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February 16, 2016
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Matt & Laurie Crouch host “The Neighborhood” with Pastor Brian Brodersen, Riley Taylor, Pastor Jose Hernandez, Pastor David Trujillo, Pastor Tommy Cota, Pastor David Zamora

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  • - male announcer: From coast
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  • to coast, and around the world,
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  • it's time to praise the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • let every nation rejoice!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • - announcer: Welcome
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  • to "Praise the Lord."
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  • Joining us tonight for
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  • a special presentation
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  • of "The Neighborhood."
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  • - Jose Hernandez: I don't ever
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  • remember as a child ever someone
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  • saying, "Look, there is hope."
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  • And because of it,
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  • because I lived without any
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • let every nation rejoice!
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  • Praise the Lord
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  • with one mighty voice!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • Praise the Lord!
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  • Praise...
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  • - announcer: Now your hosts,
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • - Matt Crouch: I love it.
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  • Guess what?
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  • - Laurie Crouch: Wow.
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  • - Matt: Calvary Chapel's in
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  • the house.
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  • - Laurie: Wow.
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  • Calvary Chapel's from all over
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  • the area, Southern California
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  • right here in the audience.
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  • - Matt: They are in the house
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  • and guess what?
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  • Tonight is all about Jesus.
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  • Anybody in this audience
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  • tonight, kind of wave your hand
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  • and kind of wave to the people
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  • that are viewing around
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  • the world.
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  • Any of you had your lives
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  • changed by Jesus?
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  • C'mon, now.
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  • And that's what tonight
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  • is about.
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  • We're gonna be debuting
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  • the film, "The Neighborhood."
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  • Pastor Brian Brodersen,
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  • you're kind of the guy here.
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  • C'mon, Calvary Chapel,
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  • Pastor Brian.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Tell our audience
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  • tonight, kinda, and those
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  • viewing at home, what--how do
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  • we--how do you want us to
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  • prepare for what we're
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  • about to see?
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  • In just a minute or two we're
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  • gonna debut the film,
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  • "The Neighborhood," and so just,
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  • kinda, get everybody ready.
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  • - Brian Brodersen: Yeah, well,
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  • was born--as a pastor you have
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  • hundreds of conversations with
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  • people and so many times I've
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  • and I've thought, "Man, somebody
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  • ought to make a movie
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  • out of this person's life."
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  • So over the years, I got to know
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  • these guys and, you know, they'd
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  • tell me their stories and--
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  • a little bit at a time.
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  • And the more and more I heard
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  • the stories, I thought, "Okay,
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  • somebody's gotta make a film."
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  • And one day I just thought,
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  • "You know what?
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  • I'm not gonna wait for somebody
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  • else to do it.
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  • I'm gonna do it and make a film
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  • about these guys' life story."
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  • And it's a story of redemption.
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  • And it's, you know,
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  • there's a backdrop to it.
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  • There's violence and gangs
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  • and drugs and all that.
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  • But that's just part of it.
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  • And I think the story is really
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  • kind of story of probably every
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  • family in the United States
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  • has been touched in some way or
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  • another by the same kinds of
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  • things that these guys were
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  • impacted by negatively that
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  • drove them ultimately, you know,
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  • to the lifestyles that they had.
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  • So I, you know, for those that
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  • are tuning in tonight,
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  • If you're got anybody in your
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  • family that's messed up, which I
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  • guarantee you do, then just get
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  • on the phone right now, call 'em
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  • up, and say, "You need to watch
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  • this film," because it, you
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  • know, again, it's very broad.
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  • It just--it deals with the issue
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  • and the destructiveness of
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  • it and what God has done
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  • to remedy that.
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  • - Matt: Well, one thing I wanna
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  • point out and, first of all,
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  • Riley Taylor, you produced,
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  • directed, the film.
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  • I'm gonna get to you
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  • in a second.
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  • But I wanna comment about
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  • something you just said.
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  • You said that, you know, if you
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  • have somebody in your family
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  • that's messed up.
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  • Ha, ha, ha, ha!
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  • Ha, ha.
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  • Ha, ha, ha!
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  • And I didn't appreciate the fact
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  • that you glanced at me right as
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  • you said that.
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  • So okay, Riley, you got thrown
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  • into the mix of starting to tell
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  • the story.
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  • So how did you approach this,
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  • what was your--what was in your
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  • - Riley Taylor: Well, Brian
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  • approached me a couple years
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  • ago, asked me if I wanted to
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  • tell this story.
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  • And right as I was doing the
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  • research on it, getting to know
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  • these guys just by listening to
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  • their testimonies on YouTube and
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  • stuff, and I was, like, "You
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  • an example of what God can do."
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  • And as you guys are watching it,
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  • I want you to pay attention to
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  • one line.
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  • And I don't wanna give it away
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  • but, at the end of the film,
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  • there's a line that says, "What
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  • the enemy intended for evil, God
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  • has turned it all around for his
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  • good."
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  • And that's a--yeah.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • Yeah.
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  • And so, and you know, that's
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  • straight from the Bible.
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  • That's Genesis chapter 50.
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  • And really, God--Jesus is the
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  • main character of the story.
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  • He's the one who saves the day.
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  • He's the hero in our film.
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  • And you know, every film
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  • has a hero.
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  • And in ours, it's Jesus.
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  • - Laurie: Ours never fails.
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  • - Matt: Beautiful.
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  • Wow.
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  • I want to put on the screen just
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  • the information is on the screen
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  • for where you can go if you're
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  • watching tonight.
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  • In just a minute, we're gonna be
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  • kind of world premiering the
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  • film here on television, giving
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  • it its television world
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  • premiere, "The Neighborhood."
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  • And the idea that this film
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  • certainly is coming to you
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  • free of charge.
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  • It's gonna be on the air here in
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  • a second.
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  • But everyone will know someone
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  • that needs to be impacted.
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  • And I'm so proud of what
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  • this night is.
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  • Tonight is really about
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  • changed lives.
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  • And it's about documenting it in
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  • a way.
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  • And certainly we could have had
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  • these pastors up and, after the
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  • film, you're gonna get to meet
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  • the guys but, you know, a
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  • picture's worth 1.000 words so
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  • tonight is, you know, just kind
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  • of the perfect night here at
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  • TBN.
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  • There's counselors available
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  • questions about your faith,
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  • your sincerity.
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  • Pastor Brian, you know, you kind
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  • of started this whole thing.
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  • So what story tripped this?
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  • What was the very beginning of
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  • this?
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  • - Brian: Yeah, I think the
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  • beginning story was when I met
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  • And David, you know, was a young
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  • guy.
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  • He started coming to a Bible
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  • study that I was doing.
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  • I found out that he was just
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  • getting started pastoring
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  • a church or doing a Bible study
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  • transition into pastoring
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  • a church.
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  • And then just slowly, as we got
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  • to know each other, I got to
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  • know a little bit about his
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  • background, you know, and every
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  • time you tell me
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  • I'm just, you know, I mean, I
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  • got saved myself so I know what
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  • it's--I know a little bit what
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  • it's like, you know, to come out
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  • of darkness into light.
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  • But, you know, his story
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  • just--it just so impressed me
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  • how God had so radically
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  • transformed him.
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  • And one of the things that I
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  • emphasize in the film, you know,
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  • our culture and I'll tell you,
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  • one of the greatest responses to
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  • atheism is this kind of stuff
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  • right here because these guys
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  • are living proof that there's
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  • a God because there's no human
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  • explanation for
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  • the transformation in the lives
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  • of these guys.
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  • You know, they could have gone
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  • on just the way they were, doing
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  • their thing.
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  • They were happy in prison, they
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  • were happy, you know, drug
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  • dealing.
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  • They were happy doing all that.
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  • I mean, not really but, you
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  • know, they could have just kept
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  • on with that life.
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  • But God arrested them and, to
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  • me, transformed lives, you know,
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  • they talk about science, you
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  • know, you're talking about
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  • empirical evidence.
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  • I think the Christian faith's
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  • got more empirical evidence than
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  • anything practically.
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  • Millions and millions of changed
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  • lives.
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  • - Laurie: You know what's so
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  • great about tonight, is that TBN
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  • airs in half of the prisons
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  • across America with our Second
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  • Chance Ministries.
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  • So pray for your loved ones that
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  • are incarcerated even tonight.
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  • These are some amazing
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  • testimonies.
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  • - Matt: We're producing this
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  • program from Southern California
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  • and TBN has access to every
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  • prison facility in the state of
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  • California.
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  • This broadcast is airing in half
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  • of the prisons in
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  • the United States of America
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  • and many around the world.
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  • And so I think we need to pause
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  • just a little bit.
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  • "The Neighborhood" film is about
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  • Jesus changing lives.
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  • And you're gonna get to meet the
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  • guys after the film.
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  • And I just wanna give a shout
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  • out.
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  • Those in the studio that are
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  • here, first of all, Calvary
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  • Chapel Night, Pastor Hernandez,
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  • Zamora, Cota, and Trujillo.
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  • Give them a great hand.
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  • These guys are here in the
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  • studio.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • They're over there,
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  • sitting in the dark.
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  • And Riley, kind of final
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  • thoughts before the movie plays
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  • here.
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  • Just kind of your final thoughts
  • 00:09:22.180 --> 00:09:23.100
  • before the audience sees.
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  • I know movies are hard to do and
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  • so, thank you for what you've
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  • done.
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  • You've done a great job with it.
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  • - Riley: Well, I'd say prepare
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  • your heart.
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  • I'd say get ready.
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  • I think that you can't help
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  • So be aware of what God is
  • 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.220
  • saying to you through the film.
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  • Be aware of what Jesus
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  • might want you to do tonight
  • 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:50.110
  • after you watch it.
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  • - Matt: And Pastor Brian, just
  • 00:09:51.230 --> 00:09:53.110
  • kind of your final thoughts
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  • before we head into the movie?
  • 00:09:54.190 --> 00:09:56.060
  • - Brian: Yeah, you know, like
  • 00:09:56.060 --> 00:09:56.270
  • I said initially, you know,
  • 00:09:56.270 --> 00:09:58.070
  • whether it's divorce or
  • 00:09:58.070 --> 00:10:00.110
  • alcoholism or drugs or abuse or
  • 00:10:00.150 --> 00:10:03.150
  • neglect or, you know, those are
  • 00:10:03.150 --> 00:10:05.150
  • all of the things that are
  • 00:10:05.150 --> 00:10:06.250
  • wrapped up in this film.
  • 00:10:06.250 --> 00:10:08.060
  • It's kind of just this--it's
  • 00:10:08.060 --> 00:10:09.120
  • the story of life.
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  • It's the story of fallen sinful
  • 00:10:10.140 --> 00:10:11.290
  • men and--but it's the bigger
  • 00:10:11.290 --> 00:10:14.000
  • story and the greater story of
  • 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.000
  • God's redemption.
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  • So just be open tonight.
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  • You know, maybe you've never
  • 00:10:18.070 --> 00:10:19.030
  • Maybe you've never thought there
  • 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.090
  • was any way out of the trap
  • 00:10:22.090 --> 00:10:23.250
  • that you're in.
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  • There is a way out.
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  • And you're gonna
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  • - Matt: Beautiful.
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  • You know, "The Neighborhood"
  • 00:10:29.210 --> 00:10:31.100
  • is a movie that celebrates
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  • the life of Pastor Hernandez.
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  • It celebrates the change of
  • 00:10:36.030 --> 00:10:38.120
  • Pastor David Zamora.
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  • It celebrates the change of
  • 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:41.180
  • Pastor Tommy Cota, and it
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  • celebrates the change of
  • 00:10:43.260 --> 00:10:45.090
  • Pastor David Trujillo.
  • 00:10:45.090 --> 00:10:47.000
  • But what it really does is it
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  • celebrates Jesus who did and is
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  • the star of the film.
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  • You know what, let's give
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  • a great applause as we go into
  • 00:10:53.070 --> 00:10:56.070
  • right here, right now, the world
  • 00:10:56.070 --> 00:10:58.070
  • premiere of the movie,
  • 00:10:58.070 --> 00:10:59.240
  • - male: When I was young, I
  • 00:11:06.280 --> 00:11:08.160
  • remembered praying,
  • 00:11:09.110 --> 00:11:12.110
  • "God, when I get older,
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  • I might do some bad things.
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  • Boom, boom, ba-da-dah.
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  • If you ever see
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  • the boy for me,
  • 00:11:43.170 --> 00:11:46.170
  • tell him that I love him.
  • 00:11:48.070 --> 00:11:51.070
  • Tell him that I care.
  • 00:11:53.110 --> 00:11:56.110
  • If he ever needs me,
  • 00:11:57.260 --> 00:12:00.280
  • tell him I'll be there.
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  • It happened
  • 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:07.110
  • the other night.
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  • We argued
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  • but we didn't fight.
  • 00:12:13.050 --> 00:12:16.050
  • He grabbed his bag
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  • and slammed the door.
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  • And he hasn't been a-back,
  • 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:22.000
  • no more.
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  • If an' how you can
  • 00:12:28.150 --> 00:12:31.150
  • see my man,
  • 00:12:31.150 --> 00:12:33.080
  • tell him that I need him.
  • 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.240
  • Tell him he was right.
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  • Tell him that I miss him,
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  • ooh, each and every night.
  • 00:12:50.210 --> 00:12:53.210
  • I didn't mean a word I said.
  • 00:12:55.030 --> 00:12:58.030
  • Tell him I was wrong.
  • 00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:03.090
  • And yes,
  • 00:13:03.090 --> 00:13:04.190
  • sincerely written,
  • 00:13:04.190 --> 00:13:07.040
  • tell him to come back
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  • where he belongs.
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  • If you ever find
  • 00:13:14.290 --> 00:13:16.230
  • that love of mine,
  • 00:13:16.290 --> 00:13:19.290
  • tell him to forgive me.
  • 00:13:22.180 --> 00:13:25.180
  • - Tommy: My earliest memories
  • 00:13:31.270 --> 00:13:33.020
  • as a kid was that there was
  • 00:13:33.040 --> 00:13:36.040
  • always alcohol around and,
  • 00:13:36.040 --> 00:13:38.260
  • you know, there was really
  • 00:13:38.260 --> 00:13:39.260
  • no church, no God, no--there
  • 00:13:41.110 --> 00:13:44.110
  • was none of that, you know.
  • 00:13:44.110 --> 00:13:45.200
  • It was just basically a lot of
  • 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:46.260
  • alcohol, party life, or
  • 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:47.270
  • whatever.
  • 00:13:47.270 --> 00:13:49.110
  • A lot of yelling and arguing.
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  • I do remember that.
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  • - David Zamora: It would be
  • 00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:54.290
  • normal family setting one
  • 00:13:54.290 --> 00:13:56.200
  • evening and then, before you
  • 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:59.160
  • know it, you know, raise their
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  • voices and it'd be a big
  • 00:14:02.070 --> 00:14:03.160
  • argument, big fight.
  • 00:14:03.160 --> 00:14:04.290
  • I mean, it was physical, it was
  • 00:14:04.290 --> 00:14:06.180
  • verbal, physical, it wasn't a
  • 00:14:06.180 --> 00:14:08.020
  • good environment for any child.
  • 00:14:08.020 --> 00:14:11.020
  • - Jose Hernandez: One night,
  • 00:14:22.090 --> 00:14:23.130
  • you know, we got awakened to
  • 00:14:23.290 --> 00:14:26.290
  • the crying and screaming and
  • 00:14:26.290 --> 00:14:29.070
  • just the chaos and my dad
  • 00:14:29.070 --> 00:14:30.250
  • was beating my mom and he
  • 00:14:30.250 --> 00:14:33.010
  • was physically dragging her
  • 00:14:33.010 --> 00:14:34.140
  • out of the house by the hair.
  • 00:14:35.220 --> 00:14:38.220
  • And so I remember the, you know,
  • 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.080
  • feeling anger and feeling fear
  • 00:14:42.280 --> 00:14:45.280
  • at the same time.
  • 00:14:45.280 --> 00:14:47.100
  • And I remember being frozen with
  • 00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:48.210
  • this fear, you know, that I
  • 00:14:48.210 --> 00:14:50.180
  • wanted to do something so bad
  • 00:14:50.180 --> 00:14:52.210
  • - David Trujillo: All this
  • 00:15:01.260 --> 00:15:02.180
  • stuff just played in your mind,
  • 00:15:02.180 --> 00:15:04.050
  • you know what I mean?
  • 00:15:04.050 --> 00:15:04.290
  • So, man, we were just so
  • 00:15:04.290 --> 00:15:05.270
  • confused, so hurt.
  • 00:15:05.270 --> 00:15:07.160
  • We didn't have answers, you
  • 00:15:07.160 --> 00:15:09.030
  • know, to why these
  • 00:15:09.030 --> 00:15:10.010
  • things were happening.
  • 00:15:10.010 --> 00:15:11.050
  • We were trying to cope with it
  • 00:15:11.050 --> 00:15:12.050
  • the best that we knew how.
  • 00:15:12.050 --> 00:15:14.030
  • - Jose Hernandez: And so you
  • 00:15:14.030 --> 00:15:15.110
  • take that and, as much as you
  • 00:15:15.110 --> 00:15:17.030
  • don't wanna be that, as much as
  • 00:15:17.030 --> 00:15:18.220
  • you hate that, when put in
  • 00:15:23.090 --> 00:15:26.090
  • situations and life experiences,
  • 00:15:26.110 --> 00:15:29.110
  • you're gonna, kinda like,
  • 00:15:29.110 --> 00:15:31.090
  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • - David Zamora: For myself, I
  • 00:16:05.180 --> 00:16:08.180
  • guess, among Hispanic families,
  • 00:16:08.180 --> 00:16:10.150
  • we want to make our parents
  • 00:16:10.150 --> 00:16:12.110
  • proud.
  • 00:16:12.110 --> 00:16:13.190
  • We wanna make our, especially
  • 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:15.150
  • our dads proud.
  • 00:16:15.150 --> 00:16:17.010
  • I've always looked at my dad as
  • 00:16:17.010 --> 00:16:18.110
  • the strongest man, hah, in the
  • 00:16:18.110 --> 00:16:20.290
  • world, kind of thing, you know.
  • 00:16:20.290 --> 00:16:22.290
  • And the way he cared for my
  • 00:16:23.040 --> 00:16:26.040
  • other brothers, it just seemed
  • 00:16:26.040 --> 00:16:28.180
  • like he had more interest in
  • 00:16:28.180 --> 00:16:29.190
  • them and their life and what
  • 00:16:29.190 --> 00:16:31.030
  • they were doing.
  • 00:16:31.030 --> 00:16:32.130
  • You learned to just, you know,
  • 00:16:32.130 --> 00:16:33.270
  • kind of put things away.
  • 00:16:33.270 --> 00:16:35.170
  • And so when the divorce happened
  • 00:16:35.170 --> 00:16:38.090
  • and they separated, there was
  • 00:16:38.090 --> 00:16:40.170
  • somewhat of a relief but then
  • 00:16:40.170 --> 00:16:42.060
  • there was this back and forth
  • 00:16:42.060 --> 00:16:43.250
  • kind of thing and it was pretty
  • 00:16:43.250 --> 00:16:45.100
  • confusing.
  • 00:16:45.100 --> 00:16:46.180
  • - Tommy: My parents had gotten
  • 00:16:46.180 --> 00:16:47.100
  • divorced.
  • 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:47.260
  • Eventually, they were divorced.
  • 00:16:47.260 --> 00:16:48.200
  • And once they were divorced, I
  • 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.020
  • just really started
  • 00:16:51.020 --> 00:16:52.000
  • [music]
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  • [music]
  • 00:17:03.050 --> 00:17:10.220
  • [music]
  • 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:20.230
  • - Tommy: You know, we would
  • 00:17:19.060 --> 00:17:22.060
  • drink a little bit here and
  • 00:17:22.060 --> 00:17:23.090
  • there or we would get some
  • 00:17:23.090 --> 00:17:25.190
  • cigarettes and smoke.
  • 00:17:25.190 --> 00:17:27.110
  • That was, like, a big thing,
  • 00:17:27.110 --> 00:17:28.120
  • you know.
  • 00:17:28.120 --> 00:17:29.100
  • And then, obviously, marijuana
  • 00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:31.230
  • - Tommy: We were really young.
  • 00:17:42.060 --> 00:17:43.100
  • - Tommy: The house I grew up in
  • 00:18:03.140 --> 00:18:04.290
  • is probably about a block or two
  • 00:18:04.290 --> 00:18:06.050
  • down that way.
  • 00:18:06.050 --> 00:18:08.010
  • And I got a lot of special
  • 00:18:08.010 --> 00:18:08.270
  • memories walking down this
  • 00:18:08.270 --> 00:18:10.010
  • street, you know.
  • 00:18:10.010 --> 00:18:11.050
  • I was walking--used to walk down
  • 00:18:11.050 --> 00:18:12.150
  • this street as a kid with my
  • 00:18:12.150 --> 00:18:13.280
  • baseball uniform and go
  • 00:18:13.280 --> 00:18:16.060
  • and pick up my friends.
  • 00:18:16.060 --> 00:18:17.050
  • I lived right over here and we
  • 00:18:17.050 --> 00:18:19.120
  • would go to the park and play
  • 00:18:19.120 --> 00:18:20.200
  • baseball and be at the park all
  • 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:21.230
  • day long.
  • 00:18:21.230 --> 00:18:22.260
  • And then as we retired from our
  • 00:18:22.260 --> 00:18:25.110
  • baseball little league career,
  • 00:18:25.110 --> 00:18:27.290
  • we started walking down this
  • 00:18:27.290 --> 00:18:29.260
  • same street to come and meet
  • 00:18:29.260 --> 00:18:32.040
  • with all my friends then but we
  • 00:18:32.040 --> 00:18:33.160
  • would end up using a lot of
  • 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.080
  • drugs, a lot of alcohol.
  • 00:18:35.080 --> 00:18:37.090
  • - David Zamora: I remember at
  • 00:18:37.090 --> 00:18:38.210
  • school hanging out with a couple
  • 00:18:38.210 --> 00:18:39.280
  • of friends and we kind of just
  • 00:18:41.060 --> 00:18:44.060
  • started our own little clique,
  • 00:18:44.060 --> 00:18:45.180
  • you know.
  • 00:18:45.180 --> 00:18:46.170
  • And that was in elementary
  • 00:18:46.170 --> 00:18:48.050
  • school.
  • 00:18:48.050 --> 00:18:49.090
  • And I remember that we never,
  • 00:18:49.090 --> 00:18:51.240
  • kind of, let nobody mess with
  • 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.080
  • us.
  • 00:18:53.080 --> 00:18:54.040
  • As far as what a gang really
  • 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:55.170
  • was, at that young age, I just
  • 00:18:55.170 --> 00:18:56.250
  • didn't know.
  • 00:18:56.250 --> 00:18:57.240
  • I just knew that I wanted to be
  • 00:18:57.240 --> 00:18:59.060
  • a part of something.
  • 00:18:59.060 --> 00:19:00.170
  • - Sonia Trujillo: Even getting
  • 00:19:00.170 --> 00:19:01.100
  • involved in gangs didn't just
  • 00:19:01.100 --> 00:19:02.140
  • happen from one day to the
  • 00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:03.130
  • other.
  • 00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:04.070
  • It was just the local gang
  • 00:19:04.070 --> 00:19:05.130
  • members coming and starting a
  • 00:19:05.130 --> 00:19:06.130
  • conversation.
  • 00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:08.020
  • And then it was talking to us a
  • 00:19:08.020 --> 00:19:09.090
  • little more and then inviting us
  • 00:19:09.090 --> 00:19:10.120
  • to come hang out.
  • 00:19:10.120 --> 00:19:11.100
  • And it stopped--it started so
  • 00:19:11.100 --> 00:19:12.270
  • subtly but then eventually
  • 00:19:12.270 --> 00:19:15.010
  • they had formed a relationship
  • 00:19:15.010 --> 00:19:16.130
  • that mattered so much to us that
  • 00:19:16.130 --> 00:19:18.100
  • they began to matter more than
  • 00:19:18.100 --> 00:19:19.210
  • our real families did.
  • 00:19:19.210 --> 00:19:21.080
  • - Mando Ochoa: So I left the
  • 00:19:21.080 --> 00:19:22.180
  • streets and my mom wouldn't
  • 00:19:22.180 --> 00:19:25.030
  • support me in a lot of things,
  • 00:19:25.030 --> 00:19:26.200
  • so she was, like, if you wanna
  • 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:27.180
  • live that life, you've gotta
  • 00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:28.100
  • live it out there.
  • 00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:29.070
  • So and that's what I did, you
  • 00:19:29.070 --> 00:19:30.070
  • know?
  • 00:19:30.070 --> 00:19:30.280
  • I went to my older homeboys,
  • 00:19:30.280 --> 00:19:32.010
  • they gave me stuff to sell.
  • 00:19:32.010 --> 00:19:33.230
  • You know, they showed me the
  • 00:19:33.230 --> 00:19:34.140
  • ropes of how to live out here in
  • 00:19:34.140 --> 00:19:35.260
  • the streets.
  • 00:19:35.260 --> 00:19:36.290
  • - David Zamora: I remember one
  • 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:45.200
  • time as a kid kind of hanging
  • 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:47.260
  • out in front of these apartments
  • 00:19:47.260 --> 00:19:49.050
  • and there was this older guy.
  • 00:19:49.050 --> 00:19:51.130
  • He started talking to me.
  • 00:19:51.130 --> 00:19:53.140
  • And I started talking to him,
  • 00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:55.130
  • kind of back like how I'd talk
  • 00:19:55.130 --> 00:19:56.260
  • with my friends.
  • 00:19:56.260 --> 00:19:57.280
  • And I started noticing that he
  • 00:19:57.280 --> 00:19:59.190
  • was, like, kind of giving me
  • 00:19:59.190 --> 00:20:00.210
  • respect that I wanted.
  • 00:20:00.210 --> 00:20:03.050
  • Like, he was treating me not
  • 00:20:03.050 --> 00:20:04.000
  • like a kid.
  • 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:04.210
  • He was treating me like one of
  • 00:20:04.210 --> 00:20:05.130
  • his peers.
  • 00:20:05.130 --> 00:20:06.280
  • And I remember he used a term,
  • 00:20:06.280 --> 00:20:08.070
  • you know, "You're a good little
  • 00:20:08.070 --> 00:20:10.090
  • homey."
  • 00:20:10.090 --> 00:20:11.090
  • And as soon as he told me that,
  • 00:20:11.090 --> 00:20:12.220
  • I felt right there, "Man, I'm
  • 00:20:12.220 --> 00:20:14.170
  • accepted."
  • 00:20:14.170 --> 00:20:15.100
  • It was--I was hearing, "You're a
  • 00:20:15.100 --> 00:20:16.090
  • good son."
  • 00:20:16.090 --> 00:20:17.260
  • And I remember he said, "Hey,
  • 00:20:17.260 --> 00:20:18.210
  • you know, I'm gonna do something
  • 00:20:18.210 --> 00:20:20.220
  • right now.
  • 00:20:20.220 --> 00:20:21.160
  • I wonder if you wanna go with
  • 00:20:21.160 --> 00:20:22.070
  • me?"
  • 00:20:22.070 --> 00:20:22.240
  • And I said, "Sure."
  • 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:23.260
  • He used the term, "Are you
  • 00:20:23.260 --> 00:20:24.240
  • down?"
  • 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.110
  • Meaning, "Are you all in?"
  • 00:20:25.110 --> 00:20:26.260
  • And I says, "Yeah, I'm down,
  • 00:20:26.260 --> 00:20:28.020
  • man.
  • 00:20:28.020 --> 00:20:29.030
  • Let's do this."
  • 00:20:29.030 --> 00:20:31.170
  • He took me to a home.
  • 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:33.170
  • We kind of started going towards
  • 00:20:33.170 --> 00:20:35.130
  • the back of the house and he
  • 00:20:35.130 --> 00:20:36.280
  • just said, "Hey, I'm gonna--the
  • 00:20:36.280 --> 00:20:38.080
  • sliding door's open and it's
  • 00:20:38.080 --> 00:20:39.230
  • been open for a couple of hours
  • 00:20:39.230 --> 00:20:41.010
  • and the people left.
  • 00:20:41.010 --> 00:20:42.130
  • And I'm gonna go inside.
  • 00:20:42.130 --> 00:20:44.060
  • I need you to jump over this
  • 00:20:44.060 --> 00:20:45.020
  • fence with me and I need you to
  • 00:20:45.020 --> 00:20:46.200
  • look out and see if anybody's
  • 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.240
  • coming."
  • 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:49.110
  • I'm 11 years old, man.
  • 00:20:49.110 --> 00:20:50.110
  • This is my first residential
  • 00:20:50.110 --> 00:20:51.200
  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • [music]
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  • - David Zamora: And we went in
  • 00:21:19.110 --> 00:21:22.110
  • there.
  • 00:21:22.110 --> 00:21:22.260
  • I remember my heart was beating
  • 00:21:22.260 --> 00:21:24.040
  • And he got what he wanted and I
  • 00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:39.040
  • heard somebody coming and I'm,
  • 00:21:39.040 --> 00:21:40.130
  • like, you know, "They're
  • 00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:41.090
  • coming."
  • 00:21:41.090 --> 00:21:41.240
  • This guy flew out of there
  • 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:42.220
  • And I seen him, probably about
  • 00:22:00.080 --> 00:22:02.180
  • a couple of days later.
  • 00:22:02.180 --> 00:22:04.040
  • And I remember I didn't wanna
  • 00:22:04.040 --> 00:22:04.260
  • walk around that apartment
  • 00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:06.020
  • anymore because I felt like
  • 00:22:06.020 --> 00:22:07.090
  • I was gonna get caught.
  • 00:22:07.090 --> 00:22:08.240
  • But when I seen him, he said,
  • 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:09.250
  • "You did real good.
  • 00:22:09.250 --> 00:22:10.210
  • You know, you're a good homey."
  • 00:22:10.210 --> 00:22:12.110
  • That's what he told me.
  • 00:22:12.110 --> 00:22:13.090
  • And from then on, I felt,
  • 00:22:13.090 --> 00:22:15.080
  • "This is what I'm looking for,
  • 00:22:15.080 --> 00:22:16.160
  • - Jose Hernandez: Thirteen
  • 00:22:51.080 --> 00:22:51.280
  • years old and I remember
  • 00:22:51.280 --> 00:22:52.260
  • getting jumped into a gang.
  • 00:22:56.150 --> 00:22:59.150
  • And jump you,
  • 00:22:59.150 --> 00:23:00.190
  • it was, like, you know, you're
  • 00:23:00.190 --> 00:23:01.160
  • getting the snot beat out of
  • 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:03.040
  • you.
  • 00:23:03.040 --> 00:23:04.190
  • And you're trying to hang with
  • 00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:05.150
  • them but, you know, normally you
  • 00:23:05.150 --> 00:23:06.210
  • can't and so you just give up
  • 00:23:06.210 --> 00:23:08.090
  • and cover your head and your
  • 00:23:08.090 --> 00:23:10.040
  • neck and just go down
  • 00:23:10.040 --> 00:23:11.290
  • and hope that it ends
  • 00:23:11.290 --> 00:23:13.150
  • - David Trujillo: And to be
  • 00:23:52.030 --> 00:23:52.240
  • honest with you, we went in
  • 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:53.180
  • there just, kinda, to have fun,
  • 00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:55.040
  • type of thing, never realizing
  • 00:23:55.040 --> 00:23:56.230
  • how it was gonna pull us in and
  • 00:23:56.230 --> 00:23:58.230
  • change our whole way of thinking
  • 00:23:58.230 --> 00:24:00.030
  • - Tommy: We had no clue.
  • 00:24:52.170 --> 00:24:54.200
  • We really thought that this
  • 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:55.180
  • was our life.
  • 00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:56.160
  • This is what we do.
  • 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.170
  • And it's not a big deal.
  • 00:24:57.170 --> 00:24:59.010
  • - Jose Hernandez: The
  • 00:25:34.010 --> 00:25:34.250
  • day-to-day living here was just
  • 00:25:34.250 --> 00:25:36.130
  • running around with the fellas,
  • 00:25:36.130 --> 00:25:38.160
  • you know, getting loaded,
  • 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:40.000
  • hanging out, controlling the
  • 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.270
  • streets, you know, not letting
  • 00:25:41.270 --> 00:25:43.040
  • nobody in, you know, that didn't
  • 00:25:43.040 --> 00:25:44.130
  • belong here, you know.
  • 00:25:44.130 --> 00:25:46.070
  • Gangbanging.
  • 00:25:46.070 --> 00:25:48.000
  • - Jose Escalante: We just
  • 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:48.230
  • wanted to get out and, you know,
  • 00:25:48.230 --> 00:25:50.130
  • do our thing and meet with
  • 00:25:50.130 --> 00:25:51.140
  • homeboys, whoever was out, and
  • 00:25:51.140 --> 00:25:53.220
  • just hook up and do something,
  • 00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:54.230
  • you know?
  • 00:25:54.230 --> 00:25:56.050
  • Try to come up on some money
  • 00:25:56.050 --> 00:25:57.000
  • somewhere and buy some dope, you
  • 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.200
  • know, flip it, try to come up on
  • 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.180
  • some money and just make it
  • 00:26:01.180 --> 00:26:02.240
  • - Jose Hernandez: When I was
  • 00:26:28.130 --> 00:26:29.040
  • growing up here, the majority of
  • 00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:31.070
  • the community was made up of
  • 00:26:31.070 --> 00:26:32.260
  • African Americans and now
  • 00:26:32.260 --> 00:26:34.260
  • it's mostly Hispanic,
  • 00:26:34.260 --> 00:26:36.020
  • about 70% of it.
  • 00:26:36.020 --> 00:26:38.240
  • It was rough, living in this
  • 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.020
  • area just because of the fact
  • 00:26:40.020 --> 00:26:41.290
  • that, you know, the two cultures
  • 00:26:41.290 --> 00:26:44.080
  • came together and they kind of
  • 00:26:44.080 --> 00:26:45.260
  • clashed all the time and it's
  • 00:26:45.260 --> 00:26:47.030
  • been like that ever since.
  • 00:26:47.030 --> 00:26:48.230
  • For a 10-year-old kid, you know,
  • 00:26:48.230 --> 00:26:49.290
  • try to picture it, you know,
  • 00:26:49.290 --> 00:26:51.000
  • you're playing with your GI Joes
  • 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:52.250
  • and, you know, you're playing
  • 00:26:52.250 --> 00:26:54.160
  • with Atari back in the day.
  • 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.020
  • Like, I guess the last thing
  • 00:26:56.020 --> 00:26:57.140
  • that you would have to worry
  • 00:26:57.140 --> 00:26:59.130
  • about is, like, you know,
  • 00:26:59.130 --> 00:27:00.280
  • getting to and from school,
  • 00:27:00.280 --> 00:27:02.200
  • getting to and from
  • 00:27:02.200 --> 00:27:03.240
  • the playground and just being
  • 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.160
  • safe and having that security.
  • 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.040
  • And here we are, you know,
  • 00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:11.060
  • having to run at times
  • 00:27:11.060 --> 00:27:12.280
  • from the playground.
  • 00:27:12.280 --> 00:27:14.210
  • Having to run at times from
  • 00:27:14.210 --> 00:27:15.290
  • school because of all the stupid
  • 00:27:15.290 --> 00:27:18.060
  • things going on around you.
  • 00:27:18.060 --> 00:27:20.010
  • I mean, walking up and down
  • 00:27:20.010 --> 00:27:21.270
  • these streets was no joke,
  • 00:27:21.270 --> 00:27:23.110
  • growing up.
  • 00:27:23.110 --> 00:27:24.240
  • I mean, it was difficult.
  • 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.270
  • It was challenging, you know.
  • 00:27:25.270 --> 00:27:27.040
  • You had people getting shot.
  • 00:27:27.040 --> 00:27:28.170
  • You had people getting robbed.
  • 00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:29.210
  • My mom got robbed almost every
  • 00:27:29.210 --> 00:27:31.060
  • single month, going to 103rd
  • 00:27:31.170 --> 00:27:34.170
  • - David Trujillo: I remember my
  • 00:27:50.220 --> 00:27:51.180
  • first--one of my--witnessing one
  • 00:27:51.180 --> 00:27:53.130
  • of my friends' death,
  • 00:27:53.130 --> 00:27:55.040
  • a 14-year-old kid, you know.
  • 00:27:55.040 --> 00:27:57.160
  • He was with my brother.
  • 00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:58.280
  • They went out on the streets to
  • 00:27:58.280 --> 00:27:59.270
  • buy some crack.
  • 00:27:59.270 --> 00:28:01.150
  • The car drove up, asked them
  • 00:28:01.150 --> 00:28:03.060
  • where they were from.
  • 00:28:03.060 --> 00:28:04.040
  • My brother, you know, yelled out
  • 00:28:04.040 --> 00:28:05.050
  • the gang, started running.
  • 00:28:05.050 --> 00:28:06.160
  • My other friend ran with him.
  • 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:07.210
  • And they shot, basically blew
  • 00:28:07.210 --> 00:28:09.120
  • half his head off with a
  • 00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:11.150
  • shotgun.
  • 00:28:11.150 --> 00:28:14.090
  • And I remember just thinking,
  • 00:28:14.090 --> 00:28:15.210
  • like, "Man, this is fake.
  • 00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:16.140
  • - David Zamora: You know,
  • 00:28:34.070 --> 00:28:35.000
  • you're a member of a gang.
  • 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:36.070
  • There are certain things that
  • 00:28:36.070 --> 00:28:37.080
  • you have to do for membership
  • 00:28:37.110 --> 00:28:40.110
  • and there's different elements
  • 00:28:40.110 --> 00:28:41.050
  • to a gang.
  • 00:28:41.050 --> 00:28:42.090
  • I mean, you have guys that were
  • 00:28:42.090 --> 00:28:43.280
  • from the neighborhood that were
  • 00:28:43.280 --> 00:28:44.250
  • just into the girls.
  • 00:28:44.250 --> 00:28:46.090
  • You had guys that were the dope
  • 00:28:46.090 --> 00:28:48.050
  • dealers in the neighborhood.
  • 00:28:48.050 --> 00:28:49.170
  • All they did was sling dope.
  • 00:28:49.170 --> 00:28:50.290
  • So you had different types of
  • 00:28:50.290 --> 00:28:52.030
  • guys.
  • 00:28:52.030 --> 00:28:52.250
  • Then you had the dudes that were
  • 00:28:52.250 --> 00:28:53.200
  • just--they were just gangsters,
  • 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.260
  • man.
  • 00:28:55.260 --> 00:28:56.140
  • I mean, they dressed, you know,
  • 00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:57.260
  • sharp.
  • 00:28:57.260 --> 00:28:58.200
  • They were the guys that just
  • 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.080
  • represented the neighborhood.
  • 00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:01.170
  • - Jose Hernandez: Literally, I
  • 00:29:01.170 --> 00:29:02.140
  • would iron my pants for, like,
  • 00:29:02.140 --> 00:29:03.250
  • about 2 hours.
  • 00:29:03.250 --> 00:29:05.150
  • I'm not kidding you.
  • 00:29:05.150 --> 00:29:07.010
  • I know this is gonna seem funny
  • 00:29:07.010 --> 00:29:08.210
  • but you iron your tee-shirts.
  • 00:29:08.210 --> 00:29:10.210
  • - David Zamora: It's almost
  • 00:29:10.210 --> 00:29:11.250
  • like earning your stripes, you
  • 00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:13.080
  • know, and earning status.
  • 00:29:13.080 --> 00:29:15.040
  • - Jose Hernandez: You took
  • 00:29:15.040 --> 00:29:16.060
  • pride.
  • 00:29:16.060 --> 00:29:17.010
  • That was the attractive thing
  • 00:29:17.010 --> 00:29:18.010
  • about it.
  • 00:29:18.010 --> 00:29:20.150
  • - David Trujillo: My character
  • 00:29:20.150 --> 00:29:22.110
  • as a gangster was just--was
  • 00:29:22.110 --> 00:29:23.070
  • building, you know, pride.
  • 00:29:23.070 --> 00:29:26.040
  • I wanted to be the toughest guy
  • 00:29:26.040 --> 00:29:27.010
  • in the neighborhood.
  • 00:29:27.010 --> 00:29:28.070
  • Yeah, I think every gangster
  • 00:29:28.070 --> 00:29:29.050
  • wants to do that, you know, be
  • 00:29:29.050 --> 00:29:30.070
  • recognized as one of
  • 00:29:30.070 --> 00:29:31.020
  • - Jose Hernandez: You have to
  • 00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:40.110
  • have that attitude,
  • 00:29:40.110 --> 00:29:41.080
  • the survival attitude, the
  • 00:29:41.080 --> 00:29:42.210
  • nobody's-gonna-tell-me-anything
  • 00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:44.080
  • attitude.
  • 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:45.110
  • You know, like, "F" the police,
  • 00:29:45.110 --> 00:29:47.290
  • nobody's gonna tell me what to
  • 00:29:47.290 --> 00:29:48.270
  • do, all my friends are dying
  • 00:29:48.270 --> 00:29:50.180
  • around me, and I'm gonna go out
  • 00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:52.250
  • my own way, you know, like,
  • 00:29:52.250 --> 00:29:54.240
  • I'm gonna do my own thing
  • 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:55.280
  • and nobody's gonna tell me
  • 00:29:55.280 --> 00:29:57.050
  • what to do.
  • 00:29:57.050 --> 00:29:58.000
  • And if I get killed, it's
  • 00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.060
  • because I'm gonna get killed
  • 00:29:59.060 --> 00:30:00.160
  • - David Zamora: There was a
  • 00:30:25.210 --> 00:30:26.160
  • period of time where I had--was
  • 00:30:28.210 --> 00:30:31.210
  • playing with a friend of mine
  • 00:30:31.210 --> 00:30:32.200
  • and we lived in this big
  • 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:33.230
  • apartment complex and when I was
  • 00:30:34.020 --> 00:30:37.020
  • hanging out with him, one of
  • 00:30:37.020 --> 00:30:39.100
  • his relatives had, you know,
  • 00:30:40.090 --> 00:30:43.090
  • - David Trujillo: When you're
  • 00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:57.150
  • a kid, you don't know the damage
  • 00:30:57.150 --> 00:30:59.050
  • that it's doing to you mentally.
  • 00:30:59.050 --> 00:31:01.030
  • - Tommy: Being confused is,
  • 00:31:01.030 --> 00:31:02.110
  • like, "What happened?"
  • 00:31:02.110 --> 00:31:03.060
  • You know, the next days after,
  • 00:31:03.060 --> 00:31:04.040
  • like, "What happened?
  • 00:31:04.040 --> 00:31:04.230
  • What did that, you know--what
  • 00:31:04.230 --> 00:31:06.030
  • does that mean about me?"
  • 00:31:06.030 --> 00:31:07.260
  • You know, all the questions I
  • 00:31:07.260 --> 00:31:09.220
  • had about me and then the whole
  • 00:31:10.030 --> 00:31:13.030
  • hate towards this individual.
  • 00:31:13.030 --> 00:31:15.060
  • And that's really where the
  • 00:31:15.060 --> 00:31:16.250
  • whole thing where I started to,
  • 00:31:16.250 --> 00:31:19.010
  • kinda like, fantasize about, you
  • 00:31:19.010 --> 00:31:20.110
  • know, just people being
  • 00:31:20.110 --> 00:31:23.090
  • dismembered, you know?
  • 00:31:23.090 --> 00:31:24.110
  • And that's such an--I hate
  • 00:31:24.110 --> 00:31:25.260
  • to--it's such an ugly thing for
  • 00:31:25.260 --> 00:31:27.010
  • me to even share but--and I
  • 00:31:27.010 --> 00:31:29.040
  • don't know if me just thinking
  • 00:31:29.040 --> 00:31:30.100
  • about it and fantasizing about,
  • 00:31:30.100 --> 00:31:32.090
  • you know, that person being
  • 00:31:32.090 --> 00:31:34.190
  • destroyed in that kind of a way,
  • 00:31:34.190 --> 00:31:36.100
  • it's such an ugly, horrific way,
  • 00:31:36.100 --> 00:31:38.080
  • if it brought me a sense of
  • 00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:40.090
  • peace.
  • 00:31:40.090 --> 00:31:41.110
  • - David Zamora: What was wrong
  • 00:31:41.110 --> 00:31:42.240
  • with me?
  • 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.290
  • What was so feminine about me
  • 00:31:43.290 --> 00:31:45.080
  • that a grown man would want me?
  • 00:31:45.080 --> 00:31:47.090
  • And to be as young as I was,
  • 00:31:47.090 --> 00:31:49.130
  • to think that way, I remember
  • 00:31:49.130 --> 00:31:52.010
  • telling myself, "One, that's
  • 00:31:52.010 --> 00:31:53.270
  • never gonna happen again.
  • 00:31:53.270 --> 00:31:55.090
  • And two, I'm just gonna show
  • 00:31:55.090 --> 00:31:57.180
  • that there's nothing--I'm not
  • 00:31:57.180 --> 00:32:00.190
  • a girl."
  • 00:32:01.110 --> 00:32:04.110
  • But nobody knew.
  • 00:32:04.110 --> 00:32:05.240
  • None of my friends knew.
  • 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.090
  • So what I was trying to prove
  • 00:32:07.090 --> 00:32:08.090
  • was something that was taking
  • 00:32:08.090 --> 00:32:09.070
  • place internally, in here.
  • 00:32:09.070 --> 00:32:11.290
  • And it was a wrestling in my
  • 00:32:11.290 --> 00:32:12.280
  • heart.
  • 00:32:12.280 --> 00:32:14.020
  • - Jose Hernandez: It's almost
  • 00:32:14.020 --> 00:32:14.230
  • like your manhood is challenged.
  • 00:32:14.230 --> 00:32:16.210
  • You know, I guess through that
  • 00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:18.020
  • root of, you know, like, well,
  • 00:32:18.020 --> 00:32:19.080
  • you're not a man.
  • 00:32:19.080 --> 00:32:20.120
  • "Oh, I'm not a man?
  • 00:32:20.120 --> 00:32:22.220
  • I'm not a man?
  • 00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:24.090
  • I'm gonna show you I'm a man
  • 00:32:24.090 --> 00:32:25.190
  • - male: I ain't no chavala.
  • 00:32:39.060 --> 00:32:42.060
  • You keep it up,
  • 00:32:42.060 --> 00:32:43.030
  • I'm gonna kill you,
  • 00:32:43.030 --> 00:32:46.000
  • te voy a matar.
  • 00:32:46.040 --> 00:32:49.040
  • - Tommy: We didn't really
  • 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:29.100
  • feel young.
  • 00:33:29.100 --> 00:33:30.210
  • I know that my wife--we didn't
  • 00:33:30.210 --> 00:33:31.230
  • think that we were that young.
  • 00:33:31.230 --> 00:33:33.040
  • However, we were.
  • 00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:34.200
  • That day we got married was--
  • 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.240
  • it was just a party.
  • 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:38.140
  • Didn't understand the dynamics
  • 00:33:38.140 --> 00:33:40.170
  • of what marriage is, what,
  • 00:33:40.170 --> 00:33:43.140
  • you know, what it means to be
  • 00:33:43.140 --> 00:33:46.080
  • married to a person for the rest
  • 00:33:46.080 --> 00:33:48.000
  • of your life, to love that
  • 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:49.080
  • person as Christ loves
  • 00:33:49.080 --> 00:33:51.000
  • the church.
  • 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:52.130
  • Had no clue of what that meant
  • 00:33:52.130 --> 00:33:53.260
  • or anything.
  • 00:33:53.260 --> 00:33:54.260
  • And the next thing you know, is
  • 00:33:54.260 --> 00:33:56.160
  • we're--there we are.
  • 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:59.050
  • It was flooded with alcohol.
  • 00:33:59.050 --> 00:34:01.120
  • There was drugs, there were gang
  • 00:34:01.120 --> 00:34:04.120
  • members from other communities
  • 00:34:04.120 --> 00:34:07.010
  • and everything.
  • 00:34:07.010 --> 00:34:08.110
  • Some people that were there,
  • 00:34:08.110 --> 00:34:10.020
  • that attended our wedding, ended
  • 00:34:10.020 --> 00:34:11.230
  • up going to jail that night.
  • 00:34:11.230 --> 00:34:13.030
  • They were smoking PCP out in the
  • 00:34:13.030 --> 00:34:14.140
  • parking lot and cops showed up.
  • 00:34:14.140 --> 00:34:16.150
  • And you know, that was
  • 00:34:16.150 --> 00:34:17.200
  • our wedding day.
  • 00:34:17.200 --> 00:34:19.130
  • I was drunk.
  • 00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:20.130
  • I don't remember too much of the
  • 00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:22.160
  • wedding day myself, you know.
  • 00:34:22.160 --> 00:34:25.070
  • And if--as I look back now on
  • 00:34:26.220 --> 00:34:29.220
  • that wedding day, it's, like,
  • 00:34:29.220 --> 00:34:31.170
  • "Man, you know, it began--that
  • 00:34:31.170 --> 00:34:34.050
  • began this life for my wife
  • 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.280
  • and I of hell."
  • 00:34:38.220 --> 00:34:41.220
  • - David Zamora: When I met my
  • 00:34:41.220 --> 00:34:43.000
  • wife, you know, we started
  • 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.270
  • talking and I remember telling
  • 00:34:44.270 --> 00:34:45.250
  • her when I first met her,
  • 00:34:45.250 --> 00:34:47.280
  • I says, you know, "There's
  • 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:48.270
  • something you need to understand
  • 00:34:48.270 --> 00:34:50.020
  • right off the top, if this is
  • 00:34:50.020 --> 00:34:51.280
  • gonna go anywhere."
  • 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.010
  • And she's, like, "What?"
  • 00:34:53.010 --> 00:34:55.110
  • I says, "This relationship.
  • 00:34:55.110 --> 00:34:57.020
  • You need to understand one
  • 00:34:57.020 --> 00:34:57.240
  • thing."
  • 00:34:57.240 --> 00:34:58.220
  • She says, "What?"
  • 00:34:58.220 --> 00:35:00.120
  • I says, "You'll always be number
  • 00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:01.130
  • two in my life.
  • 00:35:01.130 --> 00:35:03.030
  • Heroin is the love of my life.
  • 00:35:03.030 --> 00:35:04.120
  • Dope is the love of my life.
  • 00:35:04.120 --> 00:35:06.220
  • And if you can deal with that,
  • 00:35:06.220 --> 00:35:08.230
  • then we can do this."
  • 00:35:08.230 --> 00:35:10.230
  • And her dad had just died of a
  • 00:35:10.230 --> 00:35:12.030
  • heroin overdose 6 months prior
  • 00:35:12.030 --> 00:35:14.170
  • to me telling her that.
  • 00:35:14.170 --> 00:35:16.190
  • - Jose Hernandez: I didn't know
  • 00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:17.220
  • how to deal with things.
  • 00:35:17.220 --> 00:35:18.270
  • I didn't know how to deal with
  • 00:35:18.270 --> 00:35:19.180
  • problems.
  • 00:35:19.180 --> 00:35:20.250
  • You know, I didn't know how to
  • 00:35:20.250 --> 00:35:21.260
  • deal with challenges in life.
  • 00:35:21.260 --> 00:35:24.250
  • And so it was, like, "Look,
  • 00:35:24.250 --> 00:35:26.220
  • you're gonna do what I tell you
  • 00:35:26.220 --> 00:35:27.260
  • to do or we're gonna have a
  • 00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:30.160
  • problem."
  • 00:35:30.160 --> 00:35:31.070
  • And it did become abusive and it
  • 00:35:31.070 --> 00:35:32.280
  • became physically abusive,
  • 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.280
  • verbally abusive, mentally
  • 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.100
  • abusive.
  • 00:35:36.100 --> 00:35:37.130
  • It was really bad.
  • 00:35:37.290 --> 00:35:40.290
  • You know, we ended up splitting
  • 00:35:40.290 --> 00:35:42.110
  • up.
  • 00:35:42.110 --> 00:35:43.090
  • She's seeing someone else.
  • 00:35:43.090 --> 00:35:45.120
  • I'm out here messing around and
  • 00:35:45.120 --> 00:35:47.260
  • I'm, like, "I'm not gonna do
  • 00:35:47.260 --> 00:35:50.140
  • this."
  • 00:35:50.240 --> 00:35:53.240
  • You know, really poetic justice,
  • 00:35:53.240 --> 00:35:55.090
  • kinda like, you know, this whole
  • 00:35:55.090 --> 00:35:56.230
  • Romeo and Juliet.
  • 00:35:59.140 --> 00:36:02.160
  • And I remember being in this
  • 00:36:02.160 --> 00:36:04.120
  • place and I remember having an
  • 00:36:04.120 --> 00:36:06.210
  • AK-47, had about 1.000 rounds,
  • 00:36:08.050 --> 00:36:11.050
  • and I had a Glock 19,
  • 00:36:11.050 --> 00:36:13.030
  • fully loaded.
  • 00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:14.070
  • If I get enough courage and if
  • 00:36:14.100 --> 00:36:17.100
  • she doesn't do what I tell her,
  • 00:36:17.100 --> 00:36:19.120
  • then I'm gonna shoot her and
  • 00:36:19.120 --> 00:36:20.190
  • then I'm gonna shoot myself.
  • 00:36:20.190 --> 00:36:23.060
  • You know, I started drinking and
  • 00:36:23.060 --> 00:36:24.240
  • I took some pills.
  • 00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:27.260
  • I fell asleep.
  • 00:36:27.260 --> 00:36:29.100
  • And I remember it was, like, in
  • 00:36:29.100 --> 00:36:30.150
  • [phone ringing]
  • 00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:38.120
  • And I remember
  • 00:36:38.120 --> 00:36:39.020
  • the next phone call.
  • 00:36:39.020 --> 00:36:39.240
  • It woke me up and I'm, like, my
  • 00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:42.110
  • ex-wife has gone, the baby's
  • 00:36:42.110 --> 00:36:44.020
  • gone, my gun's gone.
  • 00:36:44.020 --> 00:36:45.160
  • I can't find anything.
  • 00:36:45.160 --> 00:36:46.250
  • And the phone's ringing.
  • 00:36:46.250 --> 00:36:48.190
  • [phone ringing]
  • 00:36:52.180 --> 00:36:55.180
  • You know, you start panicking.
  • 00:36:55.180 --> 00:36:57.250
  • And it's the Southgate
  • 00:36:57.250 --> 00:36:58.240
  • Police Department.
  • 00:36:58.240 --> 00:37:01.140
  • And they're, like, "You need to
  • 00:37:01.140 --> 00:37:02.290
  • come out with your hands up.
  • 00:37:02.290 --> 00:37:04.250
  • We have the place surrounded."
  • 00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:07.220
  • - Tommy: Because of my
  • 00:37:14.110 --> 00:37:15.200
  • lifestyle and the choices that I
  • 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:16.240
  • was making, I started going in
  • 00:37:16.240 --> 00:37:18.060
  • and out of the L.A. County Jail.
  • 00:37:19.010 --> 00:37:22.010
  • Didn't know what to expect,
  • 00:37:22.010 --> 00:37:23.110
  • didn't know what it was gonna be
  • 00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:24.050
  • like.
  • 00:37:24.050 --> 00:37:24.220
  • And I was scared.
  • 00:37:24.220 --> 00:37:25.190
  • After those first few days of
  • 00:37:25.190 --> 00:37:26.250
  • being in that L.A. County Jail,
  • 00:37:26.250 --> 00:37:28.150
  • I realized, you know, yeah,
  • 00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:30.180
  • I can do this, you know.
  • 00:37:30.180 --> 00:37:32.040
  • It wasn't as bad.
  • 00:37:32.040 --> 00:37:33.110
  • I survived it.
  • 00:37:34.160 --> 00:37:37.160
  • - Jose Hernandez: You have a
  • 00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:38.180
  • metal toilet, a metal bed, and
  • 00:37:38.180 --> 00:37:41.070
  • if you're lucky, you get a
  • 00:37:41.070 --> 00:37:42.050
  • roll-up thing which is, like,
  • 00:37:42.050 --> 00:37:43.260
  • maybe like, an inch of foam.
  • 00:37:43.260 --> 00:37:46.190
  • - David Trujillo: I got jumped.
  • 00:37:46.190 --> 00:37:47.140
  • I got my nose cracked.
  • 00:37:47.140 --> 00:37:48.110
  • I got my ribs cracked by
  • 00:37:48.110 --> 00:37:49.120
  • some black gangs.
  • 00:37:49.120 --> 00:37:51.000
  • You know, it was the first time
  • 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:51.220
  • I've ever been busted.
  • 00:37:51.220 --> 00:37:52.180
  • All the gangsters go--to go from
  • 00:37:52.180 --> 00:37:54.210
  • juvenile hall to camp to YA,
  • 00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:57.010
  • you know, to county jail
  • 00:37:57.010 --> 00:37:58.240
  • and to the prison.
  • 00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:00.080
  • That was my goal.
  • 00:38:00.080 --> 00:38:00.290
  • - Tommy: So I didn't change my
  • 00:38:00.290 --> 00:38:01.220
  • lifestyle.
  • 00:38:01.220 --> 00:38:02.190
  • I didn't change the things that
  • 00:38:02.190 --> 00:38:03.200
  • I was doing.
  • 00:38:03.200 --> 00:38:04.060
  • As a matter of fact, I started
  • 00:38:04.060 --> 00:38:05.120
  • doing a lot more things.
  • 00:38:05.120 --> 00:38:07.120
  • Started doing more drugs.
  • 00:38:07.120 --> 00:38:08.210
  • Started hanging out on the
  • 00:38:08.210 --> 00:38:09.160
  • streets and doing more foolish
  • 00:38:09.160 --> 00:38:11.100
  • things.
  • 00:38:11.100 --> 00:38:12.120
  • Guess you can say, in a really
  • 00:38:12.120 --> 00:38:13.220
  • dark evil, you know, deceived
  • 00:38:13.220 --> 00:38:16.120
  • way, I was enjoying it.
  • 00:38:16.120 --> 00:38:18.270
  • I enjoyed it.
  • 00:38:18.270 --> 00:38:20.200
  • I figured, you know, I can
  • 00:38:20.200 --> 00:38:21.280
  • actually survive in here, I can
  • 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.160
  • live in here.
  • 00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:24.060
  • I can even, at times, I can
  • 00:38:24.060 --> 00:38:25.140
  • thrive in here.
  • 00:38:25.140 --> 00:38:26.170
  • - David Zamora: In this
  • 00:38:26.170 --> 00:38:27.050
  • neighborhood, what you're taught
  • 00:38:27.050 --> 00:38:27.270
  • here, is you haven't done
  • 00:38:27.270 --> 00:38:29.100
  • nothing if you haven't been to
  • 00:38:29.100 --> 00:38:30.110
  • the joint.
  • 00:38:30.110 --> 00:38:31.100
  • You go to the joint, you've
  • 00:38:31.100 --> 00:38:32.110
  • arrived.
  • 00:38:32.110 --> 00:38:33.140
  • - male: You earn your stripes.
  • 00:38:33.140 --> 00:38:34.060
  • - David Zamora: You earn your
  • 00:38:34.060 --> 00:38:34.270
  • stripes, you know?
  • 00:38:34.270 --> 00:38:35.120
  • And that's just like the whole
  • 00:38:35.120 --> 00:38:36.120
  • dynamic of it.
  • 00:38:36.120 --> 00:38:37.230
  • - Jose Hernandez: And I think
  • 00:38:37.230 --> 00:38:39.130
  • in the scheme of things when you
  • 00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:41.160
  • look at all the deficiencies in
  • 00:38:41.160 --> 00:38:42.150
  • your life, when you look at all
  • 00:38:42.150 --> 00:38:43.110
  • the things that you don't have
  • 00:38:43.110 --> 00:38:44.210
  • and here, there's this
  • 00:38:44.210 --> 00:38:47.090
  • institution, there's this other
  • 00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:49.130
  • way that offers you all those
  • 00:38:50.030 --> 00:38:53.030
  • different things, you know, or
  • 00:38:53.030 --> 00:38:56.000
  • offers you all those things that
  • 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:57.190
  • you need.
  • 00:38:57.190 --> 00:38:58.240
  • Why wouldn't you do that?
  • 00:38:58.240 --> 00:39:01.040
  • - David Zamora: What that did
  • 00:39:01.040 --> 00:39:02.140
  • was, for me, I always wanted to
  • 00:39:02.140 --> 00:39:03.220
  • be in that position where it's,
  • 00:39:03.220 --> 00:39:05.230
  • like, I always wanted to have a
  • 00:39:05.230 --> 00:39:06.270
  • good name among the guys.
  • 00:39:06.270 --> 00:39:08.030
  • I always wanted to be respected
  • 00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:09.270
  • so anytime I can kind of climb
  • 00:39:09.270 --> 00:39:12.000
  • the ladder, if you will, of that
  • 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.250
  • type of dynamic, we did what we
  • 00:39:14.250 --> 00:39:17.090
  • had to do.
  • 00:39:17.090 --> 00:39:18.080
  • Incarcerated to get that
  • 00:39:18.080 --> 00:39:19.240
  • respect.
  • 00:39:19.240 --> 00:39:20.260
  • And to maintain that respect,
  • 00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:23.020
  • because once you get it, you
  • 00:39:23.020 --> 00:39:24.170
  • - David Trujillo: Well, as soon
  • 00:39:33.260 --> 00:39:34.180
  • as I got out of jail, my dad had
  • 00:39:34.180 --> 00:39:35.290
  • moved us out to Rialto to get us
  • 00:39:35.290 --> 00:39:37.140
  • away from gangs.
  • 00:39:37.140 --> 00:39:38.260
  • And my friend, my best friend,
  • 00:39:38.260 --> 00:39:40.140
  • Gumby, was living with me at
  • 00:39:40.140 --> 00:39:41.210
  • that time.
  • 00:39:41.210 --> 00:39:42.230
  • And he began to talk to me about
  • 00:39:42.230 --> 00:39:44.080
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:45.270
  • And to be honest with you, I
  • 00:39:45.270 --> 00:39:47.030
  • didn't wanna hear about Christ.
  • 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:48.050
  • I'd just got out of jail.
  • 00:39:48.050 --> 00:39:48.290
  • I just wanted to party, drink,
  • 00:39:48.290 --> 00:39:50.060
  • and have a great time.
  • 00:39:50.060 --> 00:39:51.110
  • And I told him, "C'mon, dude, I
  • 00:39:51.110 --> 00:39:52.170
  • just wanna party, Holmes.
  • 00:39:52.170 --> 00:39:53.210
  • You know, I just got out, man.
  • 00:39:53.210 --> 00:39:54.210
  • Let's go to the neighborhood and
  • 00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:55.200
  • then, you know, then we'll go to
  • 00:39:55.200 --> 00:39:56.290
  • church, you know."
  • 00:39:56.290 --> 00:39:58.050
  • So he finally agreed to go
  • 00:39:58.050 --> 00:39:59.160
  • with me.
  • 00:39:59.160 --> 00:40:00.210
  • And that day, I remember, it was
  • 00:40:00.210 --> 00:40:02.080
  • Friday night and we ended up
  • 00:40:02.080 --> 00:40:03.220
  • driving to the neighborhood.
  • 00:40:03.220 --> 00:40:04.260
  • And we were having a great time.
  • 00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:06.230
  • And that's where we were
  • 00:40:06.230 --> 00:40:08.050
  • confronted with a rival gang.
  • 00:40:08.050 --> 00:40:09.200
  • And they shot at us.
  • 00:40:09.200 --> 00:40:11.090
  • And I remember, as we were
  • 00:40:11.090 --> 00:40:12.220
  • driving away, hearing the
  • 00:40:12.220 --> 00:40:13.260
  • gunshots, and when I looked
  • 00:40:13.260 --> 00:40:15.060
  • back, I realized that my best
  • 00:40:15.060 --> 00:40:17.130
  • friend was hit in the head and,
  • 00:40:17.130 --> 00:40:19.120
  • because they were hollow-point
  • 00:40:19.120 --> 00:40:20.240
  • bullets, it actually blew up and
  • 00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:21.250
  • his brain was, literally, coming
  • 00:40:21.250 --> 00:40:23.070
  • out of his forehead.
  • 00:40:23.070 --> 00:40:25.110
  • I remember that time, just
  • 00:40:25.110 --> 00:40:26.170
  • thinking, "Oh, my goodness, I
  • 00:40:26.170 --> 00:40:27.150
  • can't believe my best friend
  • 00:40:27.150 --> 00:40:28.210
  • just got hit."
  • 00:40:28.210 --> 00:40:30.010
  • I was scared.
  • 00:40:30.010 --> 00:40:31.060
  • I was--at the same time, I was
  • 00:40:31.060 --> 00:40:32.250
  • hoping that he would not die.
  • 00:40:32.250 --> 00:40:34.180
  • Well, a few days later he ended
  • 00:40:34.180 --> 00:40:36.240
  • up dying.
  • 00:40:36.240 --> 00:40:38.020
  • I was angry.
  • 00:40:38.020 --> 00:40:39.070
  • I was sad.
  • 00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:40.150
  • I was confused.
  • 00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:42.260
  • To be honest with you, I had to
  • 00:40:42.260 --> 00:40:44.070
  • hide that inside.
  • 00:40:44.070 --> 00:40:45.230
  • And to the point where I would
  • 00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:48.000
  • say statements like,
  • 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:48.250
  • "You know what?
  • 00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:49.230
  • Better him than me."
  • 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:50.170
  • But in reality, they were just
  • 00:40:50.170 --> 00:40:51.080
  • lies.
  • 00:40:51.080 --> 00:40:52.030
  • I was just trying to cover the
  • 00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:53.110
  • pain, you know, and not look bad
  • 00:40:53.110 --> 00:40:54.250
  • or like I was a punk to my
  • 00:40:54.250 --> 00:40:56.190
  • friends.
  • 00:40:56.190 --> 00:40:58.050
  • But little did I realize that it
  • 00:40:58.050 --> 00:40:59.130
  • was killing slowly but surely
  • 00:40:59.130 --> 00:41:00.220
  • inside.
  • 00:41:00.220 --> 00:41:03.110
  • - male: When you're growing up,
  • 00:41:03.110 --> 00:41:04.290
  • your elders, your brothers, your
  • 00:41:06.060 --> 00:41:09.060
  • whoever it is, they tell you,
  • 00:41:09.060 --> 00:41:11.030
  • "Men don't cry.
  • 00:41:11.030 --> 00:41:13.140
  • Be a macho man," they tell you.
  • 00:41:18.050 --> 00:41:21.050
  • - David Zamora: We don't say,
  • 00:41:21.050 --> 00:41:22.070
  • you know, "Hey, I feel guilty
  • 00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:23.260
  • about this."
  • 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:24.250
  • That is weakness.
  • 00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:26.090
  • So the guilt that I held on was
  • 00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:28.160
  • internal.
  • 00:41:28.160 --> 00:41:30.040
  • It was in here.
  • 00:41:30.040 --> 00:41:31.050
  • Where it's, like, I know in my
  • 00:41:31.050 --> 00:41:32.160
  • heart I shouldn't have did what
  • 00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:33.220
  • I did or been involved in what
  • 00:41:33.220 --> 00:41:35.090
  • was involved.
  • 00:41:35.090 --> 00:41:37.100
  • I mean, you know, a family is
  • 00:41:37.100 --> 00:41:39.040
  • ruined.
  • 00:41:39.040 --> 00:41:40.110
  • There are people hurting.
  • 00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:43.020
  • When we're out there doing what
  • 00:41:43.020 --> 00:41:43.250
  • we're doing, we're not thinking
  • 00:41:43.250 --> 00:41:44.290
  • about their family.
  • 00:41:44.290 --> 00:41:46.130
  • We're not thinking about their
  • 00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:47.040
  • parents.
  • 00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:48.060
  • We're not thinking about--we're
  • 00:41:48.060 --> 00:41:48.290
  • thinking about the individual
  • 00:41:48.290 --> 00:41:50.100
  • and it's, "We need to deal with
  • 00:41:50.100 --> 00:41:51.160
  • this person."
  • 00:41:51.160 --> 00:41:53.150
  • Ya gotta move on.
  • 00:41:53.150 --> 00:41:55.030
  • You see what I'm saying?
  • 00:41:55.030 --> 00:41:55.220
  • And the quicker you put it
  • 00:41:55.220 --> 00:41:56.250
  • behind you, the quicker you're
  • 00:41:56.250 --> 00:41:57.290
  • able to go forward in that
  • 00:41:57.290 --> 00:41:58.280
  • lifestyle.
  • 00:42:03.230 --> 00:42:06.230
  • - male: A normal person will
  • 00:42:06.230 --> 00:42:08.130
  • tell himself, "You gotta stop
  • 00:42:08.130 --> 00:42:10.130
  • living this kind of life,
  • 00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:12.140
  • the life you're living."
  • 00:42:12.140 --> 00:42:15.010
  • It's a choice.
  • 00:42:15.010 --> 00:42:17.200
  • Person makes a choice in this
  • 00:42:17.200 --> 00:42:18.160
  • - David Zamora: I always have
  • 00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:29.070
  • images of me, you know, kind of
  • 00:42:31.290 --> 00:42:34.290
  • chasing after my dad and he just
  • 00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.010
  • didn't want anything to do
  • 00:42:40.010 --> 00:42:40.260
  • with me.
  • 00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:43.190
  • And so, I mean, literally,
  • 00:42:43.240 --> 00:42:46.240
  • didn't want anything to do with
  • 00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:48.100
  • me.
  • 00:42:48.100 --> 00:42:49.160
  • Even now, when I think about it
  • 00:42:49.160 --> 00:42:50.280
  • on my own, I mean, me and my dad
  • 00:42:51.210 --> 00:42:54.210
  • never really reconciled.
  • 00:42:54.210 --> 00:42:56.070
  • He never really apologized for
  • 00:42:56.070 --> 00:42:57.070
  • that.
  • 00:42:57.070 --> 00:42:58.220
  • And he passed away a couple of
  • 00:42:58.220 --> 00:43:01.000
  • - Tommy: I had some police
  • 00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:20.150
  • contact and I end up, you know,
  • 00:43:20.150 --> 00:43:22.240
  • having some problems with my
  • 00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:24.000
  • parole agent.
  • 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.190
  • I was stealing, I was cheating.
  • 00:43:25.190 --> 00:43:27.200
  • I was just doing what I always
  • 00:43:27.200 --> 00:43:30.150
  • had done.
  • 00:43:30.150 --> 00:43:32.090
  • I go home one day and I
  • 00:43:32.120 --> 00:43:35.120
  • always--my plans were to only be
  • 00:43:35.120 --> 00:43:36.190
  • there for about a half hour, get
  • 00:43:36.190 --> 00:43:38.110
  • some clothing together, and I
  • 00:43:38.110 --> 00:43:39.280
  • was gonna go--I was gonna be
  • 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.260
  • gone again for a couple of
  • 00:43:40.260 --> 00:43:42.160
  • weeks.
  • 00:43:43.240 --> 00:43:46.240
  • Next thing I know, I
  • 00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:48.190
  • turn around and I see police
  • 00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:50.260
  • cars come up and they jump out
  • 00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:52.220
  • and they have guns drawn.
  • 00:43:59.180 --> 00:44:02.200
  • So I'm on the ground.
  • 00:44:02.200 --> 00:44:04.010
  • They get me.
  • 00:44:04.010 --> 00:44:05.040
  • I get put in the back seat of
  • 00:44:05.040 --> 00:44:06.170
  • this police car.
  • 00:44:09.150 --> 00:44:12.150
  • And I'm looking over my shoulder
  • 00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:15.000
  • out of the window and, as I'm in
  • 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.190
  • there, I can see the front of
  • 00:44:17.190 --> 00:44:19.190
  • the house of where we were
  • 00:44:19.190 --> 00:44:21.290
  • living.
  • 00:44:21.290 --> 00:44:23.090
  • And all I can--I can
  • 00:44:23.090 --> 00:44:26.060
  • remember this so clearly.
  • 00:44:26.060 --> 00:44:28.070
  • That my daughter who was about
  • 00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:32.220
  • 5 years old at this time, she
  • 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.280
  • opened up the curtains and she's
  • 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.250
  • at the window and she has her
  • 00:44:37.250 --> 00:44:38.210
  • little palms up on the window
  • 00:44:38.210 --> 00:44:39.290
  • and she's crying.
  • 00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:44.030
  • I couldn't hear her
  • 00:44:44.030 --> 00:44:45.040
  • but I can read her lips and
  • 00:44:45.040 --> 00:44:46.130
  • I--she was just crying and she
  • 00:44:46.130 --> 00:44:49.110
  • was, like, "Daddy! Daddy!"
  • 00:44:50.100 --> 00:44:53.100
  • You know, she was crying for me.
  • 00:44:53.100 --> 00:44:55.040
  • And my wife opened up
  • 00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:56.190
  • the curtain.
  • 00:44:56.190 --> 00:44:57.130
  • She was--she went behind her and
  • 00:44:57.130 --> 00:44:58.290
  • I just saw their hurt and
  • 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.280
  • the disappointment in my wife,
  • 00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:06.150
  • you know.
  • 00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:08.190
  • And I caused it because of this
  • 00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:11.240
  • life that I was choosing to live
  • 00:45:11.240 --> 00:45:13.240
  • for so many years, you know,
  • 00:45:13.240 --> 00:45:16.060
  • so many weeks, so many months,
  • 00:45:16.060 --> 00:45:17.160
  • so many days, so many lies.
  • 00:45:17.160 --> 00:45:19.200
  • And it was on that day, it was
  • 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.000
  • on that day, where I determined
  • 00:45:23.040 --> 00:45:26.040
  • in my heart that I don't wanna
  • 00:45:26.040 --> 00:45:29.010
  • live like this no more.
  • 00:45:29.010 --> 00:45:31.010
  • I wanna change.
  • 00:45:35.290 --> 00:45:38.290
  • I don't ever remember,
  • 00:45:38.290 --> 00:45:40.190
  • as a child, ever someone saying,
  • 00:45:40.190 --> 00:45:43.090
  • "Look, there is hope.
  • 00:45:43.090 --> 00:45:46.060
  • There is a different way.
  • 00:45:46.130 --> 00:45:49.130
  • There is another route."
  • 00:45:49.130 --> 00:45:51.240
  • And because of it, because
  • 00:45:51.240 --> 00:45:53.030
  • I lived without any hope,
  • 00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:56.200
  • - David Zamora: This guy would
  • 00:46:21.060 --> 00:46:21.280
  • tell me about the Lord all the
  • 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:22.190
  • time and he was not the type of
  • 00:46:22.210 --> 00:46:25.210
  • person, you know, most gang
  • 00:46:25.210 --> 00:46:26.290
  • members want another gang member
  • 00:46:26.290 --> 00:46:27.290
  • to share with them,
  • 00:46:27.290 --> 00:46:30.120
  • somebody they can relate to.
  • 00:46:30.120 --> 00:46:31.140
  • This guy, I couldn't have
  • 00:46:31.140 --> 00:46:32.060
  • related to at all.
  • 00:46:32.060 --> 00:46:33.120
  • The only thing was is that he
  • 00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:34.070
  • was in prison and I was in
  • 00:46:34.070 --> 00:46:35.090
  • prison.
  • 00:46:35.090 --> 00:46:36.110
  • And this guy was a genuine
  • 00:46:36.110 --> 00:46:37.250
  • Christian so he would always
  • 00:46:37.250 --> 00:46:39.060
  • tell me about Jesus.
  • 00:46:39.060 --> 00:46:42.030
  • He had a twang in his voice, you
  • 00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:43.230
  • know, so he'd talk like a hick,
  • 00:46:43.230 --> 00:46:45.080
  • you know?
  • 00:46:45.080 --> 00:46:46.070
  • And I used to get a kick out of
  • 00:46:46.070 --> 00:46:47.010
  • his voice.
  • 00:46:47.010 --> 00:46:47.270
  • So when I would see him and I'd
  • 00:46:47.270 --> 00:46:49.050
  • be with my homies on the prison
  • 00:46:49.050 --> 00:46:50.180
  • yard, I would call him over and
  • 00:46:50.180 --> 00:46:52.130
  • I'd be, like--I'd tell the main
  • 00:46:52.130 --> 00:46:53.290
  • man, "Trip out on how this dude
  • 00:46:53.290 --> 00:46:55.000
  • talks," you know.
  • 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:56.110
  • And he would come up and then I
  • 00:46:56.110 --> 00:46:58.200
  • would say, "Man, tell us about
  • 00:46:58.200 --> 00:47:00.090
  • Jesus," you know.
  • 00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:01.170
  • And he would start, you know,
  • 00:47:01.170 --> 00:47:02.160
  • "Jesus loves you."
  • 00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:03.220
  • You know, so we would get a kick
  • 00:47:03.220 --> 00:47:04.140
  • out of it.
  • 00:47:04.140 --> 00:47:05.110
  • I remember one day, he tells me,
  • 00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:07.070
  • he says, "Hey, I'm not gonna
  • 00:47:07.070 --> 00:47:09.040
  • tell you about Jesus no more."
  • 00:47:09.040 --> 00:47:11.010
  • I started laughing and he goes,
  • 00:47:11.010 --> 00:47:12.060
  • "What are you laughing at?"
  • 00:47:12.060 --> 00:47:13.070
  • And I says, "Are you serious?"
  • 00:47:13.070 --> 00:47:14.030
  • And he goes, like, "Yeah."
  • 00:47:14.030 --> 00:47:15.110
  • He goes, "I've told you
  • 00:47:15.110 --> 00:47:15.290
  • everything you need to know."
  • 00:47:15.290 --> 00:47:17.060
  • He goes, "You have to make
  • 00:47:17.060 --> 00:47:18.070
  • a decision."
  • 00:47:18.070 --> 00:47:19.140
  • And I told him, I go, "I can't
  • 00:47:19.140 --> 00:47:20.050
  • be a Christian in here, man.
  • 00:47:20.050 --> 00:47:21.140
  • You know that I can't.
  • 00:47:21.140 --> 00:47:23.030
  • I mean, I'm in prison,
  • 00:47:23.030 --> 00:47:24.050
  • I'm doing time."
  • 00:47:24.050 --> 00:47:25.030
  • And he said I can, you know.
  • 00:47:25.030 --> 00:47:27.060
  • He goes, "Well, if God can do
  • 00:47:27.060 --> 00:47:29.190
  • anything for you, what would
  • 00:47:29.190 --> 00:47:30.290
  • that be?
  • 00:47:30.290 --> 00:47:31.280
  • You know, if he could do one
  • 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.180
  • thing for you, what would that
  • 00:47:32.180 --> 00:47:33.100
  • be?"
  • 00:47:33.100 --> 00:47:33.270
  • And I says, "If he could take
  • 00:47:36.140 --> 00:47:39.140
  • this drug addiction from me."
  • 00:47:39.140 --> 00:47:41.170
  • It's the first time in my life
  • 00:47:41.170 --> 00:47:42.230
  • I ever got serious.
  • 00:47:42.230 --> 00:47:43.220
  • And I said, "If he could take
  • 00:47:43.220 --> 00:47:44.140
  • this drug addiction."
  • 00:47:44.140 --> 00:47:45.060
  • I was a dope fiend.
  • 00:47:45.060 --> 00:47:46.070
  • Oh man, the stories I could
  • 00:47:46.070 --> 00:47:47.000
  • tell you.
  • 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:47.190
  • I mean, I was a dope fiend.
  • 00:47:47.190 --> 00:47:49.000
  • I shot up dope, I cooked dope.
  • 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:50.050
  • You know, that kind of stuff.
  • 00:47:50.050 --> 00:47:51.200
  • I mean, it was just--I was a
  • 00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:53.140
  • dope fiend.
  • 00:47:53.140 --> 00:47:54.090
  • It's what I lived for, getting
  • 00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:55.080
  • high.
  • 00:47:55.080 --> 00:47:56.060
  • There was nobody else there.
  • 00:47:56.060 --> 00:47:57.150
  • I was vulnerable in front of
  • 00:47:57.150 --> 00:47:58.110
  • this guy.
  • 00:47:58.110 --> 00:47:59.080
  • And he just said this.
  • 00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:01.280
  • "If God were to take that from
  • 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.130
  • you," it's what he told me.
  • 00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:04.180
  • "If God were to take that from
  • 00:48:04.180 --> 00:48:05.230
  • you, would you serve him?"
  • 00:48:05.290 --> 00:48:08.290
  • And I looked at him and I used
  • 00:48:08.290 --> 00:48:11.280
  • to call him, "Caveman."
  • 00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.050
  • He was a big old guy.
  • 00:48:13.050 --> 00:48:14.130
  • And I says, "You know what,
  • 00:48:14.130 --> 00:48:15.030
  • Caveman, if you took it from me,
  • 00:48:15.030 --> 00:48:16.280
  • I would serve you."
  • 00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.150
  • And that's what I told him.
  • 00:48:19.150 --> 00:48:20.280
  • And he told me, "Well, what have
  • 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:21.200
  • you got to lose?"
  • 00:48:21.200 --> 00:48:23.000
  • And I says, "What do you mean?"
  • 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:23.270
  • He goes, "Well, what do you have
  • 00:48:23.270 --> 00:48:24.250
  • to lose?"
  • 00:48:24.250 --> 00:48:27.020
  • I says, "I don't understand."
  • 00:48:27.020 --> 00:48:28.230
  • He goes, "All you gotta do is
  • 00:48:28.230 --> 00:48:30.030
  • ask God to do it."
  • 00:48:30.030 --> 00:48:31.190
  • And so I said, "Okay."
  • 00:48:31.190 --> 00:48:34.020
  • And I just left it alone.
  • 00:48:34.020 --> 00:48:36.140
  • We ended the conversation and I
  • 00:48:36.140 --> 00:48:37.260
  • remember going back and laying
  • 00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:38.230
  • down.
  • 00:48:38.230 --> 00:48:39.230
  • And that was probably the most I
  • 00:48:39.230 --> 00:48:40.290
  • can say in my whole entire life,
  • 00:48:40.290 --> 00:48:43.190
  • that was probably the first--I
  • 00:48:44.010 --> 00:48:47.010
  • was 20 years old.
  • 00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:48.120
  • That was probably the first time
  • 00:48:48.120 --> 00:48:50.010
  • I had ever had a serious
  • 00:48:50.010 --> 00:48:52.020
  • conversation about me ever.
  • 00:48:53.170 --> 00:48:56.170
  • Ever.
  • 00:48:56.170 --> 00:48:59.020
  • And I remember, you know,
  • 00:48:59.020 --> 00:49:01.280
  • thinking to myself, like,
  • 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.000
  • "Okay."
  • 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.020
  • So I just said, "God, if you're
  • 00:49:06.020 --> 00:49:07.240
  • the God of the Bible, if you're
  • 00:49:07.240 --> 00:49:09.160
  • the God that this man says you
  • 00:49:09.160 --> 00:49:10.240
  • are.
  • 00:49:10.240 --> 00:49:11.170
  • If you're the God that my mom
  • 00:49:11.170 --> 00:49:12.100
  • says you are, then take this
  • 00:49:12.100 --> 00:49:13.250
  • drug addiction from me and I'll
  • 00:49:13.250 --> 00:49:14.290
  • give you the rest of my life.
  • 00:49:14.290 --> 00:49:16.130
  • And if you don't, I don't need
  • 00:49:16.130 --> 00:49:17.140
  • you in my life and I'll die a
  • 00:49:17.140 --> 00:49:18.080
  • dope fiend."
  • 00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:19.240
  • And that was it.
  • 00:49:19.240 --> 00:49:21.290
  • And the next day I woke up and
  • 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:26.000
  • I've never touched another
  • 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.220
  • needle since, man.
  • 00:49:27.220 --> 00:49:29.110
  • No withdrawals.
  • 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.280
  • - Tommy: First person I called
  • 00:50:36.180 --> 00:50:37.200
  • when I got out of that jail
  • 00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:39.000
  • was my wife.
  • 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:40.140
  • And I called her to come
  • 00:50:40.140 --> 00:50:41.200
  • pick me up.
  • 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:42.270
  • And so she came to pick me up.
  • 00:50:42.270 --> 00:50:44.050
  • It was around 6 o'clock that
  • 00:50:44.050 --> 00:50:44.290
  • morning.
  • 00:50:44.290 --> 00:50:46.020
  • And I start telling her what's
  • 00:50:46.020 --> 00:50:46.240
  • happening and she starts to tell
  • 00:50:46.240 --> 00:50:48.020
  • me that she was at a prayer
  • 00:50:48.180 --> 00:50:51.180
  • meeting for women that day.
  • 00:50:51.180 --> 00:50:53.280
  • And their prayer was for me
  • 00:50:56.130 --> 00:50:59.130
  • to know that God is real.
  • 00:51:00.050 --> 00:51:03.050
  • They were praying, "God, would
  • 00:51:03.050 --> 00:51:04.190
  • you present yourself to Tommy,
  • 00:51:04.190 --> 00:51:06.170
  • that he would know that you're
  • 00:51:06.170 --> 00:51:07.160
  • real, that you love him."
  • 00:51:07.160 --> 00:51:08.290
  • I was just, like, "Wow!"
  • 00:51:08.290 --> 00:51:10.060
  • You know, "This is amazing,
  • 00:51:10.060 --> 00:51:11.290
  • God is real."
  • 00:51:11.290 --> 00:51:13.170
  • - Jose Hernandez: We were at
  • 00:51:13.170 --> 00:51:14.080
  • a sunrise service at Cerritos
  • 00:51:14.080 --> 00:51:16.170
  • Stadium at Cerritos College,
  • 00:51:16.170 --> 00:51:19.150
  • with Calvary Chapel, Downey.
  • 00:51:19.150 --> 00:51:22.020
  • And so I'm getting that tugging
  • 00:51:22.020 --> 00:51:24.230
  • on the heart and I was hesitant
  • 00:51:26.150 --> 00:51:29.150
  • but I remember that day going
  • 00:51:29.150 --> 00:51:31.090
  • forward, and I remember that it
  • 00:51:31.090 --> 00:51:33.290
  • was that day where I realized
  • 00:51:33.290 --> 00:51:35.190
  • that I began to really walk
  • 00:51:35.190 --> 00:51:37.080
  • with the Lord.
  • 00:51:37.080 --> 00:51:38.070
  • And he began to walk with me.
  • 00:51:38.070 --> 00:51:39.210
  • - Tommy: And it's as if
  • 00:51:39.210 --> 00:51:41.020
  • every word is just for me.
  • 00:51:42.010 --> 00:51:45.010
  • Like, how did you know that?
  • 00:51:45.070 --> 00:51:48.070
  • How did you know that I felt
  • 00:51:48.070 --> 00:51:49.100
  • this?
  • 00:51:49.100 --> 00:51:50.040
  • How did you know that I needed
  • 00:51:50.040 --> 00:51:51.210
  • to hear that?
  • 00:51:51.210 --> 00:51:53.030
  • How did you know all these
  • 00:51:53.030 --> 00:51:54.140
  • things?
  • 00:51:54.140 --> 00:51:54.290
  • And you know what?
  • 00:51:54.290 --> 00:51:55.220
  • I know that that was God.
  • 00:51:55.220 --> 00:51:57.140
  • I felt like I just wanted to
  • 00:51:57.140 --> 00:51:58.070
  • bawl and cry and just ask God to
  • 00:51:58.070 --> 00:52:00.150
  • forgive me for all the things
  • 00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:01.240
  • that I've done to my family,
  • 00:52:01.240 --> 00:52:03.000
  • especially and to my wife and
  • 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:04.260
  • how I've lied and how I've
  • 00:52:04.260 --> 00:52:06.070
  • treated her and just the things
  • 00:52:06.070 --> 00:52:07.180
  • that I've done and who I had
  • 00:52:07.180 --> 00:52:08.240
  • become.
  • 00:52:08.240 --> 00:52:10.060
  • I just wanted to be sorry to
  • 00:52:10.060 --> 00:52:11.140
  • God.
  • 00:52:11.140 --> 00:52:12.250
  • I can remember, I never said a
  • 00:52:12.250 --> 00:52:13.160
  • sinner's prayer but I do
  • 00:52:13.160 --> 00:52:14.220
  • remember this.
  • 00:52:14.220 --> 00:52:15.260
  • I do remember saying, "God, I'm
  • 00:52:15.260 --> 00:52:16.290
  • sorry, I'm sorry."
  • 00:52:16.290 --> 00:52:17.290
  • And I'm crying, man.
  • 00:52:17.290 --> 00:52:18.290
  • It was emotional.
  • 00:52:18.290 --> 00:52:20.190
  • It was the day that my life
  • 00:52:20.190 --> 00:52:22.000
  • changed and I'm there and I keep
  • 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.270
  • on saying, "I'm sorry, God."
  • 00:52:23.270 --> 00:52:25.050
  • And it was as if God was just
  • 00:52:25.050 --> 00:52:26.160
  • deleting those sins that was
  • 00:52:26.160 --> 00:52:28.160
  • flashing before my mind.
  • 00:52:28.230 --> 00:52:31.230
  • And God has--I walked out of
  • 00:52:31.230 --> 00:52:33.100
  • that church, knowing that I was
  • 00:52:33.100 --> 00:52:34.250
  • forgiven.
  • 00:52:34.250 --> 00:52:36.030
  • - David Zamora: For years of my
  • 00:52:36.030 --> 00:52:37.060
  • life and in the gang lifestyle,
  • 00:52:37.060 --> 00:52:39.030
  • and in my addiction, I lived
  • 00:52:39.030 --> 00:52:40.230
  • with a guilt for so many years.
  • 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.000
  • And I could honestly say that
  • 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:47.140
  • now, I have no guilt at all
  • 00:52:47.140 --> 00:52:50.010
  • whatsoever.
  • 00:52:50.010 --> 00:52:51.060
  • - Brian: These guys, to me,
  • 00:52:51.060 --> 00:52:52.090
  • they're a good testimony to
  • 00:52:52.090 --> 00:52:54.160
  • God's existence because I don't
  • 00:52:55.040 --> 00:52:58.040
  • think you can explain who they
  • 00:52:58.040 --> 00:53:00.180
  • were and who they are today
  • 00:53:00.210 --> 00:53:03.210
  • psychologically or
  • 00:53:03.210 --> 00:53:06.040
  • sociologically.
  • 00:53:06.040 --> 00:53:08.020
  • I think the explanation is
  • 00:53:08.020 --> 00:53:09.140
  • really theological.
  • 00:53:09.140 --> 00:53:10.200
  • I think the explanation is
  • 00:53:10.200 --> 00:53:11.270
  • really God's the one who's
  • 00:53:12.020 --> 00:53:15.020
  • brought about the radical
  • 00:53:15.020 --> 00:53:17.060
  • transformation in the lives of
  • 00:53:17.060 --> 00:53:18.120
  • these guys.
  • 00:53:18.120 --> 00:53:19.150
  • So to me, their stories are just
  • 00:53:19.150 --> 00:53:22.120
  • another proof that there
  • 00:53:22.120 --> 00:53:24.210
  • - David Trujillo: Once I got
  • 00:53:35.120 --> 00:53:36.070
  • saved, God began to use me.
  • 00:53:36.070 --> 00:53:37.260
  • I began to do Bible studies and,
  • 00:53:37.260 --> 00:53:39.160
  • in it, I could see myself
  • 00:53:39.160 --> 00:53:40.130
  • getting closer and closer to
  • 00:53:40.130 --> 00:53:41.260
  • the Lord.
  • 00:53:41.260 --> 00:53:42.230
  • But little did I realize that
  • 00:53:42.230 --> 00:53:44.000
  • time for testing came, right?
  • 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.270
  • The Lord had to test me to see
  • 00:53:46.270 --> 00:53:48.040
  • whether, you know,
  • 00:53:48.040 --> 00:53:49.000
  • I was true or not.
  • 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:49.270
  • And this happened when
  • 00:53:49.270 --> 00:53:51.100
  • my brother got shot.
  • 00:53:51.100 --> 00:53:53.060
  • So when I was going to the
  • 00:53:53.060 --> 00:53:54.130
  • hospital and seeing my brother
  • 00:53:54.130 --> 00:53:55.100
  • there, and then, tell my
  • 00:53:55.100 --> 00:53:57.040
  • bro, "You need to tell me
  • 00:53:57.040 --> 00:53:58.040
  • who shot you."
  • 00:53:58.040 --> 00:53:58.230
  • And he says, "No, bro, 'cause I
  • 00:53:58.230 --> 00:53:59.150
  • know you."
  • 00:53:59.150 --> 00:54:00.150
  • So he made me promise him that I
  • 00:54:00.150 --> 00:54:01.280
  • wasn't gonna do nothing stupid
  • 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.290
  • but I didn't keep my promise.
  • 00:54:03.290 --> 00:54:06.040
  • After he finally, you know, he
  • 00:54:06.040 --> 00:54:07.060
  • told me who it was.
  • 00:54:07.060 --> 00:54:09.140
  • But to be honest with you, I was
  • 00:54:09.140 --> 00:54:10.100
  • fighting within myself.
  • 00:54:10.100 --> 00:54:11.180
  • There was a spiritual battle
  • 00:54:11.180 --> 00:54:13.020
  • that was going on, you know.
  • 00:54:13.020 --> 00:54:14.130
  • The guy that God had made me was
  • 00:54:14.130 --> 00:54:17.070
  • trying to do what was honoring
  • 00:54:17.070 --> 00:54:18.120
  • to the Lord but my old self
  • 00:54:18.120 --> 00:54:19.270
  • wanted to go back and pay
  • 00:54:19.270 --> 00:54:22.100
  • the guy back, you know, for what
  • 00:54:22.100 --> 00:54:23.170
  • he did to my brother.
  • 00:54:23.170 --> 00:54:25.030
  • I didn't have no weapon so I
  • 00:54:25.030 --> 00:54:27.120
  • picked up an old screwdriver and
  • 00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:28.170
  • I kind of sharpened it up on the
  • 00:54:28.170 --> 00:54:29.150
  • ground, put it in my back
  • 00:54:29.150 --> 00:54:31.000
  • pocket, went to this guy's
  • 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:32.170
  • house, and in my mind, I'm
  • 00:54:32.170 --> 00:54:34.110
  • trying to diss him, trying to
  • 00:54:34.110 --> 00:54:35.200
  • disrespect him, but I couldn't.
  • 00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:36.190
  • So he realized who we were so he
  • 00:54:36.190 --> 00:54:38.210
  • started disrespecting my
  • 00:54:38.210 --> 00:54:39.250
  • neighborhood but all I could say
  • 00:54:39.250 --> 00:54:41.050
  • was, "Look, man, this is my
  • 00:54:41.050 --> 00:54:42.180
  • brother.
  • 00:54:42.180 --> 00:54:43.070
  • You shot him.
  • 00:54:43.070 --> 00:54:43.240
  • He almost died.
  • 00:54:43.240 --> 00:54:44.160
  • I went to your house.
  • 00:54:44.160 --> 00:54:45.110
  • I was gonna stab you
  • 00:54:45.110 --> 00:54:46.060
  • but God stopped me."
  • 00:54:46.060 --> 00:54:47.220
  • All I can do is share the gospel
  • 00:54:47.220 --> 00:54:49.150
  • with him and I started crying.
  • 00:54:51.140 --> 00:54:54.140
  • So a few years later, I remember
  • 00:54:54.140 --> 00:54:56.240
  • we were at a social security
  • 00:54:56.240 --> 00:54:59.030
  • office and the Lord again had to
  • 00:54:59.030 --> 00:55:01.020
  • test me once again.
  • 00:55:01.020 --> 00:55:02.230
  • And this time, I remember as he
  • 00:55:02.230 --> 00:55:04.240
  • was making his way towards me I
  • 00:55:04.240 --> 00:55:06.130
  • recognized who he was and, as my
  • 00:55:06.130 --> 00:55:08.020
  • brother told me, "Hey, that's
  • 00:55:08.020 --> 00:55:09.060
  • the guy who shot me," I remember
  • 00:55:09.060 --> 00:55:10.220
  • thinking, "You know what?
  • 00:55:10.220 --> 00:55:11.290
  • I don't care.
  • 00:55:11.290 --> 00:55:12.230
  • This time I'm gonna just throw
  • 00:55:12.230 --> 00:55:13.140
  • down with him."
  • 00:55:13.140 --> 00:55:14.130
  • And the Lord was trying to again
  • 00:55:14.130 --> 00:55:15.120
  • get my attention but I wouldn't
  • 00:55:15.120 --> 00:55:16.280
  • listen.
  • 00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:17.250
  • So as he made his way up to me,
  • 00:55:17.250 --> 00:55:19.160
  • and he stood before me,
  • 00:55:19.160 --> 00:55:22.050
  • I remember telling him,
  • 00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:23.000
  • "What's up?"
  • 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:23.200
  • You know, "What's up, dude?"
  • 00:55:23.200 --> 00:55:24.150
  • You know, type of thing.
  • 00:55:24.150 --> 00:55:25.280
  • And he said, like, "Dude,
  • 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:26.250
  • calm down, calm down, man.
  • 00:55:26.250 --> 00:55:27.210
  • I've been looking for you."
  • 00:55:27.210 --> 00:55:28.270
  • And I was, like, "Well, you
  • 00:55:28.270 --> 00:55:29.240
  • don't have to look any further,
  • 00:55:29.240 --> 00:55:30.180
  • man.
  • 00:55:30.180 --> 00:55:31.050
  • I'm right here.
  • 00:55:31.050 --> 00:55:31.200
  • What's up?"
  • 00:55:31.200 --> 00:55:32.090
  • And he tells me, "Calm down,
  • 00:55:32.090 --> 00:55:32.290
  • man.
  • 00:55:32.290 --> 00:55:34.020
  • I just wanna--I was looking for
  • 00:55:34.020 --> 00:55:34.270
  • you because I wanna tell you,
  • 00:55:34.270 --> 00:55:35.280
  • 'Thank you.'"
  • 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:36.270
  • And I was, like, "What?"
  • 00:55:36.270 --> 00:55:38.030
  • He goes, "Yeah.
  • 00:55:38.030 --> 00:55:38.220
  • I been looking for you 'cause I
  • 00:55:38.220 --> 00:55:39.140
  • wanna tell you, 'Thank you,'
  • 00:55:39.140 --> 00:55:40.040
  • see?"
  • 00:55:40.040 --> 00:55:40.200
  • He goes, that day, after I
  • 00:55:40.200 --> 00:55:42.010
  • shared the gospel, he said that
  • 00:55:42.010 --> 00:55:43.040
  • he went home and when he was
  • 00:55:43.040 --> 00:55:44.130
  • home he was thinking about the
  • 00:55:44.130 --> 00:55:45.100
  • things that I had shared.
  • 00:55:45.100 --> 00:55:47.010
  • He said that his curiosity got
  • 00:55:47.010 --> 00:55:48.000
  • the best of him and that he
  • 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.050
  • actually went to a church, you
  • 00:55:49.050 --> 00:55:50.150
  • know, to find out what I was
  • 00:55:50.150 --> 00:55:52.010
  • talking about, gave his life to
  • 00:55:52.010 --> 00:55:53.200
  • the Lord, and for the last 2-1/2
  • 00:55:53.200 --> 00:55:55.130
  • years, he was looking for me
  • 00:55:55.130 --> 00:55:56.250
  • so that he can share with me
  • 00:55:56.250 --> 00:55:58.050
  • that God saved him and now
  • 00:55:58.050 --> 00:55:59.090
  • he's become a missionary.
  • 00:55:59.090 --> 00:56:01.090
  • Well, I remember, man, it was
  • 00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:02.070
  • crazy 'cause at that moment all
  • 00:56:02.070 --> 00:56:03.220
  • my toughness, all my gangster
  • 00:56:03.220 --> 00:56:05.060
  • mad dogs went away and I
  • 00:56:05.060 --> 00:56:06.190
  • remember just kinda saying,
  • 00:56:06.190 --> 00:56:07.270
  • "Oh, that's awesome, bro."
  • 00:56:07.270 --> 00:56:09.040
  • And we started hugging and stuff
  • 00:56:09.040 --> 00:56:10.000
  • and we exchanged numbers and
  • 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:11.140
  • stuff and, you know what?
  • 00:56:11.140 --> 00:56:12.270
  • The guy takes off.
  • 00:56:12.270 --> 00:56:14.060
  • Me and my brother are, like,
  • 00:56:14.060 --> 00:56:15.020
  • "Oh, I can't believe this guy
  • 00:56:15.020 --> 00:56:15.240
  • got saved, you know?"
  • 00:56:15.240 --> 00:56:16.210
  • And all this stuff.
  • 00:56:16.210 --> 00:56:17.140
  • And I remember looking at my
  • 00:56:17.140 --> 00:56:18.110
  • brother and I can see that he
  • 00:56:18.110 --> 00:56:19.120
  • was kind of disturbed.
  • 00:56:19.120 --> 00:56:20.230
  • And the reason why because
  • 00:56:20.230 --> 00:56:22.050
  • he was the one that had gotten
  • 00:56:22.050 --> 00:56:23.090
  • shot, not me.
  • 00:56:23.090 --> 00:56:24.200
  • But I remember turning to him
  • 00:56:24.200 --> 00:56:25.190
  • and he kind of turned to me and
  • 00:56:25.190 --> 00:56:27.040
  • he told me, "Man, bro."
  • 00:56:27.040 --> 00:56:28.150
  • He's all like, "I can't believe
  • 00:56:28.150 --> 00:56:29.180
  • that the guy who almost killed
  • 00:56:29.180 --> 00:56:30.280
  • me," he's like, "I have his
  • 00:56:30.280 --> 00:56:32.090
  • number on my phone."
  • 00:56:32.090 --> 00:56:33.200
  • - Brian: God reached down to
  • 00:56:33.200 --> 00:56:35.140
  • where these guys were at.
  • 00:56:35.140 --> 00:56:38.000
  • You know, these guys didn't just
  • 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.000
  • get up one day and go clean up
  • 00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:41.010
  • their lives and think, "Okay,
  • 00:56:41.010 --> 00:56:42.020
  • now, God, you know,
  • 00:56:42.020 --> 00:56:43.190
  • let's do business.
  • 00:56:43.190 --> 00:56:44.290
  • I'm--here I am.
  • 00:56:44.290 --> 00:56:46.100
  • You know, I'm doing good.
  • 00:56:46.100 --> 00:56:47.110
  • I'm clean."
  • 00:56:47.110 --> 00:56:48.070
  • These guys were in the pit.
  • 00:56:48.070 --> 00:56:49.210
  • But God was reaching down to
  • 00:56:49.210 --> 00:56:50.270
  • them.
  • 00:56:50.270 --> 00:56:52.020
  • - David Rosales: When we're
  • 00:56:52.020 --> 00:56:53.060
  • caught up with, "My needs need
  • 00:56:53.060 --> 00:56:54.250
  • to be met," you know, there's
  • 00:56:54.250 --> 00:56:56.190
  • nobody who can meet my needs
  • 00:56:56.190 --> 00:56:57.200
  • like I need 'em met, nobody.
  • 00:56:57.200 --> 00:57:00.200
  • There's only one person who can.
  • 00:57:00.200 --> 00:57:01.130
  • That's Jesus Christ.
  • 00:57:01.130 --> 00:57:02.220
  • Jesus can love me as much as I
  • 00:57:02.220 --> 00:57:04.160
  • need to be loved.
  • 00:57:04.160 --> 00:57:05.260
  • Even my wife or closest friends
  • 00:57:05.260 --> 00:57:07.180
  • can not love me as much as I
  • 00:57:07.180 --> 00:57:10.010
  • need to be loved.
  • 00:57:10.010 --> 00:57:11.160
  • Only God can and he has
  • 00:57:11.160 --> 00:57:12.270
  • an inexhaustible love.
  • 00:57:12.270 --> 00:57:15.180
  • - Jose Hernandez: This is
  • 00:57:15.180 --> 00:57:16.070
  • something more passionate,
  • 00:57:16.070 --> 00:57:17.020
  • more real.
  • 00:57:17.020 --> 00:57:18.030
  • You know, what we grew up
  • 00:57:18.030 --> 00:57:18.280
  • thinking is totally farfetched.
  • 00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:20.220
  • It's not reality.
  • 00:57:20.220 --> 00:57:23.000
  • Jesus Christ is reality.
  • 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.290
  • - male: I've been serving the
  • 00:57:24.290 --> 00:57:25.210
  • Lord strong since 2011 since
  • 00:57:25.210 --> 00:57:27.000
  • I got out and just, it's
  • 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:28.280
  • wonderful, you know.
  • 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:31.040
  • Now I know why I needed so much
  • 00:57:31.040 --> 00:57:32.070
  • chaos before.
  • 00:57:32.070 --> 00:57:33.220
  • It's 'cause I didn't have him.
  • 00:57:33.220 --> 00:57:35.080
  • Yeah.
  • 00:57:35.080 --> 00:57:36.210
  • - David Zamora: That's good.
  • 00:57:36.210 --> 00:57:37.200
  • - David Rosales: You need the
  • 00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:38.110
  • love of Christ.
  • 00:57:38.110 --> 00:57:39.170
  • You need a God who laid his--he
  • 00:57:39.170 --> 00:57:41.190
  • had his--his Son laid his life
  • 00:57:41.190 --> 00:57:43.090
  • down for you.
  • 00:57:43.090 --> 00:57:44.220
  • You need to know that your sins
  • 00:57:44.220 --> 00:57:46.050
  • can be forgiven.
  • 00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:47.100
  • Everybody does.
  • 00:57:47.100 --> 00:57:48.250
  • Everybody needs to know that.
  • 00:57:48.250 --> 00:57:50.080
  • You need to know that God
  • 00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:51.280
  • demonstrated his love toward us
  • 00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:53.230
  • and that while we were yet
  • 00:57:53.230 --> 00:57:54.230
  • sinners, Christ died on the
  • 00:57:54.230 --> 00:57:55.190
  • cross for us.
  • 00:57:55.190 --> 00:57:56.250
  • You need to know that you don't
  • 00:57:56.250 --> 00:57:58.080
  • deserve that.
  • 00:57:58.080 --> 00:57:59.140
  • You can't buy it.
  • 00:57:59.140 --> 00:58:01.030
  • You can't be religious and get
  • 00:58:01.030 --> 00:58:02.060
  • it.
  • 00:58:02.060 --> 00:58:03.070
  • It doesn't matter if your mother
  • 00:58:03.070 --> 00:58:04.150
  • and your father were very
  • 00:58:04.150 --> 00:58:05.160
  • religious because God doesn't
  • 00:58:05.160 --> 00:58:07.140
  • have any grandchildren.
  • 00:58:07.140 --> 00:58:08.290
  • It has to be something you
  • 00:58:08.290 --> 00:58:10.250
  • personally embrace yourself.
  • 00:58:10.250 --> 00:58:13.020
  • You need to know that you're
  • 00:58:13.020 --> 00:58:14.170
  • a sinner that is lost
  • 00:58:14.170 --> 00:58:16.000
  • but God loves you.
  • 00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:17.090
  • He sent his Son to die on
  • 00:58:17.090 --> 00:58:18.040
  • a cross for you.
  • 00:58:18.040 --> 00:58:19.040
  • And you need to know that it
  • 00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:20.120
  • doesn't really matter what your
  • 00:58:20.120 --> 00:58:21.210
  • background is and it doesn't
  • 00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:23.030
  • matter what you've done.
  • 00:58:23.030 --> 00:58:24.150
  • We all equally need
  • 00:58:24.150 --> 00:58:25.200
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 00:58:25.200 --> 00:58:27.060
  • And so we all come to Christ
  • 00:58:27.060 --> 00:58:29.030
  • in the same way.
  • 00:58:29.030 --> 00:58:30.060
  • We have to humble ourselves.
  • 00:58:30.060 --> 00:58:31.290
  • We mourn over our sins.
  • 00:58:31.290 --> 00:58:34.140
  • We ask for God's forgiveness.
  • 00:58:34.140 --> 00:58:36.030
  • We're washed and cleansed.
  • 00:58:36.030 --> 00:58:38.010
  • And then he puts us in whatever
  • 00:58:38.010 --> 00:58:39.120
  • environment he wants us in that
  • 00:58:39.120 --> 00:58:41.020
  • we can use the gifts and
  • 00:58:41.020 --> 00:58:42.170
  • training he's given to us to
  • 00:58:42.170 --> 00:58:44.020
  • reach as many people as we can.
  • 00:58:44.020 --> 00:58:46.210
  • - Brian: God loves you and he
  • 00:58:46.210 --> 00:58:48.260
  • has a plan.
  • 00:58:48.260 --> 00:58:50.010
  • He has a purpose.
  • 00:58:50.010 --> 00:58:50.240
  • He wants to take your life and
  • 00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:52.090
  • make something beautiful out of
  • 00:58:52.090 --> 00:58:54.020
  • it.
  • 00:58:54.020 --> 00:58:55.010
  • And it's a personal thing.
  • 00:58:55.010 --> 00:58:57.060
  • It starts with you personally,
  • 00:58:57.060 --> 00:58:59.000
  • connecting with him, through
  • 00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:00.180
  • believing in his Son and, man,
  • 00:59:00.180 --> 00:59:02.260
  • from there, the sky's the limit
  • 00:59:02.260 --> 00:59:04.080
  • what God wants to do.
  • 00:59:04.080 --> 00:59:05.240
  • - Tommy: God does miracles.
  • 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.000
  • God changes people's lives.
  • 00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:13.150
  • And he fixes things.
  • 00:59:13.150 --> 00:59:16.150
  • I live my life now, not for
  • 00:59:16.150 --> 00:59:18.000
  • status, not because I wanna be
  • 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:19.290
  • known.
  • 00:59:19.290 --> 00:59:21.000
  • It's because I wanna make Jesus
  • 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:21.260
  • known.
  • 00:59:21.260 --> 00:59:23.100
  • And I see all those things that
  • 00:59:23.100 --> 00:59:24.270
  • happened to me and when I was a
  • 00:59:24.270 --> 00:59:26.160
  • child.
  • 00:59:26.160 --> 00:59:27.120
  • I'm able to forgive, you know,
  • 00:59:27.120 --> 00:59:29.110
  • that person who molested me.
  • 00:59:29.110 --> 00:59:31.000
  • What the devil intended for
  • 00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:32.180
  • evil, God has turned it all
  • 00:59:32.180 --> 00:59:34.290
  • around for his good.
  • 00:59:34.290 --> 00:59:36.260
  • That's who God is.
  • 00:59:36.260 --> 00:59:38.150
  • He makes people's lives
  • 00:59:38.150 --> 00:59:41.140
  • beautiful when we surrender to
  • 00:59:41.140 --> 00:59:43.010
  • him completely, you know, and
  • 00:59:43.010 --> 00:59:45.050
  • which is a beautiful thing.
  • 00:59:45.050 --> 00:59:47.180
  • He's a beautiful God.
  • 00:59:47.180 --> 00:59:48.280
  • - David Zamora: There's no
  • 00:59:48.280 --> 00:59:50.040
  • turning back.
  • 00:59:50.040 --> 00:59:51.130
  • Wherever God points, I'll go.
  • 00:59:51.130 --> 00:59:53.130
  • Whatever the Word of God says to
  • 00:59:53.130 --> 00:59:55.040
  • do, obviously, to glorify the
  • 00:59:55.040 --> 00:59:57.090
  • name of the Lord is what I'll
  • 00:59:57.090 --> 00:59:58.150
  • do.
  • 00:59:58.150 --> 00:59:59.200
  • This is my life.
  • 00:59:59.200 --> 01:00:01.160
  • And so I guess you could say, I
  • 01:00:01.160 --> 01:00:03.210
  • went from one extreme to
  • 01:00:03.210 --> 01:00:05.120
  • another.
  • 01:00:05.120 --> 01:00:07.080
  • - David Trujillo: I'm grateful.
  • 01:00:07.080 --> 01:00:08.120
  • You know, I'm grateful that he
  • 01:00:11.180 --> 01:00:14.180
  • got in my life and kept me from
  • 01:00:14.180 --> 01:00:16.170
  • doing things that I would have
  • 01:00:16.170 --> 01:00:17.200
  • regret.
  • 01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:20.030
  • You know, I probably wouldn't be
  • 01:00:20.030 --> 01:00:20.250
  • here today, you know?
  • 01:00:20.250 --> 01:00:22.100
  • But because he intervened and
  • 01:00:22.100 --> 01:00:23.230
  • changed my heart, I give him all
  • 01:00:23.230 --> 01:00:25.210
  • glory and honor.
  • 01:00:25.210 --> 01:00:26.170
  • - Jose Hernandez: God has
  • 01:00:26.170 --> 01:00:29.130
  • several times though he doesn't
  • 01:00:29.130 --> 01:00:30.050
  • need to, reinforced through
  • 01:00:30.050 --> 01:00:33.030
  • action what he has given me in
  • 01:00:33.030 --> 01:00:34.160
  • his Word.
  • 01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:36.220
  • And so my security no longer is
  • 01:00:36.220 --> 01:00:39.160
  • on things, on finances, on
  • 01:00:39.220 --> 01:00:42.220
  • people, but in him.
  • 01:00:42.220 --> 01:00:45.110
  • - David Zamora: I still, to
  • 01:00:45.110 --> 01:00:46.280
  • this day, ask the question,
  • 01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.110
  • "Why me, Lord?"
  • 01:00:49.110 --> 01:00:50.260
  • And you know, the Lord--I just
  • 01:00:50.260 --> 01:00:53.030
  • hear the Lord say, "Why not?
  • 01:00:53.030 --> 01:00:55.060
  • [music]
  • 01:01:39.210 --> 01:01:42.210
  • Yeah,
  • 01:01:42.210 --> 01:01:44.120
  • I ain't a gangster rapper
  • 01:01:44.120 --> 01:01:45.190
  • but I got a gangster pass.
  • 01:01:45.190 --> 01:01:47.050
  • Never quick to spit,
  • 01:01:47.050 --> 01:01:48.070
  • I'll put the set on blast.
  • 01:01:48.070 --> 01:01:49.200
  • Now, you know what time it
  • 01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:50.260
  • is when you had
  • 01:01:50.260 --> 01:01:51.290
  • to grow up fast.
  • 01:01:51.290 --> 01:01:52.180
  • No time for innocence
  • 01:01:52.180 --> 01:01:53.170
  • when you're being
  • 01:01:53.170 --> 01:01:54.110
  • stripped of it.
  • 01:01:54.110 --> 01:01:55.080
  • Blood tricklin' from my nose
  • 01:01:55.080 --> 01:01:56.290
  • when the fist and the bottom
  • 01:01:56.290 --> 01:01:58.090
  • of a Chuck say,
  • 01:01:58.090 --> 01:01:59.140
  • "Homey, now you win."
  • 01:01:59.140 --> 01:02:00.200
  • Who would have guessed it.
  • 01:02:00.200 --> 01:02:01.290
  • The price of acceptance is
  • 01:02:01.290 --> 01:02:03.080
  • vicious brutal violence
  • 01:02:03.080 --> 01:02:04.150
  • and pain in my abdomen.
  • 01:02:04.150 --> 01:02:06.050
  • Respect is consequential
  • 01:02:06.050 --> 01:02:07.060
  • if I fight to maintain it.
  • 01:02:07.060 --> 01:02:08.160
  • If fear isn't in the eyes
  • 01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:09.280
  • then you ain't never gained
  • 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.020
  • it, I feel a stainless,
  • 01:02:11.020 --> 01:02:12.190
  • like the steel
  • 01:02:12.190 --> 01:02:13.130
  • that I'm packing.
  • 01:02:13.130 --> 01:02:14.050
  • Fear me when
  • 01:02:14.050 --> 01:02:14.240
  • I cruise the streets
  • 01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:15.160
  • looking for some action.
  • 01:02:15.160 --> 01:02:16.210
  • Homey in the back and he's
  • 01:02:16.210 --> 01:02:17.290
  • itching for the crackin'
  • 01:02:17.290 --> 01:02:19.100
  • Acting like I'm down means
  • 01:02:19.100 --> 01:02:20.200
  • survival of the fittest.
  • 01:02:20.200 --> 01:02:21.270
  • One way to be down is
  • 01:02:21.270 --> 01:02:23.050
  • becoming a villain.
  • 01:02:23.050 --> 01:02:24.120
  • You ain't really down if
  • 01:02:24.120 --> 01:02:25.230
  • you don't go along with it.
  • 01:02:25.230 --> 01:02:27.170
  • Doing what is needed.
  • 01:02:27.170 --> 01:02:28.150
  • Owing no man.
  • 01:02:28.150 --> 01:02:29.250
  • Watch each other's back,
  • 01:02:29.250 --> 01:02:30.290
  • never backin' out the plan.
  • 01:02:30.290 --> 01:02:32.140
  • Being down is living,
  • 01:02:32.140 --> 01:02:33.250
  • yet this life is death.
  • 01:02:33.250 --> 01:02:35.030
  • I'm down for a reason,
  • 01:02:35.030 --> 01:02:36.070
  • that ends in no regrets.
  • 01:02:36.070 --> 01:02:37.180
  • Doing what is needed.
  • 01:02:37.180 --> 01:02:39.000
  • Owing no man.
  • 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:40.120
  • Watch each other's back,
  • 01:02:40.120 --> 01:02:41.200
  • never backin' out the plan.
  • 01:02:41.200 --> 01:02:43.050
  • Being down is living,
  • 01:02:43.050 --> 01:02:44.250
  • yet this life is death.
  • 01:02:44.250 --> 01:02:45.270
  • I'm down for a reason,
  • 01:02:45.270 --> 01:02:47.020
  • that ends in no regrets.
  • 01:02:47.020 --> 01:02:49.040
  • Twitching arms because
  • 01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:50.050
  • of twitchin' whispers.
  • 01:02:50.050 --> 01:02:51.190
  • The twitching words sing
  • 01:02:51.190 --> 01:02:52.180
  • in my mental life
  • 01:02:52.180 --> 01:02:53.210
  • a cigarette burn,
  • 01:02:53.210 --> 01:02:54.210
  • ashed out.
  • 01:02:54.210 --> 01:02:55.150
  • But we dash out
  • 01:02:55.150 --> 01:02:56.130
  • from the bad couch.
  • 01:02:56.130 --> 01:02:57.120
  • Never afraid
  • 01:02:57.120 --> 01:02:58.100
  • to let the blast out.
  • 01:02:58.100 --> 01:02:59.250
  • Like blast off, porta too
  • 01:02:59.250 --> 01:03:01.090
  • like homie prove me,
  • 01:03:01.090 --> 01:03:02.240
  • I'm sure your heart
  • 01:03:02.240 --> 01:03:03.150
  • Isn't bulletproof?
  • 01:03:03.150 --> 01:03:04.260
  • Sweat trickle, never.
  • 01:03:04.260 --> 01:03:05.240
  • Look into my eyes,
  • 01:03:05.240 --> 01:03:06.270
  • tell me what you see.
  • 01:03:06.270 --> 01:03:08.070
  • A disturbed biggie
  • 01:03:08.070 --> 01:03:09.090
  • roaming these streets.
  • 01:03:09.090 --> 01:03:10.130
  • Hard as ever can be.
  • 01:03:10.130 --> 01:03:11.150
  • - Jose Hernandez: So
  • 01:03:14.110 --> 01:03:15.000
  • "The Neighborhood."
  • 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:16.220
  • What people don't talk about
  • 01:03:16.220 --> 01:03:18.090
  • is that last little part,
  • 01:03:18.090 --> 01:03:20.010
  • our side of the story.
  • 01:03:20.140 --> 01:03:23.140
  • Some of the things that haven't
  • 01:03:23.140 --> 01:03:24.160
  • been said, you know, and part of
  • 01:03:25.070 --> 01:03:28.070
  • doing this project, is that
  • 01:03:28.070 --> 01:03:30.080
  • there was something that caused
  • 01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:32.000
  • us whether it was fear or
  • 01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.220
  • whether it was hate, all these
  • 01:03:34.220 --> 01:03:37.160
  • different things, insecurities,
  • 01:03:37.160 --> 01:03:38.230
  • that lunged us into the chaos
  • 01:03:38.260 --> 01:03:41.260
  • that we live.
  • 01:03:41.260 --> 01:03:43.110
  • It wasn't about how hard we were
  • 01:03:43.110 --> 01:03:44.110
  • or how, you know, bad we were or
  • 01:03:44.110 --> 01:03:47.010
  • all these different things.
  • 01:03:47.010 --> 01:03:48.120
  • It has nothing to do with
  • 01:03:48.120 --> 01:03:50.080
  • glorifying the life that we led.
  • 01:03:50.080 --> 01:03:52.070
  • It was all to do with how God,
  • 01:03:52.070 --> 01:03:54.160
  • through and despite all the
  • 01:03:54.160 --> 01:03:56.270
  • things that we did and went
  • 01:03:56.270 --> 01:03:58.000
  • through, still got us out.
  • 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.000
  • And so, for me, I can only think
  • 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:02.120
  • of one thing and that was the
  • 01:04:02.120 --> 01:04:04.050
  • insecurity in my life.
  • 01:04:04.050 --> 01:04:07.020
  • And I look back to when I was
  • 01:04:07.020 --> 01:04:09.190
  • about 13 years old, my
  • 01:04:09.190 --> 01:04:11.000
  • 3-year-old sister, Alejandra,
  • 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.100
  • she got shot.
  • 01:04:13.100 --> 01:04:16.050
  • She was bleeding out, she's
  • 01:04:16.050 --> 01:04:18.140
  • dying.
  • 01:04:18.140 --> 01:04:19.130
  • I pick her up.
  • 01:04:19.130 --> 01:04:21.030
  • My mom and I jump in a car.
  • 01:04:21.030 --> 01:04:23.050
  • We rush her from 108th and
  • 01:04:23.050 --> 01:04:24.020
  • Central to Compton and 120
  • 01:04:24.020 --> 01:04:26.200
  • to Martin Luther King.
  • 01:04:26.200 --> 01:04:29.050
  • And we basically are drenched in
  • 01:04:29.050 --> 01:04:31.020
  • blood and my sister is dying.
  • 01:04:31.020 --> 01:04:33.240
  • And we spent most of the day,
  • 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.000
  • just hoping and praying that
  • 01:04:38.010 --> 01:04:41.010
  • they would put her back
  • 01:04:44.190 --> 01:04:45.110
  • together.
  • 01:04:45.110 --> 01:04:46.150
  • And I remember, as we had to
  • 01:04:46.250 --> 01:04:49.250
  • go back home because my older
  • 01:04:49.250 --> 01:04:52.010
  • brother was the one who
  • 01:04:52.010 --> 01:04:52.290
  • actually shot her.
  • 01:04:52.290 --> 01:04:54.130
  • they were trying to figure out
  • 01:04:57.030 --> 01:04:58.000
  • what's going on.
  • 01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:59.070
  • They're trying to get all the
  • 01:04:59.070 --> 01:04:59.280
  • details.
  • 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.170
  • And so once we were okay to go
  • 01:05:01.170 --> 01:05:03.160
  • back home and I remember that my
  • 01:05:03.160 --> 01:05:04.280
  • mom was wearing a jean skirt and
  • 01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:07.250
  • it was--I mean, jeans are blue
  • 01:05:07.270 --> 01:05:10.270
  • but hers were--or her skirt was
  • 01:05:10.270 --> 01:05:12.200
  • completely red, bathed in my
  • 01:05:12.200 --> 01:05:14.260
  • sister's blood.
  • 01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:16.220
  • And so we're home, trying to
  • 01:05:16.220 --> 01:05:19.180
  • sort this whole thing out.
  • 01:05:19.180 --> 01:05:21.170
  • And here, the person that you
  • 01:05:21.170 --> 01:05:23.190
  • look to, security, the person
  • 01:05:23.190 --> 01:05:25.110
  • that you're looking for comfort,
  • 01:05:25.110 --> 01:05:27.140
  • the person that you want to make
  • 01:05:27.180 --> 01:05:30.180
  • all these things okay--I see my
  • 01:05:31.200 --> 01:05:34.200
  • father in almost, like, in slow
  • 01:05:34.200 --> 01:05:37.130
  • motion, just drive by.
  • 01:05:37.130 --> 01:05:40.040
  • And there was, like, probably
  • 01:05:40.040 --> 01:05:41.260
  • like, about 10, 15 police cars
  • 01:05:41.260 --> 01:05:43.050
  • outside of our house.
  • 01:05:43.050 --> 01:05:45.040
  • But he was wanted on all these
  • 01:05:45.040 --> 01:05:47.200
  • different things and so he just
  • 01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:49.070
  • went right by the house.
  • 01:05:49.070 --> 01:05:51.170
  • And that just--I can imagine how
  • 01:05:51.170 --> 01:05:53.080
  • for a 13-year-old kid, I mean,
  • 01:05:53.110 --> 01:05:56.110
  • where's your father?
  • 01:05:56.110 --> 01:05:58.240
  • And then to think that that's
  • 01:05:58.240 --> 01:06:00.130
  • my idea of who God is.
  • 01:06:02.260 --> 01:06:05.260
  • But you see, when I came to know
  • 01:06:05.260 --> 01:06:08.000
  • Jesus Christ as my Lord and
  • 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:09.210
  • Savior, that whole thing
  • 01:06:09.210 --> 01:06:11.130
  • changed.
  • 01:06:11.130 --> 01:06:12.280
  • And no longer do I have to be
  • 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.170
  • afraid that there is no security
  • 01:06:14.170 --> 01:06:16.130
  • in a person or in a bank account
  • 01:06:16.130 --> 01:06:18.290
  • or in a job but that my security
  • 01:06:18.290 --> 01:06:21.040
  • now lies in Christ.
  • 01:06:21.040 --> 01:06:24.030
  • And so I'm able to now live
  • 01:06:25.240 --> 01:06:28.240
  • without those worries, without
  • 01:06:28.240 --> 01:06:30.220
  • those fears, because I know that
  • 01:06:31.180 --> 01:06:34.180
  • this person who I thought was
  • 01:06:34.180 --> 01:06:37.060
  • the one who needed to do those
  • 01:06:37.060 --> 01:06:39.020
  • things for me, was not my
  • 01:06:39.020 --> 01:06:41.290
  • physical father here on earth.
  • 01:06:41.290 --> 01:06:44.140
  • But now it's my heavenly Father
  • 01:06:44.140 --> 01:06:46.190
  • in heaven.
  • 01:06:46.190 --> 01:06:48.110
  • - Matt: Beautiful.
  • 01:06:48.110 --> 01:06:50.240
  • - David Trujillo: You know,
  • 01:06:57.040 --> 01:06:58.050
  • for me, it was anger.
  • 01:06:58.050 --> 01:07:00.120
  • At a very young age,
  • 01:07:00.120 --> 01:07:01.270
  • I was molested.
  • 01:07:01.270 --> 01:07:04.160
  • When I told my dad, my dad
  • 01:07:04.160 --> 01:07:06.070
  • didn't believe me, which led
  • 01:07:06.070 --> 01:07:07.050
  • Being in the gangs, I
  • 01:07:09.200 --> 01:07:11.040
  • experienced a lot of pain, a lot
  • 01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:13.150
  • of things that allowed me to get
  • 01:07:13.150 --> 01:07:14.280
  • to a place of just wanna hurt
  • 01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.110
  • people.
  • 01:07:16.110 --> 01:07:17.160
  • For instance, my mom being raped
  • 01:07:17.160 --> 01:07:19.060
  • when I was young; seeing friends
  • 01:07:19.200 --> 01:07:22.200
  • die left and right, that were
  • 01:07:22.200 --> 01:07:24.000
  • really close to me; you know,
  • 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:25.210
  • all that stuff.
  • 01:07:25.210 --> 01:07:27.190
  • You know, trying to live that
  • 01:07:27.190 --> 01:07:29.110
  • gang life, going back and
  • 01:07:29.110 --> 01:07:30.110
  • getting revenge.
  • 01:07:30.110 --> 01:07:31.240
  • Well, as I grew up, a lot of
  • 01:07:31.240 --> 01:07:33.170
  • those things were still in my
  • 01:07:33.170 --> 01:07:35.040
  • heart.
  • 01:07:35.040 --> 01:07:35.260
  • I never dealt with them.
  • 01:07:35.260 --> 01:07:37.030
  • So when I became a Christian,
  • 01:07:37.030 --> 01:07:38.090
  • you would think that everything
  • 01:07:38.090 --> 01:07:39.060
  • was gonna go away.
  • 01:07:39.060 --> 01:07:40.120
  • But little did I realize it
  • 01:07:40.120 --> 01:07:41.190
  • doesn't go away.
  • 01:07:41.190 --> 01:07:42.170
  • You've gotta let it go.
  • 01:07:42.170 --> 01:07:43.240
  • And the way you do that is by
  • 01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:44.220
  • simply trusting in the Lord and
  • 01:07:44.220 --> 01:07:46.000
  • believing his Word.
  • 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:47.010
  • And as you trust in his Word and
  • 01:07:47.010 --> 01:07:48.190
  • you obey his Word, God begins to
  • 01:07:48.190 --> 01:07:50.200
  • cleanse you from the inside out.
  • 01:07:50.200 --> 01:07:52.010
  • But before that cleansing took
  • 01:07:52.010 --> 01:07:53.290
  • place--before that
  • 01:07:53.290 --> 01:07:54.250
  • transformation occurred, my
  • 01:07:54.250 --> 01:07:56.080
  • family were victims to my anger.
  • 01:07:56.080 --> 01:07:58.270
  • You know, from--I mean, this--
  • 01:07:58.270 --> 01:08:01.220
  • my anger just went crazy.
  • 01:08:01.220 --> 01:08:03.190
  • I couldn't control it, you know.
  • 01:08:03.190 --> 01:08:04.260
  • I almost killed my dad with a
  • 01:08:04.260 --> 01:08:05.260
  • two-barrel shotgun.
  • 01:08:05.260 --> 01:08:07.140
  • I tried to kill my wife, my
  • 01:08:07.140 --> 01:08:09.020
  • girlfriend back then a couple of
  • 01:08:09.020 --> 01:08:10.200
  • times.
  • 01:08:10.200 --> 01:08:11.240
  • And it was just out of control.
  • 01:08:11.240 --> 01:08:13.150
  • And again, it wasn't until
  • 01:08:13.150 --> 01:08:15.230
  • Jesus Christ and, actually this
  • 01:08:15.230 --> 01:08:17.030
  • happened maybe a few years ago,
  • 01:08:17.030 --> 01:08:18.170
  • where God finally delivered me
  • 01:08:18.170 --> 01:08:20.020
  • from anger.
  • 01:08:20.020 --> 01:08:20.290
  • So if you're listening, listen.
  • 01:08:20.290 --> 01:08:22.030
  • I want you to understand that
  • 01:08:22.030 --> 01:08:23.120
  • God is your hope.
  • 01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:24.190
  • The Bible tells us that he will
  • 01:08:24.190 --> 01:08:26.040
  • give us his Spirit.
  • 01:08:26.040 --> 01:08:27.140
  • That means God will come and
  • 01:08:27.140 --> 01:08:29.270
  • live in you.
  • 01:08:29.270 --> 01:08:31.090
  • And he will begin the
  • 01:08:31.090 --> 01:08:32.000
  • transformation.
  • 01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:32.220
  • Now, the conversion will be
  • 01:08:32.220 --> 01:08:33.210
  • instant but the transformation's
  • 01:08:33.210 --> 01:08:36.130
  • gonna take a lifetime.
  • 01:08:36.130 --> 01:08:37.270
  • But you will--he will change
  • 01:08:37.270 --> 01:08:39.150
  • you.
  • 01:08:39.150 --> 01:08:40.060
  • He'll take that heart of stone,
  • 01:08:40.060 --> 01:08:42.090
  • give you a heart of flesh.
  • 01:08:42.090 --> 01:08:43.200
  • You'll be able to forgive.
  • 01:08:43.200 --> 01:08:44.120
  • You'll be able to love.
  • 01:08:44.120 --> 01:08:45.250
  • And most importantly, man,
  • 01:08:45.250 --> 01:08:47.110
  • you're gonna be able to live
  • 01:08:47.110 --> 01:08:48.200
  • in the freedom that comes
  • 01:08:48.200 --> 01:08:49.180
  • in Christ.
  • 01:08:49.180 --> 01:08:50.280
  • So our encouragement to you guys
  • 01:08:50.280 --> 01:08:52.170
  • is, listen, if you're struggling
  • 01:08:52.220 --> 01:08:55.220
  • with anger or drugs or anything
  • 01:08:55.220 --> 01:08:56.160
  • like that, it's called sin.
  • 01:08:56.160 --> 01:08:58.140
  • Guess what?
  • 01:08:58.140 --> 01:08:59.200
  • God has given us his Spirit to
  • 01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:01.020
  • deliver you from it and also
  • 01:09:01.020 --> 01:09:03.020
  • to--so that you can live a life
  • 01:09:03.020 --> 01:09:04.100
  • experiencing true joy.
  • 01:09:04.100 --> 01:09:06.160
  • You hear me?
  • 01:09:06.160 --> 01:09:07.240
  • True joy and true peace.
  • 01:09:07.240 --> 01:09:09.060
  • That only comes through our Lord
  • 01:09:09.060 --> 01:09:10.040
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 01:09:10.040 --> 01:09:11.060
  • - Matt: Beautiful.
  • 01:09:15.160 --> 01:09:18.160
  • - Tommy: You know, there's a
  • 01:09:18.160 --> 01:09:19.260
  • "Now to him who is able to do
  • 01:09:22.010 --> 01:09:23.200
  • exceedingly and above all that
  • 01:09:23.200 --> 01:09:25.140
  • we can ask or think."
  • 01:09:25.140 --> 01:09:26.220
  • And there was a time in my life
  • 01:09:26.220 --> 01:09:29.160
  • would amount to anything, become
  • 01:09:31.270 --> 01:09:34.070
  • anything, be a father, be a
  • 01:09:34.070 --> 01:09:36.220
  • husband, be a good son, be even
  • 01:09:36.220 --> 01:09:38.190
  • a good friend.
  • 01:09:38.190 --> 01:09:40.160
  • None of that.
  • 01:09:40.160 --> 01:09:41.230
  • It wasn't until that day that I
  • 01:09:41.230 --> 01:09:44.110
  • heard the message of the gospel
  • 01:09:44.110 --> 01:09:46.160
  • of Jesus Christ and it was on
  • 01:09:46.160 --> 01:09:48.290
  • that day in June 11 when God
  • 01:09:48.290 --> 01:09:50.150
  • captured my heart.
  • 01:09:50.150 --> 01:09:51.230
  • And now, today, I get to be a
  • 01:09:51.230 --> 01:09:54.210
  • good husband.
  • 01:09:54.210 --> 01:09:56.240
  • I get to be a father to three
  • 01:09:56.240 --> 01:09:58.240
  • beautiful children.
  • 01:09:58.240 --> 01:10:00.220
  • And I wanna tell you, you may be
  • 01:10:00.220 --> 01:10:02.260
  • watching this right now and you
  • 01:10:02.260 --> 01:10:04.050
  • might be thinking yourself,
  • 01:10:04.050 --> 01:10:05.150
  • "There's no hope for me.
  • 01:10:05.150 --> 01:10:07.220
  • Maybe God loves them more
  • 01:10:07.220 --> 01:10:09.180
  • than me."
  • 01:10:09.180 --> 01:10:10.140
  • Or maybe, maybe, you might even
  • 01:10:10.140 --> 01:10:12.080
  • be thinking, "God isn't even
  • 01:10:12.080 --> 01:10:13.080
  • real."
  • 01:10:13.080 --> 01:10:14.010
  • But I wanna tell you that God is
  • 01:10:14.010 --> 01:10:15.000
  • real.
  • 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:16.030
  • And you're watching this and
  • 01:10:16.030 --> 01:10:16.290
  • it's for a reason.
  • 01:10:16.290 --> 01:10:19.290
  • Because God is calling you.
  • 01:10:19.290 --> 01:10:21.180
  • God, he's got your name on his
  • 01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:23.130
  • heart.
  • 01:10:23.130 --> 01:10:24.060
  • When he died on the cross, you
  • 01:10:24.060 --> 01:10:25.040
  • were on his mind.
  • 01:10:25.040 --> 01:10:27.010
  • And I want you to understand
  • 01:10:27.010 --> 01:10:28.060
  • that the love of God wants to
  • 01:10:28.060 --> 01:10:29.150
  • reach down and he wants to
  • 01:10:29.150 --> 01:10:32.060
  • capture your life, like he's
  • 01:10:32.060 --> 01:10:33.040
  • captured ours.
  • 01:10:33.040 --> 01:10:34.220
  • He is a good God.
  • 01:10:34.220 --> 01:10:36.140
  • He's a good, good Father.
  • 01:10:36.140 --> 01:10:37.190
  • And he loves you.
  • 01:10:37.190 --> 01:10:38.180
  • - Matt: Beautiful, beautiful.
  • 01:10:42.020 --> 01:10:45.020
  • - David Zamora: So as you're
  • 01:10:49.150 --> 01:10:50.170
  • watching this film, as you
  • 01:10:50.170 --> 01:10:52.010
  • watched it, as you've sat, as
  • 01:10:52.010 --> 01:10:53.240
  • it's ministered to you, as it's
  • 01:10:53.240 --> 01:10:55.240
  • probably revealed some things
  • 01:10:55.240 --> 01:10:57.050
  • about yourself and maybe has
  • 01:10:57.050 --> 01:10:59.000
  • brought up things, one thing
  • 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:00.270
  • that we realized in this film
  • 01:11:00.270 --> 01:11:02.170
  • hear in the stories of each of
  • 01:11:04.210 --> 01:11:05.220
  • the brothers here that have
  • 01:11:05.220 --> 01:11:06.240
  • spoken, that there was periods
  • 01:11:06.240 --> 01:11:08.260
  • of our life where we lived
  • 01:11:08.260 --> 01:11:10.070
  • that there was no hope.
  • 01:11:10.070 --> 01:11:12.160
  • I was literally told that
  • 01:11:12.160 --> 01:11:13.240
  • there's no hope for me,
  • 01:11:13.240 --> 01:11:15.090
  • that I'm a lost cause.
  • 01:11:15.090 --> 01:11:16.270
  • I remember being in a court room
  • 01:11:16.270 --> 01:11:18.070
  • and a judge, looking at my mom,
  • 01:11:18.070 --> 01:11:20.080
  • and saying that "you made a
  • 01:11:20.080 --> 01:11:21.120
  • mistake having this kid, he's
  • 01:11:21.120 --> 01:11:22.210
  • a career criminal and he'll
  • 01:11:22.210 --> 01:11:24.060
  • never amount to anything.
  • 01:11:24.060 --> 01:11:25.250
  • And the next time he's in my
  • 01:11:25.250 --> 01:11:26.270
  • court room, I have no problem
  • 01:11:26.270 --> 01:11:28.050
  • giving him a life sentence."
  • 01:11:28.050 --> 01:11:30.080
  • And I remember that day, I was
  • 01:11:30.080 --> 01:11:31.120
  • really upset because I saw my
  • 01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:33.250
  • mom crying.
  • 01:11:33.250 --> 01:11:35.210
  • They were taking me.
  • 01:11:35.210 --> 01:11:37.120
  • Years later, she told me that
  • 01:11:37.120 --> 01:11:38.290
  • she walked out of that court
  • 01:11:38.290 --> 01:11:40.200
  • room, her heart was so broken
  • 01:11:40.200 --> 01:11:41.230
  • because here I am, I was a young
  • 01:11:41.230 --> 01:11:43.030
  • man, I was an adult, but I'm the
  • 01:11:43.030 --> 01:11:45.120
  • youngest of her three sons and
  • 01:11:45.120 --> 01:11:48.010
  • she said that the first thought
  • 01:11:48.010 --> 01:11:50.080
  • that came to my mind is they're
  • 01:11:50.080 --> 01:11:51.120
  • taking my baby away from me.
  • 01:11:51.120 --> 01:11:53.210
  • And you know, I didn't realize
  • 01:11:53.210 --> 01:11:54.240
  • how much that impacted her but,
  • 01:11:54.240 --> 01:11:57.110
  • as I begin to look back and
  • 01:11:57.110 --> 01:11:58.280
  • reflect on my life, I realize
  • 01:11:58.280 --> 01:12:01.040
  • that I made a mess of all
  • 01:12:01.040 --> 01:12:02.010
  • the relationships, of even
  • 01:12:02.010 --> 01:12:03.230
  • the relationship with my mom.
  • 01:12:03.230 --> 01:12:05.070
  • And I'm the product of a praying
  • 01:12:05.070 --> 01:12:06.230
  • mother.
  • 01:12:06.230 --> 01:12:07.290
  • And so, as you're watching this
  • 01:12:07.290 --> 01:12:10.030
  • film, as you're thinking, I want
  • 01:12:10.030 --> 01:12:12.100
  • you to know one thing: there is
  • 01:12:12.100 --> 01:12:13.180
  • hope.
  • 01:12:13.180 --> 01:12:14.210
  • In Ephesians chapter 2, verse
  • 01:12:14.210 --> 01:12:16.080
  • 12, the Bible says that "we're
  • 01:12:16.080 --> 01:12:18.090
  • a people who had no hope."
  • 01:12:18.090 --> 01:12:19.220
  • There's no hope.
  • 01:12:19.220 --> 01:12:20.190
  • The world has nothing to offer
  • 01:12:20.190 --> 01:12:21.140
  • us.
  • 01:12:21.140 --> 01:12:22.170
  • And we consume our lives with
  • 01:12:22.170 --> 01:12:24.060
  • all kinds of things that lead us
  • 01:12:24.060 --> 01:12:25.200
  • to nowhere.
  • 01:12:25.200 --> 01:12:26.120
  • But then Peter speaks to the
  • 01:12:26.120 --> 01:12:28.060
  • church and he says in his
  • 01:12:28.060 --> 01:12:30.060
  • letter, he says, "We have a
  • 01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:31.120
  • living hope and that hope is
  • 01:12:31.180 --> 01:12:34.180
  • found in Christ Jesus."
  • 01:12:34.180 --> 01:12:36.110
  • I like this quote that
  • 01:12:36.110 --> 01:12:37.270
  • ministered to me years ago and
  • 01:12:37.270 --> 01:12:39.120
  • it really is reminiscent of a
  • 01:12:39.120 --> 01:12:40.230
  • lot of our stories.
  • 01:12:40.230 --> 01:12:42.090
  • And it's a quote by Corrie Ten
  • 01:12:42.090 --> 01:12:44.050
  • Boom that says, "There's no pit
  • 01:12:44.050 --> 01:12:45.130
  • too deep that the love of God
  • 01:12:45.130 --> 01:12:47.100
  • cannot reach in and save still."
  • 01:12:47.100 --> 01:12:49.240
  • You're not too far gone.
  • 01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:52.090
  • You don't have to be in gangs.
  • 01:12:52.090 --> 01:12:54.050
  • You don't have to be in drugs.
  • 01:12:54.050 --> 01:12:55.250
  • But you can be lost.
  • 01:12:55.250 --> 01:12:57.210
  • We're all lost.
  • 01:12:57.210 --> 01:12:59.020
  • And God doesn't look at, "Well,
  • 01:12:59.020 --> 01:13:00.100
  • this one was worse than this
  • 01:13:00.100 --> 01:13:01.120
  • one."
  • 01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:02.140
  • God sent his Son so that you can
  • 01:13:02.140 --> 01:13:04.020
  • be delivered.
  • 01:13:04.020 --> 01:13:05.120
  • So that you can be set free.
  • 01:13:05.120 --> 01:13:06.190
  • It's a work that he set out to
  • 01:13:06.190 --> 01:13:08.170
  • do first.
  • 01:13:08.170 --> 01:13:11.000
  • There's really nothing you have
  • 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:11.270
  • to do but say, "Lord, here I
  • 01:13:11.270 --> 01:13:12.270
  • am."
  • 01:13:12.270 --> 01:13:13.230
  • And I'll tell you, the Lord
  • 01:13:13.230 --> 01:13:15.060
  • reached down in that dark place
  • 01:13:15.060 --> 01:13:16.060
  • and took me just the way I was,
  • 01:13:16.060 --> 01:13:18.080
  • when everyone else said and even
  • 01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:20.000
  • said to my mom, "This kid is
  • 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.080
  • a lost cause."
  • 01:13:21.080 --> 01:13:22.080
  • The Lord said, "I can use him."
  • 01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:23.200
  • 1 Corinthians clearly teaches us
  • 01:13:23.200 --> 01:13:26.040
  • in chapter 1, verse 27, that
  • 01:13:26.040 --> 01:13:28.140
  • "God takes the foolish things
  • 01:13:28.140 --> 01:13:29.260
  • of the world."
  • 01:13:29.260 --> 01:13:31.130
  • Let me tell you, I was a fool in
  • 01:13:31.130 --> 01:13:32.200
  • the world.
  • 01:13:32.200 --> 01:13:33.270
  • But I'm still a fool for
  • 01:13:33.270 --> 01:13:35.110
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 01:13:35.110 --> 01:13:36.140
  • And so I wanna tell you today
  • 01:13:36.140 --> 01:13:38.180
  • that Jesus can change you.
  • 01:13:38.180 --> 01:13:41.110
  • That Jesus can transform you.
  • 01:13:41.110 --> 01:13:43.030
  • And that Jesus can remove all
  • 01:13:43.030 --> 01:13:45.110
  • the hurt, all the pain.
  • 01:13:45.110 --> 01:13:47.170
  • And so you're probably thinking,
  • 01:13:47.170 --> 01:13:49.100
  • "Is he talking to me?"
  • 01:13:49.100 --> 01:13:51.190
  • The Holy Spirit is, without
  • 01:13:51.190 --> 01:13:52.290
  • a doubt, talking to you.
  • 01:13:52.290 --> 01:13:54.110
  • What you're feeling right now,
  • 01:13:54.110 --> 01:13:55.220
  • let me introduce you to
  • 01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:56.280
  • the Holy Spirit.
  • 01:13:56.280 --> 01:13:57.270
  • he's knocking on your heart.
  • 01:13:57.270 --> 01:13:59.190
  • And you wanna know what?
  • 01:13:59.190 --> 01:14:01.030
  • All you have to do is say, "Lord
  • 01:14:01.030 --> 01:14:02.210
  • Jesus, come into my life."
  • 01:14:02.210 --> 01:14:04.210
  • You see, God took
  • 01:14:04.210 --> 01:14:05.230
  • the first step.
  • 01:14:05.230 --> 01:14:06.240
  • That's what John 3:16
  • 01:14:06.240 --> 01:14:07.180
  • is all about.
  • 01:14:07.180 --> 01:14:08.280
  • And so if you're saying,
  • 01:14:08.280 --> 01:14:10.140
  • "Yes, I want that.
  • 01:14:10.140 --> 01:14:11.290
  • I want this new life.
  • 01:14:11.290 --> 01:14:12.190
  • I want hope.
  • 01:14:12.190 --> 01:14:13.190
  • I want hope."
  • 01:14:13.190 --> 01:14:15.000
  • Don't try to figure it out.
  • 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:15.280
  • Let the Lord take care of that.
  • 01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:17.170
  • But just say, "Yes," to Jesus.
  • 01:14:17.170 --> 01:14:19.000
  • And if that's you tonight and
  • 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:20.280
  • you're looking at the screen and
  • 01:14:20.280 --> 01:14:22.040
  • I'm looking right at you and
  • 01:14:22.040 --> 01:14:23.080
  • that's you I'm talking to, say,
  • 01:14:23.080 --> 01:14:25.170
  • "Yes," to Jesus.
  • 01:14:25.170 --> 01:14:26.240
  • Just say this simple prayer.
  • 01:14:26.240 --> 01:14:28.040
  • Just repeat it after me.
  • 01:14:28.040 --> 01:14:29.140
  • Say, "Lord Jesus,
  • 01:14:29.140 --> 01:14:30.160
  • come into my life.
  • 01:14:30.220 --> 01:14:33.220
  • I know that apart from you I can
  • 01:14:33.220 --> 01:14:36.090
  • do nothing.
  • 01:14:36.090 --> 01:14:38.110
  • I believe you died on the cross
  • 01:14:38.110 --> 01:14:41.000
  • for my sins and, on the third
  • 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.260
  • day, you were raised from the
  • 01:14:42.260 --> 01:14:44.200
  • dead.
  • 01:14:44.200 --> 01:14:45.290
  • Lord, I ask for a work of the
  • 01:14:45.290 --> 01:14:48.180
  • Holy Spirit in my life.
  • 01:14:48.210 --> 01:14:51.210
  • Fill me, consume me, and from
  • 01:14:51.290 --> 01:14:54.290
  • this day forward, I will
  • 01:14:54.290 --> 01:14:56.100
  • live for you.
  • 01:14:56.100 --> 01:14:58.130
  • In Jesus' name I pray, amen."
  • 01:14:58.170 --> 01:15:01.190
  • If you prayed that prayer,
  • 01:15:03.130 --> 01:15:06.130
  • welcome to the family of God.
  • 01:15:06.130 --> 01:15:08.220
  • There's a number on the screen.
  • 01:15:08.220 --> 01:15:09.230
  • You call that number and you let
  • 01:15:09.230 --> 01:15:11.260
  • someone know that you've
  • 01:15:11.260 --> 01:15:13.000
  • accepted Jesus.
  • 01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.070
  • There's information they'll give
  • 01:15:15.070 --> 01:15:16.000
  • you.
  • 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:16.240
  • They'll even send you a Bible.
  • 01:15:16.240 --> 01:15:18.040
  • And I'll tell you what.
  • 01:15:18.040 --> 01:15:19.180
  • You start reading the Gospel of
  • 01:15:19.180 --> 01:15:20.120
  • John and see what Jesus will do
  • 01:15:20.120 --> 01:15:21.210
  • in that.
  • 01:15:21.210 --> 01:15:22.260
  • God bless you.
  • 01:15:22.260 --> 01:15:23.170
  • - Matt: C'mon.
  • 01:15:23.170 --> 01:15:24.210
  • Beautiful.
  • 01:15:24.210 --> 01:15:25.260
  • Wow.
  • 01:15:27.050 --> 01:15:30.050
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:15:31.050 --> 01:15:34.050
  • You know, first of all,
  • 01:15:34.050 --> 01:15:36.220
  • I just wanna say, "Thank you"
  • 01:15:36.220 --> 01:15:37.260
  • to, you know, the entire
  • 01:15:37.260 --> 01:15:39.100
  • Calvary Chapel world.
  • 01:15:39.100 --> 01:15:42.000
  • Calvary Chapel is in the house,
  • 01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:43.200
  • right here.
  • 01:15:43.200 --> 01:15:44.220
  • C'mon, now.
  • 01:15:47.190 --> 01:15:50.190
  • [audience applauding]
  • 01:15:50.190 --> 01:15:52.030
  • And I was talking to
  • 01:15:52.030 --> 01:15:52.270
  • the audience a little bit and I
  • 01:15:52.270 --> 01:15:54.270
  • asked how many remember way back
  • 01:15:54.270 --> 01:15:57.210
  • to the Jesus Movement in
  • 01:15:57.210 --> 01:16:00.080
  • Southern California.
  • 01:16:00.080 --> 01:16:01.220
  • If you're bold enough to wave
  • 01:16:01.220 --> 01:16:03.100
  • your hand and you're old enough
  • 01:16:03.100 --> 01:16:04.190
  • to know about the Jesus
  • 01:16:04.190 --> 01:16:06.170
  • Movement, kind of wave your hand
  • 01:16:06.170 --> 01:16:08.100
  • and smile and--okay, there's a
  • 01:16:08.100 --> 01:16:10.070
  • few white-haired and gray-haired
  • 01:16:10.070 --> 01:16:12.000
  • and no hair.
  • 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.130
  • You know, there's a few of you
  • 01:16:14.130 --> 01:16:15.040
  • out there.
  • 01:16:15.040 --> 01:16:15.220
  • But the Calvary Chapel world
  • 01:16:15.220 --> 01:16:17.270
  • started, you know, just kind of
  • 01:16:17.270 --> 01:16:20.240
  • back at the very beginning of
  • 01:16:20.240 --> 01:16:22.020
  • TBN.
  • 01:16:22.020 --> 01:16:24.280
  • And all of the music, you know,
  • 01:16:24.280 --> 01:16:27.050
  • but Pastor Chuck Smith was an
  • 01:16:27.050 --> 01:16:28.170
  • institution here in this area,
  • 01:16:28.170 --> 01:16:30.180
  • Southern California, and he was
  • 01:16:30.180 --> 01:16:32.230
  • a big part of this.
  • 01:16:32.230 --> 01:16:33.250
  • And I--it makes me think and
  • 01:16:33.250 --> 01:16:35.220
  • reminisce that, you know, what
  • 01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:37.140
  • my father, Paul Crouch, and what
  • 01:16:37.140 --> 01:16:39.170
  • Pastor Chuck Smith were doing
  • 01:16:39.170 --> 01:16:41.080
  • way back in the, you know,
  • 01:16:41.080 --> 01:16:42.290
  • mid-70s is still happening
  • 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.000
  • tonight.
  • 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:47.090
  • You know, we have a little bit
  • 01:16:47.090 --> 01:16:49.090
  • different looking set.
  • 01:16:49.290 --> 01:16:52.290
  • We have--we were talking a
  • 01:16:52.290 --> 01:16:54.260
  • little bit before we started
  • 01:16:54.260 --> 01:16:56.230
  • that the lighting that we have
  • 01:16:56.230 --> 01:16:59.150
  • in this studio doesn't put off
  • 01:16:59.150 --> 01:17:00.240
  • any heat, you know, and we used
  • 01:17:00.240 --> 01:17:02.210
  • to sit here and sweat, you know,
  • 01:17:02.210 --> 01:17:04.020
  • and you know, there's just tons
  • 01:17:04.020 --> 01:17:06.030
  • of air conditioning.
  • 01:17:06.030 --> 01:17:07.200
  • And now, you know, a lot of
  • 01:17:07.200 --> 01:17:09.160
  • things have changed but one
  • 01:17:09.160 --> 01:17:10.220
  • thing hasn't.
  • 01:17:10.220 --> 01:17:12.110
  • And that's the fact that these
  • 01:17:12.110 --> 01:17:13.190
  • ministers came and Pastor Brian
  • 01:17:13.190 --> 01:17:15.250
  • got this film put together and
  • 01:17:15.250 --> 01:17:17.100
  • Riley Taylor produced it and,
  • 01:17:17.100 --> 01:17:19.220
  • you know what?
  • 01:17:19.220 --> 01:17:21.190
  • There's a phone number available
  • 01:17:21.190 --> 01:17:22.230
  • and someone wants to pray with
  • 01:17:22.230 --> 01:17:24.220
  • you.
  • 01:17:24.220 --> 01:17:25.160
  • Somebody wants to help you.
  • 01:17:25.160 --> 01:17:27.030
  • So as much as things kind of
  • 01:17:27.030 --> 01:17:29.060
  • change visually, the point of
  • 01:17:29.060 --> 01:17:31.190
  • the Trinity Broadcasting Network
  • 01:17:31.190 --> 01:17:34.070
  • and having pastors up on a set
  • 01:17:34.070 --> 01:17:35.210
  • so that you can know Jesus is
  • 01:17:35.210 --> 01:17:38.100
  • the same.
  • 01:17:38.100 --> 01:17:39.020
  • After 43 years, we're doing
  • 01:17:39.020 --> 01:17:41.080
  • the same thing and we're doing
  • 01:17:41.080 --> 01:17:43.120
  • it tonight.
  • 01:17:43.120 --> 01:17:43.290
  • So tonight is perfect.
  • 01:17:43.290 --> 01:17:45.250
  • So you know what?
  • 01:17:45.250 --> 01:17:47.240
  • Let me do one thing.
  • 01:17:47.240 --> 01:17:48.290
  • You know, the idea that, you
  • 01:17:48.290 --> 01:17:50.230
  • know, pastors, all of you have
  • 01:17:50.230 --> 01:17:52.010
  • an amazing story.
  • 01:17:52.010 --> 01:17:53.250
  • But Pastor David Zamora, you
  • 01:17:53.250 --> 01:17:55.280
  • were telling me backstage a
  • 01:17:55.280 --> 01:17:58.230
  • little bit about your church,
  • 01:17:58.230 --> 01:18:01.140
  • California are you in?
  • 01:18:03.210 --> 01:18:04.250
  • - David Zamora: We're in the
  • 01:18:04.250 --> 01:18:05.160
  • city of Fontana.
  • 01:18:05.160 --> 01:18:06.030
  • - Matt: Okay, so Fontana.
  • 01:18:06.030 --> 01:18:07.100
  • And you used to be a bad guy.
  • 01:18:07.100 --> 01:18:10.040
  • I mean, you pointed that out,
  • 01:18:10.040 --> 01:18:11.080
  • right?
  • 01:18:11.080 --> 01:18:12.000
  • You've been locked up, right?
  • 01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:13.210
  • - David Zamora: Yes.
  • 01:18:13.210 --> 01:18:14.080
  • - Matt: Okay, so that's
  • 01:18:14.080 --> 01:18:14.280
  • - David Zamora: There you go,
  • 01:18:17.020 --> 01:18:17.240
  • okay.
  • 01:18:17.240 --> 01:18:18.160
  • - Matt: And by the way, how
  • 01:18:18.160 --> 01:18:20.090
  • many in the audience have been
  • 01:18:20.090 --> 01:18:21.140
  • locked up?
  • 01:18:21.140 --> 01:18:22.090
  • C'mon, now, just wave your hand.
  • 01:18:22.090 --> 01:18:23.180
  • Wave your hand.
  • 01:18:23.180 --> 01:18:24.240
  • Oh, wait, a lot more on this
  • 01:18:24.240 --> 01:18:26.130
  • side.
  • 01:18:26.130 --> 01:18:27.120
  • Look at that.
  • 01:18:27.120 --> 01:18:28.170
  • Wow.
  • 01:18:28.170 --> 01:18:30.030
  • You must have all come together
  • 01:18:30.030 --> 01:18:31.030
  • in a, you know--okay, so tell me
  • 01:18:31.270 --> 01:18:34.270
  • about your church.
  • 01:18:34.270 --> 01:18:35.230
  • Its great story of how, you
  • 01:18:35.230 --> 01:18:37.090
  • redemption with you.
  • 01:18:39.220 --> 01:18:41.050
  • Tell me about your church.
  • 01:18:41.050 --> 01:18:42.050
  • - David Zamora: Yeah.
  • 01:18:42.050 --> 01:18:43.020
  • One of the things that I was
  • 01:18:43.020 --> 01:18:43.250
  • sharing with you was that I
  • 01:18:43.250 --> 01:18:45.070
  • would go and report to the
  • 01:18:45.070 --> 01:18:47.250
  • parole office there in the city
  • 01:18:47.250 --> 01:18:49.290
  • of Fontana, that's where I
  • 01:18:49.290 --> 01:18:51.020
  • paroled to, and when I would go
  • 01:18:51.020 --> 01:18:53.080
  • to the parole office, there was
  • 01:18:53.080 --> 01:18:54.130
  • a building across the street
  • 01:18:54.130 --> 01:18:55.230
  • right on the corner.
  • 01:18:55.230 --> 01:18:56.200
  • And that building I always
  • 01:18:56.220 --> 01:18:59.220
  • something like that, you know, I
  • 01:19:02.080 --> 01:19:03.100
  • just didn't picture it as a
  • 01:19:03.100 --> 01:19:04.240
  • Christian church, so to speak.
  • 01:19:04.240 --> 01:19:06.170
  • But anyways, I would go and test
  • 01:19:06.170 --> 01:19:08.130
  • with my parole officer and I had
  • 01:19:08.130 --> 01:19:10.060
  • a buddy that lived next door in
  • 01:19:10.060 --> 01:19:11.220
  • some little apartments and he
  • 01:19:11.220 --> 01:19:12.290
  • sold drugs and I'd go drink
  • 01:19:12.290 --> 01:19:13.270
  • water so I can go and test.
  • 01:19:13.270 --> 01:19:15.150
  • And so, anyways, here's what's
  • 01:19:15.150 --> 01:19:17.040
  • interesting.
  • 01:19:17.040 --> 01:19:18.170
  • Years later, as the Lord got me
  • 01:19:18.170 --> 01:19:20.110
  • to get out there and get a Bible
  • 01:19:20.110 --> 01:19:22.020
  • study group going, he brought us
  • 01:19:22.020 --> 01:19:23.230
  • back to Fontana.
  • 01:19:23.230 --> 01:19:25.190
  • And I ended up in that building,
  • 01:19:25.190 --> 01:19:27.220
  • that church building, that I
  • 01:19:27.220 --> 01:19:30.020
  • would look at when I was on
  • 01:19:30.020 --> 01:19:31.230
  • parole.
  • 01:19:31.230 --> 01:19:32.220
  • And so as we're there, we're
  • 01:19:32.220 --> 01:19:34.160
  • ministering, you know.
  • 01:19:34.160 --> 01:19:35.180
  • My pastor came one time, we were
  • 01:19:35.180 --> 01:19:37.190
  • doing some type of event, Pastor
  • 01:19:37.190 --> 01:19:38.220
  • Brian Brodersen.
  • 01:19:38.220 --> 01:19:39.170
  • And we were there talking and I
  • 01:19:39.170 --> 01:19:41.010
  • was telling him, "Yeah, that's
  • 01:19:41.010 --> 01:19:42.210
  • where the parole office right
  • 01:19:42.210 --> 01:19:43.130
  • there across the street.
  • 01:19:43.130 --> 01:19:44.120
  • And my buddy used to, you know,
  • 01:19:44.120 --> 01:19:45.060
  • sell drugs over here and I used
  • 01:19:45.060 --> 01:19:46.130
  • to go drink water."
  • 01:19:46.130 --> 01:19:47.100
  • And I was giving him the whole
  • 01:19:47.100 --> 01:19:48.050
  • rundown and he says, "So is it
  • 01:19:48.050 --> 01:19:50.040
  • still the parole office?"
  • 01:19:50.040 --> 01:19:51.090
  • I said, "No, they just moved
  • 01:19:51.090 --> 01:19:52.020
  • out."
  • 01:19:52.020 --> 01:19:52.200
  • I says, "You know, I'd really
  • 01:19:52.200 --> 01:19:53.210
  • like to use that building for
  • 01:19:53.210 --> 01:19:54.240
  • something."
  • 01:19:54.240 --> 01:19:55.220
  • And so he says, "Let's pray
  • 01:19:55.220 --> 01:19:56.150
  • right now."
  • 01:19:56.150 --> 01:19:57.030
  • So we just prayed, just a simple
  • 01:19:57.030 --> 01:19:58.040
  • prayer and then a couple of
  • 01:19:58.040 --> 01:19:59.280
  • years later, he came out.
  • 01:19:59.280 --> 01:20:01.100
  • I believe his wife was speaking
  • 01:20:01.100 --> 01:20:02.090
  • at our women's conference and I
  • 01:20:02.090 --> 01:20:03.230
  • says, "Hey, I got the keys to
  • 01:20:03.230 --> 01:20:04.250
  • that place.
  • 01:20:04.250 --> 01:20:05.250
  • Do you wanna go check it out?"
  • 01:20:05.250 --> 01:20:06.200
  • So we're sitting in there and
  • 01:20:06.200 --> 01:20:07.210
  • the next thing you know, he's
  • 01:20:07.210 --> 01:20:09.000
  • like, "We prayed for this."
  • 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:10.090
  • And yes, we did and so we moved
  • 01:20:10.090 --> 01:20:11.140
  • our church offices across the
  • 01:20:11.140 --> 01:20:13.120
  • street.
  • 01:20:13.120 --> 01:20:14.190
  • We started a Bible college and
  • 01:20:14.190 --> 01:20:17.060
  • a accredited general ed
  • 01:20:17.130 --> 01:20:20.130
  • college all taught from a
  • 01:20:20.130 --> 01:20:21.100
  • biblical world view.
  • 01:20:21.100 --> 01:20:22.150
  • And so we acquired the building.
  • 01:20:22.150 --> 01:20:25.120
  • Here's the funny thing.
  • 01:20:25.120 --> 01:20:26.190
  • My office was where me and my
  • 01:20:26.190 --> 01:20:28.250
  • parole officer used to meet.
  • 01:20:28.250 --> 01:20:30.140
  • - Matt: C'mon.
  • 01:20:30.140 --> 01:20:31.100
  • Ha, ha, ha, ha.
  • 01:20:31.250 --> 01:20:34.250
  • I love it.
  • 01:20:34.250 --> 01:20:36.030
  • I love it.
  • 01:20:36.030 --> 01:20:38.040
  • I love it.
  • 01:20:38.040 --> 01:20:38.290
  • Okay, guys.
  • 01:20:38.290 --> 01:20:39.200
  • We've just got a couple of
  • 01:20:39.200 --> 01:20:41.020
  • minutes.
  • 01:20:41.020 --> 01:20:41.180
  • I wanna get a final thought from
  • 01:20:41.180 --> 01:20:42.100
  • everyone.
  • 01:20:42.100 --> 01:20:43.040
  • But I wanna just break in real
  • 01:20:43.040 --> 01:20:44.130
  • quick and just say there's
  • 01:20:44.130 --> 01:20:45.060
  • information on the screen,
  • 01:20:45.060 --> 01:20:47.110
  • I believe,
  • 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:50.280
  • if I can read it correctly.
  • 01:20:50.280 --> 01:20:52.090
  • It'll be on the screen.
  • 01:20:52.090 --> 01:20:53.100
  • But theneighborhoodfilm.com,
  • 01:20:53.250 --> 01:20:56.250
  • go there.
  • 01:20:56.250 --> 01:20:58.020
  • You know someone that needs
  • 01:20:58.020 --> 01:21:00.080
  • this movie in their life.
  • 01:21:00.080 --> 01:21:02.160
  • Maybe they weren't watching
  • 01:21:02.160 --> 01:21:03.060
  • tonight.
  • 01:21:03.060 --> 01:21:04.100
  • This film will certainly be
  • 01:21:04.100 --> 01:21:06.070
  • available online on itbn.org,
  • 01:21:06.110 --> 01:21:09.110
  • but I want you to know
  • 01:21:09.110 --> 01:21:10.260
  • that you know someone.
  • 01:21:10.260 --> 01:21:12.290
  • Maybe somebody that's
  • 01:21:12.290 --> 01:21:13.190
  • locked up that needs
  • 01:21:13.190 --> 01:21:14.180
  • to see this production.
  • 01:21:14.180 --> 01:21:16.140
  • And it's available by going to
  • 01:21:16.140 --> 01:21:18.200
  • that website that's on the
  • 01:21:18.200 --> 01:21:20.270
  • screen and I encourage you to do
  • 01:21:20.270 --> 01:21:22.200
  • that.
  • 01:21:22.200 --> 01:21:23.140
  • And what an amazing gift for you
  • 01:21:23.140 --> 01:21:26.140
  • to give to someone, to get it,
  • 01:21:26.140 --> 01:21:28.040
  • acquire it, get it to someone.
  • 01:21:28.040 --> 01:21:30.030
  • Go to that website,
  • 01:21:30.030 --> 01:21:31.240
  • check it out.
  • 01:21:31.240 --> 01:21:32.190
  • - Laurie: Well, you know, we've
  • 01:21:32.190 --> 01:21:33.120
  • all been locked up in one way or
  • 01:21:33.120 --> 01:21:35.210
  • the other, right?
  • 01:21:35.210 --> 01:21:36.180
  • - Matt: Yeah.
  • 01:21:36.180 --> 01:21:37.180
  • - Laurie: [laughing]
  • 01:21:37.180 --> 01:21:38.250
  • But isn't that amazing, no
  • 01:21:38.250 --> 01:21:39.200
  • matter where you find yourself
  • 01:21:39.200 --> 01:21:40.240
  • tonight, God always finds each
  • 01:21:40.240 --> 01:21:42.240
  • what we've done in our life.
  • 01:21:45.100 --> 01:21:46.060
  • We're all at ground zero
  • 01:21:46.060 --> 01:21:48.270
  • because of sin.
  • 01:21:48.270 --> 01:21:50.140
  • And that's where Jesus comes in.
  • 01:21:50.140 --> 01:21:52.200
  • You're not good enough for God's
  • 01:21:52.200 --> 01:21:54.020
  • grace and you're not bad enough
  • 01:21:54.020 --> 01:21:55.100
  • to receive God's grace.
  • 01:21:55.150 --> 01:21:58.150
  • He has freely given it to us and
  • 01:21:58.150 --> 01:22:01.040
  • he loves you, no matter where
  • 01:22:01.040 --> 01:22:02.230
  • you are tonight.
  • 01:22:02.230 --> 01:22:04.020
  • These guys can totally testify,
  • 01:22:04.020 --> 01:22:06.250
  • "I am a living picture of
  • 01:22:06.250 --> 01:22:09.020
  • redemption in my life."
  • 01:22:09.020 --> 01:22:11.140
  • And I just thank you for sharing
  • 01:22:11.140 --> 01:22:14.000
  • your stories tonight.
  • 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.040
  • - Matt: And Pastor Jose and the
  • 01:22:15.040 --> 01:22:16.200
  • guys, we've got about 4 minutes
  • 01:22:16.200 --> 01:22:18.050
  • left, so about a minute.
  • 01:22:18.050 --> 01:22:19.160
  • Just, kind of, your final
  • 01:22:19.160 --> 01:22:20.130
  • thoughts on what someone
  • 01:22:20.130 --> 01:22:22.110
  • Maybe somebody prayed that
  • 01:22:24.170 --> 01:22:25.060
  • prayer.
  • 01:22:25.060 --> 01:22:25.260
  • What's going on in your heart
  • 01:22:25.260 --> 01:22:26.290
  • to--final thoughts for
  • 01:22:26.290 --> 01:22:28.030
  • the audience that's
  • 01:22:28.030 --> 01:22:29.100
  • watching tonight.
  • 01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:30.020
  • - Jose Hernandez: I think that
  • 01:22:30.020 --> 01:22:30.240
  • the most important thing is that
  • 01:22:30.240 --> 01:22:31.240
  • they get connected.
  • 01:22:31.240 --> 01:22:33.030
  • That they get connected to
  • 01:22:33.030 --> 01:22:34.080
  • a Bible-teaching church.
  • 01:22:34.080 --> 01:22:36.250
  • Accountability is so crucial,
  • 01:22:36.250 --> 01:22:38.210
  • you know, because you made that
  • 01:22:38.210 --> 01:22:40.000
  • decision.
  • 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:40.290
  • Now you have to act on it.
  • 01:22:40.290 --> 01:22:42.240
  • Get plugged in, get accountable
  • 01:22:42.240 --> 01:22:44.140
  • with someone.
  • 01:22:44.140 --> 01:22:45.130
  • Start reading your Bible.
  • 01:22:45.130 --> 01:22:46.190
  • Start praying.
  • 01:22:46.190 --> 01:22:47.220
  • But be accountable to someone.
  • 01:22:47.220 --> 01:22:49.080
  • - Matt: And Pastor David,
  • 01:22:49.080 --> 01:22:50.010
  • your final thoughts, just--
  • 01:22:50.010 --> 01:22:51.130
  • - David Trujillo: My final
  • 01:22:51.130 --> 01:22:52.030
  • thought is do everything that
  • 01:22:52.030 --> 01:22:53.230
  • you can to fall in love with
  • 01:22:53.230 --> 01:22:55.030
  • Jesus Christ.
  • 01:22:55.030 --> 01:22:56.050
  • If you do that, everything will
  • 01:22:56.050 --> 01:22:57.100
  • be all right.
  • 01:22:57.100 --> 01:22:58.120
  • - Matt: How do you do that?
  • 01:22:58.120 --> 01:22:59.040
  • - David Trujillo: Just like he
  • 01:22:59.040 --> 01:23:00.100
  • says.
  • 01:23:00.100 --> 01:23:00.270
  • Reading your Word, getting to
  • 01:23:00.270 --> 01:23:01.180
  • know him.
  • 01:23:01.180 --> 01:23:02.050
  • And not only that, living out
  • 01:23:02.050 --> 01:23:03.040
  • his faithfulness in your life.
  • 01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:05.030
  • And stepping out in faith,
  • 01:23:05.030 --> 01:23:06.270
  • walking in faith, and opening
  • 01:23:06.270 --> 01:23:08.290
  • your--you're opening your eyes
  • 01:23:08.290 --> 01:23:09.290
  • to the fact that God is working
  • 01:23:09.290 --> 01:23:11.110
  • and, when he's working, you
  • 01:23:11.110 --> 01:23:12.260
  • know, and as you witness it,
  • 01:23:12.260 --> 01:23:14.060
  • man, your faith is gonna
  • 01:23:14.060 --> 01:23:15.050
  • increase.
  • 01:23:15.050 --> 01:23:15.260
  • You're gonna realize he's good,
  • 01:23:15.260 --> 01:23:16.200
  • and you're gonna want more of
  • 01:23:16.200 --> 01:23:17.180
  • him.
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  • - Matt: A pastor friend of mine
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  • said one time, "Understanding
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  • and loving God and loving Jesus
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  • the best is just understanding
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  • how much he loves you."
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  • And that's--you find that out in
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  • the Bible.
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  • Final thoughts, Pastor?
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  • - Tommy: You know, Matt, I
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  • would say this.
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  • I actually wanna say a word too
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  • to the person who may have seen
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  • this film and was wishing that
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  • their son, their daughter, their
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  • husband, their nephew, their
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  • niece, their friend, was
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  • actually there watching it with
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  • them.
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  • Because I know that there was
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  • family members of mine that kind
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  • of just gave up hope and said,
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  • "You know what?
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  • He's never gonna change."
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  • don't get tired of praying.
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  • Just keep on pressing in and
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  • believe that God will do
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  • a miracle for the person
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  • that you love.
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  • That's something that I would
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  • encourage the person who's--who
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  • may be watching this.
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  • - Matt: Pastor Zamora, your
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  • final thoughts?
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  • - David Zamora: Yeah, I would
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  • just, kind of, like to, yeah,
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  • just piggyback off of what
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  • Pastor Tommy Cota said and that
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  • is, you know, if you're a
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  • parent, if you're a grandparent,
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  • if you're a son, a daughter, a
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  • brother, a sister, don't stop
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  • praying.
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  • There's hope.
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  • And for those that responded to
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  • the message, get plugged in.
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  • Get plugged in and stay
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  • connected.
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  • - Matt: Beautiful.
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  • I wanna say this.
  • 01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.000
  • "The Neighborhood" film
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  • was freely given
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  • to Trinity Broadcasting.
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  • It was freely given to you.
  • 01:24:37.010 --> 01:24:38.080
  • So I wanna thank everyone that
  • 01:24:38.080 --> 01:24:39.180
  • was a part of getting this made.
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  • You know, Pastor
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  • Brian Brodersen,
  • 01:24:42.170 --> 01:24:43.090
  • the Senior Pastor at--
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  • - Brian: Calvary Chapel!
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  • - Matt: Yeah, okay.
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  • [audience applauding]
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  • And Riley Taylor.
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  • You know, look, it's hard to get
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  • these films done.
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  • And you guys know what it's like
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  • now.
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  • You've been through the process
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  • and I just want you to know that
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  • it was freely given to Trinity.
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  • We've freely given it to you.
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  • So on behalf of those that
  • 01:25:08.240 --> 01:25:10.260
  • financed this film, thank you.
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  • Those that have given to
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  • Trinity Broadcasting over
  • 01:25:15.020 --> 01:25:16.040
  • all these years, thank you.
  • 01:25:16.040 --> 01:25:18.180
  • This film went out around
  • 01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:20.190
  • the world to those that needed
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  • to hear it.
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  • And I know it's touched
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  • somebody's life.
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  • Continue to call the number
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  • that's on the screen.
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  • And somebody's there, even after
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  • this program goes off the air.
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  • Call us, let us know and, by
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  • the way, thank you Pastor Brian,
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  • Riley, and all the guys up here.
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  • We'll see you next time.
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  • Bye, bye.
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