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August 13, 2025 | S1 E812 | 29:23

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- it feels like this is a bit
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Of a back and forth volleying match
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Between whatever's happening in the fbi
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Or the department of the national intelligence,
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Whatever it may be, and they go back and forth.
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They go, "you don't have anything."
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Oh yeah, here's some more. "you don't have anything."
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Oh yeah, here's some more.
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And they doubled down this morning, will.
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- that's right, so the director of national intelligence,
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As we know, tulsi gabbard,
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She had released things last week.
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Now we are understanding that the director of the cia,
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John ratcliffe,
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Will be declassifying underlying intelligence
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That was the basis for a classified annex
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To special counsel john durham's report
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On the weaponization of government with russia occlusion.
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- you're gonna have to keep all the johns-
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- there's a lot of 'em. - there's a lot of johns.
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- that's right.
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What this intelligence is going to show,
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According to sources,
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Is what the intelligence community knew
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About russia collusion hoax and when they knew it
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And how bad it is for them,
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Including things like there was foreign intelligence
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That our government had.
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- listen to this, okay, i think we gotta slow this down,
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'cause this is a big moment here, will.
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This is where you gotta look at how our government reacted
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Just a few years ago, under 10 years ago,
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Working towards what would be become
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The first trump presidency. - that's right.
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So, there is reports that is what we will see
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In this underlying intelligence is that foreign governments,
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Other intelligence agencies that shared information
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With the cia, john brennan, the director of the cia,
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With what they called surprising specificity,
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Like detailing what was going to happen
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With the russia collusion hoax
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Before the fbi ever started crossfire hurricane.
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They shared this intelligence showing
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That hillary clinton and her team
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Had authorized a smear campaign against president trump,
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That this smear campaign would allege
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He was an asset of putin, and that all of this
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Was to further the distraction against her emails,
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As well as that the fbi would amplify these claims
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Through investigative steps.
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And they said, "it described the russia collusion hoax
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"with surprising specificity
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"before the fbi ever opened the investigation."
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- yeah, that was the line that really caught me off guard
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Was the specificity, saying essentially,
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They knew the plans that were gonna happen before that.
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And not only did they not forward it,
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They seemed to want to embolden it,
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To engage in it, to engulf it.
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- and we're gonna get into that in the next segment.
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Don't go away, because earlier,
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When we were talking last week about this,
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There is a part of me that's like, you know,
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None of these people ever get held accountable.
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Reading what john brennan knew, what james comey knew,
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According to these reports,
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There better be some accountability here,
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Because this is a cut-and-dry case
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Of knowing one thing and then pulling a scam
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On the entire american public for years,
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Wasting taxpayer money, wasting criminal resources
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And trying to undermine an elected president
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Of the united states.
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It is shocking. (dramatic music)
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It is shocking. (dramatic music)
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- some of you are just joining us right now.
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We know a lot of you are joining us right this second,
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So let's restate, will, what's going on.
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- that's right, so there's several reports
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That have started to come out about some intelligence
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That is expected to be declassified this week
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By the director of the cia, john ratcliffe.
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And there's multiple reports,
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And because you're getting it from different sources,
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We haven't seen the primary documents yet,
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But what we're expected to get is declassified intelligence
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That was in an annex to the john durham report.
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We know that the john durham report special counsel
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Was highly critical of the way
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That the crossfire hurricane investigation,
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The weaponization of the government,
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Unfolded under the fbi leadership of james comey,
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And then following with the special counsel robert mueller
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And the intel agencies.
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What we haven't seen
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Is what a lot of his report was based on,
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Because it was classified intelligence product.
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That tells the full story, and that is what we are expected
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To see declassified by john ratcliffe
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And then either released by the department of justice,
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Because that is a work product of a special counsel,
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Or they could release it through someone
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Like chairman grassley of the senate judiciary committee,
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Which is how they've released some of these other things
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That have come out,
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Such as the clinton email classified annex
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That was released just a few weeks ago.
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But here's some of the things that we're hearing already.
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One is a report out of "fox news."
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The other is outta "tablet magazine."
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These are a good chance they're talking
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About the same thing, but until we see it,
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We won't know if these are two separate items,
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But they seem to correlate pretty closely.
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"fox" is saying that there was alarming specificity
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In the intelligence
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Before crossfire hurricane was opened by the fbi.
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That was the investigation into trump-russia collusion.
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- we're talking about now at least 10 years, if not 11 plus.
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- [will] 2015, 2016. - 10 years, nine, 10 years.
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- 2016 is when a lot of this work product
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Was first obtained by the intelligence community.
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- [logan] but it's just now getting to the light of day,
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Because we have a new administration in town.
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- that's right, and this administration
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Is being transparent, showing what went on.
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And one of the really shocking details to me is that,
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And bear with me for a minute here,
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The director of the cia at the time,
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This was at the end of the obama administration
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As the 2016 election cycle was going forward,
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Received intelligence from the dutch spy agency.
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So that would be the dutch equivalent to the cia.
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They were spying on russia,
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And they saw that russia had hacked the dnc,
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Which was widely known
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And received communications, internal documents.
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That russia knew that hillary clinton in her campaign
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Had authorized a smear campaign of donald trump.
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And what they were gonna claim
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Is that donald trump was an asset of putin,
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And that would damage his credibility
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And help her get elected.
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- which sounds fairly familiar.
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It feels like maybe we heard that a few times.
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- and so it's interesting.
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One, we've now learned the russians knew about that
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And did nothing. - this was before
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That narrative began. - so that already discredits
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The later intelligence community assessment
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That the russians wanted donald trump to win.
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How could they hurt hillary clinton if they said,
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"hey, by the way,
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"she's about to launch a false attack on us.
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"how do we know? yeah, we hacked her emails."
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But this isn't true.
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That would damage the credibility of the clinton campaign,
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And that would help donald trump potentially get elected
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If that was the goal of the russians.
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So the dutch say, "hey, we've learned
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"about what the clinton campaign is gonna do,
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"because we're spying on the russians."
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And what did john brennan do, the director of the cia?
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He took this,
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And they called it the clinton plan intelligence,
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So what the campaign was gonna do.
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And he briefed senior white house officials.
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He briefed the director of national intelligence,
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James clapper.
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He briefed the president, and he briefed james comey,
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The director of the fbi at the time.
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What transpired after that is that this other intelligence
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Says the fbi is gonna be amplifying this work product
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Of the clintons that released this.
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They did exactly
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What the intelligence told 'em they were gonna do.
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Instead of investigating the clinton campaign
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For trying to fabricate intelligence,
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They did what they were forecasted to do.
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They started investigating president trump
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About this fake plan.
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Now james clapper- - well, knowing that it was
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Not only a fake plan, it was a plan
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That was created intentionally to disrupt the election
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And to swing votes potentially to hillary clinton.
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- that's right, and so john brennan-
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- so they were like, "that's a good idea, putin."
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- brennan knew this was gonna happen.
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James clapper knew it was gonna happen.
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James comey knew it was gonna happen.
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Those are the three people
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That there have been criminal referrals about.
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- james comey. - james comey,
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James clapper, john brennan.
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They all knew. - three js.
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- and nowhere in the intelligence community assessment,
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Which was released, did they mention
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That they had this intelligence.
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- they knew. - they even testified
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That they had no idea about this later.
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They lied to congress.
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They lied to the media. - it just felt right.
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- they lied to the american people.
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- what did they say? - he said, "it rings true."
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- it it rings true.
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- so now we are seeing that even the special counsel,
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Which many ask, "why didn't the special counsel,
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"john durham, bring charges?"
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I mean, we do know that he was probably reigned in
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By merrick garland to some degree,
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Because that was the attorney general under joe biden.
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But we know these individuals knew that this was a scam
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To begin with that was cooked up by the clinton campaign.
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They knew that the russians knew about it
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And weren't doing anything about it,
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Which would help hillary clinton
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If she were to get out there with this information,
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Which she did, and they did nothing about it.
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Instead of shutting it down, they amplified it.
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They started an investigation,
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Based off of something that they already knew wasn't true.
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They lied to the american people.
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They lied to congress. they wasted taxpayer money.
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They tried to subvert a presidency.
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If that's not a treasonous conspiracy, i don't know what is.
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- i wanna go to a phone call before we go to break here.
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Let's go to tom, who's calling in washington state.
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Tom, you're on the air.
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- [tom] yeah, that's a lot of spitballs
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Thrown on the wall there, you've said there, buddy.
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That's simple intelligence trade craft.
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You throw out a lot of landmines or seamines, if you will,
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And they just float around out there
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Until somebody wants to pick them up
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And apply it to a narrative and excellent job.
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Excellent job.
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You've done a fine job of being a useful idiot.
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That's all i gotta say. - i appreciate it, tom.
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I appreciate the compliment, calling us useful idiots.
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- well, it's a technical foul. - to your point, tom,
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Whatever you want to believe about this.
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- [logan] am i the idiot, or are you the idiot?
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- i think we both are at this point.
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- i don't know. you said a lot more than i did, so.
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- okay, so i'm the idiot, apparently.
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- [logan] i think today, you can be the idiot.
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- what is the difference here in what he can say-
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- useful. - intelligence trade crafted.
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Well one, are you suggesting that the intelligence community
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Is still furthering this conspiracy-
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- because that was true. - 'cause that would help
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With the statute of limitations.
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But if the director of the cia knew this,
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They had credible evidence,
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They had credible intelligence reports, they believed,
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And then they did the opposite of that.
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I don't know if that's good use of trade craft
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Or if that's good use of the spy agencies as well,
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As we know that they believe something different
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Until trump got elected, then they changed their mind.
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So you tell me who was being the useful idiots
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In the government at the time
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That decided to undermine the constitution.
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- that is the work of the aclj. we're not ad supported.
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We're not supported by anyone other than you,
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The individual donor and the aclj champion.
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I'm actually gonna jump to an aclj champion,
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'cause when they call in,
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A lot of times i try to push 'em to the very front.
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Guess what happens.
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There'll be people on hold for a half hour already.
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But you know what, carrie in montana,
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Aclj champion, bump to the front of the line, go ahead.
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- [carrie] hi, guys.
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I just wanted to comment on the spitball man.
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Hillary clinton, obama, comey, and the spitball man,
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If you're anti-american,
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Maybe you should move to the congo that cc was talking about
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And stop criticizing us good guys.
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Thank you, will, and all of you brothers and sisters
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And happy birthday, i think, to your dad.
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- yeah, it was my dad's birthday last month.
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It was jordan's birthday a couple weeks ago, so yeah,
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- [carrie] oh, jordan, maybe that's what...
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We love you guys, and we are so grateful for you-
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- you had me question it.
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I like, oh no, whose birthday did i miss?
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There's somebodies, i'm sure. - yeah, i'm sorry.
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- [will] i was hoping she was right and you were wrong.
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- hey, you know what though?
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It is our head writer, bart's 50th birthday.
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So you know what, a lot of that content you read
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On our website, a lot of it's crafted and curated by bart.
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So you know what, we'll give him the happy birthday, carrie.
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Thank you for calling. we appreciate it.
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Will, we only have like three minutes in this segment.
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But for people who don't know,
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Maybe we need to give 'em a little bit of a refresher,
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Because she was talking about the spitball man
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And all these things.
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They may have missed what the context of this was.
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- right, so what we expect is soon
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That the director of the cia, john ratcliffe,
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Will declassify the intelligence,
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The underlying intelligence of the classified annex
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Of special counsel john durham's report
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On the crossfire hurricane investigation.
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Why this is important is it gives a lot of the rationale
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For a lot of the things that we saw in his report
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That were critical of the spy agencies, the fbi,
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The government, as they unfolded this russia collusion hoax,
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And she's referencing spitball man.
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That was someone that was trying to criticize our analysis
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Of this entire story,
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Saying that, "you just don't understand trade craft.
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"you don't understand how spy games work."
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I've seen "spy games," great movie.
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- we've been to the spy museum.
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I used to have all those pins that you could put,
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And you could listen and record.
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- what i think is so interesting too is that one,
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It shows, even that caller in and of itself,
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Kind of shows how bad of a place
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That even our intelligence agencies got.
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That's where tulsi gabbard and people like john ratcliffe
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That's saying, "we're going back to doing the work
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"of the central intelligence agency."
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Instead, they just became political bureaus,
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Transacting in political materials
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To damage or prop up campaigns.
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His entire comment about how,
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"i mean, that's how spy agencies work.
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"they just throw out landmines,
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"and whatever you want to pick up, you can use."
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No, there's still standards to analytical trade craft
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And spy craft and what they do
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And how they analyze the intelligence.
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That's why some reports, as they build others,
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Are more credible than others,
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Depending on who the source is,
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How they acquire the information from the source.
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It's not just like they're just making up everything
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And putting it out there.
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Now, yes, there is distracting information they'll put out
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To try to throw other people off.
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That's the game of the intelligence community and world,
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But it's also why a lot of people criticize where it got to.
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And the fact that he's saying
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That we're just picking up on remnant things,
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It's like there is a narrative here,
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And we've been talking about it for 10 years,
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And now the intelligence that's being released is showing
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That what we talked about the entire time was accurate.
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And if anyone should know about how poorly
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The special counsel bob mueller went,
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It would be people here at the aclj,
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Because we lived through it in real time.
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- just when you think corruption couldn't get any crazier,
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Just when you think there isn't more to unveil,
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Because the fbi, once again, caught spying on who?
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Catholic priests, this time catholic priests
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Who just didn't want to divulge some details
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Of the conversations they were having with parishioners.
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- that's right, so what we are finding more and more
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As this new administration is releasing documents
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That were refused to be released to congress
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Who provides oversight of these executive branches
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During the last administration is quite shocking.
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And we followed this, we filed foia requests,
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We got a lot of information out about this.
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We found out that it wasn't just one field office
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In richmond that went rogue and decided,
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"hey, let's target some catholic churches
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"while we're at it."
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Now we learned that even through our foia
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That it went to multiple field offices,
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That this was a coordinated thing,
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And that they wanted to make this a national work product
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That the fbi would be targeting catholic churches.
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And even their assessment of why they were writing this
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Was because they assessed that interest
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In what they considered
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Radical traditional catholic churches,
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Which they designated, they came up with that term.
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That interest in these churches was likely to increase
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Over the next 24 to 24 months
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In the run up to the next general election cycle.
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And why was that? because these churches were pro-life.
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Because they had conservative values.
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- [logan] and that's enough.
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- and so that's why they were targeting these churches.
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- and that is why they use terms
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Like radical traditional catholics,
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'cause they wanna make sure you understand
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We're not talking about the liberal church,
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We're not talking about the progressive church,
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We're only talking about the conservatives,
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The real christians that are in it.
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- exactly. - believers.
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- and even as we talked about that other story,
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What we're seeing more and more, this memo-
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- it's why they went after amy coney barrett
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At the very beginning. - right!
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This memo was specifically because of the election.
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They were concerned about people being interested
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In these churches because of the election.
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And that's why we know that the fbi,
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All the intelligence agencies...
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That's why to use the terms of director brennan,
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"it just rings true." - it rings true.
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- because that's what they were doing.
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And but here's what the new layer
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That came out of this judiciary committee report
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In the house under the leadership
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Of the house judiciary committee,
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Is that jim jordan and his committee released this,
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And it says that not only were they writing this memo
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On how to do this, they had actually put this into practice.
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And they talk about one specific story
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Where a priest at a catholic church in richmond,
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Where this memo came out of, was visited by the fbi
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And someone that the fbi was investigating.
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And they wanted to know the content of the conversations
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Between the priest and the person
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Who was converting to catholicism.
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He was receiving spiritual guidance.
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That is typically protected speech.
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- [logan] pretty private, like therapy.
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- and when they started asking direct questions,
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They said, "oh he got nervous
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"and started stuttering his way through it,
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"and so therefore,
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"we decided we needed to start investigating this priest."
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- you have these guys in front of you,
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And you don't get nervous.
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- and then what triggered them even further
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Was then he said, "i need to speak
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"with the church's counsel, our attorneys,
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"and leadership to know how to proceed,
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"because the fbi's telling us,
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"'you gotta answer these questions.'"
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And he's like, "i'm a priest.
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"i know that there are privileges that we have
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"when counseling people, when leading them to faith,"
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And here's what the fbi did.
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They didn't just start to snoop around more
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And talk to other people.
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They started looking at this priest's bank records.
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This priest went to london for a catholic conference.
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They sent a request to the foreign spy agencies in england
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As well as the metropolitan police counter-terrorism unit
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To make sure they were keeping tabs on this priest
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When he was at a catholic conference in england.
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They were running an entire counter-terrorism campaign
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Against a priest, because he was doing his job as a priest
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And talking to someone
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Who was interested in converting to his faith.
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- [logan] yeah, in private.
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- and you wanna know what also, their one caveat,
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Why they said the privilege didn't apply?
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Because that person hadn't been baptized yet
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Into the catholic church,
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So therefore, they had no privilege.
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- so they're one of those.
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You need to be baptized to have a government protection.
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- yeah, to have privilege, 1st amendment protection,
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Freedom of religion, but privacy between your clergy,
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And that's where it's absurd.
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It's also not that they continue to target the individual,
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'cause who knows what that person did or whatever.
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That's not the point of this.
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The point of this is that the member of the clergy
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Was specifically targeted,
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And when he wouldn't answer questions,
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They ran a counter-terrorism operation on him.
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They started researching his ordination,
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Going back into his history, his college records.
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They were going into all this simply because he was a priest
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And was nervous about talking to law enforcement
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Because of protections that they have.
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- we know this has been an issue for many years now.
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And the aclj has fought back hard
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To try to figure out how we can respond to this,
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Whether that's representing individuals,
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Representing the churches, representing organizations,
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Or getting involved even in just a media advocacy campaign.
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There are many different ways the aclj gets involved.
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When you have a situation like this,
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Sometimes it is as much about spreading the word.
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That is why we don't, like i said,
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I've said it maybe ad nauseam today,
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We don't put the show behind a paywall.
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We don't put any of our content behind a paywall.
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All of it is available for free, 24/7 for you to take,
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Learn from it, share it with your friends.
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You don't have to loan it to 'em.
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You don't have to send some weird gift article.
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You don't have to give them your login
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And pretend that's a moral thing to do.
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All you have to do is copy and paste
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And send it to your friends,
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Because we think it's so important for the aclj to work
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To always be available to everyone and whoever needs it,
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Whoever needs it for their own resources.
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Or maybe sometimes these topics get a little heady.
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I know they do for me sometimes,
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And maybe you don't have a will in your life
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Who can break it all down for you.
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But you do, because you can take will's content
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And just share it and say,
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"listen, listen to this three minutes.
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"it's gonna change your life."
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- and logan, i do wanna read this to you, this point,
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Because it proves once again that the fbi
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Was in the business of election interference,
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Even under christopher wray,
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Because they refused to give all this over
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Under the obama administration
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Before christopher wray left that position.
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It took a kash patel in that position
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To get this information to congress
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Who was doing their legitimate oversight
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Of the executive agency.
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This is from the outlook of that richmond memo.
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"fbi richmond assesses that the interest
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"in radical traditional catholics is likely to increase
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"over the next 12 to 24 months
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"in the runup to the next general election cycle,
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"complicating the overall threat picture,
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"while also creating new opportunities
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"for mitigation efforts, i.e., spying on churches.
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"this assessment is made in light of ongoing polarization,
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"characterizing the us political environment
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"and the probability that policy issues
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"of mutual interest to,"
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These are domestic violent extremists and rtc,
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Radical traditional catholics,
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"adherent will remain in the public spotlight.
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"catalyzing events, such as judicial decisions in areas,
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"such as abortion rights, immigration,
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"affirmative action, et cetera."
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They are saying that court cases from the us supreme court
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Are causing radical traditional catholic interest to rise
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Over the course of the next general election.
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They were trying to spy on churches
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For election interference, just like james comey,
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Who was apparently briefed on the matter
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From the director of the cia that hey, guess what,
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These intelligence agencies know
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That the hillary clinton campaign is trying to use you
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To spread this disinformation.
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And what did he do with that,
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Instead of investigating that, instead he's like,
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"sounds like a good idea. maybe we should do that."
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- yeah, it reads true. - it does read true.
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- read true, ring true.
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- but it may just be a bunch of spitballs at the wall
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Trying to see what sticks. - phone lines are jammed.
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You know what? i'm gonna go to candy real quick in georgia.
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She's got a good quick comment.
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Go ahead. - [candy] hey there.
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First and foremost, you guys are not useless,
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Nor are you idiots. (laughs)
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- thank you. - you're welcome.
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And i'm happy that the administration is doing something.
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I think they will hold people accountable
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With the epstein-russia hoax and the 2020 election fraud.
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You all, like i said, are doing a good job.
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Sometimes i might even disagree with you guys,
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But then you explain your side of the story,
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And then i understand, so thank you so much for you guys.
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- absolutely, look, candy,
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That's 100% what i've always told you,
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And i believe it truly.
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I think that's what makes our show
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And our entire perspective unique,
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Which is, i know what you want me to say.
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I know what a lot of you want me to say,
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But i'm not going to, i'm just going to tell you the truth.
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And our perspective on that truth
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May not line up with yours, because you may go,
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"oh, that's not what i wanna hear."
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But it doesn't matter.
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We've been through this long enough
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To know will there be consequences for actions?
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(bright music) will things happen?
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Will this court case go anywhere?
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There's a lot of other organizations
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That are out there asking for money
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Just like we are right now, asking for your support.
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But you know what?
00:25:21.041 --> 00:25:22.376
They know they've got losers on their hands.
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I don't mean that in actual people.
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I mean that with cases and the topics they're bringing up.
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We're not gonna do that.
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We're gonna shoot straight with you, be honest.
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That is 100% what the american people want right now.
00:25:32.553 --> 00:25:35.589
They don't want republican, they don't want democrat,
00:25:35.589 --> 00:25:37.691
They just want someone to tell them the truth
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Of what's really happening.
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And like i said, we've been through it here at the aclj.
00:25:42.362 --> 00:25:45.099
We know what's happening,
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And we're gonna give it to you even if you don't like it.
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(dramatic music)
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- [jordan] as always, let me thank everybody at tbn
00:25:52.740 --> 00:25:55.342
For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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(soft dramatic music)
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Sekulow - Secret Intel Predicted FBI's Russia Hoax

August 13, 2025 | S1 E812 | 29:23

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