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Sekulow | Sekulow - Tulsi Destroys Deep State Following Trump Order | September 3, 2025
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- - welcome to "sekulow," once again,
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- We're back and we got some breaking news
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- And we also joined "sekulow," in the studio,
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- Will haynes is in the studio as always.
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- We'll be joined a little bit later by ric grenell
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- And by attorney general of west virginia, j.b. mccuskey.
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- So you're not gonna wanna miss that.
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- We got a packed show for you.
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- With our friend, former colleague
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- And now current director of national intelligence,
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- Tulsi gabbard went through
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- And got rid of 37 security clearances.
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- These were all involved with the "russiagate" scenario
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- And everything that went down.
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- Will, give it to us.
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- - that's right.
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- So these individuals are people
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- That had some sort of connection
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- To politicizing or weaponizing intelligence
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- And what we see is that we know early on
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- In the trump presidency,
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- Even before tulsi gabbard was director
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- Of national intelligence,
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- They got rid of the top names that you know of,
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- The clappers, the brennans, the john boltons.
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- They had their security clearance revoked.
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- But this is as a result of their investigation
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- And finding out how deep
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- This widespread conspiracy
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- To politicize weaponization went.
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- And now that they're putting out that information,
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- They're also taking action
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- By suspending the security clearances of 37 individuals.
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- And they are people that politicized
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- Or weaponized intelligence
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- To advance personal, partisan
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- Or non-objective agendas,
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- Inconsistent with national security priorities,
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- Failure to safeguard classified information
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- In accordance with applicable laws,
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- Regulations, and agency policies, i.e., leaking,
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- Failure to adhere to professional
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- Analytic trade craft standards,
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- Also known as weaponizing, manipulating,
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- Changing the intelligence
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- To fit a different narrative than it shows,
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- And other conduct detrimental to the trust
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- And confidence required for continued access
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- To national security information.
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- Jordan, i know that you dealt
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- With this type of stuff a lot,
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- Working with the bob mueller probe,
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- Looking at things of this nature.
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- And we've seen this pattern.
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- This isn't going after the names, you know, necessarily,
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- This is going after the true deep state at this point.
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- - yeah, remember a lot of you know more
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- About these bureaucracies in the fbi
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- Than you ever have before,
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- Knowing who the director is, the deputy,
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- The deputy's assistant, that you can go on down.
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- Same thing goes for the department of justice
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- Because there've been some high-profile individuals
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- Taking on those roles.
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- But for the most part,
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- The most dangerous part of these governments
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- Are not always the political appointees.
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- Yes, you have clapper on this list and others,
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- It's the bureaucrats inside these organizations,
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- Whether it be any of the intelligence organizations
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- Who are the long-termers, the survivors
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- Who again believed that they could leak
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- Classified information without any negative recourse.
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- Yet remember they raided president trump's home,
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- A man who could declassify anything
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- At any time for any reason.
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- And they raided his home.
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- It took his own administration
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- To make sure that lower-level intelligence officers
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- Were following the basics of keeping a security clearance.
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- We're not even talking about criminal law yet.
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- We're talking about keeping a security clearance.
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- - this is, look, i think when every time someone says,
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- "oh, it's a bunch of nothing,
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- There's gonna be a list of names,
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- There's gonna be stuff happens.
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- Nothing's ever gonna get done."
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- This is active, this is happening,
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- This is getting done.
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- People are being removed from their security clearances.
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- That is a bigger deal than maybe you know of.
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- - yes, because you can't use it for your business anymore.
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- A lot of times these like military contractors,
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- You need to be, your security clearance
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- Gets you a better job.
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- - so remember, certain things can get done quickly.
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- This is one of them. of course.
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- Tulsi gabbard was a member of our team here
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- For many years before going on to,
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- I dunno, become the director of national intelligence.
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- Very cool, it's always great to see
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- When she makes some headlines and takes some action.
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- - our friend, former colleague,
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- Current director of national intelligence,
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- At the order of the president that, of course,
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- Tulsi gabbard has ordered the 37 security clearances
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- Be revoked.
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- These are people that were involved
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- In the "russiagate" situation.
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- People were involved in a lot
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- Of the obama administration,
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- People that still had their security clearance.
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- I don't know if people understand
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- Even how that process works,
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- That a lot of people retain their security clearance
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- Throughout, throughout maybe the rest of their lives
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- Because sometimes they're called in,
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- There's opportunities for them to do it.
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- And then jordan said a lot of times
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- They use this for their own corporate gain.
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- Now again, nothing wrong with that,
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- It's just part of the nature of the business.
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- But that being said,
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- Tulsi has stepped forward
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- And said here's what we're gonna do.
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- But this again, very different world,
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- Very different administration.
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- - here's also part of the problem as well.
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- And whenever you see this line in an article
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- By the legacy media,
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- Just go ahead and click away because it's unnecessary.
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- But they're already going after tulsi
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- Saying that she accused them of having engaged
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- In the politicization or weaponization of intelligence
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- To advance personal or partisan goals.
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- Failing to safeguard classified information,
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- Failing to adhere to professional
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- Analytic trade craft standards
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- And other detrimental conduct she did not describe
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- In the memo.
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- Then they say the memo offered no evidence
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- To support the accusations.
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- First of all,
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- She's been laying out the evidence for weeks now.
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- Second of all, this legacy media
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- Is the same legacy media that told us
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- If there were layoffs at the cia
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- And intelligence world at the dni because of doge,
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- That that's a national security risk.
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- 'cause those people that have security clearance
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- Might go to our enemies with the information.
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- - you gotta be careful who you're firing
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- Because those people are gonna go straight to russia.
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- - so maybe if the legacy media told us
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- That there are people that are bad actors
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- Within the intelligence community
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- That are so easily able to betray their country,
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- Commit treason,
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- That maybe you don't need a ton of evidence
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- For a memo saying, we're revoking your security clearance.
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- And actually that's the prerogative of the president
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- Who is the one who classifies everything.
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- The classification comes down
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- From the president of the united states.
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- - people get their security clearance revoked
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- For a lot less than what we're reading here.
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- I mean, not just intentional,
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- But just negligence alone.
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- And then there's many people
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- Who you would think would've no problem,
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- Who get rejected.
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- They go up the chain, up the chain
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- And they cannot get through the security clearance process.
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- There's also, as you said, there's one person
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- Who can strip these away immediately.
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- There's one person who can declassify anything.
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- There's also one person who can give a top security
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- Clearance to anyone they want to.
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- And that's the president of the united states.
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- President trump i think has done that temporarily
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- A couple of times when these business guys
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- Have joined the administration and their,
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- Their application for this could be 2,000 pages long.
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- So again, a lot of this goes back
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- To the presidential power being utilized
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- To get this bureaucracy under control.
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- And you've all wondered, where's the action?
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- Where do people finally get in trouble?
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- When do they lose their jobs?
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- Lemme tell you something,
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- When you lose this security clearance,
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- You're not working in intelligence anymore
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- And you're not nearly as valuable to defense contractors,
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- That military-industrial complex.
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- They don't wanna hire a bunch of former bureaucrats
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- Who have lost the access into that top-secret world.
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- - now, they may still keep their job on msnbc
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- Because they can wear that as a badge of honor.
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- Look, tulsi gabbard took away my security clearance
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- Because you know, i manipulated intelligence,
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- I lied to the american people, et cetera, et cetera.
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- - i definitely treat her like a boogeyman
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- Kind of situation every time she pops up.
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- And again, doing something that's not that uncommon.
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- It's uncommon maybe in these big sweeping digital moments.
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- Like i said, it's more uncommon
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- That we have her out there on the news
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- And that we have her putting up a youtube video
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- Talking about it.
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- And it's more, but that has been the transparency
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- Of not just this administration, but of tulsi
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- Since the beginning is, which is,
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- I'm going to tell you what i'm doing
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- And why i'm doing it.
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- - what i think tulsi is great for this position
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- And in the intel world is
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- We know how much she loves our country.
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- She served and continues that service
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- As long as possible, has done that throughout her career.
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- Didn't retire from reserves
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- While she was a member of congress or running for president.
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- And in the current position, i'm not sure how that works
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- When you're a cabinet secretary,
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- But i know she still does a lot with the troops
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- She's linked to.
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- The bottom line is her demeanor
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- Is the right person that balances with trump,
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- With president trump.
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- So president trump, you know,
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- We're getting rid of these 37 people,
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- Whereas tulsi gabbard can thoughtfully walk through
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- Why these 37 people should not have this access
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- And the reasons why they take these steps.
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- And she does it in a way that i think is very serious
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- About someone who cares little about partisan politics
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- And much more about the united states of america.
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- - well, and to your point as well, logan,
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- How she seems to be this boogeyman.
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- I think her calmness in the face of all the vitriol
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- That they will spew at her,
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- I think is what makes her more scary to them,
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- Is knowing that she wants to get the job done
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- And she's gonna do it with precision.
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- And i feel like they feel like they can go after trump
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- Maybe a little bit more because he is bombastic.
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- He loves the rhetorical joust.
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- But with tulsi gabbard, she's very clear.
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- She remains calm and she is decisive in her actions.
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- And i think that probably scares them more
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- To some degree because now she's going after people
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- That fed the american people this lie,
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- They weaponized our intelligence apparatus
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- Against the american people,
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- That we can't lose sight of that.
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- These people work for us.
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- These are members of the government.
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- The bureaucracy somehow thinks
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- That they're above the american people
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- And that they are above the president even.
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- They're not.
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- They work for us and there have to be consequences.
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- And now they're doing it.
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- And this is a great day for the united states.
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- - now we're gonna be joined by attorney general
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- Of west virginia, good friend j.b. mccuskey.
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- J.b., i'm gonna kick it over to some of these guys
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- 'cause there's been a lot of news
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- About what's been going on in washington d.c.
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- And calling up on the national guard
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- And what that means and what it looks like.
- 00:10:28.963 --> 00:10:30.197
- And we thought having someone like you
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- Who obviously has a part to play in that
- 00:10:32.032 --> 00:10:34.668
- Would be a good voice to hear from.
- 00:10:34.668 --> 00:10:36.570
- But will, why don't you kind of set us up.
- 00:10:36.570 --> 00:10:38.906
- - that's right.
- 00:10:38.906 --> 00:10:39.907
- So the state of west virginia
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- Has authorized some national guard troops
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- To go and assist the d.c. national guard
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- In their law enforcement operation
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- That president trump has authorized.
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- You as a top law enforcement official
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- In the state of west virginia,
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- I know you care a lot about law and order,
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- About the rule of law,
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- But why is it important that we see, one,
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- Both states with republican leadership
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- That are willing to send national guard
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- To assist with this,
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- But why is it important as a nation
- 00:11:07.434 --> 00:11:09.537
- Not just to individual states
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- That we see this mission come to fruition?
- 00:11:11.105 --> 00:11:14.375
- - yeah, so i think the first thing,
- 00:11:14.375 --> 00:11:16.143
- And thank you guys for having me,
- 00:11:16.143 --> 00:11:17.411
- Obviously it's great to see both of you.
- 00:11:17.411 --> 00:11:19.647
- What's important to note is that the national guard
- 00:11:19.647 --> 00:11:22.616
- Has a dual role and one of their two constitutional roles
- 00:11:22.616 --> 00:11:26.754
- Is precisely what is happening right now.
- 00:11:26.754 --> 00:11:28.989
- When the president has asked for these guards troops
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- To come in and work in a cleanup environment.
- 00:11:32.359 --> 00:11:35.696
- Everyone understands that washington d.c.
- 00:11:36.564 --> 00:11:38.799
- Is a super interesting and great place to take school trips
- 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.670
- And to take your family.
- 00:11:42.670 --> 00:11:44.071
- But it is also the seat of our federal government
- 00:11:44.071 --> 00:11:46.707
- And it is the place where the business
- 00:11:46.707 --> 00:11:48.509
- Of our country has to be done.
- 00:11:48.509 --> 00:11:50.578
- And it is the place where every citizen of this country
- 00:11:50.578 --> 00:11:53.647
- Needs to feel safe and welcome
- 00:11:53.647 --> 00:11:56.283
- In order to conduct their business
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- With the government that they have elected.
- 00:11:57.885 --> 00:11:59.820
- And so what president trump is saying here
- 00:11:59.820 --> 00:12:02.289
- Is that this city, washington, d.c.
- 00:12:02.289 --> 00:12:05.025
- And you know, i've lived in d.c. with you guys
- 00:12:05.025 --> 00:12:07.661
- In various times in my life,
- 00:12:07.661 --> 00:12:09.763
- It must be a place where every american person
- 00:12:09.763 --> 00:12:13.267
- Feels safe and welcome to come
- 00:12:13.267 --> 00:12:15.336
- And hold their government accountable.
- 00:12:15.336 --> 00:12:17.338
- That is part of the american experience, right?
- 00:12:17.338 --> 00:12:20.241
- There's maybe no other more important thing
- 00:12:20.241 --> 00:12:22.643
- That d.c. can do than that.
- 00:12:22.643 --> 00:12:24.445
- And so he felt, and it appears that the mayor
- 00:12:24.445 --> 00:12:27.248
- And the police chief there in d.c. agree
- 00:12:27.248 --> 00:12:30.484
- That some added resources, some added law enforcement folks
- 00:12:30.484 --> 00:12:35.322
- On the streets of d.c. would go a long way
- 00:12:35.322 --> 00:12:37.958
- To getting them a real kickstart into cleaning d.c. up
- 00:12:37.958 --> 00:12:41.228
- And turning it into the beautiful, amazing city
- 00:12:41.228 --> 00:12:43.163
- That we all know that it can be.
- 00:12:43.163 --> 00:12:45.132
- It's also important to note that west virginia's
- 00:12:45.132 --> 00:12:46.967
- Eastern border is only about 30 miles from d.c.
- 00:12:46.967 --> 00:12:50.537
- We have thousands of west virginia residents
- 00:12:50.537 --> 00:12:52.406
- Who ride the train or drive in every day
- 00:12:52.406 --> 00:12:54.808
- To work in the district of columbia.
- 00:12:54.808 --> 00:12:56.176
- So there is a pretty significant nexus
- 00:12:56.176 --> 00:12:58.412
- Between west virginia and the district of columbia
- 00:12:58.412 --> 00:13:00.781
- And why our guards troops would've been and are
- 00:13:00.781 --> 00:13:03.617
- A very reasonable pot of law enforcement folks
- 00:13:03.617 --> 00:13:07.721
- To dip into.
- 00:13:07.721 --> 00:13:09.056
- And we have somewhere in the neighborhood of
- 00:13:09.056 --> 00:13:10.324
- 6,800 guardsmen here in west virginia and women.
- 00:13:10.324 --> 00:13:14.194
- And so this is a very, very small portion of that.
- 00:13:14.194 --> 00:13:17.264
- And obviously if any kind of natural disaster comes up,
- 00:13:17.264 --> 00:13:20.200
- They'll head right back home
- 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.403
- And take care of their other duties as guards people.
- 00:13:22.403 --> 00:13:25.172
- - you also have some news, some big news
- 00:13:25.172 --> 00:13:27.174
- Because this is something i remember talking to you about
- 00:13:27.174 --> 00:13:29.710
- In between the time you were elected,
- 00:13:29.710 --> 00:13:31.745
- Even when you were running for office
- 00:13:31.745 --> 00:13:33.480
- And ran for this office and then after you won
- 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.051
- And then even on inauguration day,
- 00:13:37.051 --> 00:13:39.553
- The opioid crisis in west virginia
- 00:13:39.553 --> 00:13:42.556
- And you as attorney general and your team
- 00:13:42.556 --> 00:13:44.992
- Are taking action directly against those
- 00:13:44.992 --> 00:13:47.828
- Who are responsible for the loss of so many lives,
- 00:13:47.828 --> 00:13:50.698
- For the addiction of so many people
- 00:13:50.698 --> 00:13:52.566
- And just families ruined.
- 00:13:52.566 --> 00:13:53.901
- Tell people about how west virginia
- 00:13:53.901 --> 00:13:56.003
- And your office as attorney general is taking action.
- 00:13:56.003 --> 00:13:59.940
- - yeah, so to everybody out there
- 00:13:59.940 --> 00:14:02.443
- And the opioid crisis is not limited
- 00:14:02.443 --> 00:14:05.746
- To places like west virginia.
- 00:14:05.746 --> 00:14:07.047
- Sometimes if you're here it feels like it
- 00:14:07.047 --> 00:14:09.049
- Because we have, you know, a myriad of other problems.
- 00:14:09.049 --> 00:14:11.285
- But the opioid crisis has affected families
- 00:14:11.285 --> 00:14:14.054
- Throughout this country,
- 00:14:14.054 --> 00:14:15.356
- Whether they're rich or poor or black or white
- 00:14:15.356 --> 00:14:17.758
- Or christian or jewish or you name it.
- 00:14:17.758 --> 00:14:19.960
- The opioid crisis has affected communities
- 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:23.030
- And families and children all over this country
- 00:14:23.030 --> 00:14:25.432
- And in no other place was it more prevalent than here.
- 00:14:25.432 --> 00:14:28.268
- And we have sued as of yesterday a company
- 00:14:28.268 --> 00:14:31.305
- Called express scripts,
- 00:14:31.305 --> 00:14:32.806
- Which is a pharmacy benefit manager.
- 00:14:32.806 --> 00:14:35.209
- And what pharmacy benefit managers essentially are,
- 00:14:35.209 --> 00:14:37.277
- Is the middleman between pharmaceutical companies
- 00:14:37.277 --> 00:14:40.214
- And insurance companies and pharmacies.
- 00:14:40.214 --> 00:14:43.117
- And so what express scripts had a very unique ability
- 00:14:43.117 --> 00:14:47.154
- To do was they were the only ones that had the data.
- 00:14:47.154 --> 00:14:50.124
- They knew which doctors were prescribing these pills,
- 00:14:50.124 --> 00:14:52.659
- Which pharmacies were dispensing them,
- 00:14:52.659 --> 00:14:54.194
- And which patients and how many of these pills
- 00:14:54.194 --> 00:14:56.663
- Were being dispensed in what locations.
- 00:14:56.663 --> 00:14:58.465
- And instead of taking that very, very unique perspective
- 00:14:58.465 --> 00:15:01.935
- And seeing at very early stages
- 00:15:01.935 --> 00:15:04.438
- That these drugs were being over-prescribed
- 00:15:04.438 --> 00:15:07.408
- And prescribed in ways that were noticeably dangerous,
- 00:15:07.408 --> 00:15:10.177
- Instead of saying, "hey, we need to pump the brakes here."
- 00:15:10.177 --> 00:15:14.314
- They actually, and what we believe is
- 00:15:14.314 --> 00:15:16.316
- That they doubled down on the marketing aspects
- 00:15:16.316 --> 00:15:18.652
- Of these drugs, moved them up in the formulary
- 00:15:18.652 --> 00:15:21.088
- So that they'd be marketed more,
- 00:15:21.088 --> 00:15:22.656
- Added rebate schedules so that people would get paid more
- 00:15:22.656 --> 00:15:26.360
- For prescribing these drugs.
- 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:27.995
- And thus we're one of the main architects,
- 00:15:27.995 --> 00:15:30.564
- If not the most important player in the explosion
- 00:15:30.564 --> 00:15:34.334
- Of these drugs in the coal and other communities
- 00:15:34.334 --> 00:15:37.037
- Here in west virginia.
- 00:15:37.037 --> 00:15:38.138
- And so we filed a 200-page lawsuit
- 00:15:38.138 --> 00:15:41.408
- And we're really excited to get started
- 00:15:41.408 --> 00:15:43.977
- Holding them accountable for the harm
- 00:15:43.977 --> 00:15:45.412
- That they've done to the people here in west virginia.
- 00:15:45.412 --> 00:15:48.549
- - opioids, taking on these big businesses and clients
- 00:15:48.549 --> 00:15:51.552
- For the safety of our children and families.
- 00:15:51.552 --> 00:15:53.187
- Thank you j.b.
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- We'll be right back.
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- - welcome back to "sekulow."
- 00:16:03.723 --> 00:16:05.291
- We are now joined by ric grenell.
- 00:16:05.291 --> 00:16:07.727
- Ric, you've making some headlines
- 00:16:07.727 --> 00:16:09.395
- And making some x posts.
- 00:16:09.395 --> 00:16:11.497
- The new cool gavin newsom account is, you know,
- 00:16:11.497 --> 00:16:15.735
- Starting to shake things up.
- 00:16:15.735 --> 00:16:17.503
- Will, it's clearly him posting all these fun memes,
- 00:16:17.503 --> 00:16:21.040
- You know, getting into it, calling you insults there ric.
- 00:16:21.040 --> 00:16:24.477
- Another moment where the newsom team
- 00:16:24.477 --> 00:16:27.947
- Tries so desperately to be cool, to be relevant.
- 00:16:27.947 --> 00:16:31.551
- And you know what?
- 00:16:31.551 --> 00:16:32.752
- Sadly there's sure a big group going,
- 00:16:32.752 --> 00:16:33.853
- "oh, look at this.
- 00:16:33.853 --> 00:16:35.021
- Finally, someone having fun here."
- 00:16:35.021 --> 00:16:37.156
- To me, of course i look at it
- 00:16:37.156 --> 00:16:38.558
- And just you could see it's cringey how phony it is.
- 00:16:38.558 --> 00:16:42.328
- What we know is gavin newsom keeps reinventing himself.
- 00:16:43.429 --> 00:16:44.063
- - it's consistently phony.
- 00:16:44.063 --> 00:16:45.331
- What we know is gavin newsom keeps reinventing himself.
- 00:16:45.331 --> 00:16:47.800
- I think he keeps trying to find a new version
- 00:16:47.800 --> 00:16:51.237
- Of himself that's likable because remember
- 00:16:51.237 --> 00:16:53.606
- He's launched like five podcasts now.
- 00:16:53.606 --> 00:16:56.409
- He keeps renaming them and coming up with new gimmicks.
- 00:16:56.409 --> 00:16:59.779
- Then he hired this new twitter team,
- 00:16:59.779 --> 00:17:02.748
- Which is so obviously not him
- 00:17:02.748 --> 00:17:05.318
- Because suddenly it's like whiplash on his twitter feed
- 00:17:05.318 --> 00:17:09.322
- And he's attacking people.
- 00:17:09.322 --> 00:17:11.824
- Yesterday he called me the janitor
- 00:17:11.824 --> 00:17:14.193
- At the kennedy center
- 00:17:14.193 --> 00:17:15.861
- To which my response was,
- 00:17:15.861 --> 00:17:17.296
- "why are you making fun of working-class people?"
- 00:17:17.296 --> 00:17:19.832
- I don't understand why we are supposed to,
- 00:17:19.832 --> 00:17:23.803
- As you know, politicians or people in leadership
- 00:17:23.803 --> 00:17:27.907
- Look down on people who are, you know,
- 00:17:27.907 --> 00:17:31.244
- Teachers, janitors, working class.
- 00:17:31.244 --> 00:17:33.813
- My brother is a truck driver
- 00:17:33.813 --> 00:17:35.681
- And he is one of the smartest people i know
- 00:17:35.681 --> 00:17:37.183
- Because he's so informed.
- 00:17:37.183 --> 00:17:39.785
- And so i think we've just gotta get to the point
- 00:17:39.785 --> 00:17:43.022
- In our country where these elites stop making fun
- 00:17:43.022 --> 00:17:46.792
- Of people that maybe they can't relate to
- 00:17:46.792 --> 00:17:49.228
- But who just don't have the level of maybe sophistication
- 00:17:49.228 --> 00:17:54.467
- That they want them to.
- 00:17:54.967 --> 00:17:56.435
- I'd much rather be with the janitors
- 00:17:56.435 --> 00:17:58.971
- And the truck drivers than with gavin newsom.
- 00:17:58.971 --> 00:18:02.575
- - i mean, you'd probably look at the numbers
- 00:18:02.575 --> 00:18:03.843
- Of how many people work in sanitation or health
- 00:18:03.843 --> 00:18:07.346
- Or janitorial services in the state of california.
- 00:18:07.346 --> 00:18:09.915
- And i'm sure it is a large amount
- 00:18:09.915 --> 00:18:12.418
- Of your voter base and you decided for some reason
- 00:18:12.418 --> 00:18:14.654
- To call that an insult.
- 00:18:14.654 --> 00:18:15.588
- Look at, at the kennedy center.
- 00:18:15.588 --> 00:18:17.023
- I'm sure you do employ quite a few of those people
- 00:18:17.023 --> 00:18:19.358
- As you should, as you have to
- 00:18:19.358 --> 00:18:20.960
- When you're running, i don't know, a theater, an arena,
- 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:22.862
- Anything like that.
- 00:18:22.862 --> 00:18:23.996
- So when you do those kind of moments,
- 00:18:23.996 --> 00:18:25.431
- I do think you have to have, look, i'll be honest,
- 00:18:25.431 --> 00:18:27.466
- We have a social media team.
- 00:18:27.466 --> 00:18:29.302
- It's very clear, i think when no one thinks
- 00:18:29.302 --> 00:18:31.737
- That some of the stuff posted is like individually
- 00:18:31.737 --> 00:18:33.673
- Being posted by each one of our people.
- 00:18:33.673 --> 00:18:35.908
- No, but we're also remember what not pretending it is.
- 00:18:35.908 --> 00:18:38.444
- And the other thing about it is,
- 00:18:38.444 --> 00:18:41.347
- You have to make sure you have the right people there
- 00:18:41.347 --> 00:18:44.216
- Who understand your voice.
- 00:18:44.216 --> 00:18:45.751
- And if they don't, they step in it just like this
- 00:18:45.751 --> 00:18:48.654
- Where all of a sudden you have insulted,
- 00:18:48.654 --> 00:18:50.623
- I can't even imagine how many californians.
- 00:18:50.623 --> 00:18:54.093
- - well, and i mean, i don't wanna play devil's advocate
- 00:18:54.093 --> 00:18:56.362
- Here, but ric, i feel like whoever they did hire
- 00:18:56.362 --> 00:18:59.532
- Kind of nailed his voice
- 00:18:59.532 --> 00:19:01.200
- Because what did they do?
- 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.336
- His account mocked working-class people.
- 00:19:03.336 --> 00:19:06.739
- This is the same guy
- 00:19:06.739 --> 00:19:08.107
- That went to french laundry during covid.
- 00:19:08.107 --> 00:19:10.609
- When no one else was allowed to even go do their jobs.
- 00:19:10.609 --> 00:19:13.913
- The working-class people.
- 00:19:13.913 --> 00:19:15.214
- - i'm just step in real quick.
- 00:19:15.214 --> 00:19:16.382
- This is just a quick google search
- 00:19:16.382 --> 00:19:17.650
- For the u.s. bureau of labor statistics.
- 00:19:17.650 --> 00:19:18.818
- 245,790 janitors and cleaners
- 00:19:18.818 --> 00:19:22.054
- In the state of california in may of 2023.
- 00:19:22.054 --> 00:19:25.424
- So, i mean, that is not insignificant.
- 00:19:25.424 --> 00:19:27.693
- - i'll take every one of their votes
- 00:19:28.461 --> 00:19:30.563
- And all of their hard work.
- 00:19:31.163 --> 00:19:33.432
- Look, let me just make one thing clear.
- 00:19:33.432 --> 00:19:36.001
- I don't employ a single person
- 00:19:36.001 --> 00:19:38.003
- To run my social media.
- 00:19:38.003 --> 00:19:39.705
- I run my social media
- 00:19:39.705 --> 00:19:42.208
- And sometimes i would say that, you know,
- 00:19:43.109 --> 00:19:46.812
- I probably go too far and i have to dial it back.
- 00:19:47.813 --> 00:19:51.417
- But it's all me and it's my authentic voice
- 00:19:51.417 --> 00:19:55.321
- Because, you know, i actually like calling out
- 00:19:55.321 --> 00:19:59.892
- These hypocrites who call themselves,
- 00:19:59.892 --> 00:20:02.828
- You know, politicians.
- 00:20:02.828 --> 00:20:04.563
- Look, i hope that the democrats nominate gavin newsom.
- 00:20:04.563 --> 00:20:08.634
- I just don't believe that he will ever work
- 00:20:08.634 --> 00:20:11.637
- In a swing state.
- 00:20:11.637 --> 00:20:13.439
- People in ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin,
- 00:20:13.439 --> 00:20:16.575
- They're gonna be able to tell how, you know,
- 00:20:16.575 --> 00:20:18.144
- Authentic he is.
- 00:20:18.144 --> 00:20:19.879
- He's like a robot.
- 00:20:20.312 --> 00:20:21.347
- His sounds, his hands, his hair,
- 00:20:21.347 --> 00:20:24.950
- Everything about him is totally contrived,
- 00:20:24.950 --> 00:20:27.019
- Focus-tested.
- 00:20:27.019 --> 00:20:28.254
- I hope that they do turn to him.
- 00:20:28.254 --> 00:20:31.724
- He's term-limited. so he's done.
- 00:20:31.724 --> 00:20:34.460
- And i pray to god that he jumps
- 00:20:34.460 --> 00:20:36.662
- Into the presidential race
- 00:20:36.662 --> 00:20:38.063
- Because i think he implodes really fast
- 00:20:38.063 --> 00:20:40.466
- Once he gets outside of california.
- 00:20:40.466 --> 00:20:42.334
- - and you're right ric, that it feels like
- 00:20:42.334 --> 00:20:44.270
- Every time he makes this brand move, it's so drastic.
- 00:20:44.270 --> 00:20:48.407
- All the goodwill you may have thought
- 00:20:48.407 --> 00:20:50.009
- He could have had by interviewing charlie kirk,
- 00:20:50.009 --> 00:20:52.111
- By doing all of that, all of a sudden clearly did not work.
- 00:20:52.111 --> 00:20:54.980
- It clearly did not resonate with the right people,
- 00:20:54.980 --> 00:20:56.982
- Or his team doesn't think it did.
- 00:20:56.982 --> 00:20:58.584
- So let's just knee-jerk reaction
- 00:20:58.584 --> 00:21:00.119
- Go completely the opposite direction.
- 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.421
- And you're right, it just screams inauthentic.
- 00:21:02.421 --> 00:21:05.891
- It screams elitist.
- 00:21:05.891 --> 00:21:07.626
- And it's unfortunate, you know, you're not wendy's, okay?
- 00:21:07.626 --> 00:21:10.629
- You're gavin newsom, you're the governor of the state.
- 00:21:10.629 --> 00:21:13.799
- You know, you can have fun on social media,
- 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.434
- There's nothing wrong with that.
- 00:21:15.434 --> 00:21:16.669
- But when you start throwing around jabs
- 00:21:16.669 --> 00:21:18.270
- And you start really just picking fights,
- 00:21:18.270 --> 00:21:20.206
- It just becomes, it just becomes lame.
- 00:21:20.206 --> 00:21:23.342
- - well, and ric, here's what i want to know
- 00:21:23.342 --> 00:21:25.044
- 'cause i'm starting to see a pattern,
- 00:21:25.044 --> 00:21:26.412
- But whether it's his hired social media team
- 00:21:26.412 --> 00:21:29.348
- Or gavin newsom himself,
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- He keeps going after you.
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- Why are you such a threat to gavin newsom?
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- - well, look, i think we're holding him to account
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- In some ways, you know, between the water problems,
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- I should say water management problems.
- 00:21:42.127 --> 00:21:43.963
- 'cause we live on the ocean.
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- We don't have a water problem.
- 00:21:45.331 --> 00:21:46.632
- We have a water management problem.
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- We don't have a forest and fire problem in california.
- 00:21:48.133 --> 00:21:51.136
- We have a forest and fire management problem
- 00:21:51.136 --> 00:21:53.939
- And we're calling him out.
- 00:21:53.939 --> 00:21:55.241
- And president trump has me as the point person
- 00:21:55.241 --> 00:21:58.110
- Really holding back some of these funds
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- That california is thinking
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- That they're just gonna automatically get.
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- And what we're saying is we're not going to give
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- These funds over to california
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- So that they make the same mistakes
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- And we have another fire
- 00:22:14.193 --> 00:22:15.628
- Because we don't have the reservoirs filled.
- 00:22:15.628 --> 00:22:18.664
- We don't know how to water management.
- 00:22:18.664 --> 00:22:20.966
- We still haven't fixed the problems
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- Of forest fires and forest management.
- 00:22:23.402 --> 00:22:27.506
- How do you do that? just through common sense.
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- Gavin newsom is out running for president.
- 00:22:30.976 --> 00:22:32.945
- He still hasn't fixed these.
- 00:22:32.945 --> 00:22:34.346
- And so our concern, president trump's concern is
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- If we somehow just allow this money
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- To be handed over to california,
- 00:22:39.618 --> 00:22:41.253
- They make the same mistakes
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- And we're gonna have another fire.
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- Look, last night i had an event
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- From my organization to fix california.
- 00:22:46.792 --> 00:22:49.762
- We had 150 people gathered in manhattan beach,
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- And they are outraged.
- 00:22:54.633 --> 00:22:56.435
- I would say 50 to 60 of the people that showed up
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- Lost their homes in the palisades.
- 00:23:00.906 --> 00:23:03.676
- They now live in manhattan beach where i live.
- 00:23:03.676 --> 00:23:07.313
- And they're outraged.
- 00:23:07.313 --> 00:23:08.914
- Many of these are democrats.
- 00:23:08.914 --> 00:23:10.282
- I talked to a woman last night from the palisades,
- 00:23:10.282 --> 00:23:12.318
- Who is a democrat who will never vote,
- 00:23:12.318 --> 00:23:15.220
- At least for the next couple of years for a democrat.
- 00:23:15.220 --> 00:23:18.824
- She's so outraged that the basic utilities,
- 00:23:18.824 --> 00:23:21.694
- We have the highest taxes, property taxes in the nation.
- 00:23:21.694 --> 00:23:26.098
- And these individuals saw a fire coming over the hill.
- 00:23:26.098 --> 00:23:29.935
- They went to turn on the water.
- 00:23:29.935 --> 00:23:31.637
- They had no water pressure.
- 00:23:31.637 --> 00:23:32.671
- They had no water.
- 00:23:32.671 --> 00:23:34.506
- These are just basic services.
- 00:23:34.506 --> 00:23:36.175
- Karen bass is a disaster.
- 00:23:36.175 --> 00:23:37.743
- But you know what? karen bass thinks that she's gonna win.
- 00:23:37.743 --> 00:23:39.945
- She's running again.
- 00:23:39.945 --> 00:23:41.513
- And i opened up the speech last night
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- And i said, "look, we're all outraged at karen bass.
- 00:23:43.816 --> 00:23:47.019
- We think there's no possible way she's gonna win."
- 00:23:47.019 --> 00:23:50.022
- She's running and her people are telling her
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- She's gonna win.
- 00:23:52.324 --> 00:23:53.626
- Now, that's pathetic.
- 00:23:53.626 --> 00:23:55.594
- I wanna meet the people who are gonna vote for karen bass
- 00:23:55.594 --> 00:23:58.597
- Because between karen bass and gavin newsom,
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- The people of california, common sense voters
- 00:24:02.267 --> 00:24:06.105
- See this as so lame.
- 00:24:06.105 --> 00:24:08.474
- They are not going to go for this again.
- 00:24:08.474 --> 00:24:10.509
- We've got a big moment in california
- 00:24:10.509 --> 00:24:11.910
- And i think that's why gavin newsom is afraid.
- 00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:14.580
- - i'm very curious about that, ric,
- 00:24:14.580 --> 00:24:15.848
- Because i know that a lot of people here
- 00:24:15.848 --> 00:24:17.316
- Are probably like, why are you spending so much time
- 00:24:17.316 --> 00:24:18.117
- On local news here?
- 00:24:18.117 --> 00:24:19.284
- California, west virginia,
- 00:24:19.284 --> 00:24:20.919
- You know, we're here in tennessee,
- 00:24:20.919 --> 00:24:21.854
- We are seeing a mass migration,
- 00:24:21.854 --> 00:24:23.022
- Obviously from california to tennessee.
- 00:24:23.022 --> 00:24:24.523
- Most of my friends from la are now here
- 00:24:24.523 --> 00:24:26.692
- Because of reasons like that.
- 00:24:26.692 --> 00:24:28.193
- And these aren't necessarily most conservative people.
- 00:24:28.193 --> 00:24:29.962
- These were people in the arts who just decided
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- They couldn't take it anymore.
- 00:24:31.864 --> 00:24:33.298
- And i think we have to always look to these big states
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- To see how things are going.
- 00:24:35.067 --> 00:24:36.335
- I mean, with karen bass in that situation,
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- I feel like you had the media,
- 00:24:37.970 --> 00:24:39.438
- She had the media so under control
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- That if you wanted to vote for anyone else,
- 00:24:41.540 --> 00:24:42.908
- Even a moderate democrat, you were ostracized.
- 00:24:42.908 --> 00:24:46.178
- You were all of a sudden the enemy.
- 00:24:46.178 --> 00:24:47.579
- If you just said, "you know, i don't know,
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- I wanna vote for this other more moderate democrat,"
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- Sorry, you're no longer welcome in california.
- 00:24:51.517 --> 00:24:54.586
- - "los angeles times" is the newsletter
- 00:24:55.454 --> 00:24:57.523
- For the democratic party.
- 00:24:57.523 --> 00:24:59.058
- It's a simple little newsletter.
- 00:24:59.058 --> 00:25:00.659
- It's not interesting anymore.
- 00:25:00.659 --> 00:25:02.127
- You don't even need to read it
- 00:25:02.127 --> 00:25:03.395
- Because you know exactly what they're gonna say.
- 00:25:03.395 --> 00:25:05.898
- They're gonna say the republican is bad,
- 00:25:05.898 --> 00:25:07.566
- The democrat is good.
- 00:25:07.566 --> 00:25:09.568
- It's tanking.
- 00:25:09.568 --> 00:25:11.403
- They're literally firing people left and right,
- 00:25:11.403 --> 00:25:14.273
- Laying people off.
- 00:25:14.273 --> 00:25:15.674
- And so that's the largest newspaper in the state.
- 00:25:15.674 --> 00:25:18.711
- And the media are, you know,
- 00:25:18.711 --> 00:25:21.046
- They're not even jumping on the fact
- 00:25:21.046 --> 00:25:22.414
- That the governor of the state is mocking janitors.
- 00:25:22.414 --> 00:25:26.251
- The media are like largely silent in california.
- 00:25:26.251 --> 00:25:29.955
- Now, if i mocked janitors,
- 00:25:29.955 --> 00:25:32.791
- They would be mocking me for three straight days.
- 00:25:32.791 --> 00:25:36.061
- And i would have an editorial in the "los angeles times."
- 00:25:36.061 --> 00:25:39.064
- And so it's just a double standard.
- 00:25:39.064 --> 00:25:41.166
- Everybody knows it.
- 00:25:41.166 --> 00:25:42.568
- We don't care anymore about the "los angeles times."
- 00:25:42.568 --> 00:25:45.070
- They're totally irrelevant, but gavin newsom does.
- 00:25:45.070 --> 00:25:48.040
- And he's feeling the heat from the pressure
- 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:50.709
- And the fact that californians are sick and tired
- 00:25:50.709 --> 00:25:54.179
- Of bad politicians ruining our state,
- 00:25:54.179 --> 00:25:57.382
- And we're gonna do something about it.
- 00:25:57.382 --> 00:25:59.451
- So we're organized.
- 00:25:59.451 --> 00:26:01.553
- - we're very thankful you're there, ric,
- 00:26:01.553 --> 00:26:02.888
- A state that, you know, again,
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- I don't write anyone off,
- 00:26:04.456 --> 00:26:05.891
- I don't write any states off, any areas off,
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- Whether it's new york, california,
- 00:26:07.726 --> 00:26:09.094
- These places are some of our shining cities.
- 00:26:09.094 --> 00:26:12.431
- These should be the ones that everyone goes to,
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- The tourist capitals where people think of america,
- 00:26:14.299 --> 00:26:16.301
- They think of these places
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- And we gotta make sure that they're being
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- Properly managed and handled.
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- You want people living there.
- 00:26:20.439 --> 00:26:21.640
- You want people to come as tourists.
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- And then you should think about that
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- For a worldwide economy.
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