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Sekulow | JAy Sekulow - Trump Defeats Rogue Judges At Supreme Court | July 16, 2025

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- welcome to "sekulow."
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We've been following this case for a long time.
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We have had lawyers on, we've had members of our team on,
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And this is a big win at supreme court of the united states.
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Of course you remember the aclj
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Was representing west virginia
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And the west virginia attorney general, jb mccluskey,
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He'll be joining us later on to discuss this win.
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And my dad, jay sekulow,
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Will break down the opinion in the next segment.
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So you're not gonna wanna miss.
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We have a big victory, so it's a good time to celebrate.
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Will, let's break down this case,
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'cause this is the important one.
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This is one about the judges.
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People have been concerned
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About the judges having way too much strength
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To shut down a president's agenda.
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And it looks like, and we'll get into the nuance of it,
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But it looks like we were right in that situation.
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- that's right, so this case,
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And you'll see in the headlines if you're reading online
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And everything, the birthright citizenship case
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Is what all the media is putting the headlines behind.
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But in reality, this had nothing to do with the merits
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Of that case, with that executive order
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On birthright citizenship.
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What the government took to the supreme court was the issue
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Of these nationwide injunctions,
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Basically a district judge being able
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To completely halt the executive branch's policy
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In perpetuity with just the stroke of a pen
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By issuing an order saying this is a nationwide injunction
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- and we see this- - while it goes
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Through the court system. - over and over
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And over again.
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We saw it unlike any other presidency in history,
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Where all of a sudden,
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Every time president trump went to go make a move,
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A random judge is what it felt like,
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A random judge in a random district could halt it all.
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And of course, the american people eyes were opened,
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And they said, "this can't be how it's supposed to be."
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And supreme court had a six to three decision, correct?
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- that's right. six to three decision.
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This was authored by amy coney barrett.
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And it's a wonderful opinion.
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We'll get into it, but it's based off history,
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The constitution, the rule of law.
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And we'll also get into some of the things
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That the dissenters, that would be sotomayor, kagan,
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And justice jackson had to say about this.
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It's kind of shocking, but we'll get into that as well.
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Of course, we have your dad coming up in the next segment
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To talk about this opinion
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And the role we played in it as well,
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As well as the attorney general of west virginia,
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Jb mccluskey, will be joining us a little bit later on.
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- but i do think there should be
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Some celebratory moments here when you realize
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The supreme court of the united states
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Isn't just going to take it,
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And they're not just going to really relieve,
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Only give judges unilateral control over our government.
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This is a big, big win.
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And again, even there are some direct things
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That come from the work of the aclj we'll discuss as well.
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So when you're like, "hey, how the aclj was involved,"
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We'll talk about that in the next segment,
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And see how it directly impacts when you support the work
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Of the aclj, how it can directly impact
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The supreme court of the united states,
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'cause we filed a brief,
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And that brief was pretty much quoted throughout this.
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So we're gonna discuss that coming up.
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This should be a bipartisan matter.
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Has nothing to do with, as will said,
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Whether you agree with birthright citizenship,
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Don't believe in birthright citizenship.
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It's more, should the president of the united states,
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Republican or democrat, have the ability to do
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What president trump was attempting to do?
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And the supreme court,
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From a six to three decision, said absolutely.
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Welcome back to "sekulow."
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Of course, we are celebrating a big win,
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And we think we need to restate, will, what's happening.
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And then my dad, jay sekulow, he's on the phone.
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We're joining him live
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To really break down the opinion, but let's go over it.
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For those just joining right now,
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We have been fighting for this for months
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And months where president trump has, you know,
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Had all of these rogue judges who were able
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To somehow dictate the law of the land,
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The federal government, it feels like,
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Were able to step in in a way that felt unconstitutional
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Because of the way it was being targeted to president trump.
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Supreme court ruled that it seems like they agree
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With us on that.
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- that's right, this was a six-three decision authored
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By justice barrett.
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The dissenters were justice sotomayor, justice kagan
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And justice jackson, the three liberal members of the court.
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And in what barrett's opinion held was that some say
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That universal injunction gives the judiciary
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A powerful tool to check the executive branch,
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But federal courts do not exercise general oversight
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Of the executive branch.
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They resolve cases and controversies consistent
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With the authority congress has given them.
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We're gonna go to chief counsel of the aclj, jay sekulow,
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And what is your first thought on this very important case?
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- [jay] well, the first of all, the position,
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This is a big win for the administration.
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It's a big win for us.
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In fact, the argument that we put forward
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Was used in large part
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By justice barrett in her majority opinion.
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And here's what the court said.
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So you've got a situation
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Where the president's executive actions
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And other actions were being challenged
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By citizens of various locales.
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And then the court, instead of saying,
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"well, we'll imply an injunction as to those people,"
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They were doing it for the entire country.
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And there's no precedent in our history.
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And this is what justice barrett pointed out,
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And we pointed out too.
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There's no history precedent for this action.
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Zero, none.
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So when you look at it that way
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And realize what's at play, this was a 100% victory.
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It stops these rogue judges
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From issuing nationwide injunctions.
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I mean, a us district court judge
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Could stop the administration dead
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In its tracks for the whole country.
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And the court said that's not the way our system's set up.
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That's not the way jurisdictions set up.
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That's not the way the constitution works.
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- and when you look at the ruling,
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And i think this is important for the audience to hear,
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Because we think of supreme court arguments,
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You hear the two sides deliver an oral argument.
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But as you say many times that the, a lot of times,
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The supreme court decisions aren't won
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During the oral argument.
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And that is why, at the aclj, we engage in these types
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Of filing amicus briefs,
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Putting forward the briefing for the justices,
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Which is a large part of how they write their opinions.
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And when you see in this one,
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The arguments the aclj was making about rule 26
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Of the federal judiciary,
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As well as even some of the phraseology,
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Like the historical pedigree
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That was used in the opinion was a phrase
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That we were using in our own brief,
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You can start to understand why the briefing is so important
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For these justices as they come
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To their opinions on the law.
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- [jay] well, that's exactly correct.
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And look, we've been at this for 45 years,
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And the truth in the matter is this.
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Our briefs are frequently cited
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By the courts, utilized by the courts.
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And this was a perfect example of it.
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It came out exactly as we anticipated
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And we were hopeful for,
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And it's the perfect decision in the sense
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That it curtails the ability of these judges
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To stop the administration's actions for the entire country.
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They could do it for their district.
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They can do it for the plaintiffs that's in front of them,
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But not for the whole country.
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And that makes a big difference
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In how these things move forward.
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- yeah, i wanted to talk about that too,
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'cause this is something that's gonna be setting precedent.
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A lot of people think about the fact
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That president trump's currently in office,
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This is president trump.
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This isn't just for president trump,
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This is for future republicans and democrats,
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'cause if you could play this game, it will be endless.
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It would've been an endless battle
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For every administration, you know, maybe for the history
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Of time at that point where nothing could get done.
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It's another way that these, you know, judges,
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And really honestly the activists, can figure out how
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To stop even what the american people are voting for.
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- that's exactly correct.
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And here's the reality of what's happened.
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This put a check on the judiciary, which, again,
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Coincides with the constitutional directives
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Of a unitary executive.
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The president makes these decisions.
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A judge could stop it, but only for their district.
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No more universal jurisdiction.
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It wasn't good if republicans did it.
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It's not good if democrats do it. it should not happen.
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- all right, to break it down just a little bit more
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For those who are just tuning in right now,
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So overall, 'cause of course,
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If you start reading one of these wins,
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You start reading one of the opinions
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From the supreme court.
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If you're not used to reading the opinions,
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It can get a little murky.
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So i was reading it, starting to read it,
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And i jumped to the bottom to go, "okay, who voted for it?"
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Because i think that can be a pretty good indication
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Of who voted for what,
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And whether they were being a little bit more nuanced in it.
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But for those who are just reading this,
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What i guess would be the big win takeaways,
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And is there anything we need to be looking out for
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In terms of the way these opinions are written?
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- [jay] well, the big win takeaway
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Is that a judge cannot stop the act.
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An individual judge can't stop the actions
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Of the administration for the entire country, that's over.
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So this judge shopping that they're doing is finished.
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And that's really important.
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And what this means is the president
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Can exercise his authority under article two.
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The court's article three authority is checked in the sense
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That their jurisdiction is limited
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To what congress authorized.
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Congress did not authorize universal jurisdiction.
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There was no history or precedent. it's over.
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- sometimes, as logan was talking about,
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You read, and especially when the opinions
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Are rooted in the law,
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And they are going through the history and things,
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Sometimes you do have to parse out,
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Okay, how big of a win is this?
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You know, is this very limited to this one case,
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Or is it broad?
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But sometimes you can jump to the dissents,
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And get a real, full picture of how big
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Of a win it is based off how upset
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The more liberal, philosophically-minded justices are.
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And i wanted to read this from justice jackson's dissent,
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Who has actually surprised us many times
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By voting in the way of the conservatives,
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Especially on the immunity decision
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Where she was joining the conservatives in that.
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But she had this to say about this opinion.
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"perhaps the degradation of our rule
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Of law regime would've happened anyway.
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But this court's complicity in the creation of a culture
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Of disdain for lower courts, their rulings,
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And the law as they interpret it,
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Will surely hasten the downfall
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Of our governing institutions,
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Enabling our collective demise."
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I don't think i've read something
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So apocalyptic in a dissent before, but maybe i'm wrong.
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- [logan] it's hilarious.
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- [jay] first of all, okay,
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It's a procedural decision, okay? (laughs)
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And it's a good procedural decision.
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It says courts can exercise universal jurisdiction.
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That makes total sense.
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But to say this is the end of the, you know,
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The rule of law as we know it is nonsense.
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I mean, totally incorrect.
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Great decision by justice barrett.
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Good win for the administration.
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Good win for us. we're thrilled.
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- all right, thank you, dad, for joining us again,
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Jay sekulow, chief counsel of the aclj.
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In the next segment we're gonna hear from jb mccluskey,
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Will, attorney general
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Of west virginia. - that's right.
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- and he was directly involved in our suit here.
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- that's right.
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We worked with the attorney general's office
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Of west virginia, and in the brief that we filed,
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Was on behalf of the state of west virginia.
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So both the attorney general and his solicitor general,
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As well as our team's names
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Are all on the front of the brief.
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And the brief of amicus curiae,
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State of west virginia in support
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Of the applicants is the title of our brief.
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So it's a win for not just the aclj and all of our members,
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But as well as a client in this,
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The state of west virginia,
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That was concerned about the implications
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Of these district judges,
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Not just on the administration, but how people could then go
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And forum shop to get nationwide injunctions to try
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And block things that individual states were doing,
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And trying to almost have state warfare, economic warfare
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Or lawfare against other states, by the way,
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That injunctions could be placed and handed down.
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And so we'll get the take
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Of attorney general mccluskey in the next segment.
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Very busy time for the attorney general.
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He's able to join us.
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So that's gonna be great to have him joining us
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(dramatic music)
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(dramatic music)
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- we, again, together with the state of west virginia,
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It's an honor for the aclj
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And our members to be standing up for the citizens
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Of west virginia,
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Filed together a brief at the us supreme court today,
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And these cases involving district court judges
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Issuing injunctions, preventing the executive branch
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From being able to function.
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But we've gotten to a point in time
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Where the courts have gotten very politicized.
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I've talked about this with you, jb, before,
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But i think just leaving that court case,
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What you could see is taking politics out of the law
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Is becoming more and more difficult every day.
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And it's not, again,
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It's not just talking about president trump,
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But from administration to administration.
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If we keep going down this road,
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It's hard to see where it stops.
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- well, government overreach exists in the judicial branch
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As much as it does in the executive
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And in the legislative branch.
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And west virginia has been a leader in ensuring
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That administrative agencies
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Don't overreach their authority,
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Things like the epa, things like waters of the united states
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Where we were being regulated outside of
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What the congressionally available remedies were.
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And we said to the court, we said,
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"hey, the epa has overstepped its bounds here."
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The constitution and the law allows them to do this.
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The courts have the same set of laws
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And the same set of rules.
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And district courts are only allowed to decide cases
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For the plaintiffs and the people that are in front of them.
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And i think the most salient factor here
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Is that there is a remedy.
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The remedy is to file a case in the court
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Where you certify a class of people
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So the court knows who they're talking to.
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They got into that a lot today.
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And i think the fundamental issue
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That we're talking about now is i think the court recognized
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That these are disfavored,
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And that this cadre of nationwide injunctions
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Is a dangerous road to hoe.
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I think the question's going to become whether
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Or not they believe exceptions should exist
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In extraordinary circumstances.
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They're either gonna say the rules matter
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In all circumstances, or they're gonna say,
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"we need to start limiting the way
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That district courts can do this."
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We're very hopeful that they're gonna follow
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The historical rule of law,
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And say that we don't do nationwide injunctions
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In this country.
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- when you look at this issue too, i mean,
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And this is why you got involved,
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And why the state of west virginia is involved in this case,
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Is because you're not looking at it as just a temporary,
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You know, what's gonna happen
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In the next first 100 days of a presidency.
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And yes, i can step back
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And say from a political standpoint,
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This is a broader issue going on in this one case.
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I mean, basically every time this executive has tried
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To act, this is what's being done.
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You find a court in washington state
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That will say, "you know what,
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If this district court judge said
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You could stop the interpretation of this citizenship grant,
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Then i could stop whether the coal industry
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Can produce more coal."
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And then ultimately here,
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So we wanna step out from the politics, but like you said,
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These are those kind of crossroads in the country.
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- we're joined by attorney general of west virginia,
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Jb mccluskey, who has obviously been deeply involved
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In this case through our entire run here at the aclj.
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Of course he's an aclj alum as well.
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But jb, i wanna get your initial feelings
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Coming after this big win.
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- [jb] yeah, this is a really good one.
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You know, while we didn't get to the merits
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Of the actual underlying question,
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The supreme court held very sternly
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That these nationwide injunctions need to stop,
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And that they are unconstitutional.
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They do exceed the scope
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Of what our district courts are allowed to do.
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And they are politicizing the courts in a way
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That is very dangerous,
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Whether it's a republican or a democrat doing it.
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And so we are just tickled,
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And the best part about this is that much
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Of the language used in the amicus that we co-drafted
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With you guys was relied upon by the court,
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And they're holding it.
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So we're really happy about this one.
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- it really has been amazing to read those,
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And always see what the aclj can do,
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And what your team's done,
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'cause when i look at this, and you are right,
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This is something bipartisanship should overtake this win,
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Not just a president trump win,
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Not just a attorney general of west virginia win,
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'cause this is gonna set precedent for the rest of our life,
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Whether the republican or democrat.
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And look, if you agree like we agree,
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That shouldn't matter in this sense
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That it is not a partisan win one way or the other.
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But will, i know you got something you wanna share.
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- right, and jb, you may have not seen this yet.
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I know that you probably were pouring over the dissents
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Just to see what the justices,
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The three liberal justices had to say on this opinion.
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But there is a line i wanna get your take on,
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Especially as someone who is an attorney general of a state
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Who very much lives by the rule
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Of law in your everyday proceedings
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As that officer of the state,
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And justice jackson had this to say in her dissent,
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"perhaps the degradation of our rule
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Of law regime would happen anyway.
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But this court's complicity in the creation of a culture
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Of disdain for lower courts,
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Their rulings, and the law, as they interpret it,
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Will surely hasten the downfall
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Of our governing institutions,
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Enabling our collective demise."
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Is that the feeling you get
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From this ruling, attorney general?
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- [jb] i generally don't feel like our country
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Is spiraling into chaos
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When we uphold the constitutional framework
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That was set up by the framers, for sure.
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And you know, honestly, it feels a little on the nose
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If i'm being honest.
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I mean, that is a pretty lengthy
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And weighty thing to say about district courts issuing,
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Being able to issue it nationwide injunctions.
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That is, it's probably what prompted the small response
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To that language by amy coney barrett too,
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If i had to guess.
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- and normally you don't see-
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- [logan] just so performative.
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- within opinions like that, within the body
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Of the opinion, a direct smack down,
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So to speak. (logan laughs)
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And that's what the attorney general's referencing
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Is that this was written by justice barrett.
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We will not dwell on justice jackson's argument,
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Which is at odds with more
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Than two centuries' worth of precedent,
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Not to mention the constitution itself.
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We observe only this.
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Justice jackson decries an imperial executive
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While embracing an imperial judiciary.
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- yeah, it feels almost, you know,
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Like the time of the founders,
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(will laughs) like the way they would talk
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To each other via the news.
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- right, through the letters. - through the papers,
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Through letters, like it's just kind of,
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It's humorous, but it's not, but it is humorous
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To read this like end-of-the-world apocalyptic language,
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Right, when it comes down to whether judges have the right
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To make these kind of decisions.
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Jb, i'm very excited that we were able
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To wrap this up also so quickly, and that the aclj team
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Was able to jump in and help you out.
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But you and jordan were so actively involved in this.
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You were there at the court really just being,
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When the aclj team can get behind something like this,
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It really shows how amazing the work can be done.
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- [jb] yes, and this is sort
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Of the reason why you build coalitions, right,
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Is to make sure that you have all
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Of the skill you need to do big things.
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And this is a really, really big win,
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Not just for obviously west virginia,
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But this is a big win for our country.
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This scourge of nationwide injunctions
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Was only going to get worse,
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And we had to step in and do something.
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And i'm just really thankful that we were able
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To play a part in this, and even more thankful
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For the six majority judges who agreed with us.
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- jb, thank you so much for joining us.
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I know that you've got a lot going on, a lot on your plate.
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It's not like you just sit around
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And read opinions from the supreme court all day.
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So thank you for joining us,
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Being able to on quick notice when we got this out.
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Your team is wonderful to work with.
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We appreciate them
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And appreciate you joining us on the broadcast today.
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- [jb] yeah, i don't have to read those things, will.
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I have you for that.
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- [logan] that's right.
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(logan and will laugh)
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Just like old times.
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- [jb] you guys have a great day,
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And we are pouring through this decision,
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And it really is a good one.
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- all right, jb, thank you so much for joining us.
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Attorney general jb mccluskey from west virginia.
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We're able to have such amazing guests like jb who, again,
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Who also are aclj alumni, people that have been part
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Of the team throughout the years.
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And it's really encouraging to go to this next step
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And be able to see
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How our team has been able to now influence
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The supreme court of the united states once again
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For another generation.
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And again, that doesn't happen without your support.
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I do wanna take some phone calls also,
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And i wanna hear from president trump,
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'cause i know that he has been speaking about this.
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Do you wanna play something from trump?
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- let's go ahead. this is from the press conference he-
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- [logan] moments ago.
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- announced early, as soon as this came out,
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This decision by the supreme court
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That there would be a press conference with him
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And the attorney general and todd blanche as well.
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- he's elected on a historic mandate.
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But in recent months, we've seen a handful
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Of radical left judges effectively try
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To overrule the rightful powers of the president
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To stop the american people from getting the policies
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That they voted for in record numbers.
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It was a grave threat to democracy, frankly.
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And instead of merely ruling on the immediate cases
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Before them, these judges have attempted to dictate the law
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For the entire nation.
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In practice, this meant that if any one
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Of the nearly 700 federal judges disagreed with the policy
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Of a duly elected president of the united states,
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He or she could block that policy from going into effect,
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Or at least delay it for many years,
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Tie it up in the court system.
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This was a colossal abuse of power
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Which never occurred in american history
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Prior to recent decades.
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And we've been hit with more nationwide injunctions
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Than were issued in the entire 20th century.
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- all right, let's continue on. we got john in boston.
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John, you're on the air.
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- [john] thanks for taking my call, guys.
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What do we do with judges
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Like judge murphy up here in boston
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Who was ignoring the supreme court's ruling,
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And basically saying, you know.
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- [logan] yeah, exactly.
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- [john] "i'm gonna find you in contempt
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When you come back or-"
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- so what john's referring to is that there was the judge
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That issued an injunction
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About the president deporting migrants
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That were slated for removal to a third-party country.
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We saw a decision out of the supreme court earlier
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This week actually about that very issue,
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Which said, you know, that they can be moving,
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At least at this point, move forward.
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They can be taken
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To third-party countries instead of directly back.
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You may think, okay, an iranian may not be received back
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In iran right now,
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Or a venezuelan may not be received back in venezuela,
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Because we don't have good relationship
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With those countries.
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But then judge murphy out of massachusetts,
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As you mentioned, john, as you are there as well,
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Has said basically it seems like he's going
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To defy the supreme court.
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Don't know where this one goes,
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But i know the government is asking the justices
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At the supreme court to address the,
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Quote, "unprecedented defiance"
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Of the supreme court's authority.
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So that is something we do need to watch, john,
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And we'll see how,
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If there's anything the supreme court does,
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'cause right now, they're in recess.
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- all right, john, thank you for calling.
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We got two more calls, we got two and a half minutes.
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We're gonna try. let's go to wes first.
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Wes, you're on the air.
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- [wes] yes, how come the illegal aliens get kicked out,
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But the people that hire them don't have any repercussions?
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- i don't know if that's necessarily true, wes,
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That they don't have any repercussions.
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And look, we obviously have a lot of issues that we have
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To get through in terms of employment
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And verification and all that.
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It seems like every time they put in some sort
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Of new verification system, there's an easy way around it.
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But will, you got something? i just saw you talking.
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- well i know that john, or wes, sorry, not john,
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Specifically, that the fbi
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And the government is doing things.
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- [logan] they're doing that.
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- this is just from a while ago that-
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- [logan] just from a while ago.
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- no, i mean, but dan bongino put up an update
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That there was a big business that was specifically going
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Around that rules, and that, one,
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They had worked with ice to handle the issue
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Of the migrants as well,
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But they are looking at what statutes were violated.
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- yeah, it's just not making as much news, wes,
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But it is happening.
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And look, i think there's a lot of people
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Who have built their businesses on that, unfortunately.
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And they're now trying to figure out what to do.
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That's why you even saw some relief happen
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For the hospitality industry,
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Okay, they're trying to figure out how they're going
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To keep functioning.
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Not saying that's right, i'm just saying that's the facts.
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Let's go to david very quickly in tennessee.
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- [david] where does birthright citizenship stand
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As it is now?
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Trump says they have to be a citizen
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Or under the jurisdiction.
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- here's the real quick answer on that.
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It will have to return to the supreme court,
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That executive order, 'cause the case still ongoing.
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So the individual that, or a group of individuals,
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'cause there were several different cases
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That got consolidated, they still have the injunctions,
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So they still have this in place where they can fight.
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- [logan] so you gotta start over a little bit.
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- they have to go through the court to try
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And see where the disposition of the merits of that happens.
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- we'll keep monitoring, david. thank you so much.
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JAy Sekulow - Trump Defeats Rogue Judges At Supreme Court

July 16, 2025 | 29:27

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