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Praise | May 8, 2017

Praise

May 8, 2017

57:31

Bil Cornelius hosts Jonathan Falwell, Jay Haizlip and David Crank.

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Praise | May 8, 2017

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[MUSIC]
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT
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FROM DALLAS, TEXAS...
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SENIOR PASTOR OF
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THOMAS ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH
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IN LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA...
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JONATHAN FALWELL;
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FOUNDER AND SENIOR PASTOR OF
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THE SANCTUARY IN ORANGE COUNTY,
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CALIFORNIA...
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JAY HAIZLIP;
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FOUNDER AND SENIOR PASTOR OF
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FAITH CHURCH IN ST. LOUIS,
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MISSOURI...
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DAVID CRANK;
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PASTOR OF CHURCH UNLIMITED
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IN CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS...
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BIL CORNELIUS
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NEXT ON "PRAISE."
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- BIL CORNELIUS: WELL,
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WELCOME!
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[APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US
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TODAY.
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LOOK AT THIS CROWD!
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[APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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- BIL: MAN!
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LOOK AT THIS!
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[APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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YOU GUYS...ALL RIGHT.
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I SEE HOW IT'S GONNA BE TODAY.
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IT'S GONNA BE ROWDY.
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I CAN SEE THAT.
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SO, YOU GUYS ARE READY
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TO HAVE CHURCH.
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I LOVE IT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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WE'RE SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU GUYS
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THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR
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"PRAISE."
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IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU AND
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JUST TO BE IN YOUR HOME RIGHT
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NOW.
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AND, JUST ON BEHALF OF TBN, WE
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WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE A
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PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
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AND I WANNA TELL YOU -- WE GOT
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SOME HIGH-POWERED LEADERS WITH
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US.
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THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT
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PROGRAM.
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM DREAM
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TO DESTINY.
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HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE A
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DREAM THAT GOD'S PUT IN YOUR
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HEART AND YOU'RE READY TO SEE
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IT HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE?
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ANYBODY?
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I'M JUST CURIOUS.
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ANYBODY HAVE THAT?
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[APPLAUSE]
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ALL RIGHT.
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SO, TODAY...TODAY WE'RE TALKING
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TO SOME AMAZING LEADERS.
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THESE GUYS HAVE BUILT GREAT
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MINISTRIES, THEY HAVE BUILT
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GREAT FAMILIES, THEY HAVE BUILT
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GREAT INFLUENCE IN THEIR LIVES,
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AS WELL THE LIVES OF OTHER
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PEOPLE.
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AND WHAT'S REALLY FUN, TOO,
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IS ON THIS PANEL THERE'S
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MULTIGENERATIONS OF MINISTRY
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GOING ON HERE, WHICH IS REALLY
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FUN.
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SO, YOU'RE GONNA GET TO HEAR
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SOME GREAT STORIES.
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AND SO, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT
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HAVING YOU BE A PART OF THIS.
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BUT, LISTEN, I DON'T WANNA JUST
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TALK ABOUT THESE GREAT LEADERS.
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I WANNA SHOW YOU THIS VIDEO
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ABOUT WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT
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THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED.
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: TONIGHT ON
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"PRAISE," FROM THOMAS ROAD
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BAPTIST CHURCH,
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SENIOR PASTOR JONATHAN FALWELL.
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SON OF THE LATE
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JERRY FALWELL, SR.,
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JONATHAN WAS UNSURE HE COULD
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FILL HIS FATHER'S SHOES.
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- JONATHAN FALWELL: ...AS I
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WAS SCARED TO DEATH.
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I HAD NO CLUE WHAT TO DO, NO
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IDEA WHERE WE WERE GONNA HEAD,
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BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE
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ONLY THING THAT MY DAD WOULD
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WANT SAID IS THAT IT IS NOT I
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BUT CHRIST.
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: TODAY, THE
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LEGACY OF JERRY FALWELL LIVES
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ON THROUGH HIS SON JONATHAN,
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WHO'S MAKING HIS OWN IMPACT ON
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THE CULTURE.
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HE ALSO MADE HIS MARK ON THE
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POLITICAL SCENE BY PRAYING
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BEFORE THE HOUSE OF
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REPRESENTATIVES AND AT NATIONAL
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EVENTS.
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- JONATHAN: GOD NEVER CALLED
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ME TO BE POPULAR; HE CALLED ME
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TO BE FAITHFUL.
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: PASTOR
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JONATHAN FALWELL IS HERE TO
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SHARE A SPECIAL MESSAGE WITH
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YOU.
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NO MATTER YOUR HERITAGE, GOD
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HAS A DREAM FOR YOUR LIFE, AS
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WELL.
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GROWING UP IN SOUTHERN
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CALIFORNIA IN THE 70S, JAY
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HAIZLIP WAS DESTINED FOR A WILD
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WHEN HIS CHAMPAGNE DREAMS
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DIDN'T LIVE UP TO HIS BEER
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BUDGET, HE TURNED TO THE NEXT
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WILD RIDE... SELLING DRUGS.
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BUT GOD HAD ANOTHER WILD RIDE
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FOR JAY.
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- JAY HAIZLIP: ONE NIGHT, I
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WAS ACTUALLY ON MY WAY TO DO A
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DRUG DEAL AND GOD PUT A MAN IN
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MY PATH THAT DID SHARE JESUS
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WITH ME.
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JESUS CHRIST CAME INTO MY LIFE
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AND JESUS RADICALLY CHANGED ME
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: GOD HAS
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TAKEN EVERY PART OF JAY'S PAST
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AND USED IT TO SPEAK INTO
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PEOPLE'S LIVES TO BRING
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HEALING.
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THE LATEST RIDE HAS BEEN
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REALITY SHOW "PREACHERS OF L.A."
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RIDING THE MEDIA FRENZY, JAY
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HAS PREACHED FROM THE PULPIT OF
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SECULAR ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAMS,
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SUCH AS "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD,"
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"TV GUIDE," AND "EXTRA."
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JAY HAS LEARNED THAT DESPITE
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HIS PAST, GOD'S DREAM FOR HIS
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LIFE HAS NEVER BEEN STIFLED.
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[APPLAUSE]
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DAVID CRANK, FOUNDER AND SENIOR
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PASTOR OF FAITH CHURCH IN ST.
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LOUIS, MISSOURI, ONE OF THE
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FASTEST GROWING CHURCHES IN
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AMERICA, IS KNOWN FOR HIS
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UNIQUE STYLE OF TEACHING AND
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OUT-OF-THE-BOX USE OF CREATIVE
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ELEMENTS.
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- DAVID CRANK: HE JUST--
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SOMEBODY JUST KNOCKED DOWN--
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LIKE MY DREAM TURNED INTO A
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NIGHTMARE.
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ANYBODY EVER HAD THAT?
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: FROM HIS
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CHURCH, HIS TELEVISION MINISTRY
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IMPACTS AND REACHES MILLIONS OF
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PEOPLE EACH YEAR.
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PASTOR DAVID HAS BEEN
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PRIVILEGED TO MINISTER TO A
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LARGE GLOBAL AUDIENCE WHERE HE
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USES HIS MOTIVATIONAL HUMOR AND
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INSPIRATIONAL WIT WHILE
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SPEAKING AT CHURCHES AROUND THE
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WORLD.
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- DAVID: WHEN YOU'RE CLIMBING
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YOUR MOUNTAIN, YOU NEVER GIVE
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UP AS IF YOU ARE WEAKER, EVEN
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IF YOU FEEL WEAKER, BECAUSE YOU
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HAVE THE CODE OF GOD'S FAVOR.
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AND SO, YOU SAY: I WILL NOT
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SURRENDER.
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[APPLAUSE]
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COME ON, SOMEBODY.
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I WILL NOT CAVE IN.
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- FEMALE ANNOUNCER: DAVID'S
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LIFE IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW GOD
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CAN USE YOUR GIFTS TO LEAD YOU
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TO YOUR DESTINY.
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NEXT ON "PRAISE."
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[APPLAUSE]
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- BIL: WOW.
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[APPLAUSE, CHEERS]
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SHOWIN' YOU GUYS...
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SO, I WILL TELL YOU ONE OF THE
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WAYS I KNOW I'VE GOT SOME
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HIGH-POWERED LEADERS HERE IS IT
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TOOK ME MONTHS TO WRESTLE THESE
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GUYS DOWN TO GET THEM HERE AT
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THE SAME TIME.
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BUT, IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE EACH
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AND EACH OF YOU HAVE SO MUCH
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UNIQUENESS TO EACH OF YOUR
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STORIES.
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JAY, I WANNA START WITH YOU A
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LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM
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A DREAM TO A DESTINY.
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BUT YOUR DREAM TURNED
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INTO A NIGHTMARE,
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AND THEN YOU HAD TO FIGURE OUT,
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"WHAT AM I DOIN'?"
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TELL US THAT.
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BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
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JUST THINK: OH, EVERYTHING
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THESE GUYS HAVE TOUCHED HAS
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TURNED TO GOLD.
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EVERYTHING THEY DO HAS
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JUST BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
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THAT'S NOT BEEN THE STORY.
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- JAY: NO, YOU KNOW, I LOVE MY
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MY MOTHER WAS A HIPPIE AND SHE
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WAS A TEENAGER WHEN I WAS BORN.
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AND SO, I DIDN'T GROW UP IN THE
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CHURCH WORLD OR ANYTHING LIKE
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THAT.
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BUT MY MOM, SHE WAS A GREAT MOM.
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SHE GAVE ME A SKATEBOARD FROM
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AND THAT KINDA LIKE BENT ME IN
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A DIRECTION THAT CHANGED MY
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LIFE.
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'CAUSE I BECAME A SKATER, AND
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I'VE SKATEBOARDED ALL MY LIFE.
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AND, BEFORE LONG, STARTED
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GETTING SPONSORED AND JUST
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LIVING THAT TYPE OF LIFE.
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MOVED TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
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BUT THEN, I GOT INVOLVED IN
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DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND THINGS
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LIKE THAT, AS WELL.
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AND THAT NEARLY DESTROYED MY
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LIFE.
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AND EVEN THOUGH I WAS STILL
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CLIMBING THE LADDER OF SUCCESS
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-- YOU KNOW, I HAD GOALS, I HAD
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DREAMS, I HAD AMBITIONS TO DO
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THINGS AND ACCOMPLISH THINGS --
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BUT, BECAUSE OF MY ADDICTION,
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IT BEGAN TO ROB-- ROB ME OF
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EVERYTHING.
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- BIL: MMH.
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WOW.
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- JAY: ANYTHING THAT MEANT
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ANYTHING TO ME.
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AND, EVENTUALLY, I LOST IT ALL.
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AND THAT'S WHAT-- I THINK ME
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HITTING ROCK BOTTOM WAS WHAT
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ACTUALLY TOOK ME TO THE PLACE
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OF...REALIZING I NEEDED GOD.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- JAY: 'CAUSE NOBODY EVER TOLD
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ME, NOBODY EVER SAID: JAY, WHAT
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YOU REALLY NEED IN LIFE IS GOD.
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JESUS HAS THE ANSWER.
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AND I TRIED EVERYTHING THAT I
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WAS AWARE OF...TO CHANGE MY
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LIFE, BUT NONE OF IT WAS
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WORKING FOR ME.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- JAY: AND, WHEN I HIT ROCK
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BOTTOM, AND I WAS JUST FACED
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WITH THE REALITY AND I FELT SO
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HOPELESS, AND I FELT STUCK, AND
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I DIDN'T SEE HOW MY LIFE COULD
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CHANGE, THEN I LOOKED UP AT THE
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CEILING AND I STARTED CRYIN'.
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I JUST BEGGED GOD.
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I JUST SAID, "GOD, IF YOU'RE
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REAL, YOU KNOW, WHY WON'T YOU
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HELP ME?"
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'CAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW
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I COULD BE THE WAY THAT I WAS,
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WANTED TO CHANGE, COULDN'T
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CHANGE, AND I DEFINITELY DIDN'T
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UNDERSTAND THAT GOD WAS CAPABLE
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OF HELPING ME.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- JAY: YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I
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THOUGHT HE WAS THERE AND I WAS
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HERE AND I JUST HAD TO DO THE
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BEST THAT I COULD.
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BUT I KNOW GOD HEARD THAT
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PRAYER AND I CAN LOOK BACK ON
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IT AND SEE HOW GOD BEGAN TO
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ORCHESTRATE THE EVENTS IN MY
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LIFE THAT LED ME UP TO THAT
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POINT WHERE THAT MAN LED ME TO
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JESUS.
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AND THAT'S WHEN I REALLY BEGAN
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TO DISCOVER WHY I WAS REALLY
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HERE.
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- BIL: THAT'S GREAT.
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- JAY: REAL PURPOSE, REAL
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DREAM, REAL DESTINY.
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AND I REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW,
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SOMETIMES WE-- I HAD A DREAM
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FOR MY LIFE.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- JAY: I WANTED TO SKATEBOARD,
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I WANTED TO LIVE THE KIND OF
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BUT THEN, WHEN I GAVE MY LIFE
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TO JESUS, WHEN I SURRENDERED TO
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JESUS, ALL OF SUDDEN I
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DISCOVERED THAT GOD ACTUALLY
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- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
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- JAY: AND SOMETIMES WE THINK,
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YOU KNOW: GOD, IS THERE A REAL
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REASON FOR ME BEING HERE?
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BUT I THINK GOD DREAMS FOR
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EVERY PERSON.
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AND I THINK GOD DESIRES TO
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BRING US ALL INTO THAT PLACE
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WHERE HE CAN REVEAL HIS DREAM
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FOR US.
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- BIL: WOW.
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AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IS I
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GAVE MY LIFE TO JESUS.
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IT PUT ME IN A POSITION WHERE I
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BEGAN TO SENSE THAT GOD WANTED
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TO DO SOMETHING WITH MY LIFE.
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YOU KNOW, IN MATTHEW 13, JESUS
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TALKS ABOUT A MAN FINDING A
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FIELD WITH TREASURE BURIED IN
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IT.
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AND SELLS EVERYTHING HE HAS,
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BUYS A FIELD FOR THE TREASURE
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THAT'S ON THE INSIDE OF
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THAT FIELD.
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AND, I REALIZED THAT WE'RE LIKE
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THAT FIELD.
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AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
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ALL THEY CAN SEE IS THE
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DIRT, NOT REALIZING THAT
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THERE'S TREASURE HIDDEN
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UNDERNEATH THE DIRT.
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- BIL: WOW...THAT'S SO GOOD.
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- JAY: AND FOR A LONG TIME, I
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THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKED
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AT ME -- 12 YEARS
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OF ADDICTION, 12 YEARS OF
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COCAINE, LOSING EVERYTHING --
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THEY WOULD HAVE EASILY SEEN THE
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DIRT.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- JAY: BUT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE
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COULD HAVE SEEN THE TREASURE...
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- BIL: WOW.
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- JAY: ...THAT WAS UNDERNEATH
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THE DIRT.
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- MALE OFF-CAMERA: SO GOOD.
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- JAY: I BELIEVE EVERYBODY HAS
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TREASURE IN 'EM.
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[APPLAUSE]
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- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD, ISN'T
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IT?
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- JAY: YEAH.
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[APPLAUSE]
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- BIL: WOW.
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- JAY: I BELIEVE WE COME INTO
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THIS WORLD WITH IT.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- JAY: I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE
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GIFTINGS, ABILITIES, WE HAVE
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TALENTS.
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BUT I THINK THEY'RE IN RAW
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FORM.
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- BIL: YEAH.
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- JAY: I THINK THEY'RE IN SEED
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FORM.
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AND I THINK WHEN IT REQUIRES
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US, NUMBER ONE-- FOR US TO
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REALLY FULFILL THE POTENTIAL
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THAT WE'RE CAPABLE OF, IT
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REQUIRES US COMPLETELY AND
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TOTALLY SUBMITTING TO THE
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LORDSHIP OF JESUS.
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- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
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- JAY: REGARDLESS OF HOW--
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HOW-- WHAT TYPE OF
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ACCOMPLISHMENTS SOMEBODY COULD
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ACHIEVE, THEY'LL NEVER REACH
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THEIR FULL POTENTIAL WITHOUT
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GIVING THEIR LIFE COMPLETELY TO
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JESUS.
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- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
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- JAY: AND WHEN I GAVE MY LIFE
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TO JESUS, IT WAS LIKE THAT--
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THAT FIELD.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- JAY: AND GOD BEGAN TO TAKE
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THE TREASURE OUT OF THE FIELD.
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AND HE BEGAN TO REVEAL HIS
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DREAM FOR MY LIFE.
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AND, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I
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WENT FROM BEING A-- 'CAUSE I
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GAVE MY LIFE TO JESUS WHEN I
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WAS ACTUALLY ON MY WAY TO DO A
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DRUG DEAL.
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- BIL: WOW.
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- JAY: IT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT.
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I WAS ON MY WAY TO DO A DRUG
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DEAL.
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I WOULD HAVE NEVER HAVE DREAMED
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THAT I WOULD BE A PASTOR,
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THAT I'D BE DOING MINISTRY.
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UM, I WAS THE LAST GUY ANYBODY
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WOULD HAVE EVER THOUGHT WOULD
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DO WHAT I DO.
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THERE'S NOBODY IN MY FAMILY
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THAT'S EVER DONE THIS.
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I'M THE FIRST GUY.
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AND-- AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN
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THE--
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I MEAN, STILL TODAY, IT JUST
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BLOWS ME AWAY.
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I FEEL SO FORTUNATE, I FEEL SO
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PRIVILEGED THAT GOD WOULD ALLOW
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ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE
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HIM.
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- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:10:43.020 --> 00:10:43.200
- JAY: TAKE ME FROM WHERE I
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WAS TO WHERE I AM.
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- BIL: OKAY, I'M SORRY YOU HAD
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TO FOLLOW THAT--
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- DAVID: AH.
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- BIL: --'CAUSE THAT WAS SO
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AMAZING, RIGHT?
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BUT, PASTOR DAVID, YOU
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SPECIALIZE IN PEOPLE THAT ARE
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HURTING.
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YOUR CHURCH IS JUST
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CHOCKED FULL.
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I'VE BEEN TO HIS-- IT'S AN
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INCREDIBLE MINISTRY,
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I'VE BEEN TO BOTH YOUR--
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ALL THREE OR FOUR CAMPUS-- I
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DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY YOU
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HAVE NOW.
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YOU SPECIALIZE IN PEOPLE THAT
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ARE HURTING, MUCH LIKE JAY, WHO
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WAS JUST HURTING, BROKEN,
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JUST...FELL BEFORE THE LORD.
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- DAVID: YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
00:11:10.100 --> 00:11:12.070
- BIL: WHAT DO YOU DO WITH
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SOMEONE LIKE THAT?
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- DAVID: YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND
00:11:13.170 --> 00:11:14.080
OF FUNNY BECAUSE THE OTHER DAY,
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THIS PAST EASTER, THEY WERE
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AND I WAS SITTING ON THE FRONT
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ROW AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY
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THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THERE.
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AND, KATRINA, THIS GIRL WHO IS
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KIND OF OUR SERVICE COORDINATOR
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AND SHE SAID, "SEE THE GUY IN
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THE ROMAN GARB?
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AND HE'S ALL DRESSED UP IN THE
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ROMAN STUFF, YOU KNOW.
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I'M LIKE, "YEAH!"
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SHE'S LIKE, "DO YOU SEE HOW HIS
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SOCKS ARE KINDA LIKE CHUBBY ON
00:11:30.060 --> 00:11:30.270
THE BOTTOM?"
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I'M LIKE, "YEAH."
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SHE GOES: "IT'S BECAUSE HE HAS
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AN ANKLE BRACELET ON.
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HE'S ON HOUSE ARREST."
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[LAUGHTER]
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I'M LIKE: "WHAT?
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[LAUGHTER]
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HE JUST COULD HAVE BEEN A THIEF
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ON THE CROSS.
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WHY DO YOU HAVE HIM BE IN ROMAN
00:11:38.260 --> 00:11:39.180
GUARD?"
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND SO, HE WAS SITTING-- YOU
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KNOW, HE WAS UP THERE.
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AND I WAS SO EXCITED BECAUSE--
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- MALE OFF-CAMERA: THAT'S
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AWESOME.
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- DAVID: --THAT'S EXACTLY, I
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THINK, WHAT THE CHURCH IS
00:11:45.210 --> 00:11:46.100
ABOUT.
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IT'S ABOUT-- YOU KNOW, AT OUR
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CHURCH, YOU'LL SEE A DOCTOR
00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:48.200
SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO SOMEONE
00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:49.110
WHO WAS HOMELESS THREE WEEKS
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AGO.
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OR A PERSON WAS WHO DRUGGED--
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WAS ABOUND BY DRUGS AND A
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PERSON WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE
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FIRST THING ABOUT DRUGS.
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AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES,
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PEOPLE THINK THAT: WELL, YOU
00:11:57.160 --> 00:11:58.080
KNOW WHAT?
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GOD CAN'T FULFILL MY DREAM, HE
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CAN'T DO WHAT I THOUGHT HE
00:12:00.220 --> 00:12:02.190
COULD DO WHEN I HAD THAT HIGH
00:12:02.190 --> 00:12:03.200
SCHOOL DREAM SPEECH AND I WAS
00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:05.150
GONNA DO SOMETHING GREAT.
00:12:05.150 --> 00:12:06.130
- BIL: MMH.
00:12:06.130 --> 00:12:06.280
- DAVID: AND SO, THE ENEMY
00:12:06.280 --> 00:12:07.250
STARTS TRACKING YOU.
00:12:07.250 --> 00:12:09.000
THE BIBLE SAYS THE HE'S THE
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ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN.
00:12:09.260 --> 00:12:10.260
- BIL: MMH.
00:12:10.260 --> 00:12:11.210
- DAVID: SO, HE SAYS:
00:12:11.210 --> 00:12:12.080
[HALF-SINGS]
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YOU'RE NO GOOD, YOU'RE NO GOOD,
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YOU'RE NO GOOD, DAVID, YOU'RE
00:12:14.070 --> 00:12:14.280
NO GOOD.
00:12:14.280 --> 00:12:15.080
AND YOU GOTTA SAY: WAIT A
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MINUTE.
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[SNAPS FINGERS]
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I INTERRUPT THAT IN THE NAME OF
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JESUS.
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:12:17.250 --> 00:12:18.080
[APPLAUSE]
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- DAVID: I'M NOT BASING WHAT
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GOD'S GONNA DO IN MY LIFE ON
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WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT I DID.
00:12:20.040 --> 00:12:20.250
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:12:20.250 --> 00:12:21.130
WOW.
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- DAVID: I'M BASING IT ON WHAT
00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:22.160
HE DID 2.000 YEARS AGO.
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- BIL: YEAH...MMH.
00:12:23.190 --> 00:12:24.110
THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:12:24.110 --> 00:12:24.250
[APPLAUSE]
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- DAVID: AND SO, YOU GOTTA
00:12:25.190 --> 00:12:26.090
SHUT UP THAT ENEMY, WHICH IS
00:12:26.090 --> 00:12:27.040
THE SATAN -- HE COMES TO KILL,
00:12:27.040 --> 00:12:28.150
STEAL, DESTROY -- BUT YOU ALSO
00:12:28.150 --> 00:12:30.020
HAVE TO SHUT UP THAT INNER ME.
00:12:30.020 --> 00:12:30.280
AND THE INNER ME IS ALWAYS
00:12:30.280 --> 00:12:33.020
SAYIN': YOU'RE TOO SHORT.
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YOU'RE TOO FAT.
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YOU'RE TOO TALL.
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YOU'RE NOT EDUCATED.
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HE'S ALWAYS ACCUSING US AND
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THINKING, SAYING: THIS IS WHY
00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:39.280
YOU CAN'T BE THAT.
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AND I'M TELLING YA -- I BELIEVE
00:12:40.260 --> 00:12:42.170
THAT 2017, -18, -19, AND
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2020...
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- BIL: MMH.
00:12:44.160 --> 00:12:45.030
- DAVID: ...ARE GONNA BE THE
00:12:45.030 --> 00:12:45.240
MOST PHENOMENAL YEARS FOR YOU.
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:12:46.170 --> 00:12:47.020
- DAVID: AND YOU JUST GOTTA
00:12:47.020 --> 00:12:47.220
START BELIEVING WHAT THE WORD
00:12:47.220 --> 00:12:48.130
SAYS ABOUT YOU INSTEAD OF WHAT
00:12:48.130 --> 00:12:49.150
THE WORLD SAYS ABOUT YOU.
00:12:49.150 --> 00:12:50.140
'CAUSE IF GOD IS FOR YOU--
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- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:12:53.170 --> 00:12:54.030
- DAVID: --WHO AND WHAT--
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- BIL: WOW.
00:12:54.220 --> 00:12:55.080
THAT'S GOOD.
00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:56.190
- MALE: THAT'S AWESOME.
00:12:56.190 --> 00:12:57.070
- BIL: I LOVE IT.
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[APPLAUSE]
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SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING
00:12:59.160 --> 00:13:00.080
ABOUT DREAMS AND DESTINY.
00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:00.270
AND, JONATHAN, I WANNA PULL YOU
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INTO THIS.
00:13:01.190 --> 00:13:02.100
NOW, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT
00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:03.000
YOU MUST HAVE FELT SOME
00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:03.210
PRESSURE...
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[DAVID LAUGHS]
00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:05.010
...FROM THE FATHER, WHO IS THE
00:13:05.010 --> 00:13:06.160
AMAZING MAN OF GOD -- HE'S WITH
00:13:06.160 --> 00:13:08.110
THE LORD TODAY -- WHAT-- HOW
00:13:08.110 --> 00:13:09.170
DID THAT HIT YOU?
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WAS IT LIKE, "OH, I'M JUST
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READY FOR THIS, I'M GREAT, THIS
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IS ALL GOOD"?
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OR DID YOU FEEL THE WEIGHT OF
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THAT, TO BE TAKING OVER THE
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REALM OF...SUCH A PHENOMENAL
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MINISTRY?
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- JONATHAN: WELL, FIRST OF
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ALL, I WANNA FIND OUT ABOUT
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THIS GUY WHO WAS ON HOUSE
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ARREST.
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[LAUGHTER]
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BECAUSE, I KNOW THAT-- I KNOW
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THE COURT DIDN'T TELL HIM HE
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WAS UNDER HOUSE ARREST AT YOUR
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CHURCH.
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[LAUGHTER]
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SO, DID HE GET ARRESTED THAT
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DAY OR DID HE MAKE IT THROUGH?
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- DAVID: I DON'T KNOW, MAN,
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BUT I KNOW HE HAD WITNESSES
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THAT HE HAD BEEN TO CHURCH.
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- JONATHAN: OKAY.
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[LAUGHTER]
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SO, WHAT HAPPENS IN CHURCH
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STAYS IN CHURCH.
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- DAVID: YEAH.
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[CHUCKLES]
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- BIL: THERE YOU GO, THERE YOU
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GO.
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- JONATHAN: SO, WE'RE GOOD
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WITH THAT.
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UM...YOU KNOW, THE WEIGHT, THE
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BURDEN--
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- BIL: YEAH.
00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:44.160
- JONATHAN: --THE OVERWHELMING
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SENSE WHEN MY DAD PASSED AWAY
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AND STEPPING INTO, COMING
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ALONGSIDE A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE
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THAT GOD HAD BROUGHT AROUND OUR
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CHURCH -- YEAH, THERE'S NO
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IT WAS JUST THIS-- YOU KNOW,
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"MAN, THERE'S NO WAY IN THE
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WORLD I CAN PULL THIS OFF."
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AND, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
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THOSE MOMENTS OF FEELING LIKE I
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DIDN'T HAVE WHAT IT TOOK, THE
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MOMENTS OF FEELING LIKE THERE
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WAS NO WAY THAT I HAD THE RIGHT
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THINGS TO SAY, THE RIGHT THINGS
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TO DO, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
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DIRECTION TO GO WERE SOME OF
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THE GREATEST MOMENTS OF MY
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LIFE.
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BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED DURING
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THAT TIME -- I FOUND A PASSAGE
00:14:14.070 --> 00:14:16.090
IN 2 CORINTHIANS 3 THAT TELL ME
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AND TELLS YOU AND TELLS ALL OF
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US THAT OUR SUFFICIENCY IS NOT
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OF OURSELVES.
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OUR SUFFICIENCY IS OF CHRIST.
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- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
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- JONATHAN: AND SO, WHEN WE
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RECOGNIZE THAT, YEAH, WE DON'T
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HAVE WHAT IT TAKES, AND WE'RE
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NOT SMART ENOUGH, AND WE'RE NOT
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GOOD ENOUGH, AND WE DON'T HAVE
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ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THEN WHAT
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WE'RE LEFT WITH IS ONE VERY
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IMPORTANT TRUTH: WE BETTER
00:14:34.210 --> 00:14:36.260
DEPEND ON GOD OR WE'RE GONNA
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BLOW IT AND WE'RE GONNA FALL
00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:39.270
FLAT ON OUR FACE.
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- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:42.090
- JONATHAN: AND SO, THAT'S
00:14:42.090 --> 00:14:42.290
WHAT I, UH, HOW I BEGAN MY
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MINISTRY.
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IT WAS-- "GOD, I CAN'T DO
00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:46.130
THIS."
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- JONATHAN: IN FACT, THE VERY
00:14:50.020 --> 00:14:50.240
FIRST DAY THAT I PREACHED AS A
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SENIOR PASTOR, UM, IT WAS A FEW
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DAYS AFTER MY DAD HAD PASSED
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AWAY.
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AND I GATHERED TOGETHER BACK IN
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THE BACKSTAGE AREA OF OUR
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CHURCH AND I GATHERED ALL OF
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OUR PASTORS TOGETHER.
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WE WERE ALL AROUND IN THIS
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LARGE ROOM IN THE BACK, BEHIND
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AND...AND SO, WE WENT AROUND
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BEFORE THE SERVICES THAT DAY --
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AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE ALL
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GATHERED TOGETHER, THOUSANDS OF
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PEOPLE AND MANY MORE BY
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TELEVISION -- AND SO WE WENT
00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:14.040
AROUND AND WE STARTED JUST
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PRAYING AROUND THE CIRCLE.
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AND, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU GET
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PREACHERS TOGETHER AND THEY
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START PRAYING, YOU KNOW,
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EVERYBODY'S JUST KINDA RAMPIN'
00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:20.240
IT UP, YOU KNOW?
00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:21.090
- BIL: YEAH.
00:15:21.090 --> 00:15:21.230
- JONATHAN: THE NEXT GUY WANTS
00:15:21.230 --> 00:15:22.250
TO SOUND BETTER THAN THE LAST
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GUY, YOU KNOW.
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SO, THEY'RE ALL GOING ALONG.
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AND BY THE TIME WE GOT AROUND
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TO THE LAST FEW GUYS PRAYIN', I
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MEAN, WE WERE-- I MEAN, THEY
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WERE CALLIN' DOWN HEAVEN, YOU
00:15:28.150 --> 00:15:29.060
KNOW?
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND IT GOT TO ME.
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AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU --
00:15:30.110 --> 00:15:31.020
I DIDN'T HAVE THE WORDS IN ME.
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AND I JUST SIMPLY SAID THIS:
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"GOD, I CAN'T DO IT.
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BUT I KNOW THAT YOU CAN.
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AND SO, GOD, I'M CALLING ON YOU
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-- DO IT TODAY."
00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.160
- JAY: WOW.
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- JONATHAN: AND I'VE PRAYED
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THAT PRAYER EVERY TIME THAT
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I'VE PREACHED A SERMON IN THE
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LAST 10 YEARS OF MY LIFE.
00:15:43.210 --> 00:15:44.110
- JAY: WOW.
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- JONATHAN: I PRAY THAT PRAYER
00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:45.220
EVERY SINGLE TIME BEFORE I WALK
00:15:45.220 --> 00:15:46.170
ON THE STAGE BECAUSE I KNOW I
00:15:46.170 --> 00:15:47.090
CAN'T DO IT.
00:15:47.090 --> 00:15:49.040
- JAY: WOW.
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- JONATHAN: I KNOW I DON'T
00:15:49.180 --> 00:15:50.080
HAVE WHAT IT TAKES.
00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:50.240
I KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:51.140
SAY.
00:15:51.140 --> 00:15:52.090
I KNOW ALL OF THAT STUFF.
00:15:52.090 --> 00:15:53.160
I KNOW THAT I'M NO DIFFERENT
00:15:53.160 --> 00:15:54.170
THAN EVERYBODY ELSE, ROMANS
00:15:54.170 --> 00:15:55.250
3:23 -- THAT WE ARE ALL SINNERS
00:15:55.250 --> 00:15:56.190
WHO'VE FALLEN WAY SHORT.
00:15:56.190 --> 00:15:57.290
- BIL: YEAH.
00:15:57.290 --> 00:15:59.130
- JONATHAN: WE'VE BLOWN IT
00:15:59.130 --> 00:16:00.090
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
00:16:00.090 --> 00:16:01.000
- BIL: YEAH.
00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:02.000
- JONATHAN: AND KNOWING THAT
00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.070
TO BE TRUE.
00:16:03.070 --> 00:16:03.260
UM...
00:16:03.260 --> 00:16:04.110
- BIL: SO GOOD, SO GOOD.
00:16:04.110 --> 00:16:05.010
-JONATHAN: MAN, WHEN I STAND
00:16:05.010 --> 00:16:05.220
UP TO PREACH THE WORD OF GOD,
00:16:05.220 --> 00:16:06.130
WHEN I STAND UP TO PREACH THE
00:16:06.130 --> 00:16:07.110
GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, I DON'T
00:16:07.110 --> 00:16:08.030
WANT IT TO BE MY WORDS.
00:16:08.030 --> 00:16:09.050
I WANT IT TO BE HIS WORDS AND
00:16:09.050 --> 00:16:10.130
HIS WORDS ALONE AND THAT'S IT.
00:16:10.130 --> 00:16:11.090
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:16:11.090 --> 00:16:12.070
- JAY: WOW.
00:16:12.070 --> 00:16:13.050
- JONATHAN: AND SO, IT'S, UH--
00:16:13.050 --> 00:16:13.270
I CAN'T DO IT.
00:16:13.270 --> 00:16:14.100
HE CAN.
00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:14.240
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:15.120
I LOVE IT.
00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:15.240
[APPLAUSE]
00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.010
THAT'S SO GREAT.
00:16:17.010 --> 00:16:17.160
AND HERE, YOU KNOW...
00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:19.080
[CLEARS THROAT]
00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:20.060
[APPLAUSE]
00:16:20.060 --> 00:16:21.020
NOW...
00:16:21.020 --> 00:16:21.240
[APPLAUSE]
00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:22.150
NOW, I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT YOU
00:16:22.150 --> 00:16:23.080
THAT I DIDN'T TELL YOU IN THE
00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:24.040
GREEN ROOM -- I WAS GONNA SAY
00:16:24.040 --> 00:16:25.280
THIS -- 'CAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE
00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:26.190
TOLD ME NOT TO.
00:16:26.190 --> 00:16:28.040
BUT, WHAT'S REALLY COOL -- SO,
00:16:28.040 --> 00:16:28.250
JERRY FALWELL, PHENOMENAL MAN
00:16:28.250 --> 00:16:29.230
OF GOD.
00:16:29.230 --> 00:16:30.280
I MEAN, HOW MANY OF US DO NOT
00:16:30.280 --> 00:16:31.190
KNOW WHO THAT IS?
00:16:31.190 --> 00:16:32.120
- DAVID: EVERYBODY.
00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:33.010
- BIL: I MEAN, THE GUY'S JUST
00:16:33.010 --> 00:16:33.230
AN INCREDIBLE MAN OF GOD, AND,
00:16:33.230 --> 00:16:34.140
UH, JUST DONE AN AMAZING THING.
00:16:34.140 --> 00:16:35.140
NOT ONLY BUILT AN AMAZING
00:16:35.140 --> 00:16:37.040
I MEAN, LYNCHBURG, VIRGINIA'S
00:16:39.210 --> 00:16:40.120
NOT EVEN THE SAME CITY BECAUSE
00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:41.030
OF WHAT YOUR PARENTS HAVE DONE
00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:41.240
THERE, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL.
00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:42.170
A GREAT UNIVERSITY, ALL THAT.
00:16:42.170 --> 00:16:45.020
SO, HERE, YOU KNOW, HE PASSES
00:16:45.020 --> 00:16:47.050
WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW --
00:16:50.130 --> 00:16:51.040
AND I'M GONNA GIVE THIS AWAY,
00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:51.250
SO FORGIVE ME, I'M GONNA
00:16:51.250 --> 00:16:52.160
EMBARRASS YOU A LITTLE BIT HERE
00:16:52.160 --> 00:16:53.210
-- BUT, THE NEXT YEAR, WHEN HE
00:16:53.210 --> 00:16:55.030
TOOK OVER AS PASTOR, THEIR
00:16:55.030 --> 00:16:56.120
CHURCH WAS THE FASTEST
00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:57.190
NUMERICAL-GROWING CHURCH IN
00:16:57.190 --> 00:16:59.200
AMERICA.
00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:00.100
- DAVID: WOW.
00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:00.280
- JAY: WOW.
00:17:00.280 --> 00:17:02.170
- BIL: SO, GOD NOT ONLY DID
00:17:02.170 --> 00:17:03.070
SOMETHING SPECIAL THROUGH YOU,
00:17:03.070 --> 00:17:04.110
HE PUT AN ANOINTING ON YOU THAT
00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:06.130
SAID YOUR DAD WAS AMAZING, BUT
00:17:06.130 --> 00:17:08.030
YOU ARE YOUR OWN MAN AND LOOK
00:17:08.030 --> 00:17:10.040
AT WHAT GOD'S GONNA DO THROUGH
00:17:10.040 --> 00:17:10.250
YOU.
00:17:10.250 --> 00:17:11.230
- DAVID: MMH.
00:17:11.230 --> 00:17:12.100
- BIL: SO, I JUST HONOR YOU.
00:17:12.100 --> 00:17:13.020
THAT'S AMAZING.
00:17:13.020 --> 00:17:13.190
[APPLAUSE]
00:17:13.190 --> 00:17:14.120
- JONATHAN: WELL, CHUCK
00:17:14.120 --> 00:17:15.010
SWINDOLL SAID ONE TIME...
00:17:15.010 --> 00:17:17.040
[APPLAUSE]
00:17:17.040 --> 00:17:18.140
- BIL: ISN'T IT AMAZING?
00:17:18.140 --> 00:17:19.110
INCREDIBLE.
00:17:19.110 --> 00:17:19.240
[APPLAUSE]
00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:20.150
- JONATHAN: CHUCK SWINDOLL
00:17:20.150 --> 00:17:21.050
SAID ONE TIME THAT WHEN GOD'S
00:17:21.050 --> 00:17:22.010
MAN DIES, GOD'S WORK NEVER
00:17:22.010 --> 00:17:22.200
DOES.
00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:24.130
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:17:24.130 --> 00:17:24.290
- JONATHAN: AND SO, TO ME,
00:17:24.290 --> 00:17:25.190
EVERY TIME THAT I HAVE THE
00:17:25.190 --> 00:17:27.090
PRIVILEGE AND THE OPPORTUNITY
00:17:27.090 --> 00:17:28.030
OF BEING AROUND SOMETHING WHERE
00:17:28.030 --> 00:17:29.090
GOD IS DOING SOMETHING AMAZING
00:17:29.090 --> 00:17:30.150
IN OUR CHURCH OR THROUGH OUR
00:17:30.150 --> 00:17:31.220
MINISTRY, IT'S JUST A MOMENT
00:17:31.290 --> 00:17:34.290
FOR ME TO CELEBRATE THE FACT
00:17:34.290 --> 00:17:36.060
THAT, YOU KNOW-- OUR MINISTRY
00:17:36.060 --> 00:17:37.170
THAT IS NOW OVER 60 YEARS OLD,
00:17:37.170 --> 00:17:39.020
OUR CHURCH IS OVER 60 YEARS OLD.
00:17:39.120 --> 00:17:42.120
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE SOME
00:17:42.120 --> 00:17:43.030
INCREDIBLE THINGS THROUGH THE
00:17:43.030 --> 00:17:44.280
YEARS -- PLANTED OVER 5.000
00:17:44.280 --> 00:17:46.260
CHURCHES JUST IN THE LAST THREE
00:17:46.260 --> 00:17:47.180
YEARS...
00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:48.050
- BIL: TCHEW!
00:17:48.050 --> 00:17:49.180
- JONATHAN: ...UM, AROUND THE
00:17:49.180 --> 00:17:50.090
WORLD.
00:17:50.090 --> 00:17:50.230
- BIL: GOODNESS.
00:17:50.230 --> 00:17:51.150
- JONATHAN: AND WHAT I DO IS I
00:17:51.150 --> 00:17:53.050
RECOGNIZE THAT THE GREATEST
00:17:53.050 --> 00:17:53.250
THING ABOUT WHAT WE DO IS THAT
00:17:53.250 --> 00:17:54.270
WE ALL SEE THAT THIS WAS NEVER
00:17:54.270 --> 00:17:56.190
ABOUT MY DAD AND IT'S NOT ABOUT
00:17:56.190 --> 00:17:57.280
ME, THAT THIS MINISTRY'S ABOUT
00:17:57.280 --> 00:18:00.060
CHRIST AND CHRIST ALONE.
00:18:00.060 --> 00:18:01.010
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:18:01.010 --> 00:18:01.200
- JONATHAN: AND, YOU CAN'T GO
00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.200
WRONG WHEN YOU FOCUS ON THAT.
00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:05.240
- BIL: YEAH.
00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:06.070
- JONATHAN: YOU KNOW, YOU
00:18:06.070 --> 00:18:07.120
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW, YOU
00:18:09.290 --> 00:18:10.200
KNOW, YOU HAD A DREAM OF WHAT
00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.110
YOU WANTED TO DO, WHERE YOU
00:18:11.110 --> 00:18:12.110
WANTED TO GO, AND HOW-- YOU
00:18:12.110 --> 00:18:13.220
KNOW, WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE
00:18:13.220 --> 00:18:14.120
WHEN YOU GREW UP, SO TO SPEAK,
00:18:14.120 --> 00:18:15.040
YOU KNOW?
00:18:15.040 --> 00:18:15.210
- JAY: YEAH.
00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:16.060
- JONATHAN: UM, A LOT OF TIMES
00:18:16.060 --> 00:18:17.260
WHEN WE PUT OURSELVES INTO
00:18:17.260 --> 00:18:19.020
GOD'S HANDS, WHEN WE RECOGNIZE
00:18:19.020 --> 00:18:19.250
THAT WE DON'T HAVE WHAT IT
00:18:19.250 --> 00:18:20.290
TAKES, THAT WE'RE NOT CAPABLE
00:18:20.290 --> 00:18:21.260
OF DOING ANYTHING ON OUR OWN
00:18:21.260 --> 00:18:22.240
APART FROM GOD, WHAT ENDS UP
00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:24.010
HAPPENING IS, YOU KNOW, GOD'S
00:18:24.010 --> 00:18:26.040
- BIL: YEAH.
00:18:31.060 --> 00:18:31.190
- JONATHAN: AND, WHAT ENDS UP
00:18:31.190 --> 00:18:32.100
HAPPENING IS THAT DESTINY THAT
00:18:32.100 --> 00:18:33.010
COMES ALONG BEYOND IT IS
00:18:33.010 --> 00:18:33.190
SOMETHING THAT GOES BEYOND
00:18:33.190 --> 00:18:34.080
ANYTHING THAT WE COULD EVER
00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:34.280
POSSIBLY IMAGINE.
00:18:35.110 --> 00:18:38.110
YOU KNOW, YOU QUOTED THAT VERSE
00:18:38.110 --> 00:18:39.030
A FEW MOMENTS AGO -- THE THIEF
00:18:39.030 --> 00:18:41.060
COMES TO STEAL AND TO KILL AND
00:18:41.060 --> 00:18:41.270
TO DESTROY.
00:18:41.270 --> 00:18:42.120
BUT THEN, THE REST OF THAT
00:18:42.120 --> 00:18:43.010
VERSE I LOVE.
00:18:43.010 --> 00:18:43.160
- BIL: MM-HMM.
00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:44.010
- JONATHAN: BUT JESUS SAID: I
00:18:44.010 --> 00:18:44.220
HAVE COME THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE
00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:45.130
LIFE...
00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:45.290
AND WHAT?
00:18:45.290 --> 00:18:46.130
OVER THE TOP, MORE ABUNDANTLY.
00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:47.180
- BIL: YEAH...THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:48.250
- JONATHAN: SO, THAT IS TRUE
00:18:48.250 --> 00:18:49.160
IN MINISTRY, THAT IS TRUE IN
00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:50.070
LIFE, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS
00:18:50.070 --> 00:18:50.290
WHEN WE RECOGNIZE--
00:18:50.290 --> 00:18:51.190
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:18:51.190 --> 00:18:52.170
- JONATHAN: --IT'S NOT ABOUT
00:18:52.170 --> 00:18:53.080
US, IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM.
00:18:53.080 --> 00:18:53.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:18:53.290 --> 00:18:54.160
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:55.040
[APPLAUSE]
00:18:55.040 --> 00:18:55.170
MAN, THIS IS GETTIN' FIRED UP.
00:18:55.170 --> 00:18:56.080
- JAY: WOW.
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[LAUGHTER]
00:18:56.200 --> 00:18:57.020
[APPLAUSE]
00:18:57.020 --> 00:18:57.200
- BIL: I GET EXCITED.
00:18:57.200 --> 00:18:58.120
- JAY: POWERFUL.
00:18:58.120 --> 00:18:59.000
- BIL: SO, OKAY...
00:18:59.000 --> 00:18:59.160
NOW, DAVID, YOU-- NOW, YOU TOOK
00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:00.100
OVER YOUR FATHER'S MINISTRY,
00:19:00.100 --> 00:19:01.210
TOO, IN AN UNTIMELY WAY--
00:19:01.210 --> 00:19:03.040
- DAVID: YEAH.
00:19:03.040 --> 00:19:04.120
- BIL: --THAT YOU WEREN'T
00:19:04.120 --> 00:19:05.060
PREPARED FOR.
00:19:05.060 --> 00:19:05.210
- DAVID: NO.
00:19:05.210 --> 00:19:06.060
- BIL: TELL US THAT STORY.
00:19:06.060 --> 00:19:06.260
THIS IS PRETTY REMARKABLE.
00:19:06.260 --> 00:19:07.150
- DAVID: YOU KNOW, MY DAD,
00:19:07.150 --> 00:19:08.050
ALMOST 13 YEARS AGO NOW, WAS
00:19:08.050 --> 00:19:08.270
THIS PILOT AND WORSHIP LEADER.
00:19:08.270 --> 00:19:11.140
AND, A CHURCH OF ABOUT 200
00:19:11.140 --> 00:19:12.090
PEOPLE.
00:19:12.090 --> 00:19:13.060
AND, HE WOULD JUST-- HE WADN'T
00:19:13.060 --> 00:19:15.020
FEELING GOOD, SO WE TOOK HIM TO
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THE HOSPITAL, CHECKED HIM ALL
00:19:16.010 --> 00:19:17.010
OUT.
00:19:17.010 --> 00:19:17.150
AND WITHIN SIX WEEKS, HE DIED
00:19:17.150 --> 00:19:18.090
OF MELANOMA SKIN CANCER AT 56.
00:19:18.090 --> 00:19:19.230
- BIL: MMH...
00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:21.040
- DAVID: AND IT WAS A KICKER,
00:19:21.040 --> 00:19:22.170
YOU KNOW?
00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:23.050
'CAUSE I BASICALLY SAW MY DAD
00:19:23.050 --> 00:19:24.160
AT THE HOSPITAL ON SATURDAY,
00:19:24.260 --> 00:19:27.260
HE PASSED AWAY,
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HAD TO START PASTORING
00:19:28.130 --> 00:19:29.070
THE CHURCH ON SUNDAY, DID HIS
00:19:29.070 --> 00:19:30.000
FUNERAL ON MONDAY, AND THEN
00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:30.210
THEY HAD A MID-WEEK ON TUESDAY.
00:19:30.210 --> 00:19:31.260
AND WE STARTED GROWING EVER
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SINCE THEN.
00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:33.210
BUT IT WAS A REALLY-- A TIME OF
00:19:33.210 --> 00:19:35.190
PAIN, YOU KNOW?
00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:36.040
- JAY: WOW.
00:19:36.040 --> 00:19:38.130
- DAVID: IT WAS SOMETHING
00:19:38.130 --> 00:19:39.030
THAT--
00:19:39.030 --> 00:19:39.190
IT WAS LIKE A NIGHTMARE.
00:19:39.190 --> 00:19:40.210
I MEAN, YOU EVER HAVE SOMETHING
00:19:40.210 --> 00:19:41.130
HAPPENED SO BAD THAT YOU'RE
00:19:41.130 --> 00:19:42.030
LIKE, "OH, MY GOSH, I WISH I
00:19:42.030 --> 00:19:42.290
WAS SLEEPING SO I COULD WAKE UP
00:19:42.290 --> 00:19:43.210
AND THIS IS REALLY NOT TRUE"?
00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:44.120
BUT IT REALLY WAS TRUE.
00:19:44.120 --> 00:19:46.050
BUT, WHAT IS NEAT -- AND I LOVE
00:19:46.050 --> 00:19:47.070
IT ABOUT ALL YA'LLS STORY AND
00:19:47.070 --> 00:19:48.240
MINE AND YOURS, AS WELL -- IS
00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:49.280
THAT WHAT THE DEVIL MEANT FOR
00:19:49.280 --> 00:19:51.220
EVIL, GOD ALWAYS TURNS IT
00:19:51.220 --> 00:19:53.020
AROUND FOR YOUR GOOD.
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- DAVID: AND SOME OF THE WORST
00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:57.070
TRAGEDY IN YOUR LIFE ACTUALLY
00:19:57.070 --> 00:19:57.280
BRING THE MOST TRIUMPH IN YOUR
00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:58.190
LIFE.
00:19:58.190 --> 00:19:58.280
AND SO, WHAT DOESN'T KILL YOU
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MAKES YOU STRONGER.
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SO, OBVIOUSLY, THE CHURCH
00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:01.130
STARTED GROWING LIKE CRAZY AND
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WE WENT ON TELEVISION.
00:20:02.190 --> 00:20:04.080
AND, I KINDA TOOK ON SOME OF MY
00:20:04.080 --> 00:20:05.280
DAD'S WAYS.
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HE PREACHED-- HE WAS A PREACHER
00:20:06.210 --> 00:20:07.210
THAT KINDA PREACHES SOMETIMES A
00:20:07.210 --> 00:20:08.210
LOT ABOUT SIN AND DIDN'T
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HE'D BE LIKE: (IMPERSONATES
00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:12.190
THROATY, DRAMATIC STYLE) "I'M
00:20:12.190 --> 00:20:13.100
TELLIN' YA...RIGHT NOW...YOU'RE
00:20:13.100 --> 00:20:14.020
GONNA DIE...AND GO TO HELL!
00:20:14.020 --> 00:20:14.220
[LAUGHTER]
00:20:14.220 --> 00:20:15.030
AND THE TRUCK'S GONNA HIT YA!
00:20:15.030 --> 00:20:16.040
AND YOU'RE GONNA WAKE UP!"
00:20:16.040 --> 00:20:17.020
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LIKE, "WHOA!"
00:20:17.020 --> 00:20:17.290
[LAUGHTER]
00:20:17.290 --> 00:20:19.010
SO, SOMETIMES, WHEN I FIRST
00:20:19.010 --> 00:20:19.210
STARTED PREACHING, PROBABLY
00:20:19.210 --> 00:20:20.110
LIKE JONATHAN, YOU KNOW, ALL
00:20:20.110 --> 00:20:21.010
YOU SAW WAS YOUR DAD, SO YOU
00:20:21.010 --> 00:20:22.030
KINDA START CHANNELING THEM AT
00:20:22.030 --> 00:20:23.000
THE WEAK MOMENTS, YOU KNOW?
00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:25.090
AND SO, I'M UP THERE AND I'M
00:20:25.090 --> 00:20:25.290
LIKE, "IF YOU DIE"--
00:20:25.290 --> 00:20:26.150
YOU KNOW?
00:20:26.150 --> 00:20:27.190
OR, MY DAD, ONE OF HIS LINES
00:20:27.190 --> 00:20:28.160
WAS, "I'D RATHER YOU GO TO HELL
00:20:28.160 --> 00:20:29.210
FROM A BARSTOOL THAN HELL FROM
00:20:29.210 --> 00:20:30.140
A CHURCH!"
00:20:30.140 --> 00:20:31.200
AND THEN, I HEARD THIS STILL,
00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:32.110
SMALL VOICE AND IT SAID: I
00:20:32.110 --> 00:20:33.230
WOULDN'T.
00:20:33.230 --> 00:20:35.240
AND I'M LIKE, WHOA...
00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:36.200
AND THIS IS GOD SPEAKING TO ME,
00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.240
THE SAME ONE THAT'S TALKING TO
00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:39.150
YOU SOMETIMES AND SAYS--
00:20:39.150 --> 00:20:40.070
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK ME, "HOW
00:20:40.070 --> 00:20:41.050
DO YOU HEAR GOD, HOW DO YOU
00:20:41.050 --> 00:20:41.250
KNOW IT'S GOD?"
00:20:41.250 --> 00:20:42.260
HE SAYS: YOU HAVEN'T PRAYED
00:20:42.260 --> 00:20:43.280
TODAY.
00:20:43.280 --> 00:20:45.000
NOT IN A CONDEMNING WAY BUT IN
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:45.210
A LOVING WAY.
00:20:45.210 --> 00:20:46.270
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO CHURCH IN A
00:20:46.270 --> 00:20:47.190
WHILE...
00:20:47.190 --> 00:20:47.290
YOU'RE NOT--
00:20:47.290 --> 00:20:49.110
IT'S NOT THE DEVIL TELLING YOU,
00:20:49.110 --> 00:20:50.030
"YOU HAVEN'T BEEN
00:20:50.030 --> 00:20:50.180
TO CHURCH IN A WHILE."
00:20:50.180 --> 00:20:51.050
- BIL: MMH.
00:20:51.050 --> 00:20:51.220
- DAVID: THAT'S GOD.
00:20:51.220 --> 00:20:52.270
AND SO, I HEARD THAT STILL,
00:20:52.270 --> 00:20:53.170
SMALL VOICE ON THE INSIDE OF
00:20:53.170 --> 00:20:54.190
ME, SO I STARTED POINTING THE
00:20:54.190 --> 00:20:55.200
FINGER AT THE CAMERA.
00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:56.180
AND WE WENT ON TELEVISION AND I
00:20:56.180 --> 00:20:57.160
SAID: "I'M NOT HERE POINTING
00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:58.230
THE FINGER TO YOU THIS WAY; I'M
00:20:58.230 --> 00:20:59.220
POINTING IT TO YOU THIS WAY.
00:20:59.220 --> 00:21:00.280
I'M HERE TO PUT A RING ON YOUR
00:21:00.280 --> 00:21:02.060
FINGER, A ROBE ON YOUR BACK.
00:21:02.060 --> 00:21:03.010
I'M NOT MAD AT YOU BUT I'M MAD
00:21:03.010 --> 00:21:03.260
ABOUT YOU."
00:21:03.260 --> 00:21:06.200
AND THAT'S WHEN THE CHURCH GREW
00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:07.120
TO ALMOST 20.000 PEOPLE THROUGH
00:21:07.120 --> 00:21:08.040
THAT THEORY BECAUSE A LOT OF
00:21:08.040 --> 00:21:08.240
PEOPLE ARE HURTING.
00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:10.070
I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S HURTING.
00:21:10.070 --> 00:21:10.270
- BIL: YEAH.
00:21:10.270 --> 00:21:11.100
- DAVID: AND I LOVE-- IT'S ONE
00:21:11.100 --> 00:21:12.150
OF THE REASONS WHY I LOVE MATT
00:21:12.150 --> 00:21:13.160
AND LAURIE AND TBN IS BECAUSE
00:21:13.160 --> 00:21:14.290
THEY PUT REGULAR FOLKS LIKE US
00:21:14.290 --> 00:21:17.030
ON TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE
00:21:17.030 --> 00:21:18.190
NOT PERFECT, WE ARE FORGIVEN.
00:21:18.190 --> 00:21:20.030
AND IF THERE WAS, LIKE, A NAME
00:21:20.030 --> 00:21:22.040
BRAND FOR US RIGHT NOW, IT'D BE
00:21:23.230 --> 00:21:26.230
WHOLE FOODS BECAUSE IT'S
00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:27.110
ORGANIC, IT IS REAL, IT'S RAW.
00:21:27.110 --> 00:21:28.090
[APPLAUSE]
00:21:28.090 --> 00:21:28.250
- JAY: YEAH.
00:21:28.250 --> 00:21:29.250
- DAVID: IT'S DIRTY, IT AIN'T
00:21:29.250 --> 00:21:30.160
CLEAN, BUT IT'S ALL JESUS.
00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:31.060
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:21:31.060 --> 00:21:31.240
- DAVID: AND SO, UH, YEAH, SO
00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:32.180
THAT WAS--
00:21:32.180 --> 00:21:33.020
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:21:33.020 --> 00:21:33.170
[APPLAUSE]
00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:34.020
LOVE IT...LOVE IT, LOVE IT.
00:21:34.020 --> 00:21:34.250
YOU KNOW, JAY, SO YOU-- SO,
00:21:34.250 --> 00:21:35.200
JAY, I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO
00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:36.200
YOUR STORY.
00:21:36.230 --> 00:21:39.230
- JAY: MM-HMM.
00:21:39.230 --> 00:21:41.030
- BIL: YOU GO AND YOU PLANT
00:21:41.030 --> 00:21:42.000
THIS CHURCH IN L.A.
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:42.290
HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU THINK,
00:21:42.290 --> 00:21:44.130
"YOU KNOW, I JUST KICKED
00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:45.090
A 12-YEAR HABIT OF COCAINE; I'M
00:21:45.090 --> 00:21:46.070
GONNA GO PLANT A CHURCH NOW"?
00:21:46.070 --> 00:21:48.120
- JAY: WELL, THERE WAS A--
00:21:48.120 --> 00:21:49.040
- BIL: BACK WHERE I FELL INTO
00:21:49.040 --> 00:21:49.280
IT!
00:21:49.280 --> 00:21:50.230
- JAY: YEAH.
00:21:50.230 --> 00:21:51.240
WELL, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF
00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.150
TIME BETWEEN GIVING MY LIFE TO
00:21:53.150 --> 00:21:54.060
JESUS AND PLANTING THE CHURCH.
00:21:54.060 --> 00:21:56.010
[LAUGHTER]
00:21:56.010 --> 00:21:56.160
YOU KNOW, BUT GOD DID-- YOU
00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:57.180
KNOW, HERE'S AN INTERESTING
00:21:57.180 --> 00:21:58.200
THING.
00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.040
'CAUSE MY FIRST-- 'CAUSE I WAS
00:22:00.040 --> 00:22:00.250
BACK IN ALABAMA WHEN I GAVE MY
00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:01.160
LIFE TO JESUS.
00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:02.190
- BIL: GOOD.
00:22:02.190 --> 00:22:03.070
- JAY: AND, MY EXPOSURE TO
00:22:03.070 --> 00:22:04.130
CHRISTIANITY AND WHAT WAS
00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:05.150
HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD
00:22:05.150 --> 00:22:06.250
OUTSIDE OF THAT LITTLE
00:22:06.250 --> 00:22:08.130
COMMUNITY WHERE I WAS WAS TBN.
00:22:08.130 --> 00:22:10.200
- BIL: WOW...
00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:11.220
- JAY: AND I WOULD WATCH-- I
00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:12.270
WOULD WATCH SOME OF THE SHOWS
00:22:12.270 --> 00:22:13.260
ON TBN, HEAR GUYS PREACH.
00:22:13.260 --> 00:22:15.000
AND I, LITERALLY -- THIS IS NO
00:22:15.040 --> 00:22:18.040
JOKE -- I WOULD LAY IN MY
00:22:18.040 --> 00:22:18.230
LIVING-ROOM FLOOR -- NOBODY WAS
00:22:18.230 --> 00:22:19.270
IN MY HOUSE -- I WOULD LAY
00:22:19.270 --> 00:22:21.090
THERE AND I WOULD CRY AND I
00:22:21.090 --> 00:22:22.140
WOULD BEG GOD TO USE ME.
00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:24.260
AND ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS LEAD
00:22:24.260 --> 00:22:25.230
PEOPLE INTO HIS PRESENCE.
00:22:25.230 --> 00:22:27.250
'CAUSE I FELT LIKE IF I
00:22:27.250 --> 00:22:28.270
COULD GET PEOPLE INTO HIS
00:22:28.270 --> 00:22:30.260
PRESENCE, HIS PRESENCE WOULD DO
00:22:30.260 --> 00:22:32.040
WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR THE PEOPLE.
00:22:32.040 --> 00:22:34.060
AND I WOULD CRY AND GOD BEGAN
00:22:34.060 --> 00:22:36.030
TO PUT THAT DREAM IN MY HEART
00:22:36.030 --> 00:22:37.290
ABOUT WHAT I'M DOING NOW.
00:22:37.290 --> 00:22:39.150
BUT THERE WAS A PROCESS IN
00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:42.060
AND I REALIZE THAT HAD GOD
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.110
TAKEN ME FROM THE MOMENT THAT I
00:22:46.110 --> 00:22:47.030
CRIED ON THE FLOOR AND PUT ME
00:22:47.030 --> 00:22:48.190
WHERE I AM NOW, IT WOULD HAVE
00:22:48.190 --> 00:22:51.020
DESTROYED ME.
00:22:51.020 --> 00:22:52.160
AND IT'S AMAZING WHAT ONE
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:53.050
PERSON CAN USE AND IT BE A
00:22:53.050 --> 00:22:54.140
BLESSING AND ANOTHER PERSON
00:22:54.140 --> 00:22:56.180
HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AND
00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:58.280
- BIL: MMH.
00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:04.260
- JAY: AND SO, HAD GOD TAKEN
00:23:04.260 --> 00:23:06.160
ME WHERE I WAS TO WHERE I AM
00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:07.070
RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE PROCESS,
00:23:07.070 --> 00:23:08.110
I WOULDN'TA HAD THE STRENGTH TO
00:23:08.110 --> 00:23:09.030
BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE WEIGHT
00:23:09.030 --> 00:23:09.230
OF WHAT COMES ALONG WITH WHAT
00:23:09.230 --> 00:23:10.140
I'M DOING NOW.
00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:11.200
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:12.190
- JAY: SO...SO, WE JUST PACKED
00:23:12.190 --> 00:23:14.010
UP EVERYTHING.
00:23:14.010 --> 00:23:16.270
YOU KNOW, WE FELT LIKE GOD SAID
00:23:16.270 --> 00:23:17.190
GO, WE HAD A WORD FROM HIM, AND
00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:18.110
WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE
00:23:18.110 --> 00:23:19.000
GOING TO DO IT, NECESSARILY.
00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.100
WE STARTED WITH A HANDFUL
00:23:21.100 --> 00:23:22.160
OF BROKEN PEOPLE IN A
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:23.130
COMMUNITY CENTER ABOUT TWO
00:23:23.130 --> 00:23:25.140
BLOCKS OFF THE BEACH IN
00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:26.080
HUNTINGTON BEACH.
00:23:26.080 --> 00:23:27.100
AND IT REALLY LOOKED MORE LIKE
00:23:27.100 --> 00:23:28.240
AN AA GROUP IN THE NAME OF
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.160
JESUS, YOU KNOW?
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:31.210
THERE WERE GUYS-- I AM NOT
00:23:31.210 --> 00:23:33.060
KIDDING.
00:23:33.060 --> 00:23:34.110
THERE WERE GUYS WITH THEIR
00:23:34.110 --> 00:23:35.060
SUNGLASSES ON, NO SHOES,
00:23:35.060 --> 00:23:36.090
SHORTS.
00:23:36.090 --> 00:23:39.050
AND, WE'D GET TO THE END OF A
00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:40.280
SONG AND THE WORSHIP PART AND
00:23:40.280 --> 00:23:42.080
PEOPLE WOULD CLAP, BUT THEY
00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:42.280
WEREN'T CLAPPING FOR JESUS,
00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:43.190
"OH, WOW, JESUS, YOU'RE GREAT!"
00:23:43.190 --> 00:23:44.150
THEY WERE CLAPPING LIKE, "OH,
00:23:45.210 --> 00:23:48.210
THOSE MUSICIANS ARE OKAY."
00:23:48.210 --> 00:23:50.230
AND, YOU KNOW, SO, I'D HAVE TO
00:23:50.230 --> 00:23:51.140
GET ON THE FRONT ROW AND JUST--
00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:52.060
I WOULDN'T LOOK AT PEOPLE AND
00:23:52.060 --> 00:23:52.270
I'D WORSHIP GOD.
00:23:52.270 --> 00:23:54.210
AND SO, THAT'S WHAT WE STARTED.
00:23:54.210 --> 00:23:55.130
WE STARTED IN COMMUNITY CENTER.
00:23:55.130 --> 00:23:56.050
FIRST FIVE YEARS, WE WERE IN
00:23:56.050 --> 00:23:58.170
SIX DIFFERENT LOCATIONS --
00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.040
SETTIN' UP, TEARIN' DOWN.
00:24:00.040 --> 00:24:01.180
ALL MY FRIENDS THAT WERE IN
00:24:01.180 --> 00:24:03.060
MINISTRY EAST OF THE ROCKIES --
00:24:03.060 --> 00:24:04.080
THEY THOUGHT I WAS IN SIN.
00:24:04.080 --> 00:24:05.140
[LAUGHTER]
00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:06.040
'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
00:24:06.040 --> 00:24:07.040
WHY I COULDN'T HAVE A BUILDING.
00:24:07.040 --> 00:24:08.090
[LAUGHTER]
00:24:08.090 --> 00:24:08.250
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SHOULD
00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:09.250
BE ABLE TO GO AND GET A
00:24:09.250 --> 00:24:10.280
BUILDING ANYWHERE.
00:24:10.280 --> 00:24:11.150
- BIL: RIGHT.
00:24:11.150 --> 00:24:12.010
- JAY: AND IT DOESN'T WORK
00:24:12.010 --> 00:24:12.210
THAT--
00:24:12.210 --> 00:24:13.000
- BIL: THEY'RE SO CHEAP IN
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:13.200
L.A., COME ON, YOU KNOW?
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:14.080
- JAY: YEAH, WELL, IT'S CHEAP,
00:24:14.080 --> 00:24:15.000
AND, LIKE, ANYBODY'S JUST GON--
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:15.220
THE CITY'S-- YOU CAN'T JUST GO
00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:16.130
HAVE CHURCH ANYWHERE.
00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:18.030
YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH THIS LONG
00:24:18.030 --> 00:24:18.270
PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL TO USE
00:24:18.270 --> 00:24:20.140
ANYTHING.
00:24:20.140 --> 00:24:22.070
AND SO, UH...SO IT TOOK US SIX
00:24:23.070 --> 00:24:26.070
YEARS TO FINALLY GET OUR FIRST
00:24:26.070 --> 00:24:26.290
BUILDING.
00:24:26.290 --> 00:24:29.050
- BIL: WOW...
00:24:29.050 --> 00:24:29.210
- JAY: AND THEN, WE GREW
00:24:29.210 --> 00:24:30.100
LITTLE BY LITTLE IN THAT FIRST
00:24:30.100 --> 00:24:31.010
FIVE YEARS.
00:24:31.010 --> 00:24:31.160
BUT WHEN WE GOT THERE, THE FIRST
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.180
BUILDING, THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN
00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:35.250
TO EXPERIENCE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH.
00:24:35.250 --> 00:24:36.290
WE GREW BY 500% IN THE FIRST
00:24:36.290 --> 00:24:39.070
TWO YEARS OF BEING IN THAT
00:24:39.070 --> 00:24:40.060
BUILDING.
00:24:40.060 --> 00:24:41.040
- BIL: WOW.
00:24:41.040 --> 00:24:42.060
- JAY: WE ENDED UP HAVING
00:24:42.060 --> 00:24:42.250
EIGHT SERVICES A WEEK IN THAT
00:24:42.250 --> 00:24:43.160
BUILDING.
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.160
AND THEN, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.110
WE WERE GONNA DO THEN.
00:24:46.110 --> 00:24:47.110
EIGHT SERVICES -- THAT'S A LOT
00:24:47.110 --> 00:24:48.110
OF SERVICES.
00:24:48.110 --> 00:24:49.150
THEN, WE STARTED AT ANOTHER
00:24:49.150 --> 00:24:50.200
SITE IN DOWNTOWN L.A.
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.110
AND SO, WHAT HAPPENED WAS THESE
00:24:53.170 --> 00:24:56.170
PEOPLE CAME AND KNOCKED ON THE
00:24:56.170 --> 00:24:58.080
DOOR AND SAID, "HEY, YOU WANNA
00:24:58.080 --> 00:24:59.060
SELL YOUR BUILDING?"
00:24:59.060 --> 00:25:00.080
I SAID, "NAH, I DON'T WANNA
00:25:00.080 --> 00:25:00.280
SELL IT."
00:25:00.280 --> 00:25:01.230
IT WAS ALMOST PAID OFF.
00:25:01.230 --> 00:25:03.020
AND THEY SAID, "WELL, WE'LL PAY
00:25:03.020 --> 00:25:04.030
CASH."
00:25:04.030 --> 00:25:04.170
AND I SAID, "WELL, I HAVE TO
00:25:04.170 --> 00:25:05.120
PRAY ABOUT IT."
00:25:05.120 --> 00:25:06.240
AND I WASN'T PRAYING WHETHER
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.140
I'D SELL IT; I HAD TO PRAY
00:25:07.140 --> 00:25:08.110
ABOUT HOW MUCH.
00:25:08.110 --> 00:25:08.250
[LAUGHTER]
00:25:08.250 --> 00:25:10.160
THAT'S KINDA SUPPOSED TO BE A
00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:11.070
JOKE.
00:25:11.070 --> 00:25:11.260
[LAUGHTER]
00:25:11.260 --> 00:25:12.070
YOU KNOW.
00:25:12.070 --> 00:25:13.090
BUT AFTER PRAYER AND PROCESSING
00:25:13.090 --> 00:25:14.090
IT--
00:25:14.090 --> 00:25:15.010
- BIL: YEAH.
00:25:15.010 --> 00:25:15.150
- JAY: --AND STUFF, I CAME
00:25:15.150 --> 00:25:16.050
BACK TO THOSE GUYS.
00:25:16.050 --> 00:25:17.060
AND I SAID: "LOOK, GUYS -- TO
00:25:17.060 --> 00:25:17.270
ME THIS ISN'T ABOUT MONEY.
00:25:17.270 --> 00:25:19.080
IT'S ABOUT LEADING A CHURCH AND
00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:20.230
REACHING A COMMUNITY.
00:25:20.230 --> 00:25:21.120
SO, FOR ME TO SELL THIS
00:25:21.120 --> 00:25:22.060
BUILDING, IT HAS TO MAKE
00:25:22.060 --> 00:25:22.290
SENSE."
00:25:22.290 --> 00:25:24.260
"IT HAS TO MAKE SENSE
00:25:24.260 --> 00:25:25.150
FOR US AS A CHURCH.
00:25:25.150 --> 00:25:26.280
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A
00:25:26.280 --> 00:25:28.160
STEP FORWARD AND IT LOOK RIGHT
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:30.110
AND SEEM RIGHT AND BE RIGHT."
00:25:30.110 --> 00:25:31.220
AND SO, WHAT HAPPENED WAS
00:25:31.220 --> 00:25:33.100
WITHIN TWO DAYS THIS OTHER
00:25:33.100 --> 00:25:35.110
BUILDING CAME, THE REALTOR FROM
00:25:35.110 --> 00:25:36.200
IT, SAID: "MAN, YOU POPPED INTO
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.010
MY MIND.
00:25:38.010 --> 00:25:39.030
ARE YOU LOOKIN' FOR A
00:25:39.030 --> 00:25:40.020
BUILDING?"
00:25:40.020 --> 00:25:42.040
I SAID, "WELL, YEAH, I AM!"
00:25:42.040 --> 00:25:42.240
- BIL: WOW.
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:43.190
- JAY: AND, UH-- AND THAT WAS
00:25:43.190 --> 00:25:45.290
WHAT I TOLD THOSE OTHER GUYS.
00:25:45.290 --> 00:25:46.200
I SAID, "I'LL SELL YOU THE
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:47.090
BUILDING."
00:25:47.090 --> 00:25:47.290
I SAID, "SHOW ME THE MONEY."
00:25:47.290 --> 00:25:48.220
THEY SHOWED ME THE MONEY, THEY
00:25:48.220 --> 00:25:49.280
PUT $100.000 IN ESCROW.
00:25:49.280 --> 00:25:52.250
AND THEN, I SAID, "IT'S ALL
00:25:52.250 --> 00:25:53.150
CONTINGENT ON ME FINDING
00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:54.030
ANOTHER PLACE."
00:25:54.030 --> 00:25:54.180
AND THEN, WITHIN TWO DAYS,
00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:56.170
THERE WAS ANOTHER PLACE THAT
00:25:56.170 --> 00:25:57.200
CAME KNOCKED ON OUR DOOR.
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:58.130
AND NOW, WE'RE-- THAT'S WHERE
00:25:58.130 --> 00:25:59.170
OUR MAIN LOCATION IS THERE IN
00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:01.050
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
00:26:01.050 --> 00:26:02.080
- BIL: WOW...
00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:04.060
- JAY: ANYWAY, THAT'S KIND OF
00:26:04.060 --> 00:26:04.270
THE--
00:26:04.270 --> 00:26:05.120
- BIL: YEAH.
00:26:05.120 --> 00:26:05.260
- JAY: --THE OVERVIEW OF HOW I
00:26:05.260 --> 00:26:07.070
WENT FROM WHERE I WAS AT TO
00:26:07.070 --> 00:26:08.210
WHERE I AM.
00:26:08.210 --> 00:26:10.060
- BIL: SURE, SURE.
00:26:10.060 --> 00:26:10.220
- JAY: AND, OF COURSE, IT'S
00:26:10.220 --> 00:26:11.160
NEVER AS EASY AS WHAT IT
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:12.130
SOUNDS.
00:26:12.130 --> 00:26:13.000
- BIL: RIGHT, RIGHT.
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:13.180
- JAY: YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT
00:26:13.180 --> 00:26:14.100
OF-- 'CAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES
00:26:14.100 --> 00:26:15.080
WE MAKE THINGS SOMETIMES --
00:26:15.080 --> 00:26:15.280
SPECIALLY AS PREACHERS -- WE
00:26:15.280 --> 00:26:17.020
MAKE THINGS SOUND EASIER THAN
00:26:17.020 --> 00:26:18.140
IT CAN BE.
00:26:18.150 --> 00:26:21.150
AND I THINK GOD DOES THIS,
00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:23.110
AS WELL.
00:26:23.110 --> 00:26:24.270
I THINK GOD LETS US--
00:26:24.270 --> 00:26:25.210
'CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A DREAM,
00:26:25.210 --> 00:26:26.230
IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU CAN FEEL
00:26:26.230 --> 00:26:27.250
YOURSELF IN THAT DESTINATION.
00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:29.160
YOU CAN FEEL YOURSELF IN THAT
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:30.130
PLACE.
00:26:30.130 --> 00:26:31.090
'CAUSE THERE'S MOTIONS THAT
00:26:31.090 --> 00:26:32.160
COME WITH IT.
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.050
- BIL: YEAH.
00:26:33.050 --> 00:26:33.200
- JAY: AND THOSE MOTIONS ARE
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.110
KINDA-- THEY'RE PULLING YOU IN
00:26:34.110 --> 00:26:35.110
TO WHERE GOD WANTS TO TAKE YOU.
00:26:35.110 --> 00:26:37.100
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:26:37.100 --> 00:26:38.200
- JAY: AND GOD DOESN'T ALWAYS
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:39.180
SHOW US EVERYTHING THAT GOES
00:26:39.180 --> 00:26:41.250
ALONG WITH THE JOURNEY BECAUSE
00:26:41.250 --> 00:26:43.010
SOMETIMES IT'S-- IT'S HARD!
00:26:43.010 --> 00:26:45.200
- BIL: YEAH.
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.180
- JAY: YOU KNOW?
00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:47.160
IT'S-- YOU GOTTA PUSH THROUGH.
00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:48.220
THERE'S SETBACKS.
00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:51.020
AND, IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S THIS
00:26:51.110 --> 00:26:54.110
STATIC STRATEGY.
00:26:54.110 --> 00:26:55.050
YOU KNOW, YOU LAY DOWN YOUR
00:26:55.050 --> 00:26:56.040
STRATEGY AND THIS IS OUR GOAL
00:26:56.040 --> 00:26:57.080
AND HERE'S EVERY STEP.
00:26:57.080 --> 00:26:59.030
- BIL: YEAH.
00:26:59.030 --> 00:26:59.210
- JAY: IT'S FLUID.
00:26:59.210 --> 00:27:01.010
- BIL: YEAH.
00:27:01.010 --> 00:27:01.140
- JAY: YOU KNOW?
00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:02.240
YOU'RE MOVING, THERE'S LIVING
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.150
PEOPLE, EVERYTHING'S LIVING,
00:27:03.150 --> 00:27:04.180
EVERYTHING'S MOVING.
00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:05.240
YOU'VE GOT A REAL ENEMY AND YOU
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:06.230
GOT PEOPLE THAT MAKE CRAZY
00:27:06.230 --> 00:27:08.100
AND YOU GOT ALL THESE THINGS
00:27:11.020 --> 00:27:11.290
THAT'S MOVIN' AROUND AND HAVE
00:27:11.290 --> 00:27:14.090
TO NAVIGATE THROUGH ALL THAT
00:27:14.090 --> 00:27:15.130
WHILE STAYING FOCUSED ON THE
00:27:15.130 --> 00:27:16.290
PLACE THAT GOD REALLY WANTS TO
00:27:16.290 --> 00:27:18.170
TAKE YOU.
00:27:18.170 --> 00:27:19.180
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:27:19.180 --> 00:27:20.080
- JAY: AND I THINK A LOT OF
00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:20.280
PEOPLE-- LOT OF PEOPLE NEVER
00:27:20.280 --> 00:27:21.180
REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL
00:27:21.180 --> 00:27:23.130
THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO PUT IN
00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:25.050
THE HARD WORK TO MINE OUT WHAT
00:27:25.050 --> 00:27:28.020
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:27:31.020 --> 00:27:31.180
- JAY: THE WORD "MEDIOCRE"
00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:32.080
COMES FROM A GREEK-LATIN WORD
00:27:32.080 --> 00:27:32.290
THAT MEANS HALFWAY UP A STONY
00:27:32.290 --> 00:27:33.230
MOUNTAIN.
00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:34.190
- BIL: WOW.
00:27:34.190 --> 00:27:36.030
- JAY: AND YOU THINK ABOUT
00:27:36.030 --> 00:27:36.230
THAT -- EVERYBODY AT THE FOOT
00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:38.160
OF THE MOUNTAIN, WHEN THEY GET
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.070
THE INVITATION TO GO TO THE TOP
00:27:39.070 --> 00:27:39.290
OF THE MOUNTAIN, THEY'RE LIKE,
00:27:39.290 --> 00:27:41.060
"YEAH, I WANNA BE THERE.
00:27:41.060 --> 00:27:42.140
I WANNA DO THAT,
00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:43.010
I WANNA GO THERE!"
00:27:43.010 --> 00:27:43.180
WHATEVER-- FOR US, IT'S BEING
00:27:43.180 --> 00:27:44.230
PREACHERS AND BUILDING CHURCHES
00:27:44.230 --> 00:27:45.160
AND REACHING OUR COMMUNITY.
00:27:49.130 --> 00:27:52.130
BUT GOD'S CALLED EVERYBODY.
00:27:52.130 --> 00:27:53.030
HE'S CALLED THE ENTERTAINER,
00:27:53.030 --> 00:27:53.280
HE'S CALLED THE ATHLETE,
00:27:53.280 --> 00:27:55.010
HE'S CALLED THE BUSINESSMAN.
00:27:55.010 --> 00:27:55.210
I MEAN, GOD HAS A DREAM FOR
00:27:55.210 --> 00:27:56.250
EVERY ONE OF US.
00:27:56.250 --> 00:27:57.160
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:58.020
- JAY: AND SO, WE START--
00:27:58.020 --> 00:27:59.010
WE'RE HERE AT THE BOTTOM, WE
00:27:59.010 --> 00:28:00.170
LOOK AT THE TOP, AND WE SAY,
00:28:00.170 --> 00:28:01.070
"YEAH, I WANNA BE THERE."
00:28:01.070 --> 00:28:01.260
BUT THEN WHEN WE START THE
00:28:01.260 --> 00:28:02.270
JOURNEY OF CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN,
00:28:02.270 --> 00:28:03.190
YOU'RE CLIMBING-- IT'S
00:28:03.190 --> 00:28:04.290
DESCRIBED LIKE CRIMING THESE
00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:07.120
JAGGED ROCKS.
00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:11.140
IT'S NOT EASY.
00:28:11.140 --> 00:28:12.020
IT'S DIFFICULT.
00:28:12.020 --> 00:28:12.160
SO, YOU GET HALFWAY THERE,
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:13.050
YOU'RE NOT WHERE YOU USED TO
00:28:13.050 --> 00:28:13.280
BE...
00:28:13.280 --> 00:28:14.120
- BIL: YEAH.
00:28:14.120 --> 00:28:14.250
- JAY: ...BUT YOU'RE NOT WHERE
00:28:14.250 --> 00:28:15.170
YOU CAN BE.
00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:15.290
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:28:15.290 --> 00:28:16.130
- JAY: AND YOU'RE LIKE: OKAY,
00:28:16.130 --> 00:28:17.040
I'M JUST GONNA STOP RIGHT HERE.
00:28:17.040 --> 00:28:17.260
'CAUSE AT LEAST I'M NOT WHERE I
00:28:17.260 --> 00:28:18.180
USED TO BE.
00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:19.000
THIS IS GETTIN' A LITTLE TOUGH.
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:19.230
- BIL: RIGHT.
00:28:19.230 --> 00:28:21.060
- JAY: SO, I'M BETTER THAN
00:28:21.060 --> 00:28:22.010
WHERE I WAS...
00:28:22.010 --> 00:28:22.190
BUT YOU'RE STILL NOT WHERE YOU
00:28:22.190 --> 00:28:24.020
CAN BE.
00:28:24.020 --> 00:28:25.150
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S
00:28:25.150 --> 00:28:26.090
GOOD.
00:28:26.090 --> 00:28:26.220
- JAY: YOU KNOW, WHEN I GET TO
00:28:26.220 --> 00:28:27.230
THE END OF MY LIFE, MAN, I
00:28:27.230 --> 00:28:28.220
DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO BE LEFT
00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:30.070
IN ME.
00:28:30.070 --> 00:28:32.130
I WANT TO HAVE DONE EVERYTHING
00:28:32.130 --> 00:28:33.040
I COULD TO MAXIMIZE MY
00:28:33.150 --> 00:28:36.150
POTENTIAL FOR HIS GLORY.
00:28:36.150 --> 00:28:37.220
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:39.050
- JAY: YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE
00:28:39.050 --> 00:28:40.010
PARABLE OF THE TALENTS.
00:28:40.010 --> 00:28:41.010
TO ONE, HE GAVE ONE; TO
00:28:41.010 --> 00:28:41.260
ANOTHER, TWO; TO ANOTHER, FIVE.
00:28:41.260 --> 00:28:42.180
THE ONE WITH ONE DIDN'T DO
00:28:42.180 --> 00:28:44.180
ANYTHING WITH IT.
00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:45.060
THE OTHER TWO GUYS, THEY WENT
00:28:45.060 --> 00:28:47.090
OUT AND THEY BROUGHT INCREASE.
00:28:47.090 --> 00:28:49.060
AND THEY BROUGHT BACK WHAT WAS
00:28:49.060 --> 00:28:50.290
GIVEN TO THEM WITH INCREASE.
00:28:50.290 --> 00:28:53.050
I THINK GOD EXPECTS ALL OF US
00:28:53.050 --> 00:28:54.090
TO BRING BACK TO HIM WHAT HE'S
00:28:54.090 --> 00:28:56.200
GIVEN US WITH INCREASE.
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:58.280
AND THE ONE THAT DID NOTHING
00:28:58.280 --> 00:29:00.120
WITH WHAT HE WAS GIVEN, GOD
00:29:00.120 --> 00:29:01.250
WASN'T PLEASED WITH.
00:29:01.250 --> 00:29:03.130
BUT HE APPLAUDED THE OTHER TWO
00:29:03.130 --> 00:29:05.080
GUYS.
00:29:05.080 --> 00:29:06.070
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:29:06.070 --> 00:29:06.220
- JAY: YEAH.
00:29:06.220 --> 00:29:07.100
- BIL: YOU KNOW, JONATHAN, LET
00:29:07.100 --> 00:29:08.020
ME ASK YOU THIS: WHEN-- YOU
00:29:08.020 --> 00:29:08.290
KNOW, JAY'S TALKIN' ABOUT, YOU
00:29:08.290 --> 00:29:10.040
KNOW, HITTIN' THE HARD TIMES
00:29:10.040 --> 00:29:11.070
HALFWAY UP THE MOUNTAIN.
00:29:11.070 --> 00:29:12.100
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALL
00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:14.130
EXPERIENCE, AS LEADERS, THESE
00:29:14.130 --> 00:29:15.120
MOMENTS.
00:29:15.120 --> 00:29:16.130
AND IT COULD BE PERSONAL, IT
00:29:16.130 --> 00:29:17.030
COULD BE CHURCH, IT COULD BE,
00:29:17.030 --> 00:29:18.080
WE ALL EXPERIENCE TIMES WHEN
00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:20.280
YOU'RE LIKE: I DIDN'T SEE THAT
00:29:20.280 --> 00:29:22.030
COMIN'.
00:29:22.030 --> 00:29:22.240
WOW...THAT IS NOT WHAT'S
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.120
SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:24.040
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO THIS WAY
00:29:24.040 --> 00:29:25.060
YOU KNOW, WE WERE BANKIN' ON
00:29:27.280 --> 00:29:28.180
THIS AND SOMETHING DIDN'T COME
00:29:28.180 --> 00:29:29.090
THROUGH.
00:29:29.090 --> 00:29:29.190
WHEN DOES IT HAPPEN TO YOU AND
00:29:29.190 --> 00:29:30.120
WHAT DID YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE
00:29:30.120 --> 00:29:31.140
JUST, LIKE, "DREAM'S DONE;
00:29:31.140 --> 00:29:32.220
THIS ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN"?
00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:33.270
- JONATHAN: YEAH, THAT DOESN'T
00:29:33.270 --> 00:29:34.270
HAPPEN THAT OFTEN -- ABOUT
00:29:34.270 --> 00:29:35.160
MAYBE ABOUT ONCE OR TWICE A
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:36.060
WEEK.
00:29:36.060 --> 00:29:37.070
[LAUGHTER]
00:29:37.070 --> 00:29:37.190
IN LIFE AND IN MINISTRY AND
00:29:37.190 --> 00:29:40.160
WHATEVER WE DO, THOSE KINDS OF
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.070
THINGS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
00:29:42.070 --> 00:29:43.260
- BIL: YEAH.
00:29:43.260 --> 00:29:44.090
- JONATHAN: YOU KNOW, THE
00:29:44.090 --> 00:29:45.000
PICTURE THAT JAY WAS JUST
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:45.220
TALKIN' ABOUT, IT'S A PICTURE--
00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:46.180
EVERYBODY LOVES TO TELL THE
00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:47.150
STORY OF NOAH'S ARK, YOU KNOW?
00:29:47.150 --> 00:29:48.060
- BIL: YEAH.
00:29:48.060 --> 00:29:49.020
- JONATHAN: WE LOVE TO TALK
00:29:49.020 --> 00:29:49.220
ABOUT HOW GOD SAVED NOAH AND
00:29:49.220 --> 00:29:50.190
HIS FAMILY.
00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:51.040
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE RAIN
00:29:51.040 --> 00:29:52.170
STARTED COMIN', THEY'RE SAFE
00:29:52.170 --> 00:29:53.100
WITHIN THE ARK.
00:29:53.100 --> 00:29:55.200
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SPEND A
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.120
LOT OF TIME GOING BACK IN THE
00:29:56.120 --> 00:29:57.030
OLD DAYS OF FLANNELGRAPH
00:29:57.030 --> 00:29:58.080
SHOWIN' NOAH BUILDING THE ARK.
00:29:58.080 --> 00:29:59.230
YOU KNOW, THE DECADES AND
00:29:59.230 --> 00:30:01.170
DECADES AND DECADES OF HARD
00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:02.230
WORK OUT IN THE SUN.
00:30:02.230 --> 00:30:04.190
- BIL: MM...THAT'S GOOD.
00:30:04.190 --> 00:30:05.260
- JONATHAN: AND YOU KNOW THAT
00:30:05.260 --> 00:30:06.170
NOAH WAS PROBABLY SITTIN' BACK
00:30:06.170 --> 00:30:07.080
THERE SAYIN': GOD, SERIOUSLY?
00:30:07.080 --> 00:30:08.100
YOU KNOW, CAN WE COME UP WITH A
00:30:08.100 --> 00:30:09.080
BETTER PLAN HERE?
00:30:09.080 --> 00:30:10.200
[LAUGHTER]
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:11.290
AH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO
00:30:11.290 --> 00:30:12.290
QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
00:30:12.290 --> 00:30:13.150
THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME...
00:30:13.150 --> 00:30:14.050
- BIL: YEAH.
00:30:14.050 --> 00:30:14.280
- JONATHAN: ...IN MINISTRY.
00:30:14.280 --> 00:30:15.180
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A WEEK
00:30:15.180 --> 00:30:16.220
THAT GOES BY WHERE SOME
00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:17.210
CHALLENGE DOESN'T HIT YOU
00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:19.020
SQUARELY BETWEEN THE EYES.
00:30:19.020 --> 00:30:20.180
AND YOU SIT BACK AND YOU--
00:30:20.180 --> 00:30:21.270
NUMBER ONE, YOU BEGIN TO
00:30:21.270 --> 00:30:23.050
QUESTION YOURSELF.
00:30:23.050 --> 00:30:24.010
YOU KNOW, YOU BEGIN TO QUESTION
00:30:24.010 --> 00:30:24.240
YOUR JUDGMENT, YOU BEGIN TO
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.020
QUESTION, YOU KNOW: DID I HEAR
00:30:26.020 --> 00:30:27.190
GOD OR WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, MY
00:30:27.190 --> 00:30:28.280
OWN VOICE?
00:30:28.280 --> 00:30:31.010
OR, WAS THAT SOMEONE ELSE'S
00:30:31.010 --> 00:30:31.270
VOICE?
00:30:31.270 --> 00:30:33.170
UH, AM I HEADING IN THE RIGHT
00:30:33.170 --> 00:30:34.160
DIRECTION?
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:35.270
AM I DOING THE RIGHT THINGS
00:30:35.270 --> 00:30:36.240
HERE?
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:37.270
UM...BUT, YOU KNOW, THE
00:30:37.270 --> 00:30:39.120
PICTURE-- YOU KNOW, I GO BACK
00:30:39.120 --> 00:30:40.030
TO THE BOOK OF JOSHUA AND
00:30:40.030 --> 00:30:40.240
JOSHUA 1.
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:42.120
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK
00:30:42.120 --> 00:30:43.060
ABOUT A DISCOURAGED PEOPLE.
00:30:43.060 --> 00:30:43.260
MAN, THERE'S ISRAEL.
00:30:43.260 --> 00:30:44.120
MOSES, YOU KNOW...I MEAN, THE
00:30:44.120 --> 00:30:45.030
GUY.
00:30:45.030 --> 00:30:47.050
THE MOSES, YOU KNOW?
00:30:47.050 --> 00:30:47.250
HE'S GONE...RIGHT?
00:30:47.250 --> 00:30:48.100
HE HAD LED THEM OUT OF EGYPT,
00:30:48.100 --> 00:30:49.010
HE HAD LED THEM THROUGH-- YOU
00:30:49.010 --> 00:30:51.260
KNOW, WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE
00:30:51.260 --> 00:30:53.040
FOOD, ALL OF A SUDDEN, THESE
00:30:53.040 --> 00:30:54.090
THINGS, YOU KNOW, SHOW UP ON
00:30:54.090 --> 00:30:55.230
THE GROUND, THEY EAT, YOU KNOW.
00:30:55.230 --> 00:30:56.150
AND QUAILS ARE DROPPIN' ALL
00:30:56.150 --> 00:30:57.080
AROUND AND THEY'RE EATIN' M--
00:30:57.080 --> 00:30:58.050
I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING WHAT HE
00:30:58.050 --> 00:30:59.120
WAS ABLE TO DO.
00:30:59.120 --> 00:31:00.030
AND NOW, HE'S GONE, AND JOSHUA
00:31:00.030 --> 00:31:01.190
SAID: OKAY, WHAT AM I GONNA DO
00:31:01.190 --> 00:31:02.100
- JONATHAN: I LOVE HOW, IN
00:31:06.090 --> 00:31:08.030
THAT FIRST CHAPTER OF JOSHUA,
00:31:08.030 --> 00:31:08.270
GOD JUST KEEPS SAYING: HEY, BE
00:31:08.270 --> 00:31:10.050
STRONG AND OF GOOD COURAGE!
00:31:10.050 --> 00:31:11.030
[MALE CHUCKLES]
00:31:11.030 --> 00:31:11.250
KEEP GOING, BE STRONG, AND OF
00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:13.060
GOOD COURAGE!
00:31:13.060 --> 00:31:14.150
AND THEN, THAT PASSAGE IN
00:31:14.150 --> 00:31:15.040
THERE: AND EVERYWHERE THE SOLES
00:31:15.040 --> 00:31:15.260
OF YOUR FEET WILL STEP, I WILL
00:31:15.260 --> 00:31:17.050
GIVE TO YOU.
00:31:17.050 --> 00:31:19.290
- JONATHAN: NOW, LISTEN, THE
00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:23.160
FAITHFULNESS IS THIS...
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:24.140
[APPLAUSE]
00:31:24.140 --> 00:31:24.290
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:31:24.290 --> 00:31:27.050
- JONATHAN: THE FAITHFULNESS
00:31:27.050 --> 00:31:27.260
OF GOD...THE FAITHFULNESS OF
00:31:27.260 --> 00:31:29.030
GOD IS NOT FOUND WHEN WE GET TO
00:31:29.030 --> 00:31:29.280
THE MOUNTAINTOP.
00:31:29.280 --> 00:31:31.170
THE FAITHFULNESS OF GOD IS
00:31:31.170 --> 00:31:32.060
BEING WILLING TO TAKE THAT STEP
00:31:32.060 --> 00:31:33.250
FORWARD TO A PLACE WE'VE NEVER
00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:34.290
YET BEEN...
00:31:34.290 --> 00:31:36.190
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:31:36.190 --> 00:31:37.050
- JONATHAN: ...TO ACTUALLY
00:31:37.050 --> 00:31:37.250
MOVE FORWARD.
00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:38.210
AND, YEAH, SOMETIMES, YOU SIT
00:31:38.210 --> 00:31:39.120
THERE AND YOU THINK: MAN, AM I
00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:40.080
IN THE RIGHT PLACE?
00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:41.120
AND, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
00:31:41.120 --> 00:31:42.020
THERE'VE BEEN TIMES I'VE TAKEN
00:31:42.020 --> 00:31:42.260
STEPS WHERE I'VE REALIZED
00:31:42.260 --> 00:31:43.160
PRETTY QUICKLY, HEY, I'M
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:44.160
HEADING IN A DIRECTION HERE
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:45.080
PROBABLY THAT I-- I NEED TO-- I
00:31:45.080 --> 00:31:47.040
NEED TO PRAY ABOUT THIS SOME
00:31:47.040 --> 00:31:47.280
MORE AND SPEND SOME TIME.
00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:49.250
AND I'VE STEPPED BACK MANY
00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:50.140
TIMES.
00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:51.210
AND EVERY TIME THAT I'VE
00:31:51.210 --> 00:31:53.090
STEPPED BACK, IT HAS BEEN A
00:31:53.090 --> 00:31:54.090
CLEAR, UM, ABSOLUTELY, UM, A
00:31:54.280 --> 00:31:57.280
THING FROM GOD, AN AWARENESS OF
00:31:57.280 --> 00:31:59.280
GOD THAT HE'S PUT IN MY HEART
00:31:59.280 --> 00:32:02.070
THAT: THAT WAS YOU, NOT ME.
00:32:02.070 --> 00:32:03.190
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:32:03.190 --> 00:32:04.110
- JONATHAN: AND I DON'T EVER
00:32:04.110 --> 00:32:05.080
WANNA BE WHERE I WANNA BE.
00:32:05.080 --> 00:32:07.080
I JUST WANNA BE WHERE GOD WANTS
00:32:07.080 --> 00:32:08.010
ME TO BE.
00:32:08.010 --> 00:32:08.210
- BIL: YEAH.
00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:09.040
- JONATHAN: UM...YOU KNOW, WE
00:32:09.040 --> 00:32:10.080
TALK ABOUT THE WILL OF GOD.
00:32:10.080 --> 00:32:11.120
IN LIFE, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT,
00:32:11.120 --> 00:32:12.190
YOU KNOW, SUCCESS AND WE TALK
00:32:12.190 --> 00:32:13.260
ABOUT HOW WE DON'T WANNA FAIL
00:32:13.260 --> 00:32:15.120
AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:16.120
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER BACK IN
00:32:16.120 --> 00:32:18.130
HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE MATH
00:32:18.130 --> 00:32:19.030
CLASSES, MAN, YOU KNOW...
00:32:19.030 --> 00:32:20.050
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT
00:32:20.050 --> 00:32:22.100
MATH.
00:32:22.100 --> 00:32:23.210
I DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT WHAT
00:32:23.210 --> 00:32:24.140
MATH WAS, YOU KNOW.
00:32:24.140 --> 00:32:25.070
AND I'D SIT THERE AND NOW MY
00:32:25.070 --> 00:32:26.100
KIDS ARE TAKIN' THIS MATH AND
00:32:26.100 --> 00:32:27.070
THEY COME HOME AND ASK ME FOR
00:32:27.070 --> 00:32:28.040
HELP.
00:32:28.040 --> 00:32:28.240
AND I WAS LIKE, "YOU'RE ON YOUR
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:29.160
OWN, 'CAUSE I DON'T..."
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.100
YOU KNOW.
00:32:30.100 --> 00:32:30.240
[LAUGHTER]
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.200
I CAN DO ADDITION.
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.120
WE GOT THAT.
00:32:32.120 --> 00:32:32.290
BUT THE REST OF IT...YOU KNOW,
00:32:32.290 --> 00:32:34.010
THIS ALGEBRA STUFF -- I'M SURE
00:32:34.010 --> 00:32:35.000
THAT THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THE
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:36.140
ANTICHRIST, I DON'T KNOW, I--
00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:37.240
[LAUGHTER]
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:38.240
BUT...BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.050
PLACE WHERE YOU CANNOT FAIL IS
00:32:40.050 --> 00:32:42.110
WHEN YOU FIND GOD'S WILL FOR
00:32:42.110 --> 00:32:43.260
YOUR LIFE AND YOU'RE RUNNING
00:32:43.260 --> 00:32:45.290
AFTER GOD'S WILL AND YOU'RE IN
00:32:45.290 --> 00:32:47.170
GOD'S WILL.
00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:48.220
IT'S THE ONLY PLACE IN LIFE I
00:32:48.220 --> 00:32:50.120
CAN GUARANTEE YOU YOU WILL
00:32:50.120 --> 00:32:51.140
NEVER FAIL...IS IN GOD'S WILL.
00:32:51.140 --> 00:32:53.210
- JAY: MMH.
00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:54.250
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:55.210
- JAY: THAT'S AWESOME.
00:32:55.210 --> 00:32:57.040
- JONATHAN: BECAUSE IT'S GOD'S
00:32:57.040 --> 00:32:57.260
PLAN AND NOT YOURS AND GOD
00:32:57.260 --> 00:32:58.290
DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES.
00:32:58.290 --> 00:32:59.170
- JAY: MMH.
00:32:59.170 --> 00:33:00.060
- BIL: WOW, THAT'S GREAT.
00:33:00.060 --> 00:33:00.250
[APPLAUSE]
00:33:00.250 --> 00:33:01.110
- JAY: WOW.
00:33:01.110 --> 00:33:02.070
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:33:02.070 --> 00:33:03.060
[APPLAUSE]
00:33:03.060 --> 00:33:04.010
SO...I WANNA...I WANNA SHIFT
00:33:04.010 --> 00:33:05.070
GEARS REAL QUICK.
00:33:05.070 --> 00:33:07.030
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS MONTH
00:33:07.030 --> 00:33:09.100
HERE AT TBN, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL
00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:10.190
ABOUT HEALTH AND HEALING.
00:33:10.190 --> 00:33:12.010
AND THAT IS A BIG THING.
00:33:12.010 --> 00:33:13.160
AND, YOU KNOW, JAY, YOUR STORY
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:14.240
-- WE KIND OF-- WE WENT QUICKLY
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.070
THROUGH IT.
00:33:16.070 --> 00:33:17.160
- JAY: MM-HMM.
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:18.030
- BIL: BUT I WANNA BACK UP A
00:33:18.030 --> 00:33:19.050
LITTLE BIT AND STOP ON
00:33:19.050 --> 00:33:19.240
SOMETHING.
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:20.280
I JUST HAPPEN TO BELIEVE THAT
00:33:20.280 --> 00:33:22.100
THERE'S A LOT OF CHRISTIANS
00:33:22.100 --> 00:33:23.140
THAT DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO
00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:24.070
KNOW ABOUT IT THAT ARE PROBABLY
00:33:24.070 --> 00:33:25.210
STUCK IN ADDICTION RIGHT NOW.
00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:26.120
- JAY: ABSOLUTELY.
00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:27.010
YEAH.
00:33:27.010 --> 00:33:27.180
- BIL: AND IT'S, LIKE, FOR
00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:29.110
SOME REASON, THE CHURCH -- YOU
00:33:29.110 --> 00:33:30.220
CAN GO ANYWHERE ELSE AND
00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:32.110
THEY'LL TELL YOUR PROBLEMS TO
00:33:32.110 --> 00:33:33.030
THE CHURCH.
00:33:33.030 --> 00:33:33.190
IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM THAT GETS
00:33:33.190 --> 00:33:34.130
OUT, WE JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE
00:33:34.130 --> 00:33:35.220
JUST SUPPOSED TO JUST SLIP
00:33:35.220 --> 00:33:36.110
AWAY.
00:33:36.110 --> 00:33:37.080
AND, SOMEHOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED
00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:38.100
TO ALL BE PERFECT AND
00:33:38.100 --> 00:33:38.270
HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER.
00:33:38.270 --> 00:33:40.080
SO, HERE YOU ARE, YOU'RE
00:33:40.080 --> 00:33:41.130
BROKEN, YOU'RE DESPERATE FOR
00:33:41.130 --> 00:33:42.070
ANSWERS AND YOU COME TO JESUS.
00:33:42.070 --> 00:33:44.230
- JAY: YEAH.
00:33:44.230 --> 00:33:45.080
- BIL: WOULD YOU JUST TAKE A
00:33:45.080 --> 00:33:46.020
MOMENT AND PRAY FOR THE PERSON
00:33:46.020 --> 00:33:47.230
WHO JUST-- WHO JUST SAYS, "I
00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:48.280
MEAN, I HAVE JESUS AND I JUST--
00:33:48.280 --> 00:33:50.140
I CAN'T SHAKE THIS -- I DON'T
00:33:50.140 --> 00:33:51.180
KNOW WHAT TO DO, PASTOR"?
00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:52.280
"I FEEL LIKE I CAN'T
00:33:52.280 --> 00:33:54.030
LET GO OF THIS ADDICTION."
00:33:54.030 --> 00:33:56.090
- JAY: ABSOLUTELY.
00:33:56.090 --> 00:33:56.250
WELL, I'D BE HONORED TO PRAY.
00:33:56.250 --> 00:33:58.220
BUT I WANNA ENCOURAGE PEOPLE,
00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:00.070
AS WELL, THAT--
00:34:00.070 --> 00:34:01.020
- BIL: PLEASE.
00:34:01.020 --> 00:34:01.170
- JAY: --YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH
00:34:01.170 --> 00:34:03.150
YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN, IT DOESN'T
00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:05.000
MEAN THAT ALL YOUR PROBLEMS GO
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:06.020
AWAY.
00:34:06.020 --> 00:34:06.230
BUT YOU DO HAVE ONE THAT'S
00:34:06.230 --> 00:34:09.040
COMMITTED TO YOU TO HELP YOU
00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:10.240
WORK THROUGH ALL YOUR PROBLEMS.
00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:12.050
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK OUT THE
00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:14.100
SAME WAY FOR EVERYBODY, BUT GOD
00:34:14.100 --> 00:34:16.000
HAS PROMISED FREEDOM FOR
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.110
EVERYONE.
00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:19.240
THE BIBLE SAYS WHO THE SON SETS
00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:21.080
FREE IS FREE, INDEED.
00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:22.230
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S
00:34:22.230 --> 00:34:24.170
HOLDING YOU, BINDING YOU, THE
00:34:24.170 --> 00:34:26.020
THING THAT THE ENEMY REALLY
00:34:26.020 --> 00:34:27.210
WANTS TO DO IS TO KEEP YOU IN A
00:34:27.210 --> 00:34:28.130
PLACE OF SECRECY WITH WHATEVER
00:34:29.180 --> 00:34:32.180
YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH.
00:34:32.180 --> 00:34:33.250
BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT IF YOU
00:34:33.250 --> 00:34:35.030
EVER BEGIN TO BRING IT OUT IN
00:34:35.030 --> 00:34:35.260
THE LIGHT AND GET REAL AND GET
00:34:35.260 --> 00:34:37.020
HONEST, TAKE THE MASK OFF AND
00:34:37.020 --> 00:34:38.220
EXPOSE THAT THING, THEN IT
00:34:38.220 --> 00:34:41.020
BEGINS TO LOSE ITS POWER.
00:34:41.020 --> 00:34:43.060
AND I WANNA PRAY FOR YOU RIGHT
00:34:43.060 --> 00:34:44.230
NOW THAT GOD'LL GIVE YOU THE
00:34:44.230 --> 00:34:46.120
COURAGE, NUMBER ONE, TO BE
00:34:46.120 --> 00:34:47.250
TRANSPARENT WITH HIM AND TO BE
00:34:47.250 --> 00:34:49.030
TRANSPARENT WITH OTHER PEOPLE
00:34:49.030 --> 00:34:52.010
WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE
00:34:52.010 --> 00:34:53.050
TO HELP YOU.
00:34:53.050 --> 00:34:54.050
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:34:54.050 --> 00:34:54.240
- JAY: NOW, I WANNA PRAY WITH
00:34:54.240 --> 00:34:55.150
YOU.
00:34:55.150 --> 00:34:56.000
AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:56.210
OPEN UP YOUR HEART AND JUST
00:34:56.210 --> 00:34:57.230
RECEIVE THIS RIGHT NOW.
00:34:57.230 --> 00:34:59.130
'CAUSE I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY
00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:00.260
HEART GOD DESIRES TO HELP YOU.
00:35:00.260 --> 00:35:02.070
GOD LOVES YOU.
00:35:02.070 --> 00:35:04.160
HE SENT JESUS INTO THIS WORLD
00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:06.030
NOT JUST TO SAVE YOU, BUT ALSO
00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:07.290
TO TRANSFORM AND CHANGE YOU AND
00:35:07.290 --> 00:35:09.210
FREE YOU.
00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:11.140
AND I WANNA PRAY FOR YOU RIGHT
00:35:11.140 --> 00:35:12.290
NOW.
00:35:12.290 --> 00:35:13.150
FATHER, IN THE NAME OF JESUS,
00:35:13.150 --> 00:35:15.060
I PRAY FOR EVERY PERSON THAT'S
00:35:15.060 --> 00:35:17.010
WATCHING ME THAT IS STRUGGLING
00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:18.170
WITH AN ADDICTION.
00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:19.220
AND I ASK GOD THAT BY YOUR
00:35:19.220 --> 00:35:20.270
SUPERNATURAL POWER THAT YOU
00:35:20.270 --> 00:35:22.070
WOULD TOUCH THEM RIGHT WHERE
00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:23.060
THEY ARE.
00:35:23.060 --> 00:35:24.140
I PRAY THAT THE CHAINS OF THAT
00:35:24.140 --> 00:35:25.070
THING WOULD BREAK OFF.
00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:26.240
I PRAY THAT THE POWERS OF
00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:27.270
WHATEVER THAT ADDICTION IS
00:35:27.270 --> 00:35:29.190
WOULD BREAK OFF, GOD, THAT
00:35:29.190 --> 00:35:31.020
EVERY CURSE THE ENEMY'S TRYING
00:35:31.020 --> 00:35:32.280
TO KEEP PEOPLE A SLAVE TO, GOD,
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.240
THAT THAT'D BE BROKEN OFF RIGHT
00:35:34.240 --> 00:35:37.140
NOW, THROUGH THE POWER OF YOUR
00:35:37.140 --> 00:35:38.210
CROSS AND IN THE POWER OF THE
00:35:38.210 --> 00:35:39.270
NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
00:35:39.270 --> 00:35:41.240
I JUST LIFT 'EM UP BEFORE YOU,
00:35:41.240 --> 00:35:42.240
GOD, AND I PRAY FOR HEALING, IN
00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:43.280
JESUS' NAME.
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.010
AND I LIFT YOU UP RIGHT-- I
00:35:46.010 --> 00:35:47.030
LIFT EVERY ONE OF YOU UP RIGHT
00:35:47.030 --> 00:35:48.150
NOW, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:50.030
SO, YOU JUST RECEIVE THAT.
00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:52.220
AND I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO
00:35:52.220 --> 00:35:53.230
CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN
00:35:53.230 --> 00:35:55.100
RIGHT NOW AND TO TELL THOSE
00:35:55.100 --> 00:35:56.150
PEOPLE YOU JUST PRAYED AND
00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:57.220
THOSE PEOPLE WILL PRAY WITH YOU
00:35:57.220 --> 00:35:59.220
AGAIN, IF YOU NEED TO.
00:35:59.220 --> 00:36:01.040
BUT THERE'S JUST SOMETHING
00:36:01.040 --> 00:36:02.250
ABOUT CONFESSING WHAT YOU'RE
00:36:02.250 --> 00:36:04.210
BELIEVING THAT GOD IS DOING FOR
00:36:04.210 --> 00:36:05.240
YOU AND WHAT YOU'RE RECEIVING.
00:36:05.240 --> 00:36:07.160
IF GOD DID IT FOR ME, HE'LL DO
00:36:07.160 --> 00:36:09.080
IT FOR YOU.
00:36:09.080 --> 00:36:10.050
[APPLAUSE]
00:36:10.050 --> 00:36:10.290
- BIL: PRAISE GOD.
00:36:10.290 --> 00:36:11.190
WOW.
00:36:11.190 --> 00:36:12.110
- JAY: MMH.
00:36:12.110 --> 00:36:13.000
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:13.150
[APPLAUSE]
00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:14.070
SO GOOD...SO GOOD.
00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:15.000
AND, YOU KNOW-- WOW.
00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:18.030
THANK YOU, PASTOR.
00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:19.070
I LOVE THAT.
00:36:19.070 --> 00:36:19.190
YOU KNOW, TBN IS ALL ABOUT
00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:20.080
BRINGING HEALTH AND HEALING TO
00:36:20.080 --> 00:36:21.260
YOU.
00:36:21.260 --> 00:36:23.100
AND WE WANNA BUILD THE CHURCH.
00:36:23.100 --> 00:36:24.220
YOU ARE THE CHURCH.
00:36:24.220 --> 00:36:25.110
YOU'RE THE PEOPLE OF GOD.
00:36:25.110 --> 00:36:26.150
WE'RE GONNA HELP BUILD YOU UP.
00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:27.280
ALL THREE OF THESE MEN UP HERE
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.230
ARE CHURCH BUILDERS, WHICH
00:36:29.230 --> 00:36:31.080
MEANS THAT THEY BUILD PEOPLE
00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:32.160
AND THAT THEY BELIEVE IN YOUR
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:34.110
DREAMS.
00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:36.170
GOD'S GIVEN THEM A DREAM TO
00:36:36.170 --> 00:36:37.160
BUILD YOUR DREAMS, WHICH IS THE
00:36:37.160 --> 00:36:38.080
REALLY GREAT THING ABOUT BEING
00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:38.290
A PASTOR.
00:36:38.290 --> 00:36:39.100
- JAY: YEAH.
00:36:39.100 --> 00:36:39.240
- BIL: AND, YOU KNOW, PASTOR
00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:40.260
DAVID, AS JAY WAS SHARING--
00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:42.090
AND I LOVE YOUR WORK.
00:36:42.090 --> 00:36:44.220
MAN, SO POWERFUL.
00:36:44.220 --> 00:36:45.290
I WILL NOT FORGET THAT
00:36:45.290 --> 00:36:47.010
ILLUSTRATION --
00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:47.260
HALFWAY UP THAT MOUNTAIN.
00:36:47.260 --> 00:36:48.190
THAT IS SO POWERFUL.
00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:49.090
AND, I LOVE THE FACT THAT GOD
00:36:49.090 --> 00:36:50.250
BUILT YOU FIRST BEFORE HE SENT
00:36:50.250 --> 00:36:52.200
YOU TO BUILD THE CHURCH.
00:36:52.200 --> 00:36:55.170
- JAY: YEAH.
00:36:55.170 --> 00:36:56.060
- BIL: AND SO, YOU KNOW,
00:36:56.060 --> 00:36:57.170
PASTOR DAVID, YOU HAVE A
00:36:57.170 --> 00:36:58.260
SIMILAR STORY -- THAT GOD
00:36:58.260 --> 00:36:59.190
REBUILT YOU AFTER SOME MISTAKES
00:36:59.190 --> 00:37:00.250
THAT YOU HAD MADE.
00:37:00.250 --> 00:37:02.200
AND GOD BEGAN TO BUILD YOU AND
00:37:02.200 --> 00:37:03.180
GOD'S USED YOU AND YOUR WIFE IN
00:37:03.180 --> 00:37:04.240
A POWERFUL WAY--
00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:06.030
- DAVID: YEAH.
00:37:06.030 --> 00:37:06.250
- BIL: --IN ST. LOUIS, IN WEST
00:37:06.250 --> 00:37:07.210
PALM BEACH, AND, REALLY, ALL
00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:08.110
OVER THE WORLD.
00:37:08.110 --> 00:37:09.140
I WANNA ASK YOU ABOUT TAKING
00:37:09.140 --> 00:37:10.230
STEPS OF FAITH, IF I CAN.
00:37:10.230 --> 00:37:11.270
- DAVID: SURE.
00:37:11.270 --> 00:37:13.070
- BIL: BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE
00:37:13.070 --> 00:37:13.290
ARE SAYING: OKAY, I'M IN
00:37:13.290 --> 00:37:14.190
THE MIDDLE OF HURTING AND
00:37:14.190 --> 00:37:16.080
YOU'RE TELLING ME TO TAKE A
00:37:16.080 --> 00:37:17.180
STEP OF FAITH?
00:37:17.180 --> 00:37:18.110
I CAN HARDLY KEEP MYSELF
00:37:18.110 --> 00:37:19.030
TOGETHER.
00:37:19.030 --> 00:37:19.220
YOU HAD NO TIME TO PROCESS THE
00:37:19.220 --> 00:37:20.290
PAIN OF YOUR FATHER...
00:37:21.160 --> 00:37:24.160
- DAVID: RIGHT.
00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:25.090
- BIL: AND YOU'RE-- AND NOW--
00:37:25.090 --> 00:37:26.130
OH, YEAH, YOUR DAD DIED.
00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:27.180
OH, DEAL WITH THAT, AND HERE'S
00:37:27.180 --> 00:37:28.190
THIR-- HERE-- HERE RUN THE
00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:29.110
CHURCH.
00:37:29.110 --> 00:37:31.110
- DAVID: YEAH.
00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:31.250
- BIL: HOW'D YOU DO THAT?
00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:32.140
- DAVID: NAW, IT'S A LOT OF
00:37:32.140 --> 00:37:33.040
PAIN.
00:37:33.040 --> 00:37:33.130
YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN, IT
00:37:33.130 --> 00:37:34.030
GOES LIKE WITH PETER ON THE
00:37:34.030 --> 00:37:34.230
WATER.
00:37:34.230 --> 00:37:35.020
YOU KNOW, HE SAYS: HEY, GOD IS
00:37:35.020 --> 00:37:35.270
THAT YOU?
00:37:35.270 --> 00:37:36.160
HE'S LIKE: YEAH!
00:37:36.160 --> 00:37:37.190
HE'S LIKE: WELL, COME THIS WAY.
00:37:37.190 --> 00:37:38.210
AND THE BIBLE SAID HE-- HE
00:37:38.210 --> 00:37:39.290
STARTED WALKIN' ON THE WATER,
00:37:39.290 --> 00:37:40.270
RIGHT?
00:37:40.270 --> 00:37:41.150
AND WE ALL FOCUS ON THE FACT,
00:37:41.150 --> 00:37:42.130
"WELL, HE SUNK!"
00:37:42.130 --> 00:37:43.160
WELL, IF YOU READ THE BIBLE,
00:37:43.160 --> 00:37:44.060
IT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT PETER
00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:46.180
BEGAN TO WALK ON THE WATER.
00:37:46.180 --> 00:37:49.120
AND WHEN HE SAW THE WIND
00:37:49.120 --> 00:37:50.020
BOISTEROUS, HE BEGAN TO SINK.
00:37:50.020 --> 00:37:52.050
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I JUMP IN
00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:53.110
A POOL, I DON'T BEGIN TO SINK.
00:37:53.110 --> 00:37:54.120
YOU JUST GO DOWN LIKE A ROCK,
00:37:54.120 --> 00:37:55.070
RIGHT?
00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:56.180
[LAUGHTER]
00:37:56.180 --> 00:37:57.010
SO, BOOM!
00:37:57.010 --> 00:37:57.150
SO, WHAT HAPPENS IS HE GOT HIS
00:37:57.150 --> 00:37:58.130
EYES OFF OF JESUS AND THE
00:37:58.130 --> 00:37:59.200
PROMISE AND HE GOT IT ON THE
00:37:59.200 --> 00:38:00.280
PROBLEM.
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:01.280
AND SO, I THINK WITH EVERYBODY
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.200
TONIGHT WHO HAS A DREAM,
00:38:03.200 --> 00:38:04.080
WATCHING ON TBN, YOU HAVE THIS
00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:06.170
DREAM, BUT THEN THERE'S THE
00:38:06.170 --> 00:38:07.180
WIND AND THE WAVE.
00:38:07.180 --> 00:38:08.260
YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
00:38:08.260 --> 00:38:10.090
- DAVID: THE SETBACK.
00:38:12.190 --> 00:38:13.070
THE CANCER.
00:38:13.070 --> 00:38:13.210
AND SO, WHILE GOD IS TRYING TO
00:38:13.210 --> 00:38:14.120
ATTRACT YOU, THE DEVIL IS
00:38:14.120 --> 00:38:15.110
TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU.
00:38:15.110 --> 00:38:17.150
SO, WHAT YOU GOTTA DO IS GET
00:38:17.150 --> 00:38:18.220
YOUR EYES OFF THE PROBLEM AND
00:38:18.220 --> 00:38:19.130
GET IT ON THE PROMISE AND SAY:
00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:21.020
OH, I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH
00:38:21.020 --> 00:38:21.240
CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME.
00:38:21.240 --> 00:38:22.210
[APPLAUSE]
00:38:22.210 --> 00:38:23.110
I WALK BY FAITH AND NOT BY
00:38:23.110 --> 00:38:24.130
[APPLAUSE]
00:38:26.060 --> 00:38:26.220
SO, THAT'S WHAT I STARTED
00:38:26.220 --> 00:38:27.110
DOIN'.
00:38:27.110 --> 00:38:27.270
[APPLAUSE]
00:38:27.270 --> 00:38:28.140
AND-- AND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST
00:38:28.140 --> 00:38:29.230
CAN'T-- YOU CAN'T LOOK AND
00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:30.220
JUDGE WHAT ALL IS GONNA HAPPEN
00:38:30.220 --> 00:38:31.270
IN YOUR LIFE, THE GOOD THINGS
00:38:31.270 --> 00:38:33.110
THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN YOUR
00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:34.130
LIFE, ON THE BAD THINGS THAT
00:38:34.130 --> 00:38:35.100
HAPPEN.
00:38:35.100 --> 00:38:35.290
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL,
00:38:35.290 --> 00:38:37.020
YOU CAN JUST GET THIS NEGATIVE
00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:38.110
MINDSET THAT IT'S A HORRIBLE
00:38:38.110 --> 00:38:41.010
LIFE, YOU KNOW?
00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:41.150
I HEARD ABOUT TWO LITTLE BOYS
00:38:41.150 --> 00:38:42.180
WHO THEY WERE TWINS.
00:38:42.180 --> 00:38:43.040
AND, THEY TOOK 'EM INTO
00:38:43.040 --> 00:38:43.280
THIS STUDY AND THEIR RESEARCH
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:44.230
AND THEN THEY SEE THEY'RE
00:38:44.230 --> 00:38:45.170
IDENTICAL TWINS.
00:38:45.170 --> 00:38:47.280
SO, THEY TOOK ONE OF THE LITTLE
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:48.200
BOYS IN THE ROOM AND IT WAS
00:38:48.200 --> 00:38:49.100
THIS GLASS ROOM AND IT WAS FULL
00:38:49.100 --> 00:38:50.180
OF MANURE.
00:38:50.180 --> 00:38:51.150
AND HE COME IN AND SAID, "THIS
00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:52.060
IS MY WHOLE LIFE, STINKS, IT'S
00:38:52.060 --> 00:38:52.270
HORRIBLE!"
00:38:52.270 --> 00:38:53.210
AND HE WAS A PESSIMIST.
00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:54.210
AND THEY BROUGHT THE OTHER TWIN
00:38:54.210 --> 00:38:55.130
IN, AND, HE CAME IN AND HE SAW
00:38:55.130 --> 00:38:56.130
THE MANURE AND HE WENT: "OH, MY
00:38:56.130 --> 00:38:57.090
GOSH!
00:38:57.090 --> 00:38:58.240
THIS IS A GREAT DAY.
00:38:58.240 --> 00:38:59.210
THERE'S A PONY IN HERE
00:38:59.210 --> 00:39:00.160
SOMEWHERE.
00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:01.110
I KNOW THERE IS!"
00:39:01.110 --> 00:39:01.260
[LAUGHTER]
00:39:01.260 --> 00:39:03.290
AND SO, IF YOUR LIFE GIVES YOU
00:39:03.290 --> 00:39:04.200
A BIG PILE OF SOMETHING, YOU
00:39:04.200 --> 00:39:05.100
NEED TO SAY: OH, I KNOW THAT
00:39:05.100 --> 00:39:06.210
GOD WORKS ALL THINGS TOGETHER--
00:39:06.210 --> 00:39:07.130
- BIL: THAT'S AWESOME.
00:39:07.130 --> 00:39:09.020
- DAVID: --FOR MY GOOD.
00:39:09.020 --> 00:39:10.190
AND THE ENEMY SAW THAT I WAS
00:39:10.190 --> 00:39:11.090
GOING TO DO SOMETHING BIG, SO
00:39:11.090 --> 00:39:12.000
THAT'S WHY HE TARGETED ME AND
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:12.210
HE TRIED TO TAKE ME OUT.
00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:13.130
- BIL: MMH.
00:39:13.130 --> 00:39:14.040
- DAVID: SO, A LOT OF YOU GUYS
00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:14.260
FEEL LIKE -- AND I KNOW WE ALL
00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:16.010
HAVE AND YOU PROBABLY-- GOD LED
00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:16.280
YOU HERE TO WATCH RIGHT NOW --
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.130
YOU FEEL LIKE: I'VE BEEN
00:39:18.130 --> 00:39:20.110
THROUGH MORE TROUBLE THAN MOST
00:39:20.110 --> 00:39:21.060
PEOPLE.
00:39:21.060 --> 00:39:21.260
AND HERE'S MY PHILOSOPHY ON
00:39:21.260 --> 00:39:22.220
THAT.
00:39:22.220 --> 00:39:24.040
I BELIEVE THAT FROM THE
00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:25.030
BEGINNING OF TIME THAT THE
00:39:25.030 --> 00:39:25.240
ENEMY SAW THAT YOU WERE GONNA
00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:28.050
BE A THREAT.
00:39:28.050 --> 00:39:28.270
YOU LOOK AT JOYCE MEYER, YOU
00:39:28.270 --> 00:39:31.140
KNOW, WHO'S KINDA MY SPIRITUAL
00:39:31.140 --> 00:39:32.050
MOM.
00:39:32.050 --> 00:39:32.220
SHE BOUGHT ME MY FIRST TV
00:39:32.220 --> 00:39:33.110
CAMERAS.
00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:33.240
SHE WAS MOLESTED BY HER DAD
00:39:33.240 --> 00:39:34.180
EVERY DAY!
00:39:34.180 --> 00:39:35.140
SHE WENT PUBLIC WITH THAT.
00:39:35.140 --> 00:39:36.130
WHY?
00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:37.010
THE ENEMY SAW THE GREAT THINGS
00:39:37.010 --> 00:39:37.220
SHE WAS GONNA DO.
00:39:37.220 --> 00:39:38.230
IN FACT, EVERYBODY WHO HAS A
00:39:38.230 --> 00:39:39.240
GREAT PROMOTION, THEY ALWAYS
00:39:39.240 --> 00:39:41.280
WENT THROUGH A GREAT TRIAL AND
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:42.260
PILES OF PROBLEMS.
00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:44.150
AND SO, I THINK, AGAIN, GOING
00:39:44.150 --> 00:39:46.080
BACK TO THAT THING -- WHAT
00:39:46.080 --> 00:39:47.160
DOESN'T KILL YOU MAKES YOU
00:39:47.160 --> 00:39:48.170
STRONGER -- AND YOU GOTTA START
00:39:48.170 --> 00:39:50.010
SAYING WHAT YOU WANNA HAVE
00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:51.010
INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU DON'T WANNA
00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:52.250
HAVE.
00:39:52.250 --> 00:39:53.160
IN FACT, OVER HERE ON THE SIDE
00:39:53.160 --> 00:39:54.230
OF THE SET RIGHT NOW IS A GUY
00:39:54.230 --> 00:39:55.230
WHO'S A FRIEND OF MINE.
00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:56.110
HE GOES TO OUR CHURCH.
00:39:56.110 --> 00:39:57.200
AND, HE'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE
00:39:57.200 --> 00:39:58.250
COMPANY.
00:39:58.250 --> 00:39:59.130
AND, THEY HIRED SOME
00:39:59.130 --> 00:40:00.140
RESEARCHERS TO COME IN.
00:40:00.140 --> 00:40:01.290
IT'S A BIG COMPANY.
00:40:01.290 --> 00:40:02.270
AND THEY SAID, "WE WANT YOU TO
00:40:02.270 --> 00:40:03.180
SOLVE A LOT OF OUR PROBLEMS AND
00:40:03.180 --> 00:40:04.200
FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON."
00:40:04.200 --> 00:40:05.200
AND SO, THEY FOLLOWED HIM
00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:06.220
AROUND AND THEN HE SAID THIS
00:40:06.220 --> 00:40:07.140
AND HE SAID THAT.
00:40:07.140 --> 00:40:08.130
"OUR EMPLOYEES ARE BAD," AND
00:40:08.130 --> 00:40:09.210
"THIS IS BAD," AND "THAT'S
00:40:09.210 --> 00:40:10.230
BAD," AND "THE OTHER'S BAD."
00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:11.290
SO, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
00:40:11.290 --> 00:40:13.010
GUY TOOK ALL THESE NOTES AND HE
00:40:13.010 --> 00:40:14.040
SAID: "HERE'S WHAT I FOUND OUT
00:40:14.040 --> 00:40:15.020
AT YOUR COMPANY.
00:40:15.020 --> 00:40:15.180
I WANT YOU TO SAY THESE WORDS
00:40:15.180 --> 00:40:16.100
AFTER EVERYTHING YOU SAY.
00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:21.210
SO, FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS, I'M
00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:23.080
GONNA BE WITH YOU AND YOU'RE
00:40:23.080 --> 00:40:23.280
GONNA SAY THESE WORDS.
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:24.150
YOU JUST SIMPLY SAY 'AND THAT'S
00:40:24.150 --> 00:40:25.070
THE WAY I WANT IT.'"
00:40:25.070 --> 00:40:25.280
SO, HE WOULD SAY, "I CAN'T SEEM
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.240
TO FIND GOOD EMPLOYEES...AND
00:40:27.240 --> 00:40:28.160
THAT'S THE WAY I WANT IT."
00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:29.230
- BIL: WOW.
00:40:29.230 --> 00:40:30.260
- DAVID: "SEEMS LIKE MY LIFE'S
00:40:30.260 --> 00:40:31.180
JUST...BAD AND IT'S JUST LIKE
00:40:31.180 --> 00:40:32.280
TRAFFIC'S ALWAYS HORRIBLE...AND
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:33.220
THAT'S THE WAY I WANT IT."
00:40:33.220 --> 00:40:35.100
"SEEMS LIKE MY BACK HURTS...AND
00:40:35.100 --> 00:40:36.150
THAT'S THE WAY I WANT IT."
00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:37.140
SEE WHAT I'M SAYIN' RIGHT NOW?
00:40:37.140 --> 00:40:38.080
SO, WE ARE SNARED BY THE WORDS
00:40:38.080 --> 00:40:40.010
OF OUR MOUTH OR WE'RE GOOD BY
00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:41.070
THE FRUIT OR OUR LIPS.
00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:42.040
SO, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A
00:40:42.040 --> 00:40:43.120
PROBLEM ON THE WAY TO YOUR
00:40:43.120 --> 00:40:44.070
PROMISE, YOU NEED TO SAY...
00:40:44.070 --> 00:40:45.130
[SNAPS FINGERS]
00:40:45.130 --> 00:40:45.280
...I DECLARE WHAT I WANT TO
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.280
HAPPEN, NOT WHAT I CURRENTLY
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:50.010
HAVE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I WALK
00:40:50.010 --> 00:40:51.060
BY FAITH.
00:40:51.060 --> 00:40:53.010
[APPLAUSE]
00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:53.200
- BIL: GOOD.
00:40:53.200 --> 00:40:54.060
- DAVID: AND THAT'S THE WAY I
00:40:54.060 --> 00:40:54.270
WANT IT!
00:40:54.270 --> 00:40:55.070
[APPLAUSE]
00:40:55.070 --> 00:40:55.180
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S
00:40:55.180 --> 00:40:56.140
GOOD.
00:40:56.140 --> 00:40:56.260
[APPLAUSE]
00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:57.130
- DAVID: SO, THAT-- HE PAID A
00:40:57.130 --> 00:40:58.040
LOT OF MONEY FOR THAT.
00:40:58.040 --> 00:40:58.230
[LAUGHTER]
00:40:58.230 --> 00:40:59.270
AND YOU JUST GOT THAT FOR FREE.
00:40:59.270 --> 00:41:00.280
[APPLAUSE]
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.020
THOSE CONSULTANTS.
00:41:02.020 --> 00:41:02.170
- BIL: I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT.
00:41:02.170 --> 00:41:03.080
SO, DAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE A
00:41:03.080 --> 00:41:04.110
BIG FAITH GUY.
00:41:04.110 --> 00:41:05.050
YOU'VE TAKEN THESE HUGE STEPS
00:41:05.050 --> 00:41:06.180
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
00:41:06.180 --> 00:41:08.020
SO, LET'S SAY I'M A GUY AND I'M
00:41:08.020 --> 00:41:10.030
LOOKIN' AND I'M GOIN': YOU
00:41:10.030 --> 00:41:10.220
KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A CAMPUS IN
00:41:10.220 --> 00:41:11.200
ST. LOUIS AND WEST PALM, AND,
00:41:11.200 --> 00:41:14.050
I'M JUST TRYIN' TO PAY MY
00:41:14.050 --> 00:41:16.120
BILLS, AND I'M JUST TRYIN' TO
00:41:16.120 --> 00:41:17.030
GET MY MARRIAGE TOGETHER AND MY
00:41:17.030 --> 00:41:17.250
KIDS.
00:41:17.250 --> 00:41:18.040
I JUST WANT 'EM TO...YOU KNOW,
00:41:18.040 --> 00:41:19.060
ACTUALLY OBEY ME ONCE, AND...
00:41:19.060 --> 00:41:19.270
[LAUGHTER]
00:41:19.270 --> 00:41:20.230
YOU KNOW...
00:41:20.230 --> 00:41:21.070
YOU KNOW.
00:41:21.070 --> 00:41:21.200
I'M HAVIN' ALL THESE PROBLEM,
00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:22.110
AND--
00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:22.250
WHAT'S MY FIRST STEP?
00:41:22.250 --> 00:41:24.270
LIKE, WHAT DO I DO?
00:41:24.270 --> 00:41:25.270
HOW DO I GET STARTED?
00:41:25.270 --> 00:41:26.140
I MEAN, THESE GUYS -- I MEAN,
00:41:26.140 --> 00:41:27.050
HONESTLY, I'M AROUND THESE
00:41:27.050 --> 00:41:27.290
GREAT LEADERS RIGHT NOW AND
00:41:27.290 --> 00:41:30.050
THESE ARE SOME INTIMIDATING
00:41:30.050 --> 00:41:30.250
GUYS AND PHENOMENAL LEADERS.
00:41:30.250 --> 00:41:31.270
SO, YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMEONE
00:41:31.270 --> 00:41:33.130
LIKE THIS AND, "PHFFFH...WELL,
00:41:33.130 --> 00:41:34.260
IF I WAS DAVID CRANK..."
00:41:34.260 --> 00:41:35.210
- DAVID: NAH...
00:41:35.210 --> 00:41:36.110
- BIL: "I MEAN, YEAH, IF I--
00:41:36.110 --> 00:41:37.250
YOU KNOW, MY LAST NAME WAS
00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:38.260
FALWELL, MAYBE I COULD DO
00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:39.150
SOMETHING, TOO--"
00:41:39.150 --> 00:41:41.270
YOU KNOW, I MEAN--
00:41:41.270 --> 00:41:42.120
- DAVID: I WISH MINE WAS
00:41:42.120 --> 00:41:43.010
FALWELL.
00:41:43.010 --> 00:41:43.110
- BIL: WE CAN-- YEAH,
00:41:43.110 --> 00:41:43.280
I KNOW WE ALL WANT THAT, RIGHT?
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:44.200
[LAUGHTER]
00:41:44.200 --> 00:41:45.010
- JONATHAN: I THINK CRANK'S
00:41:45.010 --> 00:41:45.210
PRETTY COOL.
00:41:45.210 --> 00:41:46.030
[LAUGHTER]
00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:46.140
- BIL: YEAH, THAT IS PRETTY
00:41:46.140 --> 00:41:47.040
COOL.
00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:47.130
IT IS.
00:41:47.130 --> 00:41:47.220
YOU KNOW, BUT, JAY-- I MEAN, WE
00:41:47.220 --> 00:41:48.180
LOOK AT ALL THREE OF YOU AS
00:41:48.180 --> 00:41:49.080
LIKE YOU'VE DONE SO MUCH.
00:41:49.080 --> 00:41:50.260
WHERE DO YOU START?
00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:51.120
- DAVID: OKAY, SO I THINK THE
00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:52.030
FIRST THING YOU GOTTA DO IS YOU
00:41:52.030 --> 00:41:52.250
GOTTA STOP LOOKING AT WHAT YOU
00:41:52.250 --> 00:41:55.040
DON'T HAVE AND START
00:41:55.040 --> 00:41:56.210
ENVISIONING WHAT YOU DO HAVE.
00:41:56.210 --> 00:41:57.120
- BIL: GOOD.
00:41:57.120 --> 00:41:57.280
- DAVID: SO, YOU START-- WHAT
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:58.190
I CALL IT, AS I ALWAYS SAY IT
00:41:58.190 --> 00:41:59.160
AT OUR ORGANIZATION: I'M THE
00:41:59.160 --> 00:42:00.200
CULTURAL ARCHITECT OF OUR
00:42:00.200 --> 00:42:01.140
WORLD.
00:42:01.140 --> 00:42:02.180
SO, I START CLOSING MY EYES AND
00:42:02.180 --> 00:42:03.270
I COULD SEE WHAT I WANTED TO
00:42:03.270 --> 00:42:05.170
HAVE.
00:42:05.170 --> 00:42:06.120
SO, LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY.
00:42:06.120 --> 00:42:08.290
WHEN I WAS LIKE-- YOU SAW IT ON
00:42:08.290 --> 00:42:10.200
THAT INTRO ROLL AWHILE AGO.
00:42:10.200 --> 00:42:12.130
THERE'S THIS ORANGE BIKE
00:42:12.130 --> 00:42:13.010
ON STAGE, RIGHT?
00:42:13.010 --> 00:42:14.140
THE ORANGE BIKE WAS BECAUSE
00:42:14.140 --> 00:42:15.090
WHEN I GREW UP I GREW UP IN A
00:42:15.090 --> 00:42:16.000
SO, MY DAD WAS A PENTECOSTAL
00:42:18.200 --> 00:42:19.140
PREACHER.
00:42:19.140 --> 00:42:20.090
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY
00:42:20.090 --> 00:42:21.010
WHATSOEVER.
00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:22.060
AND WE WENT FROM CHURCH TO
00:42:22.060 --> 00:42:22.250
CHURCH AND WE WAS BROKE.
00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:23.140
DIDN'T EAT REGULAR.
00:42:23.140 --> 00:42:24.000
AND I WANTED A BIKE!
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:24.160
[LAUGHTER]
00:42:24.160 --> 00:42:24.270
SO, MY DAD SAID: "YOU KNOW
00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:25.240
WHAT, SON?
00:42:25.240 --> 00:42:26.050
YOU'VE GOTTA BELIEVE GOD FOR A
00:42:26.050 --> 00:42:26.260
BIKE."
00:42:26.260 --> 00:42:27.090
SO, HE SAID: "CLOSE YOUR EYES.
00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:28.000
WHAT KIND OF BIKE DO YOU SEE?"
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:28.210
I SAID, "DAD, I SEE AN ORANGE
00:42:28.210 --> 00:42:29.140
I'M GONNA DATE HOW OLD I AM.
00:42:32.050 --> 00:42:32.250
"...AND IT HAS HIGH HANDLEBARS
00:42:32.250 --> 00:42:33.160
AND STREAMERS.
00:42:33.160 --> 00:42:34.110
AND IT HAS A BANANA SEAT.
00:42:34.110 --> 00:42:35.000
IT HAS CHROME FENDERS.
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:35.170
DAD, I SEE IT!"
00:42:35.170 --> 00:42:36.020
[LAUGHTER]
00:42:36.020 --> 00:42:36.210
AND MY DAD'S THINKING, "HOW IN
00:42:36.210 --> 00:42:37.150
THE WORLD AM I GONNA AFFORD
00:42:37.150 --> 00:42:38.120
THIS BIKE?"
00:42:38.120 --> 00:42:39.040
[LAUGHTER]
00:42:39.040 --> 00:42:40.140
WELL, HE GOES TO THE NEXT TOWN,
00:42:40.140 --> 00:42:41.060
AND HE'S DRIVING THROUGH AND HE
00:42:41.060 --> 00:42:42.010
HAS THE LAST $10 TO HIS NAME.
00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:43.030
AND, WHEN WE WERE GOING TO
00:42:43.030 --> 00:42:44.070
LAND, YOU KNOW, AT THIS NEXT
00:42:44.070 --> 00:42:45.120
CHURCH WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE
00:42:45.120 --> 00:42:46.030
NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, HE SEES
00:42:46.030 --> 00:42:47.020
THIS BIKE-- THESE BIKES FOR
00:42:47.020 --> 00:42:48.170
SALE.
00:42:48.170 --> 00:42:50.010
AND SO, IT WAS JUST AN OLD GUY
00:42:50.010 --> 00:42:51.150
WHO PUT A BUNCH OF JUNK BIKES
00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:52.120
TOGETHER.
00:42:52.120 --> 00:42:52.270
SO, MY DAD KNOCKS ON THE
00:42:52.270 --> 00:42:53.230
TRAILER DOOR AND SAYS: "DAVID,
00:42:53.230 --> 00:42:54.180
COME OUTSIDE!
00:42:54.180 --> 00:42:56.010
I HAVE YOUR BIKE!"
00:42:56.010 --> 00:42:56.210
WELL, IN MY MIND, I COULD SEE
00:42:56.210 --> 00:42:57.230
THE ORANGE BIKE.
00:42:57.230 --> 00:42:59.160
I COME OUTSIDE AND IT'S A GREEN
00:42:59.160 --> 00:43:00.290
BIKE, AND IT'S RUSTED, AND THE
00:43:00.290 --> 00:43:02.070
FENDERS ARE RUSTY, AND IT'S
00:43:02.070 --> 00:43:03.040
HORRIBLE.
00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:04.120
AND I SAID, "THAT'S NOT MY
00:43:04.120 --> 00:43:05.010
BIKE!"
00:43:05.010 --> 00:43:05.150
AND MY DAD DIDN'T KNOW THE
00:43:05.150 --> 00:43:06.250
POLITICAL WAY TO RAISE KIDS, SO
00:43:06.250 --> 00:43:08.020
HE PULLED OFF HIS BELT AND
00:43:08.020 --> 00:43:08.210
SAID: "THAT IS YOUR BIKE.
00:43:08.210 --> 00:43:10.160
YOU'RE GONNA LEARN HOW TO RIDE
00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:11.070
THAT BIKE ."
00:43:11.070 --> 00:43:12.060
[LAUGHTER]
00:43:12.060 --> 00:43:13.260
AND SO, I SAID, "DAD, THAT'S
00:43:13.260 --> 00:43:14.160
NOT MY BIKE--"
00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:14.290
HE SAID, "IT IS YOUR BIKE."
00:43:14.290 --> 00:43:15.220
AND SO, HE TRIED TO TEACH ME
00:43:15.220 --> 00:43:16.120
HOW TO RIDE IT AND HE ENDED UP
00:43:16.120 --> 00:43:17.030
RUNNING IT OVER WITH THE CAR
00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:17.230
AND STRAIGHTENING OUT THE
00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:18.120
WHEELS.
00:43:18.120 --> 00:43:19.060
AND...AND SO WE GOT TO THE NEXT
00:43:19.060 --> 00:43:20.030
TOWN AND HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED.
00:43:20.030 --> 00:43:21.070
SOMETIMES WE BREAK DOWN RIGHT
00:43:21.070 --> 00:43:22.130
BEFORE WE BREAK THROUGH.
00:43:22.130 --> 00:43:23.200
SOMEBODY OUGHT TO SAY AMEN.
00:43:23.200 --> 00:43:24.140
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:43:24.140 --> 00:43:25.010
[APPLAUSE]
00:43:25.010 --> 00:43:25.150
- JAY: THAT'S GOOD.
00:43:25.150 --> 00:43:26.090
- BIL: WOW.
00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:27.060
- DAVID: AND SO, WE GO TO THE
00:43:27.060 --> 00:43:27.270
NEXT TOWN.
00:43:27.270 --> 00:43:28.080
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:43:28.080 --> 00:43:28.260
[APPLAUSE]
00:43:28.260 --> 00:43:29.100
- DAVID: THE GUYS KNOCKS AT
00:43:29.100 --> 00:43:30.000
THE TRAILER.
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.090
NOW, THIS GUY DID NOT KNOW THAT
00:43:31.090 --> 00:43:32.010
I WAS BELIEVING GOD FOR A BIKE.
00:43:32.010 --> 00:43:33.150
MY DAD, WHO WAS MY DAD,
00:43:33.150 --> 00:43:34.290
COULDN'T PROVIDE ME WITH THE
00:43:34.290 --> 00:43:37.000
BIKE, BUT MY FATHER COULD.
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:39.200
SO, WHEN I PRAYED THAT PRAYER--
00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:41.010
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:41.230
- DAVID: --WHATEVER WE ASK THE
00:43:41.230 --> 00:43:42.150
FATHER IN THE NAME OF JESUS,
00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:43.050
HE'LL GIVE IT TO US -- AND I
00:43:43.050 --> 00:43:43.250
SAW THAT BIKE, NOBODY KNEW.
00:43:43.250 --> 00:43:44.270
THE GUYS KNOCKS AT THE DOOR.
00:43:44.270 --> 00:43:46.290
HE SAID: "CAN YOU COME TO MY
00:43:46.290 --> 00:43:47.210
HOUSE?
00:43:47.210 --> 00:43:48.290
JUST-- IT'S JUST ONE BLOCK
00:43:48.290 --> 00:43:50.200
AROUND THE CORNER."
00:43:50.200 --> 00:43:51.120
AND MY DAD SAID, "YEAH, OKAY."
00:43:51.120 --> 00:43:52.030
YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEFORE CHURCH.
00:43:52.030 --> 00:43:53.030
AND SO, I WENT WITH HIM.
00:43:53.030 --> 00:43:53.210
HE SAID, "I WANT YOUR SON TO
00:43:53.210 --> 00:43:54.150
GO."
00:43:54.150 --> 00:43:55.150
SO, WE START WALKING UP THE
00:43:55.150 --> 00:43:56.050
DUPLEX, RIGHT?
00:43:56.050 --> 00:43:57.050
IT'S A TWO-FAMILY FLAT, I
00:43:57.050 --> 00:43:58.030
MEAN.
00:43:58.030 --> 00:43:59.050
SO, WE START GOING UP THE
00:43:59.050 --> 00:43:59.240
STAIRS AND WE GO UP THE STAIRS.
00:43:59.240 --> 00:44:00.190
THE GUYS SAYS -- IN ARKANSAS,
00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:01.200
WHERE WE'RE PREACHING -- HE
00:44:01.200 --> 00:44:04.170
GOES, "MY DAD OWNED THE LOCAL
00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:05.080
WESTERN AUTO STORE AND WHEN HE
00:44:05.080 --> 00:44:05.290
CLOSED IT, HE SOLD EVERYTHING,
00:44:05.290 --> 00:44:06.200
BUT THERE WAS ONE THING HE
00:44:06.200 --> 00:44:07.090
COULDN'T SELL."
00:44:07.090 --> 00:44:07.260
AND HE OPENS UP THE CLOSET AND
00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:09.120
THERE ROLLS AN ORANGE BIKE WITH
00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:10.260
A BANANA SEAT WITH HIGH
00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:12.100
HANDLEBARS WITH STREAMERS ON
00:44:12.100 --> 00:44:13.040
IT.
00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:14.150
- JAY: WOW.
00:44:14.150 --> 00:44:15.000
[APPLAUSE]
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:15.140
- DAVID: SOMEBODY OUGHT TO SAY
00:44:15.140 --> 00:44:16.060
AMEN.
00:44:16.060 --> 00:44:16.160
- BIL: WOW!
00:44:16.160 --> 00:44:17.110
- DAVID: AND MY DAD GOES,
00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:18.000
"KICK ME, JUST KICK ME, JUST
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:18.200
KICK"--
00:44:18.200 --> 00:44:19.000
[LAUGHTER]
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:19.110
[APPLAUSE]
00:44:19.110 --> 00:44:19.220
AND SO, THE STORY GOES LIKE
00:44:19.220 --> 00:44:20.120
THIS, YOU KNOW--
00:44:20.120 --> 00:44:20.260
- BIL: AWESOME.
00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:21.120
- DAVID: EVENTUALLY WE DROVE
00:44:21.120 --> 00:44:22.060
THE BIKE AND I HAD A GREAT
00:44:22.060 --> 00:44:23.030
TIME.
00:44:23.030 --> 00:44:23.270
AND IT WAS A MIRACULOUS TIME IN
00:44:23.270 --> 00:44:25.040
MY LIFE.
00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:25.160
BUT IT JUST SHOWED ME THE ART
00:44:25.160 --> 00:44:26.070
OF ENVISIONING.
00:44:26.070 --> 00:44:27.030
CALLING THINGS THAT BE NOT AS
00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:28.210
THOUGH THEY WERE, BELIEVING
00:44:28.210 --> 00:44:30.010
THAT THEY WOULD BECOME.
00:44:30.010 --> 00:44:31.050
- BIL: WOW.
00:44:31.050 --> 00:44:31.210
- DAVID: LATER, MY DAD ENDED
00:44:31.210 --> 00:44:32.250
UP GETTING REALLY WEIRD, A BAD
00:44:32.250 --> 00:44:33.160
SITUATION AND HE-- I DIDN'T
00:44:33.160 --> 00:44:34.150
KNOW IT AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE
00:44:34.150 --> 00:44:35.100
THE BIKE WENT.
00:44:35.100 --> 00:44:36.010
BUT HE HAD TO PAWN THE BIKE TO
00:44:36.010 --> 00:44:37.090
GET GAS TO GET TO THE NEXT
00:44:37.090 --> 00:44:38.120
MEETING.
00:44:38.120 --> 00:44:38.270
- BIL: WOW.
00:44:38.270 --> 00:44:39.110
- DAVID: AND THEN, SOME
00:44:39.110 --> 00:44:40.080
BAPTIST GUY, FULL OF THE
00:44:40.080 --> 00:44:41.280
LORD -- BUDDY CREMEANS -- HE
00:44:42.030 --> 00:44:45.030
HEARD ME PREACH THIS STORY AND
00:44:45.030 --> 00:44:45.240
HE HAD SOMEBODY CUSTOM-BUILD
00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:46.140
THAT BIKE WHEN I'M AN ADULT,
00:44:46.140 --> 00:44:48.070
BROUGHT IT TO DALLAS, PUT IT
00:44:48.070 --> 00:44:49.290
TOGETHER, AND NOW IT SITS IN MY
00:44:49.290 --> 00:44:51.120
OFFICE IN ST. LOUIS.
00:44:51.120 --> 00:44:52.080
AND I ASKED GOD, "GOD, WHY DID
00:44:52.080 --> 00:44:52.290
YOU GIVE THAT BACK?"
00:44:52.290 --> 00:44:54.020
HE SAID: EVERYTHING THE DEVIL
00:44:54.020 --> 00:44:54.230
EVER STOLE FROM YOU, I'M GONNA
00:44:54.230 --> 00:44:56.120
BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
00:44:56.120 --> 00:44:57.010
[APPLAUSE]
00:44:57.010 --> 00:44:58.150
AND I PROMISE YOU--
00:44:58.150 --> 00:44:59.010
- JAY: WOW.
00:44:59.010 --> 00:44:59.130
- BIL: WOW.
00:44:59.130 --> 00:44:59.250
- DAVID: --THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN
00:44:59.250 --> 00:45:00.190
TO YOU.
00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:00.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:45:00.290 --> 00:45:01.100
- BIL: AND IF THE THIEF'S
00:45:01.100 --> 00:45:01.290
FOUND, HE'LL BRING IT BACK.
00:45:01.290 --> 00:45:02.190
- MALE ONSTAGE: WHOOH!
00:45:02.190 --> 00:45:03.070
[APPLAUSE]
00:45:03.070 --> 00:45:03.180
- DAVID: SO-- AND THEN THE
00:45:03.180 --> 00:45:04.080
LAST THING -- AND I DON'T WANNA
00:45:04.080 --> 00:45:05.000
MONOPOLIZE--
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:05.120
- BIL: NO.
00:45:05.120 --> 00:45:05.240
THIS IS GREAT.
00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:06.070
- DAVID: HERE'S THE LAST THING
00:45:06.070 --> 00:45:06.290
I WANNA SAY...
00:45:06.290 --> 00:45:08.130
- BIL: THIS IS SO GOOD.
00:45:08.130 --> 00:45:09.010
- DAVID: SHOW ME YOUR FRIENDS,
00:45:09.010 --> 00:45:09.230
I'LL SHOW YOU YOUR FUTURE.
00:45:09.230 --> 00:45:10.120
A MIND STRETCHED NEVER GOES
00:45:10.120 --> 00:45:11.020
BACK TO THE ORIGINAL SIZE.
00:45:11.020 --> 00:45:11.210
SO, IF YOU WANNA CHANGE YOUR
00:45:11.210 --> 00:45:12.110
LIFE, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE
00:45:12.110 --> 00:45:13.010
WAY YOU THINK.
00:45:13.010 --> 00:45:13.140
IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE WAY YOU
00:45:13.140 --> 00:45:14.050
THINK, YOU CAN CHANGE THE WAY
00:45:14.050 --> 00:45:14.260
YOU LIVE.
00:45:14.260 --> 00:45:15.070
AND SO, THE WAY I DID IT WAS,
00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:16.040
HONESTLY -- LIKE YOU, JAY -- I
00:45:16.040 --> 00:45:17.120
STARTED WATCHING TBN WHEN
00:45:17.120 --> 00:45:18.160
LAVERNE TRIPP WAS SITTIN'-- SIT
00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:19.230
AND SINGIN'.
00:45:19.230 --> 00:45:20.220
[JAY LAUGHS]
00:45:20.220 --> 00:45:21.260
AND, YOU KNOW, EDITH TRIPP AND
00:45:21.260 --> 00:45:22.240
ALL, YOU KNOW-- UH-- YOU KNOW,
00:45:22.240 --> 00:45:24.010
DWIGHT THOMPSON.
00:45:24.010 --> 00:45:25.170
AND I GREW UP ON THIS.
00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:26.270
BUT NOW, I STILL LISTEN TO TBN
00:45:26.270 --> 00:45:28.010
AND ALL THE GREAT MINISTRIES.
00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:29.280
JOSEPH PRINCE BROUGHT ME THE
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:30.250
RADICAL GRACE.
00:45:30.250 --> 00:45:31.270
JOYCE MEYER TAUGHT ME THAT IT
00:45:31.270 --> 00:45:33.000
WAS OKAY TO NOT BE OKAY.
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:33.270
AND I'M WATCHIN' EVERYBODY ON
00:45:33.270 --> 00:45:35.170
TBN AND THOSE WERE MY FRIENDS
00:45:35.170 --> 00:45:37.070
AND THEY STRETCHED MY MIND, AS
00:45:37.070 --> 00:45:38.120
WELL AS PODCASTS.
00:45:38.120 --> 00:45:40.240
SO, TODAY, YOU CAN JUST
00:45:40.240 --> 00:45:41.240
DOWNLOAD-- I MEAN,
00:45:41.240 --> 00:45:43.010
FAITHCHURCH.COM, GET AN APP,
00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:44.020
LISTEN TO ME PREACH, LISTEN TO
00:45:44.020 --> 00:45:45.130
BIL PREACH, LISTEN TO
00:45:45.130 --> 00:45:47.030
JONATHAN FALWELL,
00:45:47.030 --> 00:45:48.080
YOU LISTEN TO JAY.
00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:50.220
AND SO, YOU CAN CHANGE THE WAY
00:45:50.220 --> 00:45:51.130
YOU THINK SIMPLY BY--
00:45:51.130 --> 00:45:52.010
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:45:52.010 --> 00:45:52.170
- DAVID: --HEARING THE WORD.
00:45:52.170 --> 00:45:53.080
'CAUSE FAITH COMETH BY HEARING
00:45:53.080 --> 00:45:53.290
AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD.
00:45:53.290 --> 00:45:54.210
[APPLAUSE]
00:45:54.210 --> 00:45:55.020
SO, JUST HEAR THAT.
00:45:55.020 --> 00:45:55.180
IT'LL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.
00:45:55.180 --> 00:45:56.060
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:45:56.060 --> 00:45:56.200
SO GOOD.
00:45:56.200 --> 00:45:57.000
- JAY: AWESOME.
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:57.230
- BIL: WOW.
00:45:57.230 --> 00:45:58.050
- JAY: YEAH.
00:45:58.050 --> 00:45:58.290
[APPLAUSE]
00:45:58.290 --> 00:46:01.020
- BIL: SO...JONATHAN, YOU'RE
00:46:01.020 --> 00:46:02.230
AN EVANGELIST.
00:46:02.230 --> 00:46:03.260
I KNOW THAT.
00:46:03.260 --> 00:46:04.190
AND I KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE
00:46:04.190 --> 00:46:06.230
TIME WE DO A PROGRAM LIKE THIS,
00:46:06.230 --> 00:46:07.270
THERE'S SOMEONE FLIPPIN'
00:46:07.270 --> 00:46:09.190
THROUGH THE CHANNEL, AND,
00:46:09.190 --> 00:46:11.000
THEY'RE ASKIN' THE SAME
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:12.270
QUESTION ABOUT CHRISTIAN TV
00:46:12.270 --> 00:46:14.240
THAT THEY'RE ASKIN' ABOUT, UH,
00:46:14.240 --> 00:46:16.130
PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING: IS IT
00:46:16.130 --> 00:46:17.080
FAKE OR REAL?
00:46:17.080 --> 00:46:18.250
- JONATHAN: MMH.
00:46:18.250 --> 00:46:19.160
- BIL: THEY WANNA KNOW: IS
00:46:19.160 --> 00:46:20.140
THIS REAL?
00:46:20.140 --> 00:46:22.040
AND THE ONLY WAY THAT SOMEONE
00:46:22.040 --> 00:46:23.200
CAN KNOW IT'S REAL IS TO KNOW
00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:25.110
NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
00:46:25.110 --> 00:46:27.120
BUT WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
00:46:27.120 --> 00:46:28.280
WOULD YOU GIVE SOMEONE AN
00:46:29.290 --> 00:46:32.290
OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE
00:46:32.290 --> 00:46:33.240
CHRIST RIGHT NOW?
00:46:33.240 --> 00:46:35.010
WOULD YOU HELP THEM, SHOW
00:46:35.010 --> 00:46:35.200
THEM SHOW THEM HOW THEY
00:46:35.200 --> 00:46:36.080
CAN MEET JESUS, PERSONALLY.
00:46:36.110 --> 00:46:39.110
- JONATHAN: YOU KNOW, THERE'S
00:46:39.110 --> 00:46:40.020
NO STORY THAT -- AND TONIGHT
00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:40.260
WE'VE HEARD SOME GREAT STORIES
00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:41.170
AND YOU GUYS HAVE SHARED SOME
00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:42.190
AWESOME STORIES ABOUT YOUR
00:46:42.190 --> 00:46:45.030
LIVES AND HOW GOD HAD BROUGHT
00:46:45.030 --> 00:46:46.190
YOU TO WHERE YOU ARE -- BUT
00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:47.290
THERE'S NO STORY THAT HAS EVER
00:46:47.290 --> 00:46:49.020
BEEN TOLD THAT IS MORE
00:46:49.020 --> 00:46:50.210
MORE LIFE-CHANGING THAN THE
00:46:55.270 --> 00:46:57.050
STORY OF A MAN WHO WAS BORN
00:46:57.050 --> 00:46:57.250
2.000 YEARS AGO WHO CAME TO
00:46:57.250 --> 00:46:59.050
THIS EARTH FOR YOU.
00:46:59.050 --> 00:46:59.210
AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
00:46:59.210 --> 00:47:01.260
I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU --
00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:03.060
I'M A PREACHER AND I PREACH
00:47:03.060 --> 00:47:04.010
EVERY WEEK.
00:47:04.010 --> 00:47:05.020
I PREACH GOD'S WORD EVERY WEEK,
00:47:05.020 --> 00:47:05.240
AND, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU --
00:47:05.240 --> 00:47:06.250
I STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY
00:47:06.250 --> 00:47:08.080
GOD WOULD LOVE ME SO MUCH THAT
00:47:08.080 --> 00:47:09.280
HE WOULD ALLOW JESUS TO COME TO
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.210
ROMANS 3:23 -- I QUOTED IT
00:47:16.030 --> 00:47:17.010
EARLIER -- TELLS US WE ALL ARE
00:47:17.010 --> 00:47:17.260
SINNERS AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE
00:47:17.260 --> 00:47:18.180
GLORY OF GOD.
00:47:18.180 --> 00:47:19.060
THAT MEANS WE'VE BLOW IT SO
00:47:19.060 --> 00:47:20.000
MANY TIMES.
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:20.190
AND IT DOESN'T JUST MEAN YOU --
00:47:20.190 --> 00:47:22.020
IT MEANS ME, IT MEANS JAY, IT
00:47:22.020 --> 00:47:22.270
MEANS EVERYONE THAT YOU ARE
00:47:23.100 --> 00:47:26.100
SITTING AROUND RIGHT NOW.
00:47:26.100 --> 00:47:26.290
IT MEANS EVERY PERSON YOU'VE
00:47:26.290 --> 00:47:27.210
EVER MET.
00:47:27.210 --> 00:47:28.120
WE HAVE BLOWN IT SO MANY TIMES
00:47:28.120 --> 00:47:30.140
THAT WHAT WE DESERVE-- ROMANS
00:47:30.140 --> 00:47:31.220
6:23 IS VERY CLEAR.
00:47:32.020 --> 00:47:35.020
IT SAYS THE WAGES OF SIN, WHAT
00:47:35.020 --> 00:47:35.230
WE DESERVE, IS DEATH.
00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:36.240
NOW, THAT'S NOT TALKIN' ABOUT
00:47:36.240 --> 00:47:37.150
PHYSICAL DEATH.
00:47:37.150 --> 00:47:37.290
THAT'S TALKIN' ABOUT SEPARATION
00:47:37.290 --> 00:47:38.210
-- ETERNAL SEPARATION FROM GOD.
00:47:38.210 --> 00:47:39.130
THAT'S WHAT WE DESERVE.
00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:42.260
WE DESERVE FOREVER TO BE AWAY
00:47:43.200 --> 00:47:46.200
FROM ALL THE GOODNESS OF WHO
00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:47.180
GOD IS.
00:47:47.180 --> 00:47:48.290
BUT GOD WOULDN'T HEAR OF THAT.
00:47:48.290 --> 00:47:50.160
ROMANS 5:8 TELLS US: BUT GOD
00:47:50.160 --> 00:47:52.080
DEMONSTRATES HIS OWN LOVE
00:47:52.080 --> 00:47:53.260
TOWARDS US IN THAT WHILE WERE--
00:47:53.260 --> 00:47:55.150
WE WERE-- LISTEN, THIS IS AN
00:47:55.150 --> 00:47:56.220
IMPORTANT WORD -- WHILE WE WERE
00:47:56.220 --> 00:47:57.150
STILL SINNERS, CHRIST DIED FOR
00:47:57.150 --> 00:47:58.260
US.
00:47:58.260 --> 00:48:01.250
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:48:01.250 --> 00:48:02.150
- JONATHAN: LET ME TELL YOU
00:48:02.150 --> 00:48:03.130
WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.
00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:04.000
BECAUSE WHAT THAT MEANS IS-- IT
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.220
DOESN'T SAY: BUT GOD
00:48:04.220 --> 00:48:05.250
DEMONSTRATES HIS OWN LOVE
00:48:05.250 --> 00:48:07.060
TOWARDS US WHEN WE GOT CLEANED
00:48:07.060 --> 00:48:08.220
UP.
00:48:08.220 --> 00:48:09.150
IT DOESN'T SAY: BUT GOD
00:48:09.150 --> 00:48:10.180
DEMONSTRATES HIS OWN LOVE
00:48:10.180 --> 00:48:11.210
TOWARDS US WHEN WE STARTED
00:48:11.210 --> 00:48:12.220
GOING TO CHURCH.
00:48:12.220 --> 00:48:13.200
IT DOESN'T SAY GOD DEMONSTRATES
00:48:13.200 --> 00:48:14.240
HIS OWN LOVE TOWARDS US WHEN
00:48:14.240 --> 00:48:15.220
WE'RE SINGING THE PRAISE SONGS
00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:17.200
ALONG WITH THE PEOPLE ON TV.
00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:20.000
IT DOESN'T SAY GOD DEMONSTRATES
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.040
HIS OWN LOVE TOWARDS US WHEN WE
00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:22.100
ARE LOOKING LIKE THE OTHER
00:48:22.100 --> 00:48:24.150
PEOPLE IN CHURCH.
00:48:24.150 --> 00:48:25.190
IT SAYS THAT GOD DEMONSTRATES
00:48:25.190 --> 00:48:27.210
HIS OWN LOVE TOWARDS US WHILE
00:48:27.210 --> 00:48:28.190
WE ARE STILL SINNERS.
00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:30.210
WHILE WE STILL DESERVE
00:48:30.210 --> 00:48:32.200
SEPARATION FROM GOD,
00:48:32.200 --> 00:48:33.260
GOD STILL LOVES US.
00:48:33.260 --> 00:48:35.140
- JAY: THIS IS AWESOME.
00:48:35.140 --> 00:48:36.020
- JONATHAN: WHAT AN AMAZING
00:48:36.020 --> 00:48:36.220
PICTURE THAT IS.
00:48:36.220 --> 00:48:37.130
- DAVID: WOW.
00:48:37.130 --> 00:48:37.270
- JAY: YEAH.
00:48:37.270 --> 00:48:38.140
- JONATHAN: AND THAT'S THE GOD
00:48:38.140 --> 00:48:39.190
THAT WE LOVE, IT'S THE GOD THAT
00:48:39.190 --> 00:48:40.110
WE SERVE, IT'S THE GOD THAT WE
00:48:40.110 --> 00:48:41.020
CELEBRATE.
00:48:41.020 --> 00:48:41.130
AND IT'S THE GOD THAT, RIGHT
00:48:41.130 --> 00:48:42.230
NOW, I WANT YOU TO HEAR ABOUT.
00:48:42.230 --> 00:48:44.070
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:45.010
- JONATHAN: YOU SEE, THAT GOD
00:48:45.010 --> 00:48:45.280
CREATED EVERYTHING THAT THERE
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.190
IS.
00:48:46.190 --> 00:48:47.240
THE GROUND THAT YOU WALK ON
00:48:47.240 --> 00:48:48.270
EVERY DAY -- GOD CREATED IT.
00:48:48.270 --> 00:48:49.260
[SNAPS FINGERS]
00:48:49.260 --> 00:48:50.210
HE SPOKE IT INTO EXISTENCE.
00:48:50.210 --> 00:48:51.110
EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE EVER
00:48:51.110 --> 00:48:52.130
SEEN -- THE MOUNTAINS, THE
00:48:52.130 --> 00:48:53.120
TREES, THE OCEANS -- EVERYTHING
00:48:53.120 --> 00:48:54.210
THAT IS ON THE FACE OF THIS
00:48:54.210 --> 00:48:55.280
EARTH, GOD CREATED, HE SPOKE IT
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:57.190
INTO EXISTENCE.
00:48:57.190 --> 00:48:58.260
AND THAT GOD, WHO IS
00:48:58.260 --> 00:49:01.010
ALL-POWERFUL AND ALL-PRESENT,
00:49:01.010 --> 00:49:02.270
AND ALL-KNOWING KNOWS YOU AND
00:49:02.270 --> 00:49:05.010
STILL LOVES YOU.
00:49:05.010 --> 00:49:06.100
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:49:06.100 --> 00:49:06.260
- JONATHAN: WHAT AN AMAZING
00:49:06.260 --> 00:49:07.230
TRUTH.
00:49:07.230 --> 00:49:08.090
- JAY: AMAZING.
00:49:08.090 --> 00:49:09.130
- JONATHAN: AND GOD ALLOWED
00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:10.030
HIS ONLY SON, JESUS, TO COME TO
00:49:10.030 --> 00:49:11.090
THIS EARTH, TO DIE ON THE CROSS
00:49:11.090 --> 00:49:12.130
FOR YOUR SINS, TO PAY A DEBT
00:49:12.130 --> 00:49:14.000
THAT WE COULD NEVER HAVE PAID.
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.290
WE CAN'T EARN IT, WE CAN'T WORK
00:49:15.290 --> 00:49:18.100
FOR IT, WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW
00:49:18.100 --> 00:49:19.290
TO TALK OUR WAY OUT OF IT.
00:49:19.290 --> 00:49:20.250
AND LET ME JUST TELL YOU
00:49:20.250 --> 00:49:21.250
SOMETHING -- WE'VE ALL TRIED.
00:49:21.250 --> 00:49:22.160
WE'VE TRIED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
00:49:22.160 --> 00:49:23.240
MAN, WE'LL WORK OUR WAY TO
00:49:23.240 --> 00:49:24.130
HEAVEN, WE'LL FIGURE THIS
00:49:24.130 --> 00:49:26.280
OUT, WE'LL TALK OUR WAY OUT OF
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:27.190
THIS SITUATION.
00:49:27.190 --> 00:49:28.170
LET ME TELL YOU -- YOU CAN TALK
00:49:28.170 --> 00:49:29.090
ABOUT IT, YOU CAN WORK, YOU CAN
00:49:29.090 --> 00:49:31.060
HELP PEOPLE, YOU CAN DO ALL THE
00:49:31.060 --> 00:49:32.090
GOOD THINGS IN THIS WORLD, YOU
00:49:32.090 --> 00:49:33.170
CAN VOLUNTEER AT THE CHARITIES
00:49:33.170 --> 00:49:36.000
EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR THE REST
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.160
OF YOUR LIFE AND YOU WILL NOT
00:49:37.160 --> 00:49:38.190
EVER EARN YOUR WAY TO HEAVEN.
00:49:38.190 --> 00:49:40.260
THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY.
00:49:40.260 --> 00:49:41.140
JOHN 14:6 SAYS THAT JESUS IS
00:49:41.140 --> 00:49:43.140
THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE
00:49:43.200 --> 00:49:46.200
LIFE, AND NO MAN, NO WOMAN, NO
00:49:46.200 --> 00:49:47.290
CHILD, NO PREACHER CAN COME TO
00:49:47.290 --> 00:49:49.030
CHRIST, COME TO GOD, EXCEPT
00:49:49.030 --> 00:49:51.000
THROUGH JESUS.
00:49:55.180 --> 00:49:58.180
AND SO, TODAY--
00:49:58.180 --> 00:49:59.060
- BIL: GOOD.
00:49:59.060 --> 00:50:00.070
- JAY: AWESOME.
00:50:00.070 --> 00:50:00.220
[APPLAUSE]
00:50:00.220 --> 00:50:01.070
TODAY, THE MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL
00:50:01.070 --> 00:50:01.290
OF JESUS CHRIST IS THIS --
00:50:01.290 --> 00:50:03.070
ROMANS 10: IF YOU
00:50:03.070 --> 00:50:03.260
BELIEVE THAT JESUS DIED AND
00:50:03.260 --> 00:50:05.110
THAT HE ROSE AGAIN, IF YOU
00:50:05.110 --> 00:50:06.000
BELIEVE THAT HE IS GOD'S SON --
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:07.040
ROMANS 10:13, LISTEN TO THIS --
00:50:07.040 --> 00:50:08.150
ANYONE -- YOU -- ANYONE WHO
00:50:10.210 --> 00:50:13.210
CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD
00:50:13.210 --> 00:50:14.240
WILL BE SAVED.
00:50:16.060 --> 00:50:19.060
IT DOESN'T SAY YOU'VE GOTTA
00:50:19.060 --> 00:50:19.260
HAVE A BIG BIBLE.
00:50:19.260 --> 00:50:20.110
IT DOESN'T SAY YOU'VE GOTTA
00:50:20.110 --> 00:50:21.010
HAVE A SUIT.
00:50:21.010 --> 00:50:21.200
IT DOESN'T SAY YOU'VE GOTTA GO
00:50:21.200 --> 00:50:22.110
TO THE RIGHT CHURCH.
00:50:22.110 --> 00:50:23.020
IT DOESN'T SAY YOU'VE GOTTA
00:50:23.020 --> 00:50:23.280
GROW UP ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:24.210
THE TRACKS.
00:50:24.210 --> 00:50:25.130
IT SAYS THIS: CALL ON HIS NAME.
00:50:25.150 --> 00:50:28.150
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:50:28.150 --> 00:50:29.150
- JONATHAN: RIGHT NOW, I'D
00:50:29.150 --> 00:50:30.050
LIKE TO PRAY A SIMPLE PRAYER
00:50:30.050 --> 00:50:31.120
THAT YOU, WHEREVER YOU ARE
00:50:31.120 --> 00:50:32.010
SEATED ANYWHERE IN THIS WORLD
00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:33.140
WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU
00:50:33.140 --> 00:50:34.240
CAN PRAY THIS PRAYER ALONG WITH
00:50:34.240 --> 00:50:36.090
ME, CRYIN' OUT NOT TO ME BUT TO
00:50:36.090 --> 00:50:37.150
GOD TO SAY: GOD, SAVE ME.
00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:38.290
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU -- IF
00:50:38.290 --> 00:50:41.040
YOU'VE NEVER DONE THAT -- I
00:50:41.040 --> 00:50:42.260
ENCOURAGE YOU RIGHT NOW JUST TO
00:50:42.260 --> 00:50:44.010
PRAY THIS PRAYER ALONG WITH ME.
00:50:44.010 --> 00:50:44.230
HEAVENLY FATHER, I THANK YOU
00:50:44.230 --> 00:50:45.280
FOR LOVING ME.
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.060
[JAY REPEATS]
00:50:48.060 --> 00:50:48.200
I DON'T DESERVE IT.
00:50:48.200 --> 00:50:49.060
GOD, I AM A SINNER.
00:50:49.160 --> 00:50:52.160
AND I DO NOT DESERVE THE GIFT
00:50:52.160 --> 00:50:53.070
OF YOUR SON.
00:50:53.070 --> 00:50:54.010
- BIL: THAT'S RIGHT
00:50:54.010 --> 00:50:54.170
- JONATHAN: GOD, I'VE BLOWN IT
00:50:54.170 --> 00:50:55.130
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
00:50:57.150 --> 00:51:00.170
- JAY: YES.
00:51:00.170 --> 00:51:01.080
- JONATHAN: BUT, GOD, I'M SO
00:51:01.080 --> 00:51:01.290
AMAZED THAT YOU STILL LOVE ME.
00:51:01.290 --> 00:51:02.200
- JAY: YES, THANK YOU, JESUS.
00:51:02.200 --> 00:51:03.110
- JONATHAN: GOD, TONIGHT I
00:51:03.110 --> 00:51:04.010
CLAIM, I BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS
00:51:04.010 --> 00:51:06.090
YOUR SON.
00:51:06.090 --> 00:51:07.010
AND I BELIEVE THAT HE DIED ON
00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:09.050
THE CROSS FOR ME 2.000 YEARS
00:51:09.050 --> 00:51:10.070
AGO.
00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:11.060
AND I BELIEVE THAT THREE DAYS
00:51:11.060 --> 00:51:12.290
LATER HE ROSE AGAIN, JUST AS HE
00:51:12.290 --> 00:51:14.040
SAID...
00:51:14.040 --> 00:51:15.140
- JAY: THANK YOU, GOD.
00:51:15.140 --> 00:51:16.070
- JONATHAN: ...AND THAT,
00:51:16.070 --> 00:51:17.050
TODAY, HE IS SITTING AT YOUR
00:51:17.050 --> 00:51:17.260
RIGHT HAND PRAYING FOR ME.
00:51:17.260 --> 00:51:20.120
GOD, TODAY I'M A SINNER.
00:51:20.120 --> 00:51:21.090
FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS.
00:51:21.090 --> 00:51:22.110
- JAY: YES, LORD.
00:51:22.110 --> 00:51:23.020
- JONATHAN: GOD, I NEED A
00:51:23.020 --> 00:51:23.250
SAVIOR.
00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:25.120
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN
00:51:25.120 --> 00:51:26.020
SAVE ME.
00:51:26.020 --> 00:51:26.160
GOD, TODAY I CALL ON YOUR NAME.
00:51:26.160 --> 00:51:29.010
SAVE ME THROUGH YOUR SON,
00:51:29.010 --> 00:51:29.200
JESUS.
00:51:29.200 --> 00:51:31.230
- JAY: YES.
00:51:31.230 --> 00:51:32.260
- JONATHAN: THANK YOU, GOD,
00:51:32.260 --> 00:51:33.160
FOR SAVING ME.
00:51:33.160 --> 00:51:34.020
- JAY: THANK YOU, JESUS.
00:51:34.020 --> 00:51:34.260
- JONATHAN: THANK YOU, GOD,
00:51:34.260 --> 00:51:35.210
FOR LOVING ME.
00:51:35.210 --> 00:51:37.060
THANK YOU, GOD, FOR THE GIFT OF
00:51:37.060 --> 00:51:37.280
ETERNITY OF HEAVEN, OF KNOWING
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.140
THAT I CAN SPEND ETERNITY WITH
00:51:40.140 --> 00:51:41.170
YOU.
00:51:41.170 --> 00:51:43.100
- JAY: THANK YOU, LORD.
00:51:43.100 --> 00:51:43.280
- JONATHAN: THANK YOU, GOD...
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.190
- JAY: MMH.
00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:45.110
- JONATHAN: ...FOR THAT LOVE.
00:51:45.110 --> 00:51:46.250
IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY...AMEN.
00:51:46.250 --> 00:51:47.270
- JAY: AMEN.
00:51:47.270 --> 00:51:48.100
- BIL: AMEN.
00:51:48.100 --> 00:51:49.120
[APPLAUSE]
00:51:49.120 --> 00:51:50.140
- JONATHAN: FRIEND, IF YOU
00:51:50.140 --> 00:51:51.040
PRAYED THAT PRAYER, CALL THE
00:51:51.040 --> 00:51:52.200
NUMBER RIGHT NOW.
00:51:52.200 --> 00:51:54.090
- BIL: YEAH!
00:51:54.090 --> 00:51:55.280
- JONATHAN: AND WE'D LOVE TO
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:56.190
PRAY WITH YOU AND TALK WITH YOU
00:51:56.190 --> 00:51:57.110
RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT
00:51:57.110 --> 00:51:57.270
YOU'VE DONE.
00:51:57.270 --> 00:51:59.180
[APPLAUSE]
00:51:59.180 --> 00:52:00.050
- JAY: THAT'S SO AWESOME.
00:52:00.050 --> 00:52:00.260
- BIL: THANK YOU, PASTOR
00:52:00.260 --> 00:52:01.150
JONATHAN.
00:52:01.150 --> 00:52:01.260
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:52:01.260 --> 00:52:02.110
AND IF YOU DID JUST PRAY THAT
00:52:02.110 --> 00:52:03.020
PRAYER, WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE
00:52:03.020 --> 00:52:03.230
US A CALL?
00:52:03.230 --> 00:52:04.040
WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU
00:52:04.040 --> 00:52:04.230
RIGHT NOW.
00:52:04.230 --> 00:52:05.060
AND JUST ON BEHALF OF MATT AND
00:52:05.060 --> 00:52:05.270
LAURIE, WE JUST WANNA SAY, FROM
00:52:05.270 --> 00:52:06.190
TBN, THAT WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR
00:52:06.190 --> 00:52:07.130
YOU.
00:52:07.130 --> 00:52:08.170
AND WHEN YOU MAKE A DECISION TO
00:52:08.170 --> 00:52:09.090
FOLLOW CHRIST, THAT IS WHY
00:52:09.090 --> 00:52:10.130
WE'RE HERE!
00:52:10.130 --> 00:52:12.020
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
00:52:12.020 --> 00:52:12.230
IS HELP YOU KNOW JESUS.
00:52:12.230 --> 00:52:14.200
HE'S THE GAME-CHANGING PIECE IN
00:52:14.200 --> 00:52:15.280
YOUR LIFE THAT YOU NEED.
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.020
HE'S WHAT JAY FOUND IN TOTAL
00:52:18.020 --> 00:52:20.170
DESPERATION.
00:52:20.170 --> 00:52:21.010
HE'S WHAT JONATHAN FOUND, HE'S
00:52:21.010 --> 00:52:21.260
WHAT DAVID FOUND.
00:52:21.260 --> 00:52:22.120
HE BUILT OUR LIVES FROM SCRATCH,
00:52:22.270 --> 00:52:25.270
FROM NOTHING.
00:52:25.270 --> 00:52:26.150
HE'S GONNA DO THE SAME WITH
00:52:26.150 --> 00:52:27.070
YOU.
00:52:27.070 --> 00:52:28.170
- JAY: MMH.
00:52:28.170 --> 00:52:29.140
- BIL: AND SO, GOD WANTS TO
00:52:29.140 --> 00:52:30.040
TAKE YOU FROM DREAM TO DESTINY
00:52:30.040 --> 00:52:31.130
BUT HE FIRST HAS TO FIRST
00:52:31.130 --> 00:52:33.230
ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH
00:52:33.230 --> 00:52:35.020
YOU AND THAT HAPPENS THROUGH
00:52:35.020 --> 00:52:35.260
JESUS.
00:52:35.260 --> 00:52:37.190
THANK YOU FOR PRAYING THAT
00:52:37.190 --> 00:52:38.130
PRAYER.
00:52:38.130 --> 00:52:38.270
AND WE WANNA HEAR FROM YOU, SO
00:52:38.270 --> 00:52:39.180
PLEASE GIVE US A CALL RIGHT
00:52:39.180 --> 00:52:40.080
NOW, THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN.
00:52:40.080 --> 00:52:41.120
GIVE US A CALL RIGHT NOW.
00:52:41.120 --> 00:52:42.140
WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
00:52:42.140 --> 00:52:44.030
REAL QUICK -- WE ONLY HAVE A
00:52:44.030 --> 00:52:44.240
FEW MORE MINUTES.
00:52:44.240 --> 00:52:45.120
REAL QUICK.
00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:45.290
WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES
00:52:45.290 --> 00:52:47.020
REAL QUICK, GUYS.
00:52:47.020 --> 00:52:47.170
I JUST WANNA ASK YOU-- I'M
00:52:47.170 --> 00:52:48.060
GONNA GO RAPID FIRE, REAL
00:52:48.060 --> 00:52:49.030
QUICK, OKAY?
00:52:49.030 --> 00:52:49.150
HERE'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK EACH
00:52:49.150 --> 00:52:50.060
OF YOU: IF THERE WAS ONE THING
00:52:50.060 --> 00:52:50.270
THAT YOU COULD JUST SAY, "THIS
00:52:50.270 --> 00:52:51.210
IS WHAT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER TO
00:52:51.210 --> 00:52:52.120
GO FROM THE DREAM TO YOUR
00:52:52.120 --> 00:52:53.140
DESTINY, HERE'S THAT NEXT STEP
00:52:53.140 --> 00:52:55.240
FOR YOU," WHAT WOULD IT BE?
00:52:55.240 --> 00:52:57.050
I'M GONNA GO RAPID FIRE.
00:52:57.050 --> 00:52:57.230
I'M GONNA START HERE.
00:52:57.230 --> 00:52:58.100
I'M GONNA GO AROUND.
00:52:58.100 --> 00:52:59.020
I JUST WANNA HEAR: WHAT'S THE
00:52:59.020 --> 00:52:59.230
ONE THING YOU SAY?
00:52:59.230 --> 00:53:00.220
"JUST DON'T FORGET TO DO THIS."
00:53:00.220 --> 00:53:01.200
GO.
00:53:01.200 --> 00:53:03.000
- DAVID: YOU KNOW, I THINK
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:03.280
IT'S DON'T BREAK DOWN BEFORE
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:04.260
YOU BREAK THROUGH.
00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:05.110
CONSISTENCY IS THE KEY TO THE
00:53:05.110 --> 00:53:06.020
BREAKTHROUGH.
00:53:06.020 --> 00:53:06.190
SO, AS I SAID AWHILE AGO, YOU
00:53:06.190 --> 00:53:07.220
WALK BY FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT.
00:53:07.220 --> 00:53:09.060
THE FEELINGS WILL FOLLOW.
00:53:09.060 --> 00:53:11.080
YOUR FEELINGS ARE FICKLE.
00:53:11.080 --> 00:53:12.140
"I DON'T FEEL SAVED," "I DON'T
00:53:12.140 --> 00:53:13.150
FEEL MARRIED," "I DON'T FEEL
00:53:13.150 --> 00:53:14.150
HAPPY."
00:53:14.150 --> 00:53:15.090
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:53:15.090 --> 00:53:15.280
- DAVID: WE DON'T GO BY OUR
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:16.180
FEELINGS; OUR FEELINGS FOLLOW
00:53:16.180 --> 00:53:18.090
AS WE WALK BY FAITH.
00:53:18.090 --> 00:53:19.220
AND IT'S JUST LIKE A
00:53:19.220 --> 00:53:20.210
THERMOMETER OR A THERMOSTAT.
00:53:20.210 --> 00:53:21.270
A THERMOMETER TELLS YOU WHAT IT
00:53:21.270 --> 00:53:23.150
IS IN A ROOM, YOU KNOW, AND A
00:53:23.150 --> 00:53:24.190
THERMOSTAT CAN CHANGE IT.
00:53:24.190 --> 00:53:25.280
SO, I DON'T WALK OUT AND SET IT
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.020
AT 72 AND WORRY ABOUT IT.
00:53:27.020 --> 00:53:28.000
- BIL: THAT'S GOOD.
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:28.170
- JAY: YEAH, I THINK, YOU
00:53:28.170 --> 00:53:29.090
KNOW, FOR ME--
00:53:29.090 --> 00:53:31.220
[APPLAUSE]
00:53:31.220 --> 00:53:32.060
- BIL: SO GOOD.
00:53:32.060 --> 00:53:32.200
[APPLAUSE]
00:53:32.200 --> 00:53:33.010
- JAY: --WHAT I WOULD
00:53:33.010 --> 00:53:33.180
ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO IS TO
00:53:33.180 --> 00:53:34.230
JUST STAY FOCUSED ON THE THING
00:53:34.230 --> 00:53:36.250
THAT YOU KNOW GOD'S CALLED YOU
00:53:36.250 --> 00:53:37.160
TO.
00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:39.080
AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU
00:53:39.080 --> 00:53:39.270
ENCOUNTER BETWEEN WHERE YOU ARE
00:53:39.270 --> 00:53:41.210
AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING, JUST
00:53:41.210 --> 00:53:42.170
STAY FOCUSED.
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.000
DON'T ALLOW THE PROBLEMS THAT
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:46.210
YOU ENCOUNTER TO CAUSE YOU TO
00:53:46.210 --> 00:53:49.000
TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF WHERE GOD
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:50.050
WANTS TO TAKE YOU.
00:53:50.050 --> 00:53:52.010
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:53:52.010 --> 00:53:52.190
[APPLAUSE]
00:53:52.190 --> 00:53:53.040
JONATHAN?
00:53:53.040 --> 00:53:53.180
- JONATHAN: IT'S SIMPLE.
00:53:53.180 --> 00:53:54.160
[APPLAUSE]
00:53:54.160 --> 00:53:55.140
YOU GO BACK TO THE 1970S, BACK
00:53:55.140 --> 00:53:57.110
IN THE DAYS THAT YOU WERE
00:53:57.110 --> 00:53:58.140
TALKIN' ABOUT, THERE WAS A
00:53:58.140 --> 00:53:59.080
BUMPER STICKER THAT PEOPLE HAD
00:53:59.080 --> 00:54:00.070
ON THEIR CARS.
00:54:00.070 --> 00:54:00.260
IT SAID: GOD SAID IT, I BELIEVE
00:54:00.260 --> 00:54:02.050
IT, AND THAT SETTLES IT FOR ME.
00:54:02.050 --> 00:54:03.100
[LAUGHTER]
00:54:03.100 --> 00:54:03.250
THAT BUMPER STICKER WAS WRONG.
00:54:03.250 --> 00:54:04.260
GOD SAID IT.
00:54:04.260 --> 00:54:05.140
BELIEVE IT.
00:54:05.140 --> 00:54:06.170
THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW.
00:54:06.170 --> 00:54:07.070
- JAY: YEAH.
00:54:07.070 --> 00:54:07.200
- BIL: THAT'S SO GOOD.
00:54:07.200 --> 00:54:08.080
WOW!
00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:08.170
- JAY: THAT'S AWESOME.
00:54:08.170 --> 00:54:09.100
[APPLAUSE]
00:54:09.100 --> 00:54:10.040
- BIL: WOW!
00:54:10.040 --> 00:54:10.200
[LAUGHTER]
00:54:10.200 --> 00:54:12.290
- DAVID: HE'S JUST THAT GOOD.
00:54:12.290 --> 00:54:13.290
- BIL: I'M TELLING YOU!
00:54:13.290 --> 00:54:14.170
HE JUST DROPS IT LIKE THIS.
00:54:14.170 --> 00:54:15.070
HE SEES THE MIC, HE CAN
00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:15.250
JUST DROP, JUST LIKE THAT.
00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:16.190
WOW, THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
00:54:16.190 --> 00:54:18.220
[LAUGHTER]
00:54:18.220 --> 00:54:19.100
I LOVE IT.
00:54:19.100 --> 00:54:19.230
WELL, I JUST-- MAN, I'M JUST SO
00:54:19.230 --> 00:54:20.150
EXCITED TO HAVE ALL THESE
00:54:20.150 --> 00:54:21.130
AMAZING LEADERS HERE.
00:54:21.130 --> 00:54:22.010
WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR-- FOR
00:54:22.010 --> 00:54:22.260
EACH ONE OF YOU TAKING THE TIME
00:54:22.260 --> 00:54:23.280
TO COME AND JUST TO SHARE WITH
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.190
US.
00:54:24.190 --> 00:54:25.060
IT'S JUST PHENOMENAL JUST TO
00:54:25.060 --> 00:54:26.120
HEAR FROM EACH ONE OF YOU.
00:54:27.190 --> 00:54:30.190
AND I JUST WANNA LEAVE US WITH
00:54:30.190 --> 00:54:31.100
A CLOSING THOUGHT, IF I CAN,
00:54:31.100 --> 00:54:32.000
AND JUST TELL YOU THAT...GOD'S
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:32.210
IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU SHOULD
00:54:34.150 --> 00:54:35.060
HAVE HEARD TODAY IT IS THAT
00:54:35.060 --> 00:54:36.060
EVERY ONE OF THESE GUYS STARTED
00:54:36.060 --> 00:54:38.200
OFF NOT ONLY NOT WHERE THEY ARE
00:54:38.200 --> 00:54:39.120
TODAY BUT PROBABLY WORSE OFF AT
00:54:39.120 --> 00:54:40.040
SOME POINT THAN WHERE YOU ARE
00:54:40.040 --> 00:54:41.040
WHICH MEANS THAT GOD HAS ALLOWED
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:45.030
SOMEONE TO BE DEALT A HAND WORSE
00:54:45.030 --> 00:54:46.270
THAN YOU AND THEY'RE WINNING
00:54:46.270 --> 00:54:47.170
WITH IT...
00:54:47.170 --> 00:54:49.040
- JAY: MMH.
00:54:49.040 --> 00:54:49.240
- BIL: ...WHICH MEANS YOU CAN,
00:54:49.240 --> 00:54:50.160
TOO.
00:54:50.160 --> 00:54:52.030
- JAY: YEAH.
00:54:52.030 --> 00:54:52.200
- BIL: ...WHICH MEANS GOD'S
00:54:52.200 --> 00:54:53.210
NOT FINISHED WITH YOU, EITHER.
00:54:53.210 --> 00:54:54.120
HE STILL HAS A PLAN FOR YOUR
00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:55.020
LIFE.
00:54:55.020 --> 00:54:55.110
I MEAN, PASTOR DAVID, YOU
00:54:57.160 --> 00:54:58.090
CLEARLY EXPLAINED THAT SO WELL.
00:54:58.090 --> 00:54:59.010
HE WANTS TO BLESS YOU, HE'S NOT
00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:00.070
TRYIN' TO HURT YOU, HE WANTS TO
00:55:00.070 --> 00:55:00.290
LOVE YOU.
00:55:00.290 --> 00:55:03.220
I LOVE YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU
00:55:03.220 --> 00:55:04.110
KNOW, HE'S NOT POINTING
00:55:04.110 --> 00:55:06.140
A FINGER THIS WAY.
00:55:06.140 --> 00:55:07.050
HE'S POINTING THE FINGER THIS
00:55:07.050 --> 00:55:08.020
WAY, SAYING: I LOVE YOU, COME
00:55:08.020 --> 00:55:08.230
HERE, I WANNA BLESS YOU, I
00:55:08.230 --> 00:55:09.120
WANNA TAKE CARE OF YOU.
00:55:09.120 --> 00:55:10.000
THAT'S HOW GOD FEELS ABOUT YOU.
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:10.220
- JAY: YEAH.
00:55:10.220 --> 00:55:11.050
- BIL: YOU KNOW, EACH ONE OF
00:55:11.050 --> 00:55:12.020
THESE GUYS HAVE SUCH UNIQUE
00:55:12.020 --> 00:55:12.240
STORIES.
00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:13.110
BUT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE STORY,
00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:14.110
TOO, AND YOUR STORY BEGINS WITH
00:55:14.110 --> 00:55:15.230
THAT'S THE FIRST STEP.
00:55:18.160 --> 00:55:19.180
AND ONCE YOU RECEIVE CHRIST,
00:55:19.180 --> 00:55:20.080
THE NEXT STEP IS GETTING
00:55:20.080 --> 00:55:20.260
INVOLVED IN A GREAT,
00:55:20.260 --> 00:55:22.070
BIBLE-BELIEVING CHURCH WHERE
00:55:22.070 --> 00:55:23.100
THEY TEACH JESUS EVERY SINGLE
00:55:23.100 --> 00:55:24.060
WEEK.
00:55:24.060 --> 00:55:26.210
IF YOU'RE ANYWHERE NEAR ANY OF
00:55:26.210 --> 00:55:27.120
THESE GUYS' CHURCHES, GO CHECK
00:55:27.120 --> 00:55:28.110
PHENOMENAL CHURCHES!
00:55:30.060 --> 00:55:30.220
GREAT MINISTRIES HAPPENING.
00:55:30.220 --> 00:55:31.120
AND, OF COURSE, KEEP WATCHING
00:55:31.120 --> 00:55:33.060
TBN, KEEP BEING A PART OF THE
00:55:33.060 --> 00:55:33.270
PROGRAM.
00:55:33.270 --> 00:55:34.280
WE WANNA HEAR FROM YOU.
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:36.220
AND SO, PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.
00:55:36.220 --> 00:55:37.130
WOULD YOU DO THAT?
00:55:37.130 --> 00:55:38.030
MAKE THAT PHONE RING JUST SO WE
00:55:38.030 --> 00:55:38.250
CAN HEAR FROM YOU.
00:55:38.250 --> 00:55:39.100
WE WANNA KNOW IF THIS MAKING AN
00:55:39.100 --> 00:55:40.020
IMPACT IN YOUR LIFE.
00:55:40.020 --> 00:55:40.190
PLEASE GIVE US A CALL.
00:55:40.190 --> 00:55:42.000
AND, AS ALWAYS, WE WANNA THANK
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:42.290
THOSE WHO GENEROUSLY SUPPORT
00:55:42.290 --> 00:55:45.130
THIS MINISTRY.
00:55:45.130 --> 00:55:46.090
WE COULD NOT TAKE THE GOSPEL
00:55:46.090 --> 00:55:47.030
AROUND THE WORLD WITHOUT YOU.
00:55:47.030 --> 00:55:49.060
SO, WE JUST WANNA SAY, AGAIN:
00:55:49.060 --> 00:55:49.270
THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF
00:55:49.270 --> 00:55:51.220
TBN.
00:55:51.220 --> 00:55:52.140
THANKS FOR BEING A PART OF
00:55:52.140 --> 00:55:53.170
"PRAISE" TODAY.
00:55:53.170 --> 00:55:55.080
AND MY PRAYER IS IF YOU LIKE
00:55:55.080 --> 00:55:56.060
THIS, BY THE WAY, TWEET IT.
00:55:56.060 --> 00:55:57.010
- JAY: MM-HMM.
00:55:57.010 --> 00:55:57.170
- BIL: PUT IT ON FACEBOOK.
00:55:57.170 --> 00:55:58.070
PUT IT OUT THERE ON INSTAGRAM.
00:55:58.070 --> 00:55:59.020
YOU KNOW, JUST LET PEOPLE KNOW
00:55:59.020 --> 00:56:00.080
THAT THIS IS MAKING AN IMPACT
00:56:00.080 --> 00:56:01.030
IN YOUR LIFE.
00:56:01.030 --> 00:56:02.090
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
00:56:02.090 --> 00:56:02.290
AND SO, PLEASE DO THAT.
00:56:02.290 --> 00:56:05.180
AND, ALSO, GIVE US A CALL, LET
00:56:05.180 --> 00:56:06.190
US KNOW.
00:56:06.190 --> 00:56:07.120
AND, AGAIN, WE JUST WANNA SAY
00:56:07.120 --> 00:56:08.280
THANK YOU TO THE PARTNERS THAT
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:09.190
MAKE SUCH A HUGE, HUGE
00:56:09.190 --> 00:56:10.110
DIFFERENCE.
00:56:10.110 --> 00:56:11.030
AND SPEAKING OF BUILDING
00:56:11.030 --> 00:56:12.270
SOMETHING GREAT, THIS NETWORK
00:56:12.270 --> 00:56:14.080
IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF
00:56:14.080 --> 00:56:15.190
BUILDING SOMETHING GREAT.
00:56:15.190 --> 00:56:17.250
I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT A YOUNG
00:56:17.250 --> 00:56:18.160
COUPLE WHO -- MUCH LIKE YOUR
00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:20.070
PARENTS -- HAD A DREAM DECADES
00:56:20.070 --> 00:56:22.280
AGO THAT EVERYONE TOLD 'EM THEY
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.030
WERE CRAZY AND THEY JUST KEPT
00:56:24.030 --> 00:56:24.240
BUILDING AND KEPT BUILDING,
00:56:24.240 --> 00:56:26.160
THINKING: WE CAN CHANGE ONE
00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:27.280
MORE LIFE.
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.070
WE CAN CHANGE ONE MORE LIFE.
00:56:30.070 --> 00:56:31.260
AND LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE
00:56:31.260 --> 00:56:33.040
THROUGH TBN AND NOW AROUND THE
00:56:33.040 --> 00:56:34.060
WORLD.
00:56:34.060 --> 00:56:35.290
WE'RE SO GRATEFUL JUST FOR THE
00:56:35.290 --> 00:56:37.160
CROUCH FAMILY, FOR MATT AND
00:56:37.160 --> 00:56:39.010
LAURIE CONTINUING THE GREAT
00:56:39.010 --> 00:56:39.250
WORK OF GOD.
00:56:40.150 --> 00:56:43.150
HE IS NOT DONE WITH THIS
00:56:43.150 --> 00:56:44.030
MINISTRY.
00:56:44.030 --> 00:56:44.160
HE IS NOT DONE WITH YOU.
00:56:44.160 --> 00:56:45.190
HE'S GOT A LOT MORE PLANNED FOR
00:56:45.190 --> 00:56:46.250
YOU, AS WELL.
00:56:46.250 --> 00:56:47.100
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
00:56:47.100 --> 00:56:48.000
BEING A PART.
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:49.000
I'D LIKE TO JUST THANK--
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.040
HELLO-- SAY HELLO AND THANK YOU
00:56:51.040 --> 00:56:51.270
TO THE WHOLE AUDIENCE FOR BEING
00:56:51.270 --> 00:56:53.030
HERE.
00:56:53.030 --> 00:56:53.170
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU GUYS BE
00:56:53.170 --> 00:56:54.080
A PART OF THIS TODAY.
00:56:54.080 --> 00:56:54.260
GOD BLESS YOU.
00:56:54.260 --> 00:56:55.160
PLEASE STAY TUNED INTO TBN.
00:56:55.160 --> 00:56:58.050
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.
00:57:00.070 --> 00:57:00.250
GOD BLESS.
00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:01.210

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