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  • To get worked up about it right now.
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  • Let an investigation happen, we'll find out the truth.
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  • And i'm kind of glad that the liberal media outlets
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  • Are running with this
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  • Because once again, give 'em enough rope,
  • 00:13:13.921 --> 00:13:17.057
  • They'll hang themselves and lose again.
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  • - thanks scott, i think what the biggest issue
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  • With it also is just how much
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  • They have made about classified documents in the past.
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  • The president trying to have him put in jail,
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  • President trump over retaining documents from his presidency
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  • And now, but they are freely able
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  • To do something in an early assessment
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  • When a ceasefire is very fragile,
  • 00:13:43.951 --> 00:13:46.286
  • That could embolden the mullahs and ayatollahs
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  • And have real consequences
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  • For our men and women in uniform in the region.
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  • It doesn't help the national security,
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  • It doesn't help the lives of americans.
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  • When an assessment like this,
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  • Which is selectively reported,
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  • Is leaked by someone that works for the pentagon,
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  • Is what it appears
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  • And given to the press and they are able to run with it.
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  • And it damages the reputation of the united states.
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  • It damages the safety of the united states
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  • And of our men and women in uniform.
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  • So, i understand where you're coming from
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  • And yes, an investigation will be done
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  • And hopefully the leaker is found and held accountable
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  • Because going forward, that also can't be the pattern.
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  • It can't be that the deep state
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  • Selectively gives information to the press
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  • In order to harm the interest of the united states.
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  • That's why we're worked up about it.
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  • Welcome back to "sekulow."
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  • We are now going live to aclj jerusalem head, jeff ballabon.
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  • And i think it's important though
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  • For people to hear what's going on on the ground.
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  • As of course we are headed out of a,
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  • What was a pretty historic weekend.
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  • We haven't been able to talk to you just yet since.
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  • So, just give us your assessment of how it's feeling.
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  • - yeah, it's a lot to cover in a short amount of time.
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  • The most obvious is it's the first night
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  • Since this war started that there weren't sirens
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  • Going off in the middle of the night.
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  • So, that's a night of peaceful sleep, which is,
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  • But i'm not saying for me personally,
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  • I'm saying for the whole country.
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  • Now, of course there is a war going on still in gaza.
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  • And even what you've been talking about now in the air
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  • About what damage was done, how much was done,
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  • There's a lot of speculation.
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  • People are curious, but only those who know, really know.
  • 00:15:35.115 --> 00:15:39.018
  • And you know, it's reasonable to assume
  • 00:15:39.018 --> 00:15:42.555
  • That both president trump and prime minister netanyahu
  • 00:15:42.555 --> 00:15:45.925
  • Would be hard pressed to make such bold claims
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  • If there weren't something to back it up.
  • 00:15:48.862 --> 00:15:51.097
  • Now again, we still don't know
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  • The full extent of the damage,
  • 00:15:52.465 --> 00:15:54.134
  • Obviously everyone here is very curious.
  • 00:15:54.134 --> 00:15:55.802
  • And then the next, moving on to the next
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  • Level of question is, what does this mean
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  • In terms of iran and the regime?
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  • And i know regime changes the word
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  • That a lot of people in america don't want to hear,
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  • But the truth is, the nuclear problem was the manifestation,
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  • The symptom of a much deeper problem,
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  • Which is just a terrible regime
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  • That oppresses its own people and exports terror and murder
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  • Around the world, hates america, hates israel.
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  • And the question is, have they been weakened enough
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  • That they don't matter anymore
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  • Or will the people rise up and replace them?
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  • And people here are very curious
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  • To know what's gonna happen.
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  • And again, i'll remind you,
  • 00:16:27.901 --> 00:16:29.202
  • That there's still a war going on in gaza.
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  • There are still hostages alive and dead
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  • That these people in this country
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  • Really want back desperately.
  • 00:16:34.507 --> 00:16:36.309
  • - well, and jeff, that is kind of the little bit
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  • Of the difference between the us foreign policy
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  • At this point and the israeli foreign policy.
  • 00:16:43.483 --> 00:16:46.085
  • Because iran, with the ayatollah in place,
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  • And as long as it is the islamic republic of iran,
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  • It will be an existential threat to israel
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  • Because their entire foundation is premised
  • 00:16:59.032 --> 00:17:02.835
  • On a theology which requires them
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  • To seek the destruction of israel
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  • And also the united states.
  • 00:17:08.141 --> 00:17:10.310
  • So, while the existential threat to america
  • 00:17:10.310 --> 00:17:15.181
  • May be severely depleted through these strikes,
  • 00:17:15.181 --> 00:17:18.685
  • There is going to be a friction point between us agenda
  • 00:17:18.685 --> 00:17:22.956
  • And israeli agenda at this point
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  • As long as there is that regime.
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  • And how do you see that playing out?
  • 00:17:27.126 --> 00:17:29.629
  • Obviously all speculation, but over the next months
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  • And as we see more intelligence coming out
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  • About actually did occur.
  • 00:17:35.868 --> 00:17:37.971
  • - so, first of all, i will say this,
  • 00:17:37.971 --> 00:17:39.939
  • I should have also led with this.
  • 00:17:39.939 --> 00:17:42.008
  • The amount of love really for president trump
  • 00:17:42.008 --> 00:17:45.778
  • And the fact that he called that shot
  • 00:17:45.778 --> 00:17:48.248
  • To allow the bunker busters and the b2 bombers
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  • To go and deliver them, which something that israel
  • 00:17:50.583 --> 00:17:53.686
  • Obviously has the intelligence
  • 00:17:53.686 --> 00:17:56.189
  • And the ability to make those moves,
  • 00:17:56.189 --> 00:17:58.658
  • But simply did not have the armaments, the weaponry.
  • 00:17:58.658 --> 00:18:01.694
  • The fact that america made the call to do it
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  • Is something that israel loves, respects,
  • 00:18:03.429 --> 00:18:06.432
  • And they understand they've never had
  • 00:18:06.432 --> 00:18:07.634
  • A friend like this anywhere on earth.
  • 00:18:07.634 --> 00:18:09.135
  • And that is something very important
  • 00:18:09.135 --> 00:18:10.503
  • To the people of israel.
  • 00:18:10.503 --> 00:18:12.105
  • And there's always drama and there's personality clashes.
  • 00:18:12.105 --> 00:18:15.575
  • And there, you know, there's also trump is very performative
  • 00:18:15.575 --> 00:18:18.578
  • And it's never clear if he means exactly what he's saying
  • 00:18:18.578 --> 00:18:20.780
  • Or he is trying to present an image
  • 00:18:20.780 --> 00:18:22.749
  • Because he has something going on behind closed doors.
  • 00:18:22.749 --> 00:18:24.717
  • No one knows.
  • 00:18:24.717 --> 00:18:26.252
  • We do know is that donald trump has just acted in a way
  • 00:18:26.252 --> 00:18:27.687
  • That is amazingly important for the state of israel,
  • 00:18:27.687 --> 00:18:30.189
  • For the jewish people.
  • 00:18:30.189 --> 00:18:31.324
  • But to your point, the fact is that
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  • The islamic regime with nukes
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  • Do represented a major threat to america,
  • 00:18:37.230 --> 00:18:39.832
  • Not just through its proxies
  • 00:18:39.832 --> 00:18:41.234
  • That still exist across america,
  • 00:18:41.234 --> 00:18:42.735
  • But because the ability to deliver a nuclear device,
  • 00:18:42.735 --> 00:18:45.872
  • Even with a dirty bomb, let alone an icbm
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  • To impact america's grid is a national crisis
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  • That could bring down the entire country.
  • 00:18:52.011 --> 00:18:53.713
  • And so it has been absolutely
  • 00:18:53.713 --> 00:18:55.481
  • In america's interest to do this.
  • 00:18:55.481 --> 00:18:57.216
  • President trump made this part of what he ran on both times.
  • 00:18:57.216 --> 00:19:00.420
  • And by the way, senator, a lot of presidents,
  • 00:19:00.420 --> 00:19:02.388
  • He's the only one who actually did it.
  • 00:19:02.388 --> 00:19:03.956
  • And so, the truth is there's not such a difference
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  • In needs and goals.
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  • There may be a difference in politics
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  • Between the two countries. - exactly.
  • 00:19:10.063 --> 00:19:12.231
  • And i think president trump, like you said,
  • 00:19:12.231 --> 00:19:14.467
  • Ran on this and look, so did you look at videos
  • 00:19:14.467 --> 00:19:17.203
  • Of kamala harris saying,
  • 00:19:17.203 --> 00:19:18.638
  • "who's the number one threat to america right now?"
  • 00:19:18.638 --> 00:19:20.206
  • And she very quickly said, "iran."
  • 00:19:20.206 --> 00:19:22.875
  • I think that she's like, it wasn't even a question,
  • 00:19:22.875 --> 00:19:25.144
  • But of course now you have to have some sort of spin
  • 00:19:25.144 --> 00:19:28.147
  • Because president trump did it
  • 00:19:28.147 --> 00:19:29.682
  • And they have to come up with a reason why this is bad,
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  • A reason why this didn't.
  • 00:19:31.851 --> 00:19:33.453
  • And jeff, i know you worked in news for a long time as well,
  • 00:19:33.453 --> 00:19:35.288
  • But when you see this and we know that hey,
  • 00:19:35.288 --> 00:19:37.323
  • A leaked document came out and that leaked document said,
  • 00:19:37.323 --> 00:19:39.959
  • "hey, maybe it wasn't as damaging as we thought."
  • 00:19:39.959 --> 00:19:43.196
  • Sure, the news can report on information that they get
  • 00:19:43.196 --> 00:19:45.898
  • And all of that, but that only is benefiting
  • 00:19:45.898 --> 00:19:48.801
  • To create this sort of doubt
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  • That feels like it's only benefiting
  • 00:19:50.837 --> 00:19:53.206
  • Iran in this conversation.
  • 00:19:53.206 --> 00:19:55.074
  • Why? not only, not just why you report it.
  • 00:19:55.074 --> 00:19:57.443
  • Again, i kinda understand if you're giving information
  • 00:19:57.443 --> 00:19:59.545
  • Why you're reporting it,
  • 00:19:59.545 --> 00:20:00.947
  • But the leaker themselves is doing this
  • 00:20:00.947 --> 00:20:03.616
  • Because clearly they have a personal issue
  • 00:20:03.616 --> 00:20:06.619
  • Or vendetta against this administration
  • 00:20:06.619 --> 00:20:09.322
  • And probably the support of israel overall.
  • 00:20:09.322 --> 00:20:12.859
  • - oh yeah, i couldn't agree more.
  • 00:20:12.859 --> 00:20:15.161
  • The media have played a horrific role
  • 00:20:15.161 --> 00:20:17.397
  • Throughout this entire process spreading all kinds of rumors
  • 00:20:17.397 --> 00:20:21.267
  • And allegations and misinformation using
  • 00:20:21.267 --> 00:20:24.070
  • Literal hamas terrorist sources
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  • As though it were accurate news.
  • 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.343
  • But when israel said something that was demonstrably true,
  • 00:20:30.343 --> 00:20:32.745
  • They would challenge it.
  • 00:20:32.745 --> 00:20:34.147
  • The media really, there was just testimony yesterday
  • 00:20:34.147 --> 00:20:36.349
  • On capitol hill about this,
  • 00:20:36.349 --> 00:20:37.683
  • The media really have been stoking the fires
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  • Not just of anti-trump and really of anti-america
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  • And anti-semitism and the media's doing this.
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  • And yes, i've worked in the news for many, many years
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  • And it's really, it's tragic and painful to see it.
  • 00:20:48.461 --> 00:20:50.663
  • And remember, donald trump, when he ran on it,
  • 00:20:50.663 --> 00:20:52.632
  • He talked about media being the enemy of the people.
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  • And this is an example of that. it really is.
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  • Now, i mean that said,
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  • We do wanna know how much it was damaged,
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  • But it's important to point out this is the same media types
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  • Who are challenging what damage was done
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  • And saying, you know, "not so much damage done,
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  • Maybe they're not swift."
  • 00:21:07.780 --> 00:21:09.048
  • Who a minute ago were arguing that iran
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  • Doesn't really have nuclear weapon emissions
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  • And it's too far away to even have it.
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  • All of a sudden they've completely flipped the narrative
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  • As if they weren't making that argument
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  • Until a hot second ago
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  • Until donald trump allowed the bombers.
  • 00:21:20.460 --> 00:21:24.297
  • - jeff, i also want to get into some of the,
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  • You are there still working,
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  • Even though you have been under a lot of alerts,
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  • A lot of sheltering in place
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  • As the war played out for those 12 days.
  • 00:21:35.541 --> 00:21:39.512
  • But, can you talk about also yesterday
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  • We did try to connect with you,
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  • Just some of the other things
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  • That you were able to do while you're there,
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  • And especially now that you can kind of
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  • Get back to work some since there aren't
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  • The threat of incoming hypersonic missiles.
  • 00:21:53.659 --> 00:21:57.530
  • - sure.
  • 00:21:57.763 --> 00:21:59.298
  • So, yesterday, for the first time since the war started,
  • 00:21:59.298 --> 00:22:02.502
  • Was able to get together with a group of people
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  • That we at the aclj jerusalem,
  • 00:22:04.537 --> 00:22:06.706
  • But even our offices in washington have been,
  • 00:22:06.706 --> 00:22:09.609
  • You know, working closely with for many years
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  • In terms of policy,
  • 00:22:13.212 --> 00:22:14.580
  • In terms of american policy, that antisemitism.
  • 00:22:14.580 --> 00:22:17.316
  • I mean these are people who are either americans
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  • Who happened to be here now
  • 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:20.786
  • Or some israelis who were stuck overseas
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  • And were just able to get back in.
  • 00:22:23.055 --> 00:22:24.991
  • And so it was the first day
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  • That we were actually able to meet in person,
  • 00:22:26.392 --> 00:22:28.661
  • Partially because, not so much the lockdowns
  • 00:22:28.661 --> 00:22:30.963
  • Because people were stranded overseas
  • 00:22:30.963 --> 00:22:32.698
  • Trying to get back into israel
  • 00:22:32.698 --> 00:22:34.400
  • And they were able to get back in
  • 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:35.601
  • And we were finally able to meet.
  • 00:22:35.601 --> 00:22:37.236
  • And this is all about a lot of global policy issues
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  • That we work on relating to
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  • Fighting antisemitism in america,
  • 00:22:42.375 --> 00:22:44.477
  • Fighting bds across the various states,
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  • New laws that are coming up
  • 00:22:48.447 --> 00:22:51.083
  • And some that are gonna be signed soon
  • 00:22:51.083 --> 00:22:52.418
  • That are not yet public,
  • 00:22:52.418 --> 00:22:53.819
  • That are very supportive things we care about
  • 00:22:53.819 --> 00:22:56.055
  • In various states in the united states.
  • 00:22:56.055 --> 00:22:57.590
  • But again, it's been hard.
  • 00:22:57.590 --> 00:22:59.125
  • Everyone's been caring for their family
  • 00:22:59.125 --> 00:23:00.359
  • And people have been trying to struggle
  • 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:01.394
  • To get in from the country.
  • 00:23:01.394 --> 00:23:02.695
  • And some people here are trying to struggle
  • 00:23:02.695 --> 00:23:03.996
  • Through their days and this really represented
  • 00:23:03.996 --> 00:23:05.431
  • The first time they were all able to have
  • 00:23:05.431 --> 00:23:06.832
  • Sort of a mini summit of about 15 of us to talk about
  • 00:23:06.832 --> 00:23:10.570
  • Where things are in all the work that we work on constantly.
  • 00:23:10.570 --> 00:23:14.106
  • And again, this, it crosses, it's law,
  • 00:23:14.106 --> 00:23:17.510
  • It's academics, it's policy,
  • 00:23:17.510 --> 00:23:19.579
  • It's everything aclj works on all at once.
  • 00:23:19.579 --> 00:23:23.249
  • And we were able to thank god, have a meeting
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  • And also celebrate the success of these actions
  • 00:23:24.817 --> 00:23:28.054
  • And the fact that we're all alive and everyone's well.
  • 00:23:28.054 --> 00:23:30.256
  • - yes, exactly jeff.
  • 00:23:30.256 --> 00:23:31.557
  • And we're so thrilled that you're still there.
  • 00:23:31.557 --> 00:23:32.792
  • I mean you mentioned bds,
  • 00:23:32.792 --> 00:23:34.193
  • It almost, bds almost feels like a thing of the past
  • 00:23:34.193 --> 00:23:36.529
  • Because of how hard we've had to now work on so many other,
  • 00:23:36.529 --> 00:23:40.466
  • That was like, you know, the little antisemitism
  • 00:23:40.466 --> 00:23:42.768
  • That you felt like was coming
  • 00:23:42.768 --> 00:23:44.203
  • Compared to what's happened in the last few years.
  • 00:23:44.203 --> 00:23:45.938
  • It was one of our top topics,
  • 00:23:45.938 --> 00:23:47.740
  • But now it's like clear and present for most people.
  • 00:23:47.740 --> 00:23:50.109
  • It was not like, oh, you know, we're
  • 00:23:50.109 --> 00:23:52.511
  • Ben and jerry's won't sell ice cream in israel anymore.
  • 00:23:52.511 --> 00:23:54.947
  • It's like, compared to what we've dealt with now,
  • 00:23:54.947 --> 00:23:58.351
  • But it's still happening,
  • 00:23:58.351 --> 00:23:59.885
  • We need to make sure those issues are still being raised.
  • 00:23:59.885 --> 00:24:02.822
  • It just feels like a lifetime ago.
  • 00:24:02.822 --> 00:24:04.924
  • - and jews, it's still demonizing israel and jews.
  • 00:24:04.924 --> 00:24:06.792
  • Life is still miserable for jews
  • 00:24:06.792 --> 00:24:08.427
  • In universities in america.
  • 00:24:08.427 --> 00:24:10.162
  • There's a whole bunch of issues that have to get resolved
  • 00:24:10.162 --> 00:24:11.864
  • And they were not made better just now.
  • 00:24:11.864 --> 00:24:13.466
  • They just, both sides just ratcheted up their rhetoric.
  • 00:24:13.466 --> 00:24:16.402
  • - all right, let's go to alex who's calling.
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  • Listening on siriusxm. alex, you're on the air.
  • 00:24:18.104 --> 00:24:21.207
  • - [alex] hi guys, thanks for doing a great job.
  • 00:24:21.207 --> 00:24:24.010
  • And i wanna emphasize something
  • 00:24:24.010 --> 00:24:26.245
  • That i think is extremely important
  • 00:24:26.245 --> 00:24:28.314
  • That we should all be doing right now
  • 00:24:28.314 --> 00:24:29.949
  • And that is praying for our president.
  • 00:24:29.949 --> 00:24:32.852
  • The man is doing a great job.
  • 00:24:33.486 --> 00:24:35.921
  • That doesn't mean he doesn't feel the stresses of the job.
  • 00:24:35.921 --> 00:24:39.225
  • We've seen him go through a lot
  • 00:24:39.225 --> 00:24:41.394
  • And he's fighting very hard
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  • For what's in the best interest of america and israel
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  • And i believe all around the world in a unique respect.
  • 00:24:47.833 --> 00:24:52.104
  • So, prayers to the president and his staff and i believe,
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  • And hats off to the men who flew the planes
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  • And bombed the sites.
  • 00:25:00.579 --> 00:25:02.348
  • Great job to the military, just awesome.
  • 00:25:02.348 --> 00:25:07.119
  • I wanna make a very good point to you
  • 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:08.788
  • And i'm gonna do it very quickly.
  • 00:25:08.788 --> 00:25:10.790
  • When you believe that there is a threat, you act, okay.
  • 00:25:10.790 --> 00:25:16.095
  • Now, in respects to the behavior of the iranians,
  • 00:25:17.096 --> 00:25:20.599
  • I don't know how true these reports are,
  • 00:25:21.467 --> 00:25:23.502
  • But in the nature of what we're seeing in the general public
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  • About all the trucks that were outside the fordo site,
  • 00:25:26.105 --> 00:25:30.443
  • Okay, what is their actions saying
  • 00:25:30.443 --> 00:25:34.013
  • About all those trucks being there before the bombing?
  • 00:25:34.013 --> 00:25:37.750
  • They believe that that site is impregnable.
  • 00:25:37.750 --> 00:25:41.787
  • They believe that that site could be penetrated,
  • 00:25:41.787 --> 00:25:45.224
  • Could be bombed, could be destroyed.
  • 00:25:45.224 --> 00:25:47.359
  • No doubt in my mind, with consideration to their behavior.
  • 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:51.731
  • And they knew, they firmly believed
  • 00:25:51.731 --> 00:25:53.632
  • They were gonna be bombed.
  • 00:25:53.632 --> 00:25:55.201
  • - i think they didn't think president trump was bluffing.
  • 00:25:55.201 --> 00:25:57.603
  • But i think also what you say, it goes back to
  • 00:25:57.603 --> 00:26:00.272
  • The actions of the president were not just washington talk,
  • 00:26:00.272 --> 00:26:04.810
  • It wasn't the red line that obama gave the syrians
  • 00:26:04.810 --> 00:26:09.014
  • That "hey, if you use chemical weapons,
  • 00:26:09.014 --> 00:26:11.450
  • That's a red line and then we're gonna bomb you."
  • 00:26:11.450 --> 00:26:13.853
  • And then they crossed the red line
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  • And they did nothing about it.
  • 00:26:15.688 --> 00:26:17.656
  • You have to, if you're gonna lead with strength,
  • 00:26:17.656 --> 00:26:20.659
  • You have to back up your words with the actions.
  • 00:26:20.659 --> 00:26:23.129
  • And that's what he gave them.
  • 00:26:23.129 --> 00:26:24.563
  • He gave them a timeline, then he let israel go forward
  • 00:26:24.563 --> 00:26:27.600
  • And then he dropped bombs.
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  • And that is real leadership.
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  • (gentle music ending)
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