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Praise the Lord

Watch Praise the Lord
February 19, 2016
1:27:01

Dwight Thompson hosts Dr. Robert Jeffress, Pastor Todd Pierce, Pastor Lawrence Bishop II, Frank Newsom and music by Mike Purkey

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  • - male announcer: From coast
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  • to coast, and around the world,
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  • it's time to praise the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • let every nation rejoice!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • - announcer: Welcome to
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  • the number one Christian network
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  • in all the world.
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  • Joining us from
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  • the International Production
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  • Center in Dallas, Texas,
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  • are Pastor of First Baptist
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  • Church, Dallas,
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  • Dr. Robert Jeffress;
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  • President of Riding High
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  • Ministries, Todd Pierce;
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  • Co-Pastor of Solid Rock
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  • Church in Monroe, Ohio,
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  • Lawrence Bishop II;
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  • PBR bullfighter, Frank Newsom;
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  • ministering in music,
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  • Mike Purkey.
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  • Ready to take your calls,
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  • prayer partners
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • let every nation rejoice!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • with one mighty voice!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • Praise...
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  • - announcer: Now your host,
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  • international evangelist,
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  • Dwight Thompson!
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • - Dwight Thompson: Praise
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  • the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • We wanna welcome you tonight
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  • from all over the world,
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  • into the studios of
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  • Trinity Broadcasting Network
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  • right here in the Metroplex,
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  • right between Dallas
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  • and Fort Worth.
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  • We're delighted that you're
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  • with us and this is going to
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  • be a dynamic night.
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  • It's really going to be
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  • a interesting night.
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  • We've got Cowboy Night so
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  • I was telling the folks I've
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  • but then we've got
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  • the Pastor of the First Baptist
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  • Church in Dallas,
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  • Dr. Robert Jeffress,
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  • so I thought I'd
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  • put on my tie but I brought
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  • a cowboy hat just in case he
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  • wants to wear it with Cowboy
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  • Night.
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  • We're glad that you're with
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  • us, by the way, in the
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  • studio audience.
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  • And our studio audience is
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  • full.
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  • We're so thankful for that.
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  • Most of all, we're thankful
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  • that the message we preach
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  • tonight changes lives.
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  • It's not in religion, it's
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  • not in an organization.
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  • There's only one name given
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  • under heaven whereby men
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  • might be saved.
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  • That's the name of
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  • Jesus Christ,
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  • the Son of the living God.
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  • The foundation of
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  • Trinity Broadcasting Network
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  • has been and will always be
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  • we preach Jesus Christ.
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  • It is he alone that can take
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  • you from earth to heaven
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  • through the blood of
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  • Jesus Christ,
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  • the Son of the living God.
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  • So we welcome you tonight
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  • from all over the world.
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  • Stay tuned.
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  • It's going to be an exciting
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  • night.
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  • And we ask the Holy Spirit
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  • to lead us and guide us as
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  • never before.
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  • In the second hour of this
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  • program, we're going to have
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  • some cowboys on this program
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  • and just to get ready, I'm
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  • talking about bull riders.
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  • You've either gotta be crazy
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  • or the bravest men in the
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  • world to get on these bulls.
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  • It's gonna be a great night
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  • tonight.
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  • Well, that young man right
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  • over there, he is not only
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  • Pastor of one of the
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  • great--well, actually one of
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  • America's fastest-growing
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  • churches in Lenexa Christian
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  • Center in Lenexa, Kansas.
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  • And I'm talking about
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  • Mike Purkey.
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  • Give him a great big hand.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • He also is the host in
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  • called "Where Miracles
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  • Happen" on TBN's Church
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  • Channel every Tuesday at 8 a.m.
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  • Pacific time and Saturdays
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  • at 3 p.m.
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  • And I'll tell you what.
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  • the gospel, an outstanding
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  • pastor, but he is one of
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  • the most exciting song singers
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  • you'll ever hear in your
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  • lifetime.
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  • You can't sit down so you
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  • might as well remain
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  • standing.
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  • The song he's gonna sing for
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  • us is "I Can Do Anything
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  • Through Christ."
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  • [music]
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  • - Mike Purkey: Hallelujah!
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  • The devil's like a lion,
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  • seeking whom he may devour.
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  • Through the blood of Jesus
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  • I got overcomin' pow'r.
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  • Though he tries to stop me
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  • in the work of the Lord,
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  • I keep pressing on and
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  • consider my source.
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  • My source is Jesus.
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  • He is the great I Am.
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  • Keeps me when I'm walking
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  • through a dry and
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  • desert land.
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  • The rock that I stand on,
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  • my everything and more.
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  • When Satan comes against me,
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  • I consider my source.
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  • Yeah!
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  • The devil would like to
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  • stop you but you get
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  • on your knees and pray.
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  • if you'll just stand
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  • and pray.
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  • Cancel his assignment
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  • in the name of the Lord.
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  • Just get behind me, Satan.
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  • I'll consider my source.
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  • My source is Jesus.
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  • He is the great I Am.
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  • He keeps me when
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  • I'm walking through
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  • a dry and desert land.
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  • my everything and more.
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  • When Satan comes against me
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  • I consider my source.
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  • Whoa, yeah!
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  • [music]
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  • Whoa.
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  • Yup!
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  • Well, the devil's
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  • like a lion,
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  • seeking whom he may devour.
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  • Through the blood of Jesus
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  • I got overcomin' pow'r.
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  • And though he tries to stop
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  • me in the work of the Lord,
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  • I just keep pressing on
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  • and consider my source.
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  • My source is Jesus.
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  • He is the great I Am.
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  • Keeps me when
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  • I'm walking through
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  • a dry and desert land.
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  • Rock that I stand on,
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  • my everything and more.
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  • When Satan comes against me,
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  • I consider my source.
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  • He's my source.
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  • He's my source.
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  • He's my source.
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  • He's my source.
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  • Well, my source is Jesus.
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  • He is the great I Am.
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  • Keeps me when
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  • I'm walking through
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  • a dry and desert land.
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  • The rock that I stand on,
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  • my everything and more.
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  • When Satan comes against me,
  • 00:07:13.050 --> 00:07:15.100
  • I consider my source.
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  • He's the rock I stand on,
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  • my everything and more.
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  • When Satan comes against me,
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  • I consider my source.
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  • Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • - Dwight: You know what
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  • I am kind of--I'm really
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  • convinced of this, that if
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  • what you have doesn't make
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  • you smile,
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  • don't be surprised
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  • if nobody wants it.
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  • You believe that
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  • with all your heart?
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  • If you and I are born again
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  • children of God, we ought to
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  • be the happiest people on
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  • the face of the earth.
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  • And that's what Jesus can
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  • do.
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  • Do you realize that
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  • Trinity Broadcasting Network is
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  • kept on the air around the world
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  • through people that love
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  • the gospel and love to support
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  • this great network and it is
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  • carried on by the love gifts
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  • of every one of you watching
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  • around the world.
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  • Think about this.
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  • Sitting in this room
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  • tonight, all of you, and we
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  • that are on this program,
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  • are speaking to potentially
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  • billions, with a "b," around
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  • the world and it is because
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  • of people just like you
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  • that say, "We wanna reach
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  • the world with the gospel of
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  • the Lord Jesus Christ."
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  • For us that have the
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  • privilege of ministering on
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  • this great program, it's an
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  • honor, it's a privilege
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  • beyond words that I've had
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  • for years to host this
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  • wonderful program.
  • 00:09:01.140 --> 00:09:03.130
  • But it's because of viewers
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  • just like you that say,
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  • "We believe in
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  • Your love gift of any size
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  • this month, going to send
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  • you the book by
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  • Andrew Wommack called,
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  • "Don't Limit God," for
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  • a love gift of any size.
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  • And for a $500 love gift,
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  • the book not only that you
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  • but also "The Founders'
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  • Bible" compiled by
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  • David Barton.
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  • It is an incredible Bible
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  • with a great history of our
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  • country and our forefathers
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  • and their walk with God
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  • and so on.
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  • And that's your love gift
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  • for $500.
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  • In fact, we have a little
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  • clip.
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  • I want you to look at it
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  • right now.
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  • - announcer: More.
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  • God wants to do more in you,
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  • more through you,
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  • and more for you,
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  • if only you'll let him.
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  • - Dwight: All right.
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  • Our first guest tonight is
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  • a man that every one of us
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  • love and respect.
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  • He's a man that has a clear
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  • voice, a clear message,
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  • unwavering, no backing down,
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  • no compromise, just
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  • the Word of the living God.
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  • We don't need a bunch of
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  • puppets standing behind
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  • pulpits.
  • 00:12:19.110 --> 00:12:20.220
  • We need men and women that
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  • will declare the unwavering,
  • 00:12:23.070 --> 00:12:26.070
  • all-powerful truth of
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  • the Word of the living God.
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  • How many believe that?
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  • And such a man is
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  • Dr. Robert Jeffress.
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  • He is the Pastor of the
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  • First Baptist Church in
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  • Dallas.
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  • He is also the host of
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  • the daily radio program,
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  • "Pathway to Victory,"
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  • heard nationwide
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  • on over 764 stations.
  • 00:12:46.030 --> 00:12:49.030
  • His program, television
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  • program, "Pathway to
  • 00:12:51.150 --> 00:12:52.230
  • at 11 a.m. Pacific time,
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  • right here on
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  • Trinity Broadcasting Network.
  • 00:12:59.190 --> 00:13:01.230
  • He has written some
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  • incredible books, but none
  • 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.010
  • more important than the book
  • 00:13:05.010 --> 00:13:06.190
  • simply, "Not All Roads
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  • Lead to Heaven."
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  • Give it up, everybody, for
  • 00:13:15.010 --> 00:13:16.130
  • Dr. Robert Jeffress.
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  • Praise the Lord.
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  • - Robert Jeffress: Thank
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  • you, Dwight.
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  • Good to be with you.
  • 00:13:20.040 --> 00:13:20.240
  • Thank you, all.
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  • - Dwight: Now, I wanna open
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  • up with this right here
  • 00:13:23.110 --> 00:13:24.130
  • because--how vital this is.
  • 00:13:24.130 --> 00:13:27.130
  • June Hunt wanted to comment
  • 00:13:27.130 --> 00:13:29.140
  • about your book, founder of
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  • the CSO Hope for the Heart.
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  • "Every rational, logical
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  • thinker needs the content
  • 00:13:36.060 --> 00:13:38.100
  • of this book because,
  • 00:13:38.100 --> 00:13:40.030
  • in the end, eternity is too long
  • 00:13:40.060 --> 00:13:43.060
  • to be wrong."
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  • And then Dr. Erwin W. Lutzer,
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  • Senior Pastor of
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  • Moody Church in Chicago,
  • 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:53.190
  • "What a shock it will be
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  • someday for many people who
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  • will arrive in eternity only
  • 00:13:57.170 --> 00:13:59.080
  • to discover all roads don't
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  • lead to heaven."
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  • One more.
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  • Your good friend and a man
  • 00:14:05.170 --> 00:14:06.260
  • we all love and respect,
  • 00:14:06.260 --> 00:14:09.020
  • O.S. Hawkins, said, "The Lord's
  • 00:14:09.020 --> 00:14:11.210
  • question in Matthew 16 and
  • 00:14:11.210 --> 00:14:13.210
  • 15 has become the question
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  • of our time.
  • 00:14:15.180 --> 00:14:17.090
  • 'Who do you say that I am?'
  • 00:14:17.090 --> 00:14:19.190
  • Is he, in fact, the way, the
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  • truth, and the life or do we
  • 00:14:21.210 --> 00:14:24.110
  • really believe that no one
  • 00:14:24.110 --> 00:14:26.030
  • comes to the Father unless
  • 00:14:26.030 --> 00:14:28.280
  • they come through him?"
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  • This is in Dr. Jeffress' own
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  • words, he truly believes is
  • 00:14:35.010 --> 00:14:38.010
  • the most important book he
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  • has ever written and what a
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  • time to reach--read it--to
  • 00:14:41.160 --> 00:14:43.240
  • write it, in a culture like
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  • this, when it seems like
  • 00:14:46.050 --> 00:14:47.210
  • everybody says, "Oh, live
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  • any way you want to, believe
  • 00:14:49.280 --> 00:14:52.000
  • what you want to as long as
  • 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.180
  • everybody's trying and doing
  • 00:14:53.180 --> 00:14:55.070
  • our best."
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  • Not so fast.
  • 00:14:56.230 --> 00:14:59.010
  • Better listen to the Word of
  • 00:14:59.010 --> 00:15:00.140
  • God.
  • 00:15:00.140 --> 00:15:01.030
  • Now, here's another thing
  • 00:15:01.030 --> 00:15:01.230
  • you taught me.
  • 00:15:01.230 --> 00:15:02.120
  • I heard your program.
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  • Here's what it is.
  • 00:15:03.140 --> 00:15:04.190
  • I heard your program Sunday.
  • 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:06.010
  • Here's what you said.
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  • From Dallas, if I wanna go
  • 00:15:07.150 --> 00:15:09.120
  • to Houston, the wrong way is
  • 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:12.010
  • to get on Interstate 75
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  • North.
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  • No matter if you don't wanna
  • 00:15:17.110 --> 00:15:18.110
  • go the right way, I'm going
  • 00:15:18.110 --> 00:15:20.070
  • this way.
  • 00:15:20.070 --> 00:15:21.160
  • You can continue on 75 North
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  • but it will never get you to
  • 00:15:24.140 --> 00:15:26.190
  • Houston.
  • 00:15:26.190 --> 00:15:28.170
  • And there's only one way to
  • 00:15:28.170 --> 00:15:30.170
  • heaven.
  • 00:15:30.170 --> 00:15:32.000
  • And now then, we're gonna
  • 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:32.200
  • turn it over to
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  • Dr. Robert Jeffress.
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  • Delighted to have you, sir.
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  • - Robert: Thank you.
  • 00:15:36.020 --> 00:15:37.010
  • Good to be with you.
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  • - Dwight: Preach to us and
  • 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.060
  • tell the world the truth
  • 00:15:39.060 --> 00:15:39.290
  • about getting from earth to
  • 00:15:39.290 --> 00:15:41.180
  • heaven.
  • 00:15:41.180 --> 00:15:42.110
  • - Robert: And let's--we'll
  • 00:15:42.110 --> 00:15:43.040
  • talk a little bit about this
  • 00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:43.290
  • the most important book
  • 00:15:46.160 --> 00:15:47.240
  • I've ever written because it
  • 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:49.040
  • deals with the most
  • 00:15:49.040 --> 00:15:50.040
  • important topic of all.
  • 00:15:50.040 --> 00:15:52.120
  • And that is how can a person
  • 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:53.220
  • And we live in a world that
  • 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:57.010
  • says there are many ways to
  • 00:15:57.010 --> 00:15:58.070
  • heaven, that all religions
  • 00:15:58.070 --> 00:15:59.130
  • are just different routes up
  • 00:15:59.130 --> 00:16:01.040
  • the same mountain of truth
  • 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:02.110
  • that lead to God.
  • 00:16:02.110 --> 00:16:03.190
  • But that's not what Jesus
  • 00:16:03.190 --> 00:16:04.150
  • said.
  • 00:16:04.150 --> 00:16:05.250
  • Jesus said, "I am the way,
  • 00:16:05.250 --> 00:16:07.270
  • the truth, and the life.
  • 00:16:07.270 --> 00:16:09.220
  • No man comes to the Father
  • 00:16:09.220 --> 00:16:11.080
  • but by me."
  • 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:12.220
  • And yet, in spite of what
  • 00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:14.050
  • Jesus has said, Dwight, I
  • 00:16:14.050 --> 00:16:15.280
  • just cannot believe the
  • 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:17.080
  • statistic but it's true, 58%
  • 00:16:17.260 --> 00:16:20.260
  • of evangelical Christians,
  • 00:16:20.260 --> 00:16:23.080
  • not of people in America,
  • 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:24.210
  • 58% of the most conservative
  • 00:16:24.210 --> 00:16:27.030
  • Christians there are, say
  • 00:16:27.030 --> 00:16:29.040
  • there's more than one way to
  • 00:16:29.040 --> 00:16:30.060
  • God, other than faith in
  • 00:16:30.060 --> 00:16:31.140
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 00:16:31.140 --> 00:16:33.030
  • No wonder we're not winning
  • 00:16:33.030 --> 00:16:33.290
  • people to Christ because we
  • 00:16:33.290 --> 00:16:35.150
  • say there are many ways.
  • 00:16:35.150 --> 00:16:36.220
  • If we give this up, we have
  • 00:16:36.220 --> 00:16:37.280
  • given up the gospel of
  • 00:16:37.280 --> 00:16:39.240
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:40.150
  • - Dwight: Everything
  • 00:16:40.150 --> 00:16:41.030
  • implodes on itself.
  • 00:16:41.030 --> 00:16:42.030
  • - Robert: Yeah, think about
  • 00:16:42.030 --> 00:16:42.230
  • this.
  • 00:16:42.230 --> 00:16:43.090
  • I mean, if Jesus was wrong
  • 00:16:43.090 --> 00:16:45.020
  • about that--let's say Jesus
  • 00:16:45.020 --> 00:16:47.020
  • was wrong and there are many
  • 00:16:47.020 --> 00:16:48.080
  • ways to God, then he was
  • 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.000
  • wrong because either he knew
  • 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.040
  • he was wrong and he was
  • 00:16:51.040 --> 00:16:53.030
  • lying to us or he really
  • 00:16:53.030 --> 00:16:55.050
  • didn't know what he was
  • 00:16:55.050 --> 00:16:56.090
  • talking about.
  • 00:16:56.090 --> 00:16:56.270
  • Either way, he is
  • 00:16:56.270 --> 00:16:58.080
  • disqualified from being
  • 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.180
  • the Son of God.
  • 00:16:59.180 --> 00:17:00.280
  • And if Jesus Christ is not
  • 00:17:00.280 --> 00:17:02.020
  • the Son of God, then when he
  • 00:17:02.020 --> 00:17:03.160
  • died he didn't die for your
  • 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:04.150
  • sins and my sins, he died
  • 00:17:04.150 --> 00:17:05.210
  • for his own sins.
  • 00:17:05.210 --> 00:17:07.080
  • And if he died for his own
  • 00:17:07.080 --> 00:17:08.090
  • sins, then you and I are
  • 00:17:08.090 --> 00:17:09.150
  • left in our sins and damned
  • 00:17:09.150 --> 00:17:10.240
  • to hell for ever.
  • 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.020
  • That is the implication of
  • 00:17:12.020 --> 00:17:13.100
  • believing there's more than
  • 00:17:13.100 --> 00:17:14.210
  • one way to God.
  • 00:17:14.210 --> 00:17:16.110
  • And you know, a lot of
  • 00:17:16.110 --> 00:17:17.200
  • people, Dwight, say, "Well,
  • 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.220
  • I just can't accept this
  • 00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:22.020
  • because it is intolerant
  • 00:17:22.020 --> 00:17:23.230
  • and hateful to tell a Muslim,
  • 00:17:23.230 --> 00:17:25.260
  • to tell a Hindu, to tell
  • 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:28.050
  • a Buddhist, to tell anyone
  • 00:17:28.050 --> 00:17:29.250
  • that Jesus Christ is the
  • 00:17:29.250 --> 00:17:31.180
  • only way to heaven and their
  • 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:32.180
  • religion is wrong."
  • 00:17:32.180 --> 00:17:34.090
  • How many of you have ever
  • 00:17:34.090 --> 00:17:35.020
  • heard that before?
  • 00:17:35.020 --> 00:17:36.020
  • It's hateful to insist that
  • 00:17:36.020 --> 00:17:37.160
  • there's more and there's
  • 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.270
  • only one way to God?
  • 00:17:38.270 --> 00:17:39.290
  • I'll tell you the experience
  • 00:17:39.290 --> 00:17:41.110
  • that led me to write this
  • 00:17:41.110 --> 00:17:42.070
  • book.
  • 00:17:42.070 --> 00:17:43.180
  • It was really a seminal
  • 00:17:43.180 --> 00:17:44.150
  • experience.
  • 00:17:44.150 --> 00:17:45.200
  • A few years ago I was on an
  • 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.200
  • airplane and we were getting
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  • ready to take off and the
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  • guy was seated next to me
  • 00:17:49.190 --> 00:17:50.230
  • and he asked me the
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  • question.
  • 00:17:52.140 --> 00:17:53.040
  • He said, "What do you do for
  • 00:17:53.040 --> 00:17:54.050
  • a living?"
  • 00:17:54.050 --> 00:17:55.170
  • Now, if I'm busy or don't
  • 00:17:55.170 --> 00:17:57.250
  • feel like talking, I answer,
  • 00:17:57.250 --> 00:18:00.110
  • "Southern Baptist preacher,"
  • 00:18:00.110 --> 00:18:02.240
  • and, trust me, that cuts off
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  • all the conversation.
  • 00:18:04.170 --> 00:18:06.150
  • Nobody wants to talk to a
  • 00:18:06.150 --> 00:18:07.220
  • Southern Baptist preacher
  • 00:18:07.220 --> 00:18:08.260
  • for 3 hours.
  • 00:18:08.260 --> 00:18:10.170
  • But something told me and I
  • 00:18:10.170 --> 00:18:12.020
  • believe it was God that I
  • 00:18:12.020 --> 00:18:13.270
  • needed to talk to this guy.
  • 00:18:13.270 --> 00:18:15.270
  • And so I said, "Well, I'm a
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  • writer."
  • 00:18:16.250 --> 00:18:18.030
  • And that's technically true,
  • 00:18:18.030 --> 00:18:19.110
  • I am a writer.
  • 00:18:19.110 --> 00:18:20.210
  • And so he said, "Oh,
  • 00:18:20.210 --> 00:18:21.100
  • really?"
  • 00:18:21.100 --> 00:18:22.010
  • He said, "What kind of books
  • 00:18:22.010 --> 00:18:22.220
  • do you write?"
  • 00:18:22.220 --> 00:18:24.120
  • And I said, "Well, I write
  • 00:18:24.120 --> 00:18:25.060
  • Christian books."
  • 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:26.260
  • And he said, "Oh.
  • 00:18:26.260 --> 00:18:28.030
  • I used to be a Christian but
  • 00:18:28.030 --> 00:18:30.220
  • I gave it up."
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  • - Dwight: Used to be?
  • 00:18:32.120 --> 00:18:33.070
  • Uh-huh.
  • 00:18:33.070 --> 00:18:33.260
  • - Robert: And I said,
  • 00:18:33.260 --> 00:18:34.170
  • "Well, what caused you to
  • 00:18:34.170 --> 00:18:35.070
  • give up Christianity?"
  • 00:18:35.070 --> 00:18:36.170
  • And this is what he said.
  • 00:18:36.170 --> 00:18:37.260
  • He said, "I could never
  • 00:18:37.260 --> 00:18:39.080
  • believe in a God who was so
  • 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:41.160
  • intolerant and hateful to
  • 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.130
  • insist that there is only
  • 00:18:43.130 --> 00:18:44.230
  • one way to heaven and so I
  • 00:18:44.230 --> 00:18:46.060
  • just gave it up."
  • 00:18:46.060 --> 00:18:47.200
  • So, we were flying on the
  • 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:49.060
  • way to Seattle and I was
  • 00:18:49.060 --> 00:18:50.140
  • asking God to give me wisdom
  • 00:18:50.140 --> 00:18:52.070
  • what to say.
  • 00:18:52.070 --> 00:18:53.120
  • And so I said to him,
  • 00:18:53.120 --> 00:18:54.270
  • "Suppose that this airplane
  • 00:18:54.270 --> 00:18:56.230
  • were to crash suddenly."
  • 00:18:56.230 --> 00:18:58.270
  • The flight attendant started
  • 00:18:58.270 --> 00:19:00.140
  • giving me a dirty stare so I
  • 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:02.050
  • lowered my preacher voice to
  • 00:19:02.050 --> 00:19:03.250
  • regular conversation.
  • 00:19:03.250 --> 00:19:05.150
  • I said, "Suppose this
  • 00:19:05.150 --> 00:19:06.260
  • airplane were to crash and
  • 00:19:06.260 --> 00:19:08.140
  • the cabin were to fill with
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  • smoke and people were
  • 00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:13.100
  • groping in the darkness,
  • 00:19:13.100 --> 00:19:14.280
  • trying to find their way out
  • 00:19:14.280 --> 00:19:16.000
  • of the burning aircraft, and
  • 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:17.250
  • the flight attendant stood
  • 00:19:17.250 --> 00:19:19.060
  • at the front of the airplane
  • 00:19:19.060 --> 00:19:20.220
  • waving a flashlight saying,
  • 00:19:20.220 --> 00:19:22.140
  • 'Follow me.
  • 00:19:22.140 --> 00:19:23.260
  • There's one way out of this
  • 00:19:23.260 --> 00:19:24.270
  • airplane.'
  • 00:19:24.270 --> 00:19:26.080
  • Would you say she was being
  • 00:19:26.080 --> 00:19:27.220
  • hateful because she said
  • 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:29.110
  • there's only one way out of
  • 00:19:29.110 --> 00:19:30.230
  • this airplane?
  • 00:19:30.230 --> 00:19:32.130
  • Would you call her
  • 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:33.010
  • intolerant because she
  • 00:19:33.010 --> 00:19:34.060
  • insisted that the only way
  • 00:19:34.060 --> 00:19:35.280
  • to safety was to follow her?
  • 00:19:35.280 --> 00:19:37.170
  • No, the only reason she
  • 00:19:37.170 --> 00:19:39.020
  • would say, 'Follow me,' is
  • 00:19:39.020 --> 00:19:40.290
  • because, in fact, there was
  • 00:19:40.290 --> 00:19:42.120
  • only one way out of the
  • 00:19:42.120 --> 00:19:43.210
  • burning airplane and the
  • 00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:45.080
  • only way she would do that
  • 00:19:45.080 --> 00:19:46.150
  • and reason is because she
  • 00:19:46.150 --> 00:19:47.230
  • loved you and didn't wanna
  • 00:19:47.230 --> 00:19:49.010
  • see you perish."
  • 00:19:49.010 --> 00:19:50.070
  • I said, "It's the same way
  • 00:19:50.070 --> 00:19:51.190
  • when we tell people there's
  • 00:19:51.190 --> 00:19:53.160
  • only one way to God."
  • 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.050
  • And that's what I want
  • 00:19:55.050 --> 00:19:57.050
  • broadcast to know tonight.
  • 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:00.230
  • When Jesus says, "There
  • 00:20:00.230 --> 00:20:02.260
  • is only one way to heaven,"
  • 00:20:02.260 --> 00:20:04.050
  • and when we, as his followers,
  • 00:20:04.050 --> 00:20:06.290
  • repeat what he said,
  • 00:20:06.290 --> 00:20:08.250
  • we do that not because
  • 00:20:08.250 --> 00:20:10.150
  • we hate people and we wanna
  • 00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:12.000
  • keep them out of heaven.
  • 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.010
  • It's because we want to
  • 00:20:14.010 --> 00:20:15.000
  • invite them into heaven.
  • 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:17.020
  • And this is the only way
  • 00:20:17.020 --> 00:20:18.110
  • Jesus said to do it.
  • 00:20:18.110 --> 00:20:19.220
  • And so that's what this
  • 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:20.140
  • book, "Not All Roads Leads
  • 00:20:20.140 --> 00:20:21.190
  • It's designed to equip
  • 00:20:23.210 --> 00:20:24.220
  • Christians to understand why
  • 00:20:24.220 --> 00:20:26.140
  • this belief is so important.
  • 00:20:26.140 --> 00:20:28.270
  • It's to equip Christians to
  • 00:20:28.270 --> 00:20:30.170
  • be able to share with other
  • 00:20:30.170 --> 00:20:31.270
  • Christians in a
  • 00:20:31.270 --> 00:20:33.070
  • compassionate but bold way
  • 00:20:33.070 --> 00:20:35.080
  • why Jesus is the only way
  • 00:20:35.080 --> 00:20:37.040
  • and it's a great book that
  • 00:20:37.040 --> 00:20:38.250
  • you can give to your friends
  • 00:20:38.250 --> 00:20:40.120
  • who may not be Christians
  • 00:20:40.120 --> 00:20:41.170
  • who really may be stumbling
  • 00:20:41.170 --> 00:20:42.240
  • over Jesus Christ.
  • 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.140
  • It's a great way to share
  • 00:20:44.140 --> 00:20:45.080
  • your faith.
  • 00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:46.100
  • - Dwight: Oh, this is
  • 00:20:46.100 --> 00:20:47.090
  • powerful.
  • 00:20:47.090 --> 00:20:47.280
  • Now, what about the people
  • 00:20:47.280 --> 00:20:49.020
  • in your book, you deal with
  • 00:20:49.020 --> 00:20:50.090
  • this, that have never heard
  • 00:20:50.090 --> 00:20:52.100
  • the gospel?
  • 00:20:52.100 --> 00:20:54.030
  • - Robert: Yeah.
  • 00:20:54.030 --> 00:20:54.280
  • You know, that's one of the
  • 00:20:54.280 --> 00:20:56.020
  • most frequent objections,
  • 00:20:56.020 --> 00:20:57.210
  • Dwight, to this idea that
  • 00:20:57.210 --> 00:20:59.090
  • there is only one way to
  • 00:20:59.090 --> 00:21:00.190
  • heaven.
  • 00:21:00.190 --> 00:21:01.060
  • The biggest questions
  • 00:21:01.060 --> 00:21:02.030
  • non-Christians have is,
  • 00:21:02.030 --> 00:21:03.240
  • "Well, what about those
  • 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:05.000
  • who have never heard
  • 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:05.290
  • about Jesus?
  • 00:21:05.290 --> 00:21:07.060
  • Are you saying they're gonna
  • 00:21:07.060 --> 00:21:08.100
  • be condemned to hell because
  • 00:21:08.100 --> 00:21:09.210
  • they've never heard about
  • 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:10.170
  • Jesus?"
  • 00:21:10.170 --> 00:21:11.100
  • Have you all ever wondered
  • 00:21:11.100 --> 00:21:12.070
  • about that before?
  • 00:21:12.070 --> 00:21:13.120
  • What happens to billions
  • 00:21:13.120 --> 00:21:15.080
  • of people around the world
  • 00:21:15.080 --> 00:21:16.290
  • who have never heard
  • 00:21:16.290 --> 00:21:17.290
  • about Jesus?
  • 00:21:17.290 --> 00:21:19.080
  • Now, I want you to listen to
  • 00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:19.290
  • this very, very, very
  • 00:21:19.290 --> 00:21:21.190
  • carefully.
  • 00:21:21.190 --> 00:21:22.210
  • Nobody will go to hell for
  • 00:21:22.210 --> 00:21:25.050
  • rejecting a gospel they've
  • 00:21:25.050 --> 00:21:27.030
  • never heard.
  • 00:21:27.030 --> 00:21:28.190
  • Nobody goes to hell for
  • 00:21:28.190 --> 00:21:30.000
  • rejecting a gospel they've
  • 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.030
  • never heard.
  • 00:21:31.030 --> 00:21:32.140
  • People will go to hell for
  • 00:21:32.140 --> 00:21:34.000
  • rejecting the revelation
  • 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:35.260
  • that God has given them.
  • 00:21:35.260 --> 00:21:37.180
  • And you know, when you turn
  • 00:21:37.180 --> 00:21:38.210
  • in the Bible to Romans
  • 00:21:38.210 --> 00:21:40.020
  • chapter 1, Paul said, "For
  • 00:21:40.020 --> 00:21:42.100
  • the whole creation testifies
  • 00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:46.040
  • of the existence of God.
  • 00:21:46.040 --> 00:21:48.010
  • For since the very
  • 00:21:48.010 --> 00:21:49.030
  • beginning, people have been
  • 00:21:49.030 --> 00:21:50.150
  • able to know by looking at
  • 00:21:50.150 --> 00:21:52.130
  • creation of God's power and
  • 00:21:52.130 --> 00:21:54.240
  • his attributes.
  • 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.070
  • And so," Paul says,
  • 00:21:56.070 --> 00:21:57.250
  • "everyone is without
  • 00:21:57.250 --> 00:21:58.290
  • excuse."
  • 00:21:58.290 --> 00:22:00.060
  • Anybody can look into the
  • 00:22:00.060 --> 00:22:01.210
  • heavens and know, "I didn't
  • 00:22:01.210 --> 00:22:02.270
  • create that.
  • 00:22:02.270 --> 00:22:04.130
  • There must be a creator."
  • 00:22:04.130 --> 00:22:06.060
  • Take this 12-year-old girl
  • 00:22:06.060 --> 00:22:08.150
  • living in Syria who has
  • 00:22:08.150 --> 00:22:10.000
  • never heard about Jesus,
  • 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:11.130
  • who's never heard the gospel.
  • 00:22:11.130 --> 00:22:13.040
  • She can look into a heaven
  • 00:22:13.040 --> 00:22:14.270
  • and know there is a God.
  • 00:22:14.270 --> 00:22:16.180
  • And while that information
  • 00:22:16.180 --> 00:22:18.180
  • is not enough to save her,
  • 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:21.090
  • it is enough, if rejected,
  • 00:22:21.090 --> 00:22:23.020
  • to condemn her.
  • 00:22:23.020 --> 00:22:24.170
  • And the Bible says most of
  • 00:22:24.170 --> 00:22:26.120
  • humanity has looked at that
  • 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:28.120
  • information, that revelation of
  • 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:29.250
  • God, and they have rejected it
  • 00:22:29.250 --> 00:22:32.170
  • and instead they have created
  • 00:22:32.170 --> 00:22:34.210
  • a God of their own image.
  • 00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:35.170
  • And that's what all false
  • 00:22:35.170 --> 00:22:36.120
  • religions are.
  • 00:22:36.120 --> 00:22:37.080
  • They are a God of our
  • 00:22:37.080 --> 00:22:38.230
  • imagination, rather than the God
  • 00:22:38.230 --> 00:22:40.120
  • of the Bible.
  • 00:22:40.120 --> 00:22:41.120
  • And so people who reject the
  • 00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:43.190
  • information nature gives about
  • 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:45.160
  • they are condemned.
  • 00:22:48.010 --> 00:22:49.090
  • But let's say that little
  • 00:22:49.090 --> 00:22:50.250
  • 12-year-old girl, as she looks
  • 00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:52.090
  • into heaven, says,
  • 00:22:52.090 --> 00:22:53.230
  • "You know what?
  • 00:22:53.230 --> 00:22:54.180
  • I believe there's a God and
  • 00:22:54.180 --> 00:22:56.160
  • I want to know him."
  • 00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:57.290
  • Here's what we can know for
  • 00:22:57.290 --> 00:22:59.050
  • sure, Dwight.
  • 00:22:59.050 --> 00:23:00.080
  • God will send to that little
  • 00:23:00.080 --> 00:23:02.160
  • girl the information she needs
  • 00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:04.140
  • God will send anyone living
  • 00:23:07.090 --> 00:23:09.090
  • anywhere who really wants to
  • 00:23:09.090 --> 00:23:11.020
  • know him the information about
  • 00:23:11.020 --> 00:23:12.240
  • Jesus they need to know to be
  • 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:14.140
  • saved.
  • 00:23:14.140 --> 00:23:15.120
  • Now, people say, "Pastor, do you
  • 00:23:15.120 --> 00:23:16.250
  • really believe that?
  • 00:23:16.250 --> 00:23:18.120
  • Do you believe somebody living
  • 00:23:18.120 --> 00:23:20.110
  • over there in China who doesn't
  • 00:23:20.110 --> 00:23:22.030
  • have a Bible, somebody living in
  • 00:23:22.030 --> 00:23:24.060
  • Africa who's never heard of
  • 00:23:24.060 --> 00:23:25.220
  • Jesus, do you believe God's
  • 00:23:25.220 --> 00:23:27.050
  • gonna get the gospel to them?"
  • 00:23:27.050 --> 00:23:29.000
  • I certainly do and here's why.
  • 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.030
  • Look at the Scriptures.
  • 00:23:31.030 --> 00:23:32.230
  • In Acts chapter 8, you had the
  • 00:23:32.230 --> 00:23:34.190
  • first African who was ever
  • 00:23:34.190 --> 00:23:36.190
  • saved.
  • 00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:37.170
  • He was from Ethiopia.
  • 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:39.070
  • He was riding in a chariot,
  • 00:23:39.070 --> 00:23:40.250
  • having gone to Jerusalem to
  • 00:23:40.250 --> 00:23:42.080
  • worship the true God, and as he
  • 00:23:42.080 --> 00:23:44.040
  • opened the scrolls of Isaiah, he
  • 00:23:44.040 --> 00:23:46.080
  • began to read and he didn't
  • 00:23:46.080 --> 00:23:47.190
  • understand what he was reading.
  • 00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:49.070
  • What did God do?
  • 00:23:49.070 --> 00:23:50.130
  • He didn't say, "Well, you're
  • 00:23:50.130 --> 00:23:51.210
  • reading the Old Testament.
  • 00:23:51.210 --> 00:23:53.020
  • That's good enough.
  • 00:23:53.020 --> 00:23:53.240
  • You're saved."
  • 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:54.210
  • No, he miraculously sent
  • 00:23:54.210 --> 00:23:56.170
  • Philip, the evangelist, to come
  • 00:23:56.170 --> 00:23:58.190
  • alongside that Ethiopian eunuch
  • 00:23:58.190 --> 00:24:00.150
  • and preach to him Jesus so he
  • 00:24:00.150 --> 00:24:02.290
  • was saved.
  • 00:24:02.290 --> 00:24:04.140
  • Or think about Cornelius in Acts
  • 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:06.150
  • 10, the Roman centurion.
  • 00:24:06.150 --> 00:24:08.040
  • Here is a Gentile.
  • 00:24:08.040 --> 00:24:10.030
  • He didn't know Jesus but the
  • 00:24:10.030 --> 00:24:12.040
  • Bible said, "He worshiped
  • 00:24:12.040 --> 00:24:13.200
  • the God of Israel."
  • 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.120
  • He prayed regularly.
  • 00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:17.100
  • He gave his money to the poor.
  • 00:24:17.100 --> 00:24:19.130
  • Now, most people would think
  • 00:24:19.130 --> 00:24:20.240
  • today, if you have a guy who
  • 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:21.290
  • loves God, prays regularly, and
  • 00:24:21.290 --> 00:24:23.280
  • gives to the poor, that's enough
  • 00:24:23.280 --> 00:24:25.100
  • to be saved.
  • 00:24:25.100 --> 00:24:26.070
  • It wasn't enough but God saw his
  • 00:24:26.070 --> 00:24:28.280
  • heart and he miraculously sent
  • 00:24:28.280 --> 00:24:31.040
  • the apostle Peter to preach to
  • 00:24:31.040 --> 00:24:33.040
  • him Jesus so that he could be
  • 00:24:33.040 --> 00:24:35.140
  • saved.
  • 00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:36.180
  • And what I'm saying tonight is I
  • 00:24:36.180 --> 00:24:38.160
  • believe when God sees a person
  • 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.220
  • who wants to know him, he will
  • 00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:42.190
  • do whatever is necessary to get
  • 00:24:42.190 --> 00:24:45.000
  • the gospel to him.
  • 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.130
  • And the way God gets the gospel
  • 00:24:46.130 --> 00:24:48.080
  • to him may be through
  • 00:24:48.080 --> 00:24:49.270
  • a missionary.
  • 00:24:49.270 --> 00:24:50.220
  • It may be through the Gideons.
  • 00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:53.220
  • It very well may be through
  • 00:24:53.220 --> 00:24:55.000
  • Trinity Broadcasting Network to
  • 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.210
  • get the message into the hearts
  • 00:24:57.210 --> 00:24:59.160
  • of those people so that they can
  • 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.100
  • be saved.
  • 00:25:01.110 --> 00:25:04.110
  • Don't worry.
  • 00:25:04.110 --> 00:25:05.130
  • Don't worry about God getting
  • 00:25:05.130 --> 00:25:07.160
  • the gospel to people.
  • 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:08.290
  • God is much more interested in
  • 00:25:08.290 --> 00:25:10.260
  • that 12-year-old Syrian girl
  • 00:25:10.260 --> 00:25:12.290
  • being saved than you and I are.
  • 00:25:12.290 --> 00:25:14.280
  • God will get the gospel to that
  • 00:25:14.280 --> 00:25:17.100
  • person and he may be using
  • 00:25:17.100 --> 00:25:19.040
  • people like you and me to do it.
  • 00:25:19.040 --> 00:25:21.110
  • That's the answer to that
  • 00:25:21.110 --> 00:25:22.190
  • question.
  • 00:25:22.190 --> 00:25:24.250
  • - Dwight: Yeah, Pastor, let me
  • 00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:25.170
  • just throw this out.
  • 00:25:25.170 --> 00:25:28.070
  • Last Sunday, I was preaching in
  • 00:25:28.070 --> 00:25:30.010
  • a church and I had listened to
  • 00:25:30.010 --> 00:25:32.280
  • you on the radio on my way.
  • 00:25:33.070 --> 00:25:36.070
  • And something hit me so strong.
  • 00:25:36.120 --> 00:25:39.120
  • It's a illustration you used
  • 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:41.100
  • about moving the fence.
  • 00:25:42.070 --> 00:25:45.070
  • And here's the thing, when I got
  • 00:25:45.070 --> 00:25:47.100
  • through preaching and this has
  • 00:25:47.100 --> 00:25:49.040
  • almost been a theme of my
  • 00:25:49.040 --> 00:25:51.220
  • preaching for a long, long
  • 00:25:51.220 --> 00:25:53.150
  • period of time that I believe is
  • 00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:56.120
  • the most important question of
  • 00:25:56.120 --> 00:25:57.190
  • our time.
  • 00:25:57.190 --> 00:25:58.240
  • Just like what O.S. Hawkins
  • 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.200
  • referred to in his moment
  • 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.030
  • in your book when he
  • 00:26:02.030 --> 00:26:03.260
  • talks about I believe it's the
  • 00:26:03.260 --> 00:26:05.150
  • question of the hour in Matthew
  • 00:26:05.150 --> 00:26:07.260
  • 16, in verse 15, and, "Who do
  • 00:26:08.080 --> 00:26:11.080
  • you say that I am?
  • 00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:13.050
  • And so I was preaching on it
  • 00:26:13.050 --> 00:26:15.220
  • this past Sunday.
  • 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:17.040
  • And so the place responded to it
  • 00:26:17.040 --> 00:26:20.030
  • and it--we're going along the
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  • lines we're talking about
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  • tonight.
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  • But a man walked up to me after
  • 00:26:24.210 --> 00:26:26.240
  • the service and this happened
  • 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:29.010
  • several times in a similar way
  • 00:26:29.010 --> 00:26:30.270
  • but here is what he said to me.
  • 00:26:30.280 --> 00:26:33.280
  • He said, "I believe what you
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  • preached.
  • 00:26:36.230 --> 00:26:38.070
  • But," he said, "we that believe
  • 00:26:38.070 --> 00:26:40.030
  • that are barraged now, that we
  • 00:26:40.030 --> 00:26:43.010
  • needed to hear it.
  • 00:26:43.010 --> 00:26:44.280
  • We know what you're saying is
  • 00:26:44.280 --> 00:26:46.220
  • true and we believe it but it
  • 00:26:46.220 --> 00:26:49.210
  • becomes exhausting when we are
  • 00:26:50.080 --> 00:26:53.080
  • hammered by this in the
  • 00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:55.030
  • workplace to where, finally,
  • 00:26:55.030 --> 00:26:57.150
  • you're hammered so much you get
  • 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.180
  • tired and weary to where for
  • 00:27:02.040 --> 00:27:05.040
  • just," I remember him saying,
  • 00:27:05.040 --> 00:27:08.000
  • "just like a flicker of
  • 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.090
  • a moment, you know, you get
  • 00:27:10.090 --> 00:27:13.020
  • tired and you go, 'Well, maybe,
  • 00:27:13.020 --> 00:27:14.070
  • there's something to that,'
  • 00:27:14.120 --> 00:27:17.120
  • that," he said, "we need to hear
  • 00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:19.250
  • what we heard this morning that
  • 00:27:19.250 --> 00:27:22.090
  • you preached, Dwight."
  • 00:27:22.090 --> 00:27:24.270
  • And I'm thinking about
  • 00:27:24.270 --> 00:27:25.260
  • multiply that by the millions
  • 00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:28.140
  • who are hammered night and day,
  • 00:27:28.180 --> 00:27:31.180
  • "Really?
  • 00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:32.220
  • You really believe that that guy
  • 00:27:32.220 --> 00:27:35.090
  • over there now, if you look for
  • 00:27:35.090 --> 00:27:37.240
  • where that cross was, you can
  • 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:39.280
  • smell the fumes from the bus
  • 00:27:39.280 --> 00:27:41.050
  • station down below from that
  • 00:27:41.050 --> 00:27:42.240
  • mount, you really believe
  • 00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.140
  • 2.000 years ago that that deal
  • 00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:47.090
  • happened and that's what we put
  • 00:27:47.090 --> 00:27:49.130
  • our faith in?"
  • 00:27:49.130 --> 00:27:50.220
  • That you get tired and
  • 00:27:50.220 --> 00:27:52.030
  • exhausted defending that.
  • 00:27:52.230 --> 00:27:55.230
  • But, Pastor, I've often made
  • 00:27:55.230 --> 00:27:58.160
  • this statement: I believe the
  • 00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:01.010
  • greatest crowd that's ever going
  • 00:28:01.010 --> 00:28:03.170
  • to attend church will be a day
  • 00:28:03.170 --> 00:28:05.110
  • after the Coming of the Lord.
  • 00:28:05.110 --> 00:28:07.140
  • And the clergy that stood behind
  • 00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:09.280
  • that desk and stepped in line
  • 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.240
  • with all of this anything goes
  • 00:28:13.240 --> 00:28:15.260
  • and any road is okay, we're
  • 00:28:16.130 --> 00:28:19.130
  • talking life and death, Pastor.
  • 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:22.200
  • Life and death.
  • 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:23.100
  • - Robert: And Dwight, if we
  • 00:28:23.100 --> 00:28:24.190
  • stutter and stammer and waffle
  • 00:28:24.190 --> 00:28:27.060
  • and waver as Christians, there
  • 00:28:27.060 --> 00:28:29.120
  • is no hope for the world.
  • 00:28:29.120 --> 00:28:30.220
  • Jesus said, "You," talking to
  • 00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:33.120
  • us, "you are the light of the
  • 00:28:33.120 --> 00:28:35.030
  • world."
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  • We cannot give up this most
  • 00:28:36.030 --> 00:28:38.080
  • important belief.
  • 00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:39.230
  • And you know, 1 Peter 3:15 says
  • 00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:41.280
  • we need to be ready to give an
  • 00:28:41.280 --> 00:28:43.190
  • answer to everyone who asks us
  • 00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:45.220
  • for the hope that is within us.
  • 00:28:45.220 --> 00:28:47.220
  • And that's why I wrote this
  • 00:28:47.220 --> 00:28:48.180
  • book, "Not All Roads Lead to
  • 00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:50.190
  • Heaven," to arm Christians with
  • 00:28:50.190 --> 00:28:53.160
  • the ammunition they need to be
  • 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.150
  • able to answer those questions,
  • 00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:56.270
  • people at school.
  • 00:28:59.040 --> 00:29:00.170
  • You know, most parents or
  • 00:29:00.170 --> 00:29:01.290
  • grandparents wouldn't have
  • 00:29:01.290 --> 00:29:03.060
  • a clue as to how to answer
  • 00:29:03.060 --> 00:29:04.280
  • the question of their children
  • 00:29:04.280 --> 00:29:07.000
  • or their grandchildren,
  • 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.120
  • "Well, what about Muslims?
  • 00:29:08.120 --> 00:29:09.270
  • What about people who love God
  • 00:29:09.270 --> 00:29:11.130
  • but call him by another name?
  • 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:13.060
  • Or what happens to children who
  • 00:29:13.060 --> 00:29:14.270
  • are too young to accept Christ?"
  • 00:29:14.270 --> 00:29:17.140
  • Most people don't know
  • 00:29:17.140 --> 00:29:18.100
  • the answers to that question.
  • 00:29:18.100 --> 00:29:20.000
  • Well, I've given the answers
  • 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.080
  • in this book so that we can be
  • 00:29:21.080 --> 00:29:23.080
  • emboldened with the Spirit of
  • 00:29:23.080 --> 00:29:25.020
  • God and with the truth of God's
  • 00:29:25.020 --> 00:29:26.190
  • Word to be ready to give that
  • 00:29:26.190 --> 00:29:28.090
  • And you know, one thing I want
  • 00:29:30.230 --> 00:29:32.160
  • you to think about, everybody to
  • 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:33.230
  • think about.
  • 00:29:33.230 --> 00:29:35.060
  • If there is another way to God,
  • 00:29:35.060 --> 00:29:37.210
  • other than faith
  • 00:29:37.210 --> 00:29:38.180
  • in Jesus Christ,
  • 00:29:38.180 --> 00:29:40.030
  • then the death of Jesus Christ
  • 00:29:40.030 --> 00:29:41.240
  • was a horrible mistake.
  • 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.090
  • It was totally unnecessary.
  • 00:29:44.090 --> 00:29:46.140
  • Do you remember the night before
  • 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:47.250
  • he was crucified, he was in the
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  • Garden and many of us have been
  • 00:29:49.050 --> 00:29:50.140
  • to that Garden before, when he
  • 00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:51.220
  • knelt down before God and he
  • 00:29:51.220 --> 00:29:53.200
  • cried out, "Lord, if there is
  • 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.270
  • any way, let this cup
  • 00:29:55.270 --> 00:29:58.150
  • pass from me."
  • 00:29:58.150 --> 00:30:01.100
  • It's not just the physical
  • 00:30:01.100 --> 00:30:03.070
  • agony of the cross he didn't
  • 00:30:03.070 --> 00:30:05.090
  • want to experience.
  • 00:30:05.090 --> 00:30:06.120
  • It was the spiritual agony of
  • 00:30:06.120 --> 00:30:08.060
  • bearing the sins of the world.
  • 00:30:08.060 --> 00:30:09.220
  • "Lord, please provide another
  • 00:30:09.220 --> 00:30:11.010
  • way."
  • 00:30:11.010 --> 00:30:13.100
  • But heaven was silent because
  • 00:30:13.100 --> 00:30:15.070
  • there was no other way.
  • 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.160
  • That's why Jesus said, "I am
  • 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.240
  • the way, the only way."
  • 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.220
  • You know, Jesus is the only
  • 00:30:24.100 --> 00:30:27.100
  • person who has been to the other
  • 00:30:27.100 --> 00:30:29.050
  • side, beyond the grave, who
  • 00:30:29.050 --> 00:30:32.010
  • knows what's there and has come
  • 00:30:32.010 --> 00:30:33.140
  • back to tell us not only what
  • 00:30:33.140 --> 00:30:35.290
  • awaits us but how to get to what
  • 00:30:35.290 --> 00:30:37.190
  • awaits us.
  • 00:30:37.190 --> 00:30:38.190
  • And that's why he said, "I am
  • 00:30:38.190 --> 00:30:40.070
  • the way, the truth, and the
  • 00:30:40.070 --> 00:30:41.050
  • life."
  • 00:30:41.050 --> 00:30:42.050
  • And that's why I believe,
  • 00:30:42.050 --> 00:30:43.230
  • Dwight, this is the single most
  • 00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:45.090
  • important belief that Christians
  • 00:30:45.090 --> 00:30:46.250
  • need to reclaim.
  • 00:30:46.250 --> 00:30:47.280
  • We're losing this belief and, if
  • 00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:50.070
  • we lose it, there's no reason to
  • 00:30:50.070 --> 00:30:51.170
  • have church anymore.
  • 00:30:51.170 --> 00:30:52.260
  • There's no reason to have
  • 00:30:52.260 --> 00:30:54.000
  • missions or gospel.
  • 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:55.100
  • TBN ought to shut down tomorrow
  • 00:30:55.100 --> 00:30:57.110
  • if there are many ways to God.
  • 00:30:57.110 --> 00:30:58.210
  • But the reason we keep doing
  • 00:30:58.210 --> 00:31:00.140
  • what we're doing and the reason
  • 00:31:00.140 --> 00:31:02.120
  • Paul was willing to be beaten
  • 00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:04.140
  • and imprisoned and beheaded was
  • 00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:06.180
  • he believed, as did all the
  • 00:31:06.180 --> 00:31:08.280
  • early church, that there was
  • 00:31:08.280 --> 00:31:10.120
  • only one way to be saved.
  • 00:31:10.120 --> 00:31:11.250
  • - Dwight: One way to be saved.
  • 00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:13.100
  • How many believe that with all
  • 00:31:13.100 --> 00:31:14.060
  • your heart, you believe it?
  • 00:31:15.050 --> 00:31:18.050
  • Think about the absolute
  • 00:31:19.040 --> 00:31:22.040
  • responsibility that we that
  • 00:31:22.040 --> 00:31:23.250
  • preach the gospel of the Lord
  • 00:31:23.250 --> 00:31:26.080
  • Jesus Christ have to the Word of
  • 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:30.160
  • the living God.
  • 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:31.190
  • Just because the culture has
  • 00:31:32.040 --> 00:31:35.040
  • changed and anything goes, think
  • 00:31:36.140 --> 00:31:39.140
  • about what would be required of
  • 00:31:39.270 --> 00:31:42.270
  • us.
  • 00:31:42.270 --> 00:31:44.170
  • If I warn people of the danger
  • 00:31:44.170 --> 00:31:47.090
  • that is to come, then he says in
  • 00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:50.140
  • the Scripture, "Their blood will
  • 00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:52.010
  • not be upon our hands."
  • 00:31:52.010 --> 00:31:54.080
  • But if we know what the danger
  • 00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:56.030
  • is and do not warn the people of
  • 00:31:56.030 --> 00:31:58.040
  • what is to come, their blood
  • 00:31:58.040 --> 00:32:00.270
  • will be required of us.
  • 00:32:00.270 --> 00:32:03.010
  • Well, I'm here to tell you there
  • 00:32:03.010 --> 00:32:05.110
  • is nothing ambiguous about this,
  • 00:32:05.110 --> 00:32:07.250
  • there is nothing vague about
  • 00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:09.180
  • this message.
  • 00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:10.260
  • Once you know what you believe,
  • 00:32:10.260 --> 00:32:13.120
  • it slams the door on doubt.
  • 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.200
  • There's nothing I have to think
  • 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.000
  • about.
  • 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:20.020
  • I don't have to run out here and
  • 00:32:20.020 --> 00:32:22.030
  • see what is popular.
  • 00:32:22.030 --> 00:32:23.260
  • I stand on "Thus saith the Word
  • 00:32:24.210 --> 00:32:27.210
  • of the Lord."
  • 00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:29.030
  • Acts chapter 4, verse 12, when
  • 00:32:29.090 --> 00:32:32.090
  • Peter preached it, "There is no
  • 00:32:32.090 --> 00:32:34.130
  • other name given under heaven
  • 00:32:35.050 --> 00:32:38.050
  • among men whereby we might be
  • 00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:41.220
  • saved but the name of
  • 00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:44.110
  • Jesus Christ
  • 00:32:44.110 --> 00:32:45.290
  • the Son of the living God."
  • 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:51.000
  • I have people say to me,
  • 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.030
  • Dr. Jeffress, "Well, it takes a
  • 00:32:53.150 --> 00:32:56.150
  • lot of courage for you, doesn't
  • 00:32:56.150 --> 00:32:57.270
  • it, just to keep pounding and
  • 00:32:57.270 --> 00:33:00.030
  • preaching this message?"
  • 00:33:00.030 --> 00:33:01.180
  • And I find that humorous.
  • 00:33:01.180 --> 00:33:03.270
  • What's courageous about it?
  • 00:33:03.270 --> 00:33:06.090
  • It's the truth.
  • 00:33:06.090 --> 00:33:08.180
  • It's the truth when I was borned
  • 00:33:08.180 --> 00:33:11.020
  • into this world my dad preached
  • 00:33:11.020 --> 00:33:12.150
  • it.
  • 00:33:12.150 --> 00:33:13.240
  • It's been the truth since Jesus
  • 00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.250
  • died on that cross.
  • 00:33:15.250 --> 00:33:17.230
  • Well, what has changed in 2016?
  • 00:33:18.070 --> 00:33:21.070
  • He's the same yesterday, today,
  • 00:33:21.070 --> 00:33:24.050
  • and forever.
  • 00:33:24.050 --> 00:33:25.160
  • There is only one way from earth
  • 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.150
  • to heaven and that is through
  • 00:33:28.150 --> 00:33:30.290
  • Jesus Christ the Son of the
  • 00:33:31.030 --> 00:33:34.030
  • living God.
  • 00:33:34.030 --> 00:33:35.200
  • And it's refreshing to know what
  • 00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.220
  • you believe because then doubt
  • 00:33:37.220 --> 00:33:40.220
  • no longer lingers in your mind.
  • 00:33:40.220 --> 00:33:43.090
  • Jesus is the way.
  • 00:33:43.090 --> 00:33:44.150
  • Pastor, the few minutes we have,
  • 00:33:44.150 --> 00:33:46.090
  • over my shoulders, this camera,
  • 00:33:46.090 --> 00:33:47.270
  • lead people to Jesus Christ
  • 00:33:47.270 --> 00:33:50.170
  • right now.
  • 00:33:50.170 --> 00:33:51.220
  • - Robert: I will.
  • 00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:52.190
  • You know, you referenced the
  • 00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:53.140
  • verse, "There's no other name
  • 00:33:53.140 --> 00:33:55.170
  • under heaven by which we must be
  • 00:33:55.170 --> 00:33:57.090
  • saved."
  • 00:33:57.090 --> 00:33:58.240
  • There's something powerful
  • 00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.220
  • One of the things and maybe
  • 00:34:01.290 --> 00:34:02.290
  • sometime we can come back and
  • 00:34:02.290 --> 00:34:04.080
  • talk about it, that I talk about
  • 00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:05.250
  • in this book, "Not All Roads
  • 00:34:05.250 --> 00:34:07.000
  • Lead to Heaven," is, well, what
  • 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.150
  • about sincere followers of other
  • 00:34:08.150 --> 00:34:10.070
  • religions who simply call God by
  • 00:34:10.070 --> 00:34:12.240
  • another name?
  • 00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:13.220
  • For example,
  • 00:34:13.220 --> 00:34:14.210
  • the followers of Islam.
  • 00:34:14.210 --> 00:34:16.060
  • They call him Allah.
  • 00:34:16.060 --> 00:34:18.110
  • They call God Allah.
  • 00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:19.260
  • Isn't that the same?
  • 00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:21.050
  • No.
  • 00:34:21.050 --> 00:34:22.060
  • Allah of the Qur'an is not
  • 00:34:22.060 --> 00:34:24.110
  • the Jehovah God of the Bible.
  • 00:34:24.110 --> 00:34:26.270
  • Allah of the Qur'an
  • 00:34:26.270 --> 00:34:28.060
  • is an imaginary god.
  • 00:34:28.060 --> 00:34:29.230
  • Jehovah is the real God.
  • 00:34:29.230 --> 00:34:31.200
  • Allah has no sons.
  • 00:34:31.200 --> 00:34:34.040
  • The real God has one Son
  • 00:34:34.040 --> 00:34:36.140
  • and his name is Jesus Christ.
  • 00:34:36.140 --> 00:34:39.120
  • And only by his name
  • 00:34:39.120 --> 00:34:40.280
  • can we be saved.
  • 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.230
  • And you know, I think about
  • 00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:44.030
  • 1 John 5:13 "These things I have
  • 00:34:44.040 --> 00:34:47.040
  • written to you who believe in
  • 00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:49.150
  • that you might know you have
  • 00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:54.070
  • eternal life."
  • 00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:55.170
  • And I'm speaking to some here
  • 00:34:55.170 --> 00:34:56.240
  • who you may have tuned in to
  • 00:34:56.240 --> 00:34:58.270
  • this program accidentally.
  • 00:34:58.270 --> 00:35:00.260
  • It's not an accident.
  • 00:35:00.260 --> 00:35:02.110
  • I believe God has called you
  • 00:35:02.110 --> 00:35:04.290
  • right now to a moment to receive
  • 00:35:04.290 --> 00:35:07.170
  • the free gift of eternal life.
  • 00:35:07.170 --> 00:35:10.100
  • We had a group in our church
  • 00:35:10.100 --> 00:35:12.100
  • Sunday from the British
  • 00:35:12.100 --> 00:35:14.010
  • Broadcasting Corporation.
  • 00:35:14.010 --> 00:35:15.180
  • They were doing a documentary on
  • 00:35:15.180 --> 00:35:16.230
  • Muslims in America and they
  • 00:35:16.230 --> 00:35:18.210
  • said, "Dr. Jeffress,
  • 00:35:18.210 --> 00:35:20.010
  • if you could look into
  • 00:35:20.010 --> 00:35:21.010
  • this camera and talk to the
  • 00:35:21.010 --> 00:35:22.160
  • followers of ISIS who have
  • 00:35:22.160 --> 00:35:25.020
  • beheaded people and committed
  • 00:35:25.020 --> 00:35:26.180
  • these atrocities, what would be
  • 00:35:26.180 --> 00:35:28.030
  • your message to them?"
  • 00:35:28.030 --> 00:35:30.050
  • And I said, "My message to
  • 00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:31.050
  • the members of ISIS is this,
  • 00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:34.010
  • 'For God so loved the world.
  • 00:35:34.010 --> 00:35:36.220
  • For God so loved you that he
  • 00:35:36.220 --> 00:35:39.080
  • gave his only Son that whoever
  • 00:35:39.080 --> 00:35:40.260
  • believes on him will not perish
  • 00:35:40.260 --> 00:35:43.160
  • but will have eternal life.'"
  • 00:35:43.160 --> 00:35:45.130
  • I'm talking to some of you
  • 00:35:45.130 --> 00:35:47.040
  • right now who are weighed down
  • 00:35:47.040 --> 00:35:49.090
  • by guilt over sins in your past
  • 00:35:49.090 --> 00:35:51.200
  • or sins in your life right now.
  • 00:35:51.200 --> 00:35:54.080
  • You think, "Well, Pastor,
  • 00:35:54.080 --> 00:35:55.250
  • you don't know what I've done.
  • 00:35:55.250 --> 00:35:57.050
  • God couldn't forgive me."
  • 00:35:57.050 --> 00:35:58.230
  • That's exactly why God sent
  • 00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:00.140
  • his Son Jesus to die for you.
  • 00:36:00.140 --> 00:36:03.000
  • Not for those small sins, but
  • 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.010
  • for those gigantic sins that you
  • 00:36:05.010 --> 00:36:07.020
  • think are beyond forgiveness.
  • 00:36:07.020 --> 00:36:09.040
  • No sin is beyond the grace of
  • 00:36:09.040 --> 00:36:10.170
  • God.
  • 00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:12.140
  • And tonight, if you would like
  • 00:36:12.140 --> 00:36:13.270
  • to know for sure that you have
  • 00:36:13.270 --> 00:36:15.290
  • been forgiven by God, I wanna
  • 00:36:15.290 --> 00:36:17.290
  • invite you right now to close
  • 00:36:17.290 --> 00:36:20.000
  • your eyes if you're able to and
  • 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.030
  • to pray this simple prayer to
  • 00:36:21.030 --> 00:36:23.070
  • God.
  • 00:36:23.070 --> 00:36:24.120
  • You know, Saint Augustine says,
  • 00:36:24.120 --> 00:36:25.260
  • "God gives only to those whose
  • 00:36:25.260 --> 00:36:28.080
  • hands are empty."
  • 00:36:28.080 --> 00:36:30.040
  • Tonight, if you're ready to
  • 00:36:30.040 --> 00:36:31.180
  • empty yourself of the denial of
  • 00:36:31.180 --> 00:36:33.060
  • your sin or the rationalization
  • 00:36:33.060 --> 00:36:35.130
  • for your sin, if you're ready to
  • 00:36:35.130 --> 00:36:36.210
  • receive God's forgiveness, pray
  • 00:36:36.210 --> 00:36:38.220
  • this prayer with me.
  • 00:36:38.220 --> 00:36:40.130
  • "Dear God, thank you for loving
  • 00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:42.060
  • me.
  • 00:36:42.060 --> 00:36:43.280
  • I know that I have sinned.
  • 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.230
  • And I'm truly sorry for the sin
  • 00:36:47.140 --> 00:36:50.140
  • in my life.
  • 00:36:50.140 --> 00:36:52.140
  • But I believe that you sent your
  • 00:36:52.180 --> 00:36:55.180
  • Son Jesus to die for me and,
  • 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.020
  • right now, I'm trusting in Jesus
  • 00:37:01.270 --> 00:37:04.270
  • and Jesus alone to save me from
  • 00:37:06.200 --> 00:37:09.200
  • my sins.
  • 00:37:09.200 --> 00:37:11.050
  • Thank you for forgiving me and
  • 00:37:11.050 --> 00:37:14.040
  • help me to live the rest of
  • 00:37:14.270 --> 00:37:17.270
  • my life serving you,
  • 00:37:18.010 --> 00:37:21.010
  • in Jesus' name, amen."
  • 00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:25.150
  • Now, if you prayed that
  • 00:37:25.230 --> 00:37:28.230
  • prayer, you've done what the
  • 00:37:31.010 --> 00:37:34.010
  • Bible says you need to do to
  • 00:37:34.010 --> 00:37:35.210
  • have eternal life.
  • 00:37:35.210 --> 00:37:37.090
  • Go find a Bible-believing,
  • 00:37:37.090 --> 00:37:38.290
  • Spirit-filled church where you
  • 00:37:38.290 --> 00:37:40.200
  • can grow in your faith.
  • 00:37:40.200 --> 00:37:42.040
  • Call the toll-free number you
  • 00:37:42.040 --> 00:37:43.120
  • see on the screen right now and
  • 00:37:43.120 --> 00:37:45.080
  • let us know here at TBN that you
  • 00:37:45.080 --> 00:37:47.280
  • prayed that prayer and we'll
  • 00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.050
  • pray with you as well.
  • 00:37:49.050 --> 00:37:51.060
  • God bless you and may you follow
  • 00:37:51.060 --> 00:37:54.010
  • him the rest of your days here
  • 00:37:54.010 --> 00:37:55.170
  • upon the earth.
  • 00:37:55.170 --> 00:37:56.160
  • Thank you.
  • 00:37:56.160 --> 00:37:58.110
  • - Dwight: Tell Dr. Jeffress how
  • 00:37:58.110 --> 00:37:59.040
  • much you appreciate this
  • 00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:00.090
  • message.
  • 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.000
  • The book, not only for your
  • 00:38:04.250 --> 00:38:07.250
  • reading, but get one for a
  • 00:38:07.250 --> 00:38:09.140
  • friend.
  • 00:38:09.140 --> 00:38:10.280
  • "Not All Roads Lead to Heaven,"
  • 00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:13.120
  • by Dr. Robert Jeffress.
  • 00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:15.090
  • Thank you for being here
  • 00:38:15.090 --> 00:38:16.180
  • tonight.
  • 00:38:16.180 --> 00:38:17.120
  • - Robert: Thank you for
  • 00:38:17.120 --> 00:38:18.020
  • allowing me to be here.
  • 00:38:18.020 --> 00:38:18.230
  • - Dwight: As always, thank you
  • 00:38:18.230 --> 00:38:19.190
  • for your powerful message.
  • 00:38:19.190 --> 00:38:21.190
  • - Robert: You know, you were
  • 00:38:21.190 --> 00:38:23.140
  • the host and Mike Purkey was the
  • 00:38:23.140 --> 00:38:25.120
  • singer, the very first show I
  • 00:38:25.120 --> 00:38:27.120
  • was on 20 years ago on TBN.
  • 00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:29.270
  • So it's great to be back with
  • 00:38:29.270 --> 00:38:31.050
  • you.
  • 00:38:31.050 --> 00:38:31.270
  • Thank you.
  • 00:38:31.270 --> 00:38:32.220
  • - Dwight: It's our anniversary.
  • 00:38:32.220 --> 00:38:33.230
  • - Robert: That's right.
  • 00:38:33.230 --> 00:38:36.000
  • - Dwight: Well, we wanna have
  • 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:37.050
  • you on a whole lot more times
  • 00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:38.050
  • too, Doctor.
  • 00:38:38.050 --> 00:38:39.090
  • God bless you.
  • 00:38:39.090 --> 00:38:40.200
  • Mike Purkey's ready to sing for
  • 00:38:40.200 --> 00:38:41.120
  • us right now.
  • 00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:42.070
  • I love this song,
  • 00:38:42.070 --> 00:38:43.160
  • "Thanks to Calvary."
  • 00:38:43.160 --> 00:38:45.000
  • [music]
  • 00:38:49.010 --> 00:38:52.010
  • [music]
  • 00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:59.070
  • Today, I went back to
  • 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.000
  • the place where I used to go
  • 00:39:11.010 --> 00:39:14.010
  • Today, I saw the same
  • 00:39:15.140 --> 00:39:18.140
  • old crowd I knew before.
  • 00:39:25.230 --> 00:39:28.230
  • When they asked me what had
  • 00:39:30.130 --> 00:39:33.130
  • happened, I tried to
  • 00:39:35.110 --> 00:39:38.110
  • tell them, yeah, I did.
  • 00:39:39.220 --> 00:39:42.220
  • I said, "Thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:39:43.120 --> 00:39:46.120
  • I don't come here anymore."
  • 00:39:51.040 --> 00:39:54.040
  • Oh, hallelujah.
  • 00:39:54.040 --> 00:39:55.270
  • My, my.
  • 00:39:55.270 --> 00:39:58.000
  • Thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:39:58.160 --> 00:40:01.160
  • I am not
  • 00:40:01.220 --> 00:40:04.220
  • the man I used to be.
  • 00:40:04.220 --> 00:40:07.010
  • Thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:40:07.010 --> 00:40:10.000
  • thanks to Calvary.
  • 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.080
  • Thanks to Calvary, things
  • 00:40:13.050 --> 00:40:16.050
  • are different than before.
  • 00:40:20.020 --> 00:40:23.020
  • Hah, hallelujah.
  • 00:40:23.020 --> 00:40:25.250
  • While the tears ran down my
  • 00:40:28.270 --> 00:40:31.270
  • face, I tried to tell them.
  • 00:40:37.170 --> 00:40:40.170
  • I said it was
  • 00:40:40.170 --> 00:40:42.070
  • thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:40:42.070 --> 00:40:45.070
  • I want you to think
  • 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:54.170
  • about it right now.
  • 00:40:54.170 --> 00:40:56.090
  • Thanks to Calvary, c'mon.
  • 00:40:56.090 --> 00:40:57.250
  • Then I went back
  • 00:41:25.060 --> 00:41:27.290
  • to the house
  • 00:41:29.140 --> 00:41:32.140
  • where I used to live.
  • 00:41:34.050 --> 00:41:37.050
  • Ha, ha.
  • 00:41:37.050 --> 00:41:38.160
  • My little boy,
  • 00:41:40.140 --> 00:41:43.140
  • he ran up and he hid up
  • 00:41:43.230 --> 00:41:46.230
  • behind the door.
  • 00:41:47.080 --> 00:41:50.080
  • Oh, yes, he did.
  • 00:41:50.080 --> 00:41:53.010
  • But I said, "Son,
  • 00:41:54.230 --> 00:41:57.230
  • you don't need to
  • 00:41:57.230 --> 00:42:00.100
  • have any fear 'cause,
  • 00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:02.130
  • listen, you've got
  • 00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:04.170
  • a brand new daddy here now.
  • 00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:10.010
  • Thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:42:10.010 --> 00:42:12.140
  • we don't live here anymore."
  • 00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:19.050
  • Ha, ha.
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  • Hallelujah.
  • 00:42:19.270 --> 00:42:21.200
  • Whoa, thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.000
  • I am not
  • 00:42:27.270 --> 00:42:30.270
  • the man I used to be.
  • 00:42:32.270 --> 00:42:35.270
  • Thanks to Calvary.
  • 00:42:35.270 --> 00:42:37.170
  • Thanks to Calvary, Lord,
  • 00:42:38.120 --> 00:42:41.120
  • things are different
  • 00:42:42.050 --> 00:42:45.050
  • than before.
  • 00:42:45.050 --> 00:42:48.050
  • Than before.
  • 00:42:48.050 --> 00:42:51.040
  • Yeah, while my tears ran
  • 00:42:51.290 --> 00:42:54.290
  • down my face, I tried to
  • 00:42:58.130 --> 00:43:01.150
  • tell them, yeah,
  • 00:43:04.030 --> 00:43:07.030
  • thanks to Calvary,
  • 00:43:08.020 --> 00:43:11.020
  • we don't live there anymore.
  • 00:43:15.120 --> 00:43:18.120
  • Oh, yeah.
  • 00:43:18.120 --> 00:43:20.110
  • Thanks to Calvary, we don't
  • 00:43:23.290 --> 00:43:26.290
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:43:48.180 --> 00:43:51.000
  • - Dwight: Can you not for just
  • 00:43:51.060 --> 00:43:54.060
  • one minute stop, think about
  • 00:43:56.170 --> 00:43:59.170
  • where you were when Jesus came,
  • 00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:04.050
  • broke the power of Satan that
  • 00:44:06.050 --> 00:44:09.050
  • was holding you enslaved.
  • 00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:12.120
  • All because of a place called
  • 00:44:12.250 --> 00:44:15.250
  • Calvary that Jesus died.
  • 00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:20.070
  • And tonight you're free
  • 00:44:20.150 --> 00:44:23.150
  • because you believed in the Lord
  • 00:44:23.150 --> 00:44:26.110
  • Jesus Christ as your Savior.
  • 00:44:26.110 --> 00:44:28.280
  • Go ahead, everybody.
  • 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:30.110
  • Let's praise him.
  • 00:44:30.110 --> 00:44:31.090
  • Clap your hands and
  • 00:44:31.090 --> 00:44:32.050
  • thank him for it.
  • 00:44:35.120 --> 00:44:38.120
  • Well, it's just overwhelming.
  • 00:44:38.120 --> 00:44:41.050
  • We just need a little shoutin'
  • 00:44:41.050 --> 00:44:42.190
  • time here before we go on
  • 00:44:42.190 --> 00:44:44.040
  • any farther in this meeting.
  • 00:44:44.040 --> 00:44:45.290
  • Thanks to Calvary.
  • 00:44:45.290 --> 00:44:47.260
  • Everybody say hello to
  • 00:44:47.260 --> 00:44:48.290
  • Pastor Lawrence Bishop from
  • 00:44:48.290 --> 00:44:51.130
  • Monroe, Ohio.
  • 00:44:55.180 --> 00:44:58.180
  • He is the Co-Pastor at Solid
  • 00:44:58.180 --> 00:45:00.140
  • Rock Church in Monroe, Ohio.
  • 00:45:00.140 --> 00:45:02.210
  • He's a minister, he's a gospel
  • 00:45:02.210 --> 00:45:04.140
  • musician, and a professional
  • 00:45:04.140 --> 00:45:06.230
  • rodeo cowboy.
  • 00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:09.090
  • Give him a great big hand.
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  • Lawrence, I'm glad you're here.
  • 00:45:11.100 --> 00:45:12.260
  • - Lawrence Bishop: Good to be
  • 00:45:12.260 --> 00:45:13.170
  • here.
  • 00:45:13.170 --> 00:45:14.040
  • - Dwight: Say hello to
  • 00:45:14.040 --> 00:45:14.240
  • Todd Pierce.
  • 00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:16.250
  • He's the President of Riding
  • 00:45:16.250 --> 00:45:18.100
  • High Ministries, a church
  • 00:45:18.100 --> 00:45:19.250
  • ministry based out of
  • 00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:21.070
  • Shelley, Idaho.
  • 00:45:21.070 --> 00:45:23.250
  • He rode bucking horses, ranking
  • 00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:26.140
  • third in the world even as
  • 00:45:26.140 --> 00:45:28.120
  • a rookie, and later winning
  • 00:45:28.120 --> 00:45:30.160
  • three championships.
  • 00:45:30.160 --> 00:45:32.160
  • 2001, his rodeo career ended
  • 00:45:32.200 --> 00:45:35.200
  • due to an injury but soon this
  • 00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:37.230
  • tragedy turned into triumph as
  • 00:45:37.230 --> 00:45:40.120
  • God opened the gate to full-time
  • 00:45:40.120 --> 00:45:42.240
  • ministry, a ministry called
  • 00:45:42.240 --> 00:45:44.200
  • "Riding High Ministries."
  • 00:45:44.260 --> 00:45:47.260
  • Everybody, give it up for
  • 00:45:47.260 --> 00:45:49.130
  • Todd Pierce, if you will.
  • 00:45:51.210 --> 00:45:54.210
  • Now, the young man next to Todd
  • 00:45:54.210 --> 00:45:57.010
  • is named Frank Newsom.
  • 00:45:57.010 --> 00:45:59.160
  • In his 17th season as a member
  • 00:45:59.220 --> 00:46:02.240
  • of the PBR, Professional Bull
  • 00:46:02.240 --> 00:46:04.270
  • Riders' Dickies Bullfighter.
  • 00:46:05.010 --> 00:46:08.010
  • Now, this isn't a clown.
  • 00:46:08.010 --> 00:46:09.040
  • This guy--
  • 00:46:09.090 --> 00:46:12.090
  • - Todd Pierce: Kinda.
  • 00:46:12.090 --> 00:46:13.290
  • - Dwight: They save many
  • 00:46:14.060 --> 00:46:17.060
  • a cowboy from injury and even
  • 00:46:17.140 --> 00:46:20.140
  • their life.
  • 00:46:20.140 --> 00:46:22.060
  • He's been voted by the riders to
  • 00:46:22.060 --> 00:46:23.060
  • work the Built Ford Tough World
  • 00:46:23.060 --> 00:46:25.030
  • Finals each of the last 11 years
  • 00:46:25.120 --> 00:46:28.120
  • and 13 times overall.
  • 00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:31.070
  • He and his wife Dea live in
  • 00:46:31.070 --> 00:46:33.220
  • Oklahoma with their three
  • 00:46:33.220 --> 00:46:34.280
  • children, Hunter, Cadence, and--
  • 00:46:35.120 --> 00:46:38.120
  • - Frank Newsom: Rigging.
  • 00:46:38.120 --> 00:46:39.240
  • - Dwight: Reagan.
  • 00:46:39.240 --> 00:46:40.170
  • - Frank: Rigging.
  • 00:46:40.170 --> 00:46:41.050
  • - Dwight: Rigging.
  • 00:46:41.050 --> 00:46:41.230
  • - Frank: Yeah.
  • 00:46:41.230 --> 00:46:42.110
  • - Dwight: Just like the
  • 00:46:42.110 --> 00:46:42.290
  • rigging.
  • 00:46:42.290 --> 00:46:43.120
  • - Frank: Just like a rigging,
  • 00:46:43.120 --> 00:46:44.030
  • yeah.
  • 00:46:44.030 --> 00:46:44.220
  • - Dwight: Give it up for
  • 00:46:44.220 --> 00:46:45.180
  • Frank Newsom, will ya?
  • 00:46:46.070 --> 00:46:49.070
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:46:49.070 --> 00:46:51.170
  • - Dwight: Let's just start
  • 00:46:51.170 --> 00:46:52.070
  • with Frank here for a minute.
  • 00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:53.230
  • I want you to explain now,
  • 00:46:53.230 --> 00:46:54.270
  • anybody that's ever been--I
  • 00:46:54.270 --> 00:46:56.190
  • realize a lot, maybe a lot of
  • 00:46:56.190 --> 00:46:57.230
  • people haven't been to rodeo but
  • 00:46:57.230 --> 00:46:59.040
  • you watch a guy riding a bull
  • 00:46:59.040 --> 00:47:01.270
  • and there's three guys, they've
  • 00:47:01.270 --> 00:47:03.230
  • usually got on some kind of
  • 00:47:03.230 --> 00:47:04.270
  • little costume or clown,
  • 00:47:04.270 --> 00:47:06.040
  • whatever it is, and the minute
  • 00:47:06.040 --> 00:47:08.180
  • those bullfighters all around,
  • 00:47:08.180 --> 00:47:11.030
  • when that rider comes off of
  • 00:47:11.030 --> 00:47:14.030
  • that bull or comes off before 8
  • 00:47:14.030 --> 00:47:16.110
  • seconds is up, many times, it's
  • 00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:18.100
  • guys like Frank that rush in
  • 00:47:18.100 --> 00:47:21.030
  • there to get the attention of
  • 00:47:21.030 --> 00:47:22.190
  • that bull and get it to chase
  • 00:47:22.190 --> 00:47:24.110
  • him and leave that rider that's
  • 00:47:24.110 --> 00:47:26.280
  • on the ground.
  • 00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.140
  • And many of them whose lives
  • 00:47:28.140 --> 00:47:29.260
  • have been spared because of
  • 00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:32.040
  • these bullfighters.
  • 00:47:32.040 --> 00:47:33.280
  • Let's give it up for Frank one
  • 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.170
  • more time.
  • 00:47:35.170 --> 00:47:38.090
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:47:38.090 --> 00:47:39.040
  • But now, tell us a little bit in
  • 00:47:39.040 --> 00:47:41.060
  • just a moment about how you came
  • 00:47:41.060 --> 00:47:43.240
  • to Christ but we're gonna show a
  • 00:47:43.240 --> 00:47:46.040
  • video right now.
  • 00:47:46.040 --> 00:47:47.010
  • And you do the voiceover on it.
  • 00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:48.240
  • Would you do that for me?
  • 00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:50.010
  • - Frank: Sure.
  • 00:47:50.010 --> 00:47:50.200
  • - Dwight: Now, everybody watch
  • 00:47:50.200 --> 00:47:51.180
  • the monitors here in the studio.
  • 00:47:51.180 --> 00:47:52.220
  • You at home, just watch this
  • 00:47:52.220 --> 00:47:53.150
  • now.
  • 00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:55.000
  • - Frank: This is at Oklahoma
  • 00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:56.100
  • City.
  • 00:47:56.100 --> 00:47:57.020
  • Kaique Pacheco's on this bull
  • 00:47:57.020 --> 00:47:58.190
  • called Excavation.
  • 00:47:58.190 --> 00:48:00.150
  • Right there, I'm up at top.
  • 00:48:00.150 --> 00:48:02.090
  • My other partners are right here
  • 00:48:02.090 --> 00:48:03.270
  • on either side.
  • 00:48:03.270 --> 00:48:05.090
  • It's right here at the end of
  • 00:48:05.090 --> 00:48:06.210
  • the ride, I move in to get in
  • 00:48:06.210 --> 00:48:07.220
  • position.
  • 00:48:07.220 --> 00:48:08.130
  • That bull feels that bullrider
  • 00:48:08.130 --> 00:48:09.240
  • and he felt me.
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  • I was trying to get in position
  • 00:48:11.190 --> 00:48:12.260
  • and he--that bull felt me and
  • 00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:14.100
  • kicked me.
  • 00:48:14.100 --> 00:48:15.040
  • - Dwight: Oh, my goodness.
  • 00:48:15.040 --> 00:48:16.270
  • - Frank: You know, I've made
  • 00:48:16.270 --> 00:48:17.190
  • that same move on 200 or 300
  • 00:48:17.190 --> 00:48:18.250
  • bulls and not been kicked.
  • 00:48:18.250 --> 00:48:19.290
  • That bull was just
  • 00:48:19.290 --> 00:48:21.180
  • really--particularly, he
  • 00:48:21.180 --> 00:48:22.290
  • knew--very athletic,
  • 00:48:22.290 --> 00:48:25.090
  • very--pretty mean, you know?
  • 00:48:25.090 --> 00:48:27.050
  • And he felt me right there at
  • 00:48:27.050 --> 00:48:28.140
  • his hip.
  • 00:48:28.140 --> 00:48:29.150
  • He reached and kicked me bang,
  • 00:48:29.150 --> 00:48:30.220
  • right on the button.
  • 00:48:30.220 --> 00:48:32.010
  • Then he turned around and
  • 00:48:32.010 --> 00:48:33.020
  • punched me in the face and
  • 00:48:33.020 --> 00:48:34.030
  • knocked me out.
  • 00:48:34.030 --> 00:48:35.120
  • Anyways, after that, I'm out
  • 00:48:35.120 --> 00:48:37.050
  • and, you know, it was just a
  • 00:48:37.050 --> 00:48:39.100
  • matter of hauling me back there
  • 00:48:39.100 --> 00:48:41.140
  • and sewing me up.
  • 00:48:41.140 --> 00:48:42.260
  • My wife and kids were there.
  • 00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:45.170
  • God was there, you know what
  • 00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:51.010
  • I mean?
  • 00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:51.190
  • We've got God in our life.
  • 00:48:51.190 --> 00:48:52.210
  • Things like that ain't gonna
  • 00:48:52.210 --> 00:48:54.030
  • wreck us, you know?
  • 00:48:54.030 --> 00:48:55.230
  • how long ago?
  • 00:48:56.160 --> 00:48:57.090
  • Not long?
  • 00:48:57.090 --> 00:48:58.010
  • - Frank: This is two--
  • 00:48:58.010 --> 00:48:59.040
  • - Todd: Two weeks ago.
  • 00:48:59.040 --> 00:48:59.290
  • - Dwight: A couple of weeks
  • 00:48:59.290 --> 00:49:00.210
  • ago?
  • 00:49:00.210 --> 00:49:01.090
  • - Frank: And I've already been
  • 00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:02.100
  • back to work.
  • 00:49:02.100 --> 00:49:03.030
  • I missed 1 week.
  • 00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:04.000
  • I had to stay home for a week--
  • 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:04.220
  • - Lawrence: Sissy.
  • 00:49:04.220 --> 00:49:06.010
  • - Frank: Kinda get the cobwebs
  • 00:49:06.010 --> 00:49:06.290
  • out of my head and get kind of
  • 00:49:06.290 --> 00:49:08.040
  • healed up a little.
  • 00:49:08.040 --> 00:49:09.050
  • - Dwight: How many fingers have
  • 00:49:09.050 --> 00:49:09.270
  • I got up right now?
  • 00:49:09.270 --> 00:49:11.170
  • This is why the song was
  • 00:49:11.170 --> 00:49:13.170
  • written, "Mama, Don't Let Your
  • 00:49:13.170 --> 00:49:16.040
  • Babies Grow Up to be Cowboys."
  • 00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:18.200
  • Frank, that is just
  • 00:49:18.200 --> 00:49:20.040
  • incredible.
  • 00:49:20.040 --> 00:49:21.230
  • When did you first come to
  • 00:49:21.230 --> 00:49:23.040
  • the Lord?
  • 00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:24.250
  • - Frank: Well, when I was 9, I
  • 00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:26.000
  • walked to the front of the
  • 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.250
  • Baptist Church there in
  • 00:49:27.250 --> 00:49:28.210
  • Granbury, Texas.
  • 00:49:28.210 --> 00:49:29.270
  • My mom took me to church every
  • 00:49:29.270 --> 00:49:30.230
  • week and, I did, I accepted the
  • 00:49:30.230 --> 00:49:33.080
  • Lord.
  • 00:49:33.080 --> 00:49:34.080
  • And you know, later on, as I
  • 00:49:34.080 --> 00:49:37.050
  • lived my life, I've been through
  • 00:49:37.050 --> 00:49:38.270
  • a lot of--I got way, far away
  • 00:49:39.120 --> 00:49:42.120
  • from the Lord, you know, and I
  • 00:49:42.120 --> 00:49:44.060
  • went down the wrong trail.
  • 00:49:44.060 --> 00:49:46.160
  • And looking back now, I've often
  • 00:49:46.160 --> 00:49:49.100
  • wondered why I've seen people
  • 00:49:49.100 --> 00:49:51.220
  • that were doing the same things
  • 00:49:51.220 --> 00:49:53.030
  • I was doing and they were just
  • 00:49:53.030 --> 00:49:54.100
  • so messed up, or more messed up,
  • 00:49:55.030 --> 00:49:58.030
  • maybe, I don't know, I'm pretty
  • 00:49:58.030 --> 00:49:59.030
  • messed up maybe but I don't
  • 00:49:59.030 --> 00:50:00.040
  • know.
  • 00:50:00.040 --> 00:50:01.010
  • But I think the Holy Spirit was
  • 00:50:01.010 --> 00:50:02.100
  • still with me even then.
  • 00:50:02.100 --> 00:50:04.000
  • But I did, you know, in June 4
  • 00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.280
  • of '09, I rededicated and I
  • 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.000
  • accepted him.
  • 00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:12.200
  • I prayed for all the sin that I
  • 00:50:12.200 --> 00:50:14.050
  • accumulated.
  • 00:50:14.050 --> 00:50:15.070
  • I got baptized in the name of
  • 00:50:15.070 --> 00:50:17.010
  • Jesus, you know.
  • 00:50:17.010 --> 00:50:18.160
  • And I feel the Holy Spirit with
  • 00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:20.230
  • me, you know, every day, you
  • 00:50:20.230 --> 00:50:22.070
  • know?
  • 00:50:22.070 --> 00:50:22.270
  • - Dwight: Ain't that a
  • 00:50:22.270 --> 00:50:23.160
  • wonderful thing, ain't it?
  • 00:50:23.160 --> 00:50:25.290
  • Now, I don't know this but, now,
  • 00:50:25.290 --> 00:50:28.120
  • Todd.
  • 00:50:28.120 --> 00:50:30.140
  • Todd was a bronc rider.
  • 00:50:30.140 --> 00:50:32.010
  • - Frank: That was '04 and not
  • 00:50:32.010 --> 00:50:32.290
  • '09, I'm sorry.
  • 00:50:32.290 --> 00:50:34.120
  • - Dwight: '04?
  • 00:50:34.120 --> 00:50:35.090
  • - Frank: Yes.
  • 00:50:35.090 --> 00:50:35.290
  • - Dwight: Well, you just got
  • 00:50:35.290 --> 00:50:36.270
  • kicked by that bull so you can--
  • 00:50:36.270 --> 00:50:38.150
  • - Frank: Yeah, the numbers, I
  • 00:50:38.150 --> 00:50:39.120
  • mean, you know.
  • 00:50:39.120 --> 00:50:42.110
  • - Dwight: Now, Todd, how did
  • 00:50:42.110 --> 00:50:43.050
  • you guys connect?
  • 00:50:43.050 --> 00:50:45.100
  • Now, Todd was a champion bronc
  • 00:50:45.100 --> 00:50:46.150
  • rider for years, won
  • 00:50:46.150 --> 00:50:48.180
  • championships and all of this
  • 00:50:48.180 --> 00:50:50.030
  • kind of thing.
  • 00:50:50.030 --> 00:50:51.070
  • And then he was injured and then
  • 00:50:51.070 --> 00:50:52.280
  • you--the Lord laid on your heart
  • 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.100
  • Riding High Ministries.
  • 00:50:55.100 --> 00:50:57.230
  • Now you've kind of been
  • 00:50:57.230 --> 00:50:58.280
  • called--your whole idea is about
  • 00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.120
  • breaking a bronc without
  • 00:51:02.050 --> 00:51:05.050
  • the traditional way.
  • 00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:07.230
  • Now, I just coined this.
  • 00:51:07.230 --> 00:51:10.200
  • It's almost like you've become a
  • 00:51:10.200 --> 00:51:11.240
  • horse whisperer and I said that.
  • 00:51:11.240 --> 00:51:13.290
  • That's just the way.
  • 00:51:13.290 --> 00:51:15.020
  • But you've just learned how to
  • 00:51:15.020 --> 00:51:16.110
  • take a horse.
  • 00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:17.090
  • Now, we--talk a little bit about
  • 00:51:17.090 --> 00:51:19.000
  • that and then let's just set up
  • 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:20.020
  • the video for people to see it.
  • 00:51:20.020 --> 00:51:22.200
  • - Todd: Well, I guess
  • 00:51:22.200 --> 00:51:24.070
  • specifically with the horse and
  • 00:51:24.070 --> 00:51:26.140
  • what it is that I do with that,
  • 00:51:26.140 --> 00:51:28.000
  • it's that I realize that fear is
  • 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.010
  • not anything that God uses to
  • 00:51:30.010 --> 00:51:31.150
  • motivate people.
  • 00:51:31.160 --> 00:51:34.160
  • He said that it's his goodness
  • 00:51:34.160 --> 00:51:36.170
  • that wins people to repentance.
  • 00:51:36.170 --> 00:51:38.080
  • It's if we actually know how
  • 00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:40.020
  • good God is then we're settled
  • 00:51:40.020 --> 00:51:41.120
  • in and we quit running from him.
  • 00:51:41.120 --> 00:51:44.000
  • And so when I began working with
  • 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.260
  • horses in this manner, I
  • 00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:48.130
  • realized that if I could just
  • 00:51:48.130 --> 00:51:50.040
  • get a horse to understand that
  • 00:51:50.040 --> 00:51:51.110
  • my heart is for it and not
  • 00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:53.140
  • against it, I'm not trying to
  • 00:51:53.140 --> 00:51:54.180
  • control it and make it be what I
  • 00:51:54.180 --> 00:51:56.000
  • want it to be, I want it to
  • 00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:57.170
  • discover what it was created for
  • 00:51:57.170 --> 00:51:59.180
  • connection with me, then it's
  • 00:52:02.080 --> 00:52:03.220
  • free to experience all that I've
  • 00:52:03.220 --> 00:52:06.140
  • got for it and it just became a
  • 00:52:06.140 --> 00:52:08.290
  • very vivid picture for what the
  • 00:52:08.290 --> 00:52:11.140
  • Lord was doing in my life
  • 00:52:11.140 --> 00:52:12.210
  • Christian, not going to church,
  • 00:52:14.230 --> 00:52:16.090
  • and working horses.
  • 00:52:16.090 --> 00:52:17.230
  • And I do remember the first day
  • 00:52:17.230 --> 00:52:20.040
  • I said out loud as a horse is
  • 00:52:20.040 --> 00:52:21.170
  • running from me, I said,
  • 00:52:21.170 --> 00:52:22.220
  • "Why are you running from me?
  • 00:52:22.220 --> 00:52:25.070
  • Just stop already.
  • 00:52:25.070 --> 00:52:26.280
  • You're killing yourself.
  • 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.120
  • I got something for you if you
  • 00:52:28.120 --> 00:52:30.080
  • just stop and look at me and
  • 00:52:30.080 --> 00:52:31.070
  • trust me, I'm gonna show you
  • 00:52:31.070 --> 00:52:32.220
  • things that have never even
  • 00:52:32.220 --> 00:52:33.250
  • entered your mind."
  • 00:52:33.250 --> 00:52:35.030
  • And soon as I said those words
  • 00:52:35.030 --> 00:52:36.200
  • out loud, it was as though I
  • 00:52:36.200 --> 00:52:37.260
  • was--that was God speaking
  • 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:39.280
  • the same thing over me.
  • 00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:41.030
  • - Dwight: Talking to you
  • 00:52:41.030 --> 00:52:42.000
  • himself, wasn't he?
  • 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:42.240
  • - Todd: Yeah.
  • 00:52:42.240 --> 00:52:44.000
  • - Dwight: Boy, that's--we all
  • 00:52:44.260 --> 00:52:47.260
  • got that, didn't we?
  • 00:52:47.260 --> 00:52:50.060
  • That applied to every one of us.
  • 00:52:50.060 --> 00:52:52.000
  • Well, then, how did the--is that
  • 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.280
  • how the ministry started?
  • 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.090
  • - Todd: No, the ministry only
  • 00:52:55.090 --> 00:52:56.240
  • started because I don't know if
  • 00:52:56.240 --> 00:52:59.090
  • anybody else does life this way
  • 00:52:59.090 --> 00:53:00.280
  • but I never really had a vision
  • 00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.250
  • for what I wanted to do with
  • 00:53:02.250 --> 00:53:04.050
  • my life but God did give me
  • 00:53:04.050 --> 00:53:06.190
  • a really clear vision of who
  • 00:53:06.190 --> 00:53:07.160
  • I wanted to be.
  • 00:53:07.160 --> 00:53:08.290
  • And while I was still competing,
  • 00:53:08.290 --> 00:53:11.040
  • the love of God that had
  • 00:53:11.040 --> 00:53:13.290
  • overwhelmed me just made it to
  • 00:53:13.290 --> 00:53:15.280
  • where everywhere I went and
  • 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.020
  • throughout the competitions,
  • 00:53:17.040 --> 00:53:20.040
  • more than the success in
  • 00:53:20.040 --> 00:53:21.230
  • the arena, I really wanted to
  • 00:53:21.230 --> 00:53:23.120
  • reach people with the gospel.
  • 00:53:23.120 --> 00:53:25.000
  • And just with the love of God
  • 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:26.280
  • and mentor men and build
  • 00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:28.050
  • relationships.
  • 00:53:28.050 --> 00:53:29.210
  • And that's just kinda who I was.
  • 00:53:29.210 --> 00:53:31.110
  • So once I got hurt, a gentleman
  • 00:53:31.110 --> 00:53:33.160
  • named Cody Custer, who is a
  • 00:53:33.160 --> 00:53:34.220
  • world champion bull rider as
  • 00:53:34.220 --> 00:53:36.080
  • well, asked me to come speak at
  • 00:53:36.080 --> 00:53:38.060
  • a professional bull riding event
  • 00:53:38.060 --> 00:53:39.170
  • 'cause they were having Bible
  • 00:53:39.170 --> 00:53:40.190
  • studies and that was over 15
  • 00:53:40.190 --> 00:53:43.180
  • years ago and, long story short,
  • 00:53:43.290 --> 00:53:46.290
  • I just never even looked back.
  • 00:53:46.290 --> 00:53:48.200
  • I knew that my entire career
  • 00:53:48.200 --> 00:53:50.140
  • was--had prepared me to be in
  • 00:53:51.260 --> 00:53:54.260
  • a spot where I could build
  • 00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:57.110
  • relationships with other men
  • 00:53:57.110 --> 00:53:58.170
  • that are involved in the sport
  • 00:53:58.170 --> 00:53:59.250
  • that don't have a whole lot of
  • 00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:01.130
  • resources to help them be
  • 00:54:01.130 --> 00:54:03.240
  • healthy.
  • 00:54:03.240 --> 00:54:05.000
  • And so Riding High Ministries
  • 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.150
  • just kind of evolved out of
  • 00:54:07.150 --> 00:54:08.200
  • that.
  • 00:54:08.200 --> 00:54:09.140
  • I say it just happened but, you
  • 00:54:09.140 --> 00:54:11.190
  • know, obviously, our Father has
  • 00:54:11.190 --> 00:54:12.180
  • ways of us just staying true to
  • 00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:15.250
  • who it is that he called us to
  • 00:54:15.250 --> 00:54:17.060
  • be and the steps,
  • 00:54:17.060 --> 00:54:19.010
  • they reveal themselves.
  • 00:54:19.010 --> 00:54:20.290
  • I call it just staying in the
  • 00:54:20.290 --> 00:54:22.110
  • moment and enjoying the truth.
  • 00:54:23.020 --> 00:54:26.020
  • We have a Father that knows how
  • 00:54:26.020 --> 00:54:27.060
  • to get us where we need to go if
  • 00:54:27.060 --> 00:54:29.080
  • we'll just be obedient to being
  • 00:54:29.080 --> 00:54:30.250
  • who it is we're created to be.
  • 00:54:30.250 --> 00:54:32.180
  • - Dwight: Ain't that wonderful?
  • 00:54:32.180 --> 00:54:33.100
  • - Todd: Yes, sir.
  • 00:54:33.100 --> 00:54:34.110
  • - Dwight: Ain't that wonderful?
  • 00:54:34.110 --> 00:54:35.070
  • Let's look at
  • 00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:36.000
  • - female: Never has the PBR's
  • 00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:43.130
  • visibility and fan base in
  • 00:54:43.130 --> 00:54:45.110
  • American society been stronger.
  • 00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:47.150
  • Fans and spectators worldwide
  • 00:54:47.150 --> 00:54:49.140
  • may not be aware of the untold
  • 00:54:49.140 --> 00:54:51.000
  • story behind the fiery flames
  • 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:52.140
  • and the bucking bulls.
  • 00:54:52.140 --> 00:54:54.120
  • It's an untold story of personal
  • 00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:55.260
  • struggle and need among athletes
  • 00:54:55.260 --> 00:54:58.010
  • that so many admire and follow.
  • 00:54:58.030 --> 00:55:01.050
  • An untold story
  • 00:55:01.050 --> 00:55:01.280
  • of courageous witness
  • 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.130
  • and ministry for Jesus Christ.
  • 00:55:03.130 --> 00:55:05.050
  • It's happening through
  • 00:55:05.050 --> 00:55:06.150
  • Riding High Ministries under
  • 00:55:06.150 --> 00:55:07.270
  • - Todd: For over 12 years now,
  • 00:55:09.290 --> 00:55:10.250
  • Riding High Ministries has had
  • 00:55:10.250 --> 00:55:12.150
  • the privilege of being a part of
  • 00:55:12.150 --> 00:55:14.010
  • the sport of professional
  • 00:55:14.010 --> 00:55:15.110
  • bull riding.
  • 00:55:15.110 --> 00:55:16.040
  • to just make sure that we're
  • 00:55:18.110 --> 00:55:19.020
  • here for these men.
  • 00:55:19.020 --> 00:55:20.030
  • Many of them come from rural
  • 00:55:20.030 --> 00:55:20.280
  • areas that had a real network of
  • 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.230
  • support around them.
  • 00:55:22.230 --> 00:55:24.040
  • They're immediately taken out of
  • 00:55:24.040 --> 00:55:25.140
  • that, projected into the biggest
  • 00:55:25.140 --> 00:55:27.090
  • cities in the United States and
  • 00:55:27.090 --> 00:55:28.110
  • really set up to fail in nearly
  • 00:55:28.110 --> 00:55:30.080
  • every area of their life,
  • 00:55:30.080 --> 00:55:31.120
  • other than bull riding.
  • 00:55:31.120 --> 00:55:32.200
  • Riding High Ministries has been
  • 00:55:32.200 --> 00:55:33.240
  • focused to make sure that we're
  • 00:55:33.240 --> 00:55:34.270
  • helping the man and not just
  • 00:55:34.270 --> 00:55:36.090
  • the athlete.
  • 00:55:36.090 --> 00:55:37.230
  • - Frank: So I'm not just out
  • 00:55:37.230 --> 00:55:38.140
  • there, doing what I do.
  • 00:55:38.140 --> 00:55:39.180
  • I know why I'm doing it.
  • 00:55:39.180 --> 00:55:41.020
  • I mean, God gave me the talent.
  • 00:55:41.020 --> 00:55:42.080
  • It's a way for me to take care
  • 00:55:42.080 --> 00:55:43.140
  • of my family.
  • 00:55:43.140 --> 00:55:44.190
  • And not only that, you know, if
  • 00:55:44.190 --> 00:55:45.260
  • I can inspire a kid or somebody
  • 00:55:45.260 --> 00:55:47.090
  • can tell them about God, that's
  • 00:55:49.220 --> 00:55:51.010
  • kind of the purpose behind it,
  • 00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:52.290
  • you know?
  • 00:55:52.290 --> 00:55:53.160
  • And so it just puts a lot more
  • 00:55:53.160 --> 00:55:54.140
  • - Todd: Riding High, we host
  • 00:55:59.110 --> 00:56:00.110
  • some faith nights and part of it
  • 00:56:00.110 --> 00:56:03.070
  • is a horse-breaking
  • 00:56:03.070 --> 00:56:05.160
  • demonstration and then different
  • 00:56:05.160 --> 00:56:06.280
  • riders sharing testimonies and
  • 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.060
  • sharing little stories about
  • 00:56:08.060 --> 00:56:09.100
  • what God has done in their
  • 00:56:09.100 --> 00:56:10.110
  • lives.
  • 00:56:10.110 --> 00:56:11.040
  • - Frank: I love the worship,
  • 00:56:11.040 --> 00:56:13.070
  • you know, the bands,
  • 00:56:13.070 --> 00:56:14.050
  • they're always great.
  • 00:56:14.050 --> 00:56:15.130
  • The message from the horse
  • 00:56:15.130 --> 00:56:17.090
  • testimony, you know, with Todd,
  • 00:56:17.090 --> 00:56:19.160
  • that's always different
  • 00:56:19.160 --> 00:56:21.160
  • and fitting everywhere we go.
  • 00:56:21.160 --> 00:56:22.260
  • Everywhere he does that, it
  • 00:56:22.260 --> 00:56:24.050
  • seems like the horse is
  • 00:56:24.050 --> 00:56:25.040
  • just relating to the people
  • 00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:26.160
  • out there.
  • 00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:27.140
  • - male: The church services,
  • 00:56:27.140 --> 00:56:28.080
  • I think, are pretty important
  • 00:56:28.080 --> 00:56:29.020
  • for the fans.
  • 00:56:29.020 --> 00:56:30.000
  • They get to see us as riders
  • 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.090
  • attend them.
  • 00:56:31.090 --> 00:56:32.200
  • I mean, and then they get to
  • 00:56:32.200 --> 00:56:33.260
  • connect with us afterwards or in
  • 00:56:33.260 --> 00:56:36.040
  • the arena, come up to us, and
  • 00:56:36.040 --> 00:56:37.170
  • know that we're believers in God
  • 00:56:37.170 --> 00:56:39.180
  • and what we stand for.
  • 00:56:39.180 --> 00:56:40.230
  • And what I do around at these
  • 00:56:40.230 --> 00:56:42.030
  • events, people notice it.
  • 00:56:42.030 --> 00:56:43.280
  • I don't think I do a whole lot
  • 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:45.100
  • but they come up to you and, I
  • 00:56:45.100 --> 00:56:46.100
  • mean, it's amazing how much
  • 00:56:46.100 --> 00:56:47.210
  • they'll reach out to you and
  • 00:56:47.210 --> 00:56:49.060
  • express what they're going
  • 00:56:49.060 --> 00:56:50.160
  • through or--but it brings us all
  • 00:56:50.160 --> 00:56:52.010
  • closer together in knowing what
  • 00:56:52.010 --> 00:56:53.270
  • we all stand for and believe in.
  • 00:56:53.270 --> 00:56:55.290
  • - male: Being involved with
  • 00:56:55.290 --> 00:56:56.240
  • Riding High Ministries has led
  • 00:56:56.240 --> 00:56:58.080
  • to the opportunity to go on
  • 00:56:58.080 --> 00:56:59.240
  • several missions,
  • 00:56:59.240 --> 00:57:00.260
  • varying in scale.
  • 00:57:00.260 --> 00:57:02.260
  • Sometimes it's just to the local
  • 00:57:02.260 --> 00:57:04.240
  • jail or youth detention facility
  • 00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:07.100
  • at a city that we're at.
  • 00:57:07.100 --> 00:57:09.130
  • - Frank: And to be able to tell
  • 00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:10.050
  • 'em my story and tell 'em the
  • 00:57:10.050 --> 00:57:11.160
  • things I messed up in my life
  • 00:57:11.160 --> 00:57:13.100
  • and how God had helped me
  • 00:57:13.100 --> 00:57:15.000
  • correct it.
  • 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:16.170
  • You know, stepping in there
  • 00:57:16.170 --> 00:57:17.150
  • behind them locked doors in that
  • 00:57:17.150 --> 00:57:18.260
  • facility and just seeing all
  • 00:57:18.260 --> 00:57:20.090
  • them young people that--and how
  • 00:57:20.090 --> 00:57:21.280
  • the world has just, you know,
  • 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.190
  • had a hold of 'em and, you know,
  • 00:57:23.190 --> 00:57:25.020
  • and to see God work.
  • 00:57:25.020 --> 00:57:27.050
  • You know, the power of God.
  • 00:57:27.050 --> 00:57:28.090
  • We might not see it in every one
  • 00:57:28.090 --> 00:57:29.210
  • of 'em but just one or two of
  • 00:57:29.210 --> 00:57:30.280
  • 'em you can just see, you know,
  • 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:32.120
  • you see a change come over 'em.
  • 00:57:32.120 --> 00:57:34.040
  • - Todd: Without Riding High,
  • 00:57:34.040 --> 00:57:34.280
  • none of that stuff would have
  • 00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:36.010
  • been possible.
  • 00:57:36.010 --> 00:57:37.000
  • It's through Riding High that
  • 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.090
  • all this stuff is set up and
  • 00:57:38.090 --> 00:57:39.130
  • we're able to go into the
  • 00:57:39.130 --> 00:57:40.290
  • communities and to go into other
  • 00:57:40.290 --> 00:57:42.040
  • countries and share God's Word
  • 00:57:42.040 --> 00:57:43.180
  • and share his love and his plan
  • 00:57:43.180 --> 00:57:44.240
  • with others.
  • 00:57:44.240 --> 00:57:46.270
  • - Dwight: What a great thing,
  • 00:57:46.270 --> 00:57:47.190
  • Todd.
  • 00:57:47.290 --> 00:57:50.290
  • [audience applauding]
  • 00:57:50.290 --> 00:57:53.280
  • You know, as an evangelist,
  • 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:55.130
  • I'm just jumping on the inside
  • 00:57:55.130 --> 00:57:56.270
  • right now just thinking about
  • 00:57:56.270 --> 00:57:59.040
  • how God has the right person in
  • 00:57:59.240 --> 00:58:02.260
  • the right place at the right
  • 00:58:02.260 --> 00:58:03.180
  • time for the right people.
  • 00:58:03.180 --> 00:58:06.050
  • He may not come and hear me, of
  • 00:58:06.050 --> 00:58:08.190
  • course, but right there the Lord
  • 00:58:08.190 --> 00:58:11.070
  • has his vessel, the witness that
  • 00:58:13.110 --> 00:58:16.110
  • they need, right in their own
  • 00:58:16.150 --> 00:58:19.150
  • culture to lead people to the
  • 00:58:19.150 --> 00:58:22.090
  • Lord Jesus Christ.
  • 00:58:22.090 --> 00:58:23.280
  • Riding High Ministries, isn't
  • 00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.070
  • that a great thing?
  • 00:58:25.070 --> 00:58:26.080
  • Isn't that a great thing?
  • 00:58:29.200 --> 00:58:32.200
  • - Dwight: Let me introduce
  • 00:58:32.200 --> 00:58:33.180
  • Lawrence Bishop here now.
  • 00:58:33.180 --> 00:58:35.110
  • And you're getting acquainted
  • 00:58:35.110 --> 00:58:36.270
  • with all three.
  • 00:58:36.270 --> 00:58:37.230
  • Now, Lawrence, he's a bull rider
  • 00:58:38.220 --> 00:58:41.220
  • and one thing I remember about
  • 00:58:41.220 --> 00:58:44.050
  • the one, I think it was in
  • 00:58:44.050 --> 00:58:45.200
  • Phoenix, I don't know that we
  • 00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:46.270
  • have that clip, that's where
  • 00:58:46.270 --> 00:58:49.010
  • that bull jerked you down and
  • 00:58:49.010 --> 00:58:50.060
  • hits you.
  • 00:58:50.060 --> 00:58:51.080
  • And you were hung up in the
  • 00:58:51.080 --> 00:58:54.000
  • rigging.
  • 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:55.040
  • And it threw you around.
  • 00:58:55.040 --> 00:58:57.100
  • Is that--in the rope.
  • 00:58:57.100 --> 00:58:58.100
  • And then the only thing the
  • 00:58:58.100 --> 00:59:00.130
  • announcer is heard to say when
  • 00:59:00.130 --> 00:59:02.160
  • the ambulance came in and took
  • 00:59:02.160 --> 00:59:03.250
  • you out of there was, "All we
  • 00:59:03.250 --> 00:59:06.130
  • can tell you is they tell me
  • 00:59:06.130 --> 00:59:07.180
  • that cowboy's still breathing."
  • 00:59:07.180 --> 00:59:09.130
  • And that was you.
  • 00:59:09.130 --> 00:59:11.040
  • I don't think we have that clip.
  • 00:59:11.040 --> 00:59:12.170
  • - Lawrence: Hopefully not.
  • 00:59:12.170 --> 00:59:14.240
  • - Dwight: But--he said,
  • 00:59:14.240 --> 00:59:16.080
  • "I hope not."
  • 00:59:16.080 --> 00:59:17.120
  • I hope not.
  • 00:59:17.120 --> 00:59:18.050
  • But say hello to
  • 00:59:18.050 --> 00:59:19.060
  • Lawrence Bishop.
  • 00:59:19.060 --> 00:59:19.270
  • He and--he's the co-pastor with
  • 00:59:20.110 --> 00:59:23.110
  • his mother, Darlene Bishop, one
  • 00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:26.030
  • of the great preachers of the
  • 00:59:26.030 --> 00:59:27.150
  • gospel.
  • 00:59:27.150 --> 00:59:28.130
  • Both of them, co-pastor of the
  • 00:59:28.130 --> 00:59:30.130
  • great Solid Rock Church not only
  • 00:59:30.130 --> 00:59:32.280
  • down in Cincinnati but in
  • 00:59:32.280 --> 00:59:34.160
  • Monroe.
  • 00:59:34.160 --> 00:59:35.100
  • We're thrilled that he is with
  • 00:59:35.100 --> 00:59:36.150
  • us.
  • 00:59:36.150 --> 00:59:38.030
  • And you did something really,
  • 00:59:38.030 --> 00:59:39.220
  • really unique that I want
  • 00:59:39.220 --> 00:59:42.090
  • everybody to hear about and I'm
  • 00:59:42.090 --> 00:59:43.190
  • gonna let you tell it.
  • 00:59:43.190 --> 00:59:45.140
  • Welcome, by the way, to "Praise
  • 00:59:45.140 --> 00:59:46.140
  • the Lord."
  • 00:59:46.140 --> 00:59:47.060
  • - Lawrence: Oh, it's good to
  • 00:59:47.060 --> 00:59:47.270
  • be here 'cause we have so many
  • 00:59:47.270 --> 00:59:49.100
  • cool people.
  • 00:59:49.100 --> 00:59:50.200
  • the--when I rode the bull in
  • 00:59:52.220 --> 00:59:54.070
  • church, I guess?
  • 00:59:54.070 --> 00:59:55.050
  • - Dwight: Yes.
  • 00:59:55.050 --> 00:59:55.230
  • And do we have that one, don't
  • 00:59:55.230 --> 00:59:56.140
  • we?
  • 00:59:56.140 --> 00:59:56.290
  • - Lawrence: I think so.
  • 00:59:56.290 --> 00:59:58.140
  • - Dwight: I think we have that
  • 00:59:58.140 --> 00:59:59.060
  • one then, okay.
  • 00:59:59.060 --> 01:00:00.030
  • So you can set that up whenever
  • 01:00:00.030 --> 01:00:00.250
  • you're ready for it.
  • 01:00:00.250 --> 01:00:01.160
  • - Lawrence: Okay, the year
  • 01:00:01.160 --> 01:00:02.080
  • before, I broke a wild horse in
  • 01:00:02.080 --> 01:00:03.270
  • church and we hauled in
  • 01:00:03.270 --> 01:00:06.110
  • some--took a couple hundred
  • 01:00:06.110 --> 01:00:09.060
  • the sanctuary, put down plastic
  • 01:00:11.080 --> 01:00:13.080
  • and plywood, and put--had dirt
  • 01:00:13.080 --> 01:00:15.060
  • hauled in.
  • 01:00:15.060 --> 01:00:16.060
  • Had a round pen and I just broke
  • 01:00:16.060 --> 01:00:18.240
  • a wild horse that was on his way
  • 01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:20.040
  • to the dog food place 'cause
  • 01:00:21.070 --> 01:00:24.070
  • he'd put a few people in the
  • 01:00:24.070 --> 01:00:25.220
  • hospital.
  • 01:00:25.220 --> 01:00:26.250
  • And so I just, you know, did a
  • 01:00:26.250 --> 01:00:28.270
  • sermon about submitting under
  • 01:00:28.270 --> 01:00:30.150
  • the master's hand and said, you
  • 01:00:30.150 --> 01:00:32.170
  • know, he thinks if he submits to
  • 01:00:32.170 --> 01:00:34.080
  • me, he's gonna lose his freedom.
  • 01:00:34.080 --> 01:00:35.250
  • But when he submits to me, he's
  • 01:00:35.250 --> 01:00:37.190
  • gonna find out that he gains
  • 01:00:37.190 --> 01:00:38.280
  • freedom.
  • 01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.000
  • It's just like so many people,
  • 01:00:40.220 --> 01:00:43.220
  • just agree with what Todd was
  • 01:00:43.220 --> 01:00:45.050
  • saying.
  • 01:00:45.050 --> 01:00:45.280
  • Sometimes, I had a--I told a
  • 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.100
  • story in church the other day.
  • 01:00:47.100 --> 01:00:48.170
  • A horse got his legs caught in a
  • 01:00:48.170 --> 01:00:50.280
  • wire fence and if I go to him
  • 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:53.190
  • and I'm saying, "Whoa, whoa,
  • 01:00:53.190 --> 01:00:55.060
  • whoa," he--a horse that don't
  • 01:00:55.060 --> 01:00:57.090
  • trust me will be trying to get
  • 01:00:57.090 --> 01:00:59.110
  • away from me and he's tearing
  • 01:00:59.110 --> 01:01:01.120
  • the hide off his legs.
  • 01:01:01.120 --> 01:01:02.210
  • I've seen 'em tear, you know,
  • 01:01:02.210 --> 01:01:03.230
  • that wire tear and cuttin' into
  • 01:01:03.230 --> 01:01:05.010
  • their flesh.
  • 01:01:05.010 --> 01:01:05.250
  • And what is happenin', he's
  • 01:01:05.250 --> 01:01:07.070
  • running from the only guy who
  • 01:01:07.070 --> 01:01:09.140
  • has the ability to set him free.
  • 01:01:09.140 --> 01:01:11.200
  • And a horse that trusts me will
  • 01:01:11.200 --> 01:01:13.240
  • stand there and let me do
  • 01:01:13.240 --> 01:01:16.030
  • whatever I want because he--and
  • 01:01:16.030 --> 01:01:18.020
  • so many people, they think God
  • 01:01:18.020 --> 01:01:19.180
  • wants to take away their fun and
  • 01:01:19.180 --> 01:01:21.080
  • God wants 'em to move to Africa
  • 01:01:21.080 --> 01:01:22.170
  • and marry a woman they hate,
  • 01:01:22.170 --> 01:01:24.230
  • you know.
  • 01:01:24.230 --> 01:01:25.170
  • But you're running from the guy
  • 01:01:25.290 --> 01:01:28.290
  • that can set you free.
  • 01:01:28.290 --> 01:01:30.270
  • He's not here to take out your
  • 01:01:30.270 --> 01:01:32.030
  • fun, you know, and to make you
  • 01:01:32.030 --> 01:01:33.160
  • miserable.
  • 01:01:33.160 --> 01:01:34.170
  • So that was kind of the message
  • 01:01:34.170 --> 01:01:36.020
  • on that that I did a couple of
  • 01:01:36.020 --> 01:01:38.070
  • years ago so ABC "Nightline"
  • 01:01:38.070 --> 01:01:39.270
  • called me--am I allowed to say
  • 01:01:39.270 --> 01:01:41.250
  • that?
  • 01:01:41.250 --> 01:01:42.150
  • And asked me if I would do it
  • 01:01:42.150 --> 01:01:43.230
  • again but if I would do it on a
  • 01:01:43.230 --> 01:01:45.190
  • bull next time.
  • 01:01:45.190 --> 01:01:47.110
  • So I said, "Sure, I rode bulls
  • 01:01:47.110 --> 01:01:49.170
  • in PRCA for years but I hadn't
  • 01:01:49.170 --> 01:01:51.160
  • been on one since, like, the
  • 01:01:51.160 --> 01:01:52.120
  • '90s.
  • 01:01:52.120 --> 01:01:53.110
  • I rode broncs 'til, like, '08 in
  • 01:01:53.110 --> 01:01:55.180
  • the PRCA but hadn't been on a
  • 01:01:55.180 --> 01:01:57.040
  • bull in a long time so I got a
  • 01:01:57.040 --> 01:01:58.250
  • one practice bull at my house
  • 01:01:58.250 --> 01:02:01.000
  • and it went well so I thought,
  • 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:02.070
  • "I can still do this," even
  • 01:02:02.070 --> 01:02:03.020
  • though I was kinda too fat and,
  • 01:02:03.020 --> 01:02:04.290
  • you know, too old, whatever.
  • 01:02:04.290 --> 01:02:07.210
  • So we did it and I guess I'll
  • 01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:12.040
  • show the clip but I wish Frank
  • 01:02:12.040 --> 01:02:13.270
  • Newsom would have been there but
  • 01:02:13.270 --> 01:02:15.230
  • that's--yeah, we can show that.
  • 01:02:15.240 --> 01:02:18.240
  • Then I'll tell you what
  • 01:02:18.240 --> 01:02:19.200
  • happened.
  • 01:02:19.200 --> 01:02:20.100
  • - Dwight: Okay, just take a
  • 01:02:20.100 --> 01:02:21.000
  • look--
  • 01:02:21.140 --> 01:02:24.140
  • [screaming]
  • 01:02:36.140 --> 01:02:38.010
  • - Lawrence: I did this to get
  • 01:02:38.010 --> 01:02:39.260
  • you in the house to tell you
  • 01:02:40.010 --> 01:02:43.010
  • Jesus is setting people free.
  • 01:02:43.100 --> 01:02:46.100
  • He's delivering people
  • 01:02:46.100 --> 01:02:47.160
  • from addiction every day.
  • 01:02:47.160 --> 01:02:50.060
  • And let me tell you, all you
  • 01:02:50.060 --> 01:02:51.190
  • have to do is have confidence in
  • 01:02:51.190 --> 01:02:54.030
  • your heavenly Father and rest
  • 01:02:54.030 --> 01:02:56.040
  • assured, like I did under that
  • 01:02:56.040 --> 01:02:57.190
  • bed, that he can whip any devil
  • 01:02:57.190 --> 01:03:00.140
  • that comes up against you.
  • 01:03:00.140 --> 01:03:02.150
  • - Lawrence: I wanna pray
  • 01:03:02.150 --> 01:03:03.150
  • this prayer again.
  • 01:03:03.150 --> 01:03:04.090
  • Everyone shout, "Dear Jesus,
  • 01:03:04.090 --> 01:03:07.000
  • come into my heart.
  • 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:09.240
  • Forgive me of my sins.
  • 01:03:09.240 --> 01:03:12.180
  • I believe you're the Son of God
  • 01:03:13.010 --> 01:03:16.010
  • that died on the cross
  • 01:03:16.030 --> 01:03:19.030
  • and rose again.
  • 01:03:19.030 --> 01:03:21.070
  • Thank you for saving me, Jesus."
  • 01:03:21.070 --> 01:03:24.070
  • - Dwight: I saw that on ABC
  • 01:03:24.070 --> 01:03:25.050
  • "Nightline."
  • 01:03:25.050 --> 01:03:26.250
  • I saw that.
  • 01:03:26.250 --> 01:03:27.290
  • Now, what I wanna say is even
  • 01:03:28.090 --> 01:03:31.090
  • Frank--I can see why Frank
  • 01:03:31.230 --> 01:03:34.230
  • needed to be there right then.
  • 01:03:34.230 --> 01:03:36.070
  • - Lawrence: I couldn't afford
  • 01:03:36.070 --> 01:03:37.000
  • him.
  • 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:38.000
  • - Dwight: You couldn't afford
  • 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:38.210
  • him.
  • 01:03:38.210 --> 01:03:39.050
  • - Lawrence: I got the discount
  • 01:03:39.050 --> 01:03:39.270
  • bull fighters.
  • 01:03:39.270 --> 01:03:41.080
  • - Dwight: But I was thinking
  • 01:03:41.080 --> 01:03:43.050
  • about you got up anyway and you
  • 01:03:43.050 --> 01:03:45.250
  • stood up there and delivered
  • 01:03:45.250 --> 01:03:47.250
  • your message and I happen to
  • 01:03:47.250 --> 01:03:50.080
  • know for a fact hundreds came to
  • 01:03:50.080 --> 01:03:51.240
  • the Lord Jesus Christ that
  • 01:03:51.240 --> 01:03:53.180
  • night.
  • 01:03:53.180 --> 01:03:54.160
  • - Lawrence: Praise God.
  • 01:03:54.160 --> 01:03:55.040
  • - Dwight: But the point that I
  • 01:03:55.040 --> 01:03:56.230
  • wanna make is the length that
  • 01:03:56.230 --> 01:03:58.240
  • you went to in order to get
  • 01:03:58.240 --> 01:04:01.130
  • people in there so you could
  • 01:04:01.130 --> 01:04:03.160
  • tell them about Jesus Christ.
  • 01:04:03.160 --> 01:04:05.250
  • That's what church ought to do.
  • 01:04:05.250 --> 01:04:08.030
  • Do what you gotta do to get 'em
  • 01:04:08.030 --> 01:04:09.130
  • in there to win 'em to Christ.
  • 01:04:09.130 --> 01:04:11.090
  • - Lawrence: Well, one thing I
  • 01:04:11.090 --> 01:04:12.230
  • said that I guess was maybe some
  • 01:04:12.230 --> 01:04:15.010
  • people thought it was profound
  • 01:04:15.010 --> 01:04:17.120
  • or powerful, it was just I said,
  • 01:04:17.120 --> 01:04:18.290
  • "Look, we don't care if you
  • 01:04:18.290 --> 01:04:21.000
  • We don't care if you smell
  • 01:04:23.040 --> 01:04:23.230
  • like weed.
  • 01:04:23.230 --> 01:04:24.220
  • I don't care if you committed
  • 01:04:24.220 --> 01:04:25.170
  • adultery 2 hours ago.
  • 01:04:25.170 --> 01:04:26.280
  • Just come in the house.
  • 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:28.230
  • We don't care if you got needle
  • 01:04:28.230 --> 01:04:30.050
  • tracks in your arm.
  • 01:04:30.050 --> 01:04:31.060
  • Just come through the doors."
  • 01:04:31.060 --> 01:04:32.190
  • A lot of people say, "Well, I
  • 01:04:32.190 --> 01:04:34.090
  • can't--I don't wanna come to
  • 01:04:34.090 --> 01:04:35.140
  • church because I don't wanna be
  • 01:04:35.140 --> 01:04:36.170
  • a hypocrite."
  • 01:04:36.170 --> 01:04:37.260
  • And I'm saying--and they're,
  • 01:04:37.260 --> 01:04:39.010
  • like, "Oh, I'm still getting
  • 01:04:39.010 --> 01:04:39.270
  • high, I'm still getting drunk.
  • 01:04:39.270 --> 01:04:41.020
  • I'm living with a girl I'm not
  • 01:04:41.020 --> 01:04:41.230
  • married to.
  • 01:04:41.230 --> 01:04:42.180
  • I don't wanna come to church."
  • 01:04:42.180 --> 01:04:43.130
  • I'm saying, "So what you're
  • 01:04:43.130 --> 01:04:44.120
  • telling me is if you break your
  • 01:04:44.120 --> 01:04:45.250
  • leg, you're gonna wait until it
  • 01:04:45.250 --> 01:04:47.090
  • hospital?"
  • 01:04:49.150 --> 01:04:51.110
  • - Frank: Right.
  • 01:04:51.110 --> 01:04:52.040
  • - Dwight: Say that.
  • 01:04:52.040 --> 01:04:52.250
  • - Lawrence: Jesus said,
  • 01:04:52.250 --> 01:04:53.210
  • "Come just as you are.
  • 01:04:53.210 --> 01:04:55.130
  • Come high."
  • 01:04:55.130 --> 01:04:56.230
  • We have 'em come to church,
  • 01:04:56.230 --> 01:04:58.140
  • nodding out on heroin.
  • 01:04:58.140 --> 01:04:59.290
  • We have 'em come and smell like
  • 01:04:59.290 --> 01:05:01.150
  • alcohol, smell like weed.
  • 01:05:01.150 --> 01:05:03.090
  • We don't care.
  • 01:05:03.090 --> 01:05:04.040
  • We just say, "Keep coming
  • 01:05:04.040 --> 01:05:05.070
  • through the doors."
  • 01:05:05.070 --> 01:05:06.030
  • And you know, even if you fall
  • 01:05:06.030 --> 01:05:08.290
  • and people will come up to me,
  • 01:05:08.290 --> 01:05:10.260
  • they'll say, "Pastor, you know,
  • 01:05:10.260 --> 01:05:12.110
  • I was clean off heroin for 3
  • 01:05:12.110 --> 01:05:13.200
  • months, 4 months, I got high
  • 01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:15.160
  • last night."
  • 01:05:15.160 --> 01:05:16.090
  • They'll call me.
  • 01:05:16.090 --> 01:05:17.010
  • "I messed up again."
  • 01:05:17.010 --> 01:05:18.120
  • Keep coming through the doors.
  • 01:05:18.120 --> 01:05:19.280
  • Keep coming.
  • 01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:20.240
  • Keep coming, keep coming, keep
  • 01:05:20.240 --> 01:05:21.280
  • coming.
  • 01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:23.120
  • If we can--and you know, I
  • 01:05:24.020 --> 01:05:27.020
  • didn't really particularly wanna
  • 01:05:27.020 --> 01:05:28.030
  • get on a bull in church but
  • 01:05:28.030 --> 01:05:29.270
  • here's what the thing that I
  • 01:05:29.270 --> 01:05:31.190
  • feel.
  • 01:05:31.210 --> 01:05:34.210
  • I grew up in a Christian home, a
  • 01:05:34.210 --> 01:05:36.120
  • Christian great church, pastor
  • 01:05:36.170 --> 01:05:39.170
  • parents, Christian music all in
  • 01:05:39.170 --> 01:05:42.030
  • the house, Christian TV all in
  • 01:05:42.030 --> 01:05:44.050
  • the home, Dwight Thompson on the
  • 01:05:44.050 --> 01:05:45.200
  • TV in my home.
  • 01:05:45.200 --> 01:05:47.010
  • So you know, I had--I've been
  • 01:05:47.010 --> 01:05:49.110
  • given much.
  • 01:05:49.110 --> 01:05:50.240
  • Darlene Bishop as a mother.
  • 01:05:50.240 --> 01:05:53.090
  • She could smell if you sinned.
  • 01:05:53.090 --> 01:05:55.160
  • She would look at me and say,
  • 01:05:55.160 --> 01:05:57.280
  • "Where did you go last night?"
  • 01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.170
  • I could tell her something as
  • 01:05:59.170 --> 01:06:00.260
  • a teenager, she'd be, like, "The
  • 01:06:00.260 --> 01:06:02.150
  • Holy Ghost just told me you were
  • 01:06:02.150 --> 01:06:03.270
  • with so-and-so and you did this,
  • 01:06:03.270 --> 01:06:05.220
  • and--" you know.
  • 01:06:05.220 --> 01:06:06.210
  • I didn't have a chance to
  • 01:06:06.210 --> 01:06:08.080
  • backslide.
  • 01:06:08.080 --> 01:06:09.070
  • So I have been given much so I
  • 01:06:10.160 --> 01:06:13.160
  • feel that I owe a huge debt to
  • 01:06:14.120 --> 01:06:17.120
  • people that grew up in a
  • 01:06:17.120 --> 01:06:19.090
  • alcoholic home with parents that
  • 01:06:19.090 --> 01:06:21.080
  • are shooting up, with a mom that
  • 01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:22.250
  • cheated on dad when dad was at
  • 01:06:22.250 --> 01:06:24.050
  • work and dad that cheated on mom
  • 01:06:24.050 --> 01:06:25.120
  • when mom was at work and they
  • 01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:26.270
  • had alcohol in the 'fridge and
  • 01:06:26.270 --> 01:06:28.150
  • they had porno on the TV and
  • 01:06:28.150 --> 01:06:30.130
  • they--see, everybody didn't have
  • 01:06:30.130 --> 01:06:32.050
  • the opportunity that I have.
  • 01:06:32.050 --> 01:06:33.240
  • So think about in Matthew at
  • 01:06:33.240 --> 01:06:35.140
  • chapter 18, the parable of the
  • 01:06:35.140 --> 01:06:37.040
  • wicked servant.
  • 01:06:37.040 --> 01:06:38.190
  • One was forgiven of a huge
  • 01:06:38.190 --> 01:06:40.130
  • enormous debt and so then he
  • 01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:43.200
  • thanks the master and he goes
  • 01:06:43.200 --> 01:06:46.000
  • out and he grabs a guy by the
  • 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:47.160
  • neck that owes him just a few
  • 01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:48.290
  • hundred dollars.
  • 01:06:48.290 --> 01:06:50.150
  • You know that story.
  • 01:06:50.150 --> 01:06:51.140
  • We always preach about that when
  • 01:06:51.140 --> 01:06:52.190
  • we're talking about forgiveness.
  • 01:06:52.190 --> 01:06:54.200
  • But look at that story through
  • 01:06:54.200 --> 01:06:55.240
  • the lens of an evangelist.
  • 01:06:55.240 --> 01:06:57.150
  • And let's talk about compassion.
  • 01:06:57.150 --> 01:06:59.090
  • I have been forgiven all my debt
  • 01:06:59.090 --> 01:07:01.200
  • because I know Jesus.
  • 01:07:01.200 --> 01:07:03.000
  • It would be for me not to tell
  • 01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.120
  • everyone I see, would be like if
  • 01:07:05.120 --> 01:07:07.200
  • you and I had the same bank and
  • 01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:09.070
  • I went to the bank and they
  • 01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:10.100
  • said, "Hey, today only, all you
  • 01:07:10.110 --> 01:07:13.110
  • have to do is write your name on
  • 01:07:13.110 --> 01:07:14.080
  • this paper and all your debts
  • 01:07:14.080 --> 01:07:16.000
  • are forgiven."
  • 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:16.260
  • Maybe you go to that bank and
  • 01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:18.200
  • you have some huge debt.
  • 01:07:18.200 --> 01:07:20.020
  • I don't tell you about it.
  • 01:07:20.020 --> 01:07:21.130
  • Why should I care?
  • 01:07:21.130 --> 01:07:22.080
  • I got all my debt erased but I
  • 01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:24.030
  • don't--if I'm a friend, I owe
  • 01:07:24.030 --> 01:07:26.140
  • you the information that you can
  • 01:07:26.140 --> 01:07:28.190
  • get the same debt that I got.
  • 01:07:28.190 --> 01:07:30.170
  • So the way--I preached a series
  • 01:07:31.100 --> 01:07:34.100
  • in church called, "I Owe Them
  • 01:07:34.100 --> 01:07:35.260
  • Jesus," or "We Owe Them Jesus."
  • 01:07:35.260 --> 01:07:38.090
  • I've been--I got too many
  • 01:07:38.090 --> 01:07:39.220
  • concussions too.
  • 01:07:39.220 --> 01:07:40.260
  • But I thought brother--
  • 01:07:41.100 --> 01:07:44.100
  • Pastor Jeffress was in my cab
  • 01:07:44.100 --> 01:07:46.170
  • on the way here.
  • 01:07:46.170 --> 01:07:47.260
  • Well, and I--me and my wife,
  • 01:07:47.260 --> 01:07:49.180
  • Saleena, were just staring at
  • 01:07:49.180 --> 01:07:50.200
  • each other, couldn't believe it.
  • 01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:52.030
  • We had a Muslim cab driver.
  • 01:07:52.030 --> 01:07:54.060
  • And so I was tell--asking him, I
  • 01:07:54.060 --> 01:07:57.020
  • said, "Who does your Bible say
  • 01:07:57.020 --> 01:07:58.050
  • that Jesus is?"
  • 01:07:58.050 --> 01:07:59.060
  • He said, "It says that Jesus
  • 01:07:59.060 --> 01:08:00.290
  • is a prophet."
  • 01:08:00.290 --> 01:08:02.020
  • I said, "Does it say he was
  • 01:08:02.020 --> 01:08:03.130
  • a false prophet?"
  • 01:08:03.130 --> 01:08:04.150
  • "No, he was a good prophet."
  • 01:08:04.150 --> 01:08:05.240
  • I said, "Do you know what
  • 01:08:05.240 --> 01:08:06.200
  • a prophet is?
  • 01:08:06.200 --> 01:08:07.140
  • It's a messenger from God."
  • 01:08:07.140 --> 01:08:09.170
  • "Yes, it's a messenger from
  • 01:08:09.170 --> 01:08:10.120
  • God."
  • 01:08:10.120 --> 01:08:11.040
  • "Do you know what the good
  • 01:08:11.040 --> 01:08:12.250
  • prophet, the messenger from God,
  • 01:08:12.250 --> 01:08:15.030
  • said?
  • 01:08:15.030 --> 01:08:16.060
  • He said, 'I am the way,
  • 01:08:16.060 --> 01:08:18.020
  • the truth, and the life.
  • 01:08:18.020 --> 01:08:19.220
  • No man comes to God but by me.'
  • 01:08:19.220 --> 01:08:21.180
  • If he tries any other way,
  • 01:08:21.180 --> 01:08:22.240
  • he's the same as a thief and a
  • 01:08:22.240 --> 01:08:24.000
  • robber.
  • 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:24.260
  • So your Bible cannot possibly be
  • 01:08:24.260 --> 01:08:26.190
  • right.
  • 01:08:26.190 --> 01:08:28.000
  • He cannot be a good prophet and
  • 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:29.120
  • not be the Son of God.
  • 01:08:29.120 --> 01:08:31.120
  • He is either a liar or he is the
  • 01:08:31.120 --> 01:08:33.220
  • Lord, and there is no in
  • 01:08:33.220 --> 01:08:35.110
  • between."
  • 01:08:35.110 --> 01:08:36.090
  • He said, "I never looked at
  • 01:08:36.090 --> 01:08:37.150
  • that like that before."
  • 01:08:37.150 --> 01:08:39.040
  • Then I begin to tell him the
  • 01:08:39.040 --> 01:08:40.120
  • same thing Pastor Jeffress.
  • 01:08:40.120 --> 01:08:41.240
  • Allah and Jehovah are not the
  • 01:08:41.240 --> 01:08:43.140
  • same.
  • 01:08:43.140 --> 01:08:44.070
  • Allah has no sons.
  • 01:08:44.070 --> 01:08:45.110
  • Jehovah has a Son named Jesus.
  • 01:08:45.110 --> 01:08:46.290
  • "You believe the same God that
  • 01:08:46.290 --> 01:08:48.100
  • made you made me?"
  • 01:08:48.100 --> 01:08:50.020
  • He said, "Yes."
  • 01:08:50.020 --> 01:08:50.220
  • "So there's one God?"
  • 01:08:50.220 --> 01:08:51.230
  • And I said, "To deny the Son
  • 01:08:51.230 --> 01:08:53.190
  • is to deny God Jehovah of the
  • 01:08:53.190 --> 01:08:56.130
  • Bible.
  • 01:08:56.130 --> 01:08:57.160
  • You are taking one man's
  • 01:08:57.160 --> 01:08:59.100
  • account, one man, that sat in
  • 01:08:59.100 --> 01:09:02.080
  • a cave and, by your Bible, tried
  • 01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:04.050
  • to commit suicide and throw
  • 01:09:04.050 --> 01:09:05.210
  • himself off a mountain three
  • 01:09:05.210 --> 01:09:07.010
  • times, he was so tormented."
  • 01:09:07.010 --> 01:09:09.030
  • I said, "One man's account.
  • 01:09:09.030 --> 01:09:10.150
  • So you're denying the God of the
  • 01:09:10.150 --> 01:09:11.290
  • Bible, Moses, Elijah, and all
  • 01:09:11.290 --> 01:09:13.230
  • the prophets from around the
  • 01:09:13.230 --> 01:09:15.060
  • world, this book that does not
  • 01:09:15.060 --> 01:09:16.260
  • contradict itself one time.
  • 01:09:16.260 --> 01:09:18.130
  • Think about what you're doing."
  • 01:09:18.130 --> 01:09:20.020
  • So he got silent for a long
  • 01:09:20.020 --> 01:09:21.090
  • time.
  • 01:09:21.090 --> 01:09:22.020
  • And when we got out, he walked
  • 01:09:22.020 --> 01:09:23.000
  • around the cab and he grabbed me
  • 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.200
  • and hugged me for a long time.
  • 01:09:25.200 --> 01:09:27.290
  • And he said, "Thank you,
  • 01:09:27.290 --> 01:09:29.050
  • brother, thank you."
  • 01:09:29.050 --> 01:09:30.030
  • And he backed up.
  • 01:09:30.030 --> 01:09:31.020
  • I said, "Are you ready to
  • 01:09:31.020 --> 01:09:31.260
  • receive Jesus as your Savior?"
  • 01:09:31.260 --> 01:09:33.200
  • He looked at me and he said,
  • 01:09:33.200 --> 01:09:35.190
  • "I already did it."
  • 01:09:35.190 --> 01:09:36.240
  • So look, it is--
  • 01:09:39.080 --> 01:09:42.080
  • - Dwight: Hallelujah.
  • 01:09:42.080 --> 01:09:43.150
  • - Lawrence: It is easy.
  • 01:09:43.150 --> 01:09:44.120
  • - Dwight: Hallelujah!
  • 01:09:44.120 --> 01:09:45.060
  • - Lawrence: Easy.
  • 01:09:45.060 --> 01:09:46.080
  • Easy to lead people to Jesus
  • 01:09:46.080 --> 01:09:48.030
  • when you're not afraid to stand
  • 01:09:48.030 --> 01:09:50.090
  • up and you know what you know
  • 01:09:50.090 --> 01:09:51.150
  • about the Word of God.
  • 01:09:51.150 --> 01:09:52.270
  • I was in Cincinnati 2 nights
  • 01:09:52.270 --> 01:09:54.240
  • ago, me and Pastor Billy Price
  • 01:09:54.240 --> 01:09:56.050
  • that does "Hope Over Heroin"
  • 01:09:56.050 --> 01:09:57.030
  • with me.
  • 01:09:57.030 --> 01:09:58.020
  • And a girl come up to me
  • 01:09:58.020 --> 01:10:00.020
  • and she's got her hustle, "Hey,
  • 01:10:00.020 --> 01:10:01.200
  • can I have a couple bucks for
  • 01:10:01.200 --> 01:10:03.090
  • a bus ticket?
  • 01:10:03.090 --> 01:10:04.000
  • I lost, you know--" I said,
  • 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:04.250
  • "Honey, save your hustle."
  • 01:10:04.250 --> 01:10:06.130
  • I said, "Are you on Suboxone,
  • 01:10:06.130 --> 01:10:08.180
  • Are you using heroin right now?
  • 01:10:11.200 --> 01:10:13.030
  • And her eyes got this big.
  • 01:10:13.030 --> 01:10:14.010
  • She's like, "Oh, he knows what
  • 01:10:14.010 --> 01:10:15.050
  • he's talkin' about."
  • 01:10:15.050 --> 01:10:15.270
  • I said, "I deal with heroin
  • 01:10:15.270 --> 01:10:16.190
  • addicts all the time."
  • 01:10:16.190 --> 01:10:18.140
  • She said, "I'm on Suboxone."
  • 01:10:18.140 --> 01:10:19.280
  • Long story short, we led her
  • 01:10:19.280 --> 01:10:21.140
  • to Jesus, prayed for her.
  • 01:10:21.140 --> 01:10:22.230
  • When we looked up, there's
  • 01:10:22.230 --> 01:10:24.030
  • another heroin addict standing
  • 01:10:24.030 --> 01:10:25.160
  • next to us.
  • 01:10:25.160 --> 01:10:26.060
  • "Could you pray for me also?"
  • 01:10:26.060 --> 01:10:27.180
  • We're praying for him, another
  • 01:10:27.180 --> 01:10:28.200
  • Another one comes.
  • 01:10:30.220 --> 01:10:31.280
  • Another one comes.
  • 01:10:31.280 --> 01:10:32.260
  • We're laying hands on people,
  • 01:10:32.260 --> 01:10:34.050
  • praying for 'em in this--at
  • 01:10:34.050 --> 01:10:35.260
  • a busy intersection at 6th and
  • 01:10:35.260 --> 01:10:37.160
  • Plum in right downtown
  • 01:10:37.160 --> 01:10:38.190
  • Cincinnati.
  • 01:10:38.190 --> 01:10:39.270
  • You know why?
  • 01:10:39.270 --> 01:10:40.220
  • Because we owe them.
  • 01:10:40.220 --> 01:10:43.120
  • We have been given much.
  • 01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:44.220
  • You cannot just sit and eat your
  • 01:10:44.220 --> 01:10:46.170
  • dinner and not tell that
  • 01:10:46.170 --> 01:10:47.290
  • waitress about Jesus.
  • 01:10:47.290 --> 01:10:49.250
  • How are you going to tell me
  • 01:10:49.250 --> 01:10:51.160
  • that you have been given
  • 01:10:51.160 --> 01:10:54.130
  • the life eternal and you're not
  • 01:10:54.130 --> 01:10:56.180
  • sharing it with everybody
  • 01:10:56.180 --> 01:10:58.100
  • you see?
  • 01:10:58.100 --> 01:11:00.180
  • We owe 'em Jesus.
  • 01:11:00.180 --> 01:11:01.170
  • - Dwight: We owe them
  • 01:11:01.170 --> 01:11:02.110
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 01:11:02.110 --> 01:11:03.180
  • - Lawrence: We owe 'em.
  • 01:11:03.180 --> 01:11:04.100
  • - Dwight: How in the world
  • 01:11:04.100 --> 01:11:06.070
  • can we keep quiet?
  • 01:11:06.070 --> 01:11:07.280
  • You may say, "Well,
  • 01:11:07.280 --> 01:11:08.250
  • I'm not a preacher."
  • 01:11:08.250 --> 01:11:09.240
  • Being a preacher has nothing
  • 01:11:09.240 --> 01:11:11.010
  • to do with it.
  • 01:11:11.010 --> 01:11:12.010
  • I've never been to some kind of
  • 01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:13.100
  • school of divinity or some
  • 01:11:13.100 --> 01:11:14.190
  • theological seminary.
  • 01:11:14.190 --> 01:11:16.150
  • You don't have to be.
  • 01:11:16.150 --> 01:11:17.250
  • Here's the one thing
  • 01:11:17.250 --> 01:11:18.260
  • we all have in common.
  • 01:11:18.260 --> 01:11:20.190
  • We all have a testimony.
  • 01:11:20.190 --> 01:11:23.100
  • What Christ has done for me, he
  • 01:11:23.190 --> 01:11:26.190
  • will do for you.
  • 01:11:26.190 --> 01:11:28.290
  • - Lawrence: Amen.
  • 01:11:28.290 --> 01:11:30.070
  • - Dwight: All right, let's just
  • 01:11:30.070 --> 01:11:31.040
  • take a couple of minutes, Frank,
  • 01:11:31.040 --> 01:11:34.010
  • Todd, and Lawrence again.
  • 01:11:34.010 --> 01:11:36.080
  • Now, you heard everything
  • 01:11:36.080 --> 01:11:38.170
  • going on tonight.
  • 01:11:38.170 --> 01:11:40.030
  • Frank, what would you like to
  • 01:11:40.030 --> 01:11:42.020
  • say to people, looking into
  • 01:11:42.020 --> 01:11:43.070
  • this camera right now?
  • 01:11:43.070 --> 01:11:44.280
  • What Christ has done for you and
  • 01:11:44.280 --> 01:11:46.080
  • Just talk to us about that
  • 01:11:48.100 --> 01:11:49.070
  • a couple of minutes.
  • 01:11:49.070 --> 01:11:50.140
  • - Frank: I don't know.
  • 01:11:50.140 --> 01:11:51.020
  • Probably the one thing would be
  • 01:11:51.020 --> 01:11:52.050
  • to commit to him, to follow him.
  • 01:11:52.050 --> 01:11:54.270
  • I knew about him growing up.
  • 01:11:54.270 --> 01:11:56.270
  • I knew, and I did kind of make
  • 01:11:56.270 --> 01:11:58.250
  • a commitment but it was kind of
  • 01:11:58.250 --> 01:11:59.290
  • that on Sunday kind of
  • 01:11:59.290 --> 01:12:01.210
  • commitment, you know?
  • 01:12:01.210 --> 01:12:02.170
  • And as I got older, I took on
  • 01:12:02.170 --> 01:12:04.150
  • followed a lot of other ways and
  • 01:12:06.200 --> 01:12:09.070
  • ended up taking me down a lot of
  • 01:12:09.070 --> 01:12:10.250
  • wrong roads but whenever I, you
  • 01:12:10.250 --> 01:12:13.000
  • know, I pretty much ruined
  • 01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.150
  • my whole life by following,
  • 01:12:14.150 --> 01:12:17.010
  • you know, alcohol, you know,
  • 01:12:17.010 --> 01:12:20.010
  • addictions, you know?
  • 01:12:20.010 --> 01:12:21.080
  • And pretty much just following
  • 01:12:21.080 --> 01:12:23.010
  • that instinct.
  • 01:12:23.010 --> 01:12:24.030
  • And when I finally give that up
  • 01:12:24.030 --> 01:12:26.210
  • and just made the decision that
  • 01:12:26.210 --> 01:12:29.110
  • I need help, I need you.
  • 01:12:29.110 --> 01:12:31.060
  • And I knew who he was, you know,
  • 01:12:31.060 --> 01:12:32.260
  • and God put me in the right
  • 01:12:32.260 --> 01:12:34.260
  • person at the right time, you
  • 01:12:34.260 --> 01:12:37.020
  • know?
  • 01:12:37.020 --> 01:12:37.250
  • And he introduced me to another
  • 01:12:37.250 --> 01:12:39.240
  • man that was willing--he was a
  • 01:12:39.240 --> 01:12:42.060
  • godly man.
  • 01:12:42.060 --> 01:12:43.060
  • He was willing to take me into
  • 01:12:43.060 --> 01:12:44.090
  • his home and started getting me
  • 01:12:44.090 --> 01:12:45.230
  • reintroduced to God and who he
  • 01:12:45.230 --> 01:12:47.230
  • was and I knew, you know, and
  • 01:12:47.230 --> 01:12:49.070
  • yeah, I'd remember him and I
  • 01:12:49.070 --> 01:12:50.240
  • want him now.
  • 01:12:50.240 --> 01:12:51.260
  • I want him now.
  • 01:12:51.260 --> 01:12:53.010
  • And the more I commit to him,
  • 01:12:53.010 --> 01:12:54.240
  • the more he shows me who he is.
  • 01:12:54.240 --> 01:12:56.280
  • You know, there was a time when
  • 01:12:56.280 --> 01:12:58.130
  • it was just trying to get
  • 01:12:58.130 --> 01:12:59.190
  • through a day sober.
  • 01:12:59.190 --> 01:13:00.250
  • You know, now, man, I got a
  • 01:13:00.250 --> 01:13:02.290
  • wife, I've got a beautiful wife,
  • 01:13:02.290 --> 01:13:05.080
  • I've got three beautiful kids.
  • 01:13:05.080 --> 01:13:06.250
  • I've got all these blessings,
  • 01:13:06.250 --> 01:13:08.070
  • you know?
  • 01:13:08.070 --> 01:13:08.290
  • He give me my life, you know, my
  • 01:13:08.290 --> 01:13:10.000
  • job, my career, back, you know,
  • 01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:11.260
  • that I love.
  • 01:13:11.260 --> 01:13:13.040
  • I'm 41 years old and everybody,
  • 01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:15.060
  • you know, the other night I get
  • 01:13:15.060 --> 01:13:16.170
  • knocked out and everybody's,
  • 01:13:16.170 --> 01:13:17.200
  • like, "When--aren't you gonna
  • 01:13:17.200 --> 01:13:18.150
  • retire?
  • 01:13:18.150 --> 01:13:19.060
  • Doesn't that--" I was, like,
  • 01:13:19.060 --> 01:13:20.120
  • "Man, yeah, you know, that hurts
  • 01:13:20.120 --> 01:13:21.200
  • but you don't understand.
  • 01:13:21.200 --> 01:13:22.290
  • I mean, you just can't--I can't
  • 01:13:22.290 --> 01:13:24.030
  • make you understand what God put
  • 01:13:24.030 --> 01:13:26.040
  • in me that I love what I do and
  • 01:13:26.040 --> 01:13:27.250
  • he lets me, you know, he showed
  • 01:13:27.250 --> 01:13:29.230
  • me the value of it, you know?
  • 01:13:30.160 --> 01:13:33.160
  • I get to be here with you,
  • 01:13:34.220 --> 01:13:37.220
  • you know what I mean?
  • 01:13:37.220 --> 01:13:38.190
  • I get, you know, what I do,
  • 01:13:38.190 --> 01:13:40.190
  • there's kids that I don't even
  • 01:13:40.190 --> 01:13:42.040
  • know that wanna hear everything
  • 01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:43.290
  • I say.
  • 01:13:43.290 --> 01:13:44.170
  • You know what I mean?
  • 01:13:44.170 --> 01:13:45.170
  • So I can tell 'em about the
  • 01:13:45.170 --> 01:13:46.140
  • Lord.
  • 01:13:46.140 --> 01:13:47.020
  • I--there's a kid that was put
  • 01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:48.170
  • into my life when he was 11
  • 01:13:48.170 --> 01:13:49.290
  • years old and he lives right
  • 01:13:49.290 --> 01:13:52.090
  • there by the house.
  • 01:13:52.090 --> 01:13:53.050
  • His name's Cody Webster.
  • 01:13:53.050 --> 01:13:54.120
  • And now he's one of the greatest
  • 01:13:54.120 --> 01:13:55.200
  • bullfighters living.
  • 01:13:55.200 --> 01:13:56.290
  • He's 23 years old and he's
  • 01:13:56.290 --> 01:13:58.080
  • working all these great rodeos
  • 01:13:58.080 --> 01:13:59.230
  • and he's--I'm getting to work
  • 01:13:59.230 --> 01:14:01.240
  • with him and he's making good
  • 01:14:01.240 --> 01:14:03.100
  • money and he's already given his
  • 01:14:03.100 --> 01:14:05.020
  • self to the Lord.
  • 01:14:05.020 --> 01:14:06.070
  • I was actually there when he was
  • 01:14:06.070 --> 01:14:07.030
  • gotten baptized.
  • 01:14:07.030 --> 01:14:08.110
  • And I told him the truth about
  • 01:14:08.110 --> 01:14:09.270
  • life and about Jesus all the way
  • 01:14:09.270 --> 01:14:11.100
  • along.
  • 01:14:11.100 --> 01:14:12.210
  • And to see him make all these
  • 01:14:12.210 --> 01:14:14.040
  • good decisions all the way
  • 01:14:14.040 --> 01:14:15.160
  • along.
  • 01:14:15.160 --> 01:14:16.060
  • - Dwight: That's wonderful.
  • 01:14:16.060 --> 01:14:16.260
  • - Frank: You know, he didn't
  • 01:14:16.260 --> 01:14:17.170
  • have to go through all them dark
  • 01:14:17.170 --> 01:14:18.130
  • places I did whenever I'm making
  • 01:14:18.130 --> 01:14:20.250
  • all them bad decisions, you know
  • 01:14:20.250 --> 01:14:22.110
  • what I mean?
  • 01:14:22.110 --> 01:14:23.080
  • So God put what I did wrong
  • 01:14:23.080 --> 01:14:26.070
  • after--once I come to him.
  • 01:14:26.070 --> 01:14:29.020
  • He not only give me my life back
  • 01:14:29.020 --> 01:14:30.190
  • but he also put it to use.
  • 01:14:30.190 --> 01:14:32.250
  • Put all this dark stuff to use.
  • 01:14:32.250 --> 01:14:34.180
  • Because I can tell them kids,
  • 01:14:34.180 --> 01:14:36.050
  • you know, "Don't go down that
  • 01:14:36.050 --> 01:14:37.070
  • road.
  • 01:14:37.070 --> 01:14:37.290
  • You don't want that, you know
  • 01:14:37.290 --> 01:14:38.200
  • what I mean?
  • 01:14:38.200 --> 01:14:40.110
  • Let's do this.
  • 01:14:40.110 --> 01:14:41.110
  • Let's work out every day.
  • 01:14:41.110 --> 01:14:43.030
  • Let's read the Bible every day,
  • 01:14:43.030 --> 01:14:44.140
  • you know what I mean?
  • 01:14:44.140 --> 01:14:45.170
  • If we need strength, let's pray
  • 01:14:45.170 --> 01:14:46.150
  • about it, you know?
  • 01:14:46.150 --> 01:14:47.280
  • Let's have faith, you know?"
  • 01:14:47.280 --> 01:14:49.000
  • And it's just awesome, man.
  • 01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:51.250
  • - Dwight: Ah, praise the Lord
  • 01:14:51.250 --> 01:14:52.240
  • for that, everybody.
  • 01:14:52.240 --> 01:14:54.230
  • Todd, I know that your ministry
  • 01:14:55.130 --> 01:14:58.130
  • also goes into prisons.
  • 01:14:58.130 --> 01:15:00.200
  • And you reach people that it's
  • 01:15:01.200 --> 01:15:04.200
  • just an amazing thing what
  • 01:15:04.200 --> 01:15:06.140
  • happens.
  • 01:15:06.140 --> 01:15:07.180
  • For a couple of minutes here,
  • 01:15:07.180 --> 01:15:08.270
  • tell us a little bit about some
  • 01:15:08.270 --> 01:15:11.110
  • of the results that you've seen.
  • 01:15:11.110 --> 01:15:13.020
  • guess right now I'm probably
  • 01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:18.280
  • just really proud that I'm
  • 01:15:18.280 --> 01:15:21.050
  • sitting here with Frank and if
  • 01:15:21.050 --> 01:15:22.260
  • you wanna know why it is that I
  • 01:15:22.260 --> 01:15:25.140
  • this right here.
  • 01:15:27.180 --> 01:15:28.230
  • And that he's a bullfighter.
  • 01:15:28.230 --> 01:15:31.210
  • We make fun of it.
  • 01:15:31.210 --> 01:15:33.200
  • He's slow-talking, he's not
  • 01:15:33.200 --> 01:15:35.020
  • a preacher or is he?
  • 01:15:35.020 --> 01:15:37.290
  • Because his whole life is a
  • 01:15:37.290 --> 01:15:40.250
  • testimony of the goodness of God
  • 01:15:40.250 --> 01:15:43.020
  • and God has put him in a
  • 01:15:43.020 --> 01:15:44.150
  • platform where people will
  • 01:15:44.150 --> 01:15:45.200
  • listen to him because of
  • 01:15:45.200 --> 01:15:47.060
  • something he does.
  • 01:15:47.060 --> 01:15:48.190
  • And the day he got knocked out,
  • 01:15:48.190 --> 01:15:50.290
  • 2 hours before that, him and his
  • 01:15:50.290 --> 01:15:53.110
  • wife were speaking in a coliseum
  • 01:15:53.110 --> 01:15:55.070
  • event that we did that morning
  • 01:15:55.070 --> 01:15:57.010
  • for our fans, talking about the
  • 01:15:57.010 --> 01:15:59.040
  • goodness of God and the
  • 01:15:59.040 --> 01:16:00.170
  • faithfulness of him and their--
  • 01:16:00.170 --> 01:16:02.220
  • all their trust is in him.
  • 01:16:02.220 --> 01:16:04.100
  • And 2 hours later, the same fans
  • 01:16:04.100 --> 01:16:06.260
  • that got to listen to him give
  • 01:16:06.260 --> 01:16:08.260
  • a--just this powerful Word,
  • 01:16:08.260 --> 01:16:11.250
  • watched him laying, like--and it
  • 01:16:11.250 --> 01:16:14.130
  • was gruesome.
  • 01:16:14.130 --> 01:16:15.010
  • It sounded like he was dying
  • 01:16:15.010 --> 01:16:17.030
  • because he was on his back and
  • 01:16:17.030 --> 01:16:18.230
  • all the blood was going down his
  • 01:16:18.230 --> 01:16:19.280
  • throat and he was choking on it
  • 01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:21.150
  • and he was hollering and the
  • 01:16:21.150 --> 01:16:22.240
  • entire stadium was silent.
  • 01:16:22.240 --> 01:16:24.070
  • It was a horrible thing.
  • 01:16:24.070 --> 01:16:25.210
  • And then right across the fence
  • 01:16:25.210 --> 01:16:27.070
  • from that was his wife, watching
  • 01:16:27.070 --> 01:16:29.180
  • this whole thing going.
  • 01:16:29.180 --> 01:16:30.200
  • And she just sat there and held
  • 01:16:30.200 --> 01:16:32.030
  • the baby and just watched the
  • 01:16:32.030 --> 01:16:33.080
  • whole thing.
  • 01:16:33.080 --> 01:16:34.220
  • And you say you wanna put an
  • 01:16:34.220 --> 01:16:36.020
  • exclamation point on a sermon,
  • 01:16:36.020 --> 01:16:38.240
  • that's what Frank did.
  • 01:16:38.280 --> 01:16:41.280
  • He says, "There's no greater
  • 01:16:41.280 --> 01:16:42.250
  • love than someone that would lay
  • 01:16:42.250 --> 01:16:43.250
  • down their life for their
  • 01:16:43.250 --> 01:16:44.190
  • friend."
  • 01:16:44.190 --> 01:16:45.250
  • And that's what Frank does
  • 01:16:45.250 --> 01:16:48.240
  • all the time.
  • 01:16:48.240 --> 01:16:50.020
  • And so the whole bull riding
  • 01:16:50.020 --> 01:16:52.070
  • community--these are not a whole
  • 01:16:52.070 --> 01:16:53.220
  • bunch of preachers and I don't
  • 01:16:53.220 --> 01:16:54.250
  • even consider myself, you know,
  • 01:16:54.250 --> 01:16:56.230
  • a great preacher, but what we do
  • 01:16:56.230 --> 01:16:58.260
  • have is a platform where God is
  • 01:16:58.290 --> 01:17:02.010
  • wanting to get rid of the
  • 01:17:02.010 --> 01:17:04.040
  • separation between ministry and
  • 01:17:04.040 --> 01:17:05.240
  • occupation that we are all in
  • 01:17:05.240 --> 01:17:07.130
  • the ministry.
  • 01:17:07.130 --> 01:17:08.240
  • We're all what--Jesus said, "I'm
  • 01:17:08.280 --> 01:17:11.280
  • the Word of God made flesh and
  • 01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:13.290
  • I'm gonna dwell among men," and
  • 01:17:13.290 --> 01:17:15.180
  • as we have our minds renewed to
  • 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.000
  • his Word, we're now the Word of
  • 01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:20.130
  • God dwelling among men and we're
  • 01:17:20.130 --> 01:17:22.280
  • visible images of what
  • 01:17:23.190 --> 01:17:26.190
  • God's character's like.
  • 01:17:26.190 --> 01:17:27.290
  • We're the kingdom of God coming
  • 01:17:27.290 --> 01:17:29.040
  • to earth and revealing himself
  • 01:17:29.040 --> 01:17:31.000
  • through people and through
  • 01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:32.090
  • vessels.
  • 01:17:32.090 --> 01:17:33.090
  • And that's not just preachers.
  • 01:17:33.090 --> 01:17:34.260
  • I love the fact that we've got
  • 01:17:34.260 --> 01:17:36.050
  • preachers and TBN and all of
  • 01:17:36.050 --> 01:17:37.180
  • this, but we need the world to
  • 01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:38.270
  • realize the relevance of their
  • 01:17:38.270 --> 01:17:40.180
  • life in the workplace.
  • 01:17:40.180 --> 01:17:41.250
  • And that's why I do what I do
  • 01:17:42.040 --> 01:17:45.040
  • and that's what Riding High
  • 01:17:45.040 --> 01:17:46.180
  • Ministries is about.
  • 01:17:46.180 --> 01:17:47.240
  • We're gonna be in the AT&T
  • 01:17:47.240 --> 01:17:49.170
  • Stadium right here in Dallas.
  • 01:17:49.170 --> 01:17:50.280
  • If you wanna talk about a
  • 01:17:50.280 --> 01:17:52.190
  • platform that the Lord has given
  • 01:17:52.190 --> 01:17:53.250
  • us, the week before,
  • 01:17:53.250 --> 01:17:55.160
  • Greg Laurie's gonna be there
  • 01:17:55.160 --> 01:17:56.260
  • doing his Harvest America event.
  • 01:17:56.260 --> 01:17:58.280
  • And we didn't do anything to
  • 01:17:58.280 --> 01:18:01.160
  • earn that.
  • 01:18:01.160 --> 01:18:02.280
  • We're just doing our job but God
  • 01:18:02.280 --> 01:18:04.280
  • has created a whole organization
  • 01:18:04.280 --> 01:18:06.240
  • that is gonna celebrate the fact
  • 01:18:06.240 --> 01:18:09.050
  • that there's men that love God,
  • 01:18:09.050 --> 01:18:10.220
  • they've been consumed with his
  • 01:18:10.220 --> 01:18:11.220
  • love and they can't help but do
  • 01:18:11.220 --> 01:18:12.280
  • exactly what Lawrence was
  • 01:18:12.280 --> 01:18:14.010
  • saying.
  • 01:18:14.010 --> 01:18:14.240
  • We can't help but tell people
  • 01:18:14.240 --> 01:18:16.170
  • about the love of God.
  • 01:18:16.170 --> 01:18:18.070
  • - Dwight: Wow.
  • 01:18:18.070 --> 01:18:19.140
  • Just think about that.
  • 01:18:19.140 --> 01:18:20.200
  • Think about that.
  • 01:18:20.200 --> 01:18:21.240
  • Well, I just can't believe
  • 01:18:21.240 --> 01:18:23.290
  • how our time's run out.
  • 01:18:23.290 --> 01:18:25.190
  • Lawrence, we've got a couple of
  • 01:18:25.240 --> 01:18:28.240
  • minutes here and where's Mike?
  • 01:18:28.260 --> 01:18:31.260
  • Is he getting ready to sing for
  • 01:18:31.260 --> 01:18:33.010
  • us here in just a moment?
  • 01:18:33.010 --> 01:18:34.040
  • But take a couple of minutes.
  • 01:18:34.040 --> 01:18:35.080
  • Let's call people to Christ
  • 01:18:35.080 --> 01:18:36.200
  • right now.
  • 01:18:36.200 --> 01:18:37.150
  • Let's call 'em to Christ right
  • 01:18:37.150 --> 01:18:38.090
  • now.
  • 01:18:38.090 --> 01:18:39.030
  • Will you do that?
  • 01:18:39.030 --> 01:18:39.230
  • - Lawrence: Yes, absolutely.
  • 01:18:39.230 --> 01:18:40.250
  • - Dwight: Just everybody that's
  • 01:18:40.250 --> 01:18:41.230
  • watching, that's never given
  • 01:18:41.230 --> 01:18:43.110
  • their heart to Christ, maybe you
  • 01:18:43.110 --> 01:18:44.110
  • didn't do it a while ago.
  • 01:18:44.110 --> 01:18:45.180
  • I want you to just listen right
  • 01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:47.040
  • now, about 2 minutes or so.
  • 01:18:47.040 --> 01:18:49.220
  • We've gotta do this.
  • 01:18:49.220 --> 01:18:51.110
  • Let's bring people to Christ and
  • 01:18:51.110 --> 01:18:53.040
  • lead 'em in the sinners' prayer
  • 01:18:53.040 --> 01:18:54.040
  • right now.
  • 01:18:54.040 --> 01:18:55.000
  • - Lawrence: I'd just like to
  • 01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:55.210
  • say before I pray, if you feel
  • 01:18:55.210 --> 01:18:56.230
  • like you're that horse that's
  • 01:18:56.230 --> 01:18:59.040
  • caught in the wire fence of
  • 01:18:59.040 --> 01:19:00.220
  • addiction and you've been
  • 01:19:00.220 --> 01:19:03.050
  • running.
  • 01:19:03.050 --> 01:19:04.100
  • Let me tell you something,
  • 01:19:04.100 --> 01:19:05.090
  • I pray with heroin addicts and
  • 01:19:05.210 --> 01:19:08.210
  • I pray with heroin addicts'
  • 01:19:08.210 --> 01:19:09.210
  • mothers and fathers.
  • 01:19:09.210 --> 01:19:11.080
  • They come to "Hope Over Heroin"
  • 01:19:11.080 --> 01:19:12.170
  • events by the thousands.
  • 01:19:12.170 --> 01:19:14.020
  • And I get down and pray with
  • 01:19:14.130 --> 01:19:17.130
  • parents that have nothing left
  • 01:19:17.130 --> 01:19:18.210
  • but a photograph of their child
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  • that's OD'd on heroin.
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  • I just plead with you whatever
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  • you're caught in, whatever
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  • addiction that you're hung up
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  • in, please don't run from the
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  • only man that can set you free.
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  • Please don't run from Jesus.
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  • He don't want anything but good
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  • for your life and not bad.
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  • So I pray, when you feel that
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  • Holy Spirit draw on you right
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  • now, it's a dangerous thing
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  • to turn this away.
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  • You didn't see this by accident.
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  • It's no coincidence.
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  • There's no coincidences in this
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  • life, and especially when it
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  • comes to the things of God.
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  • So right now, if you're man
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  • enough, if you're woman enough,
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  • how long is it gonna take?
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  • How many more years are you
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  • gonna have to waste?
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  • Say this prayer right now.
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  • You will never stand taller.
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  • "Dear God, in Jesus' name,
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  • forgive me of all my sins.
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  • Come into my heart.
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  • I receive the free gift
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  • that you gave on the cross.
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  • Save me, Jesus.
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  • Cast my sin as far as the East
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  • is to the West.
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  • Remember my sins no more.
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  • And my friends are gonna know
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  • it.
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  • My family's gonna know it.
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  • And the devil's gonna know it,
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  • that I belong to Jesus,
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  • in Jesus' name, amen."
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  • - Dwight: Amen and amen,
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  • amen.
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  • - Lawrence: Thank you, Jesus,
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  • praise God.
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  • Thank you, Jesus.
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  • - Dwight: I want you to tell
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  • Frank and Todd and Lawrence
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  • how much we thank God for their
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  • powerful ministries today.
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  • Give 'em a great big hand.
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  • I mean that.
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  • - male: Thank you for that.
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  • - Dwight: Now, they made it so
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  • simple, so powerful, so clear.
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  • Thank you for bringing
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  • this message to us tonight.
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  • We gotta get you back in here,
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  • that's all I can say.
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  • - Lawrence: We'll just stay.
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  • - Dwight: Oh, my, my, my.
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  • Tell Mike Purkey how much
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  • we love him.
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  • This was Paul Crouch's favorite
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  • song, "Sweet Beulah Land."
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  • Give him a big hand.
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  • Mike Purkey.
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  • - Mike: Hallelujah.
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  • Kind of homesick for a city
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  • to which I've never,
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  • I've never been before.
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  • No sad goodbyes will ever
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  • be spoken 'cause time, it's
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  • not gonna matter anymore.
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  • Now, I can see it.
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  • Yeah, I can.
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  • I see that city, standing
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  • high on a holy hill.
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  • And I must go now to my
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  • homeland where of its glory,
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  • glory, I'll take my fill.
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  • Here's where we're gonna go.
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  • Beulah Land, I'm longing
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  • on thee I'll stand.
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  • There my home
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  • shall be eternal.
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  • sweet Beulah Land.
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  • Hallelujah!
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  • Oh, now, now, I'm looking,
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  • looking for that river
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  • where my faith is
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  • gonna end in sight.
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  • Listen to me.
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  • But there's just a few more,
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  • a few more days to labor.
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  • Then I will take
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  • my heavenly flight.
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  • Beulah Land, I'm longing
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  • for you and someday
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  • on thee I'll stand.
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  • Then my home
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  • shall be eternal.
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  • Beulah Land,
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Praise...
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • - announcer: This program
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  • has been brought to you through
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  • the prayers and contributions of
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  • our faithful partners throughout
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