Midterm Elections - Think. Pray. Vote.

October 31, 2022 | 51 | 52:38

Kirk Cameron is joined by Pastor Jack Hibbs and Concerned Women for America CEO & President Penny Nance to discuss issues on the minds of Americans leading up to the election and Christian engagement in the public square in this season.

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Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | Midterm Elections - Think. Pray. Vote. | October 31, 2022
  • - november 8, 2022 is america's next
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  • Midterm election.
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  • Don't change the channel.
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  • You don't want to miss these
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  • Thoughtful conversations.
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  • We're going to talk about the issues on the hearts
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  • And minds of americans leading up to the
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  • Election and how we can process, participate, and
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  • Engage in this cultural moment well honoring god,
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  • Our families, and our communities.
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  • What's at sustaining for the country?
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  • And what can we do to help?
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  • Let's think and pray together on these topics
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  • And more with our phenomenal guests right
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  • Now on takeaways.
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  • - liberty to spend a dollar the way you want
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  • To, liberty to go to the beach on saturday
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  • And church on sun day.
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  • If you think that's important, then you need
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  • To vote for the right people.
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  • - courage is contagious.
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  • It just takes one person in a room to say,
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  • Wait a minute.
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  • I disagree with that.
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  • And then others are like, you know what?
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  • I do too, but i was afraid to say anything.
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  • - joining us now is the senior and founding
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  • Pastor of calvary chapel chino hills, jack hibbs.
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  • Jack's numerous ministries reach from
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  • West africa to the south pacific.
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  • Jack, thanks so much for joining us again
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  • On takeaways.
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  • - kirk, i'm honored.
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  • Thank you, brother.
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  • - so jack, we've got a big big election coming
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  • Up, and everyone knows about the presidential
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  • Elections when those come up but not so much with
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  • The midterm elections although we're hearing a
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  • Lot more about it this time because of this
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  • Cultural moment that we're in, so should this
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  • Be on our minds as christians?
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  • Is this something that's on your mind?
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  • - listen, it's obviously on my mind as
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  • It is on yours, and the christian and the caring
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  • Citizen of this nation must discipline
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  • Themselves right now to get involved in
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  • This midterm.
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  • Somebody's going to ask, why?
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  • Because what we're talking about regarding
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  • Congress and the senate we're looking at what
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  • Could be a shift that will stop the crazy, that
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  • Will stop the direction this nation is going and
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  • We must take this midterm so seriously, kirk, like
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  • Never before.
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  • This is something that could really
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  • Preserve life.
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  • It could preserve the republic.
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  • It could preserve our military.
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  • This vote could be quite frankly more important
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  • Even than the presidency in 2024 because if the
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  • Conservative biblical world view mind gets out
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  • And votes and we go back to our nation's roots in
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  • Our ethics and in our belief system that
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  • Whoever is president could actually either
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  • Have no power at all or tremendous power because
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  • Of the congress, the senate.
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  • So yes, it's an extremely big deal, and we're
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  • Making a lot of noise about that.
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  • - so this is a chance for people who have faith
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  • And character to put representatives in place
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  • That represent our values and if we don't do that,
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  • We leave the leadership of the country up to
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  • People with inferior values who will crush
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  • Over the good values.
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  • Is that a right understanding?
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  • - you're exactly right.
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  • Sir edmund burke said all that evil needs to do to
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  • Triumph is for good men to do nothing.
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  • Allow me to say it like this.
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  • Please do the right thing.
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  • That's called doing righteousness.
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  • It's when nobody is looking or when
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  • Everybody's is looking, you do the right thing.
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  • And the right thing is to vote to defend the
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  • Republic god has given us as believers, so we need
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  • To be good stewards over the freedoms god has
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  • Given us.
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  • If we sit it out, kirk, then we're throwing the
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  • Gift god gave us through our founding fathers,
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  • We're throwing that right into the camp of the
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  • Enemy, and it's not any longer, well, i don't
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  • Know if i'm going to vote or not.
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  • In this country, thank god still to this moment,
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  • We don't change governments with bombs
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  • And guns.
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  • We're not like some banana republic somewhere
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  • In the world.
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  • We actually change or government by using a pen
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  • And a ballot.
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  • It is absolutely amazing.
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  • My fear, kirk, is that too many people have
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  • Gotten content, happy, i don't know, lazy.
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  • They're not defending what has been given to us.
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  • God bless our military, but listen, our military
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  • Is trusting us to give them good leaders, and
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  • Our part is to vote in a way that honors a
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  • Judeo-christian worldview value.
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  • Granted, not every candidate can walk on
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  • Walk on water.
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  • Jesus' name is not on the ballot.
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  • The messiah is not coming on air force one, but
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  • There's somebody on the ballot that is better
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  • Than the other guy or the other gal, and we need to
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  • Vote for that person who holds closest to our
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  • Biblical worldview value.
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  • - with this midterm election coming up, we're
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  • Not just electing whose going to make our laws
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  • But at the state level, we'll also be talking
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  • About electing governors and mayors and things
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  • That happen right in our own little communities,
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  • So it's not just a federal thing and it's
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  • Really very much a local thing that happens to me
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  • And my county and my community, right?
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  • - well, not only are you right but we all remember
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  • In this post covid 19 world the dynamic that
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  • Took place with governments and local
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  • Politics and churches, houses of worship.
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  • And so for us, let me underscore how
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  • Right you are.
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  • For us, our mayor goes to our church.
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  • Most of our police force goes to our church.
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  • We've got judges that attend our church.
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  • You say, what does that matter?
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  • It mattered huge during covid 19 because they
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  • Were giving us the encouragement to keep
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  • Doing what we're doing.
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  • And what does this mean?
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  • It means really the most basic government is your
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  • Local government.
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  • - that's right.
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  • - you got to get involved.
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  • You got to get involved in pta, school board,
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  • Mayor, city council.
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  • Get involved.
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  • - that's exactly right.
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  • You know, again i've been learning this from guys
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  • Like you and my friend doctor marshall foster
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  • Who recently gone to be with the lord that the
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  • First form of government that god made was not the
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  • Federal government.
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  • It was actually self government.
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  • Adam was supposed to self govern in the garden and
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  • Not eat from the tree he wasn't supposed
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  • To eat from.
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  • - if the professing evangelicals would have
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  • Voted in the last 2 elections, we would have
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  • Had a different world here in america.
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  • - that's right.
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  • - you say, well democrat or republican?
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  • Forget that.
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  • Go read the platforms of the parties.
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  • It's very simple.
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  • It will take you a moment.
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  • That will tell you as a christian who to be
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  • Looking for.
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  • And then please apply this rule.
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  • It's foolproof.
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  • No matter what the candidate is saying,
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  • Kirk, on the commercial, just mute it, look up
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  • Their voting record because their voting
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  • Record never lies.
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  • They might say well, i'm pro-life, but they voted
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  • Against life, then they're lying to you when
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  • They're campaigning.
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  • Voting records are the proof positive of how you
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  • Should or should not vote for any candidate that's
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  • Running and if it's a fresh candidate, walk
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  • Right up to them and say look, you've got no-no
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  • Voting record.
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  • Where are you on family values, pro-life and
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  • Where are you on the definition of marriage?
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  • What do you think about local government,
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  • Federal government?
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  • Find out.
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  • And you know what?
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  • It's been my experience for decades, you're going
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  • To know where they stand in about 60 seconds by how
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  • They answer your question.
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  • - jack, sometimes you talk about the difference
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  • Between being political and being influential.
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  • What's the difference and should we be doing both?
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  • - yeah.
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  • I think there's a big difference.
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  • You mentioned the word government numerous times
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  • And so you should have.
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  • According to the bible in the book of exodus, god
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  • Is the one that instituted government.
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  • It's one of his sacred institutions.
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  • Marriage, the church, and government.
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  • Well, what's wrong?
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  • What's happened?
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  • We have politicized government.
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  • We've taken government that was to operate under
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  • The rule of god and we have injected man's
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  • Sovereignty, man's authority, and that's
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  • Called politics.
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  • That's where we step in as believers with good
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  • Stewardship and we get back to the government
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  • God has given us
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  • Like you said amazing,
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  • Declaration of independence, the bill of
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  • Rights, the constitution, nations of the world
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  • Covet our founding documents, our nation's
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  • Birth certificates.
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  • We need to get back to those things.
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  • If we don't, then politicians will politick
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  • Our citizenship.
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  • - jack, help us understand how our faith,
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  • Our christianity informs our understanding of
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  • What freedom is.
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  • Is freedom anything that we want to do or is
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  • Freedom something different for
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  • The christian?
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  • - i believe that liberty and freedom -- i happen to
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  • Agree with not only the bible but samuel adams
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  • Articulated this so well that thomas jefferson is
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  • The one that said there never would have been a
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  • Revolution without samuel adams understanding
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  • Of liberty.
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  • And sam adams said, i got my understanding of
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  • Liberty from the pastor at the church i go to.
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  • Liberty is something god puts in the human heart.
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  • Man craves to be free.
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  • The book of galatians chapter 5 verse 1 the
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  • Bible says to stand firm in the liberty that
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  • Christ has set us free and no longer become
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  • Entangled in the things of the past or the things
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  • Of this world.
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  • Absolutely the believer should understand liberty
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  • Better than anybody.
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  • We should be the greatest i think defenders of
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  • Liberty, and i think that we as citizens who love
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  • The lord first and we thank him for our nation,
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  • We need to speak up and we need to engage people
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  • To protect the liberty of this country.
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  • Imagine, liberty to go out tonight if you want
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  • To eat pizza, liberty to sleep in your own bed,
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  • Liberty to spend a dollar the way you want to,
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  • Liberty to go to the beach on saturday and
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  • Church on sunday.
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  • If you think that's important, then you need
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  • To vote for the right people.
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  • I mean, this is absolutely essential to
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  • Our existence.
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  • - i'm so thankful that we can be liberated not
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  • Only to do the things we want to do in this
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  • Country because we have the freedom to do that
  • 00:10:29.018 --> 00:10:31.353
  • But we're also liberated internally from the power
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  • And the penalty of sin which actually gives us
  • 00:10:34.690 --> 00:10:38.027
  • The right perspective to know what to protect.
  • 00:10:38.027 --> 00:10:40.996
  • - there is a liberty and freedom that is
  • 00:10:40.996 --> 00:10:43.065
  • Responsible and then there is a liberty and
  • 00:10:43.065 --> 00:10:45.434
  • Freedom that is perceived that leads to bondage.
  • 00:10:45.434 --> 00:10:48.471
  • If i exercise my right, for example, to go do
  • 00:10:48.471 --> 00:10:52.608
  • Whatever i want, you are actually changing the
  • 00:10:52.608 --> 00:10:56.378
  • Definition of liberty.
  • 00:10:56.378 --> 00:10:58.180
  • You're changing the definition of freedom
  • 00:10:58.180 --> 00:11:00.316
  • Because okay, yeah, sure, i'm free to go get drunk
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  • And go do whatever.
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  • And if i kill somebody, i'm immediately led
  • 00:11:05.988 --> 00:11:09.358
  • Into bondage.
  • 00:11:09.358 --> 00:11:10.426
  • That's not freedom.
  • 00:11:10.426 --> 00:11:11.961
  • Freedom demands and anticipates logic,
  • 00:11:11.961 --> 00:11:15.598
  • Reason, responsibility, and frankly, the fear
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  • Of god.
  • 00:11:20.269 --> 00:11:21.470
  • This is a key.
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  • We must be in awe of god again as a country.
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  • - yes.
  • 00:11:26.175 --> 00:11:27.376
  • - and that could cause me to drive
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  • The speed limit.
  • 00:11:28.844 --> 00:11:30.045
  • That's what's going to cause me to be nice to
  • 00:11:30.045 --> 00:11:31.881
  • Somebody i don't like.
  • 00:11:31.881 --> 00:11:33.048
  • I don't like them but god says jack, i love them
  • 00:11:33.048 --> 00:11:36.318
  • And you're to bless your neighbor, so i obey him
  • 00:11:36.318 --> 00:11:39.388
  • Instead of me, and everybody is blessed.
  • 00:11:39.388 --> 00:11:43.058
  • But when i choose to be my own leader, then i'm
  • 00:11:43.058 --> 00:11:46.529
  • Going to do what's right in my own eyes, and then
  • 00:11:46.529 --> 00:11:48.931
  • You'll have anarchy and kind of the country and
  • 00:11:48.931 --> 00:11:53.435
  • In some of the cities where people are doing
  • 00:11:53.435 --> 00:11:56.405
  • Whatever they want, and they're not free.
  • 00:11:56.405 --> 00:11:59.108
  • They're laying on the streets of l.a.
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  • Today wiped out on fentanyl because they
  • 00:12:01.710 --> 00:12:04.146
  • Thought they wanted to be free from god.
  • 00:12:04.146 --> 00:12:06.382
  • Never works right.
  • 00:12:06.382 --> 00:12:07.750
  • - so good.
  • 00:12:07.750 --> 00:12:08.951
  • 100% true.
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  • We will continue this conversation with jack
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  • Hibbs right after this.
  • 00:12:12.922 --> 00:12:14.356
  • Don't go away.
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  • [ music ]
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  • [ music ]
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  • - thanks everybody for staying with us.
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  • Jack, in our culture right now there are so
  • 00:12:30.670 --> 00:12:33.840
  • Many concerns, so many things that are worth
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  • Fighting for, so many things worth protecting.
  • 00:12:36.676 --> 00:12:39.245
  • How do we as christians discern the
  • 00:12:39.245 --> 00:12:41.280
  • Top tier issues?
  • 00:12:41.280 --> 00:12:43.115
  • - i think number one we are to have what you and
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  • I talk about so often on and off camera is the
  • 00:12:45.218 --> 00:12:48.454
  • Biblical worldview.
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  • That means that i'm to view the value of things
  • 00:12:50.223 --> 00:12:52.959
  • Around me based upon christ's assessment
  • 00:12:52.959 --> 00:12:55.494
  • Of things.
  • 00:12:55.494 --> 00:12:56.462
  • And the bible is very clear about this.
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  • I'm to love my wife, my kids, right.
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  • I am to be involved in the bringing up in my
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  • Family in a godly way.
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  • I can't run around and save the county and the
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  • City unless my home, right, is being loved and
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  • Taken care of.
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  • When we seek first the kingdom of god as
  • 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.149
  • Matthew 6:33 tells us jesus is speaking, everything else
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  • Falls into its place.
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  • So we must do the right thing.
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  • But there's some things that the bible assumes
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  • We're doing as believers and that is we've got a
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  • Heart to follow after god, and even tonight if
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  • We just decided i'm going to pursue god from
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  • This moment on
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  • California, texas, wherever you're at,
  • 00:13:35.902 --> 00:13:39.372
  • Colorado, you could wake up tomorrow and actually
  • 00:13:39.372 --> 00:13:42.341
  • Be taken your community by taking your home,
  • 00:13:42.341 --> 00:13:47.480
  • Husbands praying for their wives, praying for
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  • Their kids.
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  • I believe god will honor that and he's going to
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  • Take care of all the other things that are
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  • Happening, kirk, on the extremities.
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  • Take care of the core and he'll take care of things
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  • That are outward.
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  • I can't save los angeles, but i can sure get my
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  • Granddaughter and grand sons and my wife and my
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  • Children loved on by the example christ has called
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  • Me to do, so that's where we start.
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  • I know that sounds simplistic, but we can't
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  • Do it by the way without the power of the holy
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  • Spirit, but we've got to start there.
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  • We gotta go back there.
  • 00:14:22.348 --> 00:14:23.816
  • - jack, what guides you in your discernment to
  • 00:14:23.816 --> 00:14:26.786
  • Know when to speak up about a particular issue?
  • 00:14:26.786 --> 00:14:30.356
  • And we're talking about this in the context of
  • 00:14:30.356 --> 00:14:32.758
  • The elections coming up and all the issues that
  • 00:14:32.758 --> 00:14:35.561
  • We're concerned about, and then to know when to
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  • Keep quiet about things?
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  • And as a pastor, people are looking to you to say
  • 00:14:39.498 --> 00:14:42.101
  • Hey, what's the grid that i should have so that
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  • When issues come through, i can say i'm not talking
  • 00:14:45.037 --> 00:14:46.539
  • About that one.
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  • I'm going to let people deal with that on their
  • 00:14:48.007 --> 00:14:49.375
  • Own, or i'm going to speak up and make a fuss
  • 00:14:49.375 --> 00:14:52.345
  • About this?
  • 00:14:52.345 --> 00:14:53.579
  • - i get asked to get involved in more things
  • 00:14:53.579 --> 00:14:55.414
  • That i get involved in.
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  • I don't do it.
  • 00:14:57.783 --> 00:14:58.918
  • People will ask me, you need to speak out about
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  • This thing, that about that law and that
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  • And the other.
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  • And instantly the biblical rudder within me
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  • Said no, i tell you what.
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  • God bless you in that venture to do that.
  • 00:15:08.160 --> 00:15:10.696
  • I'm for you but that's not for me to speak out.
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  • I actually know god will make it really clear to
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  • Me, and there's only a few things by the way,
  • 00:15:18.938 --> 00:15:20.606
  • He'll make it really clear to me, jack, this
  • 00:15:20.606 --> 00:15:22.174
  • Is your wheelhouse.
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  • This is what i've called you to speak to.
  • 00:15:23.175 --> 00:15:24.844
  • And the number one thing in my life is, for example,
  • 00:15:24.844 --> 00:15:27.279
  • Here in california proposition 1.
  • 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.116
  • The governor is throwing out proposition 1.
  • 00:15:30.116 --> 00:15:33.052
  • Prop 1.
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  • You say what's prop 1?
  • 00:15:34.053 --> 00:15:36.455
  • They're doing everything to keep it quiet.
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  • Governor newsom and his team up in sacramento
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  • Believes they need to amend the state
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  • Constitution so that in response to roe v.
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  • Wade being overturned that the california state
  • 00:15:46.232 --> 00:15:49.168
  • Constitution needs to enshrine abortion all the
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  • Way up to, are sitting down, everybody, birth day.
  • 00:15:52.738 --> 00:15:56.409
  • The birth day of the baby.
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  • The baby can be killed on its birthday.
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  • That's prop 1.
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  • I am committed with every fiber bit i have, kirk,
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  • To stop prop 1.
  • 00:16:08.387 --> 00:16:09.755
  • You say, what gives you the passion?
  • 00:16:09.755 --> 00:16:11.357
  • God hates murder.
  • 00:16:11.357 --> 00:16:15.528
  • God demands us to protect the innocence of those
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  • Who have no ability to defend themselves.
  • 00:16:19.632 --> 00:16:21.367
  • That is something i don't have to pray about.
  • 00:16:21.367 --> 00:16:23.536
  • I mean, i pray god, how do i attack this issue that
  • 00:16:23.536 --> 00:16:26.639
  • Offends you, but those things like that.
  • 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.942
  • The mutilation of children now being done
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  • By doctors.
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  • The thing that's going on where it's so against
  • 00:16:34.313 --> 00:16:37.983
  • Science where god says i have made you male and
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  • Female, and then for us to redefine science.
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  • Oh, no, no.
  • 00:16:44.156 --> 00:16:45.157
  • Science has the same author as the bible.
  • 00:16:45.157 --> 00:16:48.694
  • It's the almighty god of scripture, so those
  • 00:16:48.694 --> 00:16:50.729
  • Things are passionate for me and if somebody gets
  • 00:16:50.729 --> 00:16:53.332
  • Mad at me, kirk,
  • 00:16:53.332 --> 00:16:54.600
  • That's okay.
  • 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:55.401
  • I can go to my bible.
  • 00:16:55.401 --> 00:16:56.869
  • That's the defining point.
  • 00:16:56.869 --> 00:16:58.404
  • The bible says this, so you can say anything you
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  • Want about me.
  • 00:17:00.773 --> 00:17:01.774
  • I love you anyway.
  • 00:17:01.774 --> 00:17:02.975
  • - jack, one of the phrases we often hear
  • 00:17:02.975 --> 00:17:05.311
  • Within the christian culture is that we are in
  • 00:17:05.311 --> 00:17:09.014
  • The world but not of the world.
  • 00:17:09.014 --> 00:17:10.983
  • What do you think about that phrase?
  • 00:17:10.983 --> 00:17:12.818
  • Sometimes i think it gets used, i think it's filled
  • 00:17:12.818 --> 00:17:15.287
  • With a right meaning and a wrong meaning.
  • 00:17:15.287 --> 00:17:18.157
  • Maybe it needs to be nuanced a little bit.
  • 00:17:18.157 --> 00:17:20.759
  • How do we apply that concept?
  • 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:22.661
  • - boy, i hope people keep watching after
  • 00:17:22.661 --> 00:17:24.930
  • I say this.
  • 00:17:24.930 --> 00:17:26.565
  • I kind of find the same statement connected with
  • 00:17:26.565 --> 00:17:29.401
  • The same announcement, well, brother, i just
  • 00:17:29.401 --> 00:17:33.839
  • Preach the gospel.
  • 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:35.574
  • I don't get involved in that other stuff.
  • 00:17:35.574 --> 00:17:37.376
  • I see those two statements
  • 00:17:37.376 --> 00:17:38.744
  • Trafficking together.
  • 00:17:38.744 --> 00:17:40.613
  • We need to realize something.
  • 00:17:40.613 --> 00:17:43.048
  • Faith, true faith is active.
  • 00:17:43.048 --> 00:17:46.051
  • Faith is a verb.
  • 00:17:46.051 --> 00:17:47.553
  • If you tell your wife you love her and never do a
  • 00:17:47.553 --> 00:17:51.190
  • Thing to express that or defend that or to promote
  • 00:17:51.190 --> 00:17:55.861
  • That, she's going to wind up doubting if your
  • 00:17:55.861 --> 00:17:58.264
  • Statement is true.
  • 00:17:58.264 --> 00:18:00.633
  • So i think it's augustine that said preach the
  • 00:18:00.633 --> 00:18:03.502
  • Gospel always and if necessary use words.
  • 00:18:03.502 --> 00:18:07.339
  • I love that.
  • 00:18:07.339 --> 00:18:09.441
  • We need to be active, showing our faith, and
  • 00:18:09.441 --> 00:18:12.978
  • That is in every area.
  • 00:18:12.978 --> 00:18:14.480
  • Jesus summed it up by saying let your light so
  • 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.582
  • Shine before men that when they see your good
  • 00:18:16.582 --> 00:18:18.817
  • Works, they'll glorify your father which is
  • 00:18:18.817 --> 00:18:20.686
  • In heaven.
  • 00:18:20.686 --> 00:18:21.854
  • - but what if you say, if i could push back
  • 00:18:21.854 --> 00:18:23.923
  • Here, jack, i want to say the guy who says wait a
  • 00:18:23.923 --> 00:18:25.925
  • Minute, no, no, no.
  • 00:18:25.925 --> 00:18:26.959
  • What we mean is my kingdom is not
  • 00:18:26.959 --> 00:18:29.161
  • Of this world.
  • 00:18:29.161 --> 00:18:30.329
  • I'm with jesus in heaven.
  • 00:18:30.329 --> 00:18:31.530
  • That's what i care about.
  • 00:18:31.530 --> 00:18:32.798
  • This world, not so much.
  • 00:18:32.798 --> 00:18:34.366
  • So hey, i'm just biding my time enjoying my chick-fil-a
  • 00:18:34.366 --> 00:18:39.305
  • And decorating my house with hobby lobby
  • 00:18:39.305 --> 00:18:41.140
  • Waiting for the rapture.
  • 00:18:41.140 --> 00:18:42.474
  • I don't need to get involved in
  • 00:18:42.474 --> 00:18:43.375
  • Midterm elections.
  • 00:18:43.375 --> 00:18:44.710
  • - yeah, exactly.
  • 00:18:44.710 --> 00:18:45.811
  • I would have them read the old testament and the
  • 00:18:45.811 --> 00:18:47.613
  • New testament.
  • 00:18:47.613 --> 00:18:48.714
  • Both testaments have got believers involved in
  • 00:18:48.714 --> 00:18:51.083
  • What's happening around them.
  • 00:18:51.083 --> 00:18:53.118
  • A.w. tozer said it has been my discovery to find those
  • 00:18:53.118 --> 00:18:56.889
  • That have done the most for this world are the
  • 00:18:56.889 --> 00:19:00.192
  • Ones who have waited for the world to come.
  • 00:19:00.192 --> 00:19:02.094
  • So here's the thing is that when we say i'm all
  • 00:19:02.094 --> 00:19:05.297
  • Heavenly minded,
  • 00:19:05.297 --> 00:19:07.333
  • I don't need to be earthly minded, no.
  • 00:19:07.333 --> 00:19:09.702
  • You're to be heavenly minded so it makes a
  • 00:19:09.702 --> 00:19:12.071
  • Difference here on earth.
  • 00:19:12.071 --> 00:19:13.405
  • We can not be passive in the face of evil.
  • 00:19:13.405 --> 00:19:15.841
  • The old and new testament knows nothing about us
  • 00:19:15.841 --> 00:19:19.678
  • Being passive and disengaged.
  • 00:19:19.678 --> 00:19:21.880
  • We are to be engaged and it's crystal clear on
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  • That, and i'll put a cap on it this way, when they
  • 00:19:26.018 --> 00:19:30.356
  • Brought a coin to jesus, they said, jesus,
  • 00:19:30.356 --> 00:19:33.892
  • Regarding taxes and authority and all, this
  • 00:19:33.892 --> 00:19:37.096
  • Is a coin for caesar.
  • 00:19:37.096 --> 00:19:40.266
  • So jesus held it up and said, whose inscription is
  • 00:19:40.266 --> 00:19:43.068
  • On the coin?
  • 00:19:43.068 --> 00:19:44.403
  • And they said, caesar's.
  • 00:19:44.403 --> 00:19:46.272
  • So jesus, brilliant, jesus said then render to
  • 00:19:46.272 --> 00:19:49.675
  • Caesar the things that are caesar's and to god
  • 00:19:49.675 --> 00:19:52.077
  • The things that are god's.
  • 00:19:52.077 --> 00:19:54.079
  • We don't get that in the west he were world but
  • 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.216
  • This all got it in an instant.
  • 00:19:57.216 --> 00:19:58.784
  • They knew rome belonged to god.
  • 00:19:58.784 --> 00:20:01.153
  • Italy belonged to god.
  • 00:20:01.153 --> 00:20:02.688
  • The roman empire belonged to god.
  • 00:20:02.688 --> 00:20:04.556
  • Caesar belonged to god.
  • 00:20:04.556 --> 00:20:05.891
  • The coin belonged to god.
  • 00:20:05.891 --> 00:20:07.559
  • Caesar's palace, caesar salad, it all
  • 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.162
  • Belonged to god.
  • 00:20:10.162 --> 00:20:12.064
  • [ laughter ] and they got that.
  • 00:20:12.064 --> 00:20:13.198
  • Everything, belongs, sacramento belongs to
  • 00:20:13.198 --> 00:20:14.933
  • God, washington dc belongs to god so that
  • 00:20:14.933 --> 00:20:18.671
  • Means it's under my jurisdiction to
  • 00:20:18.671 --> 00:20:19.938
  • Influence for good.
  • 00:20:19.938 --> 00:20:22.007
  • - but jack, someone might say, god
  • 00:20:22.007 --> 00:20:23.809
  • Is sovereign.
  • 00:20:23.809 --> 00:20:25.044
  • You know, we can toil away and do what we want
  • 00:20:25.044 --> 00:20:28.080
  • And you can get involved in politics if that's
  • 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:30.115
  • Your thing, but in the end god is going to
  • 00:20:30.115 --> 00:20:32.584
  • Determine everything.
  • 00:20:32.584 --> 00:20:33.752
  • So what is god's job and what is our job?
  • 00:20:33.752 --> 00:20:37.489
  • - yeah, first of all our job is to follow god who
  • 00:20:37.489 --> 00:20:40.125
  • Faithful at his job.
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  • Okay.
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  • So here's the thing.
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  • This way, god tells jonah, right, go to ninevah
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  • And announce to them i'm going to fry the place.
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  • Okay.
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  • Just walk around it and tell them they're all
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  • Going to burn up.
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  • I'm going to let them have it.
  • 00:20:56.208 --> 00:20:57.443
  • So jonah is very excited because the assyrian
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  • Empire was horrific and the capital was ninevah,
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  • So jonah being a good jew was so delighted god's
  • 00:21:02.548 --> 00:21:05.617
  • Going to fry their enemies, so he announces
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  • This horrific message of hey, you know, 40 days
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  • And you guys are going to fry, and what happens is
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  • The people begin to cry out to god.
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  • They repent.
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  • Everybody's fasting including the animals,
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  • And they go into a state of mourning.
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  • These are pagans crying out to the god of jews,
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  • And god said okay, wait. stop.
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  • Press the pause button, and god gave them 40
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  • Years of mercy.
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  • God is sovereign, but in his sovereignty, god
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  • Has built in his option to exercise mercy.
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  • The same goes for us.
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  • Listen, god has given us built in sovereignty.
  • 00:21:46.658 --> 00:21:49.928
  • We are to choose though.
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  • We are responsible for what we choose and what
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  • We do not choose knowing this, we don't get all
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  • The glory for being able to choose.
  • 00:21:56.368 --> 00:21:58.237
  • We thank god for giving us the ability to choose,
  • 00:21:58.237 --> 00:22:01.607
  • But that doesn't mean we're not responsible for
  • 00:22:01.607 --> 00:22:03.909
  • Our decisions.
  • 00:22:03.909 --> 00:22:05.077
  • God's not going to make you do something.
  • 00:22:05.077 --> 00:22:06.879
  • Thus, obedience, that requires choice,
  • 00:22:06.879 --> 00:22:10.182
  • Doesn't it?
  • 00:22:10.182 --> 00:22:11.316
  • God says obey me which means you have a choice.
  • 00:22:11.316 --> 00:22:13.719
  • God didn't make robots.
  • 00:22:13.719 --> 00:22:15.287
  • He made us in his image.
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  • You and i can create.
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  • We can love.
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  • We can choose to hate if we want to.
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  • - uh-huh. uh-huh.
  • 00:22:21.627 --> 00:22:22.995
  • - this is a serious issue.
  • 00:22:22.995 --> 00:22:24.997
  • I'm glad you brought it up.
  • 00:22:24.997 --> 00:22:26.432
  • We must choose to obey god that because god is
  • 00:22:26.432 --> 00:22:29.635
  • Sovereign and i'm called into obedience.
  • 00:22:29.635 --> 00:22:32.838
  • If i disobey, it's going to cost me.
  • 00:22:32.838 --> 00:22:35.240
  • So look, i believe the rapture of the church can
  • 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.876
  • Happen right now, but i'm also fighting for
  • 00:22:37.876 --> 00:22:40.813
  • My grandchildren.
  • 00:22:40.813 --> 00:22:42.247
  • And somebody might say, how do you do that?
  • 00:22:42.247 --> 00:22:44.683
  • It's easy.
  • 00:22:44.683 --> 00:22:46.051
  • The bible says occupy until i come, and that's
  • 00:22:46.051 --> 00:22:48.153
  • What i'm doing.
  • 00:22:48.153 --> 00:22:49.655
  • - what are some of the things that you're hoping
  • 00:22:49.655 --> 00:22:52.724
  • That christians are doing leading up to the
  • 00:22:52.724 --> 00:22:56.495
  • Midterm election?
  • 00:22:56.495 --> 00:22:57.396
  • Practically speaking.
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  • Praying, researching, educating, what are some
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  • Of the things that we should be mindful
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  • Of doing?
  • 00:23:03.735 --> 00:23:05.003
  • - number one thing, yes to what you just said but
  • 00:23:05.003 --> 00:23:07.372
  • Don't do it in a bubble.
  • 00:23:07.372 --> 00:23:09.107
  • Make sure your kids know -sit your kids down.
  • 00:23:09.107 --> 00:23:12.444
  • Show them the civics you're starting to do.
  • 00:23:12.444 --> 00:23:15.214
  • You're looking at websites.
  • 00:23:15.214 --> 00:23:16.281
  • You're looking at voting records, you're praying.
  • 00:23:16.281 --> 00:23:19.885
  • Kids, let's pray.
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  • You guys, we have an election coming up.
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  • Let's pray right now.
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  • Let's pray god gives us the best mayor or the
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  • Best governor.
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  • You get them involved and you get them involved in
  • 00:23:27.226 --> 00:23:29.928
  • The process, but by all means here and now, the
  • 00:23:29.928 --> 00:23:33.599
  • Voter needs to baptize themselves into the
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  • Things god has given us the ability right here
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  • And now to be responsible for.
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  • Kirk, this is a tremendous thing i'm
  • 00:23:43.675 --> 00:23:45.644
  • About to say.
  • 00:23:45.644 --> 00:23:46.912
  • Most people don't even know including those in
  • 00:23:46.912 --> 00:23:50.249
  • The pulpit, they don't even appreciate the scope
  • 00:23:50.249 --> 00:23:53.852
  • Of responsibility god has given us to be stewards,
  • 00:23:53.852 --> 00:23:58.657
  • That this nation -- i don't believe this nation is in
  • 00:23:58.657 --> 00:24:01.360
  • The hands of sacramento or dc.
  • 00:24:01.360 --> 00:24:03.762
  • I believe it's in the church's hands and that
  • 00:24:03.762 --> 00:24:06.865
  • Means i believe it's in the pulpit's hands, the
  • 00:24:06.865 --> 00:24:08.934
  • Pastor's hands.
  • 00:24:08.934 --> 00:24:10.335
  • The pastor in this hour, oh my gosh, this is our
  • 00:24:10.335 --> 00:24:14.039
  • Moment to be so on fire for jesus.
  • 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:16.441
  • It's so obvious we're living at the
  • 00:24:16.441 --> 00:24:18.043
  • Amazing moment.
  • 00:24:18.043 --> 00:24:19.678
  • The hour is ours if we want it.
  • 00:24:19.678 --> 00:24:21.680
  • He's extending us the opportunity of freedom
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  • To exercise.
  • 00:24:23.949 --> 00:24:25.183
  • If pulpits caught fire fearlessly right now,
  • 00:24:25.183 --> 00:24:29.054
  • This nation would turn in a moment because it would
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  • Be supernaturally blessed by god and he would turn
  • 00:24:31.256 --> 00:24:34.026
  • What seems impossible including california --
  • 00:24:34.026 --> 00:24:37.396
  • Look, i've not moved from this state.
  • 00:24:37.396 --> 00:24:39.665
  • I'm here fighting because it's my home.
  • 00:24:39.665 --> 00:24:43.936
  • And if any good thing can come out of
  • 00:24:43.936 --> 00:24:46.171
  • Nazareth well, it did.
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  • If anything good can come out of california, well
  • 00:24:48.206 --> 00:24:50.609
  • It just might because god can do a work here, and
  • 00:24:50.609 --> 00:24:54.446
  • I'm committed to that.
  • 00:24:54.446 --> 00:24:56.181
  • I pray that everybody in every state in every city
  • 00:24:56.181 --> 00:24:58.317
  • Would just do it for jesus.
  • 00:24:58.317 --> 00:25:01.186
  • Can you just get involved for jesus' sake?
  • 00:25:01.186 --> 00:25:03.188
  • Lay aside your reputation, lay aside
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  • What your friends might say or not say about you.
  • 00:25:05.924 --> 00:25:08.160
  • Do it for jesus.
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  • Let your light shine like you learned in
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  • Sunday school.
  • 00:25:11.496 --> 00:25:12.698
  • Don't put a basket over it.
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  • Just let it out there.
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  • - that's right.
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  • Oh, i'm so glad that you're saying this.
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  • Thanks for joining us.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • [ music ]
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  • [music]
  • 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:35.586
  • - penny nance is the ceo and president of
  • 00:25:35.586 --> 00:25:38.255
  • Concerned women for america.
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  • It's the nation's largest public policy
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  • Women's organization.
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  • She's a recognized national authority on cultural,
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  • Children's and women's issues, and i am
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  • Thrilled to have her with us today on takeaways.
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  • Penny, thanks so much for joining us.
  • 00:25:51.235 --> 00:25:53.337
  • - well, it's great to be here with you.
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  • I'm very excited. thank you for having me.
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  • - i think what you're doing is absolutely fantastic.
  • 00:25:57.208 --> 00:25:59.310
  • I want to get into this incredible bus tour.
  • 00:25:59.310 --> 00:26:01.312
  • You're traveling around the country with
  • 00:26:01.312 --> 00:26:02.980
  • "she prays, she votes," and i just want to ask you
  • 00:26:02.980 --> 00:26:06.684
  • On a personal level, what has you maybe anxious,
  • 00:26:06.684 --> 00:26:10.187
  • Maybe a little intrigued, maybe even concerned
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  • About this midterm election in particular.
  • 00:26:13.257 --> 00:26:17.395
  • - well, thank you for asking kirk.
  • 00:26:17.395 --> 00:26:19.497
  • Concerned women for america is the nation's
  • 00:26:19.497 --> 00:26:21.666
  • Largest public policy women's organization.
  • 00:26:21.666 --> 00:26:24.535
  • We're unapologetically pro-life, pro-family.
  • 00:26:24.535 --> 00:26:28.205
  • We're christian women.
  • 00:26:28.205 --> 00:26:29.807
  • We love our country, we love god,
  • 00:26:29.807 --> 00:26:31.942
  • We love our families.
  • 00:26:31.942 --> 00:26:33.210
  • And american families are in this situation because
  • 00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:36.881
  • Of inflation in which they're having difficulty
  • 00:26:36.881 --> 00:26:40.017
  • Paying their bills, putting gas in their car
  • 00:26:40.017 --> 00:26:42.953
  • To go to work, and as they sit down at the
  • 00:26:42.953 --> 00:26:45.890
  • Table, and by the way, it's statistically women to be
  • 00:26:45.890 --> 00:26:49.560
  • The ones who do that every day, every month,
  • 00:26:49.560 --> 00:26:52.630
  • And it's becoming more and more of a struggle.
  • 00:26:52.630 --> 00:26:56.133
  • So i am very concerned certainly about the economic
  • 00:26:56.133 --> 00:26:59.904
  • Issues, the struggles of american families,
  • 00:26:59.904 --> 00:27:02.940
  • But also the moral trajectory of our nation.
  • 00:27:02.940 --> 00:27:06.711
  • At the back of our bus it says honk if you
  • 00:27:06.711 --> 00:27:09.113
  • Know what a woman is.
  • 00:27:09.113 --> 00:27:10.614
  • This is the year of american parents.
  • 00:27:10.614 --> 00:27:13.084
  • Parents are so discouraged about what is
  • 00:27:13.084 --> 00:27:16.287
  • Happening, how their children are literally
  • 00:27:16.287 --> 00:27:18.222
  • Being targeted by pedophiles and just
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  • People who are ignorant, honestly,
  • 00:27:21.192 --> 00:27:22.960
  • In their classrooms.
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  • This is time for parents to step up.
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  • I just finished a stop in pennsylvania at
  • 00:27:27.098 --> 00:27:29.934
  • Grove city college.
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  • It was snowing by the way.
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  • And young women came out and they're very
  • 00:27:33.170 --> 00:27:34.972
  • Concerned about the issue of women's sports,
  • 00:27:34.972 --> 00:27:37.174
  • But more underneath that and more importantly is
  • 00:27:37.174 --> 00:27:40.311
  • Recognizing that god made male and female and that
  • 00:27:40.311 --> 00:27:44.715
  • We are created uniquely with dignity in his image.
  • 00:27:44.715 --> 00:27:49.086
  • And so it's almost, you can almost call it stolen
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  • Valor, the idea that you can simply suggest and
  • 00:27:51.555 --> 00:27:54.992
  • Decide one day that you're a woman without
  • 00:27:54.992 --> 00:27:57.328
  • Recognizing our experience,
  • 00:27:57.328 --> 00:27:59.797
  • That god created us uniquely,
  • 00:27:59.797 --> 00:28:02.533
  • Is very painful for women,
  • 00:28:02.533 --> 00:28:04.635
  • And at this moment you have the young women that
  • 00:28:04.635 --> 00:28:07.404
  • Are stepping forward to take it head on.
  • 00:28:07.404 --> 00:28:09.907
  • - penny, this is so inspiring,
  • 00:28:09.907 --> 00:28:11.809
  • So encouraging for so many people to hear you
  • 00:28:11.809 --> 00:28:13.878
  • Say this because it's what so many of us are
  • 00:28:13.878 --> 00:28:15.980
  • Thinking, and yet we live in a culture where we
  • 00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:18.149
  • Feel like we're being muffled,
  • 00:28:18.149 --> 00:28:19.416
  • And we even sensor ourselves because of the
  • 00:28:19.416 --> 00:28:21.852
  • Canceling and all of the punishment that comes
  • 00:28:21.852 --> 00:28:25.556
  • When you speak out, so thank you for speaking
  • 00:28:25.556 --> 00:28:27.892
  • Out on behalf of so many women.
  • 00:28:27.892 --> 00:28:30.227
  • And i love the sign that's right next to you.
  • 00:28:30.227 --> 00:28:33.097
  • We're reading it here, she prays and she votes,
  • 00:28:33.097 --> 00:28:36.233
  • And we think well shouldn't that just be obvious?
  • 00:28:36.233 --> 00:28:39.069
  • Shouldn't a woman who loves god,
  • 00:28:39.069 --> 00:28:41.305
  • Loves her country and loves her family pray?
  • 00:28:41.305 --> 00:28:43.741
  • Of course she should, but some are wondering
  • 00:28:43.741 --> 00:28:46.544
  • Whether or not voting is really important.
  • 00:28:46.544 --> 00:28:49.980
  • Would you speak to them right now.
  • 00:28:49.980 --> 00:28:51.949
  • Why should a woman who prays also
  • 00:28:51.949 --> 00:28:54.618
  • Be a woman who votes?
  • 00:28:54.618 --> 00:28:56.353
  • - i truly believe that it is your duty as a
  • 00:28:56.353 --> 00:28:58.956
  • Believer to work to pick godly leaders and to
  • 00:28:58.956 --> 00:29:02.927
  • Protect religious freedom.
  • 00:29:02.927 --> 00:29:05.029
  • So if you are a pastor or, you know,
  • 00:29:05.029 --> 00:29:07.932
  • You're a believing christian woman who
  • 00:29:07.932 --> 00:29:11.502
  • Just wants to be left alone, right,
  • 00:29:11.502 --> 00:29:13.270
  • And often that's how we feel,
  • 00:29:13.270 --> 00:29:14.572
  • Just leave us alone and let us raise our families
  • 00:29:14.572 --> 00:29:16.774
  • And support our families,
  • 00:29:16.774 --> 00:29:18.475
  • But that's not how it works anymore.
  • 00:29:18.475 --> 00:29:20.711
  • The world will no longer just leave you alone.
  • 00:29:20.711 --> 00:29:23.447
  • In fact, now you must agree with what they're
  • 00:29:23.447 --> 00:29:26.817
  • Saying and what they're teaching your children
  • 00:29:26.817 --> 00:29:28.552
  • Or be canceled or in some cases perhaps
  • 00:29:28.552 --> 00:29:31.856
  • Even lose your job.
  • 00:29:31.856 --> 00:29:33.524
  • We have teachers all over this country that are
  • 00:29:33.524 --> 00:29:36.260
  • Facing that in school systems and there's
  • 00:29:36.260 --> 00:29:38.529
  • Lawsuits all around, and we're winning,
  • 00:29:38.529 --> 00:29:41.599
  • And i'm very grateful concerned women for
  • 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:43.801
  • America worked very hard to confirm the last three
  • 00:29:43.801 --> 00:29:47.171
  • Justices on the supreme court and it has mattered
  • 00:29:47.171 --> 00:29:49.840
  • In all these cases.
  • 00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:51.408
  • In fact, we have more religious freedom cases
  • 00:29:51.408 --> 00:29:54.845
  • Coming forward in this next term.
  • 00:29:54.845 --> 00:29:57.648
  • One is called 303 creative which is a woman
  • 00:29:57.648 --> 00:30:01.385
  • Who does a website for weddings in colorado.
  • 00:30:01.385 --> 00:30:04.855
  • Seems like it's always colorado, right?
  • 00:30:04.855 --> 00:30:06.490
  • Colorado was the baker.
  • 00:30:06.490 --> 00:30:08.259
  • And she has been harassed and by her government
  • 00:30:08.259 --> 00:30:13.330
  • Because she only wants to do traditional weddings.
  • 00:30:13.330 --> 00:30:17.001
  • And you know, we say it is her right to make that
  • 00:30:17.001 --> 00:30:20.271
  • Choice. so this is going all the way to the supreme court.
  • 00:30:20.271 --> 00:30:24.041
  • You need to understand the u.s. senate confirms
  • 00:30:24.041 --> 00:30:27.811
  • Justices, so we are electing senators right now.
  • 00:30:27.811 --> 00:30:32.082
  • There's some really key states.
  • 00:30:32.082 --> 00:30:34.118
  • We are rolling through, we just finished ohio,
  • 00:30:34.118 --> 00:30:36.587
  • Pennsylvania, arizona, nevada, georgia,
  • 00:30:36.587 --> 00:30:39.323
  • These are really going to change the trajectory of
  • 00:30:39.323 --> 00:30:42.993
  • Our nation, and if believers don't vote
  • 00:30:42.993 --> 00:30:45.763
  • Their values, then we lose and we are going
  • 00:30:45.763 --> 00:30:48.966
  • To reap what comes with that.
  • 00:30:48.966 --> 00:30:51.168
  • - can you imagine what would happen,
  • 00:30:51.168 --> 00:30:53.103
  • How backwards we would go if women did not vote.
  • 00:30:53.103 --> 00:30:58.442
  • I mean, that was a hard earned battle for women
  • 00:30:58.442 --> 00:31:01.578
  • To be able to vote, and now for the very
  • 00:31:01.578 --> 00:31:04.381
  • Definition of women to be brought into question,
  • 00:31:04.381 --> 00:31:07.818
  • And then for women to just sort of surrender
  • 00:31:07.818 --> 00:31:11.355
  • The sacred responsibility that we have to vote for
  • 00:31:11.355 --> 00:31:15.759
  • Good and godly leaders would only take us
  • 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.262
  • Backward into an era that would make us cringe.
  • 00:31:18.262 --> 00:31:22.866
  • Can you just speak to the women out there and
  • 00:31:22.866 --> 00:31:24.501
  • Inspire them with reasons why they should vote if
  • 00:31:24.501 --> 00:31:27.771
  • They've not in the past.
  • 00:31:27.771 --> 00:31:29.573
  • - we have only had the right to vote for 100 years.
  • 00:31:29.573 --> 00:31:32.943
  • Women were the very last to get the right to vote,
  • 00:31:32.943 --> 00:31:36.747
  • And i just recently served,
  • 00:31:36.747 --> 00:31:38.916
  • I was appointed to, by the president,
  • 00:31:38.916 --> 00:31:41.251
  • To the commission on-- centennial commission on
  • 00:31:41.251 --> 00:31:44.922
  • Suffrage, and it's 100 years so that is
  • 00:31:44.922 --> 00:31:48.692
  • Not very long ago. people suffered for
  • 00:31:48.692 --> 00:31:52.196
  • Us to actually have this opportunity.
  • 00:31:52.196 --> 00:31:55.265
  • Think about what a great nation we live in that we
  • 00:31:55.265 --> 00:32:00.604
  • Can have the opportunity every two to four years
  • 00:32:00.604 --> 00:32:03.707
  • To completely change our government.
  • 00:32:03.707 --> 00:32:05.809
  • The american church prayed for fifty years.
  • 00:32:05.809 --> 00:32:08.979
  • There were women all over this country,
  • 00:32:08.979 --> 00:32:10.681
  • Concerned women for america members
  • 00:32:10.681 --> 00:32:13.217
  • That are older than us, our founder that came to
  • 00:32:13.217 --> 00:32:16.387
  • Washington, walked in the march for life,
  • 00:32:16.387 --> 00:32:19.289
  • Moms that had their little babies that are
  • 00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:21.425
  • Now grown, on their hips, in strollers,
  • 00:32:21.425 --> 00:32:24.194
  • Walking the halls of congress,
  • 00:32:24.194 --> 00:32:26.196
  • Walking the halls of their state legislatures,
  • 00:32:26.196 --> 00:32:29.700
  • Working and advocating for life.
  • 00:32:29.700 --> 00:32:33.470
  • So for fifty years, american women fought
  • 00:32:33.470 --> 00:32:36.507
  • So hard to overturn roe v. wade.
  • 00:32:36.507 --> 00:32:39.309
  • I was so blessed to be on the steps of the
  • 00:32:39.309 --> 00:32:42.212
  • Supreme court june 24th of this year,
  • 00:32:42.212 --> 00:32:45.082
  • To be there when the court actually made that
  • 00:32:45.082 --> 00:32:48.085
  • Decision and came down and overturned roe.
  • 00:32:48.085 --> 00:32:51.255
  • So now we can have this conversation in the state,
  • 00:32:51.255 --> 00:32:54.224
  • But understand right now, and president biden was
  • 00:32:54.224 --> 00:32:57.061
  • Just recently discussing that it's his goal by
  • 00:32:57.061 --> 00:33:01.398
  • Legislative fiat to now make abortion legal at
  • 00:33:01.398 --> 00:33:05.335
  • Any point, any reason, any number,
  • 00:33:05.335 --> 00:33:07.538
  • All paid for by the tax payer,
  • 00:33:07.538 --> 00:33:09.506
  • Literally undoing the hard fought victory that
  • 00:33:09.506 --> 00:33:13.077
  • The pro-life community, that the church
  • 00:33:13.077 --> 00:33:15.345
  • Worked and prayed for.
  • 00:33:15.345 --> 00:33:17.147
  • So that's just one of so many issues.
  • 00:33:17.147 --> 00:33:20.584
  • - penny, talk to us about this exciting
  • 00:33:20.584 --> 00:33:22.753
  • Initiative that you've started here,
  • 00:33:22.753 --> 00:33:24.121
  • She sprays she votes, the bus tour.
  • 00:33:24.121 --> 00:33:26.390
  • You've been on the road.
  • 00:33:26.390 --> 00:33:27.624
  • Where have you gone and what are you finding?
  • 00:33:27.624 --> 00:33:29.927
  • - oh, my goodness, this has been an amazing tour.
  • 00:33:29.927 --> 00:33:32.129
  • I'm only three days in.
  • 00:33:32.129 --> 00:33:33.697
  • I have a bus full of wonderful women,
  • 00:33:33.697 --> 00:33:36.133
  • Young women who are rolling across the country.
  • 00:33:36.133 --> 00:33:38.836
  • We're gonna hit 12 states, 40 stops,
  • 00:33:38.836 --> 00:33:42.172
  • And i mentioned the really key states that
  • 00:33:42.172 --> 00:33:44.575
  • Are really impactful in this midterm election
  • 00:33:44.575 --> 00:33:48.045
  • Cycle, and that is we started out in ohio,
  • 00:33:48.045 --> 00:33:51.148
  • We finished ohio. we're in pennsylvania right now.
  • 00:33:51.148 --> 00:33:53.684
  • We're rolling through some other states and
  • 00:33:53.684 --> 00:33:56.420
  • Stopping. we'll stop at liberty university,
  • 00:33:56.420 --> 00:33:58.755
  • Which i'm a graduate of and on the board,
  • 00:33:58.755 --> 00:34:01.892
  • And say hello to students there.
  • 00:34:01.892 --> 00:34:03.827
  • We'll be going through some other college
  • 00:34:03.827 --> 00:34:06.530
  • Campuses, but then going down to georgia,
  • 00:34:06.530 --> 00:34:10.767
  • Arizona and into nevada.
  • 00:34:10.767 --> 00:34:13.704
  • - so you're stopping and talking with women
  • 00:34:13.704 --> 00:34:16.073
  • Specifically in all of these states.
  • 00:34:16.073 --> 00:34:18.342
  • What are you finding to be the most important
  • 00:34:18.342 --> 00:34:21.345
  • Issues on the minds of women?
  • 00:34:21.345 --> 00:34:24.381
  • - you know, we talked about the life issue
  • 00:34:24.381 --> 00:34:26.083
  • Already, and i think that is certainly top of mind
  • 00:34:26.083 --> 00:34:28.719
  • For american women.
  • 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:30.354
  • There are other women who may not think about it
  • 00:34:30.354 --> 00:34:32.356
  • On an ongoing basis as we do,
  • 00:34:32.356 --> 00:34:35.425
  • But what they know is that they are losing
  • 00:34:35.425 --> 00:34:38.128
  • About a month's worth of pay because of inflation,
  • 00:34:38.128 --> 00:34:41.965
  • And what they know is that their life is much
  • 00:34:41.965 --> 00:34:44.434
  • More difficult, and they're having to make
  • 00:34:44.434 --> 00:34:46.270
  • Choices on whether or not they can take their
  • 00:34:46.270 --> 00:34:48.972
  • Children to an activity or what they're able to
  • 00:34:48.972 --> 00:34:52.409
  • Do, what they're able to save for their college
  • 00:34:52.409 --> 00:34:55.112
  • Education because of inflation.
  • 00:34:55.112 --> 00:34:59.483
  • I mean it is dramatically impacting women.
  • 00:34:59.483 --> 00:35:02.853
  • And then the other issue is crime.
  • 00:35:02.853 --> 00:35:05.088
  • The number one google search right now is the
  • 00:35:05.088 --> 00:35:07.124
  • Word crime for women.
  • 00:35:07.124 --> 00:35:09.159
  • We're seeing an increase, and the issue of security
  • 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:13.664
  • And safety is always at the top of mind for
  • 00:35:13.664 --> 00:35:16.133
  • American women, and so those are issues that are
  • 00:35:16.133 --> 00:35:19.703
  • Ongoing, and it's not just conservative women,
  • 00:35:19.703 --> 00:35:22.272
  • It's across the board.
  • 00:35:22.272 --> 00:35:24.675
  • We have seen in just the last few days a new york
  • 00:35:24.675 --> 00:35:28.111
  • Times poll that came out that shows that women in
  • 00:35:28.111 --> 00:35:32.516
  • September swung from being 14 points in favor
  • 00:35:32.516 --> 00:35:37.054
  • Of democrats to 18 points in favor of republicans.
  • 00:35:37.054 --> 00:35:41.391
  • That's a 32 point swing. that is enormous.
  • 00:35:41.391 --> 00:35:46.129
  • And so what you're seeing happen is women realize
  • 00:35:46.129 --> 00:35:50.834
  • That all the horror stories,
  • 00:35:50.834 --> 00:35:52.569
  • The lies frankly that the abortion industry told
  • 00:35:52.569 --> 00:35:55.105
  • And said that women could not receive health care,
  • 00:35:55.105 --> 00:35:58.242
  • That women would not be treated for ectopic
  • 00:35:58.242 --> 00:36:01.011
  • Pregnancies, all those things are becoming clear,
  • 00:36:01.011 --> 00:36:03.647
  • And they're realizing that actually isn't true.
  • 00:36:03.647 --> 00:36:05.749
  • And sadly for me when you wake up in the state of
  • 00:36:05.749 --> 00:36:08.151
  • New york or california, nothing changed for you.
  • 00:36:08.151 --> 00:36:11.221
  • Of course we need to advocate for life
  • 00:36:11.221 --> 00:36:13.056
  • On every state, in every state,
  • 00:36:13.056 --> 00:36:15.359
  • But the reality is true for them,
  • 00:36:15.359 --> 00:36:17.728
  • And so the people that were so concerned
  • 00:36:17.728 --> 00:36:20.097
  • Independents about perhaps that issue now
  • 00:36:20.097 --> 00:36:22.766
  • Realizes, you know, my wellbeing and the
  • 00:36:22.766 --> 00:36:25.802
  • Wellbeing of my family is the thing that i care the
  • 00:36:25.802 --> 00:36:28.105
  • Most about, and so we're seeing a real change,
  • 00:36:28.105 --> 00:36:31.208
  • A real trend in which women,
  • 00:36:31.208 --> 00:36:34.077
  • Independent women are voting for conservatives.
  • 00:36:34.077 --> 00:36:37.848
  • - penny, i wonder if you can give guidance to
  • 00:36:37.848 --> 00:36:40.017
  • Women who are thinking about the ease of voting
  • 00:36:40.017 --> 00:36:44.187
  • In the midterms based on a single issue.
  • 00:36:44.187 --> 00:36:46.757
  • Hey, if life is my thing, or if the economy is my
  • 00:36:46.757 --> 00:36:50.560
  • Thing, that's the only thing that i'm looking at.
  • 00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:52.863
  • Is that okay to be a one issue voter,
  • 00:36:52.863 --> 00:36:55.565
  • Or is it essential to look at a candidate and
  • 00:36:55.565 --> 00:36:58.535
  • How they vote on all of the issues.
  • 00:36:58.535 --> 00:37:00.604
  • - the issue of life is a waterline issue for me.
  • 00:37:00.604 --> 00:37:03.940
  • If a candidate doesn't support life,
  • 00:37:03.940 --> 00:37:06.376
  • Then i don't trust him or her for other issues.
  • 00:37:06.376 --> 00:37:09.579
  • But it doesn't mean that you don't think about the
  • 00:37:09.579 --> 00:37:13.016
  • Other issues and research if there is actually a
  • 00:37:13.016 --> 00:37:17.721
  • Score for that member, for instance,
  • 00:37:17.721 --> 00:37:19.856
  • Concerned women for america does a score card
  • 00:37:19.856 --> 00:37:22.459
  • For members on a range of issues,
  • 00:37:22.459 --> 00:37:25.062
  • Including religious freedom that we've been discussing.
  • 00:37:25.062 --> 00:37:28.198
  • So come to our website and you can find out all
  • 00:37:28.198 --> 00:37:30.600
  • Kinds of information about how to vote,
  • 00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:32.803
  • How to register to vote, information about voter
  • 00:37:32.803 --> 00:37:36.907
  • Integrity, information about getting you to your
  • 00:37:36.907 --> 00:37:40.110
  • Secretary of state's website so you can see
  • 00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:42.279
  • The dates for early voting for your state.
  • 00:37:42.279 --> 00:37:45.582
  • Of course everybody knows that election day is
  • 00:37:45.582 --> 00:37:47.784
  • November 8, so make sure that you've at least
  • 00:37:47.784 --> 00:37:50.120
  • Voted by then.
  • 00:37:50.120 --> 00:37:52.189
  • So i think it is important for women and
  • 00:37:52.189 --> 00:37:54.858
  • Men of course to research the candidates
  • 00:37:54.858 --> 00:37:57.227
  • And to understand.
  • 00:37:57.227 --> 00:37:58.729
  • There's a lot of different groups that are
  • 00:37:58.729 --> 00:38:00.497
  • Doing voter guides, and those are completely
  • 00:38:00.497 --> 00:38:03.767
  • Legal to be handed out by the way in your church.
  • 00:38:03.767 --> 00:38:06.970
  • That is a 501c3 nonprofit activity because it's
  • 00:38:06.970 --> 00:38:11.808
  • Pure information, right, so as a pastor
  • 00:38:11.808 --> 00:38:15.278
  • You can hand that out.
  • 00:38:15.278 --> 00:38:16.813
  • It is completely legal for you to tell your
  • 00:38:16.813 --> 00:38:20.183
  • Church to go vote.
  • 00:38:20.183 --> 00:38:21.818
  • You can't tell them how to vote,
  • 00:38:21.818 --> 00:38:23.453
  • But you should remind them to vote,
  • 00:38:23.453 --> 00:38:26.056
  • And you should remind your friends to vote as well.
  • 00:38:26.056 --> 00:38:29.092
  • - after the break we'll talk with penny
  • 00:38:29.092 --> 00:38:30.827
  • More about the issues that are on the minds of
  • 00:38:30.827 --> 00:38:32.796
  • Americans leading up to the midterm election.
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  • - we're back with penny nance.
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  • Penny, i'd like to go back and touch again on
  • 00:38:51.446 --> 00:38:53.748
  • The subject of inflation, of the prices of everything.
  • 00:38:53.748 --> 00:38:57.285
  • It seems like every time i go to the grocery store
  • 00:38:57.285 --> 00:38:59.521
  • To make a special dinner for my wife,
  • 00:38:59.521 --> 00:39:02.357
  • It feels like at the register it totals up
  • 00:39:02.357 --> 00:39:06.961
  • More numbers than i've got in my cell phone
  • 00:39:06.961 --> 00:39:08.897
  • Number, and it gets harder and harder for
  • 00:39:08.897 --> 00:39:11.433
  • People to put food on the table,
  • 00:39:11.433 --> 00:39:13.001
  • And they're having to decide between that and
  • 00:39:13.001 --> 00:39:15.170
  • Putting clothes on their kids back or giving their
  • 00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:17.505
  • Kids a good education.
  • 00:39:17.505 --> 00:39:19.507
  • Where are women finding hope with the economy
  • 00:39:19.507 --> 00:39:24.012
  • Being the way that it is right now?
  • 00:39:24.012 --> 00:39:25.713
  • - well, i think you hit it.
  • 00:39:25.713 --> 00:39:27.148
  • It's true that we have pretty much overall
  • 00:39:27.148 --> 00:39:30.952
  • 8.8 percent inflation.
  • 00:39:30.952 --> 00:39:32.921
  • That's basically a month's pay.
  • 00:39:32.921 --> 00:39:34.722
  • So think about that, right.
  • 00:39:34.722 --> 00:39:36.357
  • For maybe you and i, it's difficult but
  • 00:39:36.357 --> 00:39:39.294
  • It's not life changing.
  • 00:39:39.294 --> 00:39:41.796
  • But there are people, and again, i mentioned this,
  • 00:39:41.796 --> 00:39:44.899
  • I experienced this growing up where you go
  • 00:39:44.899 --> 00:39:46.935
  • Through the grocery store line and the cashier is
  • 00:39:46.935 --> 00:39:49.704
  • Ringing up your food and all of a sudden you're
  • 00:39:49.704 --> 00:39:51.873
  • Surprised by the amount because you realize you
  • 00:39:51.873 --> 00:39:54.442
  • Don't have enough money to pay for it,
  • 00:39:54.442 --> 00:39:56.377
  • And that means you've got to put things back,
  • 00:39:56.377 --> 00:39:58.346
  • And you're standing there with your face blazing,
  • 00:39:58.346 --> 00:40:01.216
  • Your cheeks blazing because you're so
  • 00:40:01.216 --> 00:40:02.851
  • Embarrassed and perhaps know somebody behind you
  • 00:40:02.851 --> 00:40:05.053
  • In a small town, and this is not odd.
  • 00:40:05.053 --> 00:40:09.190
  • This is what is happening.
  • 00:40:09.190 --> 00:40:10.792
  • And this is the reason people are so angry.
  • 00:40:10.792 --> 00:40:14.128
  • It directly impacts people who are middle
  • 00:40:14.128 --> 00:40:17.165
  • Class families head on.
  • 00:40:17.165 --> 00:40:20.068
  • And it is something that they are working through,
  • 00:40:20.068 --> 00:40:22.604
  • And the american people are strong,
  • 00:40:22.604 --> 00:40:25.006
  • And they are faithful, and they are working
  • 00:40:25.006 --> 00:40:28.943
  • Hard, but what they know is they are not as well
  • 00:40:28.943 --> 00:40:32.647
  • Off as they were a couple of years ago.
  • 00:40:32.647 --> 00:40:35.283
  • And even in the last year,
  • 00:40:35.283 --> 00:40:36.751
  • Things have gotten worse, so they understand no
  • 00:40:36.751 --> 00:40:39.320
  • Matter what the politicians tell them,
  • 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:41.956
  • And what they're saying they need to believe and
  • 00:40:41.956 --> 00:40:44.626
  • What their children need to agree to in the
  • 00:40:44.626 --> 00:40:46.861
  • Classroom,, and whatever pronoun that you're
  • 00:40:46.861 --> 00:40:48.663
  • Supposed to use, they know that that is not
  • 00:40:48.663 --> 00:40:51.432
  • True and they will not bow to a false reality.
  • 00:40:51.432 --> 00:40:55.703
  • So it is clearly a top of mind issue for families
  • 00:40:55.703 --> 00:41:00.208
  • And they are voting on it,
  • 00:41:00.208 --> 00:41:02.043
  • And it doesn't matter if you're conservative or
  • 00:41:02.043 --> 00:41:03.878
  • Liberal on this, they know what is impacting
  • 00:41:03.878 --> 00:41:07.215
  • Them and they want a better life,
  • 00:41:07.215 --> 00:41:08.683
  • And they're not just gonna go along to get along.
  • 00:41:08.683 --> 00:41:10.985
  • - we talked a little bit about roe versus wade
  • 00:41:10.985 --> 00:41:13.288
  • Overturned at the national supreme court
  • 00:41:13.288 --> 00:41:15.823
  • Level. where i live in california,
  • 00:41:15.823 --> 00:41:18.393
  • You get the sense that this has just poured
  • 00:41:18.393 --> 00:41:21.829
  • Gasoline on the fire, and you see people angry,
  • 00:41:21.829 --> 00:41:24.766
  • And they're saying their rights are being taken
  • 00:41:24.766 --> 00:41:27.368
  • Away, yet you're traveling around the
  • 00:41:27.368 --> 00:41:29.604
  • Country with your bus tour, she prays, she votes.
  • 00:41:29.604 --> 00:41:33.474
  • Are you finding that what happened at the supreme
  • 00:41:33.474 --> 00:41:35.877
  • Court is angering people, or is it energizing the
  • 00:41:35.877 --> 00:41:39.447
  • Good women of america?
  • 00:41:39.447 --> 00:41:41.616
  • - well, i agree that in california maybe it's
  • 00:41:41.616 --> 00:41:44.586
  • An issue that they want to discuss,
  • 00:41:44.586 --> 00:41:46.554
  • But the truth is they're realizing sadly for me
  • 00:41:46.554 --> 00:41:49.857
  • That nothing changed for them because the state
  • 00:41:49.857 --> 00:41:52.660
  • Law still allows abortion up until birth.
  • 00:41:52.660 --> 00:41:55.763
  • And governor newsom would like to actually have
  • 00:41:55.763 --> 00:41:58.099
  • Abortion tourism in your state where they
  • 00:41:58.099 --> 00:42:00.068
  • Literally pay people to come in and have an
  • 00:42:00.068 --> 00:42:02.670
  • Abortion in your state from a state that has
  • 00:42:02.670 --> 00:42:04.672
  • Stricter abortion laws.
  • 00:42:04.672 --> 00:42:07.675
  • But what i'm hearing around this country is
  • 00:42:07.675 --> 00:42:10.878
  • That faithful women are grateful that they worked
  • 00:42:10.878 --> 00:42:14.248
  • So hard and they prayed to protect the least of
  • 00:42:14.248 --> 00:42:16.918
  • These. they understand and you know the case in
  • 00:42:16.918 --> 00:42:20.722
  • Mississippi was about a fifteen week ban.
  • 00:42:20.722 --> 00:42:22.991
  • That was the dobbs decision,
  • 00:42:22.991 --> 00:42:24.859
  • And it had to do with at fifteen weeks a little
  • 00:42:24.859 --> 00:42:27.929
  • Baby girl in her mother's womb has a beating heart,
  • 00:42:27.929 --> 00:42:30.765
  • Has all her major organs, has fingernails and
  • 00:42:30.765 --> 00:42:33.668
  • Toenails and eyelids and can feel pain,
  • 00:42:33.668 --> 00:42:37.605
  • And so it is a human rights violation to
  • 00:42:37.605 --> 00:42:42.744
  • Dismember her and to hurt her in the womb.
  • 00:42:42.744 --> 00:42:45.613
  • So the people in mississippi said this is
  • 00:42:45.613 --> 00:42:48.650
  • Our law and we're gonna stand behind it,
  • 00:42:48.650 --> 00:42:51.519
  • And it went all the way to supreme court and the
  • 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.589
  • Supreme court had to overturn roe because roe
  • 00:42:54.589 --> 00:42:58.593
  • And then together with the casey decision said
  • 00:42:58.593 --> 00:43:01.195
  • That no state could prohibit abortion
  • 00:43:01.195 --> 00:43:04.265
  • Pre-viability and recognize viability is
  • 00:43:04.265 --> 00:43:07.402
  • All the way up until 24 weeks.
  • 00:43:07.402 --> 00:43:10.471
  • I mean, think about how far along-- you have
  • 00:43:10.471 --> 00:43:12.240
  • Children, how pregnant your wife was at 24 weeks,
  • 00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:16.944
  • Way into the second almost third trimester.
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  • There was no ability for a state to limit abortion
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  • Before the overturn of roe,
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  • And so now states can make that decision.
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  • We're free to make that decision.
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  • About 24 states have.
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  • They have much more prohibitive laws and
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  • Much more protective laws of life.
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  • What the biden administration wants to
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  • Do and what the left wants to do is take
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  • Everything back to even beyond roe to say
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  • Abortion has to be legal up until birth,
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  • And so this is where we are, and your question
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  • For me was how do women feel on this issue.
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  • Christian women are grateful for where we
  • 00:43:55.750 --> 00:43:57.885
  • Are, and they're also cognizant of what's
  • 00:43:57.885 --> 00:44:00.388
  • Happening for them.
  • 00:44:00.388 --> 00:44:02.090
  • But i have to be honest that when you talk about
  • 00:44:02.090 --> 00:44:04.459
  • Independent women, it's not the first thing
  • 00:44:04.459 --> 00:44:06.427
  • They think about.
  • 00:44:06.427 --> 00:44:07.795
  • What they are thinking about is what we just
  • 00:44:07.795 --> 00:44:09.363
  • Talked about and that is the wellbeing,
  • 00:44:09.363 --> 00:44:11.165
  • The economic wellbeing of their families.
  • 00:44:11.165 --> 00:44:13.634
  • - well, as a father of six children,
  • 00:44:13.634 --> 00:44:16.237
  • Four of my children are adopted which means there
  • 00:44:16.237 --> 00:44:19.941
  • Were mothers out there who valued the life
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  • Of their babies. my wife is also an adopted child,
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  • So i am so grateful for the overturning of roe
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  • Versus wade which allows states to protect those
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  • Babies who turn into our wives and our mothers
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  • And our daughters.
  • 00:44:35.156 --> 00:44:36.557
  • And i have found it to really energize people of
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  • Faith because never in their lifetime did they
  • 00:44:40.695 --> 00:44:43.664
  • Imagine that they would see the overturning of
  • 00:44:43.664 --> 00:44:46.234
  • Roe versus wade, and the answer to those prayers
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  • Have happened in this generation,
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  • And i'm finding that's putting fuel in the tank
  • 00:44:50.338 --> 00:44:52.073
  • For a lot of people.
  • 00:44:52.073 --> 00:44:53.541
  • - i'm just finding that women are finding their
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  • Voice though on this issue,
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  • And because you're an adoptive father,
  • 00:44:57.512 --> 00:44:59.514
  • My brother is, my much loved brother is adopted
  • 00:44:59.514 --> 00:45:02.950
  • Into our family, it is part of our culture to
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  • Adopt because we understand that we are
  • 00:45:05.620 --> 00:45:08.489
  • Adopted heirs of jesus, right,
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  • And so it is very essential.
  • 00:45:10.992 --> 00:45:13.928
  • But i am recognizing and what i'm seeing is that
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  • American women that are christian women are
  • 00:45:17.665 --> 00:45:20.635
  • Finding their esther moment.
  • 00:45:20.635 --> 00:45:23.070
  • We are stepping forward and speaking into this
  • 00:45:23.070 --> 00:45:25.740
  • Issue, speaking truth to power,
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  • And even though there for a minute you feel like,
  • 00:45:28.009 --> 00:45:30.912
  • As you said, that you're censored and you're
  • 00:45:30.912 --> 00:45:34.081
  • Afraid, but they're finding their voices,
  • 00:45:34.081 --> 00:45:36.651
  • And they're so courageous,
  • 00:45:36.651 --> 00:45:38.619
  • And they're speaking for it and guess what,
  • 00:45:38.619 --> 00:45:40.488
  • Courage is contagious.
  • 00:45:40.488 --> 00:45:42.557
  • It just takes one person in a room to say wait a
  • 00:45:42.557 --> 00:45:45.660
  • Minute, i disagree with that,
  • 00:45:45.660 --> 00:45:48.229
  • And then others are like you know what,
  • 00:45:48.229 --> 00:45:50.598
  • I do too but i was afraid to say anything.
  • 00:45:50.598 --> 00:45:52.967
  • And so i'm seeing this beautiful thing unfold in
  • 00:45:52.967 --> 00:45:56.003
  • Which christian women are stepping forward because
  • 00:45:56.003 --> 00:45:58.806
  • They realize they are the best advocates for some
  • 00:45:58.806 --> 00:46:01.409
  • Of these issues, especially the dignity,
  • 00:46:01.409 --> 00:46:04.078
  • The unique dignity of women.
  • 00:46:04.078 --> 00:46:06.280
  • - penny, many people think about politics.
  • 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.549
  • They think about elections,
  • 00:46:08.549 --> 00:46:10.051
  • And they think about the big stuff like the
  • 00:46:10.051 --> 00:46:11.953
  • President being elected or the supreme court
  • 00:46:11.953 --> 00:46:15.389
  • Justices, but it's also been wisely said that all
  • 00:46:15.389 --> 00:46:19.260
  • Politics are really local.
  • 00:46:19.260 --> 00:46:21.162
  • Talk to those who are saying you know it's the
  • 00:46:21.162 --> 00:46:25.700
  • Midterm election, i'm not even sure what that is.
  • 00:46:25.700 --> 00:46:27.902
  • I'll vote once every four years for the president
  • 00:46:27.902 --> 00:46:29.904
  • Because my little vote in this local stuff,
  • 00:46:29.904 --> 00:46:32.573
  • I don't know anything about it.
  • 00:46:32.573 --> 00:46:34.675
  • - oh, my goodness, even more so on a local level.
  • 00:46:34.675 --> 00:46:38.112
  • I mean that is of course so wrong.
  • 00:46:38.112 --> 00:46:39.947
  • I pointed out before that we're picking senators
  • 00:46:39.947 --> 00:46:42.717
  • Who has the majority of the senate,
  • 00:46:42.717 --> 00:46:45.186
  • And that means the next time if the president
  • 00:46:45.186 --> 00:46:47.922
  • Appoints, it could happen,
  • 00:46:47.922 --> 00:46:50.892
  • I mean if a supreme court justice retires or dies,
  • 00:46:50.892 --> 00:46:53.728
  • We would really appreciate the next
  • 00:46:53.728 --> 00:46:56.063
  • Supreme court justice knowing what a woman is,
  • 00:46:56.063 --> 00:46:58.299
  • Right? and then you've got the house races,
  • 00:46:58.299 --> 00:47:01.202
  • And this is very important for the house
  • 00:47:01.202 --> 00:47:02.870
  • Of representatives because we're bicameral government.
  • 00:47:02.870 --> 00:47:05.907
  • But what you asked about was the down ballot races.
  • 00:47:05.907 --> 00:47:09.777
  • There's some governors races but then you get
  • 00:47:09.777 --> 00:47:12.413
  • Down to these local races and we're talking about
  • 00:47:12.413 --> 00:47:15.650
  • School board races.
  • 00:47:15.650 --> 00:47:17.184
  • - school board races and governors being elected
  • 00:47:17.184 --> 00:47:19.086
  • And state legislatures.
  • 00:47:19.086 --> 00:47:21.355
  • - mayors.
  • 00:47:21.355 --> 00:47:22.790
  • So i would suggest that we really need christians
  • 00:47:22.790 --> 00:47:27.194
  • To step up for some of these local races,
  • 00:47:27.194 --> 00:47:30.932
  • Particularly for school boards.
  • 00:47:30.932 --> 00:47:32.566
  • I don't think we would see what was happening if
  • 00:47:32.566 --> 00:47:35.069
  • More christians would be willing to step forward
  • 00:47:35.069 --> 00:47:38.940
  • And lead and be elected to our school boards in
  • 00:47:38.940 --> 00:47:42.009
  • Order to protect our children.
  • 00:47:42.009 --> 00:47:43.611
  • If we want to make a difference,
  • 00:47:43.611 --> 00:47:45.112
  • That's how we can make a difference.
  • 00:47:45.112 --> 00:47:46.981
  • So don't neglect the down ballot races.
  • 00:47:46.981 --> 00:47:49.750
  • It in some ways impacts your life even more
  • 00:47:49.750 --> 00:47:52.586
  • Profoundly than these federal offices.
  • 00:47:52.586 --> 00:47:55.556
  • - yes, and because i love studying history and
  • 00:47:55.556 --> 00:47:57.591
  • I'm so grateful for the blessed nation that we
  • 00:47:57.591 --> 00:48:00.361
  • Have that's unique in all of history,
  • 00:48:00.361 --> 00:48:03.331
  • There's this doctrine of interposition where local
  • 00:48:03.331 --> 00:48:06.968
  • Races really make such a big difference,
  • 00:48:06.968 --> 00:48:08.903
  • And by that i mean a local governor,
  • 00:48:08.903 --> 00:48:13.107
  • A local mayor can interpose,
  • 00:48:13.107 --> 00:48:15.209
  • Can step in between tyranny coming down from
  • 00:48:15.209 --> 00:48:18.646
  • The national level to protect his people
  • 00:48:18.646 --> 00:48:20.915
  • Or her people.
  • 00:48:20.915 --> 00:48:22.149
  • And that's another reason why that's so important,
  • 00:48:22.149 --> 00:48:24.051
  • Not just to have local leaders leading the way
  • 00:48:24.051 --> 00:48:27.688
  • But guarding and shielding us from bad leadership
  • 00:48:27.688 --> 00:48:30.992
  • That's higher up the food chain.
  • 00:48:30.992 --> 00:48:33.594
  • - well we've seen that even more recently,
  • 00:48:33.594 --> 00:48:35.563
  • Whether churches are opening or closing,
  • 00:48:35.563 --> 00:48:37.898
  • Sometimes that decision sometimes was made on the
  • 00:48:37.898 --> 00:48:41.135
  • Local level and was often made at the state level,
  • 00:48:41.135 --> 00:48:45.106
  • So in some states, in florida for instance,
  • 00:48:45.106 --> 00:48:48.376
  • There was no problem.
  • 00:48:48.376 --> 00:48:49.944
  • Your kids could go to school,
  • 00:48:49.944 --> 00:48:51.345
  • You could always go to church.
  • 00:48:51.345 --> 00:48:52.813
  • In other states it wasn't that way.
  • 00:48:52.813 --> 00:48:54.448
  • - like my state in california,
  • 00:48:54.448 --> 00:48:56.050
  • We were under house arrest for quite a long
  • 00:48:56.050 --> 00:48:57.718
  • Time, but the church that i was a part of realized
  • 00:48:57.718 --> 00:49:00.187
  • That when the abortion clinics,
  • 00:49:00.187 --> 00:49:02.123
  • And the liquor stores, and the strip clubs,
  • 00:49:02.123 --> 00:49:04.458
  • And the weed shops got to stay open,
  • 00:49:04.458 --> 00:49:06.494
  • They were essential, they realized that something
  • 00:49:06.494 --> 00:49:09.296
  • Else was going on.
  • 00:49:09.296 --> 00:49:10.531
  • They threw the doors to the church open and
  • 00:49:10.531 --> 00:49:12.566
  • Everyone flooded in and began to build community,
  • 00:49:12.566 --> 00:49:15.569
  • And with that community there was immunity to
  • 00:49:15.569 --> 00:49:18.005
  • Fear, there was immunity to isolation and all the
  • 00:49:18.005 --> 00:49:21.175
  • Things that have caused so much collateral
  • 00:49:21.175 --> 00:49:23.944
  • Damage, and that's because of local leaders
  • 00:49:23.944 --> 00:49:27.648
  • Whether it's a governor or whether it's a mayor.
  • 00:49:27.648 --> 00:49:31.085
  • Maybe it's a local sheriff or just a pastor
  • 00:49:31.085 --> 00:49:33.554
  • Or the school board in your community.
  • 00:49:33.554 --> 00:49:35.923
  • - well, that's right.
  • 00:49:35.923 --> 00:49:37.291
  • It's a hundred percent essential that you again
  • 00:49:37.291 --> 00:49:39.727
  • Make sure that you become educated on the issue,
  • 00:49:39.727 --> 00:49:44.498
  • And again there's all kinds of organizations
  • 00:49:44.498 --> 00:49:46.567
  • To help you with that.
  • 00:49:46.567 --> 00:49:48.002
  • Concerned women for america has lots of
  • 00:49:48.002 --> 00:49:49.770
  • Information, but make sure you vote all the way
  • 00:49:49.770 --> 00:49:53.574
  • Down the ballot, and make sure that you are
  • 00:49:53.574 --> 00:49:57.311
  • Affirming and voting for leaders who will protect
  • 00:49:57.311 --> 00:50:02.249
  • Your freedom and protect your family.
  • 00:50:02.249 --> 00:50:05.219
  • - penny, i'm so grateful for what you're doing.
  • 00:50:05.219 --> 00:50:07.088
  • I'm so grateful for concerned women for america.
  • 00:50:07.088 --> 00:50:10.758
  • Thank you for joining us.
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  • Everyone, after the break we'll review
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  • Today's takeaways.
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  • [music]
  • 00:50:15.830 --> 00:50:22.000
  • [music]
  • 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:27.952
  • - welcome back.
  • 00:50:28.419 --> 00:50:29.854
  • Wow, what an awesome time we've had today talking
  • 00:50:29.854 --> 00:50:32.156
  • About the family of faith's engagement in
  • 00:50:32.156 --> 00:50:34.792
  • Culture during the midterm election season.
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  • Let's review some of our takeaways.
  • 00:50:37.394 --> 00:50:40.264
  • Do your homework.
  • 00:50:40.264 --> 00:50:41.932
  • Jack reminded us of our awesome opportunity and
  • 00:50:41.932 --> 00:50:44.635
  • Sacred responsibility to vote in our elections.
  • 00:50:44.635 --> 00:50:48.639
  • To research, review voting records,
  • 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.375
  • To pray with our families,
  • 00:50:51.375 --> 00:50:53.611
  • Teaching our children these important skills.
  • 00:50:53.611 --> 00:50:56.514
  • Remember, freedom isn't passed on to our children
  • 00:50:56.514 --> 00:50:59.049
  • In the bloodstream.
  • 00:50:59.049 --> 00:51:00.317
  • It must be fought for, protected and handed onto
  • 00:51:00.317 --> 00:51:03.888
  • Them to do the same.
  • 00:51:03.888 --> 00:51:06.223
  • And to do this well, we must do our homework.
  • 00:51:06.223 --> 00:51:09.927
  • Guard liberty.
  • 00:51:09.927 --> 00:51:11.896
  • Jesus said he came to set captives free and set at
  • 00:51:11.896 --> 00:51:15.599
  • Liberty those who live in bondage.
  • 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.768
  • Paul said where the spirit of the lord is,
  • 00:51:17.768 --> 00:51:20.171
  • There is freedom.
  • 00:51:20.171 --> 00:51:21.672
  • And if we're followers of jesus,
  • 00:51:21.672 --> 00:51:23.507
  • Full of his holy spirit, we should not only wear
  • 00:51:23.507 --> 00:51:26.177
  • The belt of truth and put on the helmet of
  • 00:51:26.177 --> 00:51:28.579
  • Salvation, but also take up the shield of faith to
  • 00:51:28.579 --> 00:51:32.750
  • Extinguish the fiery arrows of the evil one.
  • 00:51:32.750 --> 00:51:35.986
  • Liberty is always under attack.
  • 00:51:35.986 --> 00:51:38.022
  • Guarding it for the sake of future generations is
  • 00:51:38.022 --> 00:51:41.091
  • Part of loving our neighbors as ourselves.
  • 00:51:41.091 --> 00:51:44.862
  • Courage is contagious.
  • 00:51:44.862 --> 00:51:47.598
  • What a great reminder that is.
  • 00:51:47.598 --> 00:51:49.500
  • What would it look like for you to step up and lead,
  • 00:51:49.500 --> 00:51:52.937
  • As penny said, in your community this season?
  • 00:51:52.937 --> 00:51:55.439
  • Remind people to vote.
  • 00:51:55.439 --> 00:51:58.642
  • Our voice doesn't have to stop with our vote.
  • 00:51:58.642 --> 00:52:01.212
  • We can remind others about the importance of
  • 00:52:01.212 --> 00:52:03.347
  • The vote, specifically their vote.
  • 00:52:03.347 --> 00:52:06.617
  • That's all for this episode of takeaways.
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