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September 18, 2020
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  • MATT HAGEE: HELLO,
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  • MATT HAGEE: HELLO,AND WELCOME TO
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  • AND WELCOME TO"THE DIFFERENCE."
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  • "THE DIFFERENCE."TODAY KENDAL AND I
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  • TODAY KENDAL AND IARE SO EXCITED AND ACTUALLY
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  • ARE SO EXCITED AND ACTUALLYHONORED TO HAVE ON SET WITH US
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  • HONORED TO HAVE ON SET WITH USRAVI ZACHARIAS.
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  • RAVI ZACHARIAS.RAVI'S KNOWN AS A GREAT
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  • RAVI'S KNOWN AS A GREATDEFENDER OF THE FAITH.
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  • DEFENDER OF THE FAITH.AND AS A MATTER OF FACT,
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  • AND AS A MATTER OF FACT,REGARDLESS OF THE PLACES THAT
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  • REGARDLESS OF THE PLACES THATHE'S GETTING TO GO TO SHARE
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  • HE'S GETTING TO GO TO SHARETHE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD,
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  • THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD,HE BEGAN AS A SKEPTIC.
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  • HE BEGAN AS A SKEPTIC.BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM
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  • BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIMTHE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU
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  • THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOUHIS STORY.
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  • HIS STORY.RAVI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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  • RAVI, THANK YOU VERY MUCHFOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.
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  • FOR BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.
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  • IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.RAVI ZACHARIAS: NICE SEEING
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  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: NICE SEEINGYOU, MATT.
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  • YOU, MATT.NICE TO SEE YOU, KENDAL.
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  • NICE TO SEE YOU, KENDAL.THANK YOU.
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  • THANK YOU.MATT HAGEE: NOW
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  • MATT HAGEE: NOW"THE LOGIC OF GOD"
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  • "THE LOGIC OF GOD"IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT
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  • IS SOMETHING THAT A LOTOF PEOPLE,
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  • OF PEOPLE,THEY STRUGGLE WITH.
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  • THEY STRUGGLE WITH.AND YOU'VE SHARED A LOT OF
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  • AND YOU'VE SHARED A LOT OFTRUTH IN THESE PAGES THAT HELP
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  • TRUTH IN THESE PAGES THAT HELPPEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHO THEY ARE
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  • PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHO THEY AREAND HOW THEY RELATE TO GOD,
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  • AND HOW THEY RELATE TO GOD,BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING GOD,
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  • BECAUSE UNDERSTANDING GOD,IT'S BEYOND KNOWING.
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  • IT'S BEYOND KNOWING.RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL YOU KNOW
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  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL YOU KNOWTHE ORIGINAL TITLE, MATT,
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  • THE ORIGINAL TITLE, MATT,WAS CALLING IT
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  • WAS CALLING IT"THANK GOD IT'S MONDAY,"
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  • "THANK GOD IT'S MONDAY,"BECAUSE IT CONTAINS,
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  • BECAUSE IT CONTAINS,AS YOU KNOW, 52 DEVOTIONALS.
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  • AS YOU KNOW, 52 DEVOTIONALS.MY DEVOTIONAL STUDIES HAVE
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  • MY DEVOTIONAL STUDIES HAVEVARIED OVER THE YEARS.
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  • VARIED OVER THE YEARS.AND I FOUND IF YOU DO TOO MUCH
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  • AND I FOUND IF YOU DO TOO MUCHEVERY DAY,
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  • EVERY DAY,YOU DON'T REALLY BASK
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  • YOU DON'T REALLY BASKIN THE AFTERGLOW FOR TOO LONG;
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  • IN THE AFTERGLOW FOR TOO LONG;YOU'RE UNDER NEW TRUTHS.
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  • YOU'RE UNDER NEW TRUTHS.SO I SAID, YOU KNOW,
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  • SO I SAID, YOU KNOW,I'D LOVE TO DO ONE WHERE
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  • I'D LOVE TO DO ONE WHEREYOU MEDITATE ON THE SAME TRUTH
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  • YOU MEDITATE ON THE SAME TRUTHFOR ABOUT A WEEK.
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  • FOR ABOUT A WEEK.BUT THE PUBLISHER DIDN'T LIKE
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  • BUT THE PUBLISHER DIDN'T LIKETHE TITLE,
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  • THE TITLE,SO THEY CALLED IT
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  • SO THEY CALLED IT"THE LOGIC OF GOD,"
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  • "THE LOGIC OF GOD,"BECAUSE HE SAID,
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  • BECAUSE HE SAID,"AS I FOLLOW THESE READINGS,
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  • "AS I FOLLOW THESE READINGS,YOU REALLY GET TO SEE THE MIND
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  • YOU REALLY GET TO SEE THE MINDOF GOD AND GOD'S THOUGHTS,
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  • OF GOD AND GOD'S THOUGHTS,AND HOW HE REFLECTS HIS
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  • AND HOW HE REFLECTS HISTHINKING THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES
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  • THINKING THROUGH THE SCRIPTURESON ISSUES THAT WE HAVE SO MANY
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  • ON ISSUES THAT WE HAVE SO MANYQUESTIONS OVER."
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  • QUESTIONS OVER."SO IT WAS MY --
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  • SO IT WAS MY --I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT
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  • I HAVE TO GIVE CREDITTO MY RESEARCH ASSISTANT.
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  • TO MY RESEARCH ASSISTANT.SHE COLLATED THEM.
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  • SHE COLLATED THEM.AND SHE SAID,
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  • AND SHE SAID,"HOW ABOUT PUTTING THESE
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  • "HOW ABOUT PUTTING THESETOGETHER?"
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  • TOGETHER?"SO THAT'S HOW IT CAME ABOUT.
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  • SO THAT'S HOW IT CAME ABOUT.MATT HAGEE: WELL,
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  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,IT'S A MARVELOUS WORK.
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  • IT'S A MARVELOUS WORK.AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU TALK
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  • AND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU TALKABOUT ISSUES THAT MANY PEOPLE
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  • ABOUT ISSUES THAT MANY PEOPLEHAVE QUESTIONS TO,
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  • HAVE QUESTIONS TO,THEY SEE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS
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  • THEY SEE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HASTHE MINISTRY AND THE REACH
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  • THE MINISTRY AND THE REACHAND THE INFLUENCE THAT YOU DO,
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  • AND THE INFLUENCE THAT YOU DO,AND THEY MUST WONDER;
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  • AND THEY MUST WONDER;HAS HE EVER NOT QUESTIONED?
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  • HAS HE EVER NOT QUESTIONED?HAVE HE EVER NOT, YOU KNOW,
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  • HAVE HE EVER NOT, YOU KNOW,KNOWN THAT FAITH WAS REAL?
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  • KNOWN THAT FAITH WAS REAL?AND IN YOUR LIFE,
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  • AND IN YOUR LIFE,YOU'RE VERY CANDID ABOUT
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  • YOU'RE VERY CANDID ABOUTYOUR OWN SKEPTICISM AND DOUBT.
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  • YOUR OWN SKEPTICISM AND DOUBT.AND REALLY THAT'S WHAT GOD USED
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  • AND REALLY THAT'S WHAT GOD USEDTO REACH YOU; YOU KNOW?
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  • TO REACH YOU; YOU KNOW?TELL US ABOUT THAT.
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  • TELL US ABOUT THAT.RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL,
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  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL,YOU KNOW FOR YEARS,
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  • YOU KNOW FOR YEARS,I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, MATT,
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  • I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, MATT,IT WAS MORE AN INDIFFERENCE.
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  • IT WAS MORE AN INDIFFERENCE.YOU KNOW I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT
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  • YOU KNOW I NEVER REALLY THOUGHTABOUT RELIGIOUS THINGS,
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  • ABOUT RELIGIOUS THINGS,BECAUSE I WAS RAISED IN INDIA,
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  • BECAUSE I WAS RAISED IN INDIA,LIVED THERE TILL I WAS 20.
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  • LIVED THERE TILL I WAS 20.MY ANCESTORS WERE FROM
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  • MY ANCESTORS WERE FROMTHE HIGHEST CLASS TO THE HINDU
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  • THE HIGHEST CLASS TO THE HINDUPRIESTHOOD,
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  • PRIESTHOOD,SO MUCH OF CEREMONY,
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  • SO MUCH OF CEREMONY,SO MUCH OF SUPERSTITION,
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  • SO MUCH OF SUPERSTITION,SO MUCH WHAT THEY THEMSELVES
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  • SO MUCH WHAT THEY THEMSELVESCALL "MYTHOLOGY."
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  • CALL "MYTHOLOGY."YOU KNOW THEY REFER TO IT
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  • YOU KNOW THEY REFER TO ITAS HINDU MYTHOLOGY,
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  • AS HINDU MYTHOLOGY,WHICH IS FASCINATING.
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  • WHICH IS FASCINATING.SO I DIDN'T REALLY TAKE
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  • SO I DIDN'T REALLY TAKERELIGIOUS IDEAS SERIOUSLY.
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  • RELIGIOUS IDEAS SERIOUSLY.I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST
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  • I THOUGHT IT WAS JUSTA NARRATIVE YOU ASSUMED
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  • A NARRATIVE YOU ASSUMEDTO PULL CULTURE TOGETHER.
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  • TO PULL CULTURE TOGETHER.BUT THEN WHEN I LAY ON A BED
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  • BUT THEN WHEN I LAY ON A BEDOF SUICIDE BY THE AGE OF 17,
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  • OF SUICIDE BY THE AGE OF 17,SOMETHING TOTALLY UNEXPECTED
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  • SOMETHING TOTALLY UNEXPECTEDHAPPENED.
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  • HAPPENED.I, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
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  • I, FOR THE FIRST TIME,STARTED ASKING THE QUESTION;
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  • STARTED ASKING THE QUESTION;WHAT HAPPENS NOW?
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  • WHAT HAPPENS NOW?YOU KNOW I WANTED TO END IT
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  • YOU KNOW I WANTED TO END ITALL,
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  • ALL,BUT HERE I'M LYING IN BED NOT
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  • BUT HERE I'M LYING IN BED NOTSURE IF I'VE SUCCEEDED OR NOT.
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  • SURE IF I'VE SUCCEEDED OR NOT.THE DOCTORS GAVE ME FOUR
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  • THE DOCTORS GAVE ME FOUROR FIVE DAYS,
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  • OR FIVE DAYS,IN WHICH THEY FIGURED THIS
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  • IN WHICH THEY FIGURED THISWOULD ALL WILL GO ONE WAY
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  • WOULD ALL WILL GO ONE WAYOR THE OTHER.
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  • OR THE OTHER.AND A BIBLE WAS BROUGHT TO ME.
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  • AND A BIBLE WAS BROUGHT TO ME.AND FOR THE FIRST TIME,
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  • AND FOR THE FIRST TIME,I SAW THE HOLY SCRIPTURES
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  • I SAW THE HOLY SCRIPTURESIN SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WAY.
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  • IN SUCH A BEAUTIFUL WAY.AND IRONICALLY,
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  • AND IRONICALLY,IT WAS JOHN 14 THAT WAS OPENED
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  • IT WAS JOHN 14 THAT WAS OPENEDTO ME.
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  • TO ME.I DIDN'T OWN A BIBLE,
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  • I DIDN'T OWN A BIBLE,SO THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME.
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  • SO THIS WAS BROUGHT TO ME.AND JESUS WAS TALKING
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  • AND JESUS WAS TALKINGTO THOMAS.
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  • TO THOMAS.THOMAS WAS THE ONE WHO WENT
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  • THOMAS WAS THE ONE WHO WENTTO INDIA.
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  • TO INDIA.THOMAS WAS THE ONE --
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  • THOMAS WAS THE ONE --MATT HAGEE: WHO DOUBTED.
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  • MATT HAGEE: WHO DOUBTED.RAVI ZACHARIAS: YEAH.
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  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: YEAH.JESUS SAID,
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  • JESUS SAID,"I'M THE WAY, THE TRUTH,
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  • "I'M THE WAY, THE TRUTH,AND THE LIFE.
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  • AND THE LIFE.NO MAN COMES UNTO THE FATHER
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  • NO MAN COMES UNTO THE FATHEREXCEPT THROUGH ME."
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  • EXCEPT THROUGH ME."AND HE WENT INTO A LAND
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  • AND HE WENT INTO A LANDOF MILLIONS OF DEITIES
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  • OF MILLIONS OF DEITIESAND SO ON,
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  • AND SO ON,AND PAID WITH HIS LIFE.
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  • AND PAID WITH HIS LIFE.SO THE VERSE THAT CHANGED
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  • SO THE VERSE THAT CHANGEDMY LIFE WAS JOHN 14:19.
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  • MY LIFE WAS JOHN 14:19.JESUS SAID, "BECAUSE I LIVE,
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  • JESUS SAID, "BECAUSE I LIVE,YOU ALSO SHALL LIVE."
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  • YOU ALSO SHALL LIVE."TO ME, WHAT GOD GIVES AS
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  • TO ME, WHAT GOD GIVES ASLIVING IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN
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  • LIVING IS VERY DIFFERENT THANWHAT WE CALL "AS LIVING."
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  • WHAT WE CALL "AS LIVING."AND THAT'S THE RATIONALITY
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  • AND THAT'S THE RATIONALITYAND THE REASONING OF GOD,
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  • AND THE REASONING OF GOD,WHY WE ARE HERE,
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  • WHY WE ARE HERE,WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT,
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  • WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT,WHAT THE DEEPEST QUESTIONS ARE,
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  • WHAT THE DEEPEST QUESTIONS ARE,AND HOW HE ANSWERS THEM.
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  • AND HOW HE ANSWERS THEM.MATT HAGEE: WELL,
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  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,AND IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL
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  • AND IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFULSTORY,
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  • STORY,BECAUSE IT CORRELATES WITH WHAT
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  • BECAUSE IT CORRELATES WITH WHATYOU WERE SAYING ABOUT HAVING
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  • YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT HAVINGTIME TO MEDITATE
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  • TIME TO MEDITATEON THE SCRIPTURES.
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  • ON THE SCRIPTURES.YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE
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  • YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATETHE TOTALITY OF GOD'S WORD.
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  • THE TOTALITY OF GOD'S WORD.YOU DIDN'T START IN GENESIS AND
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  • YOU DIDN'T START IN GENESIS ANDMAKE A CONCLUSION ONCE YOU GOT
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  • MAKE A CONCLUSION ONCE YOU GOTTO REVELATION.
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  • TO REVELATION.ONE VERSE,
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  • ONE VERSE,IT REACHED INTO YOUR HEART,
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  • IT REACHED INTO YOUR HEART,AND IT WAS ALL THAT WAS
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  • AND IT WAS ALL THAT WASNECESSARY TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE
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  • NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE ENTIREOUTCOME OF YOUR LIFE,
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  • OUTCOME OF YOUR LIFE,AND SOMETHING I ENCOURAGE
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  • AND SOMETHING I ENCOURAGEPEOPLE WITH OFTEN.
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  • PEOPLE WITH OFTEN.THEY PEOPLE SAY, "PASTOR,
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  • THEY PEOPLE SAY, "PASTOR,I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START
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  • I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO STARTREADING THE BIBLE."
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  • READING THE BIBLE.""PASTOR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
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  • "PASTOR, I DON'T KNOW WHATTO DO."
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  • TO DO."AND THEY WANT A PROCESS.
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  • AND THEY WANT A PROCESS.AND I JUST TELL THEM;
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  • AND I JUST TELL THEM;I SAID, "IT'S NOT QUANTITY;
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  • I SAID, "IT'S NOT QUANTITY;IT'S QUALITY."
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  • IT'S QUALITY."I SAID, "IF YOU TAKE ONE VERSE
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  • I SAID, "IF YOU TAKE ONE VERSEAND YOU LIVE BY IT,"
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  • AND YOU LIVE BY IT,"I SAID, "DON'T LEARN IT,
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  • I SAID, "DON'T LEARN IT,DON'T MEMORIZE IT,
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  • DON'T MEMORIZE IT,DON'T BE ABLE JUST TO REPEAT
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  • DON'T BE ABLE JUST TO REPEATIT, BUT LIVE BY IT,"
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  • IT, BUT LIVE BY IT,"I SAID, "YOU'LL FIND OUT THAT
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  • I SAID, "YOU'LL FIND OUT THATTHAT VERSE WILL CHANGE
  • 00:05:02.429 --> 00:05:03.130
  • THAT VERSE WILL CHANGEYOUR LIFE."
  • 00:05:03.130 --> 00:05:03.764
  • YOUR LIFE."I SAID,
  • 00:05:03.764 --> 00:05:04.465
  • I SAID,"AND THEN YOU'LL WANT TO LIVE
  • 00:05:04.465 --> 00:05:05.032
  • "AND THEN YOU'LL WANT TO LIVEBY MORE."
  • 00:05:05.032 --> 00:05:05.866
  • BY MORE."RAVI ZACHARIAS: AND YOU KNOW,
  • 00:05:05.866 --> 00:05:06.867
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: AND YOU KNOW,"THY WORD IS TRUTH,"
  • 00:05:06.867 --> 00:05:07.701
  • "THY WORD IS TRUTH,"AS THE SCRIPTURE IS.
  • 00:05:07.701 --> 00:05:08.235
  • AS THE SCRIPTURE IS."THE WORD OF GOD
  • 00:05:08.235 --> 00:05:09.203
  • "THE WORD OF GODABIDES FOREVER."
  • 00:05:09.203 --> 00:05:09.737
  • ABIDES FOREVER.""HEAVEN AND EARTH
  • 00:05:09.737 --> 00:05:10.838
  • "HEAVEN AND EARTHMAY PASS AWAY,
  • 00:05:10.838 --> 00:05:12.539
  • MAY PASS AWAY,BUT THIS WORD ABIDES FOREVER."
  • 00:05:12.539 --> 00:05:13.841
  • BUT THIS WORD ABIDES FOREVER."YOU KNOW GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU
  • 00:05:13.841 --> 00:05:14.675
  • YOU KNOW GOING BACK TO WHAT YOUJUST SAID,
  • 00:05:14.675 --> 00:05:16.143
  • JUST SAID,THE THOUGHT CAME TO MY MIND,
  • 00:05:16.143 --> 00:05:18.645
  • THE THOUGHT CAME TO MY MIND,HOW SAUL OF TARSUS TO PAUL
  • 00:05:18.645 --> 00:05:19.747
  • HOW SAUL OF TARSUS TO PAULWAS STRONG,
  • 00:05:19.747 --> 00:05:21.014
  • WAS STRONG,AND WHAT IS IT HE SAID?
  • 00:05:21.014 --> 00:05:22.116
  • AND WHAT IS IT HE SAID?"THAT I MAY KNOW HIM,
  • 00:05:22.116 --> 00:05:23.517
  • "THAT I MAY KNOW HIM,THE POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION,
  • 00:05:23.517 --> 00:05:24.218
  • THE POWER OF HIS RESURRECTION,AND THE FELLOWSHIP
  • 00:05:24.218 --> 00:05:24.885
  • AND THE FELLOWSHIPOF HIS SUFFERING,
  • 00:05:24.885 --> 00:05:25.886
  • OF HIS SUFFERING,BEING MADE CONFORMABLE
  • 00:05:25.886 --> 00:05:26.720
  • BEING MADE CONFORMABLEUNTO HIS DEATH."
  • 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:27.421
  • UNTO HIS DEATH."ALL OF THE OTHER
  • 00:05:27.421 --> 00:05:28.989
  • ALL OF THE OTHERDISCIPLES CAME TO GOD
  • 00:05:28.989 --> 00:05:31.158
  • DISCIPLES CAME TO GODCHRONOLOGICALLY, BOTH LIFE,
  • 00:05:31.158 --> 00:05:32.559
  • CHRONOLOGICALLY, BOTH LIFE,DEATH, RESURRECTION.
  • 00:05:32.559 --> 00:05:33.961
  • DEATH, RESURRECTION.SAUL OF TARSUS CAME
  • 00:05:33.961 --> 00:05:35.562
  • SAUL OF TARSUS CAMEFROM THE RESURRECTION,
  • 00:05:35.562 --> 00:05:36.430
  • FROM THE RESURRECTION,AND THEN WANTED TO MOVE
  • 00:05:36.430 --> 00:05:37.564
  • AND THEN WANTED TO MOVEBACKWARDS SO THAT HE COULD
  • 00:05:37.564 --> 00:05:38.799
  • BACKWARDS SO THAT HE COULDUNDERSTAND WHAT THE CROSS
  • 00:05:38.799 --> 00:05:39.533
  • UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CROSSWAS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:05:39.533 --> 00:05:41.435
  • WAS ALL ABOUT.THAT'S WHAT WAS AN OFFENSE
  • 00:05:41.435 --> 00:05:42.202
  • THAT'S WHAT WAS AN OFFENSETO HIM.
  • 00:05:42.202 --> 00:05:43.237
  • TO HIM.AND SO STARTING WITH
  • 00:05:43.237 --> 00:05:45.773
  • AND SO STARTING WITHTHE MIRACULOUSLY-RISEN CHRIST,
  • 00:05:45.773 --> 00:05:47.341
  • THE MIRACULOUSLY-RISEN CHRIST,HE GOES BACK TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:05:47.341 --> 00:05:48.976
  • HE GOES BACK TO UNDERSTANDCALVARY SO THAT HE COULD ALSO
  • 00:05:48.976 --> 00:05:51.145
  • CALVARY SO THAT HE COULD ALSOBE MADE CONFORMABLE INTO WHAT
  • 00:05:51.145 --> 00:05:52.045
  • BE MADE CONFORMABLE INTO WHATTHE DEATH OF CHRIST
  • 00:05:52.045 --> 00:05:52.880
  • THE DEATH OF CHRISTWAS ALL ABOUT.
  • 00:05:52.880 --> 00:05:54.214
  • WAS ALL ABOUT.SO GOD BRINGS US THROUGH
  • 00:05:54.214 --> 00:05:57.284
  • SO GOD BRINGS US THROUGHDIFFERENT SERIES OF EVENTS.
  • 00:05:57.284 --> 00:05:58.819
  • DIFFERENT SERIES OF EVENTS.BUT THE LOGIC IS ULTIMATELY
  • 00:05:58.819 --> 00:05:59.319
  • BUT THE LOGIC IS ULTIMATELYTHE SAME.
  • 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:00.554
  • THE SAME.THE CHRONOLOGY MAY BE
  • 00:06:00.554 --> 00:06:01.221
  • THE CHRONOLOGY MAY BEDIFFERENT,
  • 00:06:01.221 --> 00:06:02.022
  • DIFFERENT,BUT THE LOGIC OF IT
  • 00:06:02.022 --> 00:06:02.856
  • BUT THE LOGIC OF ITIS VERY REAL.
  • 00:06:02.856 --> 00:06:03.624
  • IS VERY REAL.MATT HAGEE: HOW YOU GOT THERE
  • 00:06:03.624 --> 00:06:04.291
  • MATT HAGEE: HOW YOU GOT THEREIS DIFFERENT FOR EACH
  • 00:06:04.291 --> 00:06:05.058
  • IS DIFFERENT FOR EACHINDIVIDUAL.
  • 00:06:05.058 --> 00:06:05.659
  • INDIVIDUAL.RAVI ZACHARIAS: THAT'S RIGHT.
  • 00:06:05.659 --> 00:06:06.493
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: THAT'S RIGHT.MATT HAGEE: WHERE YOU GO
  • 00:06:06.493 --> 00:06:08.228
  • MATT HAGEE: WHERE YOU GOIS THE SAME; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:06:08.228 --> 00:06:09.430
  • IS THE SAME; YOU KNOW?THERE'S ONLY ONE DOOR
  • 00:06:09.430 --> 00:06:10.998
  • THERE'S ONLY ONE DOORAND IT'S JESUS CHRIST.
  • 00:06:10.998 --> 00:06:11.698
  • AND IT'S JESUS CHRIST.RAVI ZACHARIAS: SPURGEON
  • 00:06:11.698 --> 00:06:12.966
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: SPURGEONHAD A GREAT SERMON CALLED
  • 00:06:12.966 --> 00:06:14.802
  • HAD A GREAT SERMON CALLED"THE GATHERING AT THE CENTER."
  • 00:06:14.802 --> 00:06:15.302
  • "THE GATHERING AT THE CENTER."AND HE SAYS,
  • 00:06:15.302 --> 00:06:16.370
  • AND HE SAYS,"WE COME THROUGH DIFFERENT
  • 00:06:16.370 --> 00:06:17.104
  • "WE COME THROUGH DIFFERENTPATHS,
  • 00:06:17.104 --> 00:06:18.405
  • PATHS,BUT WE GATHER AT THE CENTER
  • 00:06:18.405 --> 00:06:19.006
  • BUT WE GATHER AT THE CENTEROF CHRIST;
  • 00:06:19.006 --> 00:06:20.207
  • OF CHRIST;SOME, THROUGH THE HARD KNOCKS
  • 00:06:20.207 --> 00:06:20.707
  • SOME, THROUGH THE HARD KNOCKSOF LIFE;
  • 00:06:20.707 --> 00:06:21.442
  • OF LIFE;SOME, THROUGH THE WEALTHY
  • 00:06:21.442 --> 00:06:22.776
  • SOME, THROUGH THE WEALTHYENDEAVORS OF OTHERS,
  • 00:06:22.776 --> 00:06:24.244
  • ENDEAVORS OF OTHERS,BUT WE GATHER AT THE CENTER."
  • 00:06:24.244 --> 00:06:24.845
  • BUT WE GATHER AT THE CENTER."MATT HAGEE: NOW,
  • 00:06:24.845 --> 00:06:25.412
  • MATT HAGEE: NOW,WHEN WE COME BACK,
  • 00:06:25.412 --> 00:06:26.947
  • WHEN WE COME BACK,I WANT YOU TO TELL OUR AUDIENCE
  • 00:06:26.947 --> 00:06:27.881
  • I WANT YOU TO TELL OUR AUDIENCEABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:06:27.881 --> 00:06:29.216
  • ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU'REDOING ALL OVER THE WORLD.
  • 00:06:29.216 --> 00:06:31.819
  • DOING ALL OVER THE WORLD.AND OFTEN TIMES, INDIVIDUALS,
  • 00:06:31.819 --> 00:06:33.787
  • AND OFTEN TIMES, INDIVIDUALS,WHO HAVE WIDESPREAD
  • 00:06:33.787 --> 00:06:34.688
  • WHO HAVE WIDESPREADDISTRIBUTION EITHER THROUGH
  • 00:06:34.688 --> 00:06:36.490
  • DISTRIBUTION EITHER THROUGHPUBLISHING OR TELEVISION,
  • 00:06:36.490 --> 00:06:39.760
  • PUBLISHING OR TELEVISION,YOU KNOW GLOBAL IS A METAPHOR.
  • 00:06:39.760 --> 00:06:40.828
  • YOU KNOW GLOBAL IS A METAPHOR.BUT IN YOUR SITUATION,
  • 00:06:40.828 --> 00:06:41.895
  • BUT IN YOUR SITUATION,YOU ARE ACTUALLY TOUCHING
  • 00:06:41.895 --> 00:06:42.896
  • YOU ARE ACTUALLY TOUCHINGTHE NATIONS OF THE WORLD,
  • 00:06:42.896 --> 00:06:43.730
  • THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD,AND TRAINING UP LEADERS,
  • 00:06:43.730 --> 00:06:45.466
  • AND TRAINING UP LEADERS,AND HELPING THEM TO GO OUT
  • 00:06:45.466 --> 00:06:46.400
  • AND HELPING THEM TO GO OUTAND MAKE DISCIPLES.
  • 00:06:46.400 --> 00:06:47.067
  • AND MAKE DISCIPLES.AND I THINK THAT THAT'S
  • 00:06:47.067 --> 00:06:48.702
  • AND I THINK THAT THAT'SA WONDERFUL PEOPLE TO BE AWARE
  • 00:06:48.702 --> 00:06:50.070
  • A WONDERFUL PEOPLE TO BE AWAREOF AND TO BE A PART OF.
  • 00:06:50.070 --> 00:06:51.305
  • OF AND TO BE A PART OF.WE'RE WITH RAVI ZACHARIAS,
  • 00:06:51.305 --> 00:06:52.406
  • WE'RE WITH RAVI ZACHARIAS,AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK ON
  • 00:06:52.406 --> 00:06:53.941
  • AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK ON"THE DIFFERENCE" AFTER THIS.
  • 00:06:53.941 --> 00:06:58.745
  • "THE DIFFERENCE" AFTER THIS.♪ MUSIC ♪
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  • ♪ MUSIC ♪AMERICA,
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  • AMERICA,THE LAND OF THE FREE
  • 00:07:01.014 --> 00:07:02.449
  • THE LAND OF THE FREEAND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.
  • 00:07:02.449 --> 00:07:03.450
  • AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.BUT WHAT IS THE COST
  • 00:07:03.450 --> 00:07:04.751
  • BUT WHAT IS THE COSTOF THAT FREEDOM?
  • 00:07:04.751 --> 00:07:05.819
  • OF THAT FREEDOM?PASTOR MATT HAGEE: OUR FREEDOMS
  • 00:07:05.819 --> 00:07:06.653
  • PASTOR MATT HAGEE: OUR FREEDOMSARE THE ENVY OF THE WORLD
  • 00:07:06.653 --> 00:07:08.989
  • ARE THE ENVY OF THE WORLDBUT THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEED.
  • 00:07:08.989 --> 00:07:10.924
  • BUT THEY ARE NOT GUARANTEED.THIS IS THE SEASON TO EXERCISE
  • 00:07:10.924 --> 00:07:12.493
  • THIS IS THE SEASON TO EXERCISEYOUR PATRIOTIC DUTY.
  • 00:07:12.493 --> 00:07:13.694
  • YOUR PATRIOTIC DUTY.FIND THOSE CANDIDATES
  • 00:07:13.694 --> 00:07:14.862
  • FIND THOSE CANDIDATESWHO MATCH YOUR FAITH
  • 00:07:14.862 --> 00:07:16.463
  • WHO MATCH YOUR FAITHAND FAMILY VALUES
  • 00:07:16.463 --> 00:07:18.332
  • AND FAMILY VALUESAND GET OUT AND VOTE THE BIBLE.
  • 00:07:18.332 --> 00:07:19.633
  • AND GET OUT AND VOTE THE BIBLE.FOR YOUR GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT,
  • 00:07:19.633 --> 00:07:21.001
  • FOR YOUR GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT,HAGEE MINISTRIES WILL SEND YOU
  • 00:07:21.001 --> 00:07:22.269
  • HAGEE MINISTRIES WILL SEND YOUA SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM
  • 00:07:22.269 --> 00:07:23.804
  • A SPECIAL MESSAGE FROM"RECLAIMING AMERICA'S FREEDOM"
  • 00:07:23.804 --> 00:07:25.506
  • "RECLAIMING AMERICA'S FREEDOM"SERIES CD/DVD,
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  • SERIES CD/DVD,"A SHIELDS OF STRENGTH"
  • 00:07:26.607 --> 00:07:27.741
  • "A SHIELDS OF STRENGTH"CUSTOM DOG TAG,
  • 00:07:27.741 --> 00:07:29.343
  • CUSTOM DOG TAG,AND PASTOR JOHN HAGEE'S BOOK
  • 00:07:29.343 --> 00:07:30.844
  • AND PASTOR JOHN HAGEE'S BOOK"WHEN THE RIGHTEOUS RULE."
  • 00:07:30.844 --> 00:07:33.113
  • "WHEN THE RIGHTEOUS RULE."FOR GIFTS OF $175 OR MORE,
  • 00:07:33.113 --> 00:07:33.814
  • FOR GIFTS OF $175 OR MORE,YOU WILL RECEIVE THE
  • 00:07:33.814 --> 00:07:35.415
  • YOU WILL RECEIVE THE"VOTE THE BIBLE BUNDLE"
  • 00:07:35.415 --> 00:07:36.583
  • "VOTE THE BIBLE BUNDLE"WHICH ALSO INCLUDES
  • 00:07:36.583 --> 00:07:37.718
  • WHICH ALSO INCLUDESA CUSTOM TUMBLER,
  • 00:07:37.718 --> 00:07:38.552
  • A CUSTOM TUMBLER,TOTE BAG,
  • 00:07:38.552 --> 00:07:40.721
  • TOTE BAG,CAP AND YARD SIGN.
  • 00:07:40.721 --> 00:07:41.488
  • CAP AND YARD SIGN.PASTOR MATT HAGEE: NOW IS
  • 00:07:41.488 --> 00:07:42.356
  • PASTOR MATT HAGEE: NOW ISTHE TIME TO STAND UP
  • 00:07:42.356 --> 00:07:43.156
  • THE TIME TO STAND UPFOR OUR FREEDOM
  • 00:07:43.156 --> 00:07:44.057
  • FOR OUR FREEDOMAND THE FREEDOM
  • 00:07:44.057 --> 00:07:45.492
  • AND THE FREEDOMOF OUR NEXT GENERATION.
  • 00:07:45.492 --> 00:07:48.195
  • OF OUR NEXT GENERATION.GET OUT AND VOTE THE BIBLE.
  • 00:07:48.195 --> 00:07:49.396
  • GET OUT AND VOTE THE BIBLE.SEND YOUR GIFT TODAY.
  • 00:07:49.396 --> 00:07:50.531
  • SEND YOUR GIFT TODAY.CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN
  • 00:07:50.531 --> 00:07:56.069
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREENOR VISIT JHM.ORG/USA.
  • 00:07:56.069 --> 00:07:57.404
  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG/USA.IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN.
  • 00:07:57.404 --> 00:07:58.505
  • IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN.CORNERSTONE CHURCH IS HOSTING
  • 00:07:58.505 --> 00:08:00.040
  • CORNERSTONE CHURCH IS HOSTINGFEAST 2020,
  • 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.009
  • FEAST 2020,OCTOBER 23RD THROUGH THE 25TH.
  • 00:08:02.009 --> 00:08:02.910
  • OCTOBER 23RD THROUGH THE 25TH.DON'T MISS THREE DAYS OF
  • 00:08:02.910 --> 00:08:03.744
  • DON'T MISS THREE DAYS OFFREE RIDES,
  • 00:08:03.744 --> 00:08:04.478
  • FREE RIDES,MIDWAY GAMES,
  • 00:08:04.478 --> 00:08:05.112
  • MIDWAY GAMES,FOOD,
  • 00:08:05.112 --> 00:08:05.746
  • FOOD,MUSIC,
  • 00:08:05.746 --> 00:08:06.980
  • MUSIC,SPECTACULAR FIREWORKS,
  • 00:08:06.980 --> 00:08:08.248
  • SPECTACULAR FIREWORKS,AND INSPIRATIONAL SPEAKERS
  • 00:08:08.248 --> 00:08:09.516
  • AND INSPIRATIONAL SPEAKERSAT CORNERSTONE CHURCH.
  • 00:08:09.516 --> 00:08:10.717
  • AT CORNERSTONE CHURCH.FEATURING BIBLE-BASED PREACHING
  • 00:08:10.717 --> 00:08:12.052
  • FEATURING BIBLE-BASED PREACHINGBY PASTOR MATT HAGEE,
  • 00:08:12.052 --> 00:08:13.220
  • BY PASTOR MATT HAGEE,PLUS LIVE OUTDOOR PRAISE
  • 00:08:13.220 --> 00:08:14.087
  • PLUS LIVE OUTDOOR PRAISEAND WORSHIP.
  • 00:08:14.087 --> 00:08:14.621
  • AND WORSHIP.SUNDAY NIGHT,
  • 00:08:14.621 --> 00:08:15.789
  • SUNDAY NIGHT,JOIN US FOR OUR ANNUAL
  • 00:08:15.789 --> 00:08:16.790
  • JOIN US FOR OUR ANNUALNIGHT TO HONOR ISRAEL
  • 00:08:16.790 --> 00:08:18.091
  • NIGHT TO HONOR ISRAELWITH PASTOR JOHN HAGEE.
  • 00:08:18.091 --> 00:08:19.359
  • WITH PASTOR JOHN HAGEE.FEAST 2020,
  • 00:08:19.359 --> 00:08:20.127
  • FEAST 2020,FOR MORE INFORMATION,
  • 00:08:20.127 --> 00:08:20.694
  • FOR MORE INFORMATION,CALL THE NUMBER
  • 00:08:20.694 --> 00:08:21.428
  • CALL THE NUMBERON YOUR SCREEN
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  • ON YOUR SCREENOR VISIT JHM.ORG/FEAST.: WELCOMO
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  • OR VISIT JHM.ORG/FEAST.: WELCOMO"THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:08:28.302 --> 00:08:29.503
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."KENDAL AND I HAVE BEEN HAVING
  • 00:08:29.503 --> 00:08:30.470
  • KENDAL AND I HAVE BEEN HAVINGA WONDERFUL CONVERSATION
  • 00:08:30.470 --> 00:08:31.572
  • A WONDERFUL CONVERSATIONWITH RAVI ZACHARIAS.
  • 00:08:31.572 --> 00:08:33.540
  • WITH RAVI ZACHARIAS.AND RAVI,
  • 00:08:33.540 --> 00:08:34.174
  • AND RAVI,YOU KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS
  • 00:08:34.174 --> 00:08:35.943
  • YOU KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONSTHAT KENDAL ASKED ME WHENEVER
  • 00:08:35.943 --> 00:08:37.344
  • THAT KENDAL ASKED ME WHENEVERSHE BEGAN TO READ YOUR BOOK
  • 00:08:37.344 --> 00:08:39.379
  • SHE BEGAN TO READ YOUR BOOKAND UNDERSTAND MORE OF THE WORK
  • 00:08:39.379 --> 00:08:39.880
  • AND UNDERSTAND MORE OF THE WORKYOU DO,
  • 00:08:39.880 --> 00:08:40.347
  • YOU DO,SHE SAID,
  • 00:08:40.347 --> 00:08:41.214
  • SHE SAID,"WHAT IS AN APOLOGIST?"
  • 00:08:41.214 --> 00:08:41.748
  • "WHAT IS AN APOLOGIST?"KENDAL HAGEE: YES.
  • 00:08:41.748 --> 00:08:42.316
  • KENDAL HAGEE: YES.I WAS LIKE,
  • 00:08:42.316 --> 00:08:43.650
  • I WAS LIKE,"WHAT IS AN APOLOGIST?"
  • 00:08:43.650 --> 00:08:45.919
  • "WHAT IS AN APOLOGIST?"MATT HAGEE: AND I HAVE ALWAYS
  • 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:47.654
  • MATT HAGEE: AND I HAVE ALWAYSKIND OF ANSWERED THAT QUESTION
  • 00:08:47.654 --> 00:08:48.922
  • KIND OF ANSWERED THAT QUESTIONWITH MAYBE NOT THE MOST
  • 00:08:48.922 --> 00:08:50.123
  • WITH MAYBE NOT THE MOSTACCURATE OF TERMS,
  • 00:08:50.123 --> 00:08:50.657
  • ACCURATE OF TERMS,BUT AT LEAST CREATES
  • 00:08:50.657 --> 00:08:51.258
  • BUT AT LEAST CREATESSOME UNDERSTANDING.
  • 00:08:51.258 --> 00:08:51.825
  • SOME UNDERSTANDING.I SAID,
  • 00:08:51.825 --> 00:08:53.293
  • I SAID,"HE'S A DEFENDER OF THE FAITH."
  • 00:08:53.293 --> 00:08:55.062
  • "HE'S A DEFENDER OF THE FAITH."NOW HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT
  • 00:08:55.062 --> 00:08:55.662
  • NOW HOW DO YOU DEFINE THATFOR YOURSELF?
  • 00:08:55.662 --> 00:08:56.396
  • FOR YOURSELF?RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL, OF ALL
  • 00:08:56.396 --> 00:08:57.831
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL, OF ALLPEOPLE IN THE SCRIPTURES,
  • 00:08:57.831 --> 00:09:01.034
  • PEOPLE IN THE SCRIPTURES,THE WORD IS USED BY PETER,
  • 00:09:01.034 --> 00:09:02.235
  • THE WORD IS USED BY PETER,A FISHERMAN.
  • 00:09:02.235 --> 00:09:03.203
  • A FISHERMAN.YOU KNOW HE IS THE ONE
  • 00:09:03.203 --> 00:09:05.672
  • YOU KNOW HE IS THE ONEWHO WITNESSED THE GREAT
  • 00:09:05.672 --> 00:09:07.808
  • WHO WITNESSED THE GREATTRANSFIGURATION.
  • 00:09:07.808 --> 00:09:08.308
  • TRANSFIGURATION.BUT HE SAID,
  • 00:09:08.308 --> 00:09:09.309
  • BUT HE SAID,"BUT NOW WE HAVE THE WORD OF
  • 00:09:09.309 --> 00:09:10.978
  • "BUT NOW WE HAVE THE WORD OFTHE PROPHETS MADE MORE CERTAIN,
  • 00:09:10.978 --> 00:09:12.546
  • THE PROPHETS MADE MORE CERTAIN,AS CONFIDENCE IN THE WORD."
  • 00:09:12.546 --> 00:09:15.549
  • AS CONFIDENCE IN THE WORD."BUT HE SAYS TO SET APART CHRIST
  • 00:09:15.549 --> 00:09:17.117
  • BUT HE SAYS TO SET APART CHRISTIN YOUR HEARTS AS LORD,
  • 00:09:17.117 --> 00:09:18.552
  • IN YOUR HEARTS AS LORD,AND ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO GIVE
  • 00:09:18.552 --> 00:09:19.820
  • AND ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO GIVEA REASON FOR THE HOPE
  • 00:09:19.820 --> 00:09:21.121
  • A REASON FOR THE HOPETHAT IS WITHIN YOU,
  • 00:09:21.121 --> 00:09:22.255
  • THAT IS WITHIN YOU,AND AN ANSWER TO ANYONE
  • 00:09:22.255 --> 00:09:23.590
  • AND AN ANSWER TO ANYONETHAT ASKS OF YOU.
  • 00:09:23.590 --> 00:09:25.125
  • THAT ASKS OF YOU.BUT TO DO THAT WITH GENTLENESS
  • 00:09:25.125 --> 00:09:26.126
  • BUT TO DO THAT WITH GENTLENESSAND RESPECT.
  • 00:09:26.126 --> 00:09:27.060
  • AND RESPECT.THAT REASON,
  • 00:09:27.060 --> 00:09:28.295
  • THAT REASON,THAT ANSWER IS THE WORD
  • 00:09:28.295 --> 00:09:29.296
  • THAT ANSWER IS THE WORD"APOLOGIA."
  • 00:09:29.296 --> 00:09:30.330
  • "APOLOGIA."IT'S THE GREEK WORD.
  • 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:31.531
  • IT'S THE GREEK WORD.SO THAT'S WHERE WE
  • 00:09:31.531 --> 00:09:32.833
  • SO THAT'S WHERE WETRANSLITERATE IT INTO
  • 00:09:32.833 --> 00:09:34.167
  • TRANSLITERATE IT INTOAPOLOGETICS.
  • 00:09:34.167 --> 00:09:36.570
  • APOLOGETICS.BUT I BELIEVE WHAT APOLOGETICS
  • 00:09:36.570 --> 00:09:38.805
  • BUT I BELIEVE WHAT APOLOGETICSREALLY DOES IS GIVE ANSWERS
  • 00:09:38.805 --> 00:09:41.441
  • REALLY DOES IS GIVE ANSWERSAND CLARIFIES TRUTH CLAIMS.
  • 00:09:41.441 --> 00:09:43.410
  • AND CLARIFIES TRUTH CLAIMS.WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT DESCENDED
  • 00:09:43.410 --> 00:09:44.044
  • WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT DESCENDEDAT PENTECOST,
  • 00:09:44.044 --> 00:09:45.112
  • AT PENTECOST,THEY'RE ALL CONFUSED.
  • 00:09:45.112 --> 00:09:47.681
  • THEY'RE ALL CONFUSED.PETER SAYS, "LET ME EXPLAIN,"
  • 00:09:47.681 --> 00:09:49.082
  • PETER SAYS, "LET ME EXPLAIN,"LET ME GIVE YOU THE ANSWER.
  • 00:09:49.082 --> 00:09:50.417
  • LET ME GIVE YOU THE ANSWER."THIS IS THAT WHICH WAS SPOKEN
  • 00:09:50.417 --> 00:09:51.852
  • "THIS IS THAT WHICH WAS SPOKENOF BY THE PROPHET JOEL."
  • 00:09:51.852 --> 00:09:53.153
  • OF BY THE PROPHET JOEL."SO HE'S GIVING THE EVIDENCE,
  • 00:09:53.153 --> 00:09:54.054
  • SO HE'S GIVING THE EVIDENCE,MAKING THE CONNECTION,
  • 00:09:54.054 --> 00:09:55.155
  • MAKING THE CONNECTION,MAKING IT CLEAR.
  • 00:09:55.155 --> 00:09:56.590
  • MAKING IT CLEAR.A GOOD APOLOGIST STARTS
  • 00:09:56.590 --> 00:09:58.258
  • A GOOD APOLOGIST STARTSWITH SETTING APART HIS HEART
  • 00:09:58.258 --> 00:09:59.493
  • WITH SETTING APART HIS HEARTFOR CHRIST,
  • 00:09:59.493 --> 00:10:00.894
  • FOR CHRIST,DOES IT RESPECTFULLY
  • 00:10:00.894 --> 00:10:02.195
  • DOES IT RESPECTFULLYFOR THE QUESTIONER,
  • 00:10:02.195 --> 00:10:03.563
  • FOR THE QUESTIONER,BUT DOES IT WITH THE TRUTH
  • 00:10:03.563 --> 00:10:04.531
  • BUT DOES IT WITH THE TRUTHOF THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:10:04.531 --> 00:10:05.599
  • OF THE WORD OF GOD.SO THAT'S WHAT "APOLOGETICS"
  • 00:10:05.599 --> 00:10:06.299
  • SO THAT'S WHAT "APOLOGETICS"IS.
  • 00:10:06.299 --> 00:10:07.134
  • IS.MATT HAGEE: AND REALLY,
  • 00:10:07.134 --> 00:10:07.868
  • MATT HAGEE: AND REALLY,ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS
  • 00:10:07.868 --> 00:10:09.636
  • ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HASALWAYS DRAWN ME TO YOUR WORK
  • 00:10:09.636 --> 00:10:11.471
  • ALWAYS DRAWN ME TO YOUR WORKAND TO YOUR MINISTRY IS THOSE
  • 00:10:11.471 --> 00:10:14.041
  • AND TO YOUR MINISTRY IS THOSEVERY EVIDENT INGREDIENTS.
  • 00:10:14.041 --> 00:10:15.575
  • VERY EVIDENT INGREDIENTS.YOU HAVE A CONVICTION ABOUT
  • 00:10:15.575 --> 00:10:17.010
  • YOU HAVE A CONVICTION ABOUTWHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
  • 00:10:17.010 --> 00:10:18.111
  • WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.YOU'RE NOT QUESTIONING
  • 00:10:18.111 --> 00:10:18.545
  • YOU'RE NOT QUESTIONINGTHE ANSWER;
  • 00:10:18.545 --> 00:10:19.913
  • THE ANSWER;YOU'RE DELIVERING IT,
  • 00:10:19.913 --> 00:10:20.947
  • YOU'RE DELIVERING IT,WHICH TYPICALLY
  • 00:10:20.947 --> 00:10:22.416
  • WHICH TYPICALLYWITH THAT BOLDNESS,
  • 00:10:22.416 --> 00:10:23.517
  • WITH THAT BOLDNESS,GENTLENESS IS SOMEWHAT
  • 00:10:23.517 --> 00:10:24.284
  • GENTLENESS IS SOMEWHATDIFFICULT.
  • 00:10:24.284 --> 00:10:25.252
  • DIFFICULT.BECAUSE THERE'S --
  • 00:10:25.252 --> 00:10:26.119
  • BECAUSE THERE'S --YOU KNOW, I MEAN I COME FROM
  • 00:10:26.119 --> 00:10:27.988
  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN I COME FROMA VERY BOLD LINE OF SPEAKERS.
  • 00:10:27.988 --> 00:10:29.723
  • A VERY BOLD LINE OF SPEAKERS.AND AT TIMES,
  • 00:10:29.723 --> 00:10:32.292
  • AND AT TIMES,IT'S DIFFICULT TO CONTROL THE
  • 00:10:32.292 --> 00:10:34.394
  • IT'S DIFFICULT TO CONTROL THEPASSION THAT YOU FEEL FOR THE
  • 00:10:34.394 --> 00:10:36.530
  • PASSION THAT YOU FEEL FOR THEPERSUASION OF THE INDIVIDUAL.
  • 00:10:36.530 --> 00:10:38.131
  • PERSUASION OF THE INDIVIDUAL.AND YOU DO THAT IN SUCH A WAY
  • 00:10:38.131 --> 00:10:39.299
  • AND YOU DO THAT IN SUCH A WAYTHAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WALK
  • 00:10:39.299 --> 00:10:41.535
  • THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WALKINTO SOME VERY DIFFICULT ARENAS
  • 00:10:41.535 --> 00:10:42.936
  • INTO SOME VERY DIFFICULT ARENASAND BRING TRUTH,
  • 00:10:42.936 --> 00:10:44.905
  • AND BRING TRUTH,AND ENABLE PEOPLE TO HEAR
  • 00:10:44.905 --> 00:10:45.839
  • AND ENABLE PEOPLE TO HEARTRUTH,
  • 00:10:45.839 --> 00:10:47.641
  • TRUTH,AND REALLY SEE GOD DO WONDERFUL
  • 00:10:47.641 --> 00:10:48.141
  • AND REALLY SEE GOD DO WONDERFULTHINGS.
  • 00:10:48.141 --> 00:10:49.309
  • THINGS.AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT,
  • 00:10:49.309 --> 00:10:49.876
  • AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT,YOU KNOW,
  • 00:10:49.876 --> 00:10:50.410
  • YOU KNOW,JUST COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
  • 00:10:50.410 --> 00:10:51.244
  • JUST COLLEGE CAMPUSES.I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OVER
  • 00:10:51.244 --> 00:10:52.979
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OVERTHE WORLD WHERE MANY CASES
  • 00:10:52.979 --> 00:10:54.548
  • THE WORLD WHERE MANY CASESCHRISTIANITY IS NOT A WELCOMED
  • 00:10:54.548 --> 00:10:55.582
  • CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A WELCOMEDFAITH AT ALL.
  • 00:10:55.582 --> 00:10:56.283
  • FAITH AT ALL.RAVI ZACHARIAS: YOU'RE
  • 00:10:56.283 --> 00:10:57.217
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: YOU'REVERY KIND, AND THANK YOU, MATT,
  • 00:10:57.217 --> 00:10:58.185
  • VERY KIND, AND THANK YOU, MATT,FOR THAT,
  • 00:10:58.185 --> 00:10:59.553
  • FOR THAT,BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALWAYS
  • 00:10:59.553 --> 00:11:01.455
  • BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALWAYSSUCCEED WITH WHAT YOU HAD
  • 00:11:01.455 --> 00:11:03.356
  • SUCCEED WITH WHAT YOU HADINTENDED IN THE MANNER.
  • 00:11:03.356 --> 00:11:04.458
  • INTENDED IN THE MANNER.YOU SEE IT'S BOTH THE MESSAGE
  • 00:11:04.458 --> 00:11:05.892
  • YOU SEE IT'S BOTH THE MESSAGEAND THE MANNER.
  • 00:11:05.892 --> 00:11:07.260
  • AND THE MANNER.WHEN YOU LOOK AT JESUS TALKING
  • 00:11:07.260 --> 00:11:08.962
  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT JESUS TALKINGTO THE WOMAN AT THE WELL,
  • 00:11:08.962 --> 00:11:12.132
  • TO THE WOMAN AT THE WELL,IT AMAZES ME HOW HE WAS GENTLY
  • 00:11:12.132 --> 00:11:13.600
  • IT AMAZES ME HOW HE WAS GENTLYREALLY PUTTING HIS ARMS AROUND
  • 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:15.869
  • REALLY PUTTING HIS ARMS AROUNDHER IN A METAPHORICAL SENSE
  • 00:11:15.869 --> 00:11:16.603
  • HER IN A METAPHORICAL SENSETO SAY TO HER,
  • 00:11:16.603 --> 00:11:18.538
  • TO SAY TO HER,I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
  • 00:11:18.538 --> 00:11:20.540
  • I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.I KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GONE WRONG
  • 00:11:20.540 --> 00:11:21.374
  • I KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GONE WRONGWITH YOU.
  • 00:11:21.374 --> 00:11:22.342
  • WITH YOU.YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS
  • 00:11:22.342 --> 00:11:23.143
  • YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONSABOUT WORSHIP,
  • 00:11:23.143 --> 00:11:23.744
  • ABOUT WORSHIP,BUT THAT'S NOT
  • 00:11:23.744 --> 00:11:24.911
  • BUT THAT'S NOTYOUR REAL PROBLEM.
  • 00:11:24.911 --> 00:11:26.113
  • YOUR REAL PROBLEM.YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:11:26.113 --> 00:11:27.447
  • YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU'REA WOMAN LIVING WITH
  • 00:11:27.447 --> 00:11:28.849
  • A WOMAN LIVING WITHSUCH BROKENNESS,
  • 00:11:28.849 --> 00:11:30.517
  • SUCH BROKENNESS,AND YOU NEED THAT SPRING
  • 00:11:30.517 --> 00:11:31.585
  • AND YOU NEED THAT SPRINGOF LIVING WATER.
  • 00:11:31.585 --> 00:11:32.385
  • OF LIVING WATER.MATT HAGEE: AND IT WAS
  • 00:11:32.385 --> 00:11:33.453
  • MATT HAGEE: AND IT WASA CONTROVERSIAL CONVERSATION,
  • 00:11:33.453 --> 00:11:35.756
  • A CONTROVERSIAL CONVERSATION,BECAUSE WHEN THE DISCIPLES CAME
  • 00:11:35.756 --> 00:11:36.289
  • BECAUSE WHEN THE DISCIPLES CAMEBACK, THEY SAID,
  • 00:11:36.289 --> 00:11:38.158
  • BACK, THEY SAID,HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
  • 00:11:38.158 --> 00:11:39.025
  • HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?I MEAN HOW BIG A SCANDAL
  • 00:11:39.025 --> 00:11:40.427
  • I MEAN HOW BIG A SCANDALHAVE YOU STARTED?
  • 00:11:40.427 --> 00:11:43.130
  • HAVE YOU STARTED?AND HERE JESUS IS LETTING THEM
  • 00:11:43.130 --> 00:11:45.599
  • AND HERE JESUS IS LETTING THEMSEE THAT YOU CAN DO
  • 00:11:45.599 --> 00:11:46.533
  • SEE THAT YOU CAN DOCONTROVERSIAL THINGS
  • 00:11:46.533 --> 00:11:48.435
  • CONTROVERSIAL THINGSIF YOUR MOTIVE IS FOR TRUTH
  • 00:11:48.435 --> 00:11:50.504
  • IF YOUR MOTIVE IS FOR TRUTHAND ALLOW GOD'S WORD TO WORK.
  • 00:11:50.504 --> 00:11:51.571
  • AND ALLOW GOD'S WORD TO WORK.RAVI ZACHARIAS: AND BE WINSOME;
  • 00:11:51.571 --> 00:11:52.038
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: AND BE WINSOME;YOU KNOW?
  • 00:11:52.038 --> 00:11:53.373
  • YOU KNOW?AND SO PAUL WAS THE GREAT
  • 00:11:53.373 --> 00:11:55.542
  • AND SO PAUL WAS THE GREATAPOLOGIST OF HIS TIME,
  • 00:11:55.542 --> 00:11:56.710
  • APOLOGIST OF HIS TIME,APOLOGIST.
  • 00:11:56.710 --> 00:11:57.911
  • APOLOGIST.AND ACTUALLY THE BOOK OF LUKE
  • 00:11:57.911 --> 00:11:59.146
  • AND ACTUALLY THE BOOK OF LUKEACTS.
  • 00:11:59.146 --> 00:12:00.814
  • ACTS.LUKE WAS A PHYSICIAN,
  • 00:12:00.814 --> 00:12:02.716
  • LUKE WAS A PHYSICIAN,AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:12:02.716 --> 00:12:04.684
  • AND HE IS TALKING ABOUTTHE HISTORICAL VERACITY
  • 00:12:04.684 --> 00:12:05.652
  • THE HISTORICAL VERACITYOF THE FAITH.
  • 00:12:05.652 --> 00:12:06.286
  • OF THE FAITH.JOHN SAYS,
  • 00:12:06.286 --> 00:12:07.454
  • JOHN SAYS,"THESE THINGS ARE WRITTEN THAT
  • 00:12:07.454 --> 00:12:10.590
  • "THESE THINGS ARE WRITTEN THATYOU MIGHT KNOW THE TRUTH."
  • 00:12:10.590 --> 00:12:12.225
  • YOU MIGHT KNOW THE TRUTH."AND HE GIVES CONVERSATIONS
  • 00:12:12.225 --> 00:12:13.760
  • AND HE GIVES CONVERSATIONSOF PILATE'S.
  • 00:12:13.760 --> 00:12:15.495
  • OF PILATE'S.TRUTH IS A DISAPPEARING
  • 00:12:15.495 --> 00:12:17.631
  • TRUTH IS A DISAPPEARINGCATEGORY IN OUR TIMES.
  • 00:12:17.631 --> 00:12:19.299
  • CATEGORY IN OUR TIMES.FEELING AND OPINIONS
  • 00:12:19.299 --> 00:12:21.601
  • FEELING AND OPINIONSAND IDEOLOGY HAS TAKEN OVER.
  • 00:12:21.601 --> 00:12:22.736
  • AND IDEOLOGY HAS TAKEN OVER.SO I ALWAYS TELL
  • 00:12:22.736 --> 00:12:23.403
  • SO I ALWAYS TELLMY COLLEAGUES --
  • 00:12:23.403 --> 00:12:25.639
  • MY COLLEAGUES --WE HAVE 93 SPEAKERS ON OUR TEAM
  • 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:27.407
  • WE HAVE 93 SPEAKERS ON OUR TEAMPLACED ACROSS 15 COUNTRIES.
  • 00:12:27.407 --> 00:12:28.842
  • PLACED ACROSS 15 COUNTRIES.I'M JUST ONE OF THEM.
  • 00:12:28.842 --> 00:12:29.976
  • I'M JUST ONE OF THEM.AND THE -- I ALWAYS SAY
  • 00:12:29.976 --> 00:12:30.477
  • AND THE -- I ALWAYS SAYTO THEM,
  • 00:12:30.477 --> 00:12:31.311
  • TO THEM,"YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING
  • 00:12:31.311 --> 00:12:32.379
  • "YOU'RE NOT ANSWERINGA QUESTION;
  • 00:12:32.379 --> 00:12:34.414
  • A QUESTION;YOU'RE ANSWERING A QUESTIONER,
  • 00:12:34.414 --> 00:12:36.116
  • YOU'RE ANSWERING A QUESTIONER,BECAUSE BEHIND EVERY QUESTION
  • 00:12:36.116 --> 00:12:37.017
  • BECAUSE BEHIND EVERY QUESTIONIS A QUESTIONER."
  • 00:12:37.017 --> 00:12:38.185
  • IS A QUESTIONER."IF YOU WIN THE ARGUMENT
  • 00:12:38.185 --> 00:12:39.119
  • IF YOU WIN THE ARGUMENTBUT LOSE THE PERSON,
  • 00:12:39.119 --> 00:12:39.886
  • BUT LOSE THE PERSON,WHAT HAVE YOU REALLY
  • 00:12:39.886 --> 00:12:41.188
  • WHAT HAVE YOU REALLYACCOMPLISHED?
  • 00:12:41.188 --> 00:12:43.657
  • ACCOMPLISHED?SO GOOD APOLOGETICS RECOGNIZES
  • 00:12:43.657 --> 00:12:44.958
  • SO GOOD APOLOGETICS RECOGNIZESTHE INDIVIDUAL AND HIS
  • 00:12:44.958 --> 00:12:46.493
  • THE INDIVIDUAL AND HISOR HER SINCERITY.
  • 00:12:46.493 --> 00:12:47.561
  • OR HER SINCERITY.AND YOU HAVE TO BE GENTLE,
  • 00:12:47.561 --> 00:12:48.495
  • AND YOU HAVE TO BE GENTLE,BUT HERE.
  • 00:12:48.495 --> 00:12:50.163
  • BUT HERE.AND SO THE OTHER TWIN REALITIES
  • 00:12:50.163 --> 00:12:52.365
  • AND SO THE OTHER TWIN REALITIESARE CONVICTION WITH COMPASSION.
  • 00:12:52.365 --> 00:12:53.266
  • ARE CONVICTION WITH COMPASSION.IF YOU JUST HAVE CONVICTION
  • 00:12:53.266 --> 00:12:54.501
  • IF YOU JUST HAVE CONVICTIONBUT NO COMPASSION,
  • 00:12:54.501 --> 00:12:56.303
  • BUT NO COMPASSION,THE TRUTH BECOMES UNATTRACTIVE.
  • 00:12:56.303 --> 00:12:57.270
  • THE TRUTH BECOMES UNATTRACTIVE.IF YOU HAVE COMPASSION
  • 00:12:57.270 --> 00:12:58.271
  • IF YOU HAVE COMPASSIONWITH NO CONVICTION,
  • 00:12:58.271 --> 00:13:00.006
  • WITH NO CONVICTION,THEN IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPINION;
  • 00:13:00.006 --> 00:13:00.407
  • THEN IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPINION;YOU KNOW?
  • 00:13:00.407 --> 00:13:01.174
  • YOU KNOW?SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE
  • 00:13:01.174 --> 00:13:02.442
  • SO YOU HAVE TO HAVETHE CONVICTION OF TRUTH AND
  • 00:13:02.442 --> 00:13:03.910
  • THE CONVICTION OF TRUTH ANDTHE COMPASSION FOR THE PERSON.
  • 00:13:03.910 --> 00:13:04.611
  • THE COMPASSION FOR THE PERSON.MATT HAGEE: AND I THINK
  • 00:13:04.611 --> 00:13:06.379
  • MATT HAGEE: AND I THINKSOMETHING ELSE THAT'S ALSO
  • 00:13:06.379 --> 00:13:07.180
  • SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S ALSOA PART OF YOUR MINISTRY
  • 00:13:07.180 --> 00:13:08.448
  • A PART OF YOUR MINISTRYTHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE
  • 00:13:08.448 --> 00:13:11.451
  • THAT MAKES IT UNIQUEIS THAT IT'S RELATABLE.
  • 00:13:11.451 --> 00:13:12.786
  • IS THAT IT'S RELATABLE.WHEN IT COMES TO THE
  • 00:13:12.786 --> 00:13:14.688
  • WHEN IT COMES TO THEEXPLANATIONS THAT I'VE HEARD
  • 00:13:14.688 --> 00:13:16.189
  • EXPLANATIONS THAT I'VE HEARDTHEOLOGIANS, APOLOGISTS,
  • 00:13:16.189 --> 00:13:17.958
  • THEOLOGIANS, APOLOGISTS,INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WELL VERSED
  • 00:13:17.958 --> 00:13:19.259
  • INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WELL VERSEDIN DOCTRINE;
  • 00:13:19.259 --> 00:13:20.460
  • IN DOCTRINE;THEY BEGIN MANY TIMES
  • 00:13:20.460 --> 00:13:21.061
  • THEY BEGIN MANY TIMESWITH SAYING,
  • 00:13:21.061 --> 00:13:21.862
  • WITH SAYING,"NOW YOU'RE NOT GOING
  • 00:13:21.862 --> 00:13:23.063
  • "NOW YOU'RE NOT GOINGTO UNDERSTAND THIS."
  • 00:13:23.063 --> 00:13:24.431
  • TO UNDERSTAND THIS."AND THEN THEY START USING TERMS
  • 00:13:24.431 --> 00:13:25.632
  • AND THEN THEY START USING TERMSTHAT I'M NOT CERTAIN
  • 00:13:25.632 --> 00:13:27.300
  • THAT I'M NOT CERTAINTHEY UNDERSTAND.
  • 00:13:27.300 --> 00:13:29.269
  • THEY UNDERSTAND.BUT IN MANY CASES,
  • 00:13:29.269 --> 00:13:30.737
  • BUT IN MANY CASES,YOU BEGIN WITH A LOGICAL
  • 00:13:30.737 --> 00:13:32.105
  • YOU BEGIN WITH A LOGICALCONTEXT THAT MOVES
  • 00:13:32.105 --> 00:13:34.107
  • CONTEXT THAT MOVESINTO A SPIRITUAL APPLICATION.
  • 00:13:34.107 --> 00:13:35.876
  • INTO A SPIRITUAL APPLICATION.AND I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT
  • 00:13:35.876 --> 00:13:37.010
  • AND I FIND IT INTERESTING THATYOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PETER
  • 00:13:37.010 --> 00:13:37.510
  • YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PETERAT PENTECOST,
  • 00:13:37.510 --> 00:13:38.979
  • AT PENTECOST,BECAUSE HE DID THE SAME THING.
  • 00:13:38.979 --> 00:13:39.446
  • BECAUSE HE DID THE SAME THING.RAVI ZACHARIAS: RIGHT.
  • 00:13:39.446 --> 00:13:40.080
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: RIGHT.MATT HAGEE: HE SAID,
  • 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:40.714
  • MATT HAGEE: HE SAID,"THESE MEN AREN'T DRUNK
  • 00:13:40.714 --> 00:13:41.348
  • "THESE MEN AREN'T DRUNKAS YOU SUPPOSE."
  • 00:13:41.348 --> 00:13:42.148
  • AS YOU SUPPOSE."HE STARTED WITH THE LOGIC.
  • 00:13:42.148 --> 00:13:42.682
  • HE STARTED WITH THE LOGIC.HE SAID, LOOK;
  • 00:13:42.682 --> 00:13:43.850
  • HE SAID, LOOK;WHAT YOU SEE IS NOT WHAT YOU
  • 00:13:43.850 --> 00:13:44.217
  • WHAT YOU SEE IS NOT WHAT YOUSEE.
  • 00:13:44.217 --> 00:13:45.452
  • SEE.NOW LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT THIS
  • 00:13:45.452 --> 00:13:46.586
  • NOW LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT THISIS.
  • 00:13:46.586 --> 00:13:48.822
  • IS.AND SO HE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN TO
  • 00:13:48.822 --> 00:13:50.557
  • AND SO HE IMMEDIATELY BEGAN TOOFFER THEM AN EXPLANATION
  • 00:13:50.557 --> 00:13:51.825
  • OFFER THEM AN EXPLANATIONBASED ON WHAT HE ADDRESSED
  • 00:13:51.825 --> 00:13:54.060
  • BASED ON WHAT HE ADDRESSEDAT THE VERY SURFACE LEVEL.
  • 00:13:54.060 --> 00:13:54.728
  • AT THE VERY SURFACE LEVEL.AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE
  • 00:13:54.728 --> 00:13:56.229
  • AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THEPROBLEMS THAT THE CHURCH FACES
  • 00:13:56.229 --> 00:13:57.297
  • PROBLEMS THAT THE CHURCH FACESTHESE DAYS.
  • 00:13:57.297 --> 00:13:58.465
  • THESE DAYS.IN OUR CULTURE,
  • 00:13:58.465 --> 00:13:59.666
  • IN OUR CULTURE,PEOPLE FIND OUR FAITH,
  • 00:13:59.666 --> 00:14:00.333
  • PEOPLE FIND OUR FAITH,IN MANY CASES,
  • 00:14:00.333 --> 00:14:01.334
  • IN MANY CASES,TO BE IRRELEVANT,
  • 00:14:01.334 --> 00:14:02.535
  • TO BE IRRELEVANT,BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATABLE
  • 00:14:02.535 --> 00:14:04.504
  • BECAUSE IT'S NOT RELATABLETO THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN,
  • 00:14:04.504 --> 00:14:05.605
  • TO THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN,BASED ON OUR LACK
  • 00:14:05.605 --> 00:14:07.707
  • BASED ON OUR LACKOF WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE.
  • 00:14:07.707 --> 00:14:08.208
  • OF WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE.RAVI ZACHARIAS: YOU ARE
  • 00:14:08.208 --> 00:14:08.708
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: YOU ARESO RIGHT.
  • 00:14:08.708 --> 00:14:10.210
  • SO RIGHT.AND I APPRECIATE HOW YOU PHRASE
  • 00:14:10.210 --> 00:14:11.077
  • AND I APPRECIATE HOW YOU PHRASETHE VERY QUESTION
  • 00:14:11.077 --> 00:14:12.145
  • THE VERY QUESTIONAND THE CONTEXT, MATT.
  • 00:14:12.145 --> 00:14:13.413
  • AND THE CONTEXT, MATT.THIS IS CRITICAL WHAT YOU'RE
  • 00:14:13.413 --> 00:14:14.581
  • THIS IS CRITICAL WHAT YOU'RESAYING.
  • 00:14:14.581 --> 00:14:15.982
  • SAYING.HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE
  • 00:14:15.982 --> 00:14:17.984
  • HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATEIN THESE HOSTILE ARENAS?
  • 00:14:17.984 --> 00:14:19.185
  • IN THESE HOSTILE ARENAS?HOW DO YOU GET THROUGH?
  • 00:14:19.185 --> 00:14:21.421
  • HOW DO YOU GET THROUGH?AND ANYONE, WHO'S A MOM OR DAD,
  • 00:14:21.421 --> 00:14:23.056
  • AND ANYONE, WHO'S A MOM OR DAD,SEES REALITY IN THE QUESTIONS
  • 00:14:23.056 --> 00:14:23.723
  • SEES REALITY IN THE QUESTIONSOF A CHILD.
  • 00:14:23.723 --> 00:14:24.424
  • OF A CHILD.OKAY.
  • 00:14:24.424 --> 00:14:26.693
  • OKAY.SO THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS
  • 00:14:26.693 --> 00:14:28.361
  • SO THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTSTO EVERY RESPONSE.
  • 00:14:28.361 --> 00:14:29.863
  • TO EVERY RESPONSE.THERE'S THE ARGUMENT.
  • 00:14:29.863 --> 00:14:31.231
  • THERE'S THE ARGUMENT.THERE'S THE ILLUSTRATION.
  • 00:14:31.231 --> 00:14:32.766
  • THERE'S THE ILLUSTRATION.AND THERE'S THE APPLICATION.
  • 00:14:32.766 --> 00:14:34.401
  • AND THERE'S THE APPLICATION.IF YOU JUST GIVE AN ARGUMENT
  • 00:14:34.401 --> 00:14:36.303
  • IF YOU JUST GIVE AN ARGUMENTBUT IT IS NOT COMMUNICATED
  • 00:14:36.303 --> 00:14:38.305
  • BUT IT IS NOT COMMUNICATEDWITH RELEVANCE AND A STORY,
  • 00:14:38.305 --> 00:14:39.673
  • WITH RELEVANCE AND A STORY,THEN YOU'VE GOT A ROOM FULL
  • 00:14:39.673 --> 00:14:40.840
  • THEN YOU'VE GOT A ROOM FULLOF STUFF WITH NO LIGHT
  • 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:41.975
  • OF STUFF WITH NO LIGHTCOMING INTO IT,
  • 00:14:41.975 --> 00:14:42.842
  • COMING INTO IT,AND IF YOU JUST GIVE
  • 00:14:42.842 --> 00:14:44.210
  • AND IF YOU JUST GIVETHE ARGUMENT AND ILLUSTRATION,
  • 00:14:44.210 --> 00:14:45.979
  • THE ARGUMENT AND ILLUSTRATION,BUT DON'T GIVE THE APPLICATION.
  • 00:14:45.979 --> 00:14:46.713
  • BUT DON'T GIVE THE APPLICATION.YOU KNOW RECENTLY,
  • 00:14:46.713 --> 00:14:48.548
  • YOU KNOW RECENTLY,THIS TREMENDOUS EFFORT TO GET
  • 00:14:48.548 --> 00:14:50.317
  • THIS TREMENDOUS EFFORT TO GETLAND ON THE MOON FROM INDIA,
  • 00:14:50.317 --> 00:14:51.518
  • LAND ON THE MOON FROM INDIA,GAGANYAN 2,
  • 00:14:51.518 --> 00:14:53.420
  • GAGANYAN 2,GREAT EFFORT, GREAT SCIENTISTS.
  • 00:14:53.420 --> 00:14:54.321
  • GREAT EFFORT, GREAT SCIENTISTS.INDIA PRODUCES SOME
  • 00:14:54.321 --> 00:14:55.322
  • INDIA PRODUCES SOMEOF THE FINEST SCIENTISTS.
  • 00:14:55.322 --> 00:14:57.157
  • OF THE FINEST SCIENTISTS.EVERYTHING WENT WRONG UNTIL
  • 00:14:57.157 --> 00:14:58.892
  • EVERYTHING WENT WRONG UNTILTHE LAST KILOMETER AND A HALF.
  • 00:14:58.892 --> 00:15:00.226
  • THE LAST KILOMETER AND A HALF.THEY COULDN'T LAND IT WOULD
  • 00:15:00.226 --> 00:15:01.594
  • THEY COULDN'T LAND IT WOULDWITHOUT BREAKING IT.
  • 00:15:01.594 --> 00:15:04.164
  • WITHOUT BREAKING IT.LANDING THE ANSWER
  • 00:15:04.164 --> 00:15:05.899
  • LANDING THE ANSWERIS IMPORTANT.
  • 00:15:05.899 --> 00:15:08.335
  • IS IMPORTANT.IF YOU JUST GET CLOSE BUT DON'T
  • 00:15:08.335 --> 00:15:09.369
  • IF YOU JUST GET CLOSE BUT DON'TLAND IT -- AND OF COURSE,
  • 00:15:09.369 --> 00:15:10.470
  • LAND IT -- AND OF COURSE,THE SCIENTISTS WILL LEARN
  • 00:15:10.470 --> 00:15:12.305
  • THE SCIENTISTS WILL LEARNFROM THAT, WHATEVER WENT WRONG.
  • 00:15:12.305 --> 00:15:14.007
  • FROM THAT, WHATEVER WENT WRONG.THAT'S JUST AN ILLUSTRATION.
  • 00:15:14.007 --> 00:15:15.608
  • THAT'S JUST AN ILLUSTRATION.BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH
  • 00:15:15.608 --> 00:15:17.410
  • BUT YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGHTHE LOGIC OF WHAT IT IS,
  • 00:15:17.410 --> 00:15:18.311
  • THE LOGIC OF WHAT IT IS,SO THAT THE PERSON DOESN'T
  • 00:15:18.311 --> 00:15:19.479
  • SO THAT THE PERSON DOESN'TTHINK YOU'RE DODGING
  • 00:15:19.479 --> 00:15:20.513
  • THINK YOU'RE DODGINGTHE QUESTION.
  • 00:15:20.513 --> 00:15:21.581
  • THE QUESTION.THAT'S THE HARD WORK
  • 00:15:21.581 --> 00:15:22.615
  • THAT'S THE HARD WORKOF THE APOLOGISTS.
  • 00:15:22.615 --> 00:15:23.183
  • OF THE APOLOGISTS.YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:15:23.183 --> 00:15:23.683
  • YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTANDPHILOSOPHY.
  • 00:15:23.683 --> 00:15:24.351
  • PHILOSOPHY.YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:15:24.351 --> 00:15:25.385
  • YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTANDTHE SCIENCES.
  • 00:15:25.385 --> 00:15:26.186
  • THE SCIENCES.YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:15:26.186 --> 00:15:26.953
  • YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTANDMETAPHYSICS.
  • 00:15:26.953 --> 00:15:28.621
  • METAPHYSICS.THESE ARE ALL FEARSOME TERMS,
  • 00:15:28.621 --> 00:15:29.622
  • THESE ARE ALL FEARSOME TERMS,BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
  • 00:15:29.622 --> 00:15:30.490
  • BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT.HOWEVER,
  • 00:15:30.490 --> 00:15:32.258
  • HOWEVER,IF YOU DON'T GIVE A STORY TO
  • 00:15:32.258 --> 00:15:34.494
  • IF YOU DON'T GIVE A STORY TONARRATE IT AND ILLUSTRATE IT,
  • 00:15:34.494 --> 00:15:36.162
  • NARRATE IT AND ILLUSTRATE IT,IT ALL SORT OF HANGS IN
  • 00:15:36.162 --> 00:15:38.298
  • IT ALL SORT OF HANGS INTHAT CLOUDED ATMOSPHERE.
  • 00:15:38.298 --> 00:15:38.832
  • THAT CLOUDED ATMOSPHERE.THEY HEAR THE STORY,
  • 00:15:38.832 --> 00:15:39.232
  • THEY HEAR THE STORY,AND THEY SAY,
  • 00:15:39.232 --> 00:15:40.700
  • AND THEY SAY,"BOY THE PROBLEM OF SUFFERING,
  • 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:41.468
  • "BOY THE PROBLEM OF SUFFERING,THIS IS NOT JUST A
  • 00:15:41.468 --> 00:15:43.036
  • THIS IS NOT JUST APHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT.
  • 00:15:43.036 --> 00:15:44.604
  • PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT.I HAVE TO STAND BY THE BEDSIDE
  • 00:15:44.604 --> 00:15:45.505
  • I HAVE TO STAND BY THE BEDSIDEOF ONE WHO'S DYING
  • 00:15:45.505 --> 00:15:46.606
  • OF ONE WHO'S DYINGTO UNDERSTAND THE PAIN."
  • 00:15:46.606 --> 00:15:48.074
  • TO UNDERSTAND THE PAIN."BUT WHEN YOU LAND IT,
  • 00:15:48.074 --> 00:15:49.109
  • BUT WHEN YOU LAND IT,YOU HEAR WHAT IT IS;
  • 00:15:49.109 --> 00:15:50.610
  • YOU HEAR WHAT IT IS;THAT MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT
  • 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:50.977
  • THAT MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENTFOR THEE,
  • 00:15:50.977 --> 00:15:51.878
  • FOR THEE,AND HIS STRENGTH IS MADE
  • 00:15:51.878 --> 00:15:53.646
  • AND HIS STRENGTH IS MADEPERFECT IN YOUR WEAKNESS.
  • 00:15:53.646 --> 00:15:55.415
  • PERFECT IN YOUR WEAKNESS.THOSE THREE COMPONENTS
  • 00:15:55.415 --> 00:15:57.350
  • THOSE THREE COMPONENTSARE INEXTRICABLY JOINED
  • 00:15:57.350 --> 00:15:58.518
  • ARE INEXTRICABLY JOINEDIN THE MINISTRY OF CHRIST.
  • 00:15:58.518 --> 00:16:00.153
  • IN THE MINISTRY OF CHRIST.THE GOSPEL IS A STORY.
  • 00:16:00.153 --> 00:16:01.521
  • THE GOSPEL IS A STORY.BUT THE GOSPEL GOES BACK
  • 00:16:01.521 --> 00:16:04.758
  • BUT THE GOSPEL GOES BACKTO CENTURIES OF WAITING
  • 00:16:04.758 --> 00:16:05.859
  • TO CENTURIES OF WAITINGAND ARGUMENT.
  • 00:16:05.859 --> 00:16:07.861
  • AND ARGUMENT.SO IF WE ARGUE WELL,
  • 00:16:07.861 --> 00:16:10.063
  • SO IF WE ARGUE WELL,ILLUSTRATE WELL, AND APPLY IT,
  • 00:16:10.063 --> 00:16:11.331
  • ILLUSTRATE WELL, AND APPLY IT,IT'S VERY HARD FOR THE COUNTER
  • 00:16:11.331 --> 00:16:12.632
  • IT'S VERY HARD FOR THE COUNTERPERSPECTIVE TO GET THE BETTER
  • 00:16:12.632 --> 00:16:13.867
  • PERSPECTIVE TO GET THE BETTEROF THAT.
  • 00:16:13.867 --> 00:16:14.768
  • OF THAT.MATT HAGEE: ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU
  • 00:16:14.768 --> 00:16:16.703
  • MATT HAGEE: ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUHAVE, AS YOU SAY,
  • 00:16:16.703 --> 00:16:17.771
  • HAVE, AS YOU SAY,THE CONNECTION
  • 00:16:17.771 --> 00:16:20.073
  • THE CONNECTIONWITH THE CONVICTION; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:20.073 --> 00:16:22.242
  • WITH THE CONVICTION; YOU KNOW?IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT,
  • 00:16:22.242 --> 00:16:23.076
  • IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT,IN MY LIFE,
  • 00:16:23.076 --> 00:16:24.044
  • IN MY LIFE,I KNOW THAT IT HAS ALWAYS
  • 00:16:24.044 --> 00:16:25.912
  • I KNOW THAT IT HAS ALWAYSBENEFITED ME TO BE CERTAIN
  • 00:16:25.912 --> 00:16:27.013
  • BENEFITED ME TO BE CERTAINOF WHAT I BELIEVE.
  • 00:16:27.013 --> 00:16:27.714
  • OF WHAT I BELIEVE.RAVI ZACHARIAS: RIGHT.
  • 00:16:27.714 --> 00:16:29.549
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: RIGHT.MATT HAGEE: IN SPITE OF HOW
  • 00:16:29.549 --> 00:16:30.984
  • MATT HAGEE: IN SPITE OF HOWMUCH SKEPTICISM OTHERS MAY HAVE
  • 00:16:30.984 --> 00:16:32.152
  • MUCH SKEPTICISM OTHERS MAY HAVEABOUT IT; YOU KNOW?
  • 00:16:32.152 --> 00:16:32.952
  • ABOUT IT; YOU KNOW?IF THEY LOOK YOU IN THE EYE
  • 00:16:32.952 --> 00:16:33.553
  • IF THEY LOOK YOU IN THE EYEAND THEY ASK YOU,
  • 00:16:33.553 --> 00:16:35.121
  • AND THEY ASK YOU,"DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT,"
  • 00:16:35.121 --> 00:16:36.122
  • "DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT,"THERE'S SOMETHING DISARMING
  • 00:16:36.122 --> 00:16:36.923
  • THERE'S SOMETHING DISARMINGWHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THEM
  • 00:16:36.923 --> 00:16:38.224
  • WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THEMAND GO, "YES."
  • 00:16:38.224 --> 00:16:40.460
  • AND GO, "YES."AND SOMETIMES JUST "YES"
  • 00:16:40.460 --> 00:16:41.294
  • AND SOMETIMES JUST "YES"AND "NO" ARE THE GREATEST
  • 00:16:41.294 --> 00:16:42.295
  • AND "NO" ARE THE GREATESTEXPLANATIONS THAT YOU
  • 00:16:42.295 --> 00:16:43.329
  • EXPLANATIONS THAT YOUCAN OFFER.
  • 00:16:43.329 --> 00:16:44.164
  • CAN OFFER.RAVI ZACHARIAS: AND YOU KNOW
  • 00:16:44.164 --> 00:16:44.964
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: AND YOU KNOWTHE ILLUSION UNDER WHICH
  • 00:16:44.964 --> 00:16:45.999
  • THE ILLUSION UNDER WHICHWE LIVE; YOU KNOW,
  • 00:16:45.999 --> 00:16:47.100
  • WE LIVE; YOU KNOW,MATT AND KENDAL,
  • 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.436
  • MATT AND KENDAL,IS THAT PEOPLE SORT OF THINK
  • 00:16:49.436 --> 00:16:51.371
  • IS THAT PEOPLE SORT OF THINKWE LIVE BY FAITH,
  • 00:16:51.371 --> 00:16:52.639
  • WE LIVE BY FAITH,AND THE SECULAR WORLD LIVES
  • 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.308
  • AND THE SECULAR WORLD LIVESBY RATIONALITY AND REASON.
  • 00:16:55.308 --> 00:16:56.342
  • BY RATIONALITY AND REASON.A QUESTIONER STOOD UP
  • 00:16:56.342 --> 00:16:58.178
  • A QUESTIONER STOOD UPIN BURLINGTON, ONTARIO, CANADA,
  • 00:16:58.178 --> 00:16:58.711
  • IN BURLINGTON, ONTARIO, CANADA,AND SAID TO ME,
  • 00:16:58.711 --> 00:16:59.312
  • AND SAID TO ME,"YOU KNOW I LIVE
  • 00:16:59.312 --> 00:17:00.513
  • "YOU KNOW I LIVEBY THE SCIENCES.
  • 00:17:00.513 --> 00:17:02.015
  • BY THE SCIENCES.I DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR
  • 00:17:02.015 --> 00:17:04.150
  • I DON'T HAVE ROOM FORALL THESE PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUES
  • 00:17:04.150 --> 00:17:05.051
  • ALL THESE PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUESAND ETHICAL ISSUES.
  • 00:17:05.051 --> 00:17:06.753
  • AND ETHICAL ISSUES.I LIVE WITH PURE SCIENCES."
  • 00:17:06.753 --> 00:17:07.854
  • I LIVE WITH PURE SCIENCES."AND SO I SAID, "OKAY.
  • 00:17:07.854 --> 00:17:08.922
  • AND SO I SAID, "OKAY.TELL ME THIS;
  • 00:17:08.922 --> 00:17:10.690
  • TELL ME THIS;WHICH OF THE PURE SCIENCES
  • 00:17:10.690 --> 00:17:12.459
  • WHICH OF THE PURE SCIENCESGIVES YOU TO IMPERATIVE
  • 00:17:12.459 --> 00:17:13.993
  • GIVES YOU TO IMPERATIVEFOR THE SCIENTIST TO BE HONEST
  • 00:17:13.993 --> 00:17:16.196
  • FOR THE SCIENTIST TO BE HONESTIN THEIR FINDINGS?
  • 00:17:16.196 --> 00:17:18.264
  • IN THEIR FINDINGS?WHAT CONCEPT FROM PHYSICS OR
  • 00:17:18.264 --> 00:17:20.400
  • WHAT CONCEPT FROM PHYSICS ORCHEMISTRY TELLS THE SCIENTIST,
  • 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:22.435
  • CHEMISTRY TELLS THE SCIENTIST,"BE HONEST IN YOUR FINDINGS?"
  • 00:17:22.435 --> 00:17:24.237
  • "BE HONEST IN YOUR FINDINGS?"I SAID, "THAT'S NOT PHYSICS;
  • 00:17:24.237 --> 00:17:25.505
  • I SAID, "THAT'S NOT PHYSICS;THAT'S ETHICS.
  • 00:17:25.505 --> 00:17:26.573
  • THAT'S ETHICS.THAT'S METAPHYSICS."
  • 00:17:26.573 --> 00:17:27.640
  • THAT'S METAPHYSICS."I SAID, "SO YOU'RE NOT A PURE
  • 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:28.374
  • I SAID, "SO YOU'RE NOT A PURESCIENTIST,
  • 00:17:28.374 --> 00:17:29.576
  • SCIENTIST,REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS THAT
  • 00:17:29.576 --> 00:17:30.477
  • REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS THATYOU'RE SAYING."
  • 00:17:30.477 --> 00:17:32.345
  • YOU'RE SAYING."THIS IS WHAT MADE AMERICA WHAT
  • 00:17:32.345 --> 00:17:33.880
  • THIS IS WHAT MADE AMERICA WHATIT IS AND WE'RE LOSING IT.
  • 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:34.514
  • IT IS AND WE'RE LOSING IT.FOR AMERICA,
  • 00:17:34.514 --> 00:17:35.715
  • FOR AMERICA,REASONING ALONE WAS NOT
  • 00:17:35.715 --> 00:17:36.549
  • REASONING ALONE WAS NOTIMPORTANT.
  • 00:17:36.549 --> 00:17:39.319
  • IMPORTANT.MORAL REASONING WAS CRITICAL
  • 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:39.786
  • MORAL REASONING WAS CRITICALACTUALLY.
  • 00:17:39.786 --> 00:17:40.520
  • ACTUALLY.SO THE IMPACE OF THE WESLEY'S,
  • 00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:41.321
  • SO THE IMPACE OF THE WESLEY'S,AND THE WHITFIELD'S,
  • 00:17:41.321 --> 00:17:42.555
  • AND THE WHITFIELD'S,AND THE EVANGELISTS ACROSS
  • 00:17:42.555 --> 00:17:44.457
  • AND THE EVANGELISTS ACROSSTHE DECADES HAS SHAPED
  • 00:17:44.457 --> 00:17:46.159
  • THE DECADES HAS SHAPEDTHE ETHOS OF THIS CULTURE.
  • 00:17:46.159 --> 00:17:47.393
  • THE ETHOS OF THIS CULTURE.AND IF WE LOSE IT,
  • 00:17:47.393 --> 00:17:48.495
  • AND IF WE LOSE IT,WE REALLY LOSE WHAT WAS
  • 00:17:48.495 --> 00:17:50.063
  • WE REALLY LOSE WHAT WASDISTINCTIVE OF THIS WORLD.
  • 00:17:50.063 --> 00:17:50.830
  • DISTINCTIVE OF THIS WORLD.MATT HAGEE: AND AS YOU TALK
  • 00:17:50.830 --> 00:17:51.598
  • MATT HAGEE: AND AS YOU TALKABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXT
  • 00:17:51.598 --> 00:17:52.799
  • ABOUT IT IN THE CONTEXTOF OUR HISTORY,
  • 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:54.601
  • OF OUR HISTORY,I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT,
  • 00:17:54.601 --> 00:17:56.870
  • I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT,WITH INTENTION,
  • 00:17:56.870 --> 00:17:58.204
  • WITH INTENTION,THOSE WHO HAVE A DIFFERENT
  • 00:17:58.204 --> 00:18:00.473
  • THOSE WHO HAVE A DIFFERENTAGENDA THAN THE FOUNDATIONS
  • 00:18:00.473 --> 00:18:02.008
  • AGENDA THAN THE FOUNDATIONSTHAT HAVE BUILT THIS NATION,
  • 00:18:02.008 --> 00:18:04.310
  • THAT HAVE BUILT THIS NATION,HAVE REMOVED THAT CONTEXT FROM
  • 00:18:04.310 --> 00:18:05.678
  • HAVE REMOVED THAT CONTEXT FROMWHAT WE'RE TEACHING IN
  • 00:18:05.678 --> 00:18:07.013
  • WHAT WE'RE TEACHING INOUR CLASSROOMS AND WHAT WE'RE
  • 00:18:07.013 --> 00:18:07.981
  • OUR CLASSROOMS AND WHAT WE'RETEACHING TO OUR CHILDREN;
  • 00:18:07.981 --> 00:18:08.548
  • TEACHING TO OUR CHILDREN;YOU KNOW?
  • 00:18:08.548 --> 00:18:10.016
  • YOU KNOW?THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE,
  • 00:18:10.016 --> 00:18:11.284
  • THEY DON'T RECOGNIZE,TODAY IN HISTORY,
  • 00:18:11.284 --> 00:18:12.652
  • TODAY IN HISTORY,SEVERAL HISTORICAL EVENTS
  • 00:18:12.652 --> 00:18:13.786
  • SEVERAL HISTORICAL EVENTSTHAT REALLY SHAPED
  • 00:18:13.786 --> 00:18:15.188
  • THAT REALLY SHAPEDTHE AMERICAN OUTCOME.
  • 00:18:15.188 --> 00:18:16.256
  • THE AMERICAN OUTCOME.FOR EXAMPLE,
  • 00:18:16.256 --> 00:18:17.123
  • FOR EXAMPLE,FRANCE WENT THROUGH
  • 00:18:17.123 --> 00:18:18.124
  • FRANCE WENT THROUGHA REVOLUTION.
  • 00:18:18.124 --> 00:18:19.559
  • A REVOLUTION.FRANCE DECIDED THAT LIBERTY,
  • 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:20.393
  • FRANCE DECIDED THAT LIBERTY,AND FRATERNITY,
  • 00:18:20.393 --> 00:18:21.761
  • AND FRATERNITY,AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WERE
  • 00:18:21.761 --> 00:18:23.129
  • AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WEREGOING TO BE THE VALUES
  • 00:18:23.129 --> 00:18:24.964
  • GOING TO BE THE VALUESOF THEIR REGIME.
  • 00:18:24.964 --> 00:18:26.266
  • OF THEIR REGIME.AND ALL THEY CONTINUOUSLY DID
  • 00:18:26.266 --> 00:18:27.233
  • AND ALL THEY CONTINUOUSLY DIDFOR YEARS WAS BEHEAD
  • 00:18:27.233 --> 00:18:28.134
  • FOR YEARS WAS BEHEADONE ANOTHER.
  • 00:18:28.134 --> 00:18:28.768
  • ONE ANOTHER.WHY?
  • 00:18:28.768 --> 00:18:29.702
  • WHY?BECAUSE IT WASN'T CONNECTED
  • 00:18:29.702 --> 00:18:30.937
  • BECAUSE IT WASN'T CONNECTEDTO FAITH.
  • 00:18:30.937 --> 00:18:32.672
  • TO FAITH.YOU KNOW OUR FREEDOM WAS NOT
  • 00:18:32.672 --> 00:18:33.773
  • YOU KNOW OUR FREEDOM WAS NOTGIVING US A LICENSE TO DO
  • 00:18:33.773 --> 00:18:34.974
  • GIVING US A LICENSE TO DOAS WE WANTED.
  • 00:18:34.974 --> 00:18:35.975
  • AS WE WANTED.OUR FREEDOM WAS GIVING US
  • 00:18:35.975 --> 00:18:37.877
  • OUR FREEDOM WAS GIVING USA LICENSE TO DO AS WE SHOULD.
  • 00:18:37.877 --> 00:18:39.445
  • A LICENSE TO DO AS WE SHOULD.AND WHAT SHAPED -- WHAT WE
  • 00:18:39.445 --> 00:18:41.447
  • AND WHAT SHAPED -- WHAT WESHOULD DO WAS THE WORD OF GOD.
  • 00:18:41.447 --> 00:18:44.817
  • SHOULD DO WAS THE WORD OF GOD.AND WHEN YOU ERASE THAT CHAPTER
  • 00:18:44.817 --> 00:18:46.519
  • AND WHEN YOU ERASE THAT CHAPTEROF YOUR HISTORY SO THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:47.787
  • OF YOUR HISTORY SO THAT YOU CANTWIST THE FUTURE
  • 00:18:47.787 --> 00:18:49.322
  • TWIST THE FUTUREOR MANIPULATE IT,
  • 00:18:49.322 --> 00:18:50.356
  • OR MANIPULATE IT,YOU'RE REALLY PLAYING
  • 00:18:50.356 --> 00:18:51.858
  • YOU'RE REALLY PLAYINGA DANGEROUS GAME THAT HAS
  • 00:18:51.858 --> 00:18:53.293
  • A DANGEROUS GAME THAT HASLONG-RUNNING CONSEQUENCES.
  • 00:18:53.293 --> 00:18:54.127
  • LONG-RUNNING CONSEQUENCES.RAVI ZACHARIAS: YOU'RE RIGHT
  • 00:18:54.127 --> 00:18:55.028
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: YOU'RE RIGHTON.
  • 00:18:55.028 --> 00:18:56.329
  • ON.AND THIS WAS THE DIFFERENCE
  • 00:18:56.329 --> 00:18:57.964
  • AND THIS WAS THE DIFFERENCEACROSS THE LAST FEW DECADES
  • 00:18:57.964 --> 00:18:58.831
  • ACROSS THE LAST FEW DECADESBETWEEN EUROPE,
  • 00:18:58.831 --> 00:19:00.099
  • BETWEEN EUROPE,THE UNITED STATES,
  • 00:19:00.099 --> 00:19:01.234
  • THE UNITED STATES,AND THE UNITED KINGDOM
  • 00:19:01.234 --> 00:19:03.036
  • AND THE UNITED KINGDOMON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
  • 00:19:03.036 --> 00:19:04.938
  • ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.REASON, RATIONALISM,
  • 00:19:04.938 --> 00:19:07.040
  • REASON, RATIONALISM,EXISTENTIALISM, AND PURICISM,
  • 00:19:07.040 --> 00:19:08.441
  • EXISTENTIALISM, AND PURICISM,ALL OF THESE "ISMS" CAME TO US
  • 00:19:08.441 --> 00:19:09.576
  • ALL OF THESE "ISMS" CAME TO USFROM EUROPE.
  • 00:19:09.576 --> 00:19:11.077
  • FROM EUROPE.AND IT WAS A VERY VALID
  • 00:19:11.077 --> 00:19:12.078
  • AND IT WAS A VERY VALIDCONTRIBUTION.
  • 00:19:12.078 --> 00:19:13.146
  • CONTRIBUTION.BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY MORAL
  • 00:19:13.146 --> 00:19:14.247
  • BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY MORALREASONING FROM ALL OF THAT,
  • 00:19:14.247 --> 00:19:15.782
  • REASONING FROM ALL OF THAT,WHAT DO THESE "ISMS" REALLY,
  • 00:19:15.782 --> 00:19:16.849
  • WHAT DO THESE "ISMS" REALLY,AS E.V. HILL,
  • 00:19:16.849 --> 00:19:18.351
  • AS E.V. HILL,THE FAMED AFRICAN PREACHER,
  • 00:19:18.351 --> 00:19:19.485
  • THE FAMED AFRICAN PREACHER,USED TO SAY,
  • 00:19:19.485 --> 00:19:20.453
  • USED TO SAY,"THESE ISMS SHOULD BECOME
  • 00:19:20.453 --> 00:19:21.621
  • "THESE ISMS SHOULD BECOMETHE WASISMS."
  • 00:19:21.621 --> 00:19:23.256
  • THE WASISMS."(LAUGHTER)
  • 00:19:23.256 --> 00:19:25.858
  • (LAUGHTER)YOU TAKE THE STORY OF ISRAEL.
  • 00:19:25.858 --> 00:19:29.295
  • YOU TAKE THE STORY OF ISRAEL.IT IS SO BEAUTIFULLY LOGICAL.
  • 00:19:29.295 --> 00:19:31.531
  • IT IS SO BEAUTIFULLY LOGICAL.FIRST, THEY ARE REDEEMED.
  • 00:19:31.531 --> 00:19:32.532
  • FIRST, THEY ARE REDEEMED."I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD,
  • 00:19:32.532 --> 00:19:33.366
  • "I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD,WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LAND
  • 00:19:33.366 --> 00:19:34.300
  • WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LANDOF EGYPT."
  • 00:19:34.300 --> 00:19:35.168
  • OF EGYPT."ON THAT PEG,
  • 00:19:35.168 --> 00:19:36.836
  • ON THAT PEG,HANGS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
  • 00:19:36.836 --> 00:19:38.271
  • HANGS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.SO REDEMPTION ALWAYS PRECEDES
  • 00:19:38.271 --> 00:19:39.339
  • SO REDEMPTION ALWAYS PRECEDESRIGHTEOUSNESS,
  • 00:19:39.339 --> 00:19:40.707
  • RIGHTEOUSNESS,AND THEN WORSHIP.
  • 00:19:40.707 --> 00:19:41.908
  • AND THEN WORSHIP.THE LOGIC OF GOD
  • 00:19:41.908 --> 00:19:44.143
  • THE LOGIC OF GODIS INESCAPABLE.
  • 00:19:44.143 --> 00:19:44.911
  • IS INESCAPABLE.YOU SEE JESUS DIDN'T REALLY
  • 00:19:44.911 --> 00:19:45.945
  • YOU SEE JESUS DIDN'T REALLYCOME INTO THIS WORLD TO MAKE
  • 00:19:45.945 --> 00:19:47.213
  • COME INTO THIS WORLD TO MAKEBAD PEOPLE GOOD.
  • 00:19:47.213 --> 00:19:47.880
  • BAD PEOPLE GOOD.HE CAME INTO THIS WORLD
  • 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:49.582
  • HE CAME INTO THIS WORLDTO MAKE DEAD PEOPLE LIVE.
  • 00:19:49.582 --> 00:19:50.950
  • TO MAKE DEAD PEOPLE LIVE.WE'RE DEAD TO GOD.
  • 00:19:50.950 --> 00:19:53.519
  • WE'RE DEAD TO GOD.HE TRANSFORMS THAT HEART,
  • 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.421
  • HE TRANSFORMS THAT HEART,AWAKENS THAT DEAD CONSCIENCE,
  • 00:19:55.421 --> 00:19:56.456
  • AWAKENS THAT DEAD CONSCIENCE,AS IT WERE;
  • 00:19:56.456 --> 00:19:59.459
  • AS IT WERE;AND PUTS THAT TRUTH INTO US
  • 00:19:59.459 --> 00:20:00.293
  • AND PUTS THAT TRUTH INTO USAND THE HOLY SPIRIT
  • 00:20:00.293 --> 00:20:02.128
  • AND THE HOLY SPIRITWITHIN EVERY BELIEVER.
  • 00:20:02.128 --> 00:20:03.529
  • WITHIN EVERY BELIEVER.THE MORE YOU LISTEN TO
  • 00:20:03.529 --> 00:20:04.697
  • THE MORE YOU LISTEN TOTHE TEACHINGS OF JESUS,
  • 00:20:04.697 --> 00:20:07.267
  • THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS,YOU'LL FIND OUT HOW COHERENT
  • 00:20:07.267 --> 00:20:08.234
  • YOU'LL FIND OUT HOW COHERENTIT IS.
  • 00:20:08.234 --> 00:20:09.636
  • IT IS.AND IT IS THE ONLY MESSAGE
  • 00:20:09.636 --> 00:20:11.871
  • AND IT IS THE ONLY MESSAGEIN THE WORLD THAT READS ME
  • 00:20:11.871 --> 00:20:13.139
  • IN THE WORLD THAT READS MEACCURATELY;
  • 00:20:13.139 --> 00:20:13.773
  • ACCURATELY;AND THEREFORE,
  • 00:20:13.773 --> 00:20:15.575
  • AND THEREFORE,PROVIDES THE SOLUTION
  • 00:20:15.575 --> 00:20:17.310
  • PROVIDES THE SOLUTIONFOR MY REAL MALADY,
  • 00:20:17.310 --> 00:20:18.544
  • FOR MY REAL MALADY,WHICH IS A HEART OF REBELLION
  • 00:20:18.544 --> 00:20:20.013
  • WHICH IS A HEART OF REBELLIONAGAINST GOD.
  • 00:20:20.013 --> 00:20:20.713
  • AGAINST GOD.MATT HAGEE: WELL,
  • 00:20:20.713 --> 00:20:21.414
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL,THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING TO
  • 00:20:21.414 --> 00:20:21.981
  • THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING TOCONTINUE.
  • 00:20:21.981 --> 00:20:23.616
  • CONTINUE.AND WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN US
  • 00:20:23.616 --> 00:20:24.784
  • AND WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN USAGAIN RIGHT HERE ON
  • 00:20:24.784 --> 00:20:26.085
  • AGAIN RIGHT HERE ON"THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:20:26.085 --> 00:20:29.689
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."♪ MUSIC ♪
  • 00:20:29.689 --> 00:20:30.123
  • ♪ MUSIC ♪
  • 00:20:30.123 --> 00:20:31.524
  • THE LIFE OF A CHILD IS PRECIOUS
  • 00:20:31.524 --> 00:20:32.525
  • THE LIFE OF A CHILD IS PRECIOUSIN GOD'S EYES.
  • 00:20:32.525 --> 00:20:33.359
  • IN GOD'S EYES.AND THE GIFT OF LIFE
  • 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:34.527
  • AND THE GIFT OF LIFEIS SOMETHING YOU CAN BECOME
  • 00:20:34.527 --> 00:20:35.762
  • IS SOMETHING YOU CAN BECOMEA PART OF TODAY.
  • 00:20:35.762 --> 00:20:36.863
  • A PART OF TODAY.THE SANCTUARY OF HOPE
  • 00:20:36.863 --> 00:20:38.631
  • THE SANCTUARY OF HOPEIS A ONE-OF-A-KIND SAFE HAVEN
  • 00:20:38.631 --> 00:20:39.866
  • IS A ONE-OF-A-KIND SAFE HAVENTHAT PROVIDES A LOVING,
  • 00:20:39.866 --> 00:20:40.767
  • THAT PROVIDES A LOVING,SAFE ENVIRONMENT
  • 00:20:40.767 --> 00:20:41.901
  • SAFE ENVIRONMENTWHERE BOTH BABY AND MOTHER
  • 00:20:41.901 --> 00:20:43.169
  • WHERE BOTH BABY AND MOTHERCAN RECEIVE THE EDUCATION,
  • 00:20:43.169 --> 00:20:43.936
  • CAN RECEIVE THE EDUCATION,CARE AND HOPE
  • 00:20:43.936 --> 00:20:45.271
  • CARE AND HOPETHEY DESPERATELY NEED.
  • 00:20:45.271 --> 00:20:46.406
  • THEY DESPERATELY NEED.YOUR MONTHLY GIFT WILL PROVIDE
  • 00:20:46.406 --> 00:20:47.674
  • YOUR MONTHLY GIFT WILL PROVIDETHE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE
  • 00:20:47.674 --> 00:20:49.275
  • THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGETHE LIFE OF A CHILD AND MOTHER
  • 00:20:49.275 --> 00:20:50.743
  • THE LIFE OF A CHILD AND MOTHERBY BECOMING A LEGACY PARTNER
  • 00:20:50.743 --> 00:20:51.477
  • BY BECOMING A LEGACY PARTNERTODAY.
  • 00:20:51.477 --> 00:20:52.612
  • TODAY.WHEN YOU PARTNER WITH US,
  • 00:20:52.612 --> 00:20:54.681
  • WHEN YOU PARTNER WITH US,OUR LEGACY BECOMES YOUR LEGACY.
  • 00:20:54.681 --> 00:20:56.015
  • OUR LEGACY BECOMES YOUR LEGACY.CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN
  • 00:20:56.015 --> 00:20:59.652
  • CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREENOR GO TO JHM.ORG/PARTNER.
  • 00:20:59.652 --> 00:21:00.887
  • OR GO TO JHM.ORG/PARTNER.YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN JOIN
  • 00:21:00.887 --> 00:21:02.255
  • YOU AND YOUR FAMILY CAN JOINPASTOR MATT, KENDAL,
  • 00:21:02.255 --> 00:21:02.989
  • PASTOR MATT, KENDAL,AND THEIR CHILDREN
  • 00:21:02.989 --> 00:21:05.758
  • AND THEIR CHILDRENON THE 2021 ISRAEL FAMILY TRIP,
  • 00:21:05.758 --> 00:21:07.260
  • ON THE 2021 ISRAEL FAMILY TRIP,A FUN AND EXCITING TRIP
  • 00:21:07.260 --> 00:21:09.262
  • A FUN AND EXCITING TRIPDESIGNED FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY.
  • 00:21:09.262 --> 00:21:10.496
  • DESIGNED FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY.PAST WILL MEET PRESENT,
  • 00:21:10.496 --> 00:21:11.831
  • PAST WILL MEET PRESENT,AS YOU VISIT A GALILEAN
  • 00:21:11.831 --> 00:21:12.598
  • AS YOU VISIT A GALILEANVILLAGE,
  • 00:21:12.598 --> 00:21:14.734
  • VILLAGE,RIDE ATV'S ACROSS THE DESERT,
  • 00:21:14.734 --> 00:21:15.435
  • RIDE ATV'S ACROSS THE DESERT,AND SWIM IN
  • 00:21:15.435 --> 00:21:17.003
  • AND SWIM INTHE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.
  • 00:21:17.003 --> 00:21:18.204
  • THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.SPACE IS LIMITED,
  • 00:21:18.204 --> 00:21:20.973
  • SPACE IS LIMITED,SO CALL OR GO TO JHM.ORG
  • 00:21:20.973 --> 00:21:22.308
  • SO CALL OR GO TO JHM.ORGFOR MORE INFORMATION
  • 00:21:22.308 --> 00:21:23.710
  • FOR MORE INFORMATIONAND RESERVE YOUR SPOT
  • 00:21:23.710 --> 00:21:28.581
  • AND RESERVE YOUR SPOTON THIS ONE-OF-A-KIND TOUR.IC ♪♪
  • 00:21:28.581 --> 00:21:30.083
  • ON THIS ONE-OF-A-KIND TOUR.IC ♪♪HAGEE MINISTRIES INVITES YOU
  • 00:21:30.083 --> 00:21:31.017
  • HAGEE MINISTRIES INVITES YOUTO SIGN UP FOR OUR
  • 00:21:31.017 --> 00:21:33.219
  • TO SIGN UP FOR OUR14 DAYS OF PRAYER PROCLAMATION
  • 00:21:33.219 --> 00:21:34.454
  • 14 DAYS OF PRAYER PROCLAMATIONFOR AMERICA.
  • 00:21:34.454 --> 00:21:35.088
  • FOR AMERICA.PASTOR MATT
  • 00:21:35.088 --> 00:21:36.356
  • PASTOR MATTAND PASTOR JOHN HAGEE
  • 00:21:36.356 --> 00:21:37.357
  • AND PASTOR JOHN HAGEEWILL LEAD YOU IN PRAYING
  • 00:21:37.357 --> 00:21:38.725
  • WILL LEAD YOU IN PRAYINGFOR THE LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY,
  • 00:21:38.725 --> 00:21:39.459
  • FOR THE LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY,ISRAEL,
  • 00:21:39.459 --> 00:21:40.326
  • ISRAEL,OUR FAMILIES,
  • 00:21:40.326 --> 00:21:41.627
  • OUR FAMILIES,AND OUR CHILDREN.
  • 00:21:41.627 --> 00:21:42.295
  • AND OUR CHILDREN.AMERICA,
  • 00:21:42.295 --> 00:21:43.396
  • AMERICA,WE MUST STAND AND FIGHT
  • 00:21:43.396 --> 00:21:45.098
  • WE MUST STAND AND FIGHTFOR OUR COUNTRY IN PRAYER.
  • 00:21:45.098 --> 00:21:45.665
  • FOR OUR COUNTRY IN PRAYER.JOIN US,
  • 00:21:45.665 --> 00:21:46.699
  • JOIN US,AS WE BATTLE FOR THE SOUL
  • 00:21:46.699 --> 00:21:47.533
  • AS WE BATTLE FOR THE SOULOF OUR NATION
  • 00:21:47.533 --> 00:21:49.435
  • OF OUR NATIONAND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.
  • 00:21:49.435 --> 00:21:53.005
  • AND OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.VISIT JHM.ORG/AMERICA TODAY
  • 00:21:53.005 --> 00:21:54.607
  • VISIT JHM.ORG/AMERICA TODAYTO RECEIVE THESE INSPIRATIONAL
  • 00:21:54.607 --> 00:21:55.508
  • TO RECEIVE THESE INSPIRATIONALDEVOTIONS.
  • 00:21:55.508 --> 00:21:58.644
  • DEVOTIONS.♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSICM
  • 00:21:58.644 --> 00:21:59.479
  • ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSIC ♪ MUSICMKENDAL HAGEE: WELCOME BACK TO
  • 00:21:59.479 --> 00:22:00.046
  • KENDAL HAGEE: WELCOME BACK TO"THE DIFFERENCE."
  • 00:22:00.046 --> 00:22:01.214
  • "THE DIFFERENCE."I AM ENJOYING JUST SITTING HERE
  • 00:22:01.214 --> 00:22:02.782
  • I AM ENJOYING JUST SITTING HERELISTENING TO MATT AND RAVI
  • 00:22:02.782 --> 00:22:03.983
  • LISTENING TO MATT AND RAVITALK ABOUT THEIR, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:22:03.983 --> 00:22:04.784
  • TALK ABOUT THEIR, YOU KNOW,ALL THE EXCHANGE BACK
  • 00:22:04.784 --> 00:22:05.852
  • ALL THE EXCHANGE BACKAND FORTH, AND HIS BOOK.
  • 00:22:05.852 --> 00:22:07.053
  • AND FORTH, AND HIS BOOK.AND SOMETHING THAT IS
  • 00:22:07.053 --> 00:22:08.421
  • AND SOMETHING THAT ISINTRIGUING FOR ME IS TALKING
  • 00:22:08.421 --> 00:22:09.756
  • INTRIGUING FOR ME IS TALKINGABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION.
  • 00:22:09.756 --> 00:22:11.591
  • ABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION.HOW DO WE INSTILL THIS BOLDNESS
  • 00:22:11.591 --> 00:22:13.459
  • HOW DO WE INSTILL THIS BOLDNESSAND COURAGE IN CHRISTIANS
  • 00:22:13.459 --> 00:22:14.527
  • AND COURAGE IN CHRISTIANSTO LIVE OUT THEIR FAITH?
  • 00:22:14.527 --> 00:22:15.161
  • TO LIVE OUT THEIR FAITH?YOU TALKED ABOUT IT
  • 00:22:15.161 --> 00:22:16.028
  • YOU TALKED ABOUT ITIN YOUR DEVOTION ABOUT,
  • 00:22:16.028 --> 00:22:16.996
  • IN YOUR DEVOTION ABOUT,"DON'T JUST SAY IT,
  • 00:22:16.996 --> 00:22:17.997
  • "DON'T JUST SAY IT,BUT BELIEVE IT,
  • 00:22:17.997 --> 00:22:19.665
  • BUT BELIEVE IT,AND LIVE IT OUT."
  • 00:22:19.665 --> 00:22:20.366
  • AND LIVE IT OUT."RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL,
  • 00:22:20.366 --> 00:22:21.901
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: WELL,I THINK IF THEY DON'T SEE IT
  • 00:22:21.901 --> 00:22:23.035
  • I THINK IF THEY DON'T SEE ITLIVED OUT,
  • 00:22:23.035 --> 00:22:25.071
  • LIVED OUT,THEY SEE THE MESSAGE AS HOLLOW
  • 00:22:25.071 --> 00:22:26.806
  • THEY SEE THE MESSAGE AS HOLLOWAND THEORETICAL.
  • 00:22:26.806 --> 00:22:29.242
  • AND THEORETICAL.PAUL TELLS TIMOTHY TO GUARD
  • 00:22:29.242 --> 00:22:32.245
  • PAUL TELLS TIMOTHY TO GUARDHIS DOCTRINE AND HIS CONDUCT.
  • 00:22:32.245 --> 00:22:33.746
  • HIS DOCTRINE AND HIS CONDUCT.I THINK WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN
  • 00:22:33.746 --> 00:22:36.082
  • I THINK WHAT YOU BELIEVE INYOUR HEART MUST WORK ITSELF OUT
  • 00:22:36.082 --> 00:22:37.383
  • YOUR HEART MUST WORK ITSELF OUTIN THE WAY YOU LIVE.
  • 00:22:37.383 --> 00:22:38.050
  • IN THE WAY YOU LIVE.AND AFTER ALL,
  • 00:22:38.050 --> 00:22:39.051
  • AND AFTER ALL,THE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS THE ONLY
  • 00:22:39.051 --> 00:22:40.286
  • THE CHRISTIAN FAITH IS THE ONLYONE THAT TALKS ABOUT
  • 00:22:40.286 --> 00:22:42.388
  • ONE THAT TALKS ABOUTA SUPERNATURAL REGENERATION;
  • 00:22:42.388 --> 00:22:43.723
  • A SUPERNATURAL REGENERATION;THAT GOD CHANGES THE HEART,
  • 00:22:43.723 --> 00:22:44.724
  • THAT GOD CHANGES THE HEART,GOD DOESN'T JUST CHANGE
  • 00:22:44.724 --> 00:22:45.358
  • GOD DOESN'T JUST CHANGEWHAT YOU DO.
  • 00:22:45.358 --> 00:22:47.794
  • WHAT YOU DO.HE CHANGES WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
  • 00:22:47.794 --> 00:22:49.028
  • HE CHANGES WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.MY FRIENDS FROM INDIA,
  • 00:22:49.028 --> 00:22:50.663
  • MY FRIENDS FROM INDIA,WHEN THEY CONNECT WITH ME NOW,
  • 00:22:50.663 --> 00:22:53.032
  • WHEN THEY CONNECT WITH ME NOW,THEY JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION:
  • 00:22:53.032 --> 00:22:55.134
  • THEY JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION:WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?
  • 00:22:55.134 --> 00:22:55.668
  • WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU?KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH.
  • 00:22:55.668 --> 00:22:56.436
  • KENDAL HAGEE: YEAH.RAVI ZACHARIAS: THAT'S REALLY
  • 00:22:56.436 --> 00:22:56.936
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: THAT'S REALLYWHAT THEY -- LITERALLY,
  • 00:22:56.936 --> 00:22:58.304
  • WHAT THEY -- LITERALLY,I HAD A FRIEND FLY FROM
  • 00:22:58.304 --> 00:23:00.606
  • I HAD A FRIEND FLY FROMWASHINGTON, D.C. TO TORONTO
  • 00:23:00.606 --> 00:23:01.641
  • WASHINGTON, D.C. TO TORONTOTO MEET MY SISTER.
  • 00:23:01.641 --> 00:23:02.775
  • TO MEET MY SISTER.AND HE USED TO LIVE IN DELHI
  • 00:23:02.775 --> 00:23:03.543
  • AND HE USED TO LIVE IN DELHIWITH ME AND PLAYED CRICKET
  • 00:23:03.543 --> 00:23:04.710
  • WITH ME AND PLAYED CRICKETTOGETHER.
  • 00:23:04.710 --> 00:23:06.446
  • TOGETHER.AND HE LOOKED AT MY SISTER AND
  • 00:23:06.446 --> 00:23:08.781
  • AND HE LOOKED AT MY SISTER ANDSAID, "WHAT HAPPENED TO RAVI?"
  • 00:23:08.781 --> 00:23:09.949
  • SAID, "WHAT HAPPENED TO RAVI?"AND YOU KNOW IN MANY WAYS,
  • 00:23:09.949 --> 00:23:11.384
  • AND YOU KNOW IN MANY WAYS,IT'S A KIND OF A COMPLIMENT.
  • 00:23:11.384 --> 00:23:11.984
  • IT'S A KIND OF A COMPLIMENT.MATT HAGEE: IT IS.
  • 00:23:11.984 --> 00:23:12.752
  • MATT HAGEE: IT IS.RAVI ZACHARIAS: BUT IT'S ALSO A
  • 00:23:12.752 --> 00:23:14.854
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: BUT IT'S ALSO ACAUTION THAT THEY'RE WATCHING.
  • 00:23:14.854 --> 00:23:15.455
  • CAUTION THAT THEY'RE WATCHING.MATT HAGEE: WELL NOT ONLY
  • 00:23:15.455 --> 00:23:16.088
  • MATT HAGEE: WELL NOT ONLYARE THEY WATCHING,
  • 00:23:16.088 --> 00:23:17.857
  • ARE THEY WATCHING,BUT YOU KNOW WHEN JESUS WENT TO
  • 00:23:17.857 --> 00:23:18.791
  • BUT YOU KNOW WHEN JESUS WENT TOTHE OTHER SIDE OF THE SEA
  • 00:23:18.791 --> 00:23:19.358
  • THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SEAOF GALILEE,
  • 00:23:19.358 --> 00:23:21.294
  • OF GALILEE,AND HE DELIVERED THE DEMONIAC,
  • 00:23:21.294 --> 00:23:22.428
  • AND HE DELIVERED THE DEMONIAC,THE DEMONIAC WANTED TO COME
  • 00:23:22.428 --> 00:23:22.962
  • THE DEMONIAC WANTED TO COMEWITH HIM.
  • 00:23:22.962 --> 00:23:23.563
  • WITH HIM.HE SAID,
  • 00:23:23.563 --> 00:23:24.263
  • HE SAID,"LET ME BACK IN THE BOAT."
  • 00:23:24.263 --> 00:23:25.765
  • "LET ME BACK IN THE BOAT."AND JESUS SAID, NO, NO, NO.
  • 00:23:25.765 --> 00:23:27.800
  • AND JESUS SAID, NO, NO, NO."STAY HERE AND TELL EVERYBODY
  • 00:23:27.800 --> 00:23:29.001
  • "STAY HERE AND TELL EVERYBODYWHAT I'VE DONE."
  • 00:23:29.001 --> 00:23:31.471
  • WHAT I'VE DONE."AND YOU KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING
  • 00:23:31.471 --> 00:23:32.472
  • AND YOU KNOW THAT IS SOMETHINGTHAT I THINK A LOT
  • 00:23:32.472 --> 00:23:34.874
  • THAT I THINK A LOTOF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS AVOID.
  • 00:23:34.874 --> 00:23:37.844
  • OF AMERICAN CHRISTIANS AVOID.WHENEVER THEY HAVE A REAL
  • 00:23:37.844 --> 00:23:39.011
  • WHENEVER THEY HAVE A REALENCOUNTER WITH JESUS CHRIST,
  • 00:23:39.011 --> 00:23:40.246
  • ENCOUNTER WITH JESUS CHRIST,RATHER THAN GO INTO
  • 00:23:40.246 --> 00:23:42.248
  • RATHER THAN GO INTOTHE ENVIRONMENT CHANGED,
  • 00:23:42.248 --> 00:23:43.850
  • THE ENVIRONMENT CHANGED,THEY FLEE THE ENVIRONMENT
  • 00:23:43.850 --> 00:23:44.951
  • THEY FLEE THE ENVIRONMENTAND KIND OF GO INTO WITNESS
  • 00:23:44.951 --> 00:23:46.552
  • AND KIND OF GO INTO WITNESSPROTECTION, IF YOU WOULD;
  • 00:23:46.552 --> 00:23:47.520
  • PROTECTION, IF YOU WOULD;YOU KNOW TO WHERE THE PEOPLE
  • 00:23:47.520 --> 00:23:48.421
  • YOU KNOW TO WHERE THE PEOPLETHAT THEY USED TO BE
  • 00:23:48.421 --> 00:23:49.789
  • THAT THEY USED TO BEIN THE WORLD WITH NO LONGER
  • 00:23:49.789 --> 00:23:50.756
  • IN THE WORLD WITH NO LONGERHAVE AN AWARENESS OF WHO
  • 00:23:50.756 --> 00:23:52.225
  • HAVE AN AWARENESS OF WHOTHEY ARE.
  • 00:23:52.225 --> 00:23:53.693
  • THEY ARE.AND SO, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:23:53.693 --> 00:23:55.628
  • AND SO, YOU KNOW,IT IS A COMPLIMENT, AS YOU SAY.
  • 00:23:55.628 --> 00:23:58.965
  • IT IS A COMPLIMENT, AS YOU SAY.AND WHEN IT COMES TO LIVING OUT
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  • AND WHEN IT COMES TO LIVING OUTYOUR FAITH, I KNOW IN MY LIFE,
  • 00:24:01.901 --> 00:24:03.669
  • YOUR FAITH, I KNOW IN MY LIFE,A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE ASSUMED
  • 00:24:03.669 --> 00:24:05.371
  • A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE ASSUMEDTHAT IN MY CHILDHOOD, YOU KNOW,
  • 00:24:05.371 --> 00:24:06.606
  • THAT IN MY CHILDHOOD, YOU KNOW,I WOULD HAVE AT ONE POINT
  • 00:24:06.606 --> 00:24:07.173
  • I WOULD HAVE AT ONE POINTOR ANOTHER,
  • 00:24:07.173 --> 00:24:08.040
  • OR ANOTHER,BEEN THE REBELLIOUS
  • 00:24:08.040 --> 00:24:09.675
  • BEEN THE REBELLIOUSPASTOR'S KID.
  • 00:24:09.675 --> 00:24:10.710
  • PASTOR'S KID.AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY
  • 00:24:10.710 --> 00:24:11.644
  • AND I CAN HONESTLY SAYTHAT THAT WAS NEVER ANYTHING
  • 00:24:11.644 --> 00:24:12.945
  • THAT THAT WAS NEVER ANYTHINGTHAT EVER ENTERED MY MIND,
  • 00:24:12.945 --> 00:24:14.213
  • THAT EVER ENTERED MY MIND,ONLY FOR THE FACT
  • 00:24:14.213 --> 00:24:16.215
  • ONLY FOR THE FACTTHAT MY FATHER DID TWO THINGS
  • 00:24:16.215 --> 00:24:16.749
  • THAT MY FATHER DID TWO THINGSVERY WELL.
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  • VERY WELL.ONE,
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  • ONE,HE PUT HIS FAMILY
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  • HE PUT HIS FAMILYBEFORE HIS CHURCH.
  • 00:24:20.620 --> 00:24:22.455
  • BEFORE HIS CHURCH.SO THE CHURCH WAS AN EXTENSION
  • 00:24:22.455 --> 00:24:23.189
  • SO THE CHURCH WAS AN EXTENSIONOF US;
  • 00:24:23.189 --> 00:24:25.558
  • OF US;IT WASN'T A REPLACEMENT TO US.
  • 00:24:25.558 --> 00:24:26.425
  • IT WASN'T A REPLACEMENT TO US.AND I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT WITH
  • 00:24:26.425 --> 00:24:28.194
  • AND I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT WITHPASTOR'S KIDS THAT THAT'S BEEN
  • 00:24:28.194 --> 00:24:30.530
  • PASTOR'S KIDS THAT THAT'S BEENTHE SOURCE OF CONTENTION THERE.
  • 00:24:30.530 --> 00:24:32.131
  • THE SOURCE OF CONTENTION THERE.THE OTHER THING WAS EVERYTHING
  • 00:24:32.131 --> 00:24:34.033
  • THE OTHER THING WAS EVERYTHINGTHAT HE SAID IN THE PULPIT,
  • 00:24:34.033 --> 00:24:35.735
  • THAT HE SAID IN THE PULPIT,HE DID AT HOME.
  • 00:24:35.735 --> 00:24:37.737
  • HE DID AT HOME.SO WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT PRAYER,
  • 00:24:37.737 --> 00:24:38.938
  • SO WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT PRAYER,WE SAW HIM PRAY.
  • 00:24:38.938 --> 00:24:40.172
  • WE SAW HIM PRAY.WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT READING,
  • 00:24:40.172 --> 00:24:41.173
  • WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT READING,WE SAW HIM READ.
  • 00:24:41.173 --> 00:24:42.341
  • WE SAW HIM READ.WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT GIVING,
  • 00:24:42.341 --> 00:24:43.843
  • WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT GIVING,WE WERE ABLE TO SEE
  • 00:24:43.843 --> 00:24:45.778
  • WE WERE ABLE TO SEEAND UNDERSTAND THE APPLICATION
  • 00:24:45.778 --> 00:24:47.246
  • AND UNDERSTAND THE APPLICATIONOF THESE THINGS IN HIS LIFE.
  • 00:24:47.246 --> 00:24:47.747
  • OF THESE THINGS IN HIS LIFE.IT WASN'T,
  • 00:24:47.747 --> 00:24:48.981
  • IT WASN'T,OH WELL THAT'S SUNDAY, DAD,
  • 00:24:48.981 --> 00:24:50.616
  • OH WELL THAT'S SUNDAY, DAD,AND THIS IS MONDAY, DAD.
  • 00:24:50.616 --> 00:24:51.651
  • AND THIS IS MONDAY, DAD.HE WAS THE CONSISTENT
  • 00:24:51.651 --> 00:24:53.686
  • HE WAS THE CONSISTENTINDIVIDUAL EVERY TIME YOU EVER
  • 00:24:53.686 --> 00:24:54.820
  • INDIVIDUAL EVERY TIME YOU EVERWERE AROUND HIM.
  • 00:24:54.820 --> 00:24:56.289
  • WERE AROUND HIM.AND SO GROWING UP IN THAT
  • 00:24:56.289 --> 00:24:57.657
  • AND SO GROWING UP IN THATENVIRONMENT,
  • 00:24:57.657 --> 00:24:59.458
  • ENVIRONMENT,IT WAS VERY EASY AND LOGICAL
  • 00:24:59.458 --> 00:25:01.294
  • IT WAS VERY EASY AND LOGICALFOR ME TO CONNECT HIS BEHAVIORS
  • 00:25:01.294 --> 00:25:02.261
  • FOR ME TO CONNECT HIS BEHAVIORSWITH HIS BELIEFS,
  • 00:25:02.261 --> 00:25:02.962
  • WITH HIS BELIEFS,AND HIS BELIEFS
  • 00:25:02.962 --> 00:25:04.363
  • AND HIS BELIEFSWITH HIS OUTCOMES,
  • 00:25:04.363 --> 00:25:05.631
  • WITH HIS OUTCOMES,AS OPPOSED TO STRUGGLE WITH,
  • 00:25:05.631 --> 00:25:06.699
  • AS OPPOSED TO STRUGGLE WITH,WELL IF DAD SAYS IT,
  • 00:25:06.699 --> 00:25:08.100
  • WELL IF DAD SAYS IT,WHY DOESN'T HE DO IT?
  • 00:25:08.100 --> 00:25:09.569
  • WHY DOESN'T HE DO IT?AND I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT
  • 00:25:09.569 --> 00:25:11.971
  • AND I THINK THAT THAT'S NOTJUST AN ISSUE FOR PASTORS
  • 00:25:11.971 --> 00:25:12.672
  • JUST AN ISSUE FOR PASTORSAND THEIR FAMILIES;
  • 00:25:12.672 --> 00:25:13.839
  • AND THEIR FAMILIES;IT'S AN ISSUE FOR EVERYONE
  • 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:15.374
  • IT'S AN ISSUE FOR EVERYONEWHO CALLS THE NAME OF CHRIST
  • 00:25:15.374 --> 00:25:17.176
  • WHO CALLS THE NAME OF CHRISTAS THEIR SAVIOR.
  • 00:25:17.176 --> 00:25:18.077
  • AS THEIR SAVIOR.RAVI ZACHARIAS: THAT'S
  • 00:25:18.077 --> 00:25:19.545
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: THAT'SAN AMAZING TESTIMONIAL,
  • 00:25:19.545 --> 00:25:21.047
  • AN AMAZING TESTIMONIAL,ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
  • 00:25:21.047 --> 00:25:23.616
  • ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.I HOPE SOME DAY AFTER I'M GONE,
  • 00:25:23.616 --> 00:25:25.484
  • I HOPE SOME DAY AFTER I'M GONE,MY KIDS CAN SAY THE SAME.
  • 00:25:25.484 --> 00:25:28.487
  • MY KIDS CAN SAY THE SAME.I WISH I WERE AS CONSISTENT
  • 00:25:28.487 --> 00:25:29.755
  • I WISH I WERE AS CONSISTENTAS THE WAY YOU HAVE DESCRIBED
  • 00:25:29.755 --> 00:25:30.356
  • AS THE WAY YOU HAVE DESCRIBEDYOUR DAD.
  • 00:25:30.356 --> 00:25:31.123
  • YOUR DAD.GOD BLESS YOU.
  • 00:25:31.123 --> 00:25:32.058
  • GOD BLESS YOU.AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES
  • 00:25:32.058 --> 00:25:32.692
  • AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOESIN THE CHURCH.
  • 00:25:32.692 --> 00:25:34.594
  • IN THE CHURCH.HE BOTH TEACHES AND MODELS
  • 00:25:34.594 --> 00:25:35.695
  • HE BOTH TEACHES AND MODELSIN WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE
  • 00:25:35.695 --> 00:25:36.862
  • IN WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONEGLOBALLY.
  • 00:25:36.862 --> 00:25:38.064
  • GLOBALLY.I THINK THE FACT IS,
  • 00:25:38.064 --> 00:25:39.198
  • I THINK THE FACT IS,AS AN ITINERANT,
  • 00:25:39.198 --> 00:25:40.733
  • AS AN ITINERANT,IT'S ALWAYS HARDER,
  • 00:25:40.733 --> 00:25:41.667
  • IT'S ALWAYS HARDER,BECAUSE YOU'RE SO MUCH
  • 00:25:41.667 --> 00:25:42.902
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE SO MUCHON THE ROAD.
  • 00:25:42.902 --> 00:25:45.271
  • ON THE ROAD.BUT THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE.
  • 00:25:45.271 --> 00:25:46.205
  • BUT THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE.YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE
  • 00:25:46.205 --> 00:25:48.240
  • YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVETHE PRIORITY OF YOUR FAMILY.
  • 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:49.942
  • THE PRIORITY OF YOUR FAMILY.AND I THINK WHERE OUR CULTURE
  • 00:25:49.942 --> 00:25:51.310
  • AND I THINK WHERE OUR CULTUREHAS FAILED,
  • 00:25:51.310 --> 00:25:53.579
  • HAS FAILED,WE FIND ALL THE OTHER EXCUSES
  • 00:25:53.579 --> 00:25:54.847
  • WE FIND ALL THE OTHER EXCUSESTO ATTRIBUTE TO WHAT'S GONE
  • 00:25:54.847 --> 00:25:55.581
  • TO ATTRIBUTE TO WHAT'S GONEWRONG.
  • 00:25:55.581 --> 00:25:56.816
  • WRONG.WE DON'T GO BACK TO THE SOURCE
  • 00:25:56.816 --> 00:25:58.084
  • WE DON'T GO BACK TO THE SOURCEOF THE PROBLEM,
  • 00:25:58.084 --> 00:25:59.151
  • OF THE PROBLEM,YOUR WHOLE,
  • 00:25:59.151 --> 00:26:00.052
  • YOUR WHOLE,AND HOW IT IS YOU'RE BEING
  • 00:26:00.052 --> 00:26:01.721
  • AND HOW IT IS YOU'RE BEINGRAISED WITH THE VALUES AND HOW
  • 00:26:01.721 --> 00:26:03.489
  • RAISED WITH THE VALUES AND HOWIT'S BEING DEMONSTRATED.
  • 00:26:03.489 --> 00:26:04.457
  • IT'S BEING DEMONSTRATED.AFTER ALL,
  • 00:26:04.457 --> 00:26:06.125
  • AFTER ALL,OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR GREATEST
  • 00:26:06.125 --> 00:26:07.193
  • OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR GREATESTGIFT FROM GOD.
  • 00:26:07.193 --> 00:26:08.394
  • GIFT FROM GOD.I TRAVEL ALL OVER THE GLOBE.
  • 00:26:08.394 --> 00:26:09.862
  • I TRAVEL ALL OVER THE GLOBE.WHEN I COME BACK HOME,
  • 00:26:09.862 --> 00:26:11.430
  • WHEN I COME BACK HOME,THE HUGS I GET FROM MY FAMILY
  • 00:26:11.430 --> 00:26:13.833
  • THE HUGS I GET FROM MY FAMILYARE THE MOST MEANINGFUL ONES.
  • 00:26:13.833 --> 00:26:16.235
  • ARE THE MOST MEANINGFUL ONES.IT IS OUR CALLING TO RAISE --
  • 00:26:16.235 --> 00:26:17.570
  • IT IS OUR CALLING TO RAISE --GOD FORMED THE HOME BEFORE ME
  • 00:26:17.570 --> 00:26:18.437
  • GOD FORMED THE HOME BEFORE MEFORMED THE CHURCH.
  • 00:26:18.437 --> 00:26:19.105
  • FORMED THE CHURCH.MATT HAGEE: CORRECT.
  • 00:26:19.105 --> 00:26:19.872
  • MATT HAGEE: CORRECT.RAVI ZACHARIAS: SO WE HAVE
  • 00:26:19.872 --> 00:26:21.774
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: SO WE HAVETHAT NOBLE CALLING TO MODEL IT
  • 00:26:21.774 --> 00:26:22.875
  • THAT NOBLE CALLING TO MODEL ITBEFORE OUR KIDS
  • 00:26:22.875 --> 00:26:24.076
  • BEFORE OUR KIDSAND TO TEACH THEM.
  • 00:26:24.076 --> 00:26:24.777
  • AND TO TEACH THEM.MATT HAGEE: AND TO TEACH THEM.
  • 00:26:24.777 --> 00:26:25.778
  • MATT HAGEE: AND TO TEACH THEM.AND TO THAT EXTENT,
  • 00:26:25.778 --> 00:26:29.782
  • AND TO THAT EXTENT,I THINK THAT IN EVERY HOME,
  • 00:26:29.782 --> 00:26:30.850
  • I THINK THAT IN EVERY HOME,EVERY PARENT HAS
  • 00:26:30.850 --> 00:26:32.385
  • EVERY PARENT HASA RESPONSIBILITY TO OPERATE
  • 00:26:32.385 --> 00:26:34.020
  • A RESPONSIBILITY TO OPERATEAS AN APOLOGIST.
  • 00:26:34.020 --> 00:26:35.354
  • AS AN APOLOGIST.THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY
  • 00:26:35.354 --> 00:26:37.657
  • THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITYTO ENGAGE IN THE ARGUMENT,
  • 00:26:37.657 --> 00:26:38.891
  • TO ENGAGE IN THE ARGUMENT,AND THEN MAKE THE APPLICATION,
  • 00:26:38.891 --> 00:26:40.159
  • AND THEN MAKE THE APPLICATION,AND THEN DEMONSTRATE IT IN
  • 00:26:40.159 --> 00:26:41.494
  • AND THEN DEMONSTRATE IT INA WAY THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAVE
  • 00:26:41.494 --> 00:26:42.962
  • A WAY THAT THEIR CHILDREN HAVETHE ABILITY TO SEE IT
  • 00:26:42.962 --> 00:26:43.529
  • THE ABILITY TO SEE ITAND TO DO IT.
  • 00:26:43.529 --> 00:26:44.030
  • AND TO DO IT.RAVI,
  • 00:26:44.030 --> 00:26:45.031
  • RAVI,THANK YOU FOR GIVING --
  • 00:26:45.031 --> 00:26:45.731
  • THANK YOU FOR GIVING --RAVI ZACHARIAS: GOD BLESS YOU,
  • 00:26:45.731 --> 00:26:46.866
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: GOD BLESS YOU,MATT. GOD BLESS YOU, KENDAL.
  • 00:26:46.866 --> 00:26:47.566
  • MATT. GOD BLESS YOU, KENDAL.KENDAL HAGEE: THANK YOU.
  • 00:26:47.566 --> 00:26:48.267
  • KENDAL HAGEE: THANK YOU.MATT HAGEE: -- THE
  • 00:26:48.267 --> 00:26:49.168
  • MATT HAGEE: -- THEENCOURAGEMENT AND THE EXAMPLE
  • 00:26:49.168 --> 00:26:51.103
  • ENCOURAGEMENT AND THE EXAMPLETO DO THE WILL OF GOD WITH
  • 00:26:51.103 --> 00:26:52.738
  • TO DO THE WILL OF GOD WITHEVERY BREATH THAT THEY BREATHE.
  • 00:26:52.738 --> 00:26:53.973
  • EVERY BREATH THAT THEY BREATHE.IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE
  • 00:26:53.973 --> 00:26:54.707
  • IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HEREON "THE DIFFERENCE" WITH US
  • 00:26:54.707 --> 00:26:55.074
  • ON "THE DIFFERENCE" WITH USTODAY.
  • 00:26:55.074 --> 00:26:55.841
  • TODAY.RAVI ZACHARIAS: AN ABSOLUTE
  • 00:26:55.841 --> 00:26:56.609
  • RAVI ZACHARIAS: AN ABSOLUTEDELIGHT TO BE WITH YOU BOTH.
  • 00:26:56.609 --> 00:26:57.243
  • DELIGHT TO BE WITH YOU BOTH.THANK YOU.
  • 00:26:57.243 --> 00:26:57.943
  • THANK YOU.MATT HAGEE: THANK YOU.
  • 00:26:57.943 --> 00:26:58.944
  • MATT HAGEE: THANK YOU.KENDAL AND I HOPE THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:26:58.944 --> 00:27:00.046
  • KENDAL AND I HOPE THAT YOU'VEENJOYED THIS PROGRAM.
  • 00:27:00.046 --> 00:27:01.347
  • ENJOYED THIS PROGRAM.AND WE WANT YOU TO GO FIND OUT
  • 00:27:01.347 --> 00:27:02.882
  • AND WE WANT YOU TO GO FIND OUTMORE ABOUT RAVI ZACHARIAS,
  • 00:27:02.882 --> 00:27:04.083
  • MORE ABOUT RAVI ZACHARIAS,HIS MINISTRY,
  • 00:27:04.083 --> 00:27:06.018
  • HIS MINISTRY,AND HOW YOU CAN ENGAGE WITH
  • 00:27:06.018 --> 00:27:07.119
  • AND HOW YOU CAN ENGAGE WITHTHE CONTENT THAT HIS MINISTRY
  • 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:07.787
  • THE CONTENT THAT HIS MINISTRYHAS PROVIDED.
  • 00:27:07.787 --> 00:27:09.055
  • HAS PROVIDED.I KNOW THAT "THE LOGIC OF GOD"
  • 00:27:09.055 --> 00:27:10.022
  • I KNOW THAT "THE LOGIC OF GOD"IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE
  • 00:27:10.022 --> 00:27:10.656
  • IS SOMETHING THAT WE AREDISCUSSING AROUND
  • 00:27:10.656 --> 00:27:11.791
  • DISCUSSING AROUNDMY DINNER TABLE,
  • 00:27:11.791 --> 00:27:12.725
  • MY DINNER TABLE,AS WE TALK ABOUT TRUTH
  • 00:27:12.725 --> 00:27:13.826
  • AS WE TALK ABOUT TRUTHWITH MY CHILDREN.
  • 00:27:13.826 --> 00:27:14.794
  • WITH MY CHILDREN.AND I WANT YOU TO DO THE SAME,
  • 00:27:14.794 --> 00:27:15.728
  • AND I WANT YOU TO DO THE SAME,BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU;
  • 00:27:15.728 --> 00:27:16.862
  • BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU;IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE
  • 00:27:16.862 --> 00:27:18.064
  • IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCEIN YOUR LIFE.
  • 00:27:18.064 --> 00:27:29.010